The Chris Smoove Controversy

[@timlett99]

The worst types of players in 2k, Madden, FIFA etc are people who play the game rather than the sport. Everyone looks for the meta, abuses it, breaks the game and then blames the developers. And because there are so many people that abuse the game everyone else has to fall in line to even attempt to have fun at the game. The fact people saw Smoove talking about this exact dilemma and decided to clown him are so unaware of why the games suck its sad lmao. LSK wasn't wrong at all and he wasn't disrespectful imo but he and Smoove are having different conversations, Smoove isn't saying players are "bad" at the game he’s just saying they don't play actual basketball and its wild people can't admit this lmfao

[@SilkyLew]

Nah, the worst type players are one's who only play 2k, madden and call of duty lol.

[@RealAaron317]

People arguing over a game 😅😅😅😅😅

[@Crystar500]

@@SilkyLew Those people be like "gaming fell off" and only got like 3 games on their shelf

[@dumbassdude8372]

Nah play 2k to play 2k, play basketball if you want to play basketball. I dont agree with cheesers but this whole arguements is stupid

[@timlett99]

@@SilkyLew lmao you right I feel bad for the people who have only ever played sports and fps games, they're really missing out. I will say tho I think people, specifically non sports/fps fans overrate the hell out of story and RPG games

[@Himmyjewett]

the ones "exposing" chris are the same ones that spam the same moves

[@Son_D._Bear]

Facts

[@danielcapece782]

Chris smoove is 100% correct. Anyone who disagrees knows nothing about basketball

[@braxton9192]

The majority of 2k players have never watched or played ball... I'm convinced most of the developers have never watched a game in their life... 2k isn't conducive to real basketball

[@CMP_18]

@@superb_ilocano8717stop yelling it’s hurting my ears

[@Ant424]

@@superb_ilocano8717mf glitching across the court isn’t skill. Wipe ya mouth and get off ur knees😂😂

[@khalilyounger519]

@@superb_ilocano8717so spamming the same move over and over is okay with you just for a 3 ball cuz you can’t get open? So you gotta pull out the scrubbiest thing in the game. That’s definitely not real basketball

[@brianbcj]

I agree 💯 but he Late AF the whole 2k community late All HAIL NBA LIVE 24

[@ThePeachTube]

Chris Smoove ain’t tell a single lie.

[@ihatevice]

Yea he told about 100 lies

[@patrickroni4038]

@@ihatevicespam dribbler

[@ihatevice]

@@patrickroni4038 corner sitter

[@patrickroni4038]

@@ihatevice jokes on you I don’t play 2k (I have a life)

[@ihatevice]

@@patrickroni4038 you can’t have a life if you chose to emd today instead of doing sum productive lol

[@timemaster6155]

Lsk misses the whole point…. Chris smoove doesn’t care how good he is in the park and honestly he’s not that bad. The people who he says would smoke smoove are the people who just spam dribble and spent 8 hours tryna practice the most broken things. Smoove just wants real basketball and not just iso and I don’t get what’s wrong with that.

[@yt_clazify]

Then they say the game becomes bad after the first month because people find the cheese and the meta build and run with it 2k23 changed the builder just for damned near everyone to use the same build

[@yt_clazify]

Which is mainly their fault

[@yt_clazify]

I don't get how the cheesers act like they didn't kill the game personally I didn't care about adrenaline but they the reason it's in the game and of course you know they complained about it

[@postsupremacy]

chris smoove is objectively bad in park.

[@slojo404]

Nah he pretty ass ngl

[@DankSwegSkuxxXhayel]

Chris Smoove can never have controversy, the goat stays unbothered

[@theportugueselegend]

Chris is one of the earliest and greatest 2K youtubers ever. There's a reason he has a big and loyal fanbase following him, catchphrases and all. While these "influencers" started screaming at their mics and playing park and rec only trying to find the meta, Smoove was already playing MyCareer and MyTeam at least 8 years before, in the 2k10 days. He deserves respect, because his fanbase grew up on his videos and he stayed interesting and chill. I can add Shakedown to it too

[@TowDow3]

don't forget apexisfree, roenic, 2k OGs lol

[@SharpShooter700]

Smoove is the OG Cod youtuber. That Chris Smoove cereal was different

[@showdahh888]

not “one of” he IS the first 2k youtuber ever lol

[@maxrodriguez889]

Mans Chris been abusing the Hall of Fame CPU since before most 2k youtubers nowadays even had a camera. I cant believe that in 2023 people really tried to disrespect Smoove. He is the OG, that shit maybe coulda flew 5ish years ago but even then hell nah.

[@CarbonComs]

​@@SharpShooter700 Nah there were def Cod youtubers before Smoove, but when he started playing MW2 he was probably getting more views than anybody else

[@carsonrorie6399]

Translation: dudes are butthurt that they are getting called out by Chris Smoove

[@postsupremacy]

translation: bums hate the meta and are mad

[@JayP__]

​@@postsupremacyImagine thinking you're good at the game by abusing the metas lol

[@CarbonComs]

@@postsupremacy The meta of a simulation sports game should probably somewhat resemble the actual sport. Nothing about back and forth spammers looks anything like something you'd see on a basketball court. Try running back and forth with the ball in a pick up game and just see what happens.

[@SilkyLew]

I don't even take 2k community serious

[@TheDepiano]

As you shouldn't

[@jmichael91]

fr the games arent good enough

[@gillfreddie4100]

Who does?

[@abusive_kindness]

It's crazy casue I watch 2k videos but never played the game before it's funny how someone can get this mad over nothing 😂

[@InfiniteCoreXD]

Lsk a goofy

[@ddddreed]

People are really weird about Chris Smoove

[@SweatyTurban34]

mfs rly clowning the goat cuz he calling out all these skill-less spammers who just wanna win by cheesing instead of being better.

[@AbsoleteAim]

​@@SweatyTurban34Fr

[@cutc2k764]

That’s that cheese!

[@DonCheetoss]

LSK can troll him all he want. But he's a failure of an athlete.

[@akkoismydaughter3573]

They just jealous cuz Chris Smoove made much more on youtube

[@erdenebayar777]

to all the youtubers who are roasting chris smoove, he made you

[@danielnelson6903]

Facts no meat riding but he is the Godfather of 2k💯

[@theprocessss]

Elon gave trolls too much power on twitter when he was supposed to do the opposite

[@silversoulken]

He LIED. He is literally a troll himself and always has been.

[@joecon601]

Lmao fr. He basically made the trolls stronger by being able to pay $8 to be more visible to anyone, which is really all they want. Did you see he’s trying to remove the block feature? And the people celebrating/encouraging it are the biggest trolls themselves.

[@crablord7934]

LSK failed at both pro sports and gaming takes, that's tuff

[@KarloBlaze]

Don touch my guy Chris! I've been watching his videos since 2k9 😅

[@PeteJDesierto]

that's why playing HOF is better than playing bunch of spammers!

[@yt_clazify]

I prefer beyond Hof sliders on my league and making the ai beyond busted

[@swagoneto7922]

It's mainly the ''Dribble Gods'' complaining about this..OG Smoove spoke nothing but facts and they hurt about it.

[@abusive_kindness]

Ong 😂

[@worldzworstgamer6539]

The whole dribbling community is so sensitive they are the most sensitive group on the 2k community they cry when ever a build is better they think they are the most skilled players ever then but then complain that every other build doesn’t have skill but then sit around in there lobby’s trying to find every other build to find roll players then complain when they sell the team cause there spam dribbling isn’t consistent

[@reno419rockstar]

The dribbling community is what what f**KS the game up. Off ball screens, pinions, post moves, get open ... they still dribbling. Dribble God goes to the whole then passes ... turnover.

[@rich4446]

@@reno419rockstarexactly. It ruins every aspect of offense for the rest of us bc the “point guard” would rather hunt for clips/highlights than play basketball

[@satansbunghole8444]

My friends and I recently got into playing online and we’ve been having the same issue fr. Basketball is the most beautiful sport we have today and there’s so much nuance in it to make it that way, so when we load into 2K and try playing basketball and instead meet dribble gods, mfs that are greening spinning fadeaway 3’s, and cherrypickers, all of them having the same exact animations equipped because it’s “meta” just hurts fr. Like if I wanted to play a game where people abuse metas I’d play a shooter game or something, I just want to play basketball bc it’s like 9 PM and we’re all so far away now bc of college, but whenever we do it’s 6’9 PGs that are outrebounding our 7 footers and then contact dunking on them then can hit a half courter or a 7’0+ center that’s getting driving contact dunks while being able to dribble like Kyrie and AI had a fusion dance

[@theportugueselegend]

That's beautiful man, I'm sure 80% of the community understands how you feel. My dudes and me started playing together back in 2k16, when the game was more balanced. We played all the way to 2k20 and then some of us changed systems and changed lives in general. Now, with crossplay, we're expecting to play together again like the good old days, but this search for a meta and focus on playstyles look boring honestly

[@saucerfullofzepp4203]

The L in LSK stands for something.

[@cardinalsfan9610]

People have complained for years about shooting in 2K, as one example. Smoove has called out the people whining consistently in the last handful of years.. But I would be willing to bet that a lot of the whiners don't play 2K much. It's easier to put work on the devs' end than it would be for a player to improve, I suppose. And it sucks to see Smoove get dragged into something that he shouldn't have to deal with. Those folks that fuss just complain for the sake of complaining. "I can't make shots" has been a constant thing devs are told. And the devs can only do so much at the end of the day.

[@isaacborthwick4788]

I think this is a symptom of the larger in issue in mainstream online gaming of finding the meta, abusing and breaking it and complaining to devs all year long. Shit is getting tiring man

[@TarkiTark]

Preach

[@connorharrell3822]

I’m sorry anyone who thinks that 2k shouldn’t be based on real basketball as much as they can is looking for an entire different game than me and I just wish there was some competition for 2k so they couldn’t cater to all of the annoying children desperately looking for any way to win a 2k game no matter what bullshit cheesy way they have to play. 2k24 seems better but I’m not getting my hopes up

[@yt_clazify]

You know they gonna kill the game they always find a way to get the cheese they so desperate it's actually sad I only play offline modes play now online and my team these days when I play 2k but I never been a stay on one game person I always mix it up

[@ojsimpson.]

All online play should be realistic, and offline should have an option for an arcade like styles or a cheesey style. People spamming the meta ruins the game and they complain about the game sucking after getting rid of the small defense buffs from the start of the year. The people who spam the meta dribble moves are the leading cause in the downfall of online 2k

[@masternas45]

This is where NBA Live would come in. For the more arcade style hoop you should play that and simulation ball should be in 2k.

[@imcoupe]

ong. I want a game where if you good u good and if u suck u just suck. Just because some fat ass dorito snorting 12 yr old spends money on the game and I don't it doesn't mean I should be at a disadvantage.

[@hmp01]

hell no I don't want an arcade sports game

[@sauxewon21]

I think the community don’t like moves that get someone a guaranteed bucket every time that’s really what the convo should be about

[@JohnnyMiamiHeat305]

Chris smoove is a legend and no one will ever turn on him, these guys need to pick someone else to talk shit about it

[@JohnnyMiamiHeat305]

Ignore the it

[@Notilaam]

The problem with 2K summed up in less than a minute 5:07-5:20

[@fromcastrospov4723]

Couldn't of said it any better and that's the problem with the 2k community

[@malrulesall9669]

All he really wants is a good basketball game

[@RMSNOMORLIMA]

I just played a few games in the rec...I can literally stand in the corner wide open for 20 seconds and then watch the spam dribbler go up for a contested shot 6 out of 10 possessions in the game. I completely get what Smoove is saying.

[@swagoneto7922]

You can be a walk on and it will happen 9/10 times.

[@SaintFrenchy]

That’s why you gotta have your own squad

[@titusrobinson5413]

The only success some people have is taking a bite out of someone else's.

[@stealthiscool]

If you win consistenly solely because of cheesing the game, you are not good, I don't care what anybody says.

[@SummrBrk]

Exactly THOUSANDS of moves and animations implemented each year only for spammers and cheeses to find the broken shit. WTF Is the point of 2kU.

[@danielnelson6903]

You are correct, spamming the same two broken animations back and forth and then they have the audacity to call themselves “good” real basketball lovers don’t take these clowns seriously at all

[@RecapRico]

If these people actually thought their play style was fire the 2K league wouldn’t have 20 people watching their streams every tournament 😂😂😂 these people know that play style is trash; they just don’t wanna lose so they play a meta play style

[@theportugueselegend]

It's sad because the game stopped being about skill level and iq, which translated badly to esports

[@postsupremacy]

i dont play meta and i have a 90 win percentage. chris smoove isnt good.

[@wondoxl4866]

@@postsupremacyyou also play the game all day.

[@postsupremacy]

@@wondoxl4866 no im just good. some people suck, other people dont.

[@Shockkings0714]

@@postsupremacyNot having a sweat win percentage means you’re bad?

[@BigLukeBeChillin]

Smoove is 100% correct this is why playnow online is my favorite mode it’s the most honest competition in the game. No boosts, no overpowered players, spamming almost non existent it’s just down to who’s the better 2k player 💯

[@qybii]

How do people find a way to hate on Chris smoove 😭

[@danielnelson6903]

Blinded by stupidity and jealousy

[@isadoregonzalez3016]

Y’all remember when everyone said it wasnt Chris playing his my career games 😂 this community is hilarious

[@SilkBuckets]

Nah this is really sad. Who would dare talk shit when your youtube influencer 2k job would not be there without smoove (not you clique you're good obviously)

[@CheerioTV]

imagine coming at chris smoove

[@ultrareviewer1]

Clique is like the moist critical of the nba world

[@jaibrown7265]

I think the biggest thing everyone is failing to understand about what Chris smoove is ultimately suggesting is to simply buff the defense. We keep talking about offense offense offense when we don’t talk about defense. The reason why 2k16,2k17 was the “glory days” is because of the fact that there was variety in gameplay. 2k is now made to where it defeats the purpose to be unique because if you’re spamming and scoring everytime of course you’re going to do it. That’s why with GMAN in 2k20 talked about play take so much about being trash because you could only snatch back to get animations. Ik I talked about 2-3 different games but the point I’m trying to make is that all the “good 2ks” defense was at least decent. Don’t believe me? Think about your favorite 2k and think about why you like it so much.

[@HeIsFlx]

I remember when smoove had a series where he would play trash talkers on myteam and all these people talking shit on him now reminded me of that

[@joshuaSSC]

Chris Smoove is been getting hate by his own 2k community like wtf bruh...... The 2k Community are the ones should've gotten the hate..... Y'all are the ones cheesin in 2k by using the spam dribbling cheese and by complaining every 2k like wtf???

[@michaelmamba1578]

Are people really shit talking the father of basketball content on KZbin? HE STARTED THIS SHIT wtf

[@powertrip8676]

Last time I checked 2k is a basketball simulator not the arcade NBA JAM. I’m with smoove

[@eimajsolomon4151]

The defense isn’t that great to me in 2k23. Outside of the steals being OP in the beginning you just don’t feel that good on defense like it’s don’t have that rewarding feeling of locking someone up. I do find it funny that a few of the dribble heads are upset about the pro play due to the dribbling going more to the realism part

[@kxngmuzikig2417]

its a bunch of 12-16 yr olds that don't understand how basketball works, complaining that you can't spam dribble moves for 24 sec. half of the community wants a bball simulator. the other half wants a full on arcade game.

[@JR-he6fn]

imagine if 2k had competition, the gaming basketball community would be even worse with people picking sides instead of wanting the best for everyone

[@billwang3720]

If you don't understand what Chris was saying you never played real basketball

[@PatToReal]

“Damn he got a trophy”😭😭

[@nategardiner7337]

Smoove was speaking nothing but facts lol

[@marvinsalazar510]

Chris Smoove is the GOD of the 2K community. Haters/Bashers...Do not disrespect the God.

[@nickjones1863]

yet another reason to never give 2k my money ever again

[@daxmoney5011]

Bro why in the fuck are people clowning smoove without him most content creators for park would be working at McDonald’s

[@SilkBuckets]

Smoove stays winning. Without smoove, LSK would be a 6'10 Janitor. fact

[@javiusrobinson589]

Listen there is NOTHIN wrong with preferrin a Arcadic basketball game but at the end of the day we get 2k erry year for the love of the sport definitely me personally but it’s a problem when you think your playstyle is the only way it should be played in a simulated basketball game clique said exactly wat I said when I watched Chris video he. Did not. Say. He. Was. A dribbler. He was voicin his opinion the ppl who tried to clown him for it is the niggas he’s referrin to💀 not everybody wants to spam the same dribble moves that the next player have they just want to play basketball there’s nothin wrong with a balance cuz it is a video game at da end of the day but clownin a man who probably PYO to 2k for voicin where the state of the game that we BASKETBALL FANS know and love is headed cuz you don’t like to play legit basketball is a problem to me

[@yt_clazify]

I don't think 2k meant for arcade style maybe wwe 2k and the games like NBA jam NBA street games that just absolutely destroy realism but is fun NBA 2k is just meant more for realism in my personal opinion I don't really think they can mix but what do I know I play my league my team and play now online and I barely play 2k these days

[@yt_clazify]

I always loved svr 08 on the Xbox 360

[@KiLlACaMrOn94]

Shitting on/disrespecting yourself does not cancel out disrespecting someone else

[@savlosavage]

The problem is spamming to the point of exploitation ... and if 2k makes a change its so dispariging to all players so the thing is to call out dribble spammers explicitly breaking the game

[@ijbagregory]

Same people who argue about this are the same people who can’t get up and play the sport

[@talib-_-2129]

Power really a rat for uploading a 2 year old rant from 21 next gen 🤣

[@eternalgamers10]

That's how you know when they're down bad. Using a clip from 2 years ago lol sad.

[@abusive_kindness]

😂

[@KinhJow]

and those were clips of him learning new sigs😅😂😂

[@216Love]

This brother looks like he'd wear out onna court 🤣

[@May9k]

title had me worried real quick lol. glad its just some 2k stuff

[@MarcosSantos-zm5kv]

LSK is like that one random dude to call out a D1 athlete, just to get dunked under the rim 🤣

[@x6King6x]

I'm on the side of playing the game the right way.

[@zacharyfrye1075]

Yeah man I really don’t want anybody to disrespect Chris Smoove

[@ToothpasteNorangejuice]

I agree with Chris smoove and he definitely birthed half of ya 2k content creators for sureee

[@di-lungjr8764]

I knew the 2k community was cooked when they started calling driving to the basket, rim running

[@rugratjayyy1710]

How is he wrong? 😂 it’s meta build 6’1 and 6’9s. 5 out offense. Zone defense. He said it’s no variety and mfs are still able to dribble the whole shot clock and hit a tough ass step back 3.

[@scottcowan7343]

I play MyLeague local and MyLeague local only. Online for any sports game is completely buggered because the developers barely put effort into the offline modes anymore to begin with. If the developers aren't bothering to check if anything actually works it's not surprising that people are realizing you can take advantage of lazy programming and just spam dribble till you win. I play what I enjoy and what I know works well and isn't frustrating. It's a game yall.

[@Nousername0]

That’s part of the reason I stopped playing 2k. No one plays the game how it’s supposed to be played. CPU D, exploits, other weird shit. It doesn’t feel like a basketball game anymore

[@YoBoyNero]

At this point people that are hating on Chris smoove just for clout

[@Somanyreasons13]

How to unfall off is the funniest shit

[@AtypicalWarrior]

LSK talking about anything is crazy lmfao

[@ku5389]

Can’t touch Chris

[@alfaeology]

This is why I don't play any online game anymore because people just try to find the meta and everyone is using that. But I like how Pokémon community is bullying meta plays, kinda the opposite of most video game community where they just blame 'casual' for trying to play the game.

[@jmoney4437]

With 2k it’s not the game it’s the community all 2k had to do was give us 2k16 or 17 with better rewards

[@seanmcintyre5936]

I’m a little late but how was that not disrespecting Smoove?

[@wondoxl4866]

All I’m gonna say is there’s a reason why smoove has 2k connections since 2015 and the rest of these losers just make wishlist videos

[@XabzintheNBAGuru]

I hate 2k lol only watch it coz Clique posts but this community will always make the game rep shit although yall have gotten everything you want

[@theportugueselegend]

Don't roll them all in one. The community is badly portrayed, mainly because Ronnie is a mediocre rep and all them KZbinrs have a collective IQ of a flock of birds. Mike Wang does actually explain things very well

[@DACOLDESTXIII]

You can tell who knows how to play basketball in real life by how they play 2k. A lot of these 2k players are trash at quick match but can be “good” at park because thats the only mode they can use those spam/broken moves.

[@ssjsal2159]

LSK is 6’10 and weak at basketball 💀

[@PeepThaGod]

There’s people that specialize dribbling like Steezo 🤷‍♂️ that’s just the play style can’t be mad at someone who grinds to get better at it 😂 just get better at defense

[@MacDeeDrumz]

Tbh y’all want a real game, but break it, tell me how often do you run plays? And the dribbling y’all can’t sit here and think dribbling non stop is basketball?

[@swagglyfe]

nihs always gon find one thing to collectively complain ab

[@CPI99]

Smoove is right it's actually fucking ridiculous how much exploiting is accepted in 2k. I play Apex. If somebody made a video showing how to abuse a exploit they would get shit on and they wouldn't be respected AT ALL. 2K has been babysitting and encouraging these cheeses for so long that it's seen as normal. And if you push back against it you get seen as crazy. This is why I'll never buy this BS. Last 2k I played was a gift

[@Sirnextinline]

Dudes get mad bc someone doesn’t like the way they play

[@quaniereacts]

You said like so many times I couldn’t even get through the video lol

[@denk664]

Give this guy a map, what are you doing? Smoove is right.

[@voninyourmom6510]

why did he put how to un fall off in the tab 😭 fuck

[@6dogs729]

They mad he...THE GOAT THEEEE GOOOOAT! 🐐🤣

[@johnvillo4824]

They are trying to trash the smoove moves.. the 2k Godfather. Give that guy a manual. What are youuuu doin'?

[@austinreavis8875]

The way i see it, and this is just an opinion, is that spamming is okay as long as thats not the only way you can get a bucket

[@TigerSharkEagle]

So ppl are disrespecting the goat now?? Chris smoove made 2k! Stop it man...

[@SummrBrk]

LSK is wrong. A lot of these kids aren’t better. Going to 2kU, going to learn the game controls from beginner to intermediate shows you’re better. Chris smoove isn’t wrong it’s all cheese and spams that’s not better that’s just EXPLOITS. No exploits no real skill for ALOT OF THESE 2k players.

[@travb120]

Spam rec players only have fun when they play each other

[@Robo311Star]

All I do is get dubs without cheesen. Only lil boys search for the META

[@bball933]

Hence why a lot of people hate playing online. If you don’t know how to cheese the system and just play the game how you would irl you’re gonna get smoked🤣

[@CESAR154__]

Chris Smoove is the Beyoncé of the 2k community, simply untouchable

[@phoenixrevolver3793]

We really taking LSK serious? After the whole TD thing?

[@kennethbarnesEight50]

This video was all over the place. Yikes

[@CliqueClips]

Feel you. Tryna work on that while being live

[@daddyk504]

S/o the GOAT Chris Smoove!!!! Anyone mad or salty must be hurt because a man with a huge 2k following had an opinion that makes sense and now they feel attacked….”You ain’t Kyrie baaaabbbyyyyyyy”

[@abusive_kindness]

Chris is speaking facts why do people hate on the truth lmaoo

[@Garf2O]

I already knew the "controversy" bit was bullshit cause smoove ain't that one imao

[@TheManOfTheHourEveryHour]

2K players will troll Isaiah Rivera's comment sections then boot up the game and play just like him 😭😭😭😭😭