No need for spoiler block We know why we here We here to FEEL GOOD!
@stoyc2 ай бұрын
is good!
@Jiloh52 ай бұрын
First genuine comment in KZbin I see that's upvoted like this. Wp
@frankmartel34282 ай бұрын
@@stoyc nah nah its more like IIIIIS GOOOOOOOD!!! xD
@TechnoAbabil2 ай бұрын
True
@js.mp32 ай бұрын
Eeeeeees goooooood
@lovecramperdrumpinthejoker52372 ай бұрын
ironic that's the church is closed in sunday of all days.
@wrathandflame39872 ай бұрын
Lmaoooo this is too good top comment
@202215jaffe5212 ай бұрын
T1 are non-believer anyway XDD
@missbelled67002 ай бұрын
@@202215jaffe521 god believes in faker
@theflash2062 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Saida___2 ай бұрын
what is a god to 5 non-believers -captainflowers
@gerguren54832 ай бұрын
9 worlds appearances 7 worlds finals Faker is the GOAT
@august_yuuka2 ай бұрын
No lower than semifinal as well
@LainIrukawa2 ай бұрын
@@august_yuuka yes and the semis things was only happened twice the rest are all finals
@waterbottlexd12982 ай бұрын
To think that he fell once to G2
@barneyforfree53922 ай бұрын
Currently a 67% win rate at finals, if they win thats gonna 71%.
@redflagy82 ай бұрын
Faker has a 50%win rate at worlds about to go higher 😂
@augustuscaesar22622 ай бұрын
- 3 worlds finals in a row. - winning 3-0 in quarters 4 times in a row ( against LPL 3 times in a row ). - winning semis 3-1 3 times in a row. - knocking out the MSI champion 3 times in a row.
@TheSir05022 ай бұрын
Wish this one could be 3 worlds wins in a row but it is overkill. Im good with this one
@justsomedude7592 ай бұрын
@TheSir0502 nah, 3 wins a row means that we don't get that DRX run so yeah, i'm happy with the way things are now.
@SpeedKillersGaming2 ай бұрын
Feels scripted but it is not
@Shreddasaurus2 ай бұрын
@@justsomedude759Drx were frauds
@justsomedude7592 ай бұрын
@SpeedKillersGaming if T1 win worlds again this year, you could make a movie of the three years starting from 2022 worlds until now into a movie and people will say that you let your imagination run a bit too wild.
@bluey16952 ай бұрын
Zeus literally broke Lehends on that first dive in game 1 and he never recovered.
@giogiolachance43132 ай бұрын
TILTED
@ultrawhitebread2 ай бұрын
He channelled TheShy stopping the Nocturne Gwen dive in finals minus the inting immediately after.
@ezrealmain12272 ай бұрын
@@ultrawhitebread This deserves more likes
@koffeekae15942 ай бұрын
@@ultrawhitebread this time arounf im not praising him for his plays but rather his patience NOT to make plays 😂😂😂
@AppleBottomG2 ай бұрын
@@ultrawhitebreadahh yes the 2 sides of Theshy it's either He's the Best Toplaner in the world or the Worst 😂
@inkershrike2 ай бұрын
kept reloading to see when this shit is going to be dropped
@KevinMarkLozares2 ай бұрын
doing this sh*t after the live
@DemBigOlEyes2 ай бұрын
I HAD to see how the RAT would react to this series. Absolute banger!
@nickojohnsalonga52212 ай бұрын
same
@strahil.stefanov2 ай бұрын
SAME. I COULDN WATCH IT AND I NO MORE WATCH THE NORMAL STREAM so I waited for Caedrel's vid
@ninzzzryota93732 ай бұрын
Same, even though I watched it live already
@elkaidred05122 ай бұрын
The sigh of relief Faker must have felt when he saw all 4 members of T1 clutching the 5v4 after he was caught LITERALLY at the same area while on RED SIDE just like in 2017. And the CRAZIEST thing about the outcome of that fight is also the fact that in 2017, Ruler's Varus caught Faker but this time GUMA'S VARUS was the one to SAVE T1 and Faker. History will always find ways to repeat itself but it takes TRUE challengers to defy them.
@l1ttleflyyy2 ай бұрын
I got literally the same Dejavu when Faker got caught at the raptors. Absolute cinema!
@DizGaAlcam2 ай бұрын
I think he didn't get caught on the last fight, it looks like he baited the E+Flash Poppy combo, there's absolutely no reason to take that stepback otherwise in that situation, watched it again a lot of times and it seems purposeful, with it he turned a 5v3 into a 4v1 and a 1v2, effectively taunting Chovy, Kiin, Peyz for a solid 2 seconds and confusing Canyon in which target to jump in for a split second, THAT allowed T1 to turn the fight, to kill off Lehends and time for Zeus and Keria to flank. Had they focused all down on the guaranteed kill on Oner instead and repositioned that would've been a whole different game, maybe even series. I wish I could ask him (Faker) if that was actually a bait, has to be, but honestly it's just crazy, it's next level mindgames, we know him to use his... "aura" for lack of a better word, to taunt people into making these plays. So, I think he knew they'd clutch the fight as soon as he found the opportunity for them to turn it, which I see as an ever bigger statement on how in sync T1 is.
@michaeljoshua7262 ай бұрын
@@DizGaAlcam Ah yes Another one of those T1 fans who thinks every play they made is intentional (I ain't reading all that)
@rivera81092 ай бұрын
@@michaeljoshua726ah yes another t1 hater who cant read
@michaeljoshua7262 ай бұрын
@@rivera8109 did I say I'm a T1 hater? Dude I've been supporting them since 2015 And I watched all their lck games since 2022 So shut up Hahaha You people are the reason why some fans hate T1 "fans" Me too I hate my fandom cause of kids like you Hahaha
@NPCJordan2 ай бұрын
The respect of not uploading until time makes it to complete game 5 is huge. Respect to the editor
@atthaero23822 ай бұрын
Ahh I see now why they wait!
@numberM42 ай бұрын
I thought they just needed that time to do the editing
@Saimiri1334Ай бұрын
Genius editor yep!
@raynier33272 ай бұрын
It almost brought a tear to my eye seeing Faker get caught my poppy and killed. This brought back memories of Ruler catching Faker's Karma. Yet seeing T1 ZOGK win the fight after Faker's death was beautiful. Almost to prove that T1 has healed.
@JF0982 ай бұрын
This is why I love this roster so much
@Harumy08102 ай бұрын
Heavy is the crown but faker no longer has to carry the burden alone. He has teammates that he can rely on now. Beautiful script lol
@roivoy2 ай бұрын
I had the exact same thought I was literally screaming "not again!!" while watching live, that was insane.
@augustusplays78962 ай бұрын
I don’t wanna hear anyone bitch about faker or T1 ever again.
@offthegrid7772 ай бұрын
No one gets left behind this time. Killing Faker seems to be more valuable than the Nexus, and by God that made Faker the best bait. #ZOFGK
@rapiplays25962 ай бұрын
"T1 is lucky they never face GenG at Worlds" 🤡🤡
@Jordidwaard2 ай бұрын
To be fair, t1 did int most of their matchups against GenG. Ofcourse keria and faker get worlds buff so its fine.
@katanaz71242 ай бұрын
@Jordidwaard to be fair Lehends trolled so hard T1 couldve fell asleep and still won
@rawriee2 ай бұрын
@@katanaz7124 chovy afk farming like its soloq while his team get galled 4v5 😮😮
@kongdovad2112 ай бұрын
@@katanaz7124 yes can you position a bit differently so your tears can hit my french fries they need some salt
@BrallBob2 ай бұрын
@katanaz7124 Peyzpal being useless as usual also helped alot
@definitelycultured75212 ай бұрын
59:47 when Akali used Zhonya in GenG fountain infront of Chovy, it fking resonate with the Teaser of Faker saying "Prove it" to Chovy and that close up shot on him lmao Edit: also when Faker was caught by GenG in the last teamfight in Game 4 at mid, it kinda feels the same when Faker got caught by SSG at mid as well but this time the other 4 strikes back (it's fking true when Guma said "the heavy burden of crown, we'll carry it together")
@deantrbl69492 ай бұрын
How does Faker always make these coldest storylines at worlds bruhhhhhhhhh when I saw that play i instantly thought of the teaser as well... this could be a damn movie scene
@mukamuka02 ай бұрын
Chovy forgot something, so Faker has to dive the fountain to give him back....the Disrespect...!!! 😈
@KrizzlerYT2 ай бұрын
Chovy is not ready. Period. You could say he didn't make that many errors but sometimes the best go for the plays even if it fails and loses them the game.
@defky48362 ай бұрын
MY GOAT, THIS WORLD’S MC, CANT JUST KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT. PLOT ARMOR LIKE NO OTHER GOES INSANELY HARD
@Haychdog2 ай бұрын
Bro the amount of goosebumps you gave me by pointing this out! Shits straight off an anime!!
@SanestGuy2 ай бұрын
Imagine HLE did not break the golden road of GenG, T1 would have stopped 2 golden roads in a row
@Rx-lj4vd2 ай бұрын
wait wtf u cooked
@JinhoIzanagawa2 ай бұрын
it would be a 3-1 AGAIN aswell
@ujuuju43112 ай бұрын
Dammn you're right, now I hate HLE for beating GenG on the LCK finals 😂😂
@mlgbblade52212 ай бұрын
It’s so sad imagine 2023 jdg had bin, would legit be the strongest team ever
@user-cu3tv8jc8r2 ай бұрын
their lost was also on cait in game two and game 4 win was on varus.
@Why_Do_I_Need_A_Handle_Name2 ай бұрын
Fuck. I remember watching Caedrel's Worlds Team Tier vid. He said that objectively, as T1, getting to Top 8 was it. Getting to Top 4 was something to celebrate. Winning Worlds 2024 would be mind-blowing. And here we are. 1 series away.
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
Mikyx over Keria 🤣🤣
@yavuz90382 ай бұрын
@@gunjb8567lol I remember that now this guy doesn’t know shit
@justsomedude7592 ай бұрын
Well, everyone did seem to forget the T1 worlds buff once again after seeing what happened last year
@Neverthemoreorless2 ай бұрын
@@gunjb8567 As it should be
@grrumakemeangry2 ай бұрын
@@gunjb8567 we all know caedrel is biased and trash at analysis. Faker who always gets to finals or wins not being considered the nr1 mid or saying hes washed is just classic delusional narrative hater talk from cathedral.
@to.u.em0172 ай бұрын
Ahri never beating the Faker bias allegations 😌
@snowsilvers57402 ай бұрын
she only answer for one man they say.
@amibernice2 ай бұрын
@@snowsilvers5740saw a comment said she's his wifey that's why she only loyal to him 😅
@alex2005z2 ай бұрын
Knight ahri? We will probably see her being a prio pick in the finals
@rei52122 ай бұрын
@@alex2005z he'll just pick sylas like he did last time.
@alex2005z2 ай бұрын
@@rei5212 could be a blue side sylas ban. With yone and aurora mostly being consistent red side bans, banning sylas either forces them to ban ahri, wasting all 3 of their bans, or they have to play into ahri without sylas. Just an option. Or maybe they wont ban yone aurora (which could be the case, testing if your ideas into them work, which would be an amazing advantage for the draft of other games down the series)
@erick59742 ай бұрын
That guma chant went to hard. He must have felt so happy
@displeef45442 ай бұрын
Also every 5 minutes, we were chanting and clapping for T1 during the games but I couldn’t hear it that much on the video. They probably lowered or removed the sound.
@displeef45442 ай бұрын
To a point where I kinda felt bad for geng because nobody was cheering for them
@pricesmith1793Ай бұрын
@@displeef4544 I heard that when they came out to bow, everyone cheered them the way they deserved. At least Atlus said that. I'd love to see it.
@СерканШефкет-ъ4ц2 ай бұрын
Even quantum mechanics can't explain the buff T1 gets during worlds
@ultrawhitebread2 ай бұрын
Worlds is the conduit for the Demon King. It possesses T1 and channels prime Faker directly into their souls.
@uchihaawo58592 ай бұрын
@@ultrawhitebread😂😂😂
@crimsonphoenix89072 ай бұрын
@@ultrawhitebreadFaker sandbags the entire year only to bring out SKT T1 Faker at worlds
@rayaqin2 ай бұрын
@@crimsonphoenix8907 Faker intentionally ints to derank T1 to make people not believe in them, just to catch other teams off guard and stomp them at worlds, and make the story more interesting then "yeah its t1 again, every year"
@ironheart4375Ай бұрын
@@rayaqin wrong script, the Korean meta shifted to AD mid & it wasn't faker's playstyle. T1 had bad runs overall due to conflict in schedule but now they can focus on worlds 👍
@AAA-mk7ge2 ай бұрын
5th one is for Rekkles ❤ -Faker
@guilhermevalente7082 ай бұрын
And head chef Alex Kim 😂
@Mz-jj5dx2 ай бұрын
and lehends
@kerutoto2 ай бұрын
@@guilhermevalente708the head chef is straight up bussin frfr ong, on par with the HLE mama cook imo
@psy_992 ай бұрын
And Flyquest
@jakobwayne83742 ай бұрын
Hes gonna get the bro his World Trophy what a homie!😍
@Nokin922 ай бұрын
Bro T1 at world is just built different, and now all the haters can’t say that they’re only there because they didn’t play Gen G. T1 vs BLG is gonna be an absolute banger series
@lakesong75662 ай бұрын
gen.g fans in shambles, chovy will never stop the allegations
@maxk8802 ай бұрын
I hope it's gonna be a banger but I also wouldn't be surprised at a very quick and stompy 3-1 or 3-0 from T1, like last year. They are literally unbeatable if they're in form
@anthonyturner6399Ай бұрын
@@maxk880Huge Huge WBG fan here but they got a lucky quarters draw and 1 huge upset and that’s how they got to finals. They really wernt as good as their 2nd place finish at worlds showed. The series will be more like JDG vs t1 last year just because BLG is actually consistent. They will show up and T1 cannot out team fight them, I promise you that.
@veilousdrift8010Ай бұрын
From the future and how fckin right you are, T1 BLG was absolute cinema
@anthonyturner6399Ай бұрын
@@veilousdrift8010 was sad BLG lost but it literally took Super saiyan 2 Faker game 4 and game 5 so that shit was cinema for sure
@RaffyFlex2 ай бұрын
No team has ever gone to finals THREE TIMES IN A ROW. Cant doubt them anymore, regardless of losing, MSI or domestically. They are just built different for the Worlds Stage. T1 fighting!
@Thangchoc2 ай бұрын
SKT/T1 did from 2015-2017 actually… same org. Only team to do it at all, but twice is insane
@reishiki86822 ай бұрын
@@Thangchoc"No team", 2017 they lost MaRin, Duke, Bengi & Easyhoon by that point.
@skrattaoppar97532 ай бұрын
@@ThangchocI think he meant same roster, SKT changed a lot except Faker, Bang, Wolf during that span
@nirvash2412 ай бұрын
Guma picking Varus on game 4 match point on semis three times in a row also need to be studied lmao
@Whales19922 ай бұрын
@@reishiki8682 Pretty much only the top lane really changed. Blank was part of 2016/2017 , and it was still the same Mid and Bot. SKT did really not change that much besides the Top laner being replaces and in 2016 Bengi retired but he was a SUB for Blank at that point anyways.
@ReallyJustAce2 ай бұрын
T1 in game 3 was them releasing their pent-up aggression for losing to them for 2 years straight
@kuyaboben53002 ай бұрын
I am in deep belief that T1 “holds back” in domestic tournaments to not show their power after the “Peanut is a spy” incident lol
@ki9342 ай бұрын
@@kuyaboben5300wtf is the peanut spy incident lmao? 😭 (genuinely asking)
@shikou_melanite2 ай бұрын
I have yet to know what the “Peanut is a Spy incident” is lmao
@kuyaboben53002 ай бұрын
@@ki934 there was a conspiracy that T1 started losing in the 2017 era and above after Peanut joined them because Peanut was paid to be a spy on the team (motivated by the ROX loss against SKT in 2016), spreading info on playstyles, drafts, and weaknesses. That’s why when Peanut joined Gen G is when T1 started losing to Gen G back to back.
@uchihaawo58592 ай бұрын
@@kuyaboben5300 thats bullshit.. most of t1 opponent came from t1 ofcorse they know how t1 works. Let me remind you mata and coach kim is in gengs side what do you expect?
@narutourumqi23362 ай бұрын
it's 4am in australia and i can't stop watching, too hype to fuckin sleep. that was insane
@allgames55562 ай бұрын
Facts I slept at 3 am woke up at 6 and it’s 11 am rn I still haven’t slept 😂
@SonF7y2 ай бұрын
In Korea 4am too. But we can't sleep too 😂😂😂
@konjackonjac52012 ай бұрын
Same here, and I have work tomorrow with a few early morning meetings. I don’t think even melatonin could help lmao
@LaineDavies2 ай бұрын
Hahaha bro I set my alarm for 2am to get up and watch. My flatmates thought I was kidding 😂
@angpham9412 ай бұрын
2h47 AM for me and I just cant stop scrolling through shorts and highlights oh fck
@edmunds10622 ай бұрын
Good teams win when they're expected to. Legendary teams win against all odds. 3rd straight worlds finals for ZOFGK, the storyline is just amazing for T1 vs. BLG. Scriptwriters are cooking 🔥.
@Navue-cn2tx2 ай бұрын
Is BLG good?
@pututunik87482 ай бұрын
@@Navue-cn2tx tbh, they were the first favorite before the swiss stage
@kaihagemann99282 ай бұрын
@@pututunik8748 nah i'd say gen g was most peoples pick, especially since blg went 2-2 in the swiss stage and barely made it to play offs. I think what caused a lot of doubt was the fly gen series
@alpacamix2 ай бұрын
when bro said "Prove it" he literally delivered it, in enemy fountain aswell
@hallelujah83072 ай бұрын
STAND PROUD NA! You gave them the info to ban Smolder
@teasipper52362 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's some Jiraiya shit right there.
@user-qb4on2qm7z2 ай бұрын
I can't beat you but he can type shit.
@pqndagfx11432 ай бұрын
T1 North America
@itsmerota85232 ай бұрын
Your sacrifice will be remembered o7
@jacobkendall98952 ай бұрын
that champion is so ridiculous. Whoever designed it needs to be fired.
@NoTimetoCry2 ай бұрын
T1 is doing the Reverse SKT SKT : 2015, 2016,2017: Champion, Champion, Finalist T1 : 2022, 2023, 2024: Finalist, Champion, Champion? T1: Legends Never Die GEN G: Lehends Always Die Meanwhile Chovy is still farming his CS, and Lehends is still getting CAUGHT. Thank you Flyquest for exposing GEN G Smolder Merchant. NA you are strong.
@jisrite2 ай бұрын
ooo i like that
@fotune85352 ай бұрын
they will do the reverse :)
@DemBigOlEyes2 ай бұрын
The rest of T1 avenging Faker in game 4 is absolutely legendary, comple 'igotchuman' energy.
@RootGroves-hl8kt2 ай бұрын
@@DemBigOlEyes Faker is not any longer the best player in the world and it is being shown but he is still top 3-4 mid.Guma and Keria are SO underated its unreal.Individually they may not be the best but they have amazing synergy and chemistry with each other.Also this series was a supp gap , I will not be suprised if Lehends gets replaced.
@NoTimetoCry2 ай бұрын
@@RootGroves-hl8kt Is not about being the best player in the role when League is a game of 5-man unit. If they have 0 synergy then even the best players will fall.
@AcentAday2 ай бұрын
Faker: All roads lead to me. Past, present and the future.
@LoLBhoppo2 ай бұрын
1:32:59 ISSS GOOOOOOD 🥐🥐
@user-niaprof9302 ай бұрын
구마유시 사랑해
@JonHangdon2 ай бұрын
superstar
@veldt70382 ай бұрын
59:09 GUMA flashing a wall to 1v2 AND FORCE JAX FLASH???? WAT
@FreakyBurgerАй бұрын
Mind game
@justamuartАй бұрын
Mindcontrolled.
@GwynsladleАй бұрын
Guma is a madman, he also facetanked Smolder in game 4 vs BLG.
@pocchidaifukumochiАй бұрын
Mfer wanted another "Guma's just better" moment
@davideboscolo15812 ай бұрын
Crazy to think there is a timeline where after the poby incident this roster doesnt make to world and each one just go on different direction. Glad we are on this One
@RothonJohnInsular2 ай бұрын
"Prove it."🥶🤫-GOAT
@Tkokat2 ай бұрын
Faker dropping one liners every year
@doniherald77452 ай бұрын
the script writer is crazy
@RothonJohnInsular2 ай бұрын
@@Tkokat well,I guess there's nothing to prove. Lol
@NoTimetoCry2 ай бұрын
THANKS CAEDREL FOR SAYING MIKYX OVER KERIA JUST LIKE LAST YEAR. THE ULTIMATE BUFF.
@studentpilotx2 ай бұрын
T1 Keria carries his team to the finals, G2 Mikyx carries his team to the couch.
@DemBigOlEyes2 ай бұрын
And dont forget, Caedral said Mikyx > Keria.
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
Legend say that Caedrel still keep rank Mikyx over Keria 😂😂
@prize95502 ай бұрын
@@gunjb8567I swear if I don't see Keria in top 5 next year, I'm gonna go ballistic
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
@@prize9550 🤣
@Marco-qt5nv2 ай бұрын
Bro☠️☠️☠️
@live2letdie7952 ай бұрын
Guma is MVP of this team. Insane player every game
@tb40762 ай бұрын
Sometimes it really does feel like the second coming of faker. He drew so many bans this series man
@SoulsOnlyАй бұрын
Draws a tonne of bans, constantly put in to 1v2 lanes with Keria permaroaming, and still manages to take even trades and keep up in CS. Absolutely the best ADC for Keria to play with.
@Akeno_72 ай бұрын
T1 had a more fulfilling reaction to beating GenG now than when they clapped WBG last year. If that doesn't say anything, I don't know what will
@Geheimnis-c2e2 ай бұрын
Gen has been their kryptonite for two years. But Gen has also dropped knockouts without ever facing them. They always fell vs LPL teams.
@ginsmyth3342 ай бұрын
The finals last year is so boring that the semis looked more of a finals lmao
@soninh34342 ай бұрын
T1: Don't worry Fly, your sacrifice was not in vain Also SKT T1 Faker to Chovy: If the future is yours, prove it. Also T1 ZOGK to GenG: You want the LCK title? You can have it; You want the MSI title? You can have it; You want the World title after that series over Fly? Over our dead body.
@Marco-qt5nv2 ай бұрын
Its ZOFGK
@peskogt2 ай бұрын
Fly my goats got avenged
@shadowstrike072 ай бұрын
That last line got a chuckle from me lol
@abhisheklokare77982 ай бұрын
The last line is dope.... lol
@KhangNguyen-ij4xh2 ай бұрын
@@peskogtnot even, Fly exposed GenG as the Smolder merchant and they just tagged out for T1. Basically this entire series GenG got double fisted by Fly and T1
@lxr15862 ай бұрын
FINALLY A 5 CHINESE VS 5 KOREAN WORLDS FINALS
@lacarteejay76852 ай бұрын
Knight is a korean
@josuoh98882 ай бұрын
@@lacarteejay7685 No, he's Chinese. Tf are you on?
@pearvar772 ай бұрын
@@lacarteejay7685?????
@-Xenovia2 ай бұрын
Imagine they put rekkless on finals 😂
@lacarteejay76852 ай бұрын
@@josuoh9888 he is? Damn he looks Korean to me 🤣
@Shap3Z2 ай бұрын
I literally called it in the chat. Its T1 vs JDG all over again. 3-1 for T1. I MANIFESTED IT, WE WILL SEE THE ZOFGK FOR ANOTHER YEAR!!!
@gustavoguzman95302 ай бұрын
1:18:03 Man, at the time, I'm sure Faker had flashbacks of the 2017 finals against Samsung Galaxy, getting pinned by Ruler's Varus at the same point, resulting in the end of the T1 dynasty, but also the end of the Faker's mental and high mechanical level. However, after seven years, Faker got his revenge by leading his team to the finals with a fantastic Shurima Shuffle against Ruler's Varus. I had the same feeling with this play, because when it seemed that history would repeat again, it was his team showing their appreciation for their leader, holding on to that fight and winning for their friend. ABSOLUTE CINEMA, let's go for the fifth T1🏆
@desktopi4lvgeg182 ай бұрын
Well said.
@Roflmao61732 ай бұрын
I mean the difference is quite clear, back then Ruler lived from the 1million shields that was popped on him that covered his whole HP bar and this time Peyz died. An ADC flashing for a supportive champion and it being a worthy trade shows how flawed the game was that patch.
@supersonicgood2 ай бұрын
We don't talk about the Ardent meta 😂
@skrattaoppar97532 ай бұрын
@@supersonicgoodArdent was pretty tame compared to ADC + Lane Swap the majority of the year.
@koolkid-d4b2 ай бұрын
What's even bigger is that in their voicecam, everyone thought they wouldn't be able to finish it at the end, but Keria shouted them like no just "follow me!"and his pyke caught the mid
@elliotyun68502 ай бұрын
Where did you hear the voicecomms?
@santiagoarciniegas7222 ай бұрын
@@elliotyun6850in his head
@handlenotaken2 ай бұрын
@@elliotyun6850 lck channel
@koolkid-d4b2 ай бұрын
@santiagoarciniegas722 don't be so sure dude
@koolkid-d4b2 ай бұрын
@elliotyun6850 I don't know why my reply was deleted. Maybe I wrote a time line of it?? It's in LCK live after Guma interviews
@remarker212 ай бұрын
Thank you FlyQuest for exposing GenG's weakness (a.k.a. Ban Smolder every game).
@SammyDebbird2 ай бұрын
Gotta do the same with bin Jax now
@buggus00342 ай бұрын
Can’t Zeus just play gnar into it every game? However you are 100% right, Jax gotta go.
@SammyDebbird2 ай бұрын
@@buggus0034 he def can, but blg will probably ban it in the second ban phase so he gotta pick it early and bin is way less effective on other champ than Jax
@willmollard90782 ай бұрын
@@buggus0034no? Gnar is not that good he’d play gragas or maokai like today.
@reynaldojuaneza79522 ай бұрын
I agree, just ban jax pls
@jong79152 ай бұрын
Faker really outperformed Poby Bryant since getting subbed in last year
@dumbassdude83722 ай бұрын
What's a Poby Bryant to a Michael Jordan
@MrFatikal2 ай бұрын
Didnt he just get subbed because of his injury?
@drcheesecak32 ай бұрын
@@MrFatikalr/whoosh
@KrizzlerYT2 ай бұрын
I can't believe how this game went man, this is unreal. Also after the series, it seems that everyone forgot about GenG 😂 imagine dominating for most of the year and becoming an afterthought so quickly.
@simple456792 ай бұрын
No one in the room wanted to say it, but this is what chovy does every year. Disappointment on the biggest stage
@Klez132 ай бұрын
This line is INSANE, it's crazy to see their history at rock bottom last year, almost disbanding the entire team to be making history AGAIN today...
@kimpecinio70932 ай бұрын
"This is the past, present, and future of both LCK and LoL. If you can't surpass the weight of these eleven years, how can you become legend?" QOUTES IS ON 🔥
@phantomhearts55772 ай бұрын
wait whhen? which part?
@pqndagfx11432 ай бұрын
@@phantomhearts5577 He's referring to HUPU reviews in Game 4
@dinocharlie12 ай бұрын
The Fiddle hover to remind them the absolute FEAR put into them from Flyquest 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@LeMagnifiquePetiteEspirit2 ай бұрын
Lol its funny no one mentioned it
@bassyeyАй бұрын
Haha FlyQuest broke them. They should've hovered Nunu.
@altaccount86792 ай бұрын
Faker's Yone has definitely improved.
@CapstheTrueGOATofLoL6492 ай бұрын
G2 shouldn't have given shelter and trained Trash1 in their house. Trash1 improved, and G2 imploded. Probably, Trash1 bribed G2 in-house staff to steal intel about their game plan and strategy, which was then leaked to others. Who knows? Nothing is impossible for this shady evil organization.
@matthewregular23742 ай бұрын
He got possessed by ZeShy YONE
@joaoleme25352 ай бұрын
1:05:53 faker faked basic attack to mind game canyon into him not flashing Ahri charm
@XtremeSol2 ай бұрын
Yea faker actually uses the s key a lot, and f keys
@monosias2 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Keris used S T F U 😂
@Nick111562 ай бұрын
GenG bought all of good players on each lane just to lose in worlds, seems like their next plan is to buy all T1 Roster.
@supersonicgood2 ай бұрын
Doesn't T1 have a bigger budget? What happens if T1 gets Zeus, Canyon, Chovy, Viper, and a stellar/stable support?
@simple456792 ай бұрын
@@supersonicgoodwhy would T1 buy 4 worse players to play with zeus
@nguyenvu10782 ай бұрын
@@supersonicgoodT1 already had their best players in each roles
@skrattaoppar97532 ай бұрын
@@supersonicgoodyes T1 has the higher budget but it's because their players are high value, whatever they paid T1 will recoup it through sales to the fans. Meanwhile GEN are not only expensive but also non profitable with the exception of Canyon and Chovy. It's hard to sell a team through marketing when Chovy can't beat the allegations of choking.
@Nick111562 ай бұрын
@@supersonicgood Bigger budget because they are paying well, not because they have to overbid other team. Only Keria is not T1 grown talent, but I'm sure he would love to if he had a chance. Meanwhile GenG full roster are just there because of good pay and superteam status. As your comment states, you are already trying to build another superteam around Chovy, No matter what team he gets, he always Chokes. you need to accept that he is the problem. IF faker is the mid for GenG, Surely they would made more achivement than the curreng GenG roster, but he is loyal to T1.
@skrattaoppar97532 ай бұрын
We are so blinded by who gets to achieve the Golden Road first that we forgot no same roster has yet to win Worlds twice and T1 has a chance of a lifetime. And if T1 bested the LPL last year in Knockouts, T1 also has a chance that they will eliminate 3 Super Teams on paper this year. TES with a few former World Champions, GEN Super team and BLG Super team. This is a stat no one will ever beat for a long time if T1 manages to pull this off.
@fobincАй бұрын
I'm just happy T1 as an org did it twice (not same roster but winning back to back worlds)
@ryanjoo13132 ай бұрын
T1 domestically = ❎ T1 internationally = ✅
@nootnooooot2 ай бұрын
T1's aura is insaaaaane after they've beaten BLG on the swiss stage. I knew on that moment after they've beaten two of the teams most powerful laners on their main champs that T1 will be back on the finals.
@HmoobXican2 ай бұрын
ZOFGK really greatest roster of ALL TIME
@CapstheTrueGOATofLoL6492 ай бұрын
Nah, that's 2019 G2. The 2019 G2 roster is the greatest roster of all time. Wunder= greatest top we have ever seen Jankos= greatest jungle we have ever seen Caps= greatest mid/player we have ever seen Perkz= greatest ADC we have ever seen Mikyx= greatest sup we have ever seen
@cryogelatin19522 ай бұрын
@@CapstheTrueGOATofLoL649 bro.... sure
@jeremyexpiritu56682 ай бұрын
@CapstheTrueGOATofLoL649 this is what mental illness looks like. poor dog.
@takatakarin272 ай бұрын
@@CapstheTrueGOATofLoL649 your clownery used to be funny at least, now it's just cringe and annoying.
@CapstheTrueGOATofLoL6492 ай бұрын
@@cryogelatin1952 thanks bro.
@lukenepomuceno44912 ай бұрын
Ain't it funny how irony works? The casters were talking about GenG and T1's history as SKT and SSG. In 2017, SSG (Specifically Ruler) flash+ulted Faker and then Faker died with his team crumbling. 7 years later, GenG basically flash+ulted Faker again but ZOGK was able to win them the game. This might actually be the best set of players the LoL eSports scene has ever seen.
@뚜비뚜밥-d9x2 ай бұрын
19살에 팬이됐고 서른살에도 여전히 t1 팬입니다. 나의 10대도 20대도 30대도 함께해줘서 고마워 Faker
@user-sd9bh3yv7t2 ай бұрын
이새끼야
@outtahere792 ай бұрын
Imagine if Gen G didn't show their hand in Game 5 against FLY and Smolder went unbanned. I think T1 fans might actually need to thank NA.
@Geheimnis-c2e2 ай бұрын
And that game vs Ahri and Nocturne, we have G2 to thank for that.
@jasonseasons11922 ай бұрын
Gen has shown their last hand in the FLY series. Banning Smolder and that Ksante ban at the end really helped.
@jetherarroz11182 ай бұрын
And we have Geng fans saying they didn't reveal their hand but it clearly shows that chovy is a freaking smolder merchant.
@tehAmbi2 ай бұрын
@@jasonseasons1192 Is it really a matter of pick here or just players like Lehends not performing and mostly griefing the games ? I dont know in my opinion GEN had that game 4 but Peyz Lehends botched the last fight. If you go game 5 you can never know what both team prepared.
@choadao29122 ай бұрын
@@tehAmbi lehends has been playing like that ever since worlds started tho 😂 it's chovys responsibility to set that straight but he couldn't
@Geheimnis-c2e2 ай бұрын
I never understood Chovy's absolute insistence on spamming Grasp on every champion he played. Faker was going for glass cannon pages except for the Yone game. His Akali didn't even have Fleet vs Ahri
@ShyartiN2 ай бұрын
korea is too focused on plan a meta
@amritutorials41362 ай бұрын
chovy a good player that care too much about his kda thats why u dont see him start some plays feels like he play forhimself more
@Lookatthisguy00172 ай бұрын
It's to win early lane with faker I think game 2 and 3 he gap faker in exp and cs. That's why ceadrel say chovy is lvl 15 while faker is lvl 13 despite winning+kills
@itsgonnabeokay93412 ай бұрын
@@Lookatthisguy0017 He plays ranged into melee, ofc he gonna be up in cs and exp. Faker was still more useful.
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
@@Lookatthisguy0017Choky keep farming while Faker running around the map to try to make a play for his team and lead T1 to win
@himurakenshinbattousai16702 ай бұрын
Gen.G : let's kill the Faker guy. ZOGK : how dare u touch our icon !!! that's it let's kick their ass outta here.... T1 fans : tears on their eyes....love ZOFGK ❤❤❤ T1 Fighting !!!
@nickhow1204Ай бұрын
2023 Faker : The Fourth Trophy is for my teammate. 2024 Zeus/Oner/Guma/Keria : The Fifth Trophy is for Faker
@SilverCraft159872 ай бұрын
Win against geg is so big for the T1 story. The only org who had their number for 2 years, 2 YEARS. Some folks even called their last year win 'geng avoidance' and the manner they DISMANTLED GenG was crazy. Now the story for the finals is crazy, i cant wait for the finals man.
@semitemos17272 ай бұрын
imo peanut is the main factor of Geng dominance over T1. He always knows how to make Oner and Keria look like idiots. But today it is a jung diff tbh
@haemogoblin70062 ай бұрын
Do not forget about supp diff too
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
And thos GenG fraud fans keep saying that Last year T1 was lucky to evade GenG in world. This year EWC is just mickey mouse cup. Easy path easy win when they facing T2 in semi final Fraud GenG deserved loss 😂
@SachiAi2 ай бұрын
@@haemogoblin7006 don't forget the adc gap too game 2 peyz is just lucky
@grrumakemeangry2 ай бұрын
@@semitemos1727 yeah peanut is goated, if doran and viper and zeka to some extent also delight didnt get gapped so hard by their counterparts in their series against blg peanut might have won worlds. peanut was the only one playing better than his counterpart, xun.
@Hans-yt1ky2 ай бұрын
T1 has returned. Queue the music, Gods by New Jeans
@MrDespisedIcon2 ай бұрын
Perfect song to describe the team
@AtheenaOrca2 ай бұрын
1:18:04 They literally tried to go for the Demon King's Crown without knowing that his Knights ain't just gonna let that slide, Heavy is the Crown 👑
@Gwynnnnnnnnnnnnnnn2 ай бұрын
59:00 THAT MINION IS A PAID ACTOR, WHAT A DODGE.
@zaidhakim64962 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 but i think the reason is minion catch the glimpse of oner first while zeus flasing, so that why its dodging
Guma on Varus game 4 match point on semis too also if game goes to game 5 then just go back to sleep or something cause 100% BLG is winning lmao OFGK got 2-3 2021 DK, ZOFGK got 2-3 2022 by DRX
@chomosuke07202 ай бұрын
@@lucyj7095 WBG beating BLG last year didn't seem realistic either
@kocxghost2 ай бұрын
Faker saw the angle in the last game, the sacrifice for a spot in the finals.
@unname123-12 ай бұрын
도파민에 취해서 하이에나처럼 돌아다니는 티원 팬은 모여라
@YeongTaeYu2 ай бұрын
지금머리아픔 시발
@정의-f7e2 ай бұрын
리 폭딸 중
@대겸-x2d2 ай бұрын
헥헥헥 침흘리며 돌아다니는 티원팬 개추!!
@HeliumHelios2 ай бұрын
한화팬인데 잠을 못자겠어요 선생님 심장이 뛰어요
@SonF7y2 ай бұрын
도파민 내놔
@nevinlama47552 ай бұрын
i NEEDED this caedrel vid to drop immediately
@mykellederickpalad78832 ай бұрын
Man Faker is so wAsHeD that he's looking fresher than chovy at 30. Where the fruck are the haters?Last year they were hating so bad even when T1 was demolishing everyone.
@grrumakemeangry2 ай бұрын
Fr
@konradalexander71342 ай бұрын
only reason I’ve ever hated t1 is because this roster has been able to stay together for years even after their shaky first 2 seasons. Other orgs with less money don’t have that luxury. Obviously they are an amazing team
@supersonicgood2 ай бұрын
As T1 said, pressure makes diamonds - toxic fans/haters, DDoS, Faker's wrist injury, etc. - the plot writes itself.
@eclipsingshadows54212 ай бұрын
Because it’s clear that even if Faker isn’t as sharp mechanically, his aura, insane shot calling, and deep game knowledge are what Faker brings BEYOND being a good mid laner. And that’s invaluable. The “world’s buff” is no longer a meme-it’s 100% real. Faker always making semis; making 3 Finals in a row, a possible 2 Finals wins in a row….5 Worlds for Faker…there’s just nothing to hate, he is the GOAT definitively.
@harsimransingh85092 ай бұрын
@@konradalexander7134they all started on t1 and developed in t1 system. It has nothing to do with money. They want to play together. Simple as that. They are likely earning less than they could on other teams apart from faker.
@typicallatenightgamer71222 ай бұрын
BLG: Finally after so much work, me made it to the finals for the fist and maybe the last time. This is one and only chance to win the worlds cup. T1: "Guess who's back, back again?"
@hugz4genestealers2 ай бұрын
Faker really is this primordial creature that is sealed away most of the year, only being truly awoken by the prayers of his cult during the world championship.
@grrumakemeangry2 ай бұрын
In spring split faker is usually the best lck mid as well. Its just summer and sometimes msi
@TwoWaySai2 ай бұрын
T1 got Real Madrid levels of devil magic when they arrive in Worlds 😭
@lukoshko55602 ай бұрын
In the last fight i just missed Peyz. Literally couldn't saw Ashe on my screen. It tooks me 3 replays to actually get how Oner have killed him. This scarner's ult and and pyke's W won that game.. wtf? How could Peyz been so bad in positioning. Just watch Guma's Ashe in first game, and u will see who is a best ADC in the world RN. Is goooooood
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
And T1's hater fans and GenG fanboys keep boasting that he(Peyz) is best ADC in the world (now they are all disappeared)
@lukoshko55602 ай бұрын
@@gunjb8567 true
@ronlanders73542 ай бұрын
@@lukoshko5560 lehends and peyz terrible this series, it's insane
@supersonicgood2 ай бұрын
Peyz, the lucky rookie who has some fraud energy, is finally exposed.
@ChonkyBoi_yt2 ай бұрын
geng fans ranked Peyz no.1 guma isn't even top 5 on their list
@grunerfaden52232 ай бұрын
Honestly, i have tears in my eyes after seeing Keria after they won. Holy ****. This guy is on the edge of his capacities. What a performance. Huge respect for this guys!
@reishiki86822 ай бұрын
"Gen.G locked in for Finals, after all no more Doran & Peanut to int them out" Lehends : 😅
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
Choky : 😂😂😂 you underestimate my invisible farming 😅
@Nick111562 ай бұрын
Yeh, every time Chovy lose, it's his teammate fault and not him :) No matter how many times his teammate gets replaced. It's always them, never been Chovy trying to farm while faker is massacring his teammate :) If you didn't get it, Huge mid dif.
@JF0982 ай бұрын
Man, Lehends really underperforned. Would hate to be him today.
@Shreddasaurus2 ай бұрын
@@Nick11156its so funny, Faker carried several shit players to finals and trophies in his prime, Chovy could never.
@erichong47862 ай бұрын
@@Nick11156having a high cs and level lead is all lane mechanics. But lane mechanics and high IQ are two different things.
@SpicyPanda12 ай бұрын
Another match I will be watching for years, T1 world buff is crazy, they are like 5 superheroes, anyone of them can solo turn a lost game
@GhostMan4072 ай бұрын
flyquest, my hero
@beckerguilherme2 ай бұрын
1:19:31 Caedrel: “They did it, they did it 🥰” 1:19:39 Also Caedrel: “HOW TF THEY ALWAYS DO IT?!?! 🤬🤬🤬” Peak series, peak T1, peak Caedrel! Also props to FlyQuest for making GenG doubt themselves after almost winning their BO5 against them.
@야미2t2 ай бұрын
Faker has two months left until he turns 30. -goat-
@seishin42432 ай бұрын
I guess in the KR system, if not, he has till 2025, May to turn 29.
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
No he has 2 month left until 29 in Korean system
@supersonicgood2 ай бұрын
Korean here, technically the S. KR Govt is trying to scrap the "kr age," but the kr age does increase every new year instead of one's birthday.
@silversekai95232 ай бұрын
Faker's birthday is in May 7th how is that 2 months?
@SocLadakh2 ай бұрын
@@silversekai9523In Korea, if you are born on December 31st, you will be 2 years old the next day
@Jruyios2 ай бұрын
has to be the most insane international chemistry between ZOGFK, i was at work so i didn’t get to watch but im so fucking happy T1 made it to their 3rd finals in a row, at world they are so unmatched, FIGHTING
@JF0982 ай бұрын
The DISRESPECT to kill a man in his own fountain 🤣
@Slingyman32 ай бұрын
They are just different man all the losses the scrim score all out the window, when the pressure is on T1 is different.
@Mavkor2 ай бұрын
You need to stop calling zeus Rat Boy and call him Rat King now. put some respect for setting the tone on the first dive of the game
@grrumakemeangry2 ай бұрын
Every year the same shit, people not putting faker as top one on their garbage tierlist just for faker to end up in worlds finals as always xdddd
@BlackDeathBlade2 ай бұрын
While I'm happy to see T1 performing so well and finally crushing their demons in Gen G, I do feel bad for Chovy. It really looked like Chovy would finally lift a summoner's cup but it looks like the T1 worlds buff was too strong even for him. The difference in macro this series(as well as an astro gap in the support role) really defined how this would play out. It's also satisfying to see Guma's world class form come alive once again. Peyz's lack of experience on the international stage is really biting him in the ass and Lehends might have had his worst series this whole year. MSI is a great win for Gen G, but even if you call MSI a "harder" tournament to win, Worlds will always be the most important tournament of the year. As for the finals, I don't really mind who wins this time around. I think T1 proved their class time and time again and them winning worlds last year already was enough for me for various reasons and seeing them win again would solidify their legacy as the best League team of all time. The cherry on top for T1 being that they home grew their roster for the most part. For BLG, I like Bin and Knight as players and seeing them win worlds would be sweet as well. China having a full Chinese roster win a world championship for the first time would be cool to see also.
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
MSI never be harder tournament. Its just mid year event.Wolrd is hardest tournament because every player and every team want to win biggest tournament so the preparation level is on another level if you compare world to MSI. It just excuse from team/player that cant win world😅
@banuttyy2 ай бұрын
chovy is fraudulent 😹😹
@theflash2062 ай бұрын
@@gunjb8567 correct 💯
@koy78962 ай бұрын
As much as I love this GenG roster, because of how much they achieved, they had an amazing year and they played incredible. But I think they need to split up. Canyon seems to enjoy a more skirmish heavy playstyle and current GenG is all about controlling macro and winning with gold in the late game. Chovy perma farms and it works for him, but I feel like canyon just gets bored with this kind of playstyle. He's of course really good at it tho, don't get me wrong, he's not the problem, but I want to see him fight early on, invade and play for dives. Peyz however, I think he needs to leave ASAP, his growth is getting affected by GenG, since he joined the roster he hasn't really been pushed to get better, you can say this kind of games help, but this happens once in a long time, GenG is always winning and Peyz doesn't need to carry a game by himself, like all other ADC's have been doing and have learned to do. I don't think he should be playing 1v9 but I think he should learn to do it, and GenG is not a place to do it. Lehends trolled but his playstyle and calls are the essence of GenG, I don't think a bad series merits a player just leaving the roster, his playstyle is GenG's playstyle. And when Lehends is having a bad game is GenG having a bad game.
@supersonicgood2 ай бұрын
T1 has great options if their Jgl/Mid/ADC/Sup decide to go their separate ways. I think only Canyon from GenG should join T1, though.
@simple456792 ай бұрын
Chovy should learn to make plays. Permafarming while your team is getting slaughtered is not it at worlds.
@nguyenvu10782 ай бұрын
Exactly this the reason canyon left showmaker is because SM start turning into this type of midlaner and canyon got so bored If chovy doesnt change his style or his mindset and only focus on chovying the farthest i see he goes is just lck no more than that
@orz55972 ай бұрын
Chovy needs to have that clutch factor. When the chips are down and your team is behind, he needs to step up especially since he is good mechanically. You'll see that every mid laner that won worlds have this factor, heck even caps have this and it usually gives the team a breathing room to scale some more
@lxr15862 ай бұрын
LPL slayers vs LCK slayers finals banger
@jaysonranilo16932 ай бұрын
Dude Faker just tell chovy that he's the Boss by killing him at his fountain lols
@Akeno_72 ай бұрын
2023: Faker makes the greatest Azir play of all time to bring them the win, cementing him as the biggest piece in T1 that without him, they are still young 2024: T1 win a 4v5 teamfight after Faker dies, showing to the King himself that they can handle themselves
@TheOpytimusEX2 ай бұрын
It's incredible, i don´t know what to say. I hoped something would happen. I mean, HOW THOUGH? Imagine being Gengs child for years straight, but the moment it truly mattered, they did it? 4Th seed, they were so close to not even make into Worlds. But here we are, finalists 3 years in a row....Absolute LEGENDS! 10 Years watching every Worlds since 2014. And since 2015 a huge Faker fan. Not once in my wildest dreams i thought i would see something like this happen again, i so out of words. T1 FIGHTING!
@hojelee_zzzАй бұрын
Faker’s Ahri is just BUILT DIFFERENT Such a blessing to watch his Ahri
@YoshimiMilk2 ай бұрын
Faker eats broccoli Gumayusi eats croissant PEAK League of Legends
@Ovinski2 ай бұрын
T1 haters tears are delicious.
@웅냥냥-g7uАй бұрын
ABSOLUTELY
@markmyers8491Ай бұрын
Faker diving Nexus and getting the kill while LIVING is just *chefs kiss*
@kuyaboben53002 ай бұрын
That last fight was ABSOLUTE CINEMA WTF. It was so reminiscent of Ruler’s flash ult on faker but this time, Faker’s teammates had his back with full force
@tb40762 ай бұрын
Faker's global taunt coming in clutch in that last game as usual lmao
@greenindigo34962 ай бұрын
Bro dropped the vid 9 mins ago and it's 10k views already. RATS ARMY is insane
@vibino82632 ай бұрын
Choovy and Peyz play really well when they’re ahead, but they struggle a lot when they’re behind. Choovy doesn’t have that aggressive, "never give up" mentality; he tends to play more cautiously. This is just based on his performance at Worlds though-he’s usually pretty strong in the LCK.
@isaacyim5362 ай бұрын
BLG vs T1 in the finals as a T1 fan I’m scared but got a lot more confidence after this series
@allgames55562 ай бұрын
I’m predicting 3:1 t1
@markangeloporcare52892 ай бұрын
@@allgames5556 screw that we going for silver scrapes 3-2 T1
@yonkai91292 ай бұрын
Bro what you mean you are scared, worlds was over as soon as T1 defeated Gen.g
@allgames55562 ай бұрын
@@markangeloporcare5289 with the way their playing I don’t see a 3:2 tbh
@mephistopheles85811 сағат бұрын
Before 2024 ends, we just gotta watch T1 run on Worlds. Made my fucking whole year baby
@lunkigojo76322 ай бұрын
Te debate is over, Chovy became another Ruler and Faker adopt him 🐐
@gunjb85672 ай бұрын
🐐🐐
@alexsalas84902 ай бұрын
Don't disrespect Ruler comparing him with choky, at least Ruler is a World champion something choky will never achieve