The cheapest laptop I could find.

[@mrdelirious8706]

It's an extremely "drummer" move to instinctually demonstrate 3 FPS by becoming a metronome.

[@kaitlyn__L]

Can’t resist a triplet groove

[@perplexedon9834]

​@@kaitlyn__L Broke: 3fps Woke: 60bpm 8th note triplets

[@geose69]

do drummers use metronomes?

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@geose69 they ARE the metronome! (Serious answer: not being one myself i can’t speak from experience but afaik it’s only used very sparingly for initial timekeeping training, early on in their career.)

[@yourlocalchaosgoddess]

​@parrotttt no need for one once you know 60 bpm as most songs use multiples of 30 anyways

[@ThunderbolttheFox]

I had to live out of a $300 laptop back when I didn't have a home. You learn a lot about making a junk laptop run reasonably well when it's all you got in your life.

[@wyterabitt2149]

That's around £160 (assuming you mean Australian dollars)! When I had to live on a cheap laptop, I got a decent quality HP business laptop for £120, with an i5-3320m, 8GB of RAM, Windows 7 Pro (free update to Win 10 Pro), and a 500GB hdd. The screen was only 1366*768, but it was bright and usable, extremely basic but good enough. It destroyed laptops like the one in the video. The HD4000 graphics might be extremely limited, but you can play countless classic PC games, even some modern indie games with no issues. You could play GTAV surprisingly well with some tweaks. And it was a great emulation machine, unlocking thousands of games. Never any lag clicking, or browsing online, or anything else really. Battery wasn't too bad either, obviously that was the weakest part of the experience though. With a £20 ssd it was even better, and still less than a brand new junk laptop like in the video.

[@AhrkFinTey]

my first laptop for college had a 32GB emmc, of which the windows OS took about two thirds. i switched over to linux for it real fast

[@brandonthesteele]

I had a new 2GB RAM laptop once, which was bad to begin with, but it was the first machine I used with Windows 8. Virtually unusable out of the box. This video made me nostalgic for the poor days when I was navigating incredibly slow dingus laptops of yesteryear.

[@ThunderbolttheFox]

@@wyterabitt2149 USD. But it had an A8-7410 AMD APU and came stock with 4GB of ram (I upgraded it to 8GB DDR3-1866) and a 1TB HDD (swapped it to a 500GB SSD) I installed a modded windows 10 on it that had a lot of MS features and bloat removed, which made it run pretty reasonably well, I was able to run some modded Skyrim on it, tho by around level 40 the save bloat would overwhelm the cpu. I also dual-booted it with Phoenix OS, which was a linux based Android OS, and for quite some time that let me play mobile games much better than phones could, so that's honestly where I did a lot of my gaming on that laptop for awhile.

[@nikolashumphrey-howell2478]

when i was in college, with classmates who had $1,000 gaming laptops for coding and game development, my laptop was a $100 open-box dell lattitude with 4gb of RAM and a 64gb EMMc drive. we HAD to do our work in Windows so i just kinda had to make do.

[@KexGD]

The fact the benchmark runs better than windows is a sight to see

[@948320z]

The fact that Time Spy runs _at all_ was a sight to see.

[@stefanforrer2573]

people may shit on this laptop but that it was able to run heaven on ultra settings AT ALL is pretty impressive..... honestly if you look at the price/value ratio, the rtx4090 is the faaaaaaaaar bigger scam

[@vfctffu3797]

Windows 10 is ok Windows xp is forever

[@vfctffu3797]

Windows 10 is ok Windows xp is forever

[@vfctffu3797]

Windows 10 is ok Windows xp is forever

[@edw1n2]

Asking a machine with 4gb of RAM to run Microsoft Edge is like asking a toddler to military press 500 lbs

[@llamosita2004]

Just disable the Windows update service and Windows defender service, this will reduce cpu and disc usage

[@kirishima638]

4 gigabytes! And it can’t run a browser. How far we have fallen.

[@llamosita2004]

@FurryCuddler that's the best option if you only want a PC made for work, designing, coding or stuff like that, but if you want a PC for games, then you shouldn't switch to linux, because most of the games are not available in Linux, but still there are some. I installed fresh Arch Linux in my cheapo laptop from 2013, it used to have 2gb ram, HDD 60 gb and a shitty 1 core intel celeron with poor integrated graphics, but I installed it a 8gb ram card with a 240 ssd drive, it runs way better than before and i only use it for graphic design, coding and college stuff, so basically yea I think Linux is the best answer here

[@kirishima638]

@OnyxtheFolf my point is that modern software is bloated and inefficient.

[@SimonBauer7]

​@@llamosita2004if you have this laptop you wont be running any games on it any time soon anyways.

[@MrBruno7447]

It's nuts that people buy these mostly for their grandparents or their kids, precisely the types of user that are the most impatient when things are slow and not working as they should

[@hermitgreenn]

Exactly or how some people will cheap out on laptopa for employees and then complain that shit doesn't get done.

[@edmac1090]

@@hermitgreennfelt that in my soul. All I need to do with my laptop at work is type two reports a day and read two reports. It shits itself if you open chrome and word at the same time. So sometimes we share laptops and use two at once- one for pulling up the report on chrome, one for typing shit.

[@summitier22]

​@@edmac10904 gigs of ram should be illegal nowadays lmao, the difference I noticed when going from 4 to 16gbs is undescribable and I'm aware that 16 is _only_ mid end, crazy how there's hordes of cash grab laptops still being sold with only 4

[@vulpzin]

​@@edmac1090 at least it is that simple, imagine needing to do a bunch of designs(using stinky Corel draw) on a 6gb 2nd Gen i3

[@richardsinclair7661]

@@edmac1090 Wait really? That's insanely inefficient and also sounds incredibly frustrating for you guys to have to deal with. Sheesh.

[@mirrorsandstuff]

EMMC storage is basically equivalent to SD card quality storage. Trying to run a relatively storage intensive OS (especially on first boot - and associated updates) is going to be miserable. Combined with the tiny ram, this wasn't unexpected.

[@AntonyHollingworth]

Yeah, its's the eMMC that really stinks it up. I have a similar machine (Thinkpad 300e) and thinks that write a lot really bork it. It does run TMNT:Shredders Revenge well though and when it's settled down and just running something like Affinity Designer, it performs "okay",

[@Krossfyre]

eMMC is still faster than SD cards by a considerable margin. eMMC 5.1 maxes out at 330 MB/s read speeds, which is a bit below a decent SATA SSD but still faster than HDDs. But it depends on implementation if it'll even come close to those speeds, and of course if they're cheaping out then they're likely not using the latest eMMC either. SSDs are really cheap right now (but prices may be going up very soon), so it sucks they didn't just use that instead.

[@Michael-Archonaeus]

i had a netbook with that crap, it struggled with windows xp

[@vgamesx1]

@@Krossfyre the max read/write means almost nothing though, it's IOPS and all the little files that make slow storage so sluggish.

[@xotoxpv]

agree, however it is very sad any company is creating such computers, or an actual ewaste, when buying used business laptop for the same amount would get you 10x better machine. In any case, windows 11 is a horrible piece of spyware. I suggest, if it is possible, downgrade to windows 10. it will run smoother, without the need of creating a microsoft account, that they could lock when they like it. Furthermore, it is quite ridiculous how Microsoft decided to not allow some "old" CPUs to get windows 11, because they are "too old" but they allow it to run on this garbage. 4GB of ram. what a nutjob. New 8GB rams (end user) go for less than 10€. I am sure they could source some for half of the cost.

[@Xyler94]

Gosh, this reminds me when I was working for Best Buy, and the amount of times I had to explain to customers why buying a cheap laptop was not a good idea. Those who listened got better deals. Those who didn't... Always returned to see me (I was Geek Squad, so computer tech) within 30 days complaining how slow the PC was and if I could do anything about it. Nope, I can't. Because you bought e-waste x3

[@scottmorrison3929]

The Best Buys I've worked at, we all affectionally called these models the "Chromebook Seller" because, at this point, a Chromebook is just a better device.

[@elith6930]

x3 Ah, now it makes sense.

[@aluminatsulana]

Yeeees Omg dude I kmow the pain Worked at a shop that's like.. a "premium Best buy" in germany. I had the same type of customers. I had this one lady that wanted a cheap PC. I showed her a great budget model at like 400€. Too expensive. I went down to 350€. It wasn't realy great... But if she was just gonna browse, Email and do online banking that'll be enough. TOO EXPENSIVE! Next was 299€. A piece of shit. TOO EXPENSIVE I spent an hour trying to explain to her that she already at the bottom of the barrel. She wouldn't accept it.

[@MrFastFox666]

Came here to comment this. What really puzzles me is that most of the time these people are wearing Airpods Pro and carrying a $1000 iPhone. But honestly a 3-5 year old used laptop will be way better than this trash too.

[@elbeetlebeasto]

i worked for Geek Squad too lol.... Double Agent 852. Actually, I started out as a Service Tech before Geek Squad was even a thing at BBY, and yes, PCHO dept sold crap e-waste computers all day long. Then lucky ol' me got to deal with every one of them when they came back the next day all pissed off wanting to return it. Then the CS reps would pass them off to me to try to prevent the return and the PCHO supervisor would get SUPER PISSED if I couldn't save the sale. I was like wtf do you expect when you're selling garbage product??? They would intentionally put customers into cheaper PC's so they could afford the stupid service plan. Ugh what a grind that was. Took the Geek Squad DA position as soon as it came up so I wouldn't have to deal with that shit anymore

[@corruptedaudio5046]

> Cheap laptop > Constantly makes you angry Guess we found the new replacement for the EeePeeCee

[@UserAccount-ThisOne]

the eeepeecee has windows xp though which is why its so useful for old practically useless mp3 nuggets, this thing is running windows 11 which is just the modern day vista, so not only cant it do what the eeepeecee is actually needed for its also even worse to use because windows 11. so if the goal is to replace an already awful machine with a machine that doesnt even function at all then this would be genius

[@donkethemonke-111]

​@@UserAccount-ThisOneyou can probably flash windows XP on that

[@gdradioshack8880]

@@UserAccount-ThisOne One word. Compatibility mode. (yes the computer sucks but still)

[@sdani.]

just Linux

[@gdradioshack8880]

@@sdani. ehh, maybe?

[@mazda9624]

My friend who worked at Best Buy was telling me all about how people would constantly come into the store to buy their kids the cheapest laptop on sale back when the 2020 lock downs were happaning and everyone was doing online school. He had the same laptop returned 7 times!! He kept trying to tell people not to buy the low end computers because they would struggle to keep up with even the most basic 3rd grader school work, and they didn't listen! I can't believe junk like this is even being sold anymore.

[@TechX1320]

hands down the worst company I've ever worked for was best buy... I remember experiencing this too. I finally got out of having to work retail and dealing with the idiots thankfully

[@TommyAgramonSeth]

Getting a second-hand proper office laptop from a few years ago is almost always the better alternative to buying a new bottom of the barrel laptop.

[@jimfixespixels]

I think that’s why there’s a general dislike of windows from Mac people. A solid chunk of the machines that come with windows don’t have the horsepower to just work in a normal manner and windows machines therefore offer up horrible experiences.

[@Gatorade69]

Yep. It's better to spend an extra 100 to 200$ just to get something that won't be a headache, will run 1080p videos and will have enough space for windows updates in the future.

[@Gatorade69]

​@@jimfixespixelsPersonally I have had some bad Macs cough* Intel *cough. I'm actually glad Apple has ditched Intel as the M series is pretty great. However I still hate certain things that Apple does, like charging an arm and a leg for storage and ram. Windows isn't that bad once you get it all set up and luckily there's an app that makes it really easy to turn off all the bullshit in windows. I haven't had any problems with windows since setting it up, however Mac OS requires none of that.

[@RoyalTomato]

When I worked at Microsoft we were instructed to tell customers that Windows 10 would "last forever" and receive unlimited updates. Windows 11 has been such a misstep for the company. It runs so much worse and they made UI changes that did nothing to streamline the Windows experience. The first 8 minutes of this video genuinely resembles the majority of people I've helped when they need to install Windows 11 to a new PC...

[@lasskinn474]

windows 11 manages to make it even more annoying to make a local account as the only account out of the box. ach and the song and dance to jump through thoops to just have a movable taskbar. and it doesn't do anything better than 10, they just didn't port some virtualization stuff back to base 10 and by port I mean just enable.. ffs.

[@roboseypien5526]

From 2019-2023 I was using a 2 core, 4gb of ram Ideapad S145. For how cheap it was it ran windows 10 pretty quick, and would run minecraft at 30fps while occasionally burning my finger tios off. I moved it to Windows 11 mid last year, and it was chugging like a train. Low end devices shouldn't run windows 11.

[@davidpowell8249]

To be fair, Windows 10 isn't much better. If you install any major update you get re-asked the 'please can I spy on you' questions.

[@runnyeggyolk6347]

Yup. Had pretty much the same experience on my $2000 gaming rig so I wouldn't necessarily blame the hardware, that actually seems like it would've been a very decent entry level laptop if you were to upgrade the memory.

[@christiangomez2496]

@@lasskinn474I vaguely remebered first setting up my Windows 11 laptop and I think I had to use a trick to bypass the account creation. That was before I wiped it with the intent to get rid of it. Had to deal with account creation.

[@Yabba0008]

The fact that this brand new pc runs exactly like the 13 year old desktops at school is insane

[@treelineresearch3387]

4GB RAM is pretty much same spec as a low-midrange machine from 13 years ago.

[@tinwas_taken]

only if you upgrade it to 8gb+

[@maikeru6158]

That’s modern windows for you

[@e.n85784]

i mean... my 16 yr old laptop runs even better than this let alone my main laptop

[@MrGamingTurkiye]

Win11 is the problem here for a 4g laptop.

[@conjam86]

My father in law keeps buying these to facilitate his gambling addiction, then complains when they crap out every three months due to popups and malware lol

[@Vexxel256]

Why does your FIL buy pcs to facilitate his gambling addiction

[@conjam86]

​@@Vexxel256gambling websites

[@kb1248]

Cause he gambles online u goofy​@@Vexxel256

[@Whateverfloatsurboat2]

@@Vexxel256 Because gambling addiction, duh

[@Whateverfloatsurboat2]

@@SnickerEater836 digital casinos and stuff

[@JZFeser]

This was the computers that my school gave us. It was impressive how much we managed to get done on them in spite of their problems

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

School giving out computers to kids should be a major prop, even if they arent too good.

[@smartG1123]

I'll rather this than chromeos school let us keep the laptop they gave us but we literally can't use them unless we log in with school credentials and we all know why that bad the best part is that we all was locked out of our emails about a year ago so now that Chromebook is completely useless and yeah I've tried putting Linux on it no dice

[@agustinquiroga9541]

​@@pedrosilvaproductionsHere in Argentina there were programming courses for universities and not only were they free, they gave you a laptop for completing them. I chose one that, although it was generic, came with an 11th gen Intel i5, 8GB of RAM and 480GB of SSD.

[@littleferrhis]

Dude the amount of bootleg youtube sites I found back in the day. Or popping on Mad Max on google drive.

[@FurkanOz480]

Well funny enough my free school gave me something much better it had ryzen 5 pro in it it was tho blocked to not download anything but it could easly run minecraft and roblox and such that was on store

[@Faithy2386]

As someone who grew up on low-end laptops the urge to shout "give it a sec!" was so strong at the start of this. Windows is really the biggest problem with a lot of this, especially W11. It's so bloated. I had a very similar Lenovo Ideapad with a low end AMD A-series APU, and I'd still be using that thing if it didn't get stolen, was a tank running Linux.

[@goontender_lowercase.]

Sameeeeee

[@JeskidoYT]

Unfortunately Lenovo is stuck with Windows forever and ever until the current CEO dies

[@Stuffies2022]

I know next to nothing about computers but I somehow understood everything you just said.

[@Hextiana]

yoo max caulfield pfp

[@itsonlyme112]

The main issue is mostly likely the eMMc storage

[@sirberg4599]

Man, I sure love that Microsoft created S mode to make installing apps easier

[@hotzi9288]

this better be sarcasm

[@aseldesu]

At least now it's a mode you can disable, it used to be a complete hardware structure that'd prevent you from installing non store apps, and now the windows 8 store is dead so those pcs are just landfill material

[@supra107]

Technically true, if you want to treat you computer like a smartphone. Which is antithetical to the decades of WinNT's legacy that Microsoft has worked so hard to keep up and is the reason why people use Windows in the first place. If people wanted easy app installs they'd buy a Chromebook. Microsoft truly is in it's corporate "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" desperation phase. Everything in Win11 just screams "we haphazardly added this because we believe this will bring in profit", especially with how easy it is to remove and restore Win10 levels of functionality.

[@JoCaTen]

When I was looking for a new laptop and found the perfect one I noticed it was running Windows 11 S Mode. I quickly got googling to see how to disable it and the moment I got it and powered it on I just disabled it. Really useless feature, you want security? Don't download from shady sites, have an antivirus and anti-malware and don't be an idiot

[@giddycadet]

​@@aseldesumy first ever computer was like this

[@MillySilly-1]

"best performing browser" as we watch it fail to perform basic tasks like starting up and opening a tab

[@SimonBauer7]

thats the laptop at fault here, on my 16gb ram ryzen 5 8645hs laptop it has no issues (not that id ever use edge but still)

[@MillySilly-1]

@@SimonBauer7 I feel like edge shouldn't need all that just to work like google on a $100 laptop. I've seen a Chromebook perform better than this

[@allisongross2946]

​@@SimonBauer7there is no reason web browsing should require SIXTEEN THOUSAND MEGABYTES

[@NigelMontezuma]

REAL "best performing browser" as I watch Edge actually succeed at both those basic tasks and Safari fails to perform them!

[@uzzybuzzy-t5h]

@@MillySilly-1 well, that's more to do with the fact that CHROMEBOOK is is more efficient than windows

[@babaloo526]

The fact that it even managed to run those benchmarks and not pepper you with shrapnel from it exploding is pretty impressive ngl.

[@Domus_Maximus]

You can skip signing in on W11 but it requires opening a command prompt through a shortcut. Love Windows 11.

[@berkeguzel5979]

Or modify the ISO before flashing to usb and installing it so it skips the signing in.

[@thewubmachine840]

Unlike older versions of windows

[@dragontheminerz]

wasnt there an option to skip it before? and who tf is in charge of removing it?

[@lexwelsh3511]

I thought you could type something like no@thankyou or something in the email address but wouldn’t be surprised if they removed it

[@totalkiller4]

@@lexwelsh3511 This works now no longer do you need to do the cmd thing :) i was screaming this at the video when i seen the log in page haha

[@falconnnn5]

I had the Intel Celeron version of this exact laptop. Crummy old thing, could barely load Chrome without passing out, but dear lord did it save my sanity throughout the pandemic. Basically graduated from school on it. I had to load up Google Meet half an hour before classes if I wanted to be on time XD Still, given that this was all I could afford at the time, it'll always have a special place in my heart. Thank you, you beautiful old nugget.

[@leonro]

The Athlon is actually fairly decent for basic PC use. The problem here is the emmc storage (incredibly bad, not even Linux can fix it) and the low 4GB of RAM (this can be fixed with a light OS like some Linux flavours).

[@scrappBird]

I have the Intel Pentium version of this.

[@Belaziraf]

If you really need cheap basic computer, it's better going with a Chromebook.

[@sdg131]

I have one, too. Barely runs windows and only has like 64 gigs storage. But surprisingly, it runs older games fine, Hell, half life 2 was running at a playable framerate.

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

@@leonroI actually got a Chromebook for Christmas after asking for one. It was actually a nice experience! It was stuck with 2GiB of ram, but it ran linux fine. The lack of storage was an issue though. 16GB of storage is not enough, even under ChromeOS. I miss that thing, I accidentally crunched the CPU to death mounting the motherboard to a piece of wood ;( Hell, I installed ide to sdcards in my 2000's machines. SO MUCH FASTER THEN HARD DRIVES. I'm putting the blame on Windows and putting swap files on nand flash.

[@raywt3237]

And yet this laptop is allowed Windows 11 but my Surface Pro 2017 isn't! 😂

[@DiabeetusPrime]

Looks like you dodged a bullet !

[@Leo-ee1bf]

My 2020 Acer isnt allowed so i just installed Windows insider so i would get 11 anyway😂😂

[@Leo-ee1bf]

​@@DiabeetusPrimewhat happened?

[@Leo-ee1bf]

​@@DiabeetusPrimeWhy?

[@MarcelDerLPer]

@@DiabeetusPrime vr needs windows 10

[@Norfade-]

I remember that we have windows laptops for middle school and they ran terribly, but anyone that took the technology class (I did) he would upgrade our computers RAM without the school knowing, he'd make it an assignment where we open it up, take out the 2gb of RAM, and plug in the 16 GB one, super fun and he would always guide us. Our laptops were always the fastest lmao

[@Lizlodude]

I don't quite miss the 1" thick laptops, but I had to work on an old 2010's era one recently and good lord they are so much easier to get into. Like 4 screws and 5 minutes to swap the drive, getting the donor one out probably took half an hour and a full iFixit kit lol. (plus of course half of it was clips so it'll never go back together quite right)

[@deepspacecow2644]

@@LizlodudeI My favorite laptop is my current dell latitude 7490. The higher end versions have i7s and thunderbolt 3. The nice thing is that 8 captive screws and the metal plate comes off with no clips to break. Battery, nvme ssd, wlan card, wwan card, and dual ram slots are all accessible and I iirc the charging port is on a daugterboard. I love that machine. I also picked it up for only $160

[@Lizlodude]

@@deepspacecow2644 yeah the Latitudes and some XPS seem to be pretty good. I have a 2020 model Inspiron and it's a piece of junk. Really hoping Framework adds a touchscreen and IR camera option before mine actually kills itself.

[@Pasi123]

@@Lizlodude My main laptop is an old ThinkPad T440p which can be opened in few seconds. It has a bottom panel which can be slide off after removing 2 screws, it gives you access to the socketed RAM, CPU, WiFi card, 3G/4G modem card which could be replaced with an SSD, 2.5" SSD, and a screw which holds in the DVD drive (which could also be replaced with an SSD). The i7-4800MQ 4c/8t mine has is more than enough for what I use the laptop 99% of the time. It's a lot more powerful than the Athlon Silver 3050U in the video, though the old i7 is also a lot more power hungry. And of course the T440p has a real SSD instead of a crappy slow eMMC storage

[@mr.technologysilva8856]

I brought my own personal laptop to school, before I had a laptop, I was carrying a desktop class to class in highschool, the desktop was one I pulled out of the garbage at a computer store... yes I found a computer in the garbage that was faster than the school's, it is an i7 4790 and 16gb ram, anyways, I think every student should pull a computer out the trash and use it, it'd save the school money too

[@OfficialWikipedia]

The bowed keyboard in my experience is usually a sign of a spicy pillow underneath. Terrible if it came out the box with one LOL, be safe with that thing.

[@TheGreatLordApples]

I've worked with these dinguses before. They don't have the battery there, it's just bad build quality and warping plastic. You can even press down on the bowing and make them wobble because it's basically hollow inside.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

Bruuuuv and he was fookin' poonchin' et! That could've gone extremely poorly, lol.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

@l.a1532 I suggest taking the back off your laptop and checking if the battery is a hot pillow- if it is, you should get a new one for like 20~60$- it could save your life to replace it. Or just buy a steam deck for like 300$ and save your self the hassle and get a really good pc.

[@therealqualong]

or just build gaming pc for 400 dollars and get a very capable pc

[@Thy_Boss]

Lenovo Ideapad keyboards like this one will eventually fail in bizarre ways where the entire middle of the keyboard won't work, while a few keys at either end still work. Replacing the keyboard means removing the screen, flipping the machine over, taking _EVERYTHING_ else out, and breaking _DOZENS_ of solder points. Speaking from direct support experience.

[@utfigyii5987]

To prevent e-waste like this, there should be minimum benchmark scores they need to get to be able to sell them.

[@timiko4]

well problem is, benchmarks are not that bad, that Athlon should run around i3-7100 pefrormance, far away from not being usable. Problem is overall build and that funny 4GiB ram with windows on emmc storage

[@Shark_Builds_Bro]

This computer would fly if it had Zorin OS instead of Windows

[@Vexcenot]

@@timiko4 so why tf did they sell it with those?

[@MagnetBlock]

yes

[@nijiro3833]

​@@Vexcenot to get the price down to a 200usd mark. You really can't fit a good ssd there let a lone a 8gb of ram without exceeding the budget.

[@DJDekgit]

These tiers of laptops/computers are for old people who *THINK* they're getting a good deal, when they're spending money on complete junk. My grandma is one of them. "It's just so slow, can you speed it up?" No, because it's e-waste and I told you they are junk.

[@capcohan931]

Debloat it.

[@DJDekgit]

@@capcohan931 L. No. It's ewaste still being sold to unknowing people. My phone has more power than a lot of these junk laptops.

[@capcohan931]

@@DJDekgit I'm using a ~10 year old laptop with and i5-3340M and Intel HD Graphics 4000 and 4 Gb ram. With debloating and optimizations I can run games like GTA 4. This whole video it just feels like he's shitting on people who can't afford any better. It's only e-waste if you don't know what you're doing.

[@blackmambaphobia]

Not hearing the “and thanks to all my patrons” at the end really caught me off guard, I was 100% expecting it.

[@venykrid]

Yeah I liked the scrolling names, we should bring them back but for Floatplane instead

[@ArrowSwift509]

I know it won't happen, but I really think it would be cool to see a "Getting the nugget laptop to run 'well' " video using Linux. Just curious what the difference would be

[@franklee4598]

Was about to comment this, he even mentioned Linux in the video. This video would be really really dope!

[@serendipitylove3930]

Ooo I third this

[@boogiehasfun]

at least 10 times faster because linux is, you know, free and has no bloat!

[@trip.le.threat]

I own this exact laptop and my first move was to install Linux Mint. It runs fine. Unlike Windows, in which I might as well have a coffee break if I need to switch tabs.

[@CainXVII]

Ooh, as someone who wants to try making the switch myself I would love that

[@Crazehness]

My favorite thing about this channel and why I get excited over a new upload is the sheer joy and glee in his voice over silly things like absolute garbage iPods turning on or this laptop topping out at 3fps. It's the kind of stupid joy we should all strive for

[@thatguyalex2835]

Agreed. I wish everybody in life had the same enthusiasm as DankPods about mundane things such as iPods or unique things such as rare 1990s MP3 players. :) Another thing, DankPods could review the coolest computer, the Framework Laptop. Parts can be swapped out of that thing.

[@HeroGenix]

I remember having one of these because my dad refused to buy me a mac because "you're just using it for school" - only for me to challenge him to try and use it for a day for his work. He bought me a macbook promptly after that

[@ToxiicAsAyyy]

Big brain moment

[@Yasho4867]

Bruh why a MacBook could have spent a bit more money and could've gotten a studio or a gaming laptop based on your preferences

[@HeroGenix]

I already had a gaming PC so having a gaming laptop wasn't a big priority, plus my experience with windows laptops have not been great and I just decided a macbook would suit what I needed to do. Macbooks are not the best laptops out there for the money, but to give apple credit their OS and ease of use has won me over. Only gripe I have with my laptop is that it has their infamous butterfly keyboard which while nice feeling is very prone to breaking

[@Yasho4867]

@@HeroGenix problems with os are only on low end devices since windows is a bit heavy if you spent around even 750 - 1000$ you could get a powerhouse of a laptop,but looking at it it's your preference at the end

[@yungpm]

@@HeroGenix>has gaming pc >makes dad buy him MacBook

[@lizardofoz8289]

So cool, turns any game into a slideshow!

[@Sumptions]

lol true

[@kacperpie5963]

and some games into a landmine

Fun Fact: On my T490s, which was on the very expensive side of Lenovo laptops, the webcam blocker (Called “Privacy Shutter” here) is black, with a *red dot* in the middle. That was so confusing at first, as it looks *exactly* like a “Recording” icon. To add to that, there still is the unblocked lens of the IR face recognition camera next to it. So it really looks like “Yes, this position means that the lens right next to me is now recording.”

[@phantomwarrior8686]

The funny thing is that he said that when the computer wasn't even booted yet 😂😂

[@broadestsmiler]

Same thing for my Thinkpad T14! Must be a Lenovo thing.

[@Viky2594]

I think its red so you dont have to look closer to see if the lens cap is on but red is a really bad colour 😭

[@hedgeearthridge6807]

Now I want to see Wade install a really lightweight Linux distro on this laptop and see how it goes! It's a perfect candidate since it doesn't have Nvidia bullcrap in it, no need for fighting drivers and screen tearing.

[@aerochrise]

@@ComixProductionsBro that’s what he said?

[@morrisstanforth3278]

@@ComixProductions Ahhhhh the innocence of not having to try and make Linux work with an Nvidia GPU and then eventually giving up and disabling the GPU and using IG. Also, my Raspberry pi 4 runs faster than this Windows laptop, Linux would be a vast improvement to this.

[@samsam21amb]

@@ComixProductionsthe comment said ‘since it doesn’t have nvidia’ what’s your point, and have you attempted to install Linux on machine with nvidia graphics, most installers don’t support the proprietary drivers.

[@DrBackBeat]

Practically any Linux distro will run buttery smooth on a machine like this. You'll have responsiveness unheard of on a CPU like this. Until you launch a browser. I was tinkering with an old EeePC (practically the same as Wade's) that I put Windows 7 on at one point, and it run awfully. I just wanted it to be a little netbook to chat on while gaming on my main PC but it wouldn't do a damn thing as soon as I launched anything internet-related. It came with Windows XP and that on its own still runs beautifully. Until you launch a browser :-P

[@ComixProductions]

@@samsam21amb OHHHHHHH I'm so sorry, I thought they meant that the laptop wouldn't have pre installed Nvidia software on Linux, not that it doesn't have Nvidia components. And no, I haven't installed Linux on a laptop before apart from once back when my dad did it on an old HP Elite book to try and see what was wrong with the SSD. I tried reading the comment again and again to understand what was meant but I simply didn't get it. Sorry.

[@lambda-m1676]

I have this. I fucking hate it. I've already punched it 10 times and it's STILL ALIVE Update: I killed it. Finally. Earning up for an actual PC. All it took was a lotion bottle

[@skinwalker69420]

Install Linux on it or something man, I hope you aren't using Windows on it

[@mdrashid6949]

use a sledgehammer

[@yungpm]

Only 10?

[@huddybudx3_69]

my sister has dropped her phone like 30 times and counting and only a minor scratch on the screen. it being still alive after 10 punches doesnt surprise me

[@fshffkf]

​@@huddybudx3_69 my classmate dropped his phone from a 4 story building and not a single scratch somehow

[@UncleThor]

I am a Lenovo guy. Once upon a time, I had an IdeaPad, but it was a little more pricey than what you spent, and it was adequate. Then I got a Lenovo Yoga Book. Still just shy of $1000, and it served me well for a good four years before becoming sluggish. I shoveled out a good chunk of change just recently on a ThinkPad, and it is night and day. The ThinkPad is hands down the best computer I have ever used, and I once owned a MacBook. It has taken every game I have thrown at it. When it comes right down to it, it's all about how deep your wallet is. Lenovo is actually a very good brand if you can afford it. It really is one of those "go big or go home" brands.

[@pvic6959]

he pulled out the laptop and i was like "holy fu this is what i have" (im typing on it now). the stats are a tiny bit better than this one. I just needed something decent, cheap, and something i can take on the go. I have a full PC at home. i dont need a $1000 laptop too

[@kaozer666]

my personal laptop is a lenovo T440s. its not *great* but considering its pretty much 10 years old. it still runs great. ive got the original two batteries in it and get 6 hours of batt (on linux). its made me consider getting replacement batts.

[@nep-nep6575]

@@kaozer666I have the higher end T440 that I use for school stuff and my god, one of the best $27 I’ve spent on a computer. I love the 2011 MacBook Pro that I also have, but the T440’s battery lasts forever in comparison.

[@whatsallthebrouhaha]

​@@pvic6959if you ever do need a $1000 laptop don't go for Lenovo. I have an $800 Lenovo and it does good enough but it got outdated faster than it's contemporaries and there were other laptops I could've bought at the same price point with better specs if I had paid better attention

[@haaxxx9]

I bought an Ideapad Gaming 3 laptop on sale last year (2022/3050 4GB/8GB DDR4/256GB SSD) and upgraded the storage and ram (2TB SSD/32GB DDR5...) for a shy of $1000 last year and so far it's been amazing with only a few hiccups like the screen isn't the best, or the standard lit keyboard have basically two settings of on and off, the internal speakers are a lot to be desired... BUT it's super quick when booting up, doing basic tasks like web browsing and decent enough for modern AAA games for my needs that it's somewhat replace my aging 8+ year old desktop that is running a 4790K/16GB DDR3/old 1TB (x3) HHD's that might be it's time for their EOL which I am freaking the fuck out but hopefully I can migrate my shit into one big ass SSD before my HHD's all fail one day... But other than than, I am really happy for my Lenovo laptop! I would buy a Lenovo laptop again in the future if it's a good deal.

[@-arGru]

Just want to add, the fact the cover is red is a great feature. We sell plenty of Lenovo laptops where its either black or has a red outline, and people open tickets when their webcam isn't working. Those tickets are the easiest to close but still a waste of time.

[@talkssometimes]

Im curious how it would work with an older OS, that laptop would be unbelievably power in the 90s and early 2000s

[@BlooperStupid]

Yeah, 4gb of ram is only something that'll work like 10 years ago. It's not gonna cut it nowadays

[@claudiobizama5603]

That's another problem. Drivers, newly made low end machines can't run on older OS that it wasn't made of. This is peak eWaste. The only way you can use this is with Linux.

[@StarfywalkingTYPH]

Or some modded Windows, like Tiny11@@claudiobizama5603

[@dud3655]

Yeah, but that was 30 years ago...

[@spaceguy4751]

Watch matkc's modern windows 98 saga. It's basically what your talking about and it shows quite a few issues with this.

[@christinap.4745]

My parents got me one of these Lenovos on a Black Friday sale when I started university in 2018. I was studying graphic design. I used that thing until I actually broke it. Looking back on it, I ask myself how on earth I let myself be in the trenches like this lmao

[@vcom741]

If you used it for graphic design, it couldn't have been as badly speced as the Lenovo in the video.

[@BinaryCounter]

Got my mom a similar nugget, and honestly the best thing to do with these is to just preinstall firefox, an adblocker and debloat the hell out of windows. If all you need to do is surf the web, check emails and type shit in word, these things can actually be decent. She loves it and has never had an issue.

[@Acethe2nd]

Also helps if you throw a 20$ 4gb or even 8gb ram stick, these laptops usually have a free slot that's easy to get at

[@glossymouse7712]

I got some no name laptop on a heavy discount for 99€. It's got the worst CPU that Intel currently makes but it seems to be way better than whatever that Athlon junk is. Windows 11 performance is actually acceptable. But Windows itself is so awful, it drags the laptop from "pretty good for the price" to "borderline unusable". I'd install some good distro if I didn't need a few programs (for which I got the laptop to begin with) which will never work on Linux.

[@spencerwarren8302]

​@@glossymouse7712I didn't know they still made CPU tribalism. For real though, slap Linux on it and see how much better it can run. Windows 10 is trash on modern hardware let alone 11 on lower end stuff

[@OK-cp8qw]

This laptop damn sure needs one storage and ram upgrade. Also at this price I sure got an older ryzen one and one m.2 ssd its flying now.

[@OK-cp8qw]

​@@glossymouse7712I think you got an actual ssd. While this one got emmc storage , its like an sdcard

[@junjiexie]

I remember opening one of these A quarter of the motherboard is blank spots where chips should go (not blank space. empty spots where things clearly are missing) That's how these companies create the "starting price"

[@LaughingOrange]

Some poor engineer was tasked with removing as many components as possible, and they clearly did their job, because the computer stil "works".

[@wardedthorn6523]

What you're describing is modularity and expandability They included places to put upgrades--something that is actually sorely lacking in the modern market. The alternative is to build a motherboard with only one set of hardware in mind, requiring the end user to purchase a new device any time they want better performance a few years later when software demands more power. To be clear-I'm not defending this hunk of junk. This laptop *sucks.* That's just not one of the reasons it sucks? It's a practice that should be applied in every product wherever possible.

[@junjiexie]

I'm specifically calling out oems for selling "new" devices that suck from bootup to ewaste bin And nope, no (reasonable) upgrades possible for bare ram solder pads

[@Thy_Boss]

@@wardedthorn6523 No, you should listen to the commenter. I know you want to think the best of this machine. But the comment is spot on. These are bad mobos in bad machines. The best you are going to do with these junkpiles is add RAM and a SSD and experience the bottleneck at the processor level.

[@UchihaAayush-me3qu]

Lol I'm a kid and I too opened an low range Lenovo nugget like this only worse with an unknown igpu and an celeron n4020.I thought I'm gonna upgrade the ram to 8gb but then saw the ram was soldered.

[@philiphanhurst2655]

Most of my teenage years were spent with cheap laptops like this (yes plural, they would always break within a year or so). Trying to get games to run was almost more fun than actually playing them, it was always a surprise to see what would work. Ended up mostly playing older games. Nowadays I'm spoiled by my mid-range desktop running linux. I've still got a spot in my heart for these things, but 4 gigs of RAM was what I was running on these nuggets back in 2016. Would love to see linux on this thing.

[@SamuelLing]

Core memory unlocked I remembered running GTA 5 on my asus crappy laptop with nvidia 610m, somehow managed to make it run 60 fps while the game looked like dogshit, tons of fun tweaking the setting file to optimise the gpu and the ram

[@djinsh626]

Same. I actually kinda glad I'm growing up with this pile of shits because I actually learned a lot of things when trying to make things work in that pile of shit.

[@Jacob0ne]

Remember my ideapad and how I used to play on Minecraft back in school on its lowest settings possible and it used to average about 2-20fps. Miss those days if I'm being honest

[@Stealth86651]

Lenevo's had some issues with some of their lower end models. I bought a netbook, x120e or something of that lot. Just moving files would max out the CPU and start throttling. Blew it out, reseated the heatsink, switched out the thermal paste and got a bit less throttling but it still was basically unusable. Even watching 720p youtube would get laggy. Their lines meant for commercial stuff are rock solid though, that's sorta their main business anyway.

[@AbiRizky]

And their legion gaming series is the bomb. Been using one for two years and no complaints except for the wifi but that's more of an AMD thing

[@ih4t3u28]

And it`s actually impressive, how cheap you can get some of their older buisness models used. I got an old ThinkPad P51 with an i7, a nvidia quadro gpu and 32 GB of RAM for 300€ with windows installed. The thing is from around 2017 and can even run some older games like GTA V. I mean yeah, you dont get any warrenty or stuff like that, but if you know your way around pc`s, it`s a great option.

[@logicphile6207]

Windows is free if you just ameilorate. @@ih4t3u28

[@Markyparky56]

I remember having an old vista box that would max out its single core dragging a selection box on the desktop. Good times.

[@Australiaisupsidedown]

2011 netbook slow?

[@brockbreacher]

The fact of that it's such a nugget that you got an achievement for running the benchmark is gold

[@kyle_mk17]

10:40

[@948320z]

It even has a glowing icon, which means it's a _rare_ (less than 5% global) achievement lol

[@brockbreacher]

@@948320z indeed, it's a genuine rare nugget lol

[@Real_Scott_Pilgrim]

watching this video on one of those laptops. It's been in use for under a year and it's already on its deathbed. The plastic is literally falling in chunks, the hinge is stiff and causes the screen to disconnect itself, the dash key is just missing entirely, it doesn't read SD cards properly, and last night while trying to stream a game on Discord it was running Donkey Kong Country 1 at 6 frames per second. Truly amazing

[@GameOver-nm2us]

wow...what a beast!

[@maydaymayday4225]

I remember using this laptop to open discord. It took ONE HOUR FOR IT TO WORK!

[@joellawrence9079]

Mine is 2 years old and the tab, caps lock, backspace, and T buttons just straight up stopped working. Two weeks after it just entirely stopped connecting to any wifi or hotspot network.

[@pvic6959]

I too have this laptop with slightly better specifications though. i havent had tooooo many issues. there are some. however i have a PC at home, i just need something to take if i need it. Funnily enough this is better than my old $800 laptop which at the end would struggle HARD

[@jboby93]

as someone who works in IT, we used to recommend lenovo to our clients when they needed new machines. the ideapad, and all of the issues you described and more (on the mid-high tier models to be clear, we weren't buying literal e-waste as depicted in the video lol), constantly, over and over again, as well as issues with other models and products, is why we changed to HP

[@Jordan4Ibanez]

How the heck is this laptop even able to run these benchmarks? With 4gb of shared ram between the cpu and gpu?! That is actually impressive

[@pleepler]

I've owned 2 Lenovo laptops in my life. First one I've used for like 7 or 8 years and now my grandma is using it. Absolute warrior. Now I have a gaming Legion and I love it. Great keyboard, and especially the price to performance ratio is splendid Cheap laptops are shit. If you can't spend more than 300-400€ for a laptop, get a refurb, don't get a brand new nugg

[@alexogilvie1840]

Can definitely get behind this, even with more expensive laptops look on the second hand market cause I managed to snag a hp victus 16 for 800 in a like new condition from cashies. I think I only got it for that cause whoever set the price must have been looking at the US price (800 new). Been happy with it since and hasn't failed yet

[@hamzasajjad6792]

refurbs are definitely better. i got a 160 usd refurbished laptop back in 2020 and it still gets a lot of use today and it's fine. just had to get the battery replaced once. Edit: 2020, not 2021

[@pleepler]

@beenguy5887 Even Linus said countless times that if you're going cheap, either buy used or buy refurbed. Cheap laptops and cheap GPUs are a very bad deal and pretty much e-waste. By buying used and refurbed you're avoiding making a new device for just a bit longer Dear Apple, this is sustainability, not a "refurbished" M1 Macbook that's 100 USD cheaper than a brand new one

[@Christian-gr3gu]

Tried getting a legion and literally heated up and tried catching on fire

[@hamzasajjad6792]

@@Christian-gr3gu F 😭

[@groggyme]

Honestly the i3 versions of these ideapads are really decent. 8gb ram, 256gb ssd is perfect enough for basic things. Super decent.

[@peakjuggler]

can confirm! i bought one two years ago for basic schoolwork and put 16gb of ram into it and it runs everything really nicely!

[@JeskidoYT]

I was gonna say, I could have sworn IdeaPad 3 was their LOWEST series

[@bluedogtransportwa]

I got an acer aspire 3 on a sale for $580, it goes amazing for how much i paid. Browsers and multiple documents no worries. 5th gen ryzen and 8gb of ddr5

[@MiGujack3]

​@@bluedogtransportwa Bad price if usd. I expect 16gb for that price.

[@faxinspace]

yeah i got one with a 8300f i think it was ran great compared to the nugget in the video lmao

[@harryman_1324]

I actually bought a laptop almost identical to this one a couple years ago(i think it was just an older model) Its shit, but perfect for my use case. I already had a gaming desktop at home, and simply needed any laptop that could connect to the internet to remote into my desktop for classes at uni. I feel kinda bad that I contributed to these continuing to get made, but I knew it was the right device for my use case.

[@Pedro-zh6kk]

Remote connection is such a underestimated power move that more people should use, especially to breathe life of older laptops.

[@Kevin-mx4vm]

​@@Pedro-zh6kkjust need to be a high enough resolution screen and large enough

[@apad0440]

2:42 I got an ~ £750 thinkbook a couple years back and it dented almost immediately. I wanted a t440p at the time & I still do now

[@TheGoldfishArmy]

The thing is, Lenovo is capable of making some really good laptops. I have a school-issued ThinkPad and it's great for all my engineering courses and it runs games pretty well. (all on Windows 11) It's just that their cheaper stuff has a noticeable difference in quality.

[@aelfwynn94]

they are good, as long as you use legion series :D

[@Silver_wind_1987_]

Hehehe I had the thinkpad. It was a pile of reverbished garbage. They blue screened ALOT 😂 and this was elementary school.

[@radiosuitcase1]

what kinda of elementary school did you go to where they gave you thinkpads?!

[@VcrThunder]

the rule of lenovo is. if it doesn't say Thinkpad don't buy it

[@NascarRacingFan5]

My middle school had low end think pads years ago running windows 7. They were quite terrible, when I got to HS they upgraded to the Lenovo yoga series of think pads running windows 8.1 (even though windows 10 just had been released). Night and day difference in quality.

[@unrepresentativeaid9265]

5:37 “oh no.. this unresponsive page is unresponsive”

[@brurmonemt]

wow what an interesting observation dinkpads

[@PaV_Live]

I'd be super interested in seeing a video of you installing a Linux distro like Linux Mint on that Lenovo and see a before and after. Would be a massive test to see how far Linux has come and also be a really good tool for the community to see how we could improve the experience! May be worth a look :)

[@Digitalis-Nervosa]

​@notanetcher😂

[@mariusiordan5421]

​@notanetcher some kind of anti linux warrior, seen ya nearly on every comment about Linux 😂 Did it hurt your feelings or something?

[@PaV_Live]

@@mariusiordan5421 it ain't even worth replying to him lmao Buddy's got some stuff to work out on his own

[@pacicidal]

​@@mariusiordan5421 They're probably one of those people that "tried" to use Linux while not being familiar with it. More than likely, instead of researching first, they went straight to a power user distro instead of something previous-Windows-user friendly, then assumed every Linux distro is the same way and decided they simply _must_ tell everyone Linux is unbearable at every opportunity.

[@launchpending]

a $20 ssd and Linux would go a long way, but with zero tolerance for things not working out of the box, I don't think it'll go far in a video from Wade.

[@mildlyconcerning]

"Welcome to Microsoft Edge, the best performing browser on Windows" Also Microsoft Edge: 0.5 fps

[@firestormjupiter]

probably can’t really get anything better on such an underpowered laptop and resource-hungry os anyway. edge is objectively one of the most memory efficient chromium browsers.

[@Thiswhat22]

Its Cause of the specs not browser

[@FloorDoughnut]

lmao i lived out of a laptop like that for way too long in college. sometimes when i think my big pc is running bad i boot up the old laptop to remind myself how much worse it could be. it keeps me humble.

[@NaxoritosG]

I keep a laptop with windows 7 for the exact opposite reason, whenever I'm pissed with my powerful windows 10 pc I start the old win7 laptop and see what could've been

[@GameOver-nm2us]

ahh I am not the only one, when my laptop does a little hiccup here and there (very rare but it happens) I always get reminded of my dark part with old office laptops, then suddenly I am very grateful for what I got now

[@linux-power-user]

Lenovo has great Linux support, so you can get more power out of it with that. Also you could have saved ~100$ if you refused the pre installed Windows (which you can get back afterwards in the EU).

[@exitioregem8466]

Seriously, i have an asus cheapo celeron or atom laptop, i installed manjaro plasma, and it runs smooth. This being an amd based system should make it perform better

[@_Hasboa_]

I have an ideacentre gaming 5i desktop and couldn't install Ubuntu. But that a issue I fixed later by disabling secure boot. Yes can agree. Lenovo's are great lil machines

[@Xetarine]

Agree, they officially support Ubuntu IIRC. Everything works fine on my three thinkpads, except qualcomm wifi sometimes. On thinkpads even macOS works well, at least last time I did it.

[@ouiVEVO]

Yeah but he's in 'stralia. They don't have EU regulations, even though they are in eurovision, which is half of the requirements

[@EnnayXIX]

​@@_Hasboa_Disabling secure boot is literally one of the prerequisites to flash an ISO

[@excalibur2038]

Insane that they put windows 11 on it, geuss they really care about selling features more then actual user experience

[@iXx4L]

I hate chrome books but this is the only time they should’ve make it a chromebook Edit : actually Linux would be better.

[@girzarro]

im fairly certain every single new pc being sold these days is gonna be preloaded with win 11 atp. it's depressing as hell

[@starcrysis23]

How?? My PC is 16gb ram i7 processor, etc and I can’t upgrade so how??

[@nasenbein6924]

@@starcrysis23 Maybe not enough space on your system-partition.

[@timiko4]

@@starcrysis23 TPM

[@jellirby5015]

Might as well have called this "Wade struggles with windows for 12 minutes"

[@RadikAlice]

"The worst part of this machine is Windows" Wade summarized it all with that one sentence

[@StudioBrock1337]

Facts, no printer. Seriously Windows can’t print to save its life.

[@RadikAlice]

@@StudioBrock1337 For as bad as the Linux daily driver challenge went for Linus Tech Tips, it proved how much of printers "sucking" was Windows's fault

[@arnox4554]

Windows 10 and 11 are such epic trash. At least 8.1 was very salvageable. I've since moved on to MX Linux.

[@RadikAlice]

@@arnox4554 I'll beg to differ. 10 is acceptable, but it did kick off the trend of incessant telemetry Regardless. Glad you found your greener pastures, after much thinking and given the domination of the (good) universal formats, Mint will do me just fine. Even if Wayland support is still experimental

[@StudioBrock1337]

Facts. I legit had to dual-boot Ubuntu just to print stuff on a perfectly good printer that Windows had no drivers for, and HP never made any apparently. Plug it into Linux, boom right there in an instant. I've never installed anything on my Mac or iPhone and I use multiple different printers with them very often without any issue. It's actually kind of incredible how bad Windows is with printers. It's like I did all the programming for it without any assistance or code editing. (Note I suck at programming, and haven't done it in years.)@@RadikAlice

[@asamyers4572]

When I was young and making a Christmas list, I saw a tablet for like $49 in the brochure of the toy store. So I circled it and ended up getting it for Christmas. What a nugget it was. It was branded as a Polaroid and had a TN screen that, even dead on, looked washed out and weirdly bright in certain spots. It had a difficult time running cut the rope and trying to use the browser was hopeless. I also think it had like 4GB of storage. I used it for one day and just chucked it in a box to never use again.

[@faith_6082]

I l've had a table that has 2gb of storage and it was called something like "e-net" what a stupid nugget, the screen was stupidly bad if you looked at it from a different angle you wont see anything and when you click anything it has a "tst" sound it was running ice cream cake android

[@oohshiny8713]

Random companies churning out cheap garbage Android tablets did more for cementing iPads as "the only tablet" than Apple ever could.

[@slightlyevolved]

​@@oohshiny8713And out ONLY saviour being Samsung of all things, but then they muddy it all up with their shit Tab A/E series. The Galaxy Tab S6 Lite though is a steal when on sale for $250 USD. I actually use it and don't want to throw it across the room, even if it isn't the smoothest vs a $400 iPad, but it's half the cost and even comes with the pen.

[@ALittleBitOfGay]

It doesn't help that there are relatively few android apps that support a tablet form factor very well. Hopefully with the Pixel Tablet coming out that'll begin to change. I'd love a tablet again but I'm not willing to go anywhere near apple​@@oohshiny8713

[@DETHMOKIL]

Oh no... iPad baby's are getting nostalgic for Ipads... oldness hault your devilish advance!

[@zoltannyikos7039]

You can buy the cheapest, as long as it's not eMMC. That's what's destroying the usability of these machines, in most of these the storage is worse than a 5400rpm hard drive.

[@sparcie420]

Not to mention those eMMC have s very short lifespan

[@Nor-tc8vz]

Didn't the cheapest Steam Deck during it's launch use eMMC storage?

[@juanarteaga7055]

​@@Nor-tc8vzyep but I didn't see benchmarks of that one

[@heroninja1125]

​@@Nor-tc8vzyep but the EMMC storage was not soldered and you could easily upgrade it to a 1TV SSD. The cheapest steamdeck model existed purely for people that wanted to add in their own drive.

[@urgay1992]

​@@Nor-tc8vzIt's decent, not great or anything but gets the job done and doesn't really hold the console back. There are different performance levels of eMMC storage and the steam deck is probably using something better than the bottom of the barrel stuff that gets shoved in these laptops.

[@BeeWCUEeEe]

This is like asking a baby to do a race against a athlete

[@symphoricquoz3763]

When building a new computer last year, I needed to take it in for maintenance at a nearby Centrecom because something was going wrong and I couldn't figure it out after hours of troubleshooting (it got fixed, thankfully), and I mentioned that I have Windows 10 installed, and would rather not have 11 installed if they could help it. The guys there were so "Yeah, mate, understandable" about it that, despite not selling copies of 10 anymore, having copies of 11 they presumably want sold, and not having my copy of 10 to use for installation, they made sure to get 10 on it when they fixed it. This was only a little bit before the end of last year, too. It's amazing how Windows likes to make their OS' so poorly that the drive to do good for another human being overcomes corporate nickel-diming. I would have settled for it at the time, genuinely, but the guys there just said "nah, mate, he brought it in with a problem, he doe'nt need to take it home with another".

[@the404error7]

The first thing you do when you get a windows machine is immediately get a new web browser. The fact that you can't just uninstall Microsoft Edge is annoying.

[@christianslaughter8724]

Surely you can uninstall edge

[@robokatwave]

Nope@@christianslaughter8724

[@Azuuraas]

@@christianslaughter8724 normally you can't, you have to tinker a lot with the OS to uninstall it

[@poggersman3346]

​@@christianslaughter8724 you can but it's difficult

[@forbiddentictactoe1734]

The first thing you do when you get a windows machine is immediately uninstall it and install a linux distro

[@gonzera908]

I got one of these cheap lenovos for college but with a somewhat decent config The thing that surprised me the most is that it came with a Linux distro that was developed by Lenovo, it seemed pretty ok from the 5 minutes that I used it before installing another distro

[@fluf6833]

Do you remember what the distro was called? Can't find anything online and I'm curious

[@Maxiimus100]

@@fluf6833 from what I recall, they don't specifically make their own, but has multiple options available in the 'Build Your Own' page, with the most prominent ones being Fedora and Ubuntu. It's nice to have a distro up and running out of the box, but to be fair it's something you can DIY fairly easy.

[@gonzera908]

@@fluf6833 It was called Lux. I think it was only available in laptops sold in Brazil since it was part of a partnership between Lenovo and the Brazilian government. It is a pretty standard Debian based distro, with the only cool part being that the GUI was also translated for some languages used by native indigenous tribes.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

Eugh... proprietary Linux, literally the mark of the beast but for Linux community, disgusting,.

[@spicydude1688]

​​@@WelcomeToDERPLANDas much as you hate it its probably still better then win 11

[@elluciano5808]

8:45 Never has a game running so badly gaven me so much joy

[@patexi1289]

that laptop would absolutely be usable with linux

[@vista9434]

Heck, even Win10 would be usable (I have something similar running 10 just fine)

[@TexelGuy]

tiny11 could also be a good choice, but the emmc storage in that Lenovo might be too slow. I installed it on an old 4GB Acer laptop with similar specs as the one in the video (but Intel instead of AMD chipset) and it runs great, but it does have a real SSD that's much faster than emmc.

[@vipperk9958]

Had an idea pad 1100(?) Back in uni. First thing I did was install Linux and it made the experience so much better. Downside was the laptop shat itself on a boot loop and killed the shit flash storage

[@WayStedYou]

​@@vista9434emmc storage has entered the chat

[@betafolf1138]

It would fly with lubuntu. I have that jamed on an n23 chromebook and it soars

[@Yelooh]

this looks (and performs) very similar to the laptop i tried everything to stop my parents from buying. they 'couldn't justify' spending any more on a laptop. they lasted a month with it and then spent £550 on a new one lol

[@generic4581]

i work at a tech store, and we have these (although they're the canadian model), and they're always about $230 cad. i always try to steer people away from buying them because everyone I've sold gets returned for being slow and unreliable.

[@Shalkification]

seriously good advice at the end though, we get people that aren't very tech literate cheap machines and then wonder why they get frustrated and don't bother to learn them, when My nan wanted to get into computers (she was paralysed from the neck down) the speech recognition software at the time required a half decent computer, my nan had a better machine than I did at the time and couldn't understand why people struggled

[@WynterSkies4948]

happiest person setting up a new windows os laptop

[@darkraven1413]

I had one of the older models of this for all 4 years of high school and i can just say it was an absolute nightmare.

[@novvvaly]

This is the laptop my dad got me for my grad lmao. Honestly used to run like crap, but after a car accident and the laptop needing repairs it runs amazingly.

[@OldManPhil]

Tell me the story behind the accident. How you describe it, it makes it seem like no accident.

[@thegrandtemslayr1384]

​@@OldManPhilit got RAM over

[@splashy_official6578]

I had that laptop but there was a 15IN. Screen option. Trust me, I ran Minecraft on that thing and twitch streamed on it! Ended up breaking the screen off the keyboard on one of the hinges after 4 months, and then after a year and 3 months the other side snapped off!! It still works…but the screen is just detached! I hate and love the thing, it was all I had for such a long time

[@Goob_G3]

Mate I feel your pain. We decided to buy the last gen version of this nugget for schools. As someone who had to setup too many of these things over the last month, you're getting an improved experience

[@maksymiliankuznik4856]

Buying a new laptop for this money is a horrible idea. A few months ago for similar money I got a used ThinkPad T480 with 8th gen 4c/8t i5, 16GB of RAM and 1TB of NVMe storage. Not even mentioning much better build quality and port selection lol

[@MetricPolygon]

Can vouch for the thinkpad T series. My T470 is a trooper and was an absolute steal since every once in a while a school or workplace will clean out and sell a whole bunch for cheap

[@uhAlphaFox]

I'm surprised it ran that well while trying to sync the OneDrive junk you DIDN'T ASK TO SYNC onto it. That was probably bogging down the laptop a ton

[@jboby93]

windows 11 i think just sets up onedrive automatically once you set it up with an MS account. i had it happen on a client's computer at least once. super frustrating

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@jboby93 Wait a sec, so win11 doesnt even give you an option to not run their crap? I knew that newer versions were worse (tho win10 is bearable, but i only use it cause by some reason dx12 doesnt work on win8, i wonder why 🤔), but no thanks, maybe linux is an option after all. Will try it out when microsoft tries this garbage again.

[@MandrakeGuy]

⁠​⁠yep, i had to get windows 11 recently and- for context, i make music, and in order to make my music i need to have audio files... onedrive syncd audio files 💀 so a few days in my FL studio save files were opening with an error that audio files were missing. windows 11 would have been perfectly fine for my experience if it didnt do shit without your permission while technically doing it with your permission

[@hankagura5355]

@@MandrakeGuySwitch to Mac with macOS you wont run into any unnecessary or greedy problems that Microsoft can bless you with. Especially for making music I can imagine how much better a Mac would be.

[@ilhambahniar2892]

"Oh same brand as mine" "Oh shit its mine exactly mine"

[@bitwolfy]

Learned this pro tip from my time as a technician. Entering "user" or "admin" as your Microsoft account name with a random keysmash for a password unlocks the ability to create a local offline account.

[@w1th3rm4n]

ayy that's some interesting tip, ty

[@Big_Chungus96]

The fact windows 11 went with the chromebook layout for their home screen sends me into a blind rage. That should be illegal.

[@polpolpol3284]

those benchmarks of the laptop look like full-fledged powerpoint presentations

[@lithiumeater100]

A lot of it is more of a windows being bloated and unoptimized than the hardware being really shitty. It would probably be a decent laptop if it had Linux running on it

[@latexbeep]

One thing that's really fun about Lenovo (and other companies like dell and HP) is that they have really small hinges for their 17-inch laptops which definitely doesn't create a lot of stress and causes the brittle plastic to easily just by using the laptop

[@snail4483]

yeah ive had an ideapad 3 for about a year and the hinge is almost completely broken :( I cant close it anymore

[@ellebows]

my 2-1 hp pavilion cracked on the screen multiple times because of the stupid hinges

[@jatt-jatt-jatt3181]

i had ideapad 1 15 inch the hinge broke in 4 months, the laptop shut down and had to be sent to lenovo in 2 months, after the hinge broke the laptop randomly died one morning in 6 months. amd is complete ass

[@MrEmiriv]

I make a living repairing hinges from EVERY laptop brand (except apple), they are all crap, even in gaming not cheap models

[@dms110D]

This laptop was just impressive in all the worst ways, dear goodness

[@icelmao.]

and somehow it would be stonger than any windows machine in my house💀

[@Sxmmy247]

bro same lmaoo @@icelmao.

[@TheUwaisPatel]

Man years ago I worked at Currys in the UK and one of the services they sold was setting up your pc for you, so its ready straight away. Basically just installing office and some antivirus. These laptops were so insanely slow from the start, I felt sorry for anyone that bought these things.

[@IlIlIlIlIllIllII]

I had an old version of the Ideapad as a cheap laptop to carry to class in college while my beefy computer stayed home and it was truly the most awful computer I ever used. It had an APU, 8Gb to ram, and like a 5400 hard drive that took ages to boot and open any apps. Eventually put a cheap ssd in it and gifted it to an older family member. The SSD made a huge difference in making it tolerable to use.

[@filifeck9172]

4GB RAM and Athlon CPU isn't the problem here. It's the Windows 11. With Linux, it would be a pretty nice useable PC for browsing the web and doing some light office work, maybe even some indie or retro gaming...

[@ffnbbq]

Athlons are sub-basement ultra budget for AMD, though.

[@darjanator]

It isn't. Even linux would struggle on a device with eMMC storage. It's just a soldered on SD card. THAT's the bottleneck.

[@filifeck9172]

Athlon 3000G was quite good for what it was. I've seen people running games like Doom Eternal on it with a playable frame rate. I don't know what Athlon this laptop has, but surely without Windows it wouldn't perform bad...

[@filifeck9172]

In that case, it should've been a Chromebook instead

[@potatoes5829]

@@darjanator my laptop has emmc and its not bad in linux. boots in 15s, firefox opens in about 2s, then overheats because it has no fan

[@Plainapple287]

i used to work for a computer company where I live, and part of our “computer setup” was just taking machines like this out of S mode, thanks microsoft.

[@Razoredge]

I swear, the benchmarks running better than the ACTUAL OS on this thing is a sight I've never thought I would see. Thanks, Lenovo. Thank you for that.

[@aleksazunjic9672]

It is not Lenovo, it is Microsoft .

[@Razoredge]

@@aleksazunjic9672 Of course Microsoft did a pathetic job with the OS, anything above 7 is hot garbage, Vista was hot garbage, only 95-98-XP-maybe 7 were actually good. But Lenovo did a pathetic job with the overall optimization of that computer.

[@matiasaguilar2500]

This was my experience during my first two years of Uni, absolutely miserable

[@implozia1360]

That 3DMark achivement I did not expect. That was an absolute highlight of my day.

[@thecursed01]

with laptops like this, 3dmark not just showing a video of a guy laughing and pointing at you already counts as success XD

[@Aurum4137]

Thanks for reviewing the computer I actively use (for college and some gaming) glad to be represented as a proud nugget holder

[@coltrv]

What gaming??

[@Shhimhiding]

@@coltrvminesweeper and solitaire 😂

[@Aurum4137]

@@coltrv TF2 and pokemon fan games

[@Aurum4137]

@@Shhimhiding nah that's to powerful for me

[@cherry414]

​​​@@coltrv You can play early 2010 games or indie games. They rock though

[@BlueSodaPop_]

As someone who has had to make due with the cheapest of the cheapest because my family just didn't have much - you need a lot of patience for these nuggets. No clicking twice, no closing tabs a few seconds after they're still not loaded. One step too far ahead and the whole thing goes down. It's a massive pain, but really better than nothing, at the end of the day.

[@anthonymuccillo]

Honestly, you'd be 250 dollars poorer and still couldn't use it for anything very useful lol this thing has specs of a midrange android phone. Not having a computer is miles better than owning nearly unusable ewaste, I get your sentiment, as I was there growing up with a 1999 ibm thinkpad well into the 2010s, and honestly even with bonzi buddy on that old brute, it ran miles smoother than this Lenovo turd.

[@harshlarose6670]

With these I'd rather get a chromebook. If it was upgradeable I would say swap out the storage as soon as possible but these machines don't even support that.

[@BlueSodaPop_]

@@anthonymuccillo when you don't have much you don't care that it's slow, you're just happy you have anything at all. Kids don't know anything about specs and low-end and when your parents save up a lot of money (to them) to get you something, you're not going to complain that it's slow. Yeah, realistically that laptop really really sucks. It's not worth the money and probably reaching into scam territory. But I still have a bit of sympathy for these nuggets.

[@WyvernDotRed]

When Windows runs *that* poorly, there isn't much to loose with installing Linux. Back when I got fed up with my school iPad, I dug up an old Core2 Duo laptop, installed a light Linux distro on it as it didn't handle Windows 7 well. And this ran quite well, along with forcing me to get accustomed to the different OS as it was the only thing it ran well that was still useful. Since I have fully moved to Linux, it takes more random fixing of small things but this is much easier to do than on Windows. On more powerful machines, as long as you aren't playing rootkit anti-cheat ridden multiplayer games, pretty much anything just works now.

[@fantasypvp]

@@anthonymuccillo 2007 era thinkpads will still run linux perfectly fine now and are actually somewhat usable if you just want to write documents and browse websites

[@JordanManfrey]

I have this exact laptop, I stuck 16gb of ram in it (total is 20GB since 4gb are soldered on) and a 512GB NVME (the 128GB one it came with was actually a pretty nice NVME as well) - the only reason this thing works at all is because the NVME it comes with is fast and acts as swap space. If you take out that bottleneck this thing honestly flies. I'm not kidding, even just 1 extra 4GB ram stick in there makes a night and day difference with this thing. I'm watching this video on that laptop, hooked up to my TV at 4k@60hz, watching this video at 4k quality, while I have another browser instance open on the built-in 1080p display, with zero frame drops or stuttering. I can play Like A Dragon: Infinite Wealth on it at 30 fps at acceptable quality (partially thanks to the fact it has Intel Xe graphics architecture and supports AI upscaling stuff well). Parts-bin laptops are almost *always* easy to open, repair, and upgrade because it's intertwined with the way they're built/SKU-ed out. Don't buy a fucking bespoke gaming laptop or some shit where they laminate the thing together with wacky glue. Trash engineering tbqh

[@matttheshadowman2790]

I wonder how well this would run if you removed Windows on this and used Linux, might be a good experiment to do

[@zoeyaaahmed203]

@notanetcher[CITATION NEEDED]

[@7GrandDadsHere]

@notanetcher [CITATION NEEDED]

[@feefre]

That thing has a soldered sd card as hard drive, it will choke even on linux

[@chitan1362]

@@feefre I've actually used linux on eMMC storage before. It's not that bad as long as you go with something lightweight.

[@Connie_TinuityError]

@notanetcher [CITATION NEEDED]

[@christiancasaverdepertica1802]

I used to work at a computer repair shop, and sometimes we would get people who wanted help setting up a new PC. We ended up finding a hidden setting that is completely functional but inaccessible to not sign in to one drive and all that

[@Yoshi-rq9xi]

Please share this wisdom

[@ashfaw]

​@@Yoshi-rq9xijust search it. It uses command prompt (cmd)to do this if i remember correctly

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

@@Yoshi-rq9xiShift+F10

[@qjesse]

Yeah Microsoft really fights to force you to use a Msft account for Windows 11 Home. There’s a workaround, but requires you to get off the internet, open a command prompt, force a bypass command, and then it’ll finally let you continue with setting up a local account. A smoother experience with Windows 11 Pro for sure

[@qjesse]

alternatively you could also create a local account after setting up on a Microsoft account. Makes you wonder why they don’t give you the option in the first place… (the answer is data harvesting on their most popular edition of Windows)

[@coolrift8934]

I would love to see a follow-up to the laptop, squeezing out every performance from it (debloating, reducing effect, etc)

[@WndSks]

At 5:09 you can see the name McAfee, step 1 right there.

[@coltrv]

Do you have any good resources for improving a laptop? I too have a crappy nugget laptop and I would like to know more about “debloating”

[@coolrift8934]

@@coltrv you could start with close unused software that runs in background and disable them in startup, keeping driver up-to-date and reduce windows visual effects

[@coolrift8934]

And as for debloating, there are plenty of software in youtube, I used Chris Titus Tech debloater to remove windows apps and use a preset that disables some windows service, it also double as a software installer after freshly installed windows

[@theairaccumulator7144]

I'm afraid that he's too dumb for this... he only knows how to shill apple and make really bad "reviews" for audio gear

[@rexarn781]

The fact that they STILL sell these stupidly slow machines BRAND NEW scares me so much... like.. it's ready for the trash before it is even out of the box.

[@junko4166]

Incredible. They took a perfectly usable Athlon and bashed both of it's kneecaps with single channel RAM to save like 5 entire dollars.

[@Aarlog]

Don't forget the eMMC storage too, once they were through with the kneecaps they went in to smash its shoulders to bits by gluing what is effectively a micro SD card to the board for a boot drive.

[@JustARegularNerd]

And then left it to finally drag a 50kg sack of potatoes, I.e Windows 11

[@niamhturner1451]

i actually got scammed by an older model of this laptop with the same processor, i was so close to getting a second-hand elitebook (i've had good experiences with HP on their pro and elite books) but i decided on a refurb version of this because the specs seemed better when i looked into them. it was so slow that i just about could do zoom on it, if i needed to do even just one firefox window at the same time everything would stall. The screen just destroyed itself in less than a year, thanks Lenovo, £200 gone

[@Thanatos2996]

I have the i3 version of this with an 8G DIMM. It set me back around $150 US, and screen aside it’s not half bad running Linux. I upgraded the SSD to a 1TB, and the i3 is plenty when you’re running an operating system that doesn’t suck. I just needed something with a battery that wasn’t dead, and it’s perfect for that.

[@awesomeferret]

And to think that I got a used ThinkPad Carbon X1 with an i7 and a 1440p touchscreen about a year ago for the exact same price... Please, buy a used business laptop instead.

[@Thanatos2996]

@@awesomeferret used business laptops are terrible if you want a good battery, which was the main thing I was after. My work laptop is a much nicer machine, but I doubt it would make it an hour if I unplugged it from the wall.

[@awesomeferret]

@@Thanatos2996 I get 2-4 hours with my X1 Carbon from 2014. That's more than enough for me, and is better than some gaming laptops.

[@joelmurdoch]

It doesn't matter what your machine is, you'll find a Linux OS that will run it!

[@kaikaiju]

Two of my classmates have that exact same PC and can confirm, the case is the most brittle thing to ever exist. Whole back of it is cracked and exposing the circuitry LMAO

[@trashtrash2169]

Must be some weak alloy or really thin aluminum with no support.

[@lethalinflection]

@@trashtrash2169 It's very fragile plastic. I bought my parents two relatively decent Lenovos in 2021. The first thing I did was put a deep scratch into the back panel trying to remove the screws. By 2023, both of the screens had broken off & separated from the chassis (panels were not reinforced & the hinge was stiffer than the plastic could handle). Now, they're just headless laptops sitting in a pile

[@SnickerEater836]

@@trashtrash2169 It would've been better to use cardboard at that point.

[@Ermwhattheflip6934]

my nugget tier laptop from 2019 still outperforms the one in this video