The Cold Medicine Killer: The Case Of Lauren Hugelmaier

[@josiem9248]

123 STAB WOUNDS?!!! that’s just pure evil. taking a innocent women’s life. disgusting.

[@PrincessPeyten]

josie morris Omg I know right so he stabbed her 123 times I never heard of that many stab wounds that’s just nasty af🥺🥺🥺

[@MithrilMagic]

Yes! How do you not know you stabbed someone 123 times?! Even if you’re “high”. That’s so messed up! And he is SO FAKE! His mom sounds like a real treat too. Her poor family. Just horrible!

[@SuperAries1985]

123 STAB WOUND, DIDNT WANT TO GIVE HER A CHANCE HUH! It’s a Detroit Become Human quote pls don’t attack me

[@jenniferblackmon7037]

@@MithrilMagic showing up to the party in a white dress and all... My heart breaks for Lauren for sure!

[@kirstengidon662]

123? Omfg 😕

[@jordannahgalea9506]

I feel so bad for her father. How distressing knowing his gut had told him something was off about this guy, and then this happens and he couldn't do anything about it. Heartbreaking.

[@marcellina4270]

Omg , same 😞

[@mkchristner]

I feel for both of her parents, seeing them talk about her was just heartbreaking 😢

[@jordannahgalea9506]

@@mkchristner oh absolutely not taking anything away from the mother and I feel terrible for her too. It's just mentioned how the father had a bad gut feeling and that must be the worst thing as a parent to be proven right on that feeling

[@mkchristner]

Jordannah Galea O sorry if it sounded like that, I actually see what you’re saying and totally agree! I just teared up and had a moment of empathy for them. It’s true, he definitely had his intuition on point with him!

[@williss1192]

If a guy likes all your photos then you know something up. Even from all 'family' photos of him I can feel something off. The dad was smart. I don't know if he should blame himself or not though

[@saramarlena7184]

Home girl had 3 dang jobs and he didn’t wanna work!? Ugh! That makes me so annoyed! What POS

[@jaghond448]

Reminds me of Susan Powell

[@nicholasschoonbeck6866]

The sad thing is, that's pretty normal these days. My daughter included, most of the women I know in relationships reach a point of acceptance like this man is not everything I want, but I guess its an ok mix of good things & the bad things I can handle. I went to her house a few days ago to spend time with my grandkids, & she said sorry about the mess. One of the biggest issues I saw was multiple shopping bags that just hadn't been unpacked. I always clean up, do all the dishes there are, & I unpacked all the bags. I mentioned today that I don't get how her bf can be there, see the bags like I did & it doesn't occur to him to put stuff away. She said, yeah, we're working on that. What is there to work on?

[@haleyminer22]

This is a really common things with abusers, they make it so they rely on you and you feel less likely to leave

[@Kriistall7]

@@nicholasschoonbeck6866 That's sad 😥 nobody should have to settle for a man child

[@nicholasschoonbeck6866]

@@Kriistall7 Yeah, its pretty pathetic how resistant men are to growth, even though they feel so threatened about their manhood all the time. There seems to be some disconnect between what a man should be like or do & the things they should be doing are somehow not that. I went to my daughter's house the other day to see my grandkids while she was working & I cleaned up a bit for her, did the dishes, etc & there was 4 different shopping bags with food items that hadn't been put away & I'm astounded that her bf lives there & it never occurred to him to just put that stuff away. I said so to my daughter & she said, "Yeah, we're working on that." As if its a struggle to make him understand that helping is good.

[@jessicamedina949]

My little sister was murdered at 19 and I'll never forgive the person who did it. Some things just aren't forgivable and murder is one of them.

[@isabella-zm9qf]

I’m so sorry for your loss

[@emmidjam2307]

So sorry for your loss ♥️

[@sharatainx3990]

I'm sorry for your loss. And you don't have to forgive. This myth that not forgiving will bring you down eventually is just simply a not true. People who can't or won't forgive can do so without this supposed "darkness" inside of them. Like you said, some things are just not forgivable to some of us.

[@meetyanabeelit6894]

Sorry for your lost... forgiveness isn’t for them it’s for you... don’t allow that person to have power of your emotions

[@cringe4021]

sorry for your loss.

[@AngelinaParker]

When her dad was like "I will carry my hate for him to the grave" I was like "GO DAD!" I wouldn't forgive anyone who murdered my loved one.

[@sometimesometimenot]

Trails & Travel I think it just really depends on the person and the situation. Whatever someone does to get through that kind of grief is fine by me. But... I have a hard time imagining I could forgive someone who took my child’s life.

[@kjlandon9140]

Trails & Travel it’s brings peace to be honest Constantly thinking and hating someone will ruin you, when the daughter probably wouldn’t want it It’s not really about forgiving him, it’s just about letting go and moving on for yourself Don’t forgive people for them. It’s for your own peace and sanity

[@idek7438]

@Trails & Travel I'm not an expert, but I think that forgiving someone is the first step towards coming to terms with the horrible things that they did to you and learning to move on (although I don't know how you can move on from the murder of your child). Not everyone can bring themselves to forgive and the grief process is completely personal, but I think forgiveness, when it can be reached, is a healthier option than sterile hate, which certainly won't do anyone any good. I'm an atheist btw

[@BhappyD]

Trails & Travel Forgiveness is very personal, and it doesn’t have to have anything to do with religion. For a lot of people, forgiveness brings freedom. It is more for the person who is doing the forgiving, rather than for the person who is being forgiven. Forgiveness does not mean that you forget what someone has done, it doesn’t mean you excuse their actions, and it doesn’t take away the pain; but it can lift the burden of hatred, and that can be a very powerful tool in the grieving process. It’s not at all “counter-intuitive”. I don’t know how I would respond to the brutal murder of a loved one, and I don’t know if I would be able to forgive someone for that, but I would hope with time that I would eventually find forgiveness. I still struggle with forgiving my abusive “father”, so I cannot even begin to fathom how difficult it would be to forgive someone for taking the life of the person I love most. Forgiveness does take strength, and to me that is respectable. That doesn’t mean that the families like Lauren’s are any less strong or any less respected. They are doing the best they can to navigate an unimaginably horrific situation while remaining strong enough to advocate for their daughter and keep her memory alive, and that is respectable too. Respecting one family for their ability to forgive, does not negate the the strength of or respect for families who don’t, they are both still respectable regardless of their journey through grief. Respect for one does not cancel out respect for the other.

[@brittanyday4972]

I would never forgive them either I would carry that hate around and use it to prevent this from happening to someone elses family or prosecute other murderers. Murder of your family is something I could personally never forgive.

[@jessicapike9575]

Looking at her you can tell she’s an angel. What a tragedy.

[@aaliyahcruz3316]

Targon of Assad “might”

[@lavanyaprakasam4159]

Targon of Assad So what even though I am not homophobic Lauren seems like a sweet girl

[@j8246]

@Targon of Assad yikes, imagine hearing about someone being murderer and this is your first thought.

[@wendyhere7204]

@@j8246 No, it's simply a more rational response to a naive comment. Looks have nothing to do with someone being a good person or not. Comments like those of the first poster make my eyes roll and insides cringe, tragedy or not.

[@markk8248]

Ehh. Not quite. If there’s anything these true crimes have taught me it’s that you can never judge a person based off of looks or pictures. There’s so many beautiful/handsome people out there with seemingly happy lives who end up being absolutely disgusting evil people.

[@ginasreview1030]

What a disgusting "excuse" for murdering Lauren. She was such a beautiful soul & he TOOK that from her.

[@ms.g5346]

It just makes me sick to my stomach. This poor beautiful girl and her family.

[@chelseanicole1911]

The only bright side of murder is that no one can take your soul.

[@hannahw1683]

Penelope Phelange Wtf is wrong with you?! You disgust me, there’s only one path to heaven and your not on it.

[@PeachesMilktea]

Penelope Phelange good luck

[@penelopephelange]

@@hannahw1683 Heaven & Hell aren't real stupid.

[@makennashuter6606]

"He liked every single one of her Instagram posts" That's it. That's when I knew he was crazy.

[@arielrose2012]

Same! I don’t have social media anymore but when I did, when a guy liked EVERYTHING I posted, it was red flag #1.

[@roserocks1979]

Yep

[@mariangely9546]

agreed, when Kendall said that I immediately thought "red flag"

[@Hannah-gx4vq]

Yeah. As soon as she said that, I knew he was the bad guy in this story.

[@dvsdawl]

Same. You don’t date that guy! You block him.

[@Alexandria1326]

Her family were my next door neighbors in Kentucky when I was little. Such a sad case. They were such sweet people.

[@Lizzyvallesrodriguez]

Really?

[@dreamwishergirl]

So sorry for them. This is horrific. A complete psychopath with no remorse

[@ooohlalaandrea]

God bless you and them

[@Spockismyhomeboy1]

Such a sad situation for that family.

[@Alexandria1326]

@@Lizzyvallesrodriguez Yes we would have cookouts and such with them before they moved to North Carolina.

[@stephanie4ever]

I’m with her parents on this one. I could never forgive someone for murdering any loved one, especially your own child. There’s just no way.

[@marsharowaihy6725]

I heard people that lost loved ones you almost have to so they can move on,. Def would need a close relationship with God

[@jocelynwilson554]

Especially when you trusted that person and let them into your family. This is the ultimate betrayal.😞

[@stephanie4ever]

Marsha Rowaihy I’m not a forgiving person so I wouldn’t move on from that I guess. Like I’d be able to live my life but I’d always have that void and always have hate for that person. It’s just such a sad situation

[@sarahlovee1865]

I'd like to think the people can't forgive themselves for it either. I can't and my situation was more of an agreement to turn off life support and I still hate myself for basically giving someone permission to kill my son.

[@jesustheonlywayone6039]

Marsha Rowaihy was bb.

[@luluraeembury9966]

He liked every single one of her pictures. That's creepy.

[@PADARM]

ikr, I was like: Gurl, Hell no. Runn

[@adolenefowler5699]

I was just like, yeahhh I would’ve blocked him.......even if I had known him in the past.

[@kaeleenmichelle]

RIGHT? As soon as she said that I was like. This is not going to end well

[@alexanepineau1737]

@@kaeleenmichelle you were about to watch a true crime video that for sure wasn't going to end well

[@rossherndon4548]

That was honestly the first red flag to me. If someone does this to you, you should block them immediately

[@joo6231]

I will never understand how someone can choose to murder someone instead of just separating

[@linstantnoodles_]

She wanted to separate. He did not. Hence, what happened

[@rekacsernus8788]

Honestly since I watch these videos here plus 48 hours, I have to say that I’m happy to being single…

[@eagleeye2300]

Psycho.

[@randiwhite83]

I know this is a pretty old video, but I wanted to throw my two cents in about forgiveness. My husband was murdered, part of a quadruple homicide. The person who did it is a monster (One of the other victims was an 18 month old baby). Three years after, we finally had the trial, which I had to testify at, and it was the hardest thing I have ever done. He was sentenced to death, along with a life sentence and another 25 years for all the charges. I thought at this point I would have the closure I needed to move on with my life, but I didn't. I was holding so much anger and resentment that I literally couldn't function. My children deserved better, I deserved better. I was barely surviving in a very dark place, although, on the outside, I looked like superwoman. It took another year for me to realize that I was letting this monster not only take my kids' dad from them, but their mom too. I had to forgive myself for guilt I was harboring and I, symbolically, "gave" my pain back to the one who caused it. I will never forgive and certainly never forget, but I couldn't hold on to it anymore. It will be 8 years in a couple weeks, we miss him everyday, but we are doing so much better.

[@anisiabumbacea2248]

I am incredibly sorry for what happened to you. You are an extremely strong person for carrying on and I wish you only the best!

[@sdeslatte]

I found it almost impossible to forgive the man who failed my husband and caused his death. It was gross negligence and if he had been at his post instead of walking around arguing with his gf he would be alive and fathering his 3 children. It fostered and fostered. I ignored him at the funeral, at the court case and for years. It wasn't until I fully processed the grief that I finally came to terms with it. I then realized his grief and guilt must have been heavy. I couldn't imagine how hard it is to deal with knowing your stupid fight could have waited until my husband was safely down the pole. So I let go, I forgave but oh it was so hard to do and took me years. I am sorry for your loss and am glad you are finding your peace.

[@staciacarney8085]

What an amazing story. Thank you for sharing this. I cannot even imagine how you've gotten through this. Your kids are blessed to have you as their mom.

[@RD-ms9gn]

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm glad you are strong for your family.

[@isabella-zm9qf]

Wow, thank you for sharing this. I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. As an 18 year old whose dad passed away when I was 16, it means a lot to me that my mom is trying to stay strong and be a good parent. Sure, we fight, but my relationship with both of my parents mean so much to me. It’s irreplaceable. Your kids are lucky and I’m so glad to hear that you’re doing better now❤️ I’m sure they really appreciate how much love and support you give them. I know I do :)

[@Zamiiz]

“DM’ed her after liking *every one of her posts”* The creep meter is going off the charts

[@Duckfie]

I always block people who do this because it’s so fucking weird!!!

[@NiMiBrat]

Exactly! That's not cute at all. An immediate 'No' for me.

[@melissam597]

I really wish she’d spotted that red flag, poor Lauren 😔

[@sewgeekdesigns9113]

The ones who start a convo after accepting their friend requests…it’s why I have a no men policy on Facebook…one guy got creepy

[@cjdodgeprimecrime]

Lol I said the exact same thing!

[@kyleewells1174]

The mother in law making her wear blue was a cold and calculated narcissistic move.

[@kit-kat5265]

I had a mother in law just like her

[@kitsunefire92]

@@kit-kat5265 glad its "had" instead of have

[@melissam597]

That was cruel

[@laurenhernandez1165]

Yup, that was 100% intentional

[@lenpgc]

I have a mother in-law that did something like this to me 😂 whoever wants the tea lmk lol

[@melbagarcia-ventura]

A piece of information not mentioned was that two nights before she went to her parents house to grab a folder to hold documents and her dad said she seemed anxious. He said he knows now that she was preparing to separate but regrets not asking her what was going on when she came by that night.

[@katieb9428]

Can we just take a moment and appreciate how the 911 operator wasn’t a jerk, listened to the whole “story,“ and just behaved in a composed manner trying to keep the man on the other line calm, but also pre-occupied while the police were on their way

[@elliottg2322]

Thank you

[@meganrose5535]

Definitely , I’ve seen so many videos were the operator is a d!ck lol

[@dirtwitchhcx]

Foreal

[@DrFeelGoood]

@@elliottg2322 are you the actual operator? i notice one of the only 5 videos on your "important moments" playlist is a news story around this case

[@McGullicutty]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@lovealwayslaci3966]

Her poor mom had me in tears. Couldn’t imagine going through this.

[@trgiun]

she could barely speak :( choking up so much my heart goes out to her, her daughter and the rest of the family

[@Ruby-ev9ym]

I know it broke me. As a mother, I could not imagine someone taking my baby away in such a hateful way.

[@keearapowell84]

He definitely was obsessed with that movie because the character in the movie couldn’t remember if he really killed those ppl or not so the cough syrup has nothing to do with it he truly was trying to imitate the movie ... 123 stab wounds is just demonic

[@ajaku]

Wow, that's ...I have no words actually

[@lunar_light]

Wow, now that you mention it, that detail from the movie kinda makes it obvious. He was a creepy, obsessed fanboy and this poor woman lost her life because of it. How unfair, and how *absolutely pathetic* of him to want to emulate that character, wtf...

[@Nat-uf8fz]

This is kinda like Luca magnotta

[@lucyhannah1227]

if I was murdered and my family forgave the killer i would be lowkey offended...

[@StunningPetiteFeminineDemoness]

Sis, I would HIGHKEY be offended.

[@lucynosbisch]

Not related, but we have the same name :)

[@Preservestlandry]

@@ggoat3892 that's not forgiving, that's just moving on.

[@theLatestkraze]

Same

[@brittsilva]

Id be fucking pissed.

[@brittanysasmrcorner4289]

I wouldn't forgive him. My sister was murdered and I could never forgive her murderer. He doesn't deserve it and never will.

[@natlayne78]

I’m so sorry you had to deal with losing your sister like that. I lost my brother to addiction but it’s different than losing someone to murder. I can’t even imagine that. Bless your heart girl. Prayers and love.

[@aubrypenton9230]

i’m so sorry sweetie. my sister died a little over a year ago but like the other person said , i’m sure someone getting murdered you love is awful i can’t even imagine. you’re in my thoughts and prayers ❤️

[@MilaB1111]

I’m so sorry, she’s with you. ❤️

[@brittanysasmrcorner4289]

Thank you for your responses. ❤I do believe shes with me and always will be. ❤

[@LOhaha94]

I’m so sorry for your loss ❤️

[@Laura-pn9eo]

Let's normalize not putting pressure on families like this to forgive and not glorifying the families that say they DO forgive. I think this family is WELL within their rights to hate Matt with a fiery passion for the rest of their lives.

[@stephaniehowe997]

Unforgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. It hurts you more than them.

[@Laura-pn9eo]

@@stephaniehowe997 hmm nah. If someone did that to one of my famiily members I stand firm in owing that person NOTHING. It's not that I would be expecting my non-forgiveness to hurt the other person (probably wouldn't affect them at all) but we are in no way obligated to fully come to a place of peace and forgiveness after a situation so traumatic. We will often just learn ways to cope with the pain. Nice quote though...

[@jordielamond6986]

@@stolenart9290 Simmer down mate, no need to be a rude prick. “Let’s learn” to show compassion. Not everybody feels the same about things and that’s okay. You don’t need to be horrible because somebody is different.

[@jordielamond6986]

@@Laura-pn9eo I agree with you though, I would never be able to forgive someone that did something like this. And that doesn’t speak on anything of me. If someone ripped someone or something from my life, I would find other ways to come to peace, not inclusive to forgiving a POS that decided to play God and take someone’s life.

[@stephaniehowe997]

@@Laura-pn9eo that’s a quote from Nelson Mandela. We can’t forgive by ourselves whatsoever. But I’ve seen first hand after a friend was murdered and her family said they forgave the killer, the peace they had despite still being in so much pain.

[@saradessalee385]

I absolutely LOVE that their shirts that they wore for the sentencing were blue after his mom pulled the “wear blue” with the family photos.

[@SkylarStullerSilverstar]

You know the mom could have been in on this, since he allowed her to treat his wife like dirt.

[@valariealred3357]

Omg yes

[@annacourtney3061]

tatst

[@annacourtney3061]

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[@cassandrastone7297]

This breaks my heart. You could see in Lauren’s face how much love she had for everyone. What a beautiful soul. As a survivor of extreme domestic assault/abuse I tell my children that if somebody hits you once, you leave and never go back bc it’ll only get worse. If they acted like they even wanted to harm you, leave them!

[@stephanieschmaljohann226]

Her Dad apologizing for letting her down just broke my heart. I cannot imagine his pain.

[@brandiguarino1778]

Poor baby girl, I’m so sorry for her and her family. She looked like such a sweetheart.

[@disneygal200016]

I was married to a man that drank a whole bottle of cold syrup. When I came home he was passed out on the floor & stayed that way for hours. I don’t think he could have gotten up to use the bathroom let alone kill me. This was totally set up to kill this poor girl.

[@dylanvoisine2695]

U do it on an empty stomach youll have a bad sickly trip. Ur ex husband was prolly a dumbass and did so

[@zachanikwano]

I... is he okay?

[@cherishedvalor]

In high school, I used to take the entire box of the exact medication matt took. Coricidin Cough & Cold. And OMG does it mess you up. Time overlaps and you think you’re in other dimensions, and you have no clue where you are or that you’re even human. At least, that was my experience, the like… Idk… 25-30x I did it. Went to the hospital 3x for it to have charcoal pumped into my stomach. But I will say when we were that messed up, there’s no way we could have had the strength or coordination to take on another adult in a violent altercation and stab them multiple times. We used to lay down on benches at the bus terminal and just sort of walk around dazed, unsure how to get on the bus again lol.

[@samaralan478]

Am a pharmacist and I can assure you people metabolise drugs totally different it’s totally depend on genetic make up of the person which can’t be similar to any other person on the planet . Some people they don’t even experience anything because the drug goes in and out very fast

[@jaybrooks7431]

What the hell do they put in a cold bottle where yous come from . I know in Africa they use it to get high ,but where am from there nothing strong in them free health care so maybe that,s why

[@sharongrigg5336]

Broke my heart that she was curled up in the fetal position holding her own hair... Her last moments must have been horrific. Her poor family have every right to hate this monster with every breath for what he did to this beautiful girl. My heart aches for this lovely family 💔

[@elh1977]

I doubt I could forgive. Imagine her pain being stabbed over 100 times!

[@cecethompson914]

The 911 operator handled that situation very well. He was so calm, neutral, and nonjudgmental....he was able to get the maximum amount of info out of the suspect.

[@courtney5113]

I agree! Some of the 911 operators in Kendall’s videos are shockingly inept and awful, even to the victims! This guy was wonderful!

[@MzCorrieB]

Yes he was great! Unlike most of the others.

[@ashleycortes4657]

He did handle it really well

[@bethagner2334]

He was good as were all of the officers and DA employee's who worked with our Family. I can not say enough good things about our team that were kind, patient, caring and worked hard to make sure Matt had no options.

[@peter1135]

@@bethagner2334 Sorry for your loss, Lauren seemed like a very beautiful woman. ❤️

[@mikailaillson7374]

Kendall!!! Please cover the story of Jasmine Richards. She was a 12 year old dating a 19 year old who believed he was a 300 year old ware wolf, his name was Jeremy. Jasmine’s family did not approve of Jeremy or their relationship. So Jeremy convinced Jasmine to kill her family so that they could be together. This happened in my city medicine hat Alberta!! So interesting and sad. I’d love if you would tell their story!

[@fintanjbrennan9965]

Mikaila Cullihall Morbid podcast did an episode about that. It’s such a horrendous story.

[@ameliabedelia2170]

WOW I hope she does cover that . That's sounds realy interesting. and creepy

[@aliannarose3234]

oh i hope she covers it

[@oliviacratin288]

This would be perfect for Freak Week!!

[@kristinaponce5162]

@@fintanjbrennan9965 can you leave the link for that podcast?

[@rae3995]

That shirt makes Kendall’s eyes look poppin 😍

[@tonyahinrichs8828]

It's a bad a$$ shirt

[@Ana-fb7kl]

I dont understand how this comments likes are so low . Because this comment is spitting facts

[@isabellaie]

ikr that's what i first noticed 🧿👄🧿

[@Bianca-rv9ui]

she's so freakin pretty!!!

[@JenHilbawi]

It definitely does! She’s stunning

[@cherylemaybury9967]

My sister was murdered in 1999 and I can’t forgive the animal who did it but at the same time I don’t focus on him or what happened to her. I try to live with the memories of her and think about what she would want me to do with my life. I miss her everyday but I don’t feel heavy in my heart. I believe I will see her again so it takes away a lot of the pain. Eventually I had to choose to live for her and not dwell on the pain.

[@Bella-cr7rj]

The fact that she was found in the fetal position holding her hair literally breaks my heart. Her last moments were filled with so much pain and agony

[@chanellejade6206]

Yes the part about her holding her own hair! That was hard to hear

[@noodles4067]

@@penelopephelange What the fuck is wrong with you? Trolls like you disgust me.

[@claudiabingham4929]

@@penelopephelange you are the devil

[@Fyralynn]

@@claudiabingham4929 Ever heard of not feeding the troll? Just ignore it, they are just baiting you to get a reaction.

[@tehreemraza123]

@@claudiabingham4929 Report em too.

[@destinymay2389]

Him liking all of my pictures would’ve made me block him 😂 seems stalky; especially if you have a lot of pictures.

[@misfitbrit1989]

Right?! That's creepy as hell!

[@jodihowell8077]

Exactly it’s just weird!

[@deenas.6064]

me who likes everything on a new friend’s instagram: 👁👄👁

[@thefemalefuture1]

@@deenas.6064 dw your not weird...

[@Volkslady]

Thank you! That was my first thought as well when she mentioned that! No way! 😖😬

[@arabella252]

He does not deserve forgiveness, her family is right.

[@arabella252]

@Targon of Assad A victim???????????????????????

[@jacque2317]

@Targon of Assad I agree God would want them to forgive him but he is no victim.

[@joshuaarmijo3565]

Forgiveness is not for him... Its for her parents to not allow that pig to hold any power over them... But yeah I couldn't do it... I have family who's been murdered and I hate the people that killed them and I just cant forgive... Like hell na fuck u

[@jaghond448]

Don't feed the troll. That targon guy is replying to everyone's comments with ridiculous statements. He knows he's an idiot and is trying to get a reaction out of people.

[@melissam597]

Exactly. Forgiveness won’t bring Lauren back.

[@deannacaven1447]

I hate when people are pressed to forgive. There’s a thing called toxic forgiveness and it’s how you gaslight yourself. Don’t do it, you CAN live a happy and productive life with hate in your mind. Your mind creates the resentment chemical to help you protect yourself 💙

[@riabouchinska]

I am a person who tends to hold grudges and I don't personally find that hating some motherfucker negatively affects my existence lol (although to be fair I haven't experienced any wrongs or injuries as devastating as someone murdering one of my loved ones, knock on wood)

[@lauraprosser5084]

No you forgive for yourself not the other person.Its not healthy to live with hate in you.

[@charinav3556]

I fully think that forgiveness means bugger all when someone's hurt you badly enough. You should forgive yourself and love yourself but some people aren't deserving of it.

[@charinav3556]

@@lauraprosser5084 you don't have to forgive someone in order to not feel hate for them. T

[@skatergirl8019]

100% believe this was premeditated. But what was his end game?? Did he really think him saying oops I took too much medicine and killed my wife wasn’t going to get him locked up in jail?? Was he that narcissistic? Poor Lauren. What a waste of a life.

[@dhfjgktdmfhfj1716]

I think his payout was the experience itself. Sick and sad but it checks out with how he lived the rest of his life with the need of instant gratification without a thought towards the fallout :/

[@pepcore]

People on a lot of these cases don't seem to be able to think past the next 5 minutes.

[@aubrypenton9230]

i’m not saying this is a reason but he shows a lot of the signs of someone with borderline personality disorder such as the drugs, the constant changing jobs and the excessive spending

[@searchingfordotdotdot1086]

@@aubrypenton9230 😫 dang it. He really does. Self medicating. Sleep problems. Emotional/mental abuse. Impulse control, spending problems. Cheating, risky behavior.

[@budleypets]

He got the idea from the movie Side Effects. If you watch the movie you will see.

[@brooklyneinwiller5976]

Hearing her family speak was literally heart wrenching...

[@georgiag2398]

right! i felt they're pain it was so sad to watch and hear:(

[@brooklyneinwiller5976]

georgia g I know :( literally broke my heart, so awful

[@chuluschaap9129]

Especially the mom, she was like shaking

[@brooklyneinwiller5976]

Chulu Schaap ugh literally my heart hearts for her, you can tell how heartbroken she is

[@Izyplaysforall]

I couldn’t even stab someone 123 times SOBER without passing out

[@peaches8864]

It was painful hearing Laurens father say he felt as though he had let her down. I can't imagine that she would ever think he was to blame, there was no way he could have known.

[@madsdee7803]

He tried to warn her and she was in the love bubble. I've told both of my kids to never tell someone you're breaking up with them, just wait until you can safely leave and do it (no warning for potential murderers). They each know they will be supported financially until the get back on their feet (they won't be in our house either so they can't be found). I even told my sister she could use one of our empty apartments if her new boyfriend - who she moved in with after knowing him a week- ever scared her. They just need to not go back. SO many people go back, or are conned into a "goodbye meeting" and get killed.

[@tonimausey]

I was in an abusive relationship. My grandmother couldnt stand the guy and didnt trust him. She had a bad vibe and thought he was a bad guy from the start, but she never said a word. She kept it to herself and always acted polite around him. After I left him and everything came out she told me how she had felt about him and my mom asked her why she never said anything and in her words she said "it wasn't my place to tell her who to love" my grandmother did feel guilty for not voicing her opinion earlier. I told her if she had told me I would have left him because I felt weird about him too but everyone seemed to love him so I thought I was just crazy, if I had one person share my feelings I might have believed my own instinct. My grandmother felt guilty but I told her it wasnt her fault. So I can understand why her father felt that way. If he had been more vocal about not liking him maybe his daughter wouldnt have married him and maybe would still be alive. Guilt is a powerful thing.

[@lightscamera255]

I just wanna hug her dad, it is not your fault, you don’t always see the signs. Just never forget her and always bring awareness to her case! 💖

[@midwesternprincesss]

Her mom’s cries break my heart. That’s not an average cry, it’s a deep physically painful sob. 💔

[@ruthkobes2114]

I couldn’t help but notice there were no tears. I’m NOT judging, just an observation. Did i just not see them?

[@mariastafford1216]

@@ruthkobes2114 I was looking for someone else who observed this.

[@ivamanral989]

@@mariastafford1216 a time comes when your tears dry up :( from the constant crying

[@AleksandarBell]

@@ruthkobes2114 Her tears could’ve just been gone. When my grandmother died I cried so much I couldn’t do it at her funeral, because I had been crying so much the entire day. I was in pain and my body went through the motions but I simply didn’t have enough tears to cry anymore. It’s common with grief. Especially when it’s sudden and unexpected.

[@verisbercy]

My only brother was murdered 3 days after I found out I was pregnant with my first child and struggling with infertility. I never got to tell him. I will never forgive his killer. I hope he rots in prison for the rest of his life and every day is torture for him. I understand when families forgive but it’s not for me. I’m not religious so that may have something to do with it. I feel like anger was the only thing that saved me from wallowing in despair. That and my baby.

[@bernices8481]

Your brother probably got to meet your baby's spirit in heaven before you met your baby. Wishing you and your family peace.

[@hommefataltaemin]

I’m so sorry that happened to you. You’re very strong. I hope you and your baby are doing well. Honestly I don’t think being religious or not has much to do with it, as my family and I are quite religious and can never forgive the monster.

[@MDWJS]

Sorry for your loss- I hope you are able to forgive someday and find peace. If you can’t that is ok too. Blessings

[@pretzelmaker3122]

Anger can do a lot, but I hope the rest of your life contains more happiness, even if not forgiveness. I am sorry you lost your brother.

[@madsdee7803]

😢 I'm so sorry. You don't have to forgive them, look after yourself and live the life your brother would want for you. x

[@helloooo6759]

When kendall starts describing someones personality y'know they are sadly dead

[@KendallRae]

It’s true 🤷🏽‍♀️😭

[@nightfox907]

Hearing her dad talk about her about how he left her down... I cried. I cannot imagine the grief that they carry around.

[@kwol4l]

The 911 dispatcher “how... HOW?!” I was like riiight

[@jthom135]

The dispatcher was pissed... but professional lol

[@aubrypenton9230]

i couldn’t imagine being a dispatcher i would NOT be able to keep my cool

[@lilyhigson5711]

About to get into bed for work tomorrow and Kendall brings this out. Let’s goooo

[@RemiReagan]

Same 🥰

[@shannon201199]

Same!

[@loopylou1987]

Lol. In in the uk. Nearing 2am here.

[@annalisegiovanni7032]

I hope you ladies have a good night & a good week😀❤

[@shannon201199]

Louise Ward I’m in the UK too!

[@justiner1650]

“He liked every single Instagram post she had” Me: RED FLAG

[@rubisue8229]

yup, A GIANT RED FLAG

[@rikmcdik6662]

That’s how my ex who ruined my mental health for a while got her hooks into me!

[@audreybea4013]

Right?? Whenever someone does that to me I get super creeped out. Even if they like a few of my pictures in a row I'm like.... Why.. why are u doing that

[@valcvc2019]

Why? I’m genuinely curious on why people think this a bad sign

[@rikmcdik6662]

@@valcvc2019 best way I can sum it up is: it’s a form of “love bombing” which is a manipulative tactic employed to get somebody to “love” you quicker. They’re trying to bypass the normal steps of falling in love because they’re either incapable or uninterested in pursuing it gradually at a pace both can work at with time to think.

[@Volgotha]

Never marry someone if their family hates you. You end that relationship and you move on.

[@k.acevedo6838]

I know and for no reason at all. She was an Angel.

[@lauraprosser5084]

Lol then no one would be married.Stupid comment.

[@torilynne3746]

My mans family hates me (besides his mother, father, and his mothers side of the family) lololol. But they don’t like him and would rather him be back w his abusive toxic ex :-))

[@azurephoenix9546]

Depends on the dynamics, tbh. It took 5 kids and 15 years for my in-laws to at least stop calling me a gold digger to my face. But my grandma always told me "kill em with kindness, baby. Nobody likes an asshole." So basically just be kind and respectful to them and especially to my husband who is stuck in the middle. We're 23 years together this year and happier together now than we ever were before, because of all the crap we've been through. I think it's a matter of who they're more married to: you or their family.

[@Bartandpandora]

Remember that you’re in the relationship and not your family, so do what makes you happy 🥰

[@natalieps2387]

Always listen when ur dad has a bad feeling about a boyfriend.

[@AnnaSingsChannel]

Every boyfriend I’ve had that my dad said to stay away from became abusive.

[@toddlermommy83]

Or your Mom if you dont have a dad!!

[@toddlermommy83]

Parents just know...dont know how but we have that super power!!😉😉

[@jewelnavarrette6041]

ToddlerMommy 83 yea, mothers and fathers warn you about it. I agree ☝️

[@alishadawn6636]

😂ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR ELDER WITH ADVICE SITTING ON A PORCH PEELING A APPLE WITH A KNIFE . I MISS MY DADS ADVICE

[@shelby2117]

We need to normalize not forgiving people who have caused you enormous hardship and grief. Forgiveness of an abuser/murderer is not (for many people) necessary in positively moving forward in your life. If it's your religious belief, fine, if you feel it will help you, fine, but the fact that it's seen as a necessary step in the grieving process is bullshit.

[@sheila933]

Absolutely. It’s a form of victim blaming. It’s 100% possible to move forward with a healthy and happy life without having to forgive the person who wronged you. It should never be shifted to the victim to be obligated to forgive. They don’t owe anyone anything.

[@quirkyblackenby]

Agreed

[@crimetimewithjess5366]

Thank you! I say this all the time. You do not owe anyone forgiveness, I praise that her parents refuse to give him that.

[@daniann19_91]

10000%

[@starfire4539]

I agree, I’m glad I’m unforgiving of people who’ve wronged me.

[@lisazdvoru1660]

The fact that he was so clean makes me wonder if he wore a disposable raincoat like Patrick Bateman in American Psycho, given his obsession with the character.

[@OzmaOfOzz]

Omg

[@edgeofsevnteen]

And his fav song is “hip to be square” by Huey Louis and the News

[@roserollins9800]

Didn't he tell the 911 operator that he was covered in blood?

[@lisazdvoru1660]

@@roserollins9800 He said that there was "so much blood" and that he too scared to go near her. He never said there was blood on him.

[@widjadija]

@@lisazdvoru1660 11:20 he says “I have blood all over me”

[@MIDGIT1709]

That phone call was weird. Like you can hear tears from him but they’re controlled like he knew he needed to sound sad.

[@hibiscus752]

I noticed that too! It’s was so weird.

[@strawbemmy]

i've been scrolling thru youtube for the past 10 minutes, not satisfied with anything i've clicked on so you have no idea how happy this notification makes me!

[@Cristina55555]

I know the feeling 😂

[@amieanderson9827]

@@Cristina55555 just finished watching Janelle and Kendalls sesh podcast and now straight after i have this to watch😁 great stuff check it out if you havent already x

[@vivgoldstein7458]

Same !!

[@grieftick]

SAME

[@me_i__a1313]

SAME

[@chaserenee1576]

Who is excited for FREAK WEEK? October, hurry up.

[@maddiekaetterhenry6373]

YESSS!!!!

[@annarose4308]

I was just thinking about it!!! Something to look forward to 🙂

[@NattieD911]

Yesssss

[@geomjmnz]

i’ve been thinking about this the whole month of august LMAO

[@seeduboyou]

is that a special kendall series??? (newish viewer here)

[@hannab828]

that 911 call was so fake!!! i could smell his fake crying from a mile away

[@ambiebambie8198]

Right! It almost sounded like he was yawning. What a sicko

[@heartlessflower]

Side note..We’re both of there voices deep?thought it was a voice editor

[@Robotchickjenn]

Okay, so this story had a huge impact on me. I don't know, just some stories you read them and you can't help but want to reach out and hug these poor people that lost this beautiful girl. One day I'm going to create a financial literacy foundation for children and young adults in her name. She was a good saver and great with children. I hope to educate young folks in her honor about the importance of saving and planning.

[@rikmcdik6662]

I love the “I was blacked out on (insert substance here)” excuse. Unless you were force fed the substance, then you’re the one who took the substance and therefore are at fault. Kind of like a drunk driver.

[@robbiejohnston9409]

I agree but you legally can't give consent to sex while on drugs.....so .

[@bellablue7661]

@@robbiejohnston9409 that’s because other people can influence you and force you into having sex when you’re inebriated when you might not want to do that if you were sober. Absolutely different from murder or drunk driving. One is something you decide to do on your own, the other is something that requires another person to willingly take part. Not to mention you can still be convicted of rape if you were drunk when you forced yourself on someone.

[@robbiejohnston9409]

@@bellablue7661 but if you drink, you decided to do that didn't you? You knew it would make you inebriated and your decision making bad right? No one forced you to drink 🤷‍♂️

[@pretzelmaker3122]

@@bellablue7661 It is rare to be convicted of rape while drunk, very rare. Most often in my law studies, cases have been tossed, ended in acquittals or similar because you don't have enough physical evidence to prove it wasn't consensual when you only have one person's story. It does happen, but being drunk does count as not being in your right mind in the eyes of the law and is used as a defense of many things. Driving drunk is different because people can obviously tell you were driving, test your blood and know that you never should have grabbed the keys. Arguing consent is much harder. As for his cough medicine defense, it works sometimes, depending on the situation. Yes, he chose to use saidsubstance, but when we are talking addictive substances, the law has some laxness in regards to fault. There are cases of users of other drugs (probably codeine too) being let go in favor of seeking rehab/therapy.

[@MsJeanneMarie]

Drinking and driving is wrong and everyone knows that but no one is told not to take cough medicine and sleep. Regardless, it wasn’t the cough medicine, it was him.

[@Caitilizzie]

Cases like this make me never want to get married... I know there’s genuinely amazing people out there, but i’ve seen so many cases of husbands killing their wives that it kind of scares me. RIP Lauren, she seemed like an amazing person and a beautiful soul ❤️ It’s so sad what happened to her, I can’t believe Matthew even wanted to become a pastor despite everything he did!

[@forestfairy8025]

Marriage is absolutely not a financial contract. It might mean that TO YOU. marriage above all else is about partnership.

[@ashgood7368]

I think it’s kinda pointless to get married tbh.

[@221BBakerStreet]

Caiti I don't think he wanted to become a pastor at all. It was just something he said to gaslight her.

[@brutadosqueixos]

Masturbation never breaks your heart!!! 🤘🏽🤘🏽❤️🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@Thatgradgirl]

Don’t do it... you never really truly know a person. Just what they want you to know and when they reveal their true self it’s terrifying. I have seen it in my own immediate family, it’s just not worth it. Marriage is not with losing your life or sanity!

[@Cubik222]

“He had a bad feeling about him” *shows mugshot* 😂😂

[@NattieD911]

Lmfaoooo

[@rrosie.posiie]

i legit was gonna comment this 😂

[@pixiehopper8]

Hahaha I totally laughed at that part too. I love it!

[@danidragonfly]

He definitely has the crazy eyes

[@lauren9004]

I really laughed at this too!

[@alexusp]

123 STAB WOUNDS ?!?! FROM “SLEEP MURDERING” ?! yeah.. okay. I’ve dated a Matthew where he has liked all of my pictures, stalked me, eventually assaulted me, controlling me, etc. and I honestly don’t know what would’ve happened to me if I stayed with him. He seemed as sketchy as Lauren’s Matt and I so wish she hadn’t found him, and ended her life so soon.

[@dhanyashridhar6281]

How mentally disturbed does a person have to be to STAB someone 123 TIMES! 123 TIMESS?!! OMG!!! It broke my heart hearing Lauren's father say that he felt he let her down... My heart goes out to the family of Lauren. I hope they get the strength to go through and overcome the sadness and loss.

[@jasminkellingreis3622]

It’s just so sad, her mum knew it was him straight away, she had a gut feeling, I’m heartbroken for her and the rest of Lauren’s family

[@alyssamarie5392]

I’m a recovering heroin addict, and when I was younger I took insane amounts of Coricidin to Robotrip. It is a major dissociative, which means that if you get to a certain dose you’re just going to be completely asleep, immobile, catatonic. He murdered her and tried to make it look like it was because of drug use, but Coricidin just does not do this. It essentially just feels like being drunk but more trippy. Nothing crazy. And then, like I said, you go too high you’re gonna become catatonic, you won’t be moving around, let alone have the energy or coordination to stab someone 123 times, clean yourself up, and make a 911 call.

[@angelrain7618]

You think maybe he killed her, then took the cough syrup, slept then woke up and called 911?

[@anxious.strawberry]

I hope your recovery goes well! It’s a huge step, and I hope you know that you’ve made a lot of people proud :)

[@paulinareyes3379]

True took it several times . This doesn’t doesn’t make sense

[@xxoxia]

Same here. I, too, am a recovering heroin addict who used to take DXM. Maybe we should meet up and murder each other, haha. Sorry, the joke was too available, although, I’m serious about my past. Same situation. Took me 20 years and moving to England to get off opiates. DXM is horrifying, though. I never understood why I used to take drugs I don’t even like. The only thing I liked about it was that it made music sound great.

[@alyssamarie5392]

@@angelrain7618 Ooh, very, VERY possible. Makes sense. Nice theory, didn’t think if that’s

[@Deryn-Emily]

I can't even forgive the boy who punched my sister in the face when she was 6. I seriously doubt I could forgive someone who murdered a loved one...

[@pastichedecor3667]

Well done.

[@makaylamurray8675]

I instantly started tearing up when her dad said “I’m sorry I let you down, but I’m not gonna let the rest of them down. Not no more.” Something about the way he said it really shows you how much he blames himself for what happened to her, and it absolutely breaks my heart.

[@vilmareynoso7343]

Poor man. Just so heartbreaking.

[@katrin896]

This is why you can never, ever, trust cute couple photos on social media.

[@i3desiderata]

Amen

[@kendragreene5953]

Facts!! I try not to get jealous when I see that we a single woman because you just never know!!

[@_sunchildd]

!!!! if someone is always saying how “happy” they are.. chances are.. they aren’t happy at all. whenever i’m at my happiest i never, ever go around posting about how happy i am.

[@faizaali6265]

@@kendragreene5953 Same, we can't be jealous who knows what is going on. I'd rather be single than be abused

[@KatrinaJoy225]

@@_sunchildd If people are truly happy, they're out living their lives. They're not posting on fb and Instagram trying to convince everyone how happy they are. Social media is a joke that really just contributes to people's unhappiness.

[@lizziebarrie]

I hope when people see cases like this, pick up on those red flags and from the first red flag they see on their partner LEAVE!

[@christinalewis7836]

Lizziejnb what were the red flags? Other than liking her Instagram posts and his mom being an asshole?

[@AldanaBalarezo]

@@christinalewis7836 I think they mean to take this case as a way to learn and try to observe for red flags in a relationship, to prevent things from escalating

[@BhappyD]

Lizziejnb Hindsight is 20/20. It is very hard to recognize red flags in the moment when it’s your own relationship, especially when you are dealing with someone who is a master at manipulation. Often the red flags are very minor and easily explained away. They don’t stand out until after the person leaves their abuser and is able to go over their relationship history with a fine tooth comb, analyzing every detail, but when in the relationship that’s not how you process things. Yes, if you do notice and notice red flags and they make you think twice, don’t question your judgement and leave, but it’s also important to recognize that it’s not always that easy.

[@lizziebarrie]

Brittany yes that’s why I say, I hope people see this and recognize that kind of behavior in their partner if there is one.

[@lizfinkelstein1323]

@@christinalewis7836 I posted about this above. It is so important that you know that when a man is willing to leave his life behind for you, drop everything, take up all your interests, work so hard to ingratiate himself into your life, it is a huge RED FLAG. As women we have been given some really unfortunate messages about what is "romantic" or "charming", but a guy with no real life of his own is a really bad thing.

[@emilylewis6659]

He's definitely a sociopath from all the childhood trauma and I feel like this whole thing was intentional and he was very jealous of Laurens family relationship an I think he couldn't take it and snapped taking Lauren away so that their family could be miserable like he is inside.

[@PanicattheDiscourse]

Just caught everybody on Lauren's side wearing blue at the sentencing: is that a coincidence or a big F U to the family photo incident?

[@PanicattheDiscourse]

@Anny's World good.

[@Joannefibracs9994]

Pretty sure they were the shirts that said Lauren’s Light

[@hereyago9460]

I would think a big FU too

[@nadinekeating3255]

@@Joannefibracs9994 yeah. They were the "Lauren's Light" shirts....but her family had them made which means they got to choose to have those shirts made in any colour. They choose blue. So yes they are wearing those shirts for Lauren, but I do believe the part about making them in the colour blue was a "fuck you" to his crazy family. His mother told Lauren she needed to wear blue for the family photo shoot. In reality the women all had to wear white and the men were wearing blue. So it was a way to make Lauren understand that she didn't consider Lauren a part of her family and didn't want her to be married to her son.

[@jlagner84]

It was honestly just the color that was there with the company we got them from. We got them in several colors but blue was the cheapest in bulk for whatever reason. I do like the FU part though to his mom. She was (and may still be) a jerk.

[@ambiebambie8198]

when it showed him in court, it didn’t even look like the same person. Scary!!

[@sarahholland2600]

That poor girl. Her Dad was right to feel something was 'off'. His smile wasn't a smile. He just bares his teeth,while his eyes look angry or sad.

[@saldebrowde7823]

The mother in law setting her up to wear blue and then having a giant fight about it really reminds me of Cindy Watts and nutgate. Clearly they both were trying to make their daughter in law feel less than and wanted an excuse to have a massive fight.

[@susanharting4545]

I wonder why she didn’t like her from the start. That’s very strange.

[@bvbyuchiha1720]

“Everyone thinks I’m a serial killer” boy no one even thought of you. I think he was tired of being over shined by his hardworking wife, he felt “emasculated” because she was a go getter and was really the sole provider and her family loved her, he was jealous of her. It seems like he was tired of him not amounting to anything in comparison to her, she shone soo brightly no one could ever see him. My heart goes out to her family and I hope that they one day that they will find some peace eve if it’s just the littlest . They raised a strong beautiful, very much capable women and this sad piece of SHIT couldn’t stand to live in her shadow.

[@chrishoward4313]

Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.

[@DizzyDior12]

Such a pathetic man.

[@hellointernet7867]

Its creepy bc my sisters ex fiance was exactly like him

[@easternflower6476]

That always confuses me about these guys. Like, bro, you can be just as hardworking and successful as your wife! Wtf r u doing sitting around unemployed but also wanting to be a high roller??

[@prettypumpkin6891]

No woman has the power to demasculinize a man! However if demasculinizing, would you consider it a negative or positive change?

[@edithmadera9932]

I listen to my parents when they don't like someone. My dad told me he didn't have a good feeling about my boyfriend at the time. I broke up with him cause usually, my dad is very supportive of whoever I date. I also didn't have a good feeling sometimes but I just ignored it. 3 years later, he is charged for attempting to murder his pregnant girlfriend. Thank god the girl was able to get away and is now healthy with her child. LISTEN TO YOUR PARENTS!! They can see or sense when something isn't right.

[@H20-t3g]

I think its that parent intuition. They always say moms know best or a mother knows so I guess the same thing can be said about dad's.

[@ijfisjjf1916]

her mom literally has no tears left to cry

[@mm-qj6cc]

Just more proof man creates man his awful childhood while his little brain is developing is the only cause of demented behavior.

[@justaboringhooman]

she seemed like she was laughing imo, but i am blind so dont take my word for it

[@penelopephelange]

I know! How funny is that? 😂

[@irmagabriela7609]

@@justaboringhooman she definitely wasn't laughing.

[@Rebecca-ur5yg]

Why do the creeps always hurt good people ?! It's so devastating and heartbreaking how selfish some people can be!

[@Karabear6996]

Whenever a killer says they don't remember what they did or was dreaming, I never believe them. And it's almost never true anyways.

[@bathypelagiczone]

unless David Lynch is involved, me neither

[@lauraf.e2788]

This is a well known symptom of narcissistic personality disorder. Sometimes called the mask of amnesia. They remember all right, but they have to blame shift.

[@saraheerie]

As someone who’s grandfather was violently murdered (stabbed multiple times and then set on fire), when I was 15, I will NEVER forgive the man who did that and took him from me.

[@nniicoleeee]

What!??? I am incredibly sorry for your loss, what a heinous thing to do to someone :(

[@anushamalhotra2330]

Oh god please take care

[@dawnoneill1773]

I don't blame you I wouldn't either! My grandmother was killed when a lorry driver ran a red light and knocked her down and killed her when I was around 4 years old, I will never forgive that driver as he robbed me of making memories with her, I literally have no memories of her and he robbed me of that. I'm sorry for your loss hun 💜

[@saraheerie]

Dawn O'Neill that’s terrible. I’m sorry for the missed time with your grandma 💜💜

[@saraheerie]

Anusha Malhotra thank you for the well wishes. It happened 14 years ago but I remember it like it was yesterday 🖤

[@JackDManheim]

5:31 He chose a red lightsaber? Oh boy, that's a massive red flag right there.

[@cayleece7890]

Yes indeed

[@prettypumpkin6891]

I'm stupid.. Why?

[@JackDManheim]

@@prettypumpkin6891 there’s no shame in not knowing Star Wars lore. Red is the color of the light sabers that the bad guys use; most notably Darth Vader.

[@caitsk4te]

I don’t think that says anything, at all. If you’re a true fan, you understand why Darth Vader is a “bad guy”.

[@JackDManheim]

@@caitsk4te Not a "true fan" of jokes, are you?

[@nat-kt9rr]

I'm a bit hesitant before I watch story / true crime videos from channels I'm not familiar with because I don't know if the person is a good story teller or if they'll have a good voice, but 2 seconds in and I know I'm gonna enjoy this video. I think your voice is great for story-telling, and I'm very happy to be here :D

[@lisagoff2033]

He was too scared to go near her? No no no, you love someone that much and you think they're in serious trouble, adrenaline kicks in and you run to them blind only for them. Red flag number one.

[@mariecarmen4921]

YES! Idc how much blood there is, if my loved one is bleeding and their life is in danger, I’m running to them to try to help, stop the bleeding, SOMETHING

[@senpaisally69]

Not to back him but with adreline it’s a flight vs fight mode so even though you might think you’ll go you’ll never know until you’re that situation (just saying regarding anything and not relatively related to this)

[@CarolineElanorMcloughlin]

I would probably run to them too but not touch them too much because even if it's hard and really want, it'd contaminate the crime scene. That'll make the investigation harder.

[@mollygibson1704]

Not to defend him but I think adrenaline and pressure situations like this one are varied and everyone reacts differently

[@torilynne3746]

Not defending this monster in ANY way to clarify first. But I’m a mom to a toddler boy & he is hell on wheels lmao, always getting hurt. And a few of the more scary times when he has really hurt himself, I just freeze and have to have his dad take over. I love my son more than life, I am an anxiety ridden mess sometimes worrying that something bad will happen to him bc it scares me to death. But that doesn’t stop me from freezing completely when he has gotten badly injured. One time he face planted on the hardwood floor and his teeth just about went through his lip. There was so much blood everywhere. I couldn’t even look at him, I didn’t want to. I didn’t want to see my baby hurt or else I was going to FREAK. I didn’t want to hold him until his dad could 100% assure me that he was okay. But as soon as I knew he was not extremely injured, I held my baby and CRIED. I took him to the hospital and laid w him in the bed there. Everyone reacts different to emergency situations. But in this monsters cases he did it, he didn’t need to go near her to save her bc he didn’t want to.

[@erinl5585]

Interesting that he said he “doesn’t have a weapon on him” to dispatch

[@BlueSkyyNoise]

He mentioned that because the dispatcher asked him where the knife was

[@ashleyw1990]

My stepmom brutally killed my dad. They were married for almost 20 years. It’s hard but I will never forgive her.

[@roxyj3182]

Don’t take this the wrong way please but what was HER reason why? RIP to your dad😌

[@ashleyw1990]

He was leaving her and she wanted his money.

[@remove574]

💚

[@jessann9949]

I’m so sorry 😞♥️

[@flingshot3550]

sorry for your loss :(

[@aprilmartinez3192]

Lauren was the sweetest person ever! Always smiling. To know her was to love her and this monster took her life. Continued prayers for her family ❤️🙏

[@fourtwenty1813]

Y'all ever just reveal that you had a failed marriage while playing 20 questions with your GFs family? Jesus Christ lmao

[@EastmanEditing]

Lots of good people have failed marriages. It isn't always a red flag. My friends who are divorced are some of the more self-aware people I know and the ones who have gotten remarried are actually really good in their new relationship because they know how to avoid the things that cause their previous marriage to fail, and also many have been through counseling and are better off for it.

[@StylebyShea]

Eastman Editing I agree, but I think the red flag is the fact that she found out that her boyfriend was previously married in a game of 20 questions with her family.

[@TheWholeEntireCake]

“29 was too young to have had a failed marriage already” Well f@&$ me I guess 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@EastmanEditing]

@@StylebyShea Yeah it's a red flag that SHE didn't know until then. True! I somehow missed that and thought that was just how her family found out, and in that case, I would say it wasn't too bad since a lot of "secrets" come out when people are feeling comfortable in a game.

[@Candy-lb2wp]

😂😂😂😂

[@noodlesauce2553]

Stories like this makes me scared to trust anyone in a relationship. Yikes😨

[@annagardiner8351]

seeing a video of the victim actually talking is so so eerie and makes it feel so much more real.

[@sallykohorst8803]

Thanks for sharing this story.

[@sweetbabytays3384]

KENDALL DID YOU SEE THAT SARAH TURNEYS DAD HAS BEEN ARRESTED FOR ALISSA TURNEYS MURDER!?!?

[@autumnestridge9419]

Hope she does a update!

[@defenselessswft]

OH MY GOD FINALLY

[@samione4397]

OMG yes ! finally

[@emilyh7621]

I think she did!

[@salembrownley6879]

Oh damn!

[@valyouablecreationsstudio]

The dispatcher after hearing his story hit him with the “what how?!” Dude didn’t believe my guy whatsoever!

[@elsarodriguez3824]

Tbh it made me chuckle the guy was like sir...wtf

[@bubbleton24]

My aunt was brutally murdered and I am strongly on the side of never forgiving. I hate the man that killed her and hope he spends the rest of his life in prison.

[@sarahs5340]

Omg top professions for sociopaths: CEO, Sales and Clergy!

[@cuerbear]

19:30 cheaters and abusers will accuse the other person in the relationship of cheating a lot. It’s so they can keep control of the other person by making them guilt themselves so the abuser can do whatever they want

[@searchingfordotdotdot1086]

Its projection. Like you said, super common.

[@lisasmith1815]

I have always called that.. guilt turned inside out!!!

[@vedasultenfuss7473]

The way he looked at the sentencing is his true self. That well dressed decent looking man she met was merely his mask. Terrifying.

[@anouksurmenian4257]

Damn, anyone liking all of my Facebook pictures at once, apart from my mom discovering the Internet, is automatically on my red flag list 😳

[@auraberglund4231]

😂😂😂I shouldn't laugh but the,, except for mum,, comment was hilarious, I felt that 😂😂Because that's something that mum's would do, definitely my mum did it, of i post a photo of my finger she would like that 😂😂So your spot on, only mum's are excused, the rest, freaking weirdos.

[@ridinwithjake]

Yep! That!

[@emmatfink]

Yep! My grandma is the sort of person who will go to each individual picture in a post and like it, and she is the ONLY one allowed to do that.

[@B6east]

Hahahaha, your Mom discovering the internet 🤣. You are absolutely right about the red flag.

[@jamielynn587]

Right! I allowed a guy to follow me on Insta, he did that exact same thing. Instant block. I was so creeped out when I seen all the notifications.

[@Siile_]

Got teary eyed listening to her mom, you can really feel her pain, I'm a grown ass man with no kids and still this was so hard to watch

[@anabella4166]

I don’t blame the parents at all. If someone killed my child there is NO WAY in HELL I would ever forgive them! No amount of forgiveness could Ever take away the hate I would have for that person!

[@kimberlyclough1025]

When the mom said “I just wanna hold her” I broke down. I cannot imagine losing my child

[@13reesWorld]

You can tell with Matt’s energy and eyes that he’s evil... he freaks me out when you show his pictures...

[@msjacqboo472]

I’m glad I’m not the only person who felt that

[@TTVxoxo_zelda]

I'm so glad to see this case getting coverage; her sister Beth is the director of Christian education at my parents' church and this case was so heartbreaking to hear about.