The Color Theory of Elden Ring | Elden Ring Lore

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@Hawkshaw
@Hawkshaw 2 жыл бұрын
We loved making this, both for the dive into Elden Ring, and for the thoughts it gave us on our nature. What colours do you relate to most?
@inhalants
@inhalants 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck you guys are geniuses of symbolic analysis. Thank you for this feature length feat.
@KosOrSomeSayKosmo
@KosOrSomeSayKosmo 2 жыл бұрын
Orange, brown, blue, and purple.
@mohammad1.45
@mohammad1.45 2 жыл бұрын
Copper truly the chadest of all the colors
@kemasalauddin1604
@kemasalauddin1604 2 жыл бұрын
colourless, as i'm still searching of what I want to be and copper, as I don't see any means to give up my search
@darkmystic7764
@darkmystic7764 2 жыл бұрын
Yellow
@trustrossa8673
@trustrossa8673 Жыл бұрын
THIS is what I want in analysis. Concrete “lore” is one thing but subjective artistic themes are just another world. This absolutely bangs
@caolanmoore4027
@caolanmoore4027 5 ай бұрын
I'd recommend a fellow called TBSkyen in that case. He does a lot of character design analysis focusing on themes and specific readings instead of concrete lore.
@weevil_1457
@weevil_1457 5 ай бұрын
​@@caolanmoore4027THANK YOU SOMEONE TALKIGN ABOUT TBSKYEN, he's how I discovered my favorite game of all time and how I discovered a passion for analysis
@peterl.3794
@peterl.3794 3 ай бұрын
Same, I got into Soulsborne through his videos😊
@banhmyden4994
@banhmyden4994 Ай бұрын
🗣🗣🗣 TBSKYEN MENTIONED 🔥🔥🔥
@wallacesousuke1433
@wallacesousuke1433 4 күн бұрын
@@peterl.3794 Soulsborne 🥱🥱🤮🤮
@theonetrueqstudios5828
@theonetrueqstudios5828 Жыл бұрын
Just realized, the Glintstone bedrock beneath Raya Lucaria has been tainted by scarlet rot; much like the Crystallians in the Haligtree. This has cause its hue to turn a dark mix of blue and purple; purple, the color of gravity. The color that sinks.
@henriquefinger935
@henriquefinger935 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't help that the Academy was build directly above the Lake of Rot.
@weevil_1457
@weevil_1457 Жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD
@themadgamer1217
@themadgamer1217 Жыл бұрын
Very good observation skills, my guy. 👍 Would’ve never caught that, or the implications, either.
@the_infinexos
@the_infinexos 7 ай бұрын
So Raya Lucaria will soon fall to scarlet rot... oh boy.
@clalam5241
@clalam5241 4 ай бұрын
What's stopping the whole land be consumed by rot ? Surprised we've never fought the rot other than malenia
@splunkmastah4609
@splunkmastah4609 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ. Other lore hunters may piece together the stories we see fragments of, but you show the subtle ones, the ones that the rest of us don't see. Truly amazing work.
@TheTalesOfRyujin
@TheTalesOfRyujin 2 жыл бұрын
It’s honestly CRIMINAL how underrated he is
@applesauce9982
@applesauce9982 2 жыл бұрын
Best souls lore KZbinr
@limb-o7180
@limb-o7180 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTalesOfRyujin if you think he's criminally underrated then check out The Tarnished Archeologist's documentaries.
@TheCountOfMommysCrisco
@TheCountOfMommysCrisco Жыл бұрын
My only problem with this theory is that it's nearly impossible to dissect lore from basic use of color as a game-design tool.
@johnnhoj1950
@johnnhoj1950 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t see it because it’s pretty arbitrary and self-confirming
@zackdoom
@zackdoom Жыл бұрын
I’m 45 minutes in and this is the most well written, researched, explained, and thought out videos on Elden ring I have ever seen. Deserves at least a milli views Beautiful work
@alexandercox9004
@alexandercox9004 Жыл бұрын
Nah, it deserves at least a view per copy of Elden Ring sold.
@VincentVanZigel
@VincentVanZigel 2 жыл бұрын
I am absolutely speechless at the amount of thought, time and effort put into this video. It is absolutely glorious and inspiring. I've never thought that ER would contain such subtlety. No complement would do this video justice, so I'll just say one word - awesome.
@lukemarks3281
@lukemarks3281 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Geetarit
@Geetarit Жыл бұрын
I replayed ds3 for the first time in a few years. I was shocked at how stark and bleak the colors and visuals are compared to the hyper saturated lands between. This is such a great commentary on why
@scottsmith3804
@scottsmith3804 Жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. I was playing ds3 for the first time when Elden ring was announced, and made myself finish it before starting ER. I remember starting ER up like the weekend after I finished DS3 and being astonished by how beautifully intense the colors were in comparison to ds3
@marcellosilva9286
@marcellosilva9286 11 ай бұрын
Despite being very colourful, Elden Ring is still a very dark and gritty game, it's basically a middle finger to all the people that claimed the piss-filtered games from the seventh generation were "grittier", I like how Miyazaki changed his mind about colour, going from the very desaturated Demon's Souls to the colourful Elden Ring.
@ashleymcmillan3379
@ashleymcmillan3379 3 ай бұрын
​@@marcellosilva9286 Demon's Souls was not desaturated. It was naturalist in color.
@Xanderj89
@Xanderj89 3 ай бұрын
@@ashleymcmillan3379maybe he played it on a tv with bad black levels, which honestly would have been typical when it came out so on a crt it probably looked faded af just because the blacks were greys
@ContextDependent
@ContextDependent 2 жыл бұрын
I can only admire From's sofisticated and intertwined storytelling design. Also, the eyes and interest one must have to think, grasp, articulate and SHARE in video format, all its nuanced meaning. Not in the "explanation" sense, but spoken and visually presented meaning. Trully amazing, this is special.
@BURRDAWG_
@BURRDAWG_ Жыл бұрын
It's very primal. He managed to get us to go back to oral story telling. And guessing trying to make sense of things we are unsure if. It's beautiful
@Cracks094
@Cracks094 4 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that everything covered in this video is speculative. We'll never know if any of it was intentional design. It's insanely unlikely, but imagining Miyazaki might sit somewhere, giggling and calling Hawkshaw a dumbdumb because the entire thing is wrong, would be hilarious :D
@ContextDependent
@ContextDependent 4 ай бұрын
​@@Cracks094It's not about conscious, metric, analytical intentionality (if such an expression has any meaning). It's about internalizing principles and manifesting them through art (making). It's not like Mozart calculated every note he wrote. He spoke music. Coherence is just a consequence of clarity of vision, purpose, meaning.
@MithrylMyrmidon
@MithrylMyrmidon Жыл бұрын
"Anyone, even if you feel your colors are Tarnished, can transcend to Gold." These words will stay with me, near to my heart.
@LoafofSourdough
@LoafofSourdough 3 ай бұрын
Words to live by ❤
@XDWASDX
@XDWASDX 2 жыл бұрын
This community is beautiful. Vaati still does his lore stuff, but he’s focused more on becoming the best game footage director out there. The deep dive lore weaving torch has been passed to Hawkshaw.
@basszille
@basszille 2 жыл бұрын
The deep dive was never vaatis thing.
@wabbit2099
@wabbit2099 Жыл бұрын
Hawkshaw has been doing lore dives deeper than others for awhile now. They have a video on DS1 that helped to change community understanding of demons. People mostly accepted the word of an NPC that the chaos flame drove demons to a form of animalistic insanity. Hawkshaw helped show the demons had culture and rituals. To the best of my knowledge, they were the first ones to argue that. So yeah, they have been seeing parts of the lore others missed for a few years now.
@kidfazer
@kidfazer Жыл бұрын
While I mostly agree, SmoughTown has by far been the best lore channel for ER. He produces great videos at an insane output. Vaati has been super disappointing
@vijaydizzle
@vijaydizzle Жыл бұрын
Quelaag is really interesting!
@plasticreplica
@plasticreplica Жыл бұрын
Nah man the community is way bigger then vaati and even hawkshaw. Sooo many people are and have been doing this forever.
@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 Жыл бұрын
To quote Robert Frost: "Nature's first green is gold, Her hardest hue to hold. Her early leaf's a flower; But only so an hour. Then leaf subsides to leaf. So Eden sank to grief, So dawn goes down to day. Nothing gold can stay."
@weevil_1457
@weevil_1457 Жыл бұрын
Gosh I remember first hearing that in Outsiders
@murdurmuffin7872
@murdurmuffin7872 8 ай бұрын
Which is ironic because gold is actually one of the few substances which never tarnishes, decays, or erodes into other elements unless forced to by man. It's a fitting symbol of the eternal.
@TheKrensada
@TheKrensada 3 ай бұрын
What a bunch of useless gibberish.
@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962
@falgalhutkinsmarzcal3962 3 ай бұрын
@@TheKrensada go chase Morgan le Fay down a crypt, Merlin. The dragon does not care.
@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike
@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike 3 ай бұрын
And to paraphrase Alan Ginsberg: 'I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked... ... Peyote solidities of halls, backyard green tree cemetery dawns, wine drunkenness over the rooftops, storefront boroughs of teahead joyride neon blinking traffic light, sun and moon and tree vibrations in the roaring winter dusks of Brooklyn, ashcan rantings and kind king light of mind... ... who talked continuously seventy hours from park to pad to bar to Bellevue to museum to the Brooklyn Bridge, a lost battalion of platonic conversationalists jumping down the stoops off fire escapes off windowsills off Empire State out of the moon, yacketayakking screaming vomiting whispering facts and memories and anecdotes and eyeball kicks and shocks of hospitals and jails and wars, whole intellects disgorged in total recall for seven days and nights with brilliant eyes, meat for the Synagogue cast on the pavement... ... who studied Plotinus Poe St. John of the Cross telepathy and bop kabbalah because the cosmos instinctively vibrated at their feet in Kansas... ... who wept at the romance of the streets with their pushcarts full of onions and bad music... ... Who scribbled all night rocking and rolling over lofty incantations which in the yellow morning were stanzas of gibberish...' Fairly sure I could eek out some relevant parallels to this vid/Elden Ring at large with these select paraphrasings - but - if we're talking poetry, I'm all about Alan Ginsberg... To me, he is the true Elden Lord. P.S. And this addition is strictly just another example of my admiration of poetry - truth telling in its most abstract form, yet somehow, the most accurate way to describe life and its endeavors - unafraid to boldly and confidently suggest what should be done AND what NOT to do: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3nNYWSpnc6Mfacsi=o5fh0qiULPNrkvuN
@mrreemann8313
@mrreemann8313 2 жыл бұрын
at 1:08:00 just thought about the red lantern mentioned by Helphen's Steeple, and the red glow emitted by the Tibia Mariner when he calls forth the dead. Red is vitality, vigor, warmth and life. The dead must surely crave the warm flame of life.
@Late0NightPC
@Late0NightPC Жыл бұрын
Similarly, the unalloyed Gold Miquella is known for is pure gold. An alloy is made when a metal mixes with other metals to strengthen it. Unalloyed Gold is weaker than alloyed gold, but it is pure, untainted by any other colors. What better way to ward off the colors of the other gods than absolute pure gold?
@danteblack4627
@danteblack4627 Жыл бұрын
And the crusible knights red and gold but more red.
@triunegodfollower6449
@triunegodfollower6449 Жыл бұрын
It’s also the outer god of death which means the rune of death essentially has its power
@VultureXV
@VultureXV Жыл бұрын
That's what I've started speculating: That Red is not only Death but also Life as well as you _cannot_ have one without the other. This is why, imho, when a fragment of Death was stolen the Erdtree released seeds, as this was the only point where new life could have been made. This also explains the weird "offshoot" phenomena as offshoots are essentially 'clones' of a particular plant, sort of like how runners of a strawberry branch off. To me, this was always an attempt to create new life by making new souls yet failing to do so to completion. This is why offshoots come off looking like small clones, character-wise at least, no "new" life can be made life is "recycled" rather than created new. Then again, this makes sense to me from the principle of what the Greater Will enjoys: total order. New life is chaotic, a chaotic mix of gametes into a chaotic swirling of genes into a chaotic mad dash to split cells. Such things must be abhorrent to a creature of pure order, with too many variables of instances of unconstrained growth. It's much more orderly to take an old product, recycle it into essentially the same product; nothing is lost yet nothing is gained. This is why Those Who Live In Death are also despised by the Greater Will and the Golden Order, they are a mirror of the futility of the system of order. They simply choose not to be rehashed anymore knowing that they'll just come back the same. It defies the principle of "new death" that the Golden Order established through Erdtree burial.
@SinHurr
@SinHurr Жыл бұрын
Bearer Seek Seek Lest
@sleep_enjoyer13
@sleep_enjoyer13 Жыл бұрын
This video is phenomenal. Really gets the cogs turning. Godfrey/ Hourah Loux is such a complicated and interesting character, aside from being an awesome boss as well. Always a joy seeing the background details and From's subtlety in framing or defining his story, a story which is represented in his soundtrack as well. Earned a sub and lifelong fan
@mrloboto
@mrloboto Жыл бұрын
Staggering depth of analysis, visuals and thoughtful editing. If only humans could perceive more colours so the video could've been longer. Though if it never stopped we wouldn't have that touching ending. Bloody well done.
@omega_sol
@omega_sol Жыл бұрын
I cannot believe this. This is a milestone of lore theory and philosophy. Simply outstanding.
@declancampbell1277
@declancampbell1277 Жыл бұрын
ive just commented this on the video, but i dont understand what you mean? its just basic colour theory and how the game adheres to it. The large marjority of every media uses these techniques to communicate things with the viewer
@omega_sol
@omega_sol Жыл бұрын
@@declancampbell1277 This sounds like you've just watched the beginning part about HP, FP and stamina and nothing else. Sure, many types of media base their colors on our associations with them to guide our emotions and comprehension. But Elden Ring goes further than that. Some of them match up with real life interpretations of colors. But all of them? Red is also associated with fear, purple with power or luxury, yellow with hope etc. These don't match up with the video or Elden Ring. And what about black, white, copper, gold? The overlapping and interactions of these colors and states? It feels less like they just based colors on human association and color theory and more like they used these elements to create consistent laws of nature for a fictional world, with some of their own twists and ideas. A fictional kind of alchemy. Creating a system like this that is internally consistent is very impressive. So is understanding it. Even with some understanding about color, it can mostly go unnoticed. Which is why I like this video so much.
@Akira-kd6us
@Akira-kd6us Жыл бұрын
@@omega_sol Exactly. The depth in games made by FromSoft is just insane, and the lore experts who unravel and do presentations of the lore and the world made by Miyazaki that is impossible for most to unravel is also damn insane, if not more insane lol. It's really impressive.
@timfw2496
@timfw2496 2 жыл бұрын
So i'm a big fan of Martin’s work, and just for some context: He often mentions eye color. There is a God worshipped in Braavos whose priests only wear white and black, and their god is a many faced god, and all the gods are, they believe, their god in different guises. George R R Martin also said in an interview: "Fire is love, fire is passion, fire is sexual ardor and all of these things”… This video really made me respect how much Martin did for the foundation of the world in Elden. He’s obsessed with color. The seven gods of his books..seven colors.. Martin also said he’s been inspired by Robert Frost's poem, which i think speaks for itself: Nature’s first green is gold, Her hardest hue to hold. Her early leaf’s a flower; But only so an hour. Then leaf subsides to leaf. So Eden sank to grief, So dawn goes down to day. Nothing gold can stay. Thankyou for this video!
@empyrealcultist1992
@empyrealcultist1992 Жыл бұрын
Fuck grrm! But thanks for sharing the poem, its excellent
@fletcherFraher
@fletcherFraher Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight! GRRM is the GOAT
@Icspiders247
@Icspiders247 Жыл бұрын
Kinda like how he went into intense and glorious detail about diarrhea. Truly highbrow. The browns and their runny consistency were to die for.
@verikoira14
@verikoira14 Жыл бұрын
"Nothing gold can stay". Now, that's a quote that describes Elden Ring perfectly
@Omega77232
@Omega77232 Жыл бұрын
This is more of Miyazaki work don't glorify Martin too much he just built the back stories nothing more nothing less
@hastur2905
@hastur2905 Жыл бұрын
This is genuinely one of the best videos I've ever watched, your analysis is great and the production is amazing. Thank you
@minerman60101
@minerman60101 2 жыл бұрын
Miyazaki is a huge Magic: the Gathering fan, so it is little surprise that color having immense emotional and symbolic meaning appears here. Interestingly, multicolored cards in Magic have golden backgrounds--practically the same meaning you came to about gold in this video. Furthermore, the more muddled hybrid mama cards who's cost can be paid in any mix of colors, rather than set proportions of each color, are devoid of gold entirely.
@ThommyofThenn
@ThommyofThenn Жыл бұрын
source?
@pipersmith2338
@pipersmith2338 Жыл бұрын
@@ThommyofThenn The source is probably actual magic cards, just take a look at any 3+ coloured card compared to the colourless ones you can use any mana to cast Honestly take a look into the colour wheel and MTG colour theory, it's really interesting and worth a read
@kyler.windhorst
@kyler.windhorst Жыл бұрын
@@pipersmith2338 I think they were asking for a source about Miyazaki being a Magic fan
@pipersmith2338
@pipersmith2338 Жыл бұрын
@@kyler.windhorst Oh yeah lol, I just geek out at MTG stuff way too quickly
@danielled8665
@danielled8665 Жыл бұрын
That would be... unsurprising and explain a lot I don't know how to play, but I have cards that I pull to base random encounters as well as large plot points if I'm stuck on story ideas. Make a vague story map, with physical spots for notable events and character. Then place magic cards face down at random on these places. Flip them and work with it! Though it may be hard to fit "ravenous scourge" in a protagonist or wise mentor slot...
@icycrusader1947
@icycrusader1947 Жыл бұрын
On the note of the black and white, during character creation/modification we are given base templates of Draconian for black and for which "...among whom life is typically *short* ." as well as Numens and Nightfolk for white and silver which typically are few in number/potency but have a reference to long time frames and have ties to the Eternal Cities.
@TheL0ngbeard
@TheL0ngbeard Жыл бұрын
Damn it's been a year and I still remember how beautiful Elden Ring was, not just through pure graphics, but through the art design. Now with all the attention to color, it feels like a work of art, as if the whole world was painted.
@theok391
@theok391 Жыл бұрын
9 months*
@lala-kq5ho
@lala-kq5ho Жыл бұрын
well graphically elden ring doesn't have these modern features like RT etc but it still looks gorgeous because art direction is just out of this world
@theultimatep1e40
@theultimatep1e40 Жыл бұрын
​@@lala-kq5honow it does
@samdwichenjoyer
@samdwichenjoyer Жыл бұрын
This is so criminally underrated. This deserves millions of views with how much effort is put into this. Also with how eye-opening this color theory is. I'm otherwise speechless from trying to put into words how much I love this.
@Locaneo
@Locaneo 2 жыл бұрын
This was an absolutely amazing, well researched, well theorized video and you deserve so many accolades. The editing alone must have been hell.
@apeacefilledloma
@apeacefilledloma Жыл бұрын
Seeing the red in the robes in the Rennala fight dim to the moon in the second phase fits so perfectly. You move away from her children, a scene/fight with lots a reds and her kids being her creations to her fully relying on the power of her intellect and in you are enveloped in a world of blue. Very cool
@mistersharpe4375
@mistersharpe4375 2 жыл бұрын
I know you touched upon the relation of Gold with (madness inducing) Yellow a little. The colour yellow has long been associated with mania, sickliness, and the choleric temperament. But, interestingly enough, it is also the colour of safety, reliability, and industry. Especially when paired with black, from the industrious bee-hive to the warning signs and construction. This is a personal observation, but for a while now, I've felt that safety and madness are inseparably linked. In modern societies, we have come to abhor danger. We have come to say "stay safe" in almost the same way that older peoples would instinctively say "God bless". I feel like an overindulgence in safety results in an increased tendency to mania. When one lives entirely seperate from danger, their mental state is ill-equiped to handle disorder when it arises. Or, alternatively, one might become increasingly manic, in a desperate need to experience chaos.
@4blasphemy
@4blasphemy 2 жыл бұрын
hoooooooooly, actually so true
@TwighlightLugia
@TwighlightLugia Жыл бұрын
Not to be reductive of your entire statement, but... that's sort of the exact reason why video games and movies and various other violent media exists. I know the "video games make you killers" discussion is severely old news by now, but looking back, the argument is even more frustrating. One thing a lot of people like to conveniently forget, is that humans are not just animals, but *predators.* Humans are persistence predators who, for most of history, hunted or relied on hunters for sustenance and faced an equal amount of danger. I feel as though it's probably *beneficial* for these types of violent media to exist; it's a way to indulge in these instinctual behaviors in an environment that is objectively safe. It's *enrichment,* the same way a housecat plays with a string or a sled-dog runs around in an open space.
@mistersharpe4375
@mistersharpe4375 Жыл бұрын
​@@TwighlightLugia I totally agree. As much as certain people might like to deny it, our obsession of violence is not learned behaviour, or a symptom of a bad upbringing, it's in our DNA. It's why we live in settled societies instead of cowering in fear of predators. That's why it's hilariously hypocritical of politicians who condemn violent video-games, when they rely on the threat of violence to enforce their policies upon others. I do agree that depictions of violence in media is a cathartic outlet. But unfortunately it's not always sufficient. Young men especially need a physical outlet for their energies. I think most non-combat sports are boring as hell, but they are still a great way for young men to fulfil their more primal needs for competition and danger.
@trashketchum9782
@trashketchum9782 Жыл бұрын
yellow & black is also the color of anarcho-capitalism, interesting that it’s also associated with industriousness/wealth
@rabbidbunnyz
@rabbidbunnyz Жыл бұрын
@@trashketchum9782 that falls under the "madness" category, pretty sure
@Tulip_bip
@Tulip_bip 2 жыл бұрын
i love the surface level lore, as in the actual story of the game and events in the world, but actually diving deep into the emotional implications of everything is amazing. it isnt very important to the overall world, but just studying how different colours can represent more than just a faction or status is so interesting
@oizaklives4996
@oizaklives4996 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Man this was so eye opening. Right when you mentioned "tarnished" definition and how almost every item has a color in the description, so many dots started to connect in my head. Also the part on Godfrey and Sorosh is just really all the evidence you need. It's so subtle but so blatant at the same time. I feel dumb not realizing it myself because it's absolutely everywhere now that I think about. Like Rannis quest takes you through the 4 most blue sections of the game. Luinaria, Carian manor, Nokron, and the tower you flip upside-down. Good stuff man 👍
@billj.8690
@billj.8690 2 жыл бұрын
Hawkshaw and The Tarnished Archeologist have been my 2 favorite Elden Ring content creators... The editing and music selection in the transition to Blue was art.
@chopsandtoots
@chopsandtoots Жыл бұрын
Smoughtown has had some very good videos as well!
@billj.8690
@billj.8690 Жыл бұрын
@@chopsandtoots Yeah Smough is a prolific worker. He has covered so much item description lore. He is a dedicated resource of information to the lore community.
@Pitchfallis
@Pitchfallis Жыл бұрын
While they do theirs in a different style, Quelaag and SinclairLore find additional unique things that nobody else does. It’s a good tapestry along with Hawkshaw, Tarnished Archaeologist, and Smoughtown. Max Derrat also really clearly excavates the alchemical aspects of SoulsBorne to the most detailed level.
@chopsandtoots
@chopsandtoots Жыл бұрын
@@Pitchfallis I love Sophie and Sin! Sophie has done some phenomenal Bloodborne lore videos.
@professorhawk9070
@professorhawk9070 Жыл бұрын
You absolute SOB you've done it again. This video answered nearly every mystery I've been thinking about since playing the game. "A most vivid coloration". Such a strange line. Trina being miquella in the dream world, and what that says about why he's been sleeping and what that could mean for his transformation. The way a certain city is practically painted in grey. Not to mention sarrosh. I'm not someone who has any care for color associations other than how they relate to energy/temperature. I was stuck thinking inside the box. What a box it proved to be. Thank you for the video. The info here combined with the tarnished archeologist's discoveries paints a most vivid picture of the story.
@satyasyasatyasya5746
@satyasyasatyasya5746 2 жыл бұрын
Elden Ring IMHO made the most sense through the metaphors and imagery of alchemy as I learned from some other lore channels. That said, I think the icing on the cake, is this colour theory approach. Alchemy + colour theory truly gets to the heart of Elden Ring, and nobody can tell me otherwise! haha This was amazing! Great job!
@eloryansuavo
@eloryansuavo Жыл бұрын
Just when you think Hawkshaw can't get any better, he uploads the best work he has ever done. Man, after I discovered your channel and watched DS1 videos I can't watch any other lore hunters (except Zullie and few others). They feel like a cheap clickbait. This video not only was a super-deep take on Elden Ring, but also on life itself. I don't know what else I can write here, I'm amazed, inspired, and almost speechless. Thank you.
@notrachelable
@notrachelable Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but hearing "creativity" described as chaos not only blows my mind but makes so much sense. Thank you for enlightening~ This whole video is enlightening not just for elden ring lore but for lore building in general! Very well done!!
@kae5717
@kae5717 6 ай бұрын
I've watched dozens of lore videos on this game and none of them delight me quite like this one does. It has that perfect mix of sounding slightly crazy at the start, just enough to lure you in deeper, and pulling into a deeply, wonderfully persuasive philosophy.
@thedragonknight3600
@thedragonknight3600 2 жыл бұрын
Man. That Outer Wilds music at the end really captures that exact feeling. An amazing video, through and through.
@shmookie1358
@shmookie1358 Жыл бұрын
I don't comment on KZbin videos much but this is one of the best videos I've ever seen. Put this on for background noise and ended up watching every minute of it and now I'm reloading Elden Ring for another playthrough. 100/10
@tangerinefruit697
@tangerinefruit697 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis on ER’s color theory! Very evident from the beginning of the game but no one’s gone as in depth and eloquent as you have. Being a Tarnished, one who has lost luster, is the furthest away from the rich vividness of gold. Awesome video!
@tastyboi2163
@tastyboi2163 2 жыл бұрын
Hands down the best Elden Ring theming video out there. It connects everything together, and yet, it has little to do with the gameplay or lore. Its about the fractures of light that make up the world and what they symbolize. Very well done. 👏
@BUMPER_DUMP
@BUMPER_DUMP Жыл бұрын
This video is such an inspiring interpretation from how much in-game observations you draw on. There wasn't a moment of downtime in this almost 2 hr video, I was locked in the whole time.
@Goldy1243
@Goldy1243 Жыл бұрын
this channel was already one of my favorites due to the detailed and deep dive into the lore of DS1 and it's characters and i was happy to see you making a video this long on ER and despite the high expectations for it this has surpassed it so much, it is without a doubt the most insightful and profound take on the world of ER with an amazing message to it, one of the best vids i ever watched tbh and i am so glad to have experienced it 🙏
@TheAlphaLegionnaire
@TheAlphaLegionnaire Жыл бұрын
It’s been confirmed that the Fromsoft Team/MIAZAKI himself have been directly inspired by Magic the gathering, the cornerstone of which is color. Very interesting analysis.
@soupdemon9414
@soupdemon9414 2 жыл бұрын
this... this is what i was waiting for, every other youtuber just scratch the surface, but you, you go deeper, even more far away of what a normal person will hope, and how i love these videos of yours. Keep with the good work
@briggy4359
@briggy4359 Жыл бұрын
The color is literally my favorite element of Elden Ring. Every frame is an old Fantasy Novel book cover.
@jazza4369
@jazza4369 2 жыл бұрын
3 minutes in and I already know this a special Hawkshaw video, can’t wait to finish and have my third eye opened
@rick.mz29
@rick.mz29 Жыл бұрын
I've gone through this about 5 times already and I find it amazing how wonderfully driven authors are capable of distilling real life into entertaining fantasy worlds. The best keep us engaged in such a way we strive to dive in deeper into our understanding of this mirrored fantasy, simply because it drives an innate need within ourselves to understand our own reality. The distilled version is enticing and knowledgeable but only a drop in the true bucket of life. Also, it's amazing how an enlightening piece of content like this is able to make the rounds and reach me within 2 months of publishing. This is a new age of exploration of thought.
@jackreacher7495
@jackreacher7495 2 жыл бұрын
That last minute... I think that's the theme of Elden Ring. Our own definitions of "order"
@karanhdream
@karanhdream Жыл бұрын
Funnily, the first time I played Elden Ring, my first thought when walking into Limgrave was "OMG this is so colourful and vibrant compared to other soulsborne games..."
@Kaadmon
@Kaadmon 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I just wanted to say that this video is one of the best ones I've seen this year throughout the whole KZbin, and I've watched it in one go. It was a pleasure.
@KittensLeftFoot
@KittensLeftFoot Жыл бұрын
My oh my Hackshaw did it again. This channel inspired me to be lore hunter and I went into Elden Ring completely blind,spent 600 hours on two playthroughs and my lore notes ended up 75k words. And still, it doesn't come even close to this level. This changed my perspective of the world of Elden Ring greatly, especially the green yellow red connections. I actually delved deep into the yellow color myself but I did not think to look a little elder and see the red and yellow connection in rot and the rest of the points in this video. Truly, you guys are epic.
@Syreal92
@Syreal92 2 жыл бұрын
Hawkshaw came when we needed him the most, thanks for the lore man.
@bonarclay6757
@bonarclay6757 Жыл бұрын
You guys actually went nuts for this, pulling apart the themes related to colour, good.
@A_Koenig
@A_Koenig Жыл бұрын
Fromsoft lore videos have ascended into the realms of poetry and philosophy. Truly golden.
@FreedomIII
@FreedomIII 7 ай бұрын
I've seen a bunch of wonderful Elden Ring lore videos from a variety of creators, but this one takes the cake by a mile. You've given me a wonderfully versatile new lens to view the lands between as I journey through it ❤
@arnoluyten3476
@arnoluyten3476 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since Quelaag's video "Red and Blue" some months ago (which isn't watchable anymore, unfortunately) I haven't been able to unsee all the different colours in the game. Very stoked to see someone tackle it in detail! great video!
@Warsm1th12
@Warsm1th12 Жыл бұрын
Everyone who’s played this game needs to watch this video in its entirety, I’m blown away. Getting all misty eyed at the ending lmao. I always had a feeling Goldmask was a heroic figure, and that his ending was the best, morally. Thank you for your hard work.
@brandonjensen586
@brandonjensen586 2 жыл бұрын
Playing the goron theme during the discussion about madness was very strange and unhinged. Well done
@traumateaminternational4732
@traumateaminternational4732 Жыл бұрын
You have drawn my attention to something which, shockingly, I have never heard discussed in any lore video. When you spoke of the importance of the moon, and the contrast between the sun and moon, I realized just how little the sun is mentioned in game. A search on the wiki reveals the Sun Realm Shield which states: "Much like the wear on the shield, the realm of the sun has long faded away." There are those who worship the "eclipsed sun, drained of color" but not the living, red sun. Perhaps an affirmation of the rejection of red, perhaps something more interesting yet to be explored.
@King_WhiteWolf
@King_WhiteWolf Жыл бұрын
Good lord, what did we do to deserve you dropping this magnificent morsel in our laps to enjoy? I cannot wait to sit back and chill to this, what a treat!
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown Жыл бұрын
What can I say mate? Just the top tier of content 🤌
@Hawkshaw
@Hawkshaw Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! We’ve been holding off watching proper lore dive videos until we get our general interpretation out there, the reverse of what we did with Dark Souls, but we can’t wait to watch the unbelievable archive on your channel, especially after the endless recommendations!
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown Жыл бұрын
@@Hawkshaw Thanks my friend! Can't wait to hear your thoughts when you get round to it!
@CLASSiv04
@CLASSiv04 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been on a Souls game lore binge lately and coming to the end of it. Always felt something was missing in the Elden Ring lore discussion. So glad I clicked on this video.
@The_Fat_Turtle
@The_Fat_Turtle 2 жыл бұрын
I knew we'd have to wait a while for something like this, but I'm glad it eventually came.
@JoelTrujillo
@JoelTrujillo 6 ай бұрын
This is the definitive Elden Ring lore analysis. I always recommend this to new Elden Ring enthusiasts.
@ofcatarina
@ofcatarina Жыл бұрын
There are so many lore channels, big and small doing such amazing work. This is perhaps the best macro-level theory I've heard.
@winterlord9942
@winterlord9942 Жыл бұрын
Goldmask would be proud. The true journey was the colors we made along the way.
@wabbit2099
@wabbit2099 Жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm. I have always appreciated your intelligent and insightful videos. I will always appreciate the way you helped shine a light on demon culture in DS1. Your approach to ER does not disappoint. I hope this video gets a lot of views. Best of luck in your future projects.
@EternalGuardian07
@EternalGuardian07 6 ай бұрын
This is my favorite Elden Ring video. I have watched this about 6 times.
@mara.inator
@mara.inator 2 жыл бұрын
how do you still manage too blow my mind with every video you make. Your are by far the greatest souls lore youtuber ever, keep up the great work.
@stevowilliams8279
@stevowilliams8279 Жыл бұрын
Rape
@Your_Resident_Redleg
@Your_Resident_Redleg Жыл бұрын
I think I've watched/listened to this maybe 6 times now? I have always had a deep love for color theory, and while playing the game myself I noticed some of these things but man this video put it all into words I still love hearing clearly.
@davidlejenkins
@davidlejenkins 2 жыл бұрын
The excitement is palpable. I'm so stoked for this
@JikuAraiguma
@JikuAraiguma Жыл бұрын
That bit about being devoid/drained of color is interesting in terms of Miquella. Just like how the nascent butterflies that represent him are used to create dappled meat that can be all colors at once, Miquella had a philosophy that all things should be able to flourish, be they natural or malign… or something to that effect.
@Ziggerath
@Ziggerath 2 жыл бұрын
no one does better lore than you. hands down. vati may have some nice presentation but you have that intense depth and factual research that's honestly rare for souls lore videos.
@Schmurgan
@Schmurgan Жыл бұрын
Elden Ring is a fantastic case study of how to build a world. Thank you for helping to explain it so thoroughly.
@robTCGZ
@robTCGZ Жыл бұрын
Wow... Just... Wow... There are so many ideas and thoughts dancing around inside my mind after watching this video, yet I cannot put the in order. All I'm going to say is that I'm mind-blown by this video. You guys have essentially deconstructed the nature of the whole world of Elden Ring. It's so consistent. I'm just amazed.
@UltirianWren
@UltirianWren Жыл бұрын
This has probably been one of the best thought out lore videos I had yet seen. Fantastic job!!!
@nickmurray2390
@nickmurray2390 2 жыл бұрын
Ima watch this whole thing and have more to say but since im so excited you caught the color connection i am hoping this also includes the sources of lights, such as the light created by a flame, versus the sun or electricity. Then materials like crystals and even blood refract that light uniquely, the outer god of blood craves wounds and if light is needed to refract into it for that to evoke their power it cant really do that sitting in a blood bag of a body. I have been thinking of a tarnished as being categorized by us the player controlling them, and that is the physical manifestation of tarnish on metal, and i think we occupy a corpse in the chapel of anticipation, how the body got there isn't the point how and why we got that body is.
@chewthulu1004
@chewthulu1004 Жыл бұрын
The talk of all the color theory in this game reminds me of figuring out how colors work in a game called "The Void," who's entire focus being that of how color interacts with the world. I dunno, maybe I'm connecting dots I put there in the first place. Excellent video, btw!
@depsius
@depsius Жыл бұрын
No joke, this is my favourite Elden Ring lore video and theory. I love colour theory
@twilights_voice3178
@twilights_voice3178 9 ай бұрын
This....this is a masterpiece, this is golden. However, the process of writing this script and doing the research required either unmatched Madness or Complete Order.
@Hawkshaw
@Hawkshaw 2 жыл бұрын
What's the bet for a DLC accouncement this month?
@TheVioletBunny
@TheVioletBunny 2 жыл бұрын
I think we will get an announcement for dlc over anything else personally
@pebrockk
@pebrockk 2 жыл бұрын
Do people honestly believe it's impossible for there to be no dlc?
@benval687
@benval687 2 жыл бұрын
50/50
@LemurianTime
@LemurianTime 2 жыл бұрын
Miquella and Godwyn I'd hope, Miquella is almost an anti-Artorias in a lot of respects and I'd like to see that fleshed out, as they seem to be the most lore-heavy anchors that have massive gaps
@bascvegobekli3548
@bascvegobekli3548 2 жыл бұрын
My bet is Past Lands Between + sealing the Scorpion Rot God. I expect Helphen + Godwyn and/or Miquela in later DLCs.
@mickel1470
@mickel1470 Жыл бұрын
Your take on this game's lore is unlike anything I see from the other channels. I'm so happy that you guys didn't stop making videos a few years back.
@NeoGato2point0
@NeoGato2point0 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thorough and genius videos. Your videos on DS1 changed the way I and many others think of the lore in that game, and this gives similar revelations for Elden Ring
@trevorcollins1627
@trevorcollins1627 Жыл бұрын
That ending really hit home for me, thank you for that.
@dawny5056
@dawny5056 Жыл бұрын
I kid you not this is one of the greatest videos I've ever and will ever experience. I deeply thank you Hawkshaw for this incredibly complex yet unfathomably resonant message of our essence. That is unity itself.
@raymondzellar5523
@raymondzellar5523 Жыл бұрын
That's a really beautiful conclusion. These lore dives make the games so much more enjoyable for me. Thank you for the videos.
@sethweiss5190
@sethweiss5190 Жыл бұрын
A new 2-hour Hawkshaw Video? Thank you God.
@garyburginjr1366
@garyburginjr1366 Жыл бұрын
I love the subtle and abstract nature of this theory my man. Love listening while nodding to sleep!!
@DavidHill-im2zg
@DavidHill-im2zg 2 жыл бұрын
Intriguing! A world-building concept introduced at least as early as Demon's Souls with "colorless fog" and "colorless demon soul". Interpretation may vary some but I think you're onto something. Alchemy has also been in play with the colors and metals displayed but perhaps both are most significantly magnified in Elden Ring.
@chrisdaughen5257
@chrisdaughen5257 Жыл бұрын
Your description of gold and order makes sense with the revenants. The reason they look like they're sprouting different bodies is because they don't have any runes, and thus, a lack of order to maintain their normal bodies.
@harper2606
@harper2606 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful and unifying narrative, this video is so clear and poignant. Thank you Hawkshaw!
@ATC43
@ATC43 Жыл бұрын
All I can say is this is absolutely brilliant. Just brilliant.
@MajorSebbaa
@MajorSebbaa Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best Elden Ring videos on KZbin. Very concise analysis of the hints the game gives. Good use of color theory. It's super long, but I was interested the whole way.
@senseweaver01
@senseweaver01 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but these videos really help me focus when I'm doing my uni assignments. Thanks... I think?
@solomon9655
@solomon9655 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I never really thought of colors themselves being a big player in the lore but I think you're onto something here. I don't necessarily believe that Color itself is everything, but I do believe that color is important and deliberate with what it's associated with. Here's some speculation I want to add: I interpreted Blackflame as a sealed version from the one wielded by Black Knives and Maliketh, since they're directly utilizing shards of Destined Death. So Destined Death's true color is Dark Red that fades to Black within. The Gloam Eyed Queen once wielded Destined Death in her Godslayer Greatsword, which is now a hollow scabbard, and the Godskins would harness their Blackflame from this very sword. The Blackflame Godskins now harness is colorless, for the Rune of Death is no longer in their possession, instead locked away in the timeless realm of Farum Azula. The Blackflame losing it's Red in favor of White may allude to their power being "trapped in time" represented by White (eternity) and Black (the End). I already held this belief but the color aspect is new to me, so thank you. But I never considered that Ghostflame is also sealed in some way, perhaps cut off from its fuel... souls. Souls that are being intercepted by the Erdtree and denying true Death. The undead in the Lands Between are explicitly what's left behind of soulless corpses. Godwyn being the Prince of Death is a good example, as he's truly dead. His soul was destroyed yet he still... lives in death... as a literal husk of his former self. For his body was not killed along with his soul. True death in Elden Ring is two things: The death of the soul and the body. Which fits very nicely with the theme of duality that's seen everywhere. We're given a direct parallel to Godwyn with the other person who was assassinated on the same night, which is of course Ranni, whom killed her own body but her soul lived on because she chose Godwyn's soul to complete the death "wheel" of the centipede which had two halves, likely representing the body and soul. That was a small tangent from color but here's a question: If Ghostflame's true color is purple then does that mean St. Trina's torch is secretly true Ghostflame. And that the true aspects of Ghostflame are Sleep and not Frost? Considering Miquella/St. Trina's significance, Miquella was obsessed with creating a true Utopia for all, while St. Trina may have been exploring the ideal death. Through St. Trina's dreaming she may have discovered that the best option was the original option, a true and honest death. Her association with sleep, specifically Miquella's alter ego as he dreams, feels deliberate. Especially if the purple associated with sleep is the same as the one associated with Ghostflame. Does Elden Ring consider sleep to be a state between life and death? To bring back my theory on true death, sadly Miquella is all but dead in body, rotting in Mohg's chamber, but perhaps St. Trina lives on in the dream. Maybe his story isn't so bleak and perhaps we'll meet St. Trina in the future, hopefully as an ally. Here's a crackpot theory: What if the Mountaintops of the Giants are only frozen over because of the Erdtree's interference with the true afterflife? The Mountains are a spiritual place, surrounded by phantasms of trees and animals and supposedly has a connection to the Helphen, an important symbol to the true dead. If Ghostflame has lost it's soporific traits and been reduced to dormant ice, then some things associated with ice/ghostflame become more interesting as they weren't always this way. What if the Mountains aren't supposed to be frozen over? What if the Giants were tending Ghostflame specifically? The lore for the Fallen Hawks in Nokron states that they accidentally discovered Ghostflame once they started to burn each other's corpses for torch fuel. What if Giants used their flames to tend to swaths of dead and were technically gatekeepers to the afterlife? It seemed odd to me that Giants would live in such harsh conditions with no architecture of their own to speak of, but I think before the Mountains froze over it might have been a fantastical realm of violet spirits and buildings, all hanging in the balance of this delicate system. Not quite physically there, but you could still touch it, like it's between life and death. This could explain the giant corpses in the Eternal Cities, as giants were important religious figures to many. While they lived they may have been leaders that conducted funerals with Giant's Flame. This also helps explain why Marika wanted the Giants dead so badly. It wasn't just the fire she feared, but the afterlife they tended to. It's direct competition with her Golden Order. By killing all of the Giants and snuffing the Flame of Ruin, she cut off the world from the true afterlife. Miquella, seeking an order better than the Golden Order, may have discovered the original way of the world while he dreamt. It's possible that the Haligtree stands where the Helphen would in the afterlife (assuming it's a tree), similar to the Erdtree standing where the Great Tree was (The Great Tree is implied to predate the Erdtree). If the Helphen was truly present in the material world, it definitely would've been burned down during the war with the Giants. And as St. Trina, Miquella may have discovered the old ways of death and embraced it for what it was. Perhaps this revelation would have been the final step for Miqella's era of Unalloyed Gold. A world of truly living, as it should be, as it once was. But before he could awake, Mohg effectively killed him. When it comes to DLC, my money is on exploring the dreams of St. Trina and possibly truly exploring the Land of the Dead, probably in it's true Purple state. I got carried away typing this but it's thanks to this amazing video! Color really helps to tie things together and helps theory crafting quite a lot.
@upperd5985
@upperd5985 3 ай бұрын
I am here a year later to inform you that you missed a sublime chance to say "cracked pot theory"
@KhadiPlays
@KhadiPlays Жыл бұрын
That Outer Wilds theme at the end killed me. How fitting it was to what you were talking about. Also, this whole thing ties beautifully with the so far known story of Miquella. VaatiVidya speculates that the problems with the Golden Order could have been caused by Marika brining in new alloys to her gold by trying to strenghten it, like her allience with dragons or the magic academy. It may also by why the fading gold rots and turns brownish from the mixing of collors. Miquella from what the lore suggest was trying to form a whole new world order and was accepting of all creatures, good or bad. The difference is he wasn't trying to add them to his "gold", and so he was called "The Unalloyed". He is the pure gold. Fascinating isn't it, how beautifully FromSoft used all that to add a whole another level to their story telling.
@ironbadger8985
@ironbadger8985 Жыл бұрын
The gorons theme song fits so well into dominula I will always put the two together now.
@conleycarter7415
@conleycarter7415 Жыл бұрын
Deserves more than 20,000 views. Absolutely incredible.
@Kaijublue
@Kaijublue Жыл бұрын
And here I thought no one could be as compelling as Smoughtown. Amazing breakdown of the colors. 100/10
@knightrandal
@knightrandal Жыл бұрын
This video blew my mind. It also reminded me of Magic the Gathering and how its creations started. Quality content. Really enjoyed this video. It really changes how you see things in the game. I'm re reading and re looking at everything again after hundreds of hours.
@TheGoldenSilhouette
@TheGoldenSilhouette 2 жыл бұрын
I love this kind of analysis. You did an amazing job of delving into it too. Very detailed and convincing.
@snurgumwurgum8238
@snurgumwurgum8238 Жыл бұрын
This video and channel deserves So many more views than it has. I feel this way about almost no other youtuber on the site.
@thegreyemperor
@thegreyemperor Жыл бұрын
I'm struggling to believe this is the greatest video I have ever watched. I almost skipped it but lo' and behold, this helped me understand Alchemy better 😵
@bed22455
@bed22455 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say that I really appreciate the Dodongo's Cavern theme during the Dominula Windmill Village shots
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