The CHEAPEST new motherboard AND CPU in the world! Can it game?

[@americathefree3708]

This is my new Hobie! I enjoy it very much! I like your channel, you have fun and that's all men need is an accomplishment once in a while.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

I appreciate that, thank you!

[@zellar1]

Awesome, this is one of the best OLD SKOOL assembly videos ever!! I have been refurbing old PC's to gaming glory for years!! Talking about your wife and how JANKY that table is reminds me when I first started out. I was picking up PC's and laptops from the eWaste bins and from the side of the road. Live on and prosper!! DUDE!

[@vladimirryder5195]

I’ve just come across this channel and it’s perfect for grabbing a beer and relaxing. I’m constantly trying to get the best out of old hardware for project. Great vid pal

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

6:58 When did they switch the thread of the screws? It's been more than a little while since I built a system from scratch. I've been upgrading ex-office PCs (RAM, SSD, GPU). I hadn't noticed they switched it up.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Somewhere around the early 2010s I believe

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@LowSpecActionSquad oh, well, maybe I just didn't notice. Very likely.

[@neongenesis2979]

The APU in this motherboard is the A4-6210. A 4 core 4 thread 1.8 GHz clock with 2mb of L2 cache released in 2014. This was the time when Intel released their Haswell i7-4790K and AMD had the FX-6300... but for 19 bucks it's an awesome little guy.

[@thedungeondelver]

Yeah, it's about half the cost of an OEM dell 3020 motherboard and Haswell based Xeon (each run about $20, and you'd still need the ATX power supply adapter, CPU cooling fan adapter, and front panel button adapters, so you'd be all in for about $55-$60).

[@marticissparticus]

2mb of cahce lol does it even have l3 cahce

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

@@marticissparticus I don't think so lol, but I don't know for sure

[@marticissparticus]

@LowSpecActionSquad haha i thought that

[@josephdias5859]

@@marticissparticus not at all none of amd apus had l3 cache at the time

[@TheTuneAce]

I've come to love the mantra "nothing is more permanent than a temporary fix that hasn't broken"

[@mattelder1971]

I just picked up an HP tower the other day at a thrift store that uses a similar ITX board and an AMD A4-5000. This one uses an external power supply like a laptop, doesn't have any slots, and has 2 standard desktop DIMM slots. I got the whole system for $15 with a 500GB hard drive and 4GB of RAM.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Not bad at all!

[@cecilb7927]

Some other good models for donor cases for this type of build are the Dell Inspiron 530, I bought one in 2006 and it was my main PC for several years, in the time I owned it I added a GPU of some sort (was a long time ago) and at a later point had to replace the PSU, it used a standard IO shield hole in the back. I thought they were really nice looking in silver and white. The slightly older Compaq retail cases that were black with silver were 100% upgradeable as well, I bought one new at Walmart for about $300 that came with a Monitor, I immediately added RAM, and eventually a GPU. Over time I had to replace the PSU and motherboard, and had no issues at all with standard parts, even the front panel connectors worked right. As for the oddball motherboards with laptop CPUs, there are a bunch of interesting variations on Aliexpress for really cheap. HP and Dell have been selling low end desktops with soldered laptop CPUs and memory for years. Nothing worse than buying an inexpensive potatoe and finding out you cant upgrade it, even the PSUs are modified laptop designs. Most of them do not have any Pcie slots on board, just SATA and often a m.2 pcie slot for wifi.

[@frankiebegbie]

This reminds me soooo much of dumpster diving at my work (a research institute in Scotland) through late ‘90s Dell landfill to Frankenstein a PC for my poor arse to have at home. Now I can have the same janky pile of sludge with BRAND NEW parts! I’m hooked 😂 ❤ .

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

3:44 what's a REVERSE sleeper? I know what a sleeper is... but REVERSE? Ummm... what, you think it's going to be better than it actually is? But with a Dell Pentium 4 era case, I don't think your expectations are going to be super high in the first place. And that case is cavernous considering the board you're putting in it!

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

I mis-spoke in the video lol, a reverse sleeper is old hardware in a new case. Although, this thing is so slow that I suppose you could consider it a reverse sleeper because it's a sleeper build (new hardware in old case) but isn't any faster than the original hardware :P

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@LowSpecActionSquad IDK, come to think of it, it should be faster than a P4 so, maybe your term is apt.

[@rcairo2595]

I think a handful of these in a Lan setup for playing Quake 2, 3, Unreal, MOHAA, CODUO, and etc. would work great. I know we had 3 Asus laptops with the same specs and we had a heck of a great time on the back patio playing older games on them. Fun stuff!

[@ArifGhostwriter]

Bless you & your Wife. She's doing well to have a husband who's into a cool hobby & comes across as a nice guy, & you're doing well to have her in your life to roll her eyes at you every now & then!

[@michaellegg9381]

Ya $60 in on this PC! That's $80 to much!! The seller should be paying you to take their Chinese tofu dreg PC components.

[@Dragemesteren]

Instead of running old windows, that is not getting updated anymore, i would highly recommend choosing a lightweight Llinus Distro instead!

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Although I agree when using the system for general use, if you were to use this as a modern swap-in replacement for a vintage system used for vintage games, I'd have to say that using a modern OS kind of defeats the purpose lol. Again, if you were going to build a PC to use as a general PC, absolutely. But if you are building an offline PC just to play old games, then using an old OS is kind of par for the course

[@SeeJayPlayGames]

@@LowSpecActionSquad I kind of agree and don't. While I agree that Linux is the way forward and for general use, and Windows is easier for vintage gaming, there's some benefit to using something like Lutris for a centralized launcher that can launch not only WINE but DOSBox, GOG, and Steam games, as well as other launchers, for the ultimate in flexibility and selection. It's not so great for Epic (Heroic is better for that, and can also handle GOG and Amazon). I don't know if Windows has anything equivalent - I doubt it. That being said, it can be a little tricky to get games configured on it properly, while Windows is usually quite straightforward, as the games are made for it. But it's pretty cool when you do get things set up correctly on Lutris. I don't know if I would do such a thing on a weak CPU like this, an old AMD quad core limited to 8GB of RAM... maybe on a light Linux distro, like Lubuntu or something, because we want to have RAM enough to run the games with. Or if you want to boot straight into EmulationStation there's also Batocera, although I'm not sure how the Windows game support is for that. I think that's mostly geared more towards MAME and console emulators than Windows (though I haven't really tinkered with it much).

[@TheTrulyInsane]

Great information and such, would be nice to include a little information as to where it came from, other than 'a certain website'

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

The last time I mentioned AliExpress, the video mysteriously tanked in views, so I'm being careful lol. My Halloween special has like 300 views on it, compared to the usual 1.5 to 3k

[@FroggyTWrite]

what was the name of the seller? curious what other types of mash up boards they sell

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

@@FroggyTWrite SZ Motherboard Store! I think I may have gotten this motherboard on sale, as it is now listed at $21

[@ShrineOfLife]

thats so chill :) i love our hobbie, and yeah, too much computer stuff and too little space, a common problem these days, right :D

[@patricktrakzel9657]

Makes a nice and silent fileserver. Nice video mate.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

@@patricktrakzel9657 I've actually got a video coming out on that exact topic, using this exact board. Unfortunately, you cannot turn off secure boot, which means many versions of Linux will have problems installing

[@patricktrakzel9657]

@@LowSpecActionSquad As the drivers sre inside the kernel you can install Linux on an ssd in another system. Then use that ssd with this board. I don't know if that would work with e.g. Proxmox though.

[@paullindsay7790]

should use Fraps on XP for screen recording.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

I'll give that a shot, thanks!

[@takerhay2197]

that wifi slot looks like the same slot on my latitude e7250 for the nvme ssd idk if thats a nvme slot but its defintly for a ssd just cant rember the exact name for the ssd

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

You might be thinking of mSATA

[@takerhay2197]

@ thats the one

[@Theutmostgeek]

got a similar board in a packard bell machine. Im suprised it was that cheap lol.

[@AvWijk85]

Maybe an USA only deal like always. Cheapest motherboard in that store with free shipping is till € 36 (for an FM2 socket.. LOL)

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Europe always seems to get the bad end of the stick, I'm not sure why

[@rmcdudmk212]

Not a bad system for the price. An APU isnt a bad way to go with a system like this but the fact you had a cheap gpu to throw in makes its a little bit sweeter.

[@kevinsharp-kn7rm]

I've been given an old Dell with a Q6600 quad core. Had a small SSD for ops system. Surprised how capable it is ❤

[@paalpet]

I believe you would not get dual channel even with a second slot here. Had a laptop with different CPU (i think it was A6) from same gen and did not get dual channel with 2 sticks. Seems support is missing.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

I didn't know that, thanks for pointing that out! Still, for $19 I'm happy lol

[@OverTallman]

I've had two mini-ITX builds with Athon 5150 and A4-5000 before, and yeah those small core "Wildcat" APUs never had dual channel memory support, maybe except the XB1 or PS4 chips.

[@danthompsett2894]

ahhhh dude those cheap red sata cables are like sata 1 rated personally i would use that on the dvd drive and the black one on the ssd drive.

[@peterilling1627]

Awesome video thanks for sharing.

[@TooMuchTech0]

should i take the i7 4470 or ryzen 3 3200g for gaming with GTX 1060

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Definitely the Ryzen, no contest. Not only is the 3200g of a similar performance to an i7 4770, but you can upgrade later down the line to a better AM4 CPU. The i7 4770 does not have much of an upgrade path

[@marticissparticus]

that little guy is so cute i love old computers so much

[@evionlast]

There's a pattern on the video maybe it can be corrected by playing with the camera settings or a better light source

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

@@evionlast better light source, this room has LED lighting that my camera doesn't like lol

[@evionlast]

@LowSpecActionSquad you may avoid buying expensive lamps by repositioning your light source in different angles place white paper over the walls to reflect the light source and cover your table with a self healing mat, (don't go too far it's a low spec channel charm), good work keep having fun!

[@magomedmakhmudov2945]

Ты до сих пор в этой кепке ходишь😂. Ты в натуре легенда 🦅

[@aleksanderhr.fredro8407]

"Reverse sleeper" damn... :D

[@kevinsharp-kn7rm]

The single channel memory is killing this system 😢

[@mustasheolll2020]

Windows 10 with that case almost feels…Wrong. Not in a bad way either, but the clash is so interesting.

[@jeffbrl]

I enjoyed the content. The load times in Win10 is pretty concerning (XP would suit this pretty nicely for older titles if you want a low end gaming PC). You didn't mention the power draw at idle which is probably more relevant for NAS or firewall. Perhaps in your NAS follow up.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

I forgot to record it, but I believe the entire system drew around 10 watts at idle

[@zopeck]

Hi! Thanks for another great video! Wonder if it would be possible to install linux on it, and then use something like steam with proton in order to play your games. May be it works. Best regards, cheers and keep it up!

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

In one of my recent videos I turned it into a NAS, where I discovered the board does not have a way to disable secure boot, which can cause issues when trying to boot certain flavors of Linux D:

[@T3chIdiot]

i was actually looking into this exact motherboard for building a NAS! crazy how the internet works

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Word of warning! I'm actually building a NAS using it right at this moment, and having a TON of issues. This board doesn't let you fully turn off secure boot, which means a lot of NAS operating systems won't install. FreeNAS, TrueNAS, XigmaNAS, Rockstor, none of those work. Openmediavault works though, and I'm at attempt number three to record this video without something crazy happening lol. I wouldn't expect video to release until mid-December, but since you said you were looking at it for a NAS I figured I'd at least let you know lol

[@T3chIdiot]

@ LowSpecActionSquad Oh alright I found a similar board on eBay that has a slower chip and dual channel ram I’ll probably be getting instead. It’s some coin mine a8-4555m board

[@ThatOneSarv]

Oh this is so relateable thats basicaly me when i play around with my hardware to build whatever i can out of stuffi get cheap of ebay xD

[@heyarno]

Nice upgrade over the original P4 that the sticker on the case claims.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Honestly a good little system. I am filming a NAS build with this motherboard, and the ONLY real problem is the inability to turn off Secure Boot, which means this board cannot run a lot of Linux distros

[@heyarno]

@@LowSpecActionSquad That's annoying. I assume there are no bios updates available anymore either?

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

@@heyarno I don't think so, hard to find specific details on this board

[@aticoco]

Where did you buy this?

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

@@aticoco AliExpress, I just searched "ITX" and sorted by cheapest. I think the price is up to about $21 now

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

The last time I mentioned AliExpress in a video, it got dumped hard by the algorithm, I didn't want to mention it in this video just in case it got dumped again

[@ArifGhostwriter]

🇬🇧 👍🏽 November 2024 'Reverse-sleeper' - lol! 'Crappier in performance than the outside would suggest'.

[@cosminmilitaru9920]

Bro, I am not sure about the situation in your country, but are you sure you could not have gotten for $30 an entire PC with an Intel Xeon workstation with ECC ram +- ssd, gpu, so full-pc with 4-6 cores that is 12 times more powerful than this A4-6210weaksauce?

[@cosminmilitaru9920]

Case would have been sooo much better, PSU also. Those Patriot SSDs keep burning-out in my experience, same with many no-names / cheap brands + ADATA SU630 and SU650 that kept overheating and also giving up very fast. Now I use from Kingston/Crucial up to drives with actual DRAM cache depending on the budget of the build.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

@@cosminmilitaru9920 The point was the cheapest NEW motherboard and CPU lol, but yeah, those old used Xeon builds are super great value. I'm actually doing a Xeon E5-1240 v2 build soon

[@dave-bennett]

15 fps - probably worth spending another $15 for the upgrade gpu

[@magomedmakhmudov2945]

Ты че за гигант брат 💪 просто компьютенатор 🤖

[@StanisawSwierczynski]

file server builder show

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Working on it lol, having weird issues getting TrueNAS working. Might have to jump back in time for FreeNAS, or switch to XigmaNAS

[@AaronRczheski]

i think i almost bought this lol.. upgraded my gpu and now have a 12gb 3060 with no computer to install it in,, wanna buy some odd motherboard like this and install it! 🤣

[@magomedmakhmudov2945]

А порнуха запустится на этом компьютере?

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

I guarantee you someone has used something like this for secret "adult" content consumption lol Low power, small, quiet, it's perfect for the hidden PC under the bed lol

[@JoeBleaux69]

Too expensive

[@johnpaulbacon8320]

Nice videdo :)

[@pandatrailer]

got mine motherboard new for 4$

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

That's a heck of a deal, you should film it

[@berbum4530]

noice!

[@usmcp]

My brother in Christ, focus on the subject and don't include the down time and bloopers 😂 You had me at the $20 modt mitx mobo, but the entire build portion could have been removed. Link to the motherboard?

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Unfortunately, that's kind of the whole point of my channel lol, thanks for the feedback though! Here's the link, the price seems to fluctuate between $18 and $23 a.aliexpress.com/_msCdWEn

[@cesaru3619]

GJ WHIPPY! AMD SUX

[@pjcnet]

Pretty naff, but amazing for the money.

[@chinchinwan5254]

Cannot accept windows XP in 2024

[@Taxelol]

oh yea...first

[@yoppindia]

A4 is a terrible cpu, even when it was brand new.

[@LowSpecActionSquad]

Absolutely agreed, but it does have it's place. At 15 watts, this one is perfect for a different type of computer, one that doesn't have to run a bunch of heavy programs or anything like that. Once the parts arrive in the mail, I'll be using this motherboard to build a NAS, which this board is actually pretty good for! Low power usage is huge for something that sits idle for 99% of it's life

[@manishgautam2424]

i willl give you 20 give this to me