The CheaterKwad!

According to the rules of FPV, having a rear facing camera is CHEATING, apparently. So today we experiment with cheating!
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Thanks to DividingByZero FPV for inspiring us to try this!
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Joshua Bardwell [Knowitall]
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Drew Camden [Le Drib]
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Jeff Orta [VORT3X]
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Alex Vanover [CaptainVanover]
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[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

Had to wait to watch this video during my lunch break. Thank you guys for the mention and showing some of the flight clips.

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

Wondering if Vortex will take it to a 3D build. #CheaterKwad is growing and I cannot wait to see what pilots with more skill than me are able to pull off.

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

Wish I got to be there with all my builds. My 5s 6in can rip. Latest video "CheaterKwad F#*! YEAH!" Is a practice session trying new transitions.

[@David__]

Nice work DBZ! Thanks for exploring new horizons :)

[@OpaFPV]

Great explanations and so much fun to watch how quickly you all adapted!

[@teobareaesteban7234]

Amazing!!! Thank you for do stuff like this. The FPV is growing!!!!

[@LeDribFPV]

🔥🔥🔥

[@JDCFPV]

Should be called the Zero Gravity Vanover spin. He did it first. Nice job guys!

[@D4N13Lfpv]

An improvement to freestyle! I enjoyed too much with the final footage, a really good step forward. There's no stop, makes me wonder how's gonna be like in a yeaar or two from now... guys, I loved it! keep it up!!

[@filiped7298]

This so awesome. I know why you guys keep Vanover around. Great pilot!

[@aoutivd]

Really fascinating trial and error guys. Seriously, that was entertaining watching you guys figure this stuff out.

[@FlyingPenguinDrones]

"DON'T FORGET THE F*CKING BELL!" holy shit Drew you just made me burst out laughing at 2am bahahaha

[@Leechasefpv]

Cheers guys, looks like a fun thing to try. Definitely going to try this!

[@goballistik1]

This is no longer simply-complex flight...its increased the axis capable movement and I appreciate that ALOT!....that all looked so incredible!

[@TheCatsa]

This will be the standard in 6 months. Tricks will harder to authenticate and respect. Thanks a lot Dividingbyzero FPV. Thanks Rotor Riot for shedding light on this. My technology budget unfortunately is still on 4S. Thanks! You guys are fun to watch.

[@David__]

Thanks for sharing... Alex certainly found the flow of this very well. Thanks for sharing :)

[@pitchitfpv]

The Music takes me back and makes me feel like a Kwad Fairy or a Ghost.

[@MountaineerFPV]

4yrs later, why is this not on the market yet?? Lets gooooooo!

[@ifpo238]

I want to see what Skitzo can do with this.

[@rubenvaneupen7327]

Sickest thing I have seen in FPV this year!

[@rustymarshall1560]

The knife edge tree gap at 9 minutes and 10 seconds when switching cams in the middle was great. Very hard to tell if it was a great save or a cheating cam switch, lol. Great job, low GoPro tilt made a world of difference

[@iflyfpv5927]

Ty so much for the “Cheater Quad”... as soon as I get it up in the air I will send you the video. 😎👍💯

[@jlarson42]

That was slick. Thanks for showing your practice runs and explanation of what's going on. ♥ :-)

[@Wicket_78]

might have to build one. seems like a new fun twist on things. got to keep the interest level up!

[@rmdcade1717]

I hope that this frontier gets taken up and refined by more pilots. It's fascinating stuff. Props to DBZ for pioneering.

[@RyanBlaze]

Drew& Vani.. you guys had some awesome footage at the end! Very Nicely done. Sick episode!

[@LeslieWorks]

daaaang that was cool. so exciting to see new things happening in flight. i mean 3d hasn't even really become mainstream and we're doing things like this, now if only there were a way to switch the camera not only back and front but upright and upside down, for when you transition to 3d. some very strange things could happen lol

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

You miiiiiiiight want to check that #CheaterKwad i can confirm two people are uploading footage of 3D CheaterKwads. Myself and Bobeshoz. I know of 3 builds in existence. #CheaterKwad on instagram is starting to grow.

[@imadmorsli2871]

oh hey. its you again. thanks for the help on how to get started and what gear matters/ more money should be spent on on the rotor riot fan club on fb. what a coincidence!

[@moonmanmigz]

This cheater quad is so amazing. I would totally build one if I had the money to do so. Amazing video guys and thanks for sharing.

[@team01shakenbake]

I have to build one of these now, thinking of using a 7 inch frame though to give more room for components.

[@jeremyhenion8231]

my first quad i ever built was this, on a chameleon, with a simple av switchboard and the mixing compliments of either pain360 or blue falcon i believe. crazy thing is i have yet to fly it. my maiden was los on my front lawn, never set rates, went to check a flip and only 180d straight into concrete. next flight after thinking i fixed it 2 esc's fireballed on first takeoff. i have restricted my self to whoops or 3" since 2016 lol it still sits on my desk to hopefully inspire some other crazy ideas before you guys think of them

[@FPVBart]

Drew have a special gift I guess... Its called "The gift to destroy the things that don't belongs to him"

[@glawfpv9112]

Great video. Best episode in ages 😊

[@giorgio4628]

I have built a quad with a sp racing f3 and a flysky receiver. I ve a issue with the throttle response: when I arm, motors begin spinning at the minthrottle (that s correct) but, as soon as I raise and lower the stick throttle, it doesn't respond Everything looks ok because, in the receiver section, when I raise the throttle, it respond correctly... I ve also manual control of the motors and I am not in turtle mode... could you help me with this issue?

[@acac3734]

Using the Nirvana Dark Night for the switch shots! Love that unit. I can appreciate the Flysky Love!!! LOL

[@bobby242e]

Dude this is Awesome!!

[@t5_adventure]

wicked cant wait to see where this ends up going!

[@VdubSPAZ]

Pulling this off around some very large tall buildings it would definitely show some of the effects of like backwards flying or doing some rotating around things in reverse would give you a fact that's different or when doing a dive on a building

[@windrider23]

Using a momentary switch for the camera is good. But different color props front and back will also help.

[@briancarson1859]

So cool you guys having way to much fun lol

[@caiosamburgo547]

Could you mix the camera aux with the yaw, roll and pitch controller input, inverting them whenever aux is activated?

[@eternalprogression]

Ummagawd needs to redo his Chernobyl dive with this that would be amazing

[@rickwilkinson1651]

This is going to make building dives look epic

[@anthonyradisich8919]

i think this broke my brain, it's first time i've ever had motion sickness watching an FPV video!

[@ninjamonkeyfpv8855]

Buuuff.. Great video guys.. Nice freestyle rap at the end..

[@LOVE-of8iw]

THIS is what I wanted to see. Thank you!

[@jittersfpv6872]

What antennas are you guys running? I see a bunch of stubby's but then a mix of others....trying to find the workable middle of what to use and this video has given me some ideas. Would just like a little more info if you could please and thank you !!!

[@KaossFPV]

whaha the beatboxing at the end cracked me up XD got to give you a lesson some day Drib ;)

[@yawmanflights7171]

How do you guys like the nirvana? I see that's what you are using. I use x-lite s and was looking at the nirvana just wondering

[@tylerapperley6239]

Can you set it so the switching happens when the accelerometer senses you’re going backwards

[@michaelmatthews6421]

This, combined with 3D should be awesome, gotta go check out DividingByZero's page now. Great job guys, looks like it could be fun

[@feldrik]

Nice what were the tilts of two fpv cam? Backward cam should be lower, isn't it?

[@crispinodell519]

You guys should try the cheater quad and put the 360-degree camera on it and see what that's all about. Great video guys.

[@metalfox1911a1]

Do you guys have pre flashed plug-and-play boards for an X Style quadcopter

[@andrewzaborowski9685]

Ohhhh ohh oh. Fond memories of PlayUAV Osd -- that's an independent OSD from the time before OSDs were integrated into the FC and it had two camera inputs, so I'd use one for the fpv cam and the other for the Gopro-clone-on-a-gimbal tv output. It's still a badass OSD, really recommended, much better than all the minimosd derived current OSDs. It can draw graphics like maps, radar screen type of thing and what not, imagine running through a quad racing circuit and seeing where you are on the circuit like in the old car racing video games.

[@PNWDroneGuy]

Awesome stuff!

[@randombadgerfpv6558]

Ok... Got my two cameras soldered to the board.. What UART does the Flux Capacitor get wired to???

[@ArtimusPrime]

so sick. Now I want to build one....

[@johnnyboyfpv6065]

Now you gotta try Cheaterkwad moves with a normal quad. Test pilots memory and knowledge of how their quad flies.

[@taterchipfpv9162]

OH MAN, I have got to build one of these!!!!!

[@glenby2u]

use that for the cyclonic thing where you spin around the pole looking up - but with gopro facing down. nice work.

[@MrSmithFPV]

Really great idea 👍

[@fpvclub7256]

I'm a fan!.. Some really nice moves..

[@davidmarkwood7314]

looks cool might set one up and have a play

[@GrisDismation]

Okay! This is rad!

[@DesignRobot_co]

when you switch the camera does the FC also switch and your forward on your transmitter still the same or you have to fly it with reverse on transmitter in mind?

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

Always as if you are flying normal and forwards... hence cheating. When you switch from front to back it is also inverting your pitch and roll on your controller. So basically you are just remapping what is the new "front" for the drone. But the gopro perspective is now totally different. Works for 3D and using 3Cams as well which means switching to the inverted cam when in 3D mode redefines upright. Now you can shoot gaps upside down and backwards.

[@DesignRobot_co]

DividingByZero FPV that’s dope, ok I’m in. Gonna build One.

[@chip2034]

🙌🏼Cool man🤖 Keep up the Work Bad ASS 🐝

[@bryandebruyn4410]

Seeing how easy it is nowadays with the tech to do a double cam quad it is more amazing that DBV and some others did this with some 'older' tech. Great vid guys, now my mind tells me you need a cheaterquad too. Darn you ......

[@AsgardStudios]

Very cool guys!

[@epoweredrc]

WOW that is awesome... different for sure.

[@drumrboynoid]

I made one of these with two runcams. Im using an old video splitter though so theres a delay in the video switching so its super confusing.

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

Try a Bicks Multiview Duo. Very small and very quick. 11 bucks at like PyroDrone or RMRC.

[@Shure_Lock]

Its so cool to see a bunch a fellow nerds freaking out about 2 cameras

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

Have not seen any of them continuing to experiment with it yet. I am waiting and watching. Hopefully more people will start playing with it.

[@ianyboo]

Is the Session footage a little blurry or am I just spoiled by the most recent Gopros?

[@ThomasDesJardins]

Are you guys ever going to experiment with mounting a VR camera!!? I'd love so see some awesome FPVR. I have a camera but it wont fit on my 3 inch...gonna have to upgrade I guess.

[@smerkkwads3235]

That would make some very Interesting footage!👍

[@fracisfpv9864]

Ok. Good stuff. Would it be possible to reverse roll and yaw controls on the switch that switches camera? That way when you switch, roll and yaw are correct?

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

That is exactly what is done.

[@fracisfpv9864]

DividingByZero FPV Did they switch the controls too? It looked they they were remembering the controls were reversed when they were on the back camera.

[@VORT3XFPV]

Fracis FPV No, we had the controls switch when the camera switched. We were forgetting which way we were going until we put it on a momentary.

[@Wtf_drone_productions]

i thought this was kinda gimmicky at first but now i see the fun.

[@lewisshipway7187]

i was the same

[@danieldavelaar]

Damn cool! Vanover clearly likes this, he had the best moves imho

[@sk8rix24]

How can you change it on the tx?

[@shilohstore6086]

That is the best a rotor Riot video can get........ Without botgrinder 😏

[@orisisun]

Totally nailed it guys - I like you comming up with new ideas!

[@brettm.1770]

A real cheater quad is a controllable 360 camera with 3D props.

[@chancewilson1161]

That’s some crazy stuff right there!

[@jasebatey5468]

This was awesomeness 🤘

[@KamilK3]

0:02 that's Steele's UFO passing by

[@CopperTOPDave]

Crickets legacy was just killed! He's the king of flying blind and now we can all cheat it! LOL You're still top pilot in my book @cricketFPV

[@spfpv6753]

Cricket's the man! I don't think that boy cheats at anything.

[@bahbahbenny4924]

Finally a use for our momentary switches

[@flo-ridafpv5713]

I use mine as a Pre arm and horizon mode as bailout incase video or orientation loss ;)

[@berberdodo]

Can you put camera 1 and 2 in the OSD? or foreword and reverse ...

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

Use the camera OSD

[@NoAgendaFPV]

Curious what kind of fancy stuff you could do with this while chasing an RC airplane.

[@krisakers8568]

Pretty awesome!

[@shaunthedrone]

Thumbs up ere' Rotor Riot fellow Drone Seekers - many thanks for sharing :)

[@guyspizza06]

I get what you guys are doing and it's great! And your ridiculous lol. I love that too. Keep up the good work.

[@jackdaniels7913]

Inverted yaw transitions ? 🥃cheers🍻

[@edrone_]

Something else you could do so you knew whether you are flying front camera or back camera instead of using the momentary switch is turn on the back camera's on screen display if it has one and do the name as back That way every time you switch to the back camera you will see it says back on your display

[@WillBicks]

I few people do this when they have 3 or 4 cameras, with some inverted. Checkout DividingByZero.

[@honeytap1738]

Couldnt tell ya how many times i tilted my head watching this

[@lucamilizia3912]

great nausea builder! 😊

[@bgamble477]

great footage and good idea for a next build. Someone give Drew a recording contract "MC La Drib"

[@starshipfpv]

Drew being the downer in the group 😅 lol

[@tylersadler42]

Is that what Cricket does? lol This is really cool.

[@rorywaddinghamnoisemaker]

i think it would be awesome for reverse building dives

[@FlyingPenguinDrones]

Lmaoooo. Imagine cheating Cricket's reverse dive so easily

[@manu6314]

Hello, you fly with the nirvana no?

[@bumbleboltfpv3707]

Well that made me want to vomit. lol. Awesome flights!

[@DesignRobot_co]

haha! Drew with the freestyle mc flow

[@Nightrider.f87]

Awesome video!!!