The Collapse of the Sun Realm; Eclipse is the Advent of Twilight. The Fled God Was Her All Along...

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Occam's Onion

Occam's Onion

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@stampede274
@stampede274 Күн бұрын
I think the worm faces might have a connection to the potentates and their caterpillar masks
@captainxit5573
@captainxit5573 11 сағат бұрын
Interesting.🤔 Thank You For That. Something To Think On.
@timelineenjoyer
@timelineenjoyer 8 сағат бұрын
i mean if any people wouldve been cursed by marika across multiple realms it would be those guys
@arnebobflutschkopf3439
@arnebobflutschkopf3439 8 сағат бұрын
Wtf, now that you said it, it seems obvious
@sirrealism7300
@sirrealism7300 16 сағат бұрын
OMG THE WORMFACE ARE LIKE THE ORACLE ENVOYS BUT FOR THE DEATH GOD... And that means the aged untouchables are the envoys for the frenzied flame!
@madeline6951
@madeline6951 Күн бұрын
35:00 I believe the mechanism that tarnishes and strips things of luster is time. We see his description on almost all gauntlets of knights' sets: "Time has yet to dull their luster." It's possible that the Dragonlord stopped the "tarnishment" by literally stopping time in Farum Azula.
@madeline6951
@madeline6951 Күн бұрын
lol that's almost exactly what you say later
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 12 сағат бұрын
I am glad someone brought up the "tarnishment" in the comment. Since the video has been too long in the making, I have had some new thoughts on the mechanism as well. I also think there is more going on behind "drained of color/luster" than its literal meaning. Your interpretation of the gauntlets and time is very intriguing. I will see what I can cook up and hopefully share in the next vid! Much thanks!
@jamesio20
@jamesio20 Күн бұрын
this was a big cook. Loved the video!
@opossumoutlaw7534
@opossumoutlaw7534 18 сағат бұрын
Indeed!
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 13 сағат бұрын
Indeed.
@EmperorMist
@EmperorMist 42 минут бұрын
Indeed.
@cwill14
@cwill14 Күн бұрын
This is an old write-up now, with some recent updates from the DLC. Marika is the Gloam/Dusk-Eyed Queen. - Red and black spike of death impales Marika and keeps her in place when we find her at the end. Only Maliketh wields this power, and only he could even defeat a God like Marika. But he's so loyal to her, why would he? - Maliketh "defeated" the Gloam/Dusk-Eyed Queen. We know Shadowbound hounds have to attack their former master if The Fingers feel like the Empyrean is acting against them. We play through this reality with Ranni's quest, and both she and Iji know Blaidd will go mad as she enacts her vision. How do they know this happens? They saw/heard of it happening to Maliketh and Marika already. - Only Marika would be able to guide Ranni to the location of the Rune of Death and how to use it for it to be stolen in the first place to forge the Black Knives. Remember, "Marika... is this what it is to sin?" "Why gull me..." Marika, after all, had only one use for Maliketh in the end, after the other work was done... a vessel to seal away Destined Death. And even then, she betrayed him. - The Beast Eye is a purple, scratched up eye. It's Marika's eye from being defeated and imprisoned by her Shadowbound. No other Queen or Empyrean is "defeated" but not slain, as the text implies there except Marika. And who but her purpose-made hound could even stop her, a God? The one entity empowered enough by the Ring/Fingers to be able to do so should the need arise. - Dominula Village is much like the Hinterlands and the Shaman Village. We find a skinning ritual and a Godskin Apostle there in Dominula. We learn that the "festival" is old and tacitly accepted by the Golden Order. The aesthetic of these villages is much the same, and they're intimately tied to Marika herself. - Gideon gives us a boon in the form of a secret rite known only to him, Black Flame Protection. He is alleged to have peered into the will of Queen Marika, and shuddered at the end that should not be. - The Scadutree is of a dual nature. So is Queen Marika. When Gold arose, so too was Shadow born. Gold and Shadow exist as necessary contrasts to each other, yet in a God, in Marika, this duality exists in coalesce, or it did once. - No other characters are named as Queen or Empyrean that aren't already accounted for/ruled out to be the GEQ, and by that I mean Melina, she was given purpose by her mother at the foot of the Erdtree and that means she is a daughter of Marika, not old enough to be the GEQ but possesses traits of both Marika and Radagon. Eye color and hair color are passed down traits we see in game. Well, sure enough, Melina shows us a purple/gloamy eye in one ending. Inherited trait from her mother, the Queen in Black. Marika's eyes are never shown to us, to judge their color. - Duskborn ending sees Godwyn rise to ascendancy and sees Death restored, with him as the Prince of Death itself. These titles aren't meaningless. Duskborn? The "Prince" of Death? Well, who would the Queen be? If Godwyn is Duskborn, and if he is a Prince, his mother would, of course, be associated with "Dusk" and be a Queen. And we know his mother is Queen Marika. - Fia is hooded with a black cloak and comes from some other land. She also helps create Godwyn's Duskborn ending and is Death-aligned. We see Marika wearing black hooded garb in a statue where she also is holding the twins Miquella and Malenia. Her tattered clothing as we find her at the end is also black. She is also associated with the Nox/Numen race and the Black Knife Assassins that come from there as well. - Statues of Marika in her crucified pose all show her with a flowing black cloth that wraps behind her in almost the exact same shape as the Godslayer Greatsword, which was the weapon or ritual sword of the GEQ/DEQ. You have to pivot the camera a bit to get a good view, but the shape is very similar. Coiled and then open, with one flap slightly longer than the other, same tip design on the Godslayer Greatsword. It's possible that she was propped up by the Hornsent culture and then part of the betrayal was killing other Gods in their pantheon, but what's maybe more possible is as Centered Tarnished pointed out, that Marika culled some other of her "unwanted" children after learning the truth of the broken Fingers and flawed foundations of her Order. - Godwyn is referred to as the "Prince of Gold" in an item description. If a Prince of Death could have been a Prince of Gold, why couldn't his mother hold this potential as well, even necessarily so? We see from the Death Knights that Gold and Death can somehow synergize even still... Gold and Shadow, born at the same time, same as it ever was. - Hewg prays to Queen Marika about his given task to craft a Godslaying weapon. Very interesting and specific task. Marika wants a God slain. He mentions "the sheer terror of Her..." regarding Marika. Godskins certainly take an interest in killing a God. Who was their leader? A "defeated" Queen who was once an Empyrean. Marika. - Raging Wolf Vargram is a would-be Shadow. Wolf imagery is on his armor. He wields the Godslayer Greatsword. The weapon art is "The Queen's Black Flame", of course. A statue of Marika exists in Farum Azula showing her with three wolves. - Marika learned the secrets of the Golden Order and realized her children would "amount only to sacrifices" as she instructed them. She knew the Erdtree was a soul parasite, and by sealing Death away, she weakened the Erdtree over time. She also had Godwyn buried at the roots of it, knowing that he would grow and overtake them, choking the Erdtree further. As he was, Godwyn was an "unwanted" child since he embodied the Golden Order, and she was a prisoner to it. He would end up much like Miquella would, a caged divinity of some kind. She was likely opposed to the Erdtree and Greater Will/Fingers for a long time, weaving plots in secret until the Shattering. She realized, only too late, that ultimate power has a way of becoming a curse when the truth of the nature of it all is finally revealed. Just as Marika shined so brightly with her Golden Order, another aspect of her was as deep as the abyss and as dark as any shadow.
@ALaz502
@ALaz502 20 сағат бұрын
You cooking out here in the comments bro.
@Yes34sumo
@Yes34sumo 19 сағат бұрын
@@ALaz502 He's not. It's from a reddit post and everyone is posting it like the gospel now. Personally, I think a lot of these could be explained by the nascent theory that "Marika and the GEQ were twins like Morgott and Mohg and possibly stole Messmer and Melina from the GEQ". Like, if we didn't have the Lord of Blood boss fight we could easily assume that Mohg was actually just a piece of Morgott like Margit. In a similar vein, the GEQ might appear to be Marika because we don't see her at all.
@ghotiphoti
@ghotiphoti 15 сағат бұрын
@@Yes34sumo There's some very interesting correlations that could reinforce this theory, but it also makes some baseless assumptions in my opinion. Black robes on a statue? How can you tell? What points to Godwyn being her unwanted child? (edit: the ghost outside of the Church of Pilgrimage does) Namely, Melina's older brother Messmer is a very fascinating link. > He wields a shadowy, soul-burning fire that is explicitly an aspect of his being, traits quite comparable to the Godslaying Black Flame. > We never get to see his real eyes as his right eye is plucked out and the left one never opens (like Melina's, curiously), but the Gloam-eyed Queen *does* have a heavy connection to serpents. Messmer has a symbiotic relationship with the Abyssal Serpent, or maybe he just is it. > If Marika is/was the Gloam-eyed Queen, it would make sense that she would want to hide her former identity by scorning snakes. Maybe Messmer was hidden away in the Realm of Shadow because of this close tie. What reason does she possibly have to be scared of the snake, that it would be the sole reason she sealed her own son away? some other reinforcing evidence I can think of off the top of my head > the trailer inexorably links Gold and Shadow, twin aspects that were birthed simultaneously > Destined Death is explicitly referred to as the "forbidden shadow" plucked from the Golden Order upon its creation > the God-Slaying power of the Black Flame was lost when Maliketh sealed away Destined Death. (Scouring Black Flame) > how did Gideon find a Black Flame incantation? "Perhaps the Queen's sorrow was justified?" > in the Temple of Eiglay, the snake is strung up in a manner similar to how Marika is depicted in her Lands Between statues. (shoutout to Scum Mage Infa in their "True Identity of the Gloam Eyed Queen" video for this observation) I also had a theory that the original sin was the plucking of Destined Death from the Golden Order upon its creation but that would be too recent of an event in the world's history for it to be original. Plus if that were the case, Miquella would have gone to Farum Azula himself. Ultimately I think it's certainly possible that Marika is the Gloam-Eyed Queen, but there isn't really enough evidence to say for sure
@AMbradfordfilms
@AMbradfordfilms 15 сағат бұрын
People need to really think about how many examples of split body/split soul things are going on with demi gods and Empyreans. Hell even D, a Tarnished, has a split body. We see Melanias "daughters" who presumably were born from rot blooms, or their petals, Im not sure but the point is I think Melina is a purposeful shedding of Marikas GEQ persona. The crucible can blend and split life and spirit. The revelation should be that Marika divested parts of herself similar to Miquella, the GEQ being one of those parts.
@AMbradfordfilms
@AMbradfordfilms 15 сағат бұрын
@@ghotiphoti There is a finger reader in the Nameless Eternal City (where Godwyns body is) that heavily implies he was an unwanted child. The walking Masoleums reinforce this. We do not see the color of her clothing in the statues, true, but we see her in black in promotional images and her baldachin in her bedchamber is the same black fabric we see all over The Land of Shadow thats draped over buildings; even draped over the Scadutree itself.
@G4MES_Theory
@G4MES_Theory Күн бұрын
Great video, my friend. Unfortunately, my channel is in Portuguese, but in my first and only theory video, I also pointed out the fact that there is more than one Elden Ring. Additionally, I agree with you that, prior to the Golden Order, it is very likely that there was the Age of the Sun. My video was more about the real form of the Elden Ring, and I pointed that it's not impossible for other outer gods to have their own rings. Btw, your video gave me a great idea for another theory! 😅 Keep de good work, mate!
@specialnewb9821
@specialnewb9821 Күн бұрын
The Greater Will is not an outer god.
@G4MES_Theory
@G4MES_Theory 23 сағат бұрын
@@specialnewb9821 Is that so? Then why it's Elden Ring came from space? Why the Elden Beast is a cosmic being? I undertand your idea that maybe it is the god of the region, but it would make no sense since there was another gods wich were worshiped long before the Greater Will... But, if you have an explanation about it, I would like to hear!
@specialnewb9821
@specialnewb9821 22 сағат бұрын
@G4MES_Theory it's a bad translation. the japanese version defines what we call outer gods as aspects of nature/reality excluded from the Golden Order. The Greater Will is above them, it created the reality that the outer gods embody. An outer god can certainly take over and become the essence of the age, becoming a central part of the Elden Ring, but it's still using the tool created by the greater will. The greater will does not appear to care WHAT order there, merely that there IS an order
@G4MES_Theory
@G4MES_Theory 22 сағат бұрын
@@specialnewb9821 Wow! Gotcha! If the english translation isn't accurate, then I bet that the portuguese version is even worse. I will take a good the japanese version, cuz it's not the first time people tell me about the bad translations... Thanks for explaining your point, mate!
@commanderyew2312
@commanderyew2312 21 сағат бұрын
Great Vid, in other words... Indeed
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 12 сағат бұрын
Indeed. Glad you liked it!
@briannenurse4640
@briannenurse4640 21 сағат бұрын
I had already been putting together some of the eclipse/sun realm/ancient dragon empire stuff in my mind but you've connected the dots in such an impressive way, and connected it to the greater story so neatly as well! Thank you for this!
@k2geekd
@k2geekd Күн бұрын
39:20 😭 the translation thing was unnecessary considering people are straight up wrong when assuming the english translation is mistranslated
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion Күн бұрын
Hi haha yes I also considered that. So I also said soon after that "whether she simply left or fled(whether it was minstranslated or not), it isnt going to affect this picture that I am going to paint you."
@k2geekd
@k2geekd Күн бұрын
@@OccamsOnion loved your vid btw tho🙏🏾
@bobilly
@bobilly Күн бұрын
Great stuff. As with much of Elden Rings' lore, it's hard to definitively support or refute, but the internal logic of everything seems sound
@HARBLJONES
@HARBLJONES 5 сағат бұрын
indeed.
@EmperorMist
@EmperorMist 41 минут бұрын
Indeed.
@pupely
@pupely Күн бұрын
I have a theory that Ranni was forcefully married to the Godwyn in order to untie families. Maybe she killed him, but maybe they actually loved each other and committed both to the ritual, Godwyn sacrificing himself for Ranni.
@kevinstevenson9666
@kevinstevenson9666 12 сағат бұрын
If that's true that could make another parallel between running and miquella.
@koalteufel7947
@koalteufel7947 18 сағат бұрын
"Born of a corpse" reminds me of Radagon being turned into a sword... it does look a bit organic no? OH FUCK YOU BEAT ME TO IT GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 13 сағат бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA
@dudeman1983
@dudeman1983 12 сағат бұрын
This had big implications on Metyr's Microcosm having the mesh name "Sun"
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 12 сағат бұрын
Wow, I had no idea the mesh is named sun. But I did have this in mind, and hinted at 3:43, 52:04, 1:14:07 with editing. Of course not a complete theory at this point. So just trying to provoke some ideas with the clips I use. This is another reason I mentioned Metyr warrants a video of her own. Thanks for sharing and catching on to this!
@johnkramer2144
@johnkramer2144 19 сағат бұрын
I love your content. The only problem is that you only have two videos. Good stuff!
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 13 сағат бұрын
I think I know the solution to this problem. Will work on it!
@tyhussein
@tyhussein Сағат бұрын
I thought for sure you would compare Mohg gaining wings from the Formless Mother, with Bayle.
@Xandros999
@Xandros999 3 сағат бұрын
I don't think the "Eternal City" leveled by Astel was any of the extant ones. Indeed, they have not been leveled at all. Astel's lair is deep below the Lake of Rot. In the lake there are scattered buildings from the Ancient Dynasty. If there was a city here, it has indeed been leveled. In general the places where we find astels is in the Ancient Dynasty stratum, perhaps with the exception of the Snowfields Astel. Something else I find questionable is the assertion that Farum Azula was always floating. It does have roads that once led places, including the Bestial Sanctum. So what's with the ruin debris? Maybe there were floating temples but I don't think Farum Azula was always afloat. Maybe just really tall like the divine bridges. We do have that one divine bridge that doesn't go anywhere. Also, why are there so many golems in Limgrave, who may also have fallen from the Sky? So many questions, but you seem to be good at coming up with answers. Any thoughts as who from whose corpses came the Godslayer's Greatsword and the Fingerslayer Blade?
@V1ktorVaughn
@V1ktorVaughn 6 сағат бұрын
Finally, an Elden Ring KZbinr who isnt trying to impersonate a spooky magical british guy. Thank Christ.
@cg3518
@cg3518 11 сағат бұрын
Loved the video! Seeing the link from the eclipse ritual with the previous cycle of gods, layered with the ruins above and below, was refreshing. Can't wait for the next one. You are doing a great and through job with Fromsoft's grandest game World history is a doozy, let alone one inspired by GRRM and Miyazaki.
@steamedhamlet
@steamedhamlet 2 сағат бұрын
Oh wow! I thought those were roots in the ancient depiction of the elden ring in maliketh's arena but they're the strands!
@beansnrice321
@beansnrice321 9 сағат бұрын
Amazing video and amazing work collecting it all! I have been having similar thoughts ever since the recent eclipse in America's midwest. An eclipse implies the influence of a moon. To add to the apocalypses you've already mentioned, I also feel that the Shattered stone talisman and Relanna's twin moon spell imply that one or more moons once struck the lands between, possibly from failed (or successful) eclipse ascension events. Also, The "stars," made out of stone crowns implies that maybe one or more of the moons might have been made from a sacrifice of a very large number of astrologer/scholars. I forget who it was, Scum mage Infa or maybe Zayf the scholar but someone was going on about a theory of, "cruible technology." Where large numbers of people are sacrificed for one reason or another. According to them there have countless crucible events, including but not limited to all of the nox buildings with frozen people reaching out of them. Possibly an event like that created a moon for an eclipse. Maybe that is how all moons were made for every eclipse. I can think of at least 3 moons, the dark moon, the full moon and the black moon of nokstella.
@Kyoujin710
@Kyoujin710 10 сағат бұрын
12:23 when you are talking about the ruins scattered about, you are the first person who made me imagine the erdtree itself, crashing into Farum Azula as it was launched from wherever the greater will is. Which would honestly be wild as fuck to imagine that's why there's ruins all over the map like that
@joesaiditstrue
@joesaiditstrue 10 сағат бұрын
I just realized, the eclipse shotel might be the weapon used to decapitate the soulless demigods, it's shaped perfectly for it 2:18 This could be a clever way to describe the light fading from the eyes of someone who was just beheaded.
@abimaelmontesguardiola2774
@abimaelmontesguardiola2774 12 сағат бұрын
Cool video! I do agree that the GOQ/the godskins are an exceedingly ancient part of the lands between, tho I believe that both Nox and Rauh are descendanrs of the Numen that represented polar aspects of their culture, namely light and dark. I believe they used to directly contact the Greater Will through the use of a third, shamanic branch of Numen who were capable of contacting and manipulating spirits. They attempted apotheosis by creating the elden ring, at the cost og greatly reducing all Numen races and brought about the rise of elden lords. I still have to work out the details, but this is what makes the most sense to me as far as lands between pre history goes
@mintkit1064
@mintkit1064 17 сағат бұрын
What a wonderful video, I really enjoyed it!! Im very much looking forward to your next ones.
@cwill14
@cwill14 Күн бұрын
Props to you for this video. You're really cooking all through this. Great stuff, solid connections that most haven't seen.
@jmbec62
@jmbec62 14 сағат бұрын
You can see the eclipse on Seluvis's hat and the gems on the Godskin robes! I'm sold!
@4blasphemy
@4blasphemy Күн бұрын
nice video, but what i am surprised you didnt say at the end is what clicked for me as i was watching, i dont know if it is even my opinion or something i agree with but i find it kind of makes sense in this context, so the first shattered elden ring might be literally the elden beast, that is why it is "the" (current) elden ring but at the same it is kind of not, one of the reasons it occured to me was because of the spiral on the farum azula ring and the elden stars icon is kind of like the bottom of it (maybe even extending more down, basically falling)
@waltercook3843
@waltercook3843 20 сағат бұрын
Amazing! This may be the most informative video I've seen on elden ring!
@ghotiphoti
@ghotiphoti 16 сағат бұрын
2:20 this is a very interesting interpretation. I originally just took it to mean that with the eyes of a dragon they simply saw things far more vividly.
@K8theKind
@K8theKind 11 сағат бұрын
Indeed.
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 11 сағат бұрын
Indeed..
@EmperorMist
@EmperorMist 41 минут бұрын
Indeed.
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 35 минут бұрын
@EmperorMist Indeed.
@BTVagrant
@BTVagrant 9 сағат бұрын
Well, this Eclipse thing explains all the death-blighted Giants on the mountain...
@thealkymyst
@thealkymyst 19 сағат бұрын
I should go play Golden Sun again. That was a great game.
@calyx_datura
@calyx_datura Күн бұрын
I’m very impressed and I hope this video gets picked up by the algorithm so more people can see it because this is the most satisfying timeline I’ve seen. I can’t think of any anomalous pieces of lore that have to be ignored for your sequence of events and conjectures to work. I think your biggest contribution to collective ER lore theory is the concept of two separate elden rings. You even provided a bullet proof reason for the elden beast to arrive at a point in time that was seemingly AFTER the Greater Will’s apparent establishment of its hegemony in the Lands Between and imposed its order on life and death. I’m looking forward to your future videos!
@castilloalejandro1
@castilloalejandro1 Күн бұрын
Woah! This is what I want to see here, long and good videos.
@TheLeafar99
@TheLeafar99 13 сағат бұрын
chefs-kiss, indeed
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 13 сағат бұрын
Indeed.
@EmperorMist
@EmperorMist 41 минут бұрын
Indeed.
@ripyoshua
@ripyoshua 13 минут бұрын
great video INDEED !
@donotreadthis26
@donotreadthis26 5 сағат бұрын
Could the shattering of the black moon have cause a widespread meteor shower over an extended time period that caused the flood of molten rock that tarnished archeologist spoke about recently? The flood that the stone coffin arks of the ancient dynasty, now resting on the cerulean coast, were built to survive. A flood that banished the eternal cities (and the ancient dynasty) underground by litterally covering them with molten rock.
@donotreadthis26
@donotreadthis26 5 сағат бұрын
Oh and then, of course, the age thst followed the eclipse and subsequent shattering of the black moon and the flood it's falling pieces caused came an age devoid if order. The age of the crucible. Ruled by the gloam eyed queen and the god devouring serpent in enir ilim. Because, what do you think the did with the flesh of the gods they skinned? Marika usurped the age by killing the serpent and ascending to godhood by creating a new golden rune from her body and the rune arcs from the serpents body and form a new elden ring within herself at the gate of divinity where she was presumably supposed to be sacrificed like so many before.
@tythus654
@tythus654 2 сағат бұрын
Excellent vudeo, though the frequency of the use of the word "indeed" - as apt as it has been in the cases it was used in - was a bit jarring.
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 23 минут бұрын
hmmm... Indeed.
@Yrthwrym
@Yrthwrym 16 сағат бұрын
90 minutes of solidly entertaining, interesting, and throughly evidenced elden-lore. Liked and subscribed, thank you.
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 13 сағат бұрын
Much thanks for the sub and glad you found it entertaining! A lot of effort was puting into the script and editing. Happy to hear this!
@hescoffey3999
@hescoffey3999 13 сағат бұрын
I really like this channel and I really want you to cover sum more well known stuff just so you can produce more and I can watch more😂 good luck on the future of the channel, hopefully you make the paid partnership program soon💲💸💸
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 11 сағат бұрын
I really like you too. Glad to have you on board and more will come!
@renendell
@renendell 5 сағат бұрын
I love the name of this channel
@nbmoleminer5051
@nbmoleminer5051 Күн бұрын
Some really interesting takes some which I'm kicking myself for not having noticed myself so seriously well done great job 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 12 сағат бұрын
Thanks haha. Glad the takes clicked with you!
@giacobbosauro
@giacobbosauro Күн бұрын
Great points! Congratulations for the masterpiece! Will watch closely your work, fellow Tarnished!
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 11 сағат бұрын
Please as watch as closely as Gideon would.
@donotreadthis26
@donotreadthis26 6 сағат бұрын
indeed
@tyhussein
@tyhussein Сағат бұрын
I was looking for this comment 😂
@EmperorMist
@EmperorMist 41 минут бұрын
Indeed.
@foreverie2626
@foreverie2626 11 сағат бұрын
10/10 please post more 🫡
@killervic7379
@killervic7379 Күн бұрын
Good job dude. Great video.
@Caesium-137
@Caesium-137 12 сағат бұрын
You absolutely cooked with this!
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 12 сағат бұрын
Whenever I see "cooked" in the comment, I cant help but think of Siegward cooking the estus soup in DS3.
@willazeppeli
@willazeppeli 12 сағат бұрын
Farum Azula situates in a separate time from the base game. The "Last Elden Ring Era" isn't in the past, but in fact being in the future. Note the Miquella's golden hair present on the Ring and the praying boy statue underneath it. The strange Elden Ring is all about the Age of Compassion.
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 12 сағат бұрын
Interesting Idea! But I think it think it would be hard to reconcile with the description of the Dragoncrest Talisman that states "The ancient dragons ruled the prehistoric era before the Erdtree" or that of the Altus Blooms thats hints at the gold before the Erdtree Era. It seems to me the last Elden Ring Cylcle is very much is in the past. Genuinely interested in your thoughts.
@willazeppeli
@willazeppeli 11 сағат бұрын
@@OccamsOnion The Elden Ring represents the Order, I think it could also represent the Time, which is in fact, a loop. Players die and revive again and again, in different cycles of the "Infinite Time Loop". Quote from Sir Ofnir "Queen Marika has high hopes for us...That we continue to struggle. Unto eternity." Hence the past becomes the future and vice versa.
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 11 сағат бұрын
This interpretation fits well with the description of Memory of Grace "It is merely a cycle."
@Xandros999
@Xandros999 3 сағат бұрын
@@willazeppeli What Gideon Ofnir says isn't cyclical though. He's advocating stasis. No one may take the throne. Apparently the fingers that he's been communing with (Lord's Divine Fortification) told him that that's what Marika wants. The Fingers are not aligned with Marika so I don't believe it to be true, but they did have a motive for the lie which I can't quite grasp. I don't think they believed the cycle could continue. This aligns with Radagon's actions who also attempted to deny access and ascent. He's but a tool of the Fingers. Maybe they are doing damage control much like Placidusax.
@heatheroutre
@heatheroutre 15 сағат бұрын
Ah the Lux ruins finally click into place 👁
@heatheroutre
@heatheroutre 15 сағат бұрын
Additionally the shamans eye coverings make sense, especially Marika flaunting convention in her rise to power
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 13 сағат бұрын
Hi! Do you mean the purple eyed Demihuman Queen in the ruin?
@heatheroutre
@heatheroutre 12 сағат бұрын
@@OccamsOnion no but if the queen there is charmed like the purple eyed ants, that'd be an interesting use of the Nox charm. What my "epiphany" was the idea that if it wasn't the shaman village as a whole who uncovered their eyes, then the founding of the Lux could be tied to Marika's escape/withdrawal from the land of the Hornsent control post jar sainthood/ jarring of her village and marked by the removal of her blindfold
@heatheroutre
@heatheroutre 12 сағат бұрын
@@OccamsOnion so i went back to Queen Gilika and noticed that not only is she the only Demi-Human Queen to have uncovered eyes, but also is the only one to not cast any spells
@whimsiquisitive
@whimsiquisitive 10 сағат бұрын
"indeed" 😄
@EmperorMist
@EmperorMist 41 минут бұрын
Indeed.
@nottwo
@nottwo 21 сағат бұрын
There's good ideas in here, but this would be way better if you didn't just make shit up with zero evidence. Why are most of the newer lore creators like this?
@abimaelmontesguardiola2774
@abimaelmontesguardiola2774 14 сағат бұрын
I mean its hard not to do that with a game as heavily analyzed as Elden ring. Either you end up repeating what someone like vaati, smough, or tarnished archaeologist said already, or you go out on a limb on the more vague parts of the setting without too much evidence
@nottwo
@nottwo 14 сағат бұрын
@@abimaelmontesguardiola2774 maybe just let those ideas marinate longer?
@abimaelmontesguardiola2774
@abimaelmontesguardiola2774 13 сағат бұрын
@nottwo true, hopefully he expands on his thoughts in other videos. I didnt see anything I full on disagreed with, but Im curious what his logic is for a lot of the claims he makes
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 12 сағат бұрын
Hi! Thanks for checking the vid out and am glad you are able to find some ideas that are to your liking. Would you mind bringing up the points that you found "made up", I might able to use it as an opportunity shed some more light.
@madeline6951
@madeline6951 8 сағат бұрын
@@nottwo dude tf I've seen some creators literally just going off and constructing their interpretation on vibes/themes/metaphors. And, mind you, that's not "strictly wrong", that's just a different way of engaging with the media. This channel constantly presents item description and environmental storytelling, while trying to make as few assumptions as possible to tie this all together. Not only are you a dick, but you're literally wrong..??
@maalikwholaughs3941
@maalikwholaughs3941 Күн бұрын
Also to mention an Eclipse also visually looks like a Black Hole, Red = Sun while Blue = Moon and we get a Purple Black Hole, ( Gravity Sorcery often resembles a Black Hole) remember Eternal darkness can suck up sorcery, so can The Moon Sorcery of Ranni and Rennalla, their effects suck up Incantations and Sorcery, like a Black Hole.
@lady__lefay
@lady__lefay Күн бұрын
I don’t think I have had my mind blown so many times in an hour. Great vid! I’m hungry for more!
@K8theKind
@K8theKind 11 сағат бұрын
Yes indeed, glorious, exquisite masterpiece. Spreading this around. Thank you for the colossal effort getting your thoughts and analysis out, priceless contribution to the community in largely dry times. 💜🫧
@OccamsOnion
@OccamsOnion 11 сағат бұрын
That would be much appreciated! Much thanks for the high praise! I guess not having enough time to make it quick enough somehow worked out then haha.
@K8theKind
@K8theKind 10 сағат бұрын
@@OccamsOnion I happen to prefer the longer form videos. They allow for a lot more clarity and continuity as well as structurally cohesive expression of ideas. Definitely will pay off!
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