The Chaotic Past of Back To The Future

[@paulothx138]

Eric Stoltz looks like a teen from the 90's stuck in a 80's sci-fi movie.

[@crankfastle8138]

He dressed like every emo goth kid I hung out with in highschool. Yup, in the 90s. He looks like he went to the future to listen to nirvana and get sad.

[@ДенисВоронцов-п6ш]

👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😅😂​@@crankfastle8138

[@sridrawings4510]

more like early 2000's

[@li0nhart4477]

One of the best movies ever, I never get bored of watching this. I couldn't imagine it being any different.

[@natashakay6555]

Back to the future is my favorite movie too. Love learning about behind the scenes trivia about the movie

[@Nickelbippy]

One of the eternal classics I was privileged to see in the theater, along with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Alien.

[@ceticobr]

We're you aware then of the magnitude of those movies? Did you realize how important they would turn out to be?

[@Nickelbippy]

@@ceticobr no I didn't because before then you didn't have a tradition of sequels, and never more than one sequel. Plus merchandising was not the enormous thing that it is today.

[@rodsimpson518]

Michael J. Fox was great in Back to the future but Eric Stoltz was amazing as Rocky Dennis in Mask which I consider one of the best movies of the 80's. I used to watch both of those movies over and over again as a kid.

[@ScottyDunn]

Definitely. Stoltz is a good actor. Both are great movies. I love the 80's!

[@Theduckwebcomics]

Personally I preferred Cher's arse in Mask. That's the best part of the film. 😁 When you see that bum outlined with the road dust on her black leather skirt near the start of the movie you fall in love.

[@fadetoblond]

I only really liked that movie more because of Cher and Sam Elliott. The only reason Eric was such a good fit, was because he didn't have to use much of any facial expressions, but to me, his voice still sounded as monotone as it does in every other movie he's been in. His version of "the fly" was a little better but....not too much.

[@joshthemediocre7824]

I've never once seen someone dressed up as Rocky Dennis for Halloween...

[@hectorlopez1069]

Stoltz was also amazing in the wild life.

[@basicdose.9872]

I saw , Back to the Future , in 1985 in theatre located in Queens New York. Audience was deeply immersed in the movie. Every shot with Michael J Fox in it enthralled the audience.

[@ScottyDunn]

So cool you got to be there. What an experience.

[@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830]

It wasn’t every scene with Mikey, it was literally every scene…completely captivated.

[@mercurry718]

Where in Queens?

[@thelostmediapodcast]

It’s amazing how much footage/ screenshots you were able to track down with Eric stoltz playing Marty. I realise there’s now lots of little clips online but you found so many other still images I hadn’t seen before from other scenes. It seriously changed the past! Great video.

[@ScottyDunn]

Thanks so much Sam! It was fascinating finding these stills and videos. It would be crazy to see a rough cut of his footage assembled for our viewing pleasure.

[@type1d760]

​@@ScottyDunn it's on KZbin now.

[@crankfastle8138]

They filmed with him for 6 weeks according to Tom Wilson. And it was miserable. They should have most of the movie filmed with him.

[@queenbee2371]

Definitely only one person who could play Marty! We love you Michael xx

[@jasonmatney8025]

Absolutely 💯 Right, I Agree Michael J. Fox Is The One & Only Marty McFly I'm Glad They Let Eric Stoltz Go He Just Wasn't Right For The Part

[@hectorlopez1069]

​@@jasonmatney8025 absolutely, I love Michael J. Fox.

[@hectorlopez1069]

It wouldn't be a masterpiece, if Eric Stolz was Marty Mcfly.

[@jasonmatney8025]

@@hectorlopez1069 Me Too, Michael J. Fox Is An Awesome Actor I Loved Him As Alex P. Keaton On Family Ties.

[@jasonmatney8025]

@@hectorlopez1069 I Agree 💯 With You, it wouldn't be a masterpiece if it was Eric stoltz as Marty McFly, Michael J. Fox absolutely the better choice to portray him

[@internationalsolartech]

I remember walking out of the theatre not realizing until outside i knew more than half the people in the theatre... We all were blown away as if we just were on a 2 hour fabulous roller coaster ride... We all knew we just saw a classic...No one else could've played Marty... Thank you Michael J Fox...!

[@joekelley5121]

If you look at Eric's and Michael's performances side-by-side, you can see the difference in the chemistry of the other actors with Michael. You can see it in their expressions.

[@ebonypegasus9864]

I couldn't imagine these films with out Michael J Fox. He literally carried the whole film. Even that little trip scene... adds the sense of bewilderment Marty felt when looking around at what should have been familiar surroundings, and finding them all changed! Strutting across the street all confident just didn't work for the scene. Even the clothing choices... having Marty in a bright puffer jacket vs a black leather jacket. The jokes about the puffer jacket might have been added in later? and helped tie it in to the futuristic jacket that Marty gets later on, and even the ridiculous clothes he starts out with in the old west. It helped tie the three time zones together. It's amazing how something so subtle can change an entire mood of a scene... makes you have huge respect for the directors, costume department and their vision for the movies. We often forget about those behind the scenes who add so much to a movie.

[@martymartinez737]

Michael J. Fox is Marty McFly! My name is Marty, and all my life growing up people use to yell at me, "Hey McFly!" 😆

[@APBCTechnique]

Funny 😄

[@RetroNeedy]

My favorite movie too! No matter how many times I watch the movies or behind the scenes stuff about it, I never get tired of it! I hope they will release more Stoltz footage, I am curious as to what more of it looked like. But yes I hope they never remake this gem! It's perfect as it is!

[@ScottyDunn]

I love it! Honestly, it would be great to have a room full of BTTF memorabilia and the movies would be playing on a loop. Whenever you feel down, you just go to that room and soak up the BTTF goodness. I think in the future, the Stoltz footage will be released. Very curious as to how it turned out.

[@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830]

I’ve heard the Stoltz footage is lost to time, like the Legend masters.

[@Simon_SM]

Honestly, the movie with him would be kinda good too, but in a different way The movie with him would have a darker and more serious theme But Michael J Fox did it amazingly and I love that he played Marty

[@BookshelfQBattler]

At the end of the day, movies are a business. I assume if the Stoltz based movie was able to turn a profit, even if it became a forgettable flash in the pan, they would have just approved the Stoltz version for release. So I assume it stunk enough that Zemeckis went to his bosses and was like...See? I tried to tell you to get MJF. I just can't see studio heads approving to essentially pay everyone, the cast, the crew to shoot a movie for a second time with a new lead unless the version was that bad. That being said, the movie is so popular, if they put the Stoltz cut together and throw it on Netflix I bet people would be interested given the fandom.

[@DavidBDunnMD]

Such a cool perspective, Zemeckis going "back in time" to change the future of his film. It fits like a glove! Thanks for a great review of one particular aspect of arguably the best time travel movie ever filmed! I loved your thoughts, gleamed over a period of decades, from the "wow! factor" as a little kid to the view of an experienced actor and director in your own right. Thanks for the memories, and don't forget to “Be excellent to each other.”

[@ScottyDunn]

I have you to thank for introducing me to this movie, dad. Thank you! I treasure the memories!

[@FootkerSnooball]

Even though Michael J Fox was still having a good career, the decision to rehire gave MJF such a legacy that I'm sure is helping him through his Parkinson's problems which he was destined to get whatever happened in his career.

[@hi2hai]

Thank you for this! I knew of the change and that Stoltz wasn't a good fit, but never knew why. You clips and examples shed a lot of light. Bravo!

[@ScottyDunn]

My pleasure! Thank you for watching 😎

[@joekelley5121]

When 2015 came around, and they released the Back to the Future DVD set, of course I had to buy it! It still feels al little surreal that 2015 has come and gone. In '85, it was exciting to think about whether 2015 was going to be like it was in BTTF II. It was close enough!

[@ScottyDunn]

I know. I also remember wondering if 2015 would match up at all to the one in BTTF II. It came pretty close in many ways.

[@joekelley5121]

@@ScottyDunn it sure did. I'm kind of glad we don't have flying cars though. People have a hard enough driving safely on the ground!

[@kevboard]

me and my brother even did the thing... we watched the second movie, timed perfectly that the scene where they arrive in 2015 syncs up perfectly with the real world. it was like 3am in germany I think lol, but we hit it near perfectly

[@AceEbb77]

I met Eric at a concert in Vancouver in the late 90s. He was very friendly and approachable, but when I joked around with him in a manner that involved quoting one of his lines from Pulp Fiction, he actually seemed confused by it. My takeaway from the experience is that he was a nice guy, but he didn't seem to have much of a sense humor. It didn't help that I ended the conversation telling him it was always a pleasure talking with him. He looked at me like, "Do I know this weird Canadian guy?".

[@ScottyDunn]

Oh man that sounds a bit awkward. Not on your part, just the reaction you got. Thanks for sharing.

[@crankfastle8138]

I had the pleasure of working in a place in Los Angeles where a lot of famous people would shop. It's interesting to see how some of them have a bit of a disconnect at times.

[@robmoore1341]

Eric played it like it was overwhelming and that the time travel experience was bringing him down

[@ScottyDunn]

Yeah. Needed more fun put into it.

[@lilane259]

The first two BTTFs mean so much to me that I have made them my birthday present to myself every few years. I make a weekend of it when I can, and watch the whole trilogy, inevitably, even though I am not so hot for III. I owe MJF my childhood

[@ScottyDunn]

I hear you. Such an amazing series that only gets better with time.

[@Tornado1994]

@@ScottyDunn I first watched BTTF on Video in June of 1988 in Novato,CA. My Stepdad rented it for me while Mom rented "Secret of My Success" and he rented "Lethal Weapon". I was drawn into Back To the Future as a 5 year old. And Christopher Lloyd had truly stood out to me. I've got the 2002 DVD Trilogy and brought it BRAND NEW in November '02 when I brought my very first DVD/VCR Combo Player. I Missed Part 2. Don't even remember when it came out, I didn't see it until it aired on The Movie Channel in February of 1995. I saw Part 3 in Theaters, Memorial Day 1990 with my Chum at an AMC 14 in Portsmouth, VA. I'll never forget the Audience reactions.

[@ScottyDunn]

@@Tornado1994 Nice! I have the 2002 DVD Trilogy as well.

[@diddsdaddiddsdad6865]

I don’t care how many reruns come on the tv,you just have to watch them. One of my all time greats

[@ScottyDunn]

Definitely. I’m the same way, if it’s on a screen somewhere, I’m watching it.

[@danield-ze3kg]

Beautifull documentary!! Well made!

[@ScottyDunn]

I appreciate you. Thanks!

[@JHorton]

I think this might be your best video so far. Edits are great. VO works. Good subject matter. Keep at it.

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you for letting me know it's working. I'm prepping a bunch of these "Special Features" videos about different nostalgic movies.

[@BlogoFanger]

Absolute classic. Red Dawn stays my fav but that doesnt take away the value of this masterpiece. You just taught me something I HAD NO IDEA about. Very well put together video. Glad I found you. Keep up the good work!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you so much! I appreciate you.

[@SuperToughnut]

Michael J Fox brings charisma and magic to everything he is in. A phenomenal energy. I imagine he is a muse for everyone else on the set or anywhere he is.

[@ScottyDunn]

Yeah I really think his good energy lifted everyone’s spirits on set

[@LiquidAudio]

Great vid, you included some really interesting details here. I love BTTF and Zemekis but man I was pissed when they cut Crispin Glover out of the sequels!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you! I would’ve loved to see the sequels with more of Crispin in it.

[@75aces97]

Now that I think of it, what could have been a mind bender is a BTF film where Michael J Fox as Marty goes back in time, inadvertently jeopardizes his own existence via chance encounter with Lorraine. Then, knowing the danger, he gets his parents back together, but the new present day 1985 changes. Marty wakes up to find that now he’s alive, but in the corpus of Eric Stolz.

[@debbieannsmith8962]

Corpus....?

[@thoughtfuldevil6069]

​@@debbieannsmith8962 Body. Marty wakes up in Eric Stoltz's body.

[@PetProjects2011]

9:55 I think what Eric is doing is, as Marty, scanning his young father from top to bottom, processing that this is his teenaged father. This shot in particular I felt demonstrates why Eric wasn't right for the part. Michael J. Fox does this moment more in complete shock, with his eyes dead set in one direction (his father's face) in total disbelief. Eric though has more of a "Hm. So this is my father as a teen. Interesting..."

[@ScottyDunn]

Yeah I think that's true in terms of what Eric was trying to convey. Definitely works better with the eye line that Fox was doing. Here it telegraphs like Eric's looking at the ceiling.

[@missmelissa1204]

I could only maybe see Matthew Broderick. but no one else but Fox is perfection

[@skorpyo331]

I too was not happy about universal orlando taking out that ride. 1st time experiencing that ride in the 90s along w the sounds leading up to the ride is some thing that I will never forget.

[@lizzkaayako2270]

I hope the Stoltz cut is eventually released -- even in its unfinished form.

[@enoyna1001]

Who from the official crew with access to the footage would make the effort to cut and edit said footage and who would pay them for that?

[@lovelydiva06]

I don’t think he filmed much for a full version of his version to be released

[@Tornado1994]

@@lovelydiva06 He didn't. Only Shot 5 weeks(45 minute) worth of Material. Eric didn't even shoot any of the Skateboarding Scenes with Tom Wilson and Biff's Gang. He was fired After New Years 1985. The Last Day of Filming for involved him shoving and punching Biff. This was Around December 20,1984.

[@raltor20]

@@Tornado1994 Eric likely filmed everything except the Enchantment Under the Sea Dance and the opening 1985 day scenes. You can see parts where they left footage of Eric and his stunt double during the skateboard chase, easily spotted by the white shirt they wore under their jackets where MJF wore a red overshirt. There is also a photo of Eric shooting this scene. Tom Wilson himself said Eric did the majority of the film and that before Eric’s firing the cast were already asking each other what jobs they had lined up after filming.

[@Tornado1994]

@@raltor20 He was fired before they shot any footage of Enchantment Under The Sea. Which makes sense as Stoltz had no Guitar playing skills and MJF actually Hired a Personal Instructor and the "George VS Biff" story arc had to be rewritten twice.(One Draft had George shove Biff out the way during the dance, the other had Marty dress up as a Spaceman to scare Biff) Which wasn't shot until Early February 1985. Stoltz only shot about 40 minutes in the can and was last seen filming the Cafe Lou's and Chase seen. He was LONG gone from the project by the time Enchantment Under The Sea came around.

[@SeanMcBride1234]

Fantastic editing man, really good stuff! I forgot they shot a large percent of the film with Eric Stoltz!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thanks Sean! It’s crazy to think about. It’s a little like how Schlep was basically re-shot… no such luck replacing my character though 😝

[@mh22xv]

Great vid. Well put together. Thank you. BTTF was one of those movies that defined my childhood.

[@Falconer22]

Eric Stoltz was a wonderful dramatic actor. And, so very handsome.

[@thenarrator1984]

He just didn't fit what Zemeckis wanted

[@JonHop1]

Needing to Method Act a character like Marty McFly is truly hilarious and absurd 🤣

[@darrenforseille641]

My favorite movie growing up. Saw it 7 times in the movie theater and Its movies like this in your past that create the best lifelong memories, I wont ever forget it.

[@stopwhatyouredoing6032]

I was 15 when it came out and the whole concept was such a breath of fresh air from the same old stuff. Nice vid, lots of stuff I've not seen before

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you! Yeah, it’s one of those movies I never get tired of.

[@jj-if6it]

They definitely need a Back to the Future ride back at Universal, imagine how cool that would be. They could start in the 50s with lots of cool retro features, then all the 'futuristic' stuff like flying cars, and end up in an exciting 1800s shootout!

[@ScottyDunn]

It would be amazing if they put a new Back to the future ride in. It would be a hit

[@richardtigchelaar5120]

Great history making!! Brought things 'up to date' in a refreshing way.

[@ScottyDunn]

Glad you enjoyed it thank you!

[@JeffWarren47]

Great video.Subbed. BTTF is one of my favorites. I was on the Fox lot in Hollywood and was in complete awe looking at the building that had the clock. I’m gonna watch ur movies too. I love anything sleep related.✌🏾 Ur channel is going to be a new favorite of mine.

[@ScottyDunn]

Jeff thank you so much! I appreciate you.

[@CovertUnicornASMR]

I appreciate that you get into the headspace of the actor and it makes total sense. Eric Stoltz tried to use method acting for a film that didn't warrant that. He was probably riding really high from the Golden Globe nomination and just didn't realize that he didn't have to take his next gig (Back to the Future) so seriously. It must have really sucked to be fired from one of the most classic films ever. Although if they kept him as the lead, would it have been the classic film it is today?

[@ScottyDunn]

I honestly don't think it would've been as good with him in it unfortunately. He's a good actor but the vibe of the movie as it is today works because everyone is on the same page. Thanks for watching!

[@davidjames579]

@@ScottyDunn Would you be interested in watching a serious take on the BTTF story? How do you think it would fare?

[@ScottyDunn]

@@davidjames579 I would be very interested. Especially since we have the original already. I'm personally attached to the tone of the original but my curiosity makes me wonder what the more serious take would be like. If we didn't know what we'd be missing, we might even LOVE the more serious version.

[@davidjames579]

@@ScottyDunn It is fascinating to ponder what the original vision was. Gale has said in original drafts, Marty was contemplating suicide at the beginning, because his life and family life was so hopeless! I wonder if Stoltz signed on for that character and movie, and couldn't break from it, when the scripts changed.

[@ScottyDunn]

@@davidjames579 Wow that is a piece of info I've never heard before. Very interesting. Yeah that would explain why his take was SO different. Thanks for sharing that.

[@griffinlaw9367]

9:22 It's worth noting that J.J. Cohen, who was recast as a member of Biff's gang, was originally cast in the role of Biff but was too short compared to Stoltz, so they cast Tom Wilson in the role instead.

[@ScottyDunn]

Crazy to think about that. Must’ve been a little hard to swallow for Cohen, but he seems like a good sport and at least he got to be in the movies.

[@hectorlopez1069]

He was white zack in the principal

[@TomNashTV]

Loved the video

[@ScottyDunn]

Thanks Tom!

[@RenePeraza]

I too went through an entire recasting once in 2000. BTW: I'm a SAG member now but this was before I was. I was working on an indie film and at some point, I noticed they/we were shooting only other coverage and not really mine. I was soon told I was off the project. What sucks is that I clearly remember my audition and everybody cheering that they'd finally found their 'Bob' - the character's name. I had even gone through 2 months of body training, but in the end, I was off the project. I actually don't know if they ever finished it. I only wish I'd have some of my footage or set shots because I remember it looking great!

[@PetProjects2011]

Do you remember the film's title or what other actors were in it?

[@RenePeraza]

@@PetProjects2011 yes, of course. The Solaris Films project (shot in San Francisco) was called 'Borderline.' The lead actress is/was Jackie Parker. The Director's name was/is Lisette Barcellos. I haven't seen or heard of her, the Director or the film since 2000. Frankly, don't know if they ever finished it, and I've done my share of Googling!

[@MarkRDKing]

my fave movie of all time too....although I couldn't get my plate as OUTATIME....I did get OWDATIME... I saw the movie for the first time in 1985..as the second movie in a double feature at the theatre..it wasn't "officially" released yet and was being tested in certain markets...I don't remember what the first movie was. but when BTF came on..I was completely mesmerized. The fact that Fox was so tired while doing the movie..(I believe he worked from 7 till 2 in the morning while doing family ties), gave his character the feeling he was in a dream, and everything wasn't really happeningý. The final scene when he wakes up in his "renovated" 1985 bed and home hints to perhaps it didn't, until Doc shows up again in his driveway with the Delorean. This allows the "hint" for the continuation for part II. A sequel was NEVER Zemeckis's plan. Bob never wanted to make one, but Universal told him (once it became a hit) , if he didn't do a sequel, they would find somebody who would. Note: I always found it very interesting that the movie had a feel of the Disney movies of the 50's..yet Disney turned it down because one of the execs told Bob that Disney.. "does NOT do movies about incest!!."😂..I bet that guy was out of a job soon after.

[@ScottyDunn]

I dig the variation in the license plate! 😎

[@joekelley5121]

Michael has a fun-loving unserious view of things. We could all use more of that. 🙂

[@lovelydiva06]

True but he can be serious and dramatic as well, he’s an all rounder

[@mikekillagreen9432]

This was incredible. Great video!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thanks Mike!

[@kjh5317]

I’ve heard this story before. But this video is a fresh, enjoyable take. Lots of fun. Thanks!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you!

[@billhenricksen7419]

Great job! Just stumbled across your channel.....watched once. Ya got me. I can see clearly in an instant......in a strange way....your video reminded me of watching the wonder years from so long ago....thank you!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you so much! I love the wonder years so it makes me happy that you made the association.

[@billhenricksen7419]

@@ScottyDunn let's keep it going buddy!! Thanks for the reply

[@jj-if6it]

That's so weird to think that in some of his shots, Christopher is actually reacting to what Eric is doing

[@christopherfoote4643]

Exactly. It was recut. But much of the principal photography remained.

[@Totalfreedomliving]

This is an absolutely brilliant video. Very entertaining.

[@ScottyDunn]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching.

[@joemichaels4231]

Great Video!!! I saw this in the theater when it came out....Great Movie!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you! I'm jealous. It would've been so great seeing it with an audience when it came out.

[@mgirl30]

I LOVE Eric Stoltz. But yeah, so glad they were able to get Michael J. Fox for the role. He was perfect for it. Stoltz..I loved in "Some Kind of Wonderful." His nuanced interpretation was perfect for the sensitve artist/mechanic with the tomboy for a best friend. These things just have a way for working out for the best. :)

[@petromusic23]

I really enjoyed this!! Thank you for posting! 😊

[@ScottyDunn]

Glad you enjoyed this, thank you!

[@MeltWithU]

It’s really odd that Stoltz won’t speak of this. Almost like it was such a hit to his ego after doing Mask, that he felt it ruined him. Though he did end up making some kind of wonderful after the fact. Which was nice and actually did show a more light hearted comedic side of him. If he were to replace how he was playing, Marty McFly with how he played the character in some kind of wonderful, it would’ve worked better. Though something tells me we’re not getting the whole story. Because many people say that the original draft of the script was much darker, and it was while Zemeckis was filming that he had the Epiphany that it should be a little bit more lighthearted. Which could’ve thrown Eric off. Which is the shame that we cannot get in an interview with him about this. Then again, I never understood the whole character actor thing where people replace themselves with the character they’re playing, simply to stay in character. Because it does put up a wall with him, and the rest of the cast and crew. Because while everybody else was kidding around and being teenagers or 20 year olds, not sure how old everybody was… he was locking himself in his trailer, being a serious, Marty McFly. Though, some of the pictures that you showed… It looked as if him and Leah were kidding around. Which is why I think there is more to the story than we know. Like, maybe they were still polling for Michael Fox, and found out they could get him through the means that they eventually did… And decided before principal photography continued, to replace him with their original choice. Since they were given that option from the studio head. What I don’t get is that, and maybe it was ego and attitude coming off of Mask, somebody in his position knowing how big this film could be… Would have the gumption to tell the writer and director how the character should be played. Which again, could be because the script was more dark originally. Though, the corroboration between the principal actors and cast is that he just wasn’t working out, and him and Zemeckis were butting heads… so who knows? I can’t imagine they would want to sit on the Stoltz footage, knowing that they could sell millions of more copies of the movie with it attached… But there has to be some legal ramifications, preventing it. Like, compensating Stoltz for the residuals. Which I’m wondering if he gets, considering that, at least parts of him are still in the movie. Obviously, there’s no dialogue… but, still… And maybe that’s part of the deal with him getting residuals, he can’t say anything under NDA… which is why nobody can get a interview with him? I’m just spit balling. Also, I wonder if they decided to release this material if they would do an interview with him and try to get in his headspace at the time. It’s such an interesting situation that you wonder how many other times it’s happened in other movies. If it has at all… Thank you for the video and more insight into this. It really is fascinating.

[@ScottyDunn]

It would be unbelievably satisfying to hear Stoltz talk about this whole thing. I don't know why he hasn't talked about it but... Yeah it feels like he was burnt bad with this experience. I understand that. However, it has been a LONG time since that happened. Maybe it would be cathartic for him to spill the beans on it. It might still happen you never know.

[@MeltWithU]

@@ScottyDunn I absolutely agree. But, there must be reasoning behind him remaining silent. Either it’s a personal failure or ego thing, coming off the praise he got with Mask… or it’s a legal thing, where he’s not able to speak about it due to some sort of NDA. Or maybe it’s just an irritation of really none of his films being talked about… Even though I love them personally… Like Back To The Future. The odd thing is, he could be making great money off of KZbin and other sources talking about it, along with his other movies. I can understand as an entertainer, myself, why he may not want to do that. Generally, the second I’m off stage, I am back to being me. Some people enjoy privacy more than fame. So maybe that’s it. But, like you said, it would be nice to know before the principal people in the know aren’t with us anymore.

[@philliplandry4139]

Recently there were all this talk about the making a sequel from the movie "Back to the Future 4. I know MJF is unwell, I believe the right cast for the leading role Marty McFly is nobody other than Eric Stoltz. Eric had mellow out through the years and I feel like that's his chance to redeem himself for the role. I can't see no other actor or actress to filled in that spot but him. He could still keep the franchise as people call it "A coming of age" instead of a reboot. If they cast somebody else like Jenna Ortega or Tom Holland to do the reboot to attract just for the Millennials or Gen Z. The film gonna get some extreme criticism and it will ruined the franchise. If he can't played Marty, they can always make a different new character for the role. Eric is the closest thing to Michael J Fox because they're both the same age and the story would make much sense to continue the sequel.

[@crankfastle8138]

​@@philliplandry4139Tom Wilson has already said there won't be a 4th.

[@amurleopard51]

12:00 - Good that Astral Travel is being mentioned. It reminds me of Quantum Leap.

[@ScottyDunn]

Yes! It's a pretty fun story device. I ended up making two movies with it Mandao of the Dead and Mandao Returns. I also loved Quantum Leap growing up.

[@kaylemathewcomendador6964]

This predicament in a nutshell: *Robert:* Eric, why are you taking this so seriously? This is a comedy we’re doing here. *Eric:* Comedy? I thought we were doing Steins;Gate.

[@michaelkrolewski7406]

I'm sure the studio wasn't too happy with the 2 Bobs realizing the late in the shoot that Eric's performance wasn't working since it cost them more money. Obviously, they had to pay Stoltz as well for his 7 weeks of shooting. Thank God for the shots where Eric doesn't appear that they could later edit into the final cut.

[@beck645]

What a truly great video. I enjoyed every moment. Thank you for being classy. No cussing or vulgar talk like so many do. I look forward to seeing more of your excellent work.

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you so much for letting me know you liked this video. It means a lot to me! More to come.

[@douglasdog1]

BTTF was Fox’s destiny. Just watched his documentary “Still” which I highly recommend. He was originally cast for Marty but the producer of Family Ties hid it from Fox, he never knew until they came back again after Stolz’s failure.

[@ScottyDunn]

I really want to see that doc. Will get around to that soon.

[@SpindlyScoundrel]

His density?

[@crankfastle8138]

​@@SpindlyScoundrelhe meant his density

[@SpiritAnimalVSOP]

With Zemeckis wanting Fox from the beginning, and also having been given the power to recast if Stoltz didn't work out, it wouldn't be hard to imagine Zemeckis actively trying to make that happen. I never understood why he had Stoltz dressed in black, which would not convey a lighthearted tone, but instead a serious one.

[@Arethesethefacts]

Brilliantly put together. Subbed!😊

[@ScottyDunn]

Thanks for subbing! 😄

[@Rossdink]

How does this guy only have 5k subscribers?! He’s gonna have millions

[@ScottyDunn]

I appreciate you, thanks!

[@antech555]

Never knew Eric was once part of the movie. Always thought both Eric and Michael looked similar

[@javierandrade3230]

Coincidentally, Eric Stoltz was later cast to play Martin The Fly in The Fly 2!🪰 Ironically, The Fly 2 was released the same year Back To The Future Part 2 was released!

[@justlaura7177]

This movie was so perfectly made, you wouldn’t know about the crazy complications! What a beautiful ode to the perfect movie! Well done!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you! I remember idolizing Marty. I even used to fall down like him.

[@justlaura7177]

I remember!

[@nomadvrstudio]

Great great video!!! Loved it!!!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you! 🙏

[@felixmiles4909]

Agreed, it would be fascinating to see an alternate version of the movie with Eric Stoltz and see for ourselves.

[@bradebronson9449]

No idea Stoltz played Mask. Wonderful movie.but nobody could play Marty better than Michael.

[@johncambridge7181]

I would like to see the stoltz’s version of the back to the future . I hope they release that version for fans . It will be like evil superman version

[@michaelbedrosian436]

I grew up in Hacienda Heights (next to Puente Hills Mall). We drove by one night and saw the photo booth and wondered when did that get there. Curious now if this was during the break from Stoltz to Fox. Amazing that we drove by that Night and what it meant in film history

[@ScottyDunn]

That is freakin awesome! You definitely witnessed some MAJOR film history there.

[@retrowoohoo468]

I’ve read when Stoltz was let go he wasn’t upset. He didn’t have any comedic elements and struggled with the character.

[@ScottyDunn]

Yeah I read that he was sort of relieved.

[@gregslav6755]

Terrific video!!!!!! Thank you!

[@lucyfuir6386]

I got to see the filming of the hoverboard scene in back to the future 2 from the tram during my trip to universal studios when I was in the eighth grade

[@ScottyDunn]

Nice!

[@andrewyarwood3580]

Really enjoyed watching your mini-documentary. I love BTTF and wanted to know the background to Stoltz's involvement. Thanks for a well-researched and well-delivered video.

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you very much Andrew 🙏

[@BoSmith7045]

I saw this with my dad and his wife at the time. I didn't mention it to my mom because anything involving her would set my mom off. But my mom saw this with someone else and it was so good she had to take me to see it. I didn't mind seeing it twice.😊

[@Dunahoo009]

Great video. Also one of my favorites so glad glad we got MJF

[@DezMarivette]

It’s amazing when this happens. I call it the Aragorn effect but I had no idea it happened with Marty McFly too!

[@Garrysullivanjones]

Great Scott , I must watch my brand new re run of BTTF...heavy

[@Educatingben]

Great synopsis!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you!

[@johnogrady696]

Matthew Broderick is the only other actor mentioned here,other than Fox,who I think could have duplicated the success that Fox made Back To The Future into. I think Broderick would have been fabulous in the role.

[@thesilvershining]

I love Matthew but he doesn't have the physical comedy aspect that Michael J does. Marty needed that, it's part of his charm.

[@Tornado1994]

@@thesilvershining I agree. Back To The Future is the film to me that just seemed like it wasn't just Anachronistic, it was Destined for ONE year and was supposed to come out that Year and was MADE for that year:1985. When you look at everything that transpired before January 1985 with BTTF, it seemed like every thought process, production,script and creative idea was both out of place and out of Timing. Like it wasn't MEANT to be released to the World before '85 or AFTER. As if, it WASN'T time yet. Ironically, it was when 1985 itself Arrived when Back To The Future FINALLY came together perfectly. Not only did Bob Zemeckis and Bob Gale have Michael J. Fox who they had WANTED since the Summer of '84, Not only did they Find the PRIMO role, and FINALLY figure out what Style they needed Marty McFly to have and approach, but the Music, Elements, Fashion, Pop Culture and Malaise Aligned together perfectly. Back To The Future also hit Theaters with Expert Timing. It had some well rounded competition that 4th of July Weekend, but Majority of that Competition had Start Dates pushed back by a Whole Month, giving BTTF tons of breathing room and National Lampoon and Disney being their ONLY Competition for July 1985, which is why BTTF suddenly Became a Box Office Hurricane. That Roared over its competition and eventually showed Steroid Legs at the Box Office.

[@ligairi]

Ben Stiller also read for the part and despite being a master of physical comedy, his audition was terrible

[@FreshandFelicia]

Would love to see an AI edit with Stoltz as Marty just to compare it

[@stuartshire]

Great video BTW thanks

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you!

[@MK384]

an Erick Stoltz version would be actually cool. Maybe an action thriller version.

[@shoutamagatsuchi3076]

Nah

[@robpolaris7272]

He’s a decent dramatic actor but comedy-NOPE

[@DMalltheway]

@@robpolaris7272He was funny in Pulp Fiction

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

@@DMalltheway I always found the scene where he’s going over the types of skag he has kinda funny.

[@stephenbanks5860]

Agreed.

[@vicbaldwin6187]

The MJF version of BTTF is just a re-write version of original BTTF. The original version was darker in tone and was more intended for teenage and adult audience. After Zemeckis, saw ansambled version of BTTF filmed with Stoltz and contacted Spielberg they switched the gears to a comedy.Steven after success of ET figured out that making family oriented movie are more profitable at the box office. Everyone in 1985 tried to do the same thing with Goonies and Explorers. In the end BTTF was made purely for profit , mot as a huge contribution to the movie history. MJF version launched a big money maker on merch.Stoltz version will never have sequels and all this attractions at Universal. Stoltz version was better in the sense of message of the movie, story development of Marty as a guy with feelings and his interior world. MJF version was a movie for kids and Marty is looking at all as an adventure (cartoonish). They shot 9 weeks with Eric -almost the entire movie (7 weeks as documented in Visual Book and secretely and 2 more weeks after January 10 1985). It is hard to believe in Bob Gale's words whet all of them are explaining today making people to believe their fairy tales... MJV version has this 80s flavor, Stoltz version aged better in the sense of interpretation of the serious subject of the family of loosers from the beginning of the movie...

[@ScottyDunn]

I gotta admit, it would be a dream to see the Eric Stoltz Version put together with real effort. Just to compare the two versions.

[@vicbaldwin6187]

Believe me , they have prepared BTTF Stoltz Cut years ago. It is just in vaults at Universal, and c a opy of it at Amblin. Today people are more interesting in this Stoltz Cut than in many other things regarding BTTF and released version with MJF. The BTTF 1 with Fox is really poorly edited movie trying to hide many shots used from Stoltz Cut. It is very noticeable especially in HD on big screen. Different lightening between shots, patern of footage , weird angles, hairstyle of actors are different in particular segments, some of them lost weight between re-shots, another one gained weight during re-shots and Cundey used different lenses to shoot . There is a rare test screen and rehearshal on youtube with different guy as Marty where George McFly played by Crispin Glover is not goofy and comedic at all - looks more an unhappy person with his life. Of course Gale will deny everything.... Here is the link kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZjCmHh_qrRmmac

[@wallflower1852]

@@ScottyDunn Same here. But I'd bet it be decades from now. From what I know, as long as Eric Stoltz alive they wouldn't show it to the public in fear that Stoltz will be hunted by the internet netizens and always compare him with MJF... But tbh, I'd really like to see the Stoltz version. I'd love to see the more serious and darker version of BTTF.

[@ScottyDunn]

@@wallflower1852Absolutely! Who knows, it might have aged really well. I hope they're preserving the footage enough so that we can see it in a few decades.

[@thesilvershining]

The entire appeal and charm of BTTF is because it's a lighthearted comedy that's great for all ages. BTTFII was a lot darker because they didn't want to remake the first film, and I love both equally. But I can't imagine anyone else as Marty McFly and I don't want to either. Why mess with perfection?

[@EliasB100]

Universal Studios Hollywood (the real one) actually has the Back to the Future town intact with the original clock tower. When you ride the tram they take you through it.

[@GamblingPugs]

I never knew that. Great video❤

[@shihtzucorgi1368]

Wow. Imagine if Ralph Macchio is casted as Marty. Its a combination of MJ Fox and eric stoltz energy. Insane. But it would still be a likable character.

[@ScottyDunn]

Yeah I actually think he could’ve pulled it off really well!

[@crankfastle8138]

Wasn't he 30 by then?

[@DMalltheway]

Tom Hanks if the movie was made in the late 70s early 80s.

[@MicheleHuffman-d8c]

Eric Stoltz was great in Mask, but maybe a little too serious for comedy. Michael J. Fox was the perfect choice.

[@Master-Blast]

BTTF was released on my 1st birthday - the best present and the perfect movie 🙌🏻

[@81garbur]

I wish Stolz would talk about back to the future. It's been over 30 years and he's had a great career since then. You'd think he'd be able to laugh about the whole thing now.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

Especially since he got to do Mask, and Pulp Fiction, and The Rules of Attraction, and Anaconda, and many others.

[@BrainBlissedOut]

@@flightofthebumblebee9529 Those films you mention didn't help catapult his career the way BTTF would have. He would have been offered better roles.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

@@BrainBlissedOut yes but life works out as it does and Michael J Fox was always their top choice. Eric was not. He still landed just fine.

[@GrosvnerMcaffrey]

​@SassyMoth Mask will forever be iconic not too mention one of a kind he will always have that under his belt

[@foggynotion7]

​@@BrainBlissedOut as talented as Stoltz is, I have never felt him to be particularly effective "leading man" material. I'm not convinced he would have been offered better roles, and if he did, if he would have succeeded in them. That said, I could see where HE may think differently, and hence why he may harbor resentment all this time later.

[@GinaDunn]

I love this perspective and am excited for more episodes!

[@ScottyDunn]

Thanks babe ❤️ more on the way!

[@abepaulx]

Poor Eric Stolz. I think he'll be remembered more for his bad casting in Back to the Future than anything he's ever done. What a bad deal in life.

[@ScottyDunn]

He's had a good career though. He's also gotten into directing. Yeah it is sorta a downer that he's so well known for this recasting, but he's no slouch when it comes to his career. I think he's doing fine.

[@chrisalberts9414]

Any working actor in Hollywood is successful

[@FootkerSnooball]

@abepaulx Even worse, he's probably remembered jointly as the guy who was sacked as MartyMcFly and as the pedophile father in TheButterflyEffect...Even if Michael J Fox hadn't got Parkinson's you couldn't have pictured him end up doing a role like that which Stoltz had to just to star in a good movie. He ends up sort of being worse than Biff in TheButterflyEffect when he was going to be Marty in BTTF. Both films about going back in time and changing things. Obviously BTTF is way more popular but I still liked TheButterflyEffect despite apparently receiving poor critical reception somehow.

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

Seriously? I still remember him as Lance. John Travolta’s heroin dealer in Pulp Fiction. Zed in Killing Zoe. He’s been in some pretty good shit.

[@himwhoisnottobenamed5427]

@@FootkerSnooball I remembered liking it too. It had an interesting concept. I think people didn’t really give it a chance because it had Ashton Kutcher in it, and he was still Kelso in everyone’s mind at the time.

[@joshthemediocre7824]

I've watched either BTTF 1, 2, or 3 every day last month and i couldn't even guess how many total times i've watched anyone of them. That might sound like a little much but it's more of a comfort thing, i'm single with two cats named Marty & Doc and it's what we like to watch when we're all hanging out..haha Great stuff man, We will watch your movies too. IMO MJF made Marty great, and his chemistry with Doc is what makes the movies great, and also TSW of course, he's great.

[@ScottyDunn]

I love that your cats names are Marty and Doc. That is amazing! I totally get that it's a comfort thing. I'm the same way. I could never even begin to count how many times i've seen these movies at this point.

[@dharmasworld]

It’s interesting how much they had to rewrite given the emphasis on Marty’s “life preserver” and his apparent naval background because of it. It seems almost redundant and doesn’t add much to the film but they must have done all that anyway just to add something extra.

[@Biggarou]

That's a HUGE shame and loss. I have seen a few things that Eric has done and everything I saw him in was academy award acting calibur. He has so much depth and diversity where Fox is funny but he's a one trick pony. He has one character in him and that's about it.

[@babywah3290]

Have you seen Casualties of War?

[@crankfastle8138]

Hardly a loss. It's almost certain that's stoltzs version would not have been as fun nor would they have extended it to a trilogy. It's like people complaining about Dave mustaine getting kicked out of Metallica. It was the best thing for everyone involved especially the fans.

[@ianrogerburton1670]

Love the personal tag at the end !

[@ScottyDunn]

Thank you! 😎

[@Robinhudloom]

Release the Stoltz cut!!

[@ScottyDunn]

Yes 👏

[@TheSolidheroes]

Michael J Fox was born for this part. I watched Back to the Future in 1985 5 times at the cinema It’s awesome to see how this movie has found fans with every new generation.

[@951oct]

Eric stoltz was fantastic in the fly 2

[@ScottyDunn]

Very true!