The Cliff Dwellers (Fremont Indians) - Nine Mile Canyon, Utah

Nine Mile Canyon is a great place for exploration and provides opportunities for everyone, despite how adventurous you may be. The main road that winds through the canyon provides many opportunities to view and photograph petroglyph sites.
If you want to see the really cool stuff, you will have to hike and explore the Main Canyon and many adjacent side canyons. Be careful, the rim's and cliff faces of the canyon are very steep.
When I was a kid, we would sometimes camp here and bring our horses. We were more adventurous (reckless) back then and discovered some amazing sites. One site in particular that continues to elude me. I've searched and searched for it, but can't seem to find it. Maybe next time.
Special thanks to Daniel Lowe for his contribution to this video. Daniel has an amazing website and has done an amazing job documenting sites around the Southwest. Here is a link to his website. www.tuscoro.com
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[@karenc8028]

My parents took us camping in Nine Mile every spring when I was young. The roads were dirt back then and really rough in some areas. We always brought our jeeps. We would camp for three days and only see the ranchers and their kids. My brother and sister and I would climb like mountain goats and go exploring. I saw a mountain lion and lots of scorpions and almost stepped on a rattler once. It was very wild country back then. When I had kids, we took them there. The roads were still dirt but the gas trucks were constantly driving through. I taught my boys to look and not touch the petroglyphs and to always respect the original peoples of that canyon just like my Mom taught me. It's a powerful place. You have seen some really cool things that I have not. I hope to find them someday.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Did your mom and dad's names begin with (K & D) and last name (R)? If so I think we may have went camping with you guys on a few occasions. I know exactly what you are talking about regarding the canyon being a dirt road and a lot more quiet back then. Although the canyon gets more traffic now, the old sites rarely get explored or discovered. I've sat on the high cliffs above and watched the people down below. They rarely venture more than a few feet from their vehicles and usually only view the petroglyphs along the road marked by the BLM with road signs. We used to explore the canyon and surrounding area on our horses when I was growing up. The area to the North is all named after my mom's uncle; Pete's ridge, Pete's Wash and etc. He herded sheep all his life in that part of the country. When I was a kid we found a large rock (about the size of a small house) surrounded by sagebrush and grass. There was a small natural cave under the rock and we crawled into it. The dirt under the rock had been hollowed out by the Cliff Dwellers and there were natural pockets formed into the sandstone rock. They had used these pockets to store their corn. These pockets were still filled with piles of corn that was over 1,000 years old. We were just kids and spent only a few minutes exploring the site and then moved on to find other stuff. We were lucky none of us ever fell off the cliffs. I've searched and searched for that rock but can't find it as an adult. If you ever find anything that matches this description please let me know. Thanks.

[@marsham23]

Thank you for sharing! I was born and raised in the area and have been out there dozens of times. But I have never been able to go up along the sides to hike. That is on my bucket list for this summer! Amazing footage of amazing remnants of the past!

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Thank you Marsha for the comment. I love Nine Mile and still believe there is stuff undocumented to discover. If you ever find something cool, let me know and we will document it.

[@palmplanet]

Love this video, thanks for showing some of the wonders of this magical place, I really hope to visit there some day!

[@LowBudgetExploration]

I hope you get a chance someday, it is truly beautiful!

[@palmplanet]

@@LowBudgetExploration Thanks, and thanks for the great video!

[@lawrencecole6527]

That wiggly line was the hum in the air.

[@robertmclean9737]

Was there in the Late 60s and Sevenths Had a Background in Rock Climbing, so did my Friend. Rappeled into some of the Cliff Dwelling and Grainires was Careful not to Damage or Remove Objects. The Grainires were neat carefully lined with Rocks and Mud. They had lids on them made of Mud and Reinforced with Willows. You could see Hand Prints in the Mud. Many of them were full of Corn Cobs. I heard later the Oilfield came there and Much of it was Vandilized. It Should have been Protected Years ago!!

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Thank you for sharing your experience (I'm very envious). I was really concerned when they paved the old dirt road down in the main canyon and Utah started promoting the site for tourism. It must not have worked out like they planned, most times when I visit Nine Mile I don't see anybody, besides the occasional oil field worker traveling through. I've sat up on the high cliffs and watched the tourist down below as they travel through the canyon and they rarely walk very far from their vehicles and stick to the designated sites, where the BLM has placed signs for them to view petroglyphs. If this trend continues, I think a lot of the sites will be protected for now from the idiots. One of my dad's best friends grew up on one of the ranches in the canyon and he has some amazing stories!!! Trust me, there are still discoveries to be made in this canyon complex.

[@robertmclean9737]

@@LowBudgetExploration Thank you for the Great Videos, grew up in Vernal so I am familiar with some of the same areas in your Videos. Have you ever been to McConkie Ranch? If not you need to check out the Glyps there. Have one Panel called the Three Kings that was on the Cover of National Geographic in the 60s it is Really Something. Keep up the Great Work!

[@LowBudgetExploration]

@@robertmclean9737 I've been there many times, it is my favorite spot. I try to do videos of "out of the way and remote" areas people normally would never see, but I think I'm going to make an exception for McConkie Ranch. Thank you for watching the videos.

[@stephenolson532]

Look a shuttle craft from the Federation 🤤

[@leighsayers2628]

Fabulous ..loved this video... From Australia

[@OkieDokie680]

I’d crap little green apples to see this in person. It would be so cool to have this on your land. Such history! Thanks for sharing!

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Awesome brother. I want people to see this stuff, who would otherwise not have the opportunity. Glad you enjoyed.

[@natethedesertmaster8529]

Make sure to wear a diaper if you do come

[@OkieDokie680]

@@natethedesertmaster8529 I’m old so diapers are probably in my future anyways lol. I doubt I’d ever get to see them in person unfortunately.

[@natethedesertmaster8529]

@@OkieDokie680 I hope you do get to see them

[@ToddiGreat-le2qu]

Drumming never ends !!!! NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@stratocaster1greg]

I make marbles from Red Horn Coral from the mountains of Utah. Have made at least 60 so far. Sir your videos are fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Very cool!

[@DanAdair-ot9ge]

Awesome video.

[@rodwoods2108]

Good look at part of Nine Mile!

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Thank you Rod.

[@systemicxdesign]

Or war of the worlds Definitely looks strange and alien for sure

[@chuckzehnder530]

Great job!

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Thanks Chuck. Glad you enjoyed the video.

[@Insideoutie]

They all jumped off the cliff to get away from that drumming.

[@carolnorton2807]

The shrieking flutes don't help much either.

[@glennquagmire1747]

Those Indians certainly had no fear of hights.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Yep, I have found them up in places where I have no idea how they safely got to them. I imagine many of the small children and elderly fell from the cliffs.

[@ToddiGreat-le2qu]

I'll say that surprisingly few fell

[@jimmyglea]

The descendants of the Puebloan people would be quite shocked to find their ancestors were “driven to extinction”. Also, evidence does not suggests the people lived high in the cliffs because of other native tribes.

[@ourgranny3518]

Many of them are recent,that’s too bad someone mess it up🥺

[@robertmclean9737]

A Trick I learned to Shoot Panels with a DSLR is to Shoot them as A Pano. Take two or three Shots with Good Lens. Go Home and Stitch It Together You get real fine Detail and you can see the Whole Panel in one Detailed Photo. Cheers?

[@HugoRamirez-k8g]

The.circle with rays is a direction of something Hidden there folow the thick ray

[@thorn2497]

🤔💭the alien depiction glyph is a train. You can see the tracks below. The train is a front view of the Engine, the smokestack on top, smoke coming from the side. Look at some old pictures of steam engines, you'll see! Try to find glyphs with 6 fingered beings also some that look like dinosaurs. There are several that look like t-rex.

[@12TribesUnite]

Found some mountain-size paintings like these in china ...

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Very cool.

[@12TribesUnite]

@@LowBudgetExploration Thanks!

[@josephjohnson9805]

Wow vision quest boxes that are barely desiccated... In pretty good shape...

[@ToddiGreat-le2qu]

I saw that movie

[@alpineflauge909]

sweet

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Used Condom, thank you for the comment and unique user name. I always get a laugh when I see it. I will have more coming out this year, hopefully soon.

[@fittekowner]

nice documentary work, sad to see some of the vandalism and destruction and yes painting a no trespassing sign over historical art qualifies as just that.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Thanks Fittekowner. I heard the guy who spray painted over the burial site did get in trouble for committing this careless act. I know a lot of local people were furious when he did it.

[@mandyhall8278]

Awesome!

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Thanks Mandy and glad you enjoyed it.

[@chrisbuffum4835]

You are totally wrong! They became the Hopi and Zuni and Pueblo Indians. The Anasazi came from the south and enslaved a lot of cliff dwellers. Then they had a slave revolt and together with the remaining pueblo natives wiped out the Anasazi. The Navajo have the oral history of this available to anyone who wants to seek factual history. We do know where they went that is not disputed.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Chris, I agree with everything you say and I also closely follow the teachings found on "Traditional Navajo Teaching's". I love watching that channel. What they put out is probably true for down where they live, but the area I am filming is far to the north. When the trappers, explorers and pioneers first started entering this part of Utah, they asked the local Indians "Who lived in these structures so long ago and what happened to them?" They were told the men were killed off and the remaining women and children were rounded up and driven into the Green River where they drowned. It was an extinction type event. History can be very cruel.

[@JoshuaMoreno-dv6ek]

It's funny that no one asked the natives of their own history, and why don't we ask the natives of the meaning of the rock art ,just sto stupid .

[@mjade1673]

🫶🥺 ty

[@azcowgal5837]

10:35 That archer has a tail? 9:37 I'm no expert but that looks like aliens and a space ship to me.

[@rockyperez2828]

At 8:39 those 2 being look like Ant People notice how the bodies towards the bottom is narrowing then spreads out just like an Ant

[@LowBudgetExploration]

AZ CowGal, I and many other people, tend to agree with you.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

Archer is disguised as an animal ??

[@BrianDoherty-e8s]

Good video, but the flute and drum "music" is going to give nightmares of being accidentally locked in a NPS Visitor's Center overnight.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

LOL, in hind-site I probably should have mixed it up a bit. Glad you still enjoyed it.

[@m1meichle]

Is there a way to purchase the music?

[@LowBudgetExploration]

I found the music on youtube, but don't recall what the song was called. I probably typed something like, "American Indian Drum Music" or something like that. Sorry I don't have better info for you, good luck.

[@JamesJones-cx5pk]

I would imagine that many petroglyphs were destroyed by rivals or others over 1000 years. Many are probably in pieces at the bottom of the rock face. Maybe some could be pieced back together.👍

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Hi James. What I have observed over the years is they would etch over one another's symbols. They never removed the symbol because this would destroy the rock patina and oxidation, making it impossible to make another carving. The Utes' were notorious for doing this. I have even saw where they carved over Spanish markings. They routinely put their symbols over Fremont Indian petroglyphs. Almost as an ancient "F You" to the Fremont. LOL.

[@rockyperez2828]

At 10:33 I see a man fixing to shoot a elk with his bow and arrow, but what kind of man has a tail like a Cat

[@LowBudgetExploration]

I always wonder what the artist was trying to convey. I guess that always adds to the mystery and makes it fun. Too bad we will never know for sure.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

A disguise??

[@carlton4610]

What are those exclamation point symbols ?? Never seen anything like those ! It makes me think of The hidden Mess by Louis Lamour . Areas like these containing a portal...or portals to other planets or other times..

[@soxpeewee]

Exclamation point looks more like a staff or arrow

[@rockyperez2828]

At 22:17 does anybody else see the picture of the GALAXY, only way to see a galaxy is with a telescope so how did they see them without the use of a telescope, I think the alien visitations one or more where taken aboard a spaceship and went fore a ride otherwise how would they know how to draw them. These depictions of galaxies are all over the U.S.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

I have a video titled, "Ancient Portals". I think you will enjoy it.

[@AlreadyImmortal]

Well, there's always astral travel... as well as extra terrestrial visitors..and much more I'm sure...expand your consciousness....

[@yupperdude1]

Man, the music was a bit of a distraction. Petroglyphs were awesome tho

[@azcowgal5837]

I think 'Equal to any' was what was meant or maybe 'Without equal'?

[@chrisk7626]

Does anybody else feel like liberating hue City😂

[@johnirby493]

I keep looking for Charles Bronson.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

I know the movie your talking about, but the name eludes me.

[@damongulick3497]

I really appreciate this but it leaves me wanting for good overviews of the sites. Just constructive criticism. If you would just lift that camera a bit when you hike in. Were just looking at dirt.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

I understand and can relate. The reason I do it that way is to protect the sites. Many people use google earth to try and find the sites I film, this helps keep them from using geological landmarks to identify specific locations. When people find these old sites, they tend to share the locations and its just a matter of time before the site becomes vandalized and/or disturbed by "Pot Hunters" and such.

[@wishmire33]

The comments section says the beating drums never stop...I'm out of here...torture music...

[@docinparadise]

Your opening history info is in direct contradiction to kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWK4Y3qmZ8mnhJIsi=G-rgDHdlnCs0WXPL Who says the ancient Pueblo and and the cliff dwellers (phonetically called dineck) were in this area long before the Anasazi, who are the ones who went extinct. The Anasazi never lived in the cliff dwellings. They were slavers who …well let’s just say they were bad folks. Watch the short video for the story) and the people rose up against them and murdered every last one of them, so there can be no ancestors of the Anasazi. Anyway, the people of the dineck (spelled wrong but that’s how it sounds) eventually moved down onto the ground, abandoning their cliff dwellings. It’s a super interesting video of a native elder telling the oral tradition of his people. Highly recommended.

[@LowBudgetExploration]

I'm familiar with him and love his teachings. However, the area in my video (Nine Mile Canyon) is a totally different geographical area, much further to the North. History is full of many moving parts and is most definitely not a "One size fits all" event. Just so you know, the Hopi Indians (I used to work with many), most definitely disagree with his teachings. That being said, I tend agree with him and his version of Chaco Canyon. I base my understanding on my ancestors (the Mormon pioneers) who were told by the local Ute Indians back in the 1800's that their ancestors drove all the men, woman and children of the Cliff Dwellers into the Green River. The Cliff Dwellers were basically exterminated.

[@natethedesertmaster8529]

Found bodies??? Where’s the dna test results???

[@LowBudgetExploration]

Reckless people back in the early 20th century plundered the entire canyon. They were looking for artifacts to take to the World Fair in Chicago. If I remember correctly, around that time is when the bodies were dug up. The artifacts were sold off to wealthy collectors, I'm not sure where the bodies ended up. So called "Archeologist", would hire local ranchers to show them where all the "good stuff" was to be found. The Great Depression was raging on and these ranchers were happy for the extra money. That's all I know.