The Colossal Ship That Was Going to End WW2 Instead of the Atomic Bomb

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@DMS-pq8
@DMS-pq8 9 ай бұрын
Another clickbait headline that has nothing to do with the actual video
@Charles-k9g5y
@Charles-k9g5y 9 ай бұрын
Just sit back and enjoy being educated
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 9 ай бұрын
@@Charles-k9g5y You mean like the part were it states that planes from Ark Royal sunk the Bismarck? /s
@ggregd
@ggregd 9 ай бұрын
@@robertx8020 And the part where half the images are not what's being described in the narration.
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 9 ай бұрын
@@ggregd That too BUT I could excuse that for maybe not being able to find the right pictures
@BlackHearthguard
@BlackHearthguard 9 ай бұрын
@@Charles-k9g5y Mate, this isn't education. There are so many holes, and incorrect information in this, that I'll be surprised if it doesn't wind up being tagged as misinformation.
@flotsamike
@flotsamike 9 ай бұрын
Why don't people say "after Germany AND the Soviet Union invaded Poland", instead of just Germany?
@BrettDei
@BrettDei 9 ай бұрын
Germany was 1st. Stalin didn't invade until it was obvious that Germany would succeed.
@Charles-k9g5y
@Charles-k9g5y 9 ай бұрын
Because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
@Potato-Eye
@Potato-Eye 9 ай бұрын
If it's not broke don't fix it.
@gk310
@gk310 9 ай бұрын
Or mention Polands annexation of Czech territory in 1938?
@Manco65
@Manco65 9 ай бұрын
Because it goes against the pro communist narrative.
@thewargod1995
@thewargod1995 9 ай бұрын
The Bismarck was absolutely not destroyed by the aircraft from the Ark Royal. The ship was damaged by Ark Royal and Sunk by gunfire from King George V, Rodney, Norfolk and Dorsetshire. The latter of which fired the 4 torpedoes credited with sinking Bismarck.
@harryhanz1690
@harryhanz1690 9 ай бұрын
Which the video stated.
@thewargod1995
@thewargod1995 9 ай бұрын
@@harryhanz1690 No it did not. Check time mark 5:56.
@firehorseweddingphotograph3995
@firehorseweddingphotograph3995 9 ай бұрын
Not sunk by the British Air Service either…🤔
@chiriematthieu
@chiriematthieu 9 ай бұрын
And bismark sailor stated they scuteled the ship after damage to the rudder. So look at it they way you wan t but some could argue the british did not sink it.
@anthonylowder6687
@anthonylowder6687 9 ай бұрын
The Bismarck was scuttled by her crew none of the torpedoes from the British sank her…Dr. Robert Ballard proved that when her explored the wreck
@MrMalvolio29
@MrMalvolio29 9 ай бұрын
I would **NOT** list the Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands as “an American naval victory over the Imperial Japanese Navy.” The aircraft carrier Hornet (CV-8) was sunk, and even “lucky Big E,” the USS Enterprise (CV-6) had to withdraw bc of serious damage. It was a tactical IJN victory, although the Japanese Army’s failure to retake Henderson Field did prevent it from being a strategic Japanese naval victory as well.
@spvillano
@spvillano 9 ай бұрын
Is a Pyrrhic victory an actual victory?
@jacobpunke1269
@jacobpunke1269 9 ай бұрын
The defense of a territory taken from an enemy is a success. The fact that it was done without a full fleet was also an achievement.
@MrMalvolio29
@MrMalvolio29 9 ай бұрын
@@jacobpunke1269 point well taken!
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 9 ай бұрын
@@spvillano”Is a Pyrrhic victory an actual victory?” The answer is yes but the price you pay for that victory is more than you can afford.
@spvillano
@spvillano 9 ай бұрын
@@williampaz2092indeed. 'The armies separated; and, it is said, Pyrrhus replied to one that gave him joy of his victory that one other such victory would utterly undo him. For he had lost a great part of the forces he brought with him, and almost all his particular friends and principal commanders; there were no others there to make recruits, and he found the confederates in Italy backward. On the other hand, as from a fountain continually flowing out of the city, the Roman camp was quickly and plentifully filled up with fresh men, not at all abating in courage for the loss they sustained, but even from their very anger gaining new force and resolution to go on with the war.' - Plutarch, Life of Pyrrhus Hence, a victory best avoided at nearly any cost, as one really gained nothing from it, save losses one could not afford.
@raymondevans205
@raymondevans205 9 ай бұрын
Uh, unless I'm mistaken, torpedo from Swordfish damaged rudder, aft of belt, damaging her steering. You did not give enough credit to there role.
@neilgershon928
@neilgershon928 9 ай бұрын
Bismark was not able to properly maneuver because of the Swordfish torpedoes, setting up so many ships being able to catch her. Rodney could not keep up with the Bismark otherwise.
@garycottone3676
@garycottone3676 9 ай бұрын
That torpedo came from a swordfish flying off the Ark Royal I believe
@raymondevans205
@raymondevans205 9 ай бұрын
Ah! You may be right, if so I stand corrected.@@garycottone3676
@HACM-mk3qx
@HACM-mk3qx 9 ай бұрын
Also, it was their objective to slow down Bismarck, not sink her, so KGV and Repulse could engage with help from PoW and the 2 cruisers.
@sharzadgabbai4408
@sharzadgabbai4408 9 ай бұрын
Two hits were confirmed out if nine launched. The hit on the rudder doomed Busmark.
@richardsuggs8108
@richardsuggs8108 9 ай бұрын
I didn’t know that our British cousins leased an aircraft carrier to us. Thanks Winston.
@moosifer3321
@moosifer3321 9 ай бұрын
Look up USS Robin for more.Thanks in return for the `loan` of Wasp to the RN in supporting Malta!
@sigeberhtmercia767
@sigeberhtmercia767 9 ай бұрын
That's how we relate! My hat's off to you and @moosifer for your gracious comments.
@moosifer3321
@moosifer3321 9 ай бұрын
I always view this channel with some doubts, however they DO occassionaly deliver the goods, though the pertinence of the displayed is often just `Filler` and, at least to Me, unwelcome - how many times has poor old Barham (and others!) been `Sunk`? Prodigious output of dubious relevance. Stick to Skynea/Drach/etc for accurate Info!@@sigeberhtmercia767
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 9 ай бұрын
@@moosifer3321”Who said a wasp couldn’t sting twice?” Winston Churchill
@moosifer3321
@moosifer3321 9 ай бұрын
Use a `W` when you refer to the Valuable USS Wasp, and yeah, one of the little Toerags got me Twice!@@williampaz2092
@edwardblair4096
@edwardblair4096 9 ай бұрын
That was a very "click bait" video title. It claimed the video was about "The Colossal Ship That Was Going to End WW2 Instead of the Atomic Bomb", but the best justification of the title is that it was going to be one of many ships taking part in the invasion of Japan. While important, that was not ths most significant role of the ship. More accurate might be something like "The Mysterious Phantom US Carrier That Never Existed", referring to the "Robin", whose name she bore when operating in US service.
@johndent8813
@johndent8813 9 ай бұрын
My father served aboard Victorious/Robin as a Petty Officer from the hunting of the Bismark until the dropping of the atomic bombs on Japan....
@rwarren58
@rwarren58 9 ай бұрын
Isn’t that amazing. He fought real Nazi’s that were bent on ruling the world. You a vet too?
@panzerivausfg4062
@panzerivausfg4062 9 ай бұрын
​@@rwarren58 Kriegsmarine sailors were definitely not "real Nazis who wanted to rule the world", just ordinary soldiers doing their duty...
@alfhildsaemunddottir9684
@alfhildsaemunddottir9684 9 ай бұрын
I suspect your father may have met my cousin several times, as he served aboard the Victorious for most of 1943 before transferring to the Implacable.
@ardshielcomplex8917
@ardshielcomplex8917 9 ай бұрын
He may have known my Uncle Flt Lt Kenneth Gray Fleet Air Arm who flew on operations from HMS Victorious.
@andreysemykin5879
@andreysemykin5879 9 ай бұрын
How old are you?
@arautus
@arautus 9 ай бұрын
The Brits found a clever way to land The FR 2 Corsair fighter planes on their carriers. If not for the atomic bomb, they would have joined us with a full-blown attack on the Japanese mainland.
@matttrafton2725
@matttrafton2725 9 ай бұрын
Attacking the mainland would have been folly. It just needed to be blockaded.
@Charles-k9g5y
@Charles-k9g5y 9 ай бұрын
British carriers had metal decks while American ones had wood. British could take a licking and keep on ticking.
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 9 ай бұрын
True but they could still be sunk by torpedo's ...ask Ark Royal when in doubt
@Charles-k9g5y
@Charles-k9g5y 9 ай бұрын
@@robertx8020 -- yes but suicide attacks didn’t effect the British carriers as much as USA ones. Deck could be repaired quicker.
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 9 ай бұрын
@@Charles-k9g5y True so I guess we are both right ;)
@christophermcclenny7251
@christophermcclenny7251 9 ай бұрын
What about the Yorktown?
@Charles-k9g5y
@Charles-k9g5y 9 ай бұрын
@@christophermcclenny7251 -- what about it? I’m just saying metal decks got the British carriers back in action quicker.
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 9 ай бұрын
I'm watching this while singing in my head to Sink the Bismarck by Johnny Horton.....lol Growing up, without this song I would have never learned anything about the Bismarck.
@Potato-Eye
@Potato-Eye 9 ай бұрын
You show your age sir.... Just sing it out loud! Be proud of that epic hunt!!!
@mishaDorjan
@mishaDorjan 7 ай бұрын
Need to listen to Bismarck by sabaton
@woodworkergreg
@woodworkergreg 9 ай бұрын
From the headline, I expected this to be about the proposed pykrete aircraft carrier that would have been almost 2000 feet long.
@pauldavis9387
@pauldavis9387 9 ай бұрын
I wish they had built at least one of those. That would have been interesting.
@BlackHearthguard
@BlackHearthguard 9 ай бұрын
@@pauldavis9387 at least one jetty and a shed still exist in Canada where they started work on making pykrete workable
@Mrbobinge
@Mrbobinge 9 ай бұрын
Victorious loaned to USN? Shocking. Just shows how mere snippets of proud history was shared during Royal Navy service during my 11 years from 1960. Nowadays, Dark Seas footage brings to life the real Navy only imagined from old sailors' yarns.
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 9 ай бұрын
What incredibly live saving devices the two nukes were…
@clintonreisig
@clintonreisig 9 ай бұрын
Murdering civilians
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 9 ай бұрын
@@clintonreisig Yeap…. They saved an invasion that was calculated to cost over 1.5 million Japanese lives alone… Your comment has you come across a naive…, being a bit less myopic… look at big picture … Are you not forgetting the approx. 250,00 civilians per month the Japanese were murdering … 30 million to the day that they were stopped.. & they were not stopped by reason.., the Japanese military had to literally have their nation destroyed city by city with nukes to stop them… I would say that there a damn good chance that near wherever you are on earth the old folks of that nation had to join with others to fight the japanese off.., and that your focus on 2 nukes …, when compared to all the roping of people in the Philippines and setting fire… etc etc etc etc etc. to be a damn insult to them list families ..
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 9 ай бұрын
@@clintonreisig Frankly how about you google the number of life’s saved by not needing to invade Japan…, 30 million killed , many sadistically by the Japanese… While it’s terrible…, it’s is a drop in the bucket…, go talk to the Chinese etc..
@subjectc7505
@subjectc7505 9 ай бұрын
​@@tigertiger1699The lives of others and dying empire, was totally worth it.
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 9 ай бұрын
@@subjectc7505 ..? Sorry I not really clear on the point you’re making..?
@nicholasmoore2590
@nicholasmoore2590 9 ай бұрын
Bismarck was slowed and eventually suffered a catastrophic rudder jam from Swordfish launched torpedoes which led to her being sunk, but she was not sunk by aircraft. She was sunk by Royal Navy battleships and cruisers.
@ncander64
@ncander64 9 ай бұрын
True story, unsure about headline though.
@charlesharper2357
@charlesharper2357 9 ай бұрын
This site always has click bait titles...
@ggregd
@ggregd 9 ай бұрын
Report it and get KZbin to make them stop. The thumbnail is misleading as well.
@donhathaway3234
@donhathaway3234 9 ай бұрын
It’s a great day to learn something new. Thanks!
@PaulP999
@PaulP999 9 ай бұрын
You will not learn anything accurate from the Dark Seas/Dark Skies videos, they are a joke among serious war history fans.
@BlackHearthguard
@BlackHearthguard 9 ай бұрын
If you want to learn something about naval history, look up Drachinifel's channel, or the USS New Jersey museum ship's channel. You're not going to get the real McCoy here, get thee to a library and grab a book, or check out the two above channels.
@AeroGuy07
@AeroGuy07 9 ай бұрын
On the western coast of Denmark, near the city of Esbjerg, there is an old German bunker that the Danes turned into a museum, because they couldn't destroy it. It's called the Tirpitz museum and was meant to house the massive gun meant to be fitted to the Tirpitz battleship after it was destroyed. There are still pieces of the g*n barrel near the bunker, and they are massive. If you ever find yourself in western Denmark, it's worth a visit.
@maconescotland8996
@maconescotland8996 9 ай бұрын
Nonsense at 5:56 - Bismarck sank after being engaged by 2 Royal Navy battleships, HMS King George V and HMS Rodney.
@DMS-pq8
@DMS-pq8 9 ай бұрын
Her rudder was damaged by a torpedo hit which prevented her crew from being able to steer her which enabled the British battleships to catch up before the Bismark made it back to France
@maconescotland8996
@maconescotland8996 9 ай бұрын
@@DMS-pq8Indeed, a Scot named John Moffat is considered the likely pilot of the Swordfish whose torpedo struck Bismarck and jammed her steering.
@panzerivausfg4062
@panzerivausfg4062 9 ай бұрын
Bismarck was heavily damaged by those ships. She sunk from scuttling charges set by her crew, not enemy shells.
@stephenjones6500
@stephenjones6500 9 ай бұрын
​@@panzerivausfg4062 I suggest you look at the photos of Bismarck sitting on the bottom dorsetshire's torpedo hits are clearly visible as to scuttling charges doesn't matter it was sinking anyway .
@panzerivausfg4062
@panzerivausfg4062 9 ай бұрын
@@stephenjones6500 the experts who found and examined the wreck said the sinking was the work of scuttling charges. Bismarck was just dead in the water from all those shells and torpedoes and would have sunk eventually but very much later. The scuttling charges just did it the fast way.
@jackrowe9807
@jackrowe9807 Ай бұрын
This used to be a dependable site, what happened.?
@gdok6088
@gdok6088 9 ай бұрын
The British Bulldog spirit may have been snoozing of late, but once roused will become fearsome once again. Never dismiss British resolve and grit when the need arises.
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 5 ай бұрын
They have no resolve or grit it’s all died out.
@chrismckay9923
@chrismckay9923 5 ай бұрын
Men of Tar
@jasonlaycock9806
@jasonlaycock9806 7 ай бұрын
Great video but why doesn’t the headline match and what’s the big thing on the deck in the picture supposed to be ?
@kimbo99
@kimbo99 9 ай бұрын
"Colossal ship" of only. 23,000 tons that was to stand in for the Atomic Bomb in case it fizzed
@mikedearing6352
@mikedearing6352 9 ай бұрын
The Polish armies began to hold after they retreated across the Bug river, Russia saved the stalling German initiative I'd think
@davethompson3326
@davethompson3326 9 ай бұрын
Given their agreement, German troops probably had orders not to cross into the "Russian" zone?
@cliveherbert9476
@cliveherbert9476 9 ай бұрын
Why does the caption show a post war picture with HMS Victorious with the large Type 984, S band radar which was introduced in 1956 ?
@ggregd
@ggregd 9 ай бұрын
It's a giant Lazer Death Ray that was supposed to "End WW2 Instead of the Atomic Bomb" 🤣
@BlackHearthguard
@BlackHearthguard 9 ай бұрын
Why? Because this channel likes their clickbait titles and thumbnails.
@TheArkDoc
@TheArkDoc 9 ай бұрын
Fascinating. I didn't know about the "USS Robin." Simply fascinating.
@Pinebarren83
@Pinebarren83 9 ай бұрын
Good video, the title and thumbnail are a bit misleading though.
@ggregd
@ggregd 9 ай бұрын
Report it and get KZbin to make them stop.
@BlackHearthguard
@BlackHearthguard 9 ай бұрын
This family of channels is notorious for clickbait, and only getting half their content right. This video is almost misinformation.
@outlet6989
@outlet6989 8 ай бұрын
I always enjoy your videos when I want a good laugh. I grade your videos an E for Effort.
@MBLUESFAN
@MBLUESFAN 9 ай бұрын
Bismark was actually sunk by battleships not aircraft.
@sharzadgabbai4408
@sharzadgabbai4408 9 ай бұрын
The swordfish were coming in for a followii strike when the fleet actially fired warning shits to disingage. They wanted to revenge HMS Hood in kind. They did so, because a progenitor Of Ukrainian Drones crippled Bismark .
@eddieokelly7027
@eddieokelly7027 9 ай бұрын
I think you're missing the point the aircraft scored a hit that slowed her down so the warships could close into gun range
@ardshielcomplex8917
@ardshielcomplex8917 9 ай бұрын
And here I was believing that John Wayne and a troop of overweight middle age "Green Berets" had parachuted onto the Bismark and set explosive charges to sink the Battleship while the German crew were watching a mickey mouse cartoon !
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 9 ай бұрын
@@eddieokelly7027 That's not what they say in the video...they made a mistake
@MK0272
@MK0272 9 ай бұрын
This is true, but only because her rudder was jammed by a Swordfish torpedo.
@tyrellarson
@tyrellarson 9 ай бұрын
From what docu series is the black and white map "animated" footage taken from?
@ronaldfinkelstein6335
@ronaldfinkelstein6335 9 ай бұрын
Ark Royal's Swordfish crippled Bismarck; they didn't sink her. But the damage made it possible for suurface forces to sink Bismarck.
@DoktorHaafurrge
@DoktorHaafurrge 9 ай бұрын
Mmmmm - suurface ships... I like it!
@ianlowery6014
@ianlowery6014 9 ай бұрын
@@DoktorHaafurrge Mmmmm - suuperficial spelling corrections. I lick itt.
@DoktorHaafurrge
@DoktorHaafurrge 9 ай бұрын
Haha! Gold.@@ianlowery6014
@mishaDorjan
@mishaDorjan 7 ай бұрын
Bismarck was sunk by her own crew, to avoid letting the ship go to the English. They claimed the credit anyway
@ronaldfinkelstein6335
@ronaldfinkelstein6335 7 ай бұрын
@@mishaDorjan bismarck had the sh*t beat out of it, buy two capital ships plus a number of cruisers and destroyers. If the Germans hadn't activated the scuttling charges, the Bismarck would have eventually sunk under the weight of fire she wAS TANKING.. The Swordfish torpedo attack made certain that Bismarck couldn't get away.
@WilliamMoramarco
@WilliamMoramarco 9 ай бұрын
The narrator mentions F4F Wildcats and shows F6F Hellcats. Also Avenger Torpedo-bomber, but instead shows Helldiver dive-bombers. WTH?
@martywatson9796
@martywatson9796 9 ай бұрын
So..... what was the magic weapon the caption eluded to? Or is this just more click bait?
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 9 ай бұрын
yes
@wdtaut5650
@wdtaut5650 9 ай бұрын
6:00 "...was sunk by aircraft from HMS Arc Royal." No, it wasn't.
@TPM75108
@TPM75108 9 ай бұрын
Yup HMS Rodney sunk it.
@evilfingers4302
@evilfingers4302 9 ай бұрын
Lucky for HMS Victorious was not in sight of Bismarck, she would wind up like what happened to HMS Glorious that was sunk by the Scharnhorst and the Gneisenau.
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 9 ай бұрын
Different situation ...that would nopt have hapenend
@evilfingers4302
@evilfingers4302 9 ай бұрын
@@robertx8020 no one ever predicted the Fate of HMS Glorious and its crew.
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 9 ай бұрын
@@evilfingers4302 I agree, where did I say I did? I just said that it was not the same situation!
@alexwood5425
@alexwood5425 7 ай бұрын
It wasn't just the nukes that took out Japan. The 2 million Soviets about to kick their back door in was a major factor. When the Soviets declared war on them they were left strategically bankrupt and totally out numbered.
@vernalc2449
@vernalc2449 9 ай бұрын
Soo, I guess "the colossal ship that was going to end WW2 instead of the atomic bomb" was the British aircraft carrier? Even though, as tough as she was, she was fairly average sized? And what was that circled in the clickbait, er, I mean thumbnail?
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 9 ай бұрын
Several scenes of "Avengers" and "Wildcats" look a lot like F6F Hellcats.
@Olleetheowl
@Olleetheowl 9 ай бұрын
Errr exactly WHO sank Bismark? You are a history channel… get it right
@sharzadgabbai4408
@sharzadgabbai4408 9 ай бұрын
The effing RN sank Bismark- swordfish crippled her and battleships finished her off. All you armchair Captain Hornblowers need to use some critical thinking
@josephgallacher3729
@josephgallacher3729 9 ай бұрын
Of the 4 of the Class only HMS Victotious was undamaged in war other 3 were seriously damages, Indominatable, Formidable and Illustrious
@louisorlando9694
@louisorlando9694 8 ай бұрын
It’s a shame she wasn’t saved as a museum ship since she served both navies during World War Two! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🇺🇸
@SatchPersaud-sm1gc
@SatchPersaud-sm1gc 7 ай бұрын
The British have the best names for ships, nothing can beat war spite
@chrismckay9923
@chrismckay9923 5 ай бұрын
Completely 👍 agree. Fearsome names
@davidadcock8717
@davidadcock8717 9 ай бұрын
Dang, I never knew this backstory of Victorious!
@bookranter3488
@bookranter3488 9 ай бұрын
How was the Illustrious going to end WW2 instead of the Atomic Bomb?
@martehoudesheldt5885
@martehoudesheldt5885 9 ай бұрын
Dark seas should get together with Ocean liner Designs. you both do so very well at what you do. you would be unbelievable great together on a project.
@saints16o5o87
@saints16o5o87 5 ай бұрын
Kriegsmarine surface fleet was truly one of Hitlers most costly follies. Germany would have to had built 10 times more capital ships just to match the Royal Navy, never mind the USN. How many more U Boats, aircraft and armoured units could 4 Battleships and 6 heavy cruisers/ Panzerschiff have paid for?
@Macmax7077
@Macmax7077 6 ай бұрын
The Bismarck was sunk by the Germans after the "rudder" was damaged.
@MightyJosh1985
@MightyJosh1985 9 ай бұрын
How was this related to the title?
@TPM75108
@TPM75108 9 ай бұрын
Ark Royal was the carrier whose aircraft damaged Bismark
@ciaranoconnor4027
@ciaranoconnor4027 9 ай бұрын
111 THOUSAND HP, not hundred...
@mikeyerke3920
@mikeyerke3920 9 ай бұрын
I think we all knew that.
@andrewpizzino2514
@andrewpizzino2514 9 ай бұрын
Thought this would be about the Midway class scheduled to be part of Olympic
@BlackHearthguard
@BlackHearthguard 9 ай бұрын
About the only thing that could live up to that title would be HMS Habbakuk, the pykrete aircraft carrier.
@macbomb
@macbomb 9 ай бұрын
"Colossal Ship" You Keep Using That Words, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means
@jyvben1520
@jyvben1520 9 ай бұрын
sadly no second aircraft carrier was so used, it could have been called uss peterpan ...
@Guderian0617
@Guderian0617 9 ай бұрын
Technically, the atomic bomb didn't end the war. The USSR declaring war on Japan did, since the Japanese knew if the Soviets got to Tokyo, they would get rid of their emperor.
@CMLiu329
@CMLiu329 9 ай бұрын
Wow! What a story this is? 😮 However, the Royal Navy may not have any spare carrier to loan.... Should a need arises again in the Pacific.
@AndyAshworth-h6w
@AndyAshworth-h6w 9 ай бұрын
Swordfish from the ark royal blew off bismarks rudder meaning she couldn't steer. She'd already lost fuel because a shot from the prince of wals had ruptured her fuel tanks. It was Hms Rodney and King George that did the damage to disable the bismark. it was a mixture or torpedoes and scutttling that finished off the bismarck.
@robertx8020
@robertx8020 9 ай бұрын
No, it made the rudder jam ..if it had blown it off then Bismarck would have escaped as ONE missing rudder doesn't slow you down
@BlackHearthguard
@BlackHearthguard 9 ай бұрын
They jammed her rudder into a tight turn to port, all they could do, was sail in a wide circle.
@dragonbank6807
@dragonbank6807 9 ай бұрын
Love the channel but geez the boarder line click bait titles have to stop.
@DefaultProphet
@DefaultProphet 9 ай бұрын
How was it going to end the war?????
@rolandthethompsongunner64
@rolandthethompsongunner64 9 ай бұрын
Was the Bismarck a colossal ship? I thought it was considered a pocket battleship?
@ianlowery6014
@ianlowery6014 9 ай бұрын
@rolandthethompsongunner64 The Bismarck was too large for your pockets. Length: 241.6 metres (792 ft 8 in), Weight (fully loaded) 50,300 tons. Main armament: 8 x 15 inch guns. She was Germany's largest warship She was a fire breathing monster.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 9 ай бұрын
@@ianlowery6014 Sunk within a week of sailing.
@Bonjour-World
@Bonjour-World 5 ай бұрын
The tittle is very misleading.
@petergilbert72
@petergilbert72 4 ай бұрын
“… against a seasoned foe [Japan] who had conquered most of Asia.” 😂 Has the video author never looked at a map of Asia?
@brucel4677
@brucel4677 9 ай бұрын
Headline was interesting but misleading
@ggregd
@ggregd 9 ай бұрын
Report it
@TPM75108
@TPM75108 9 ай бұрын
Bismark was sunk by HMS Rodney and it's task force not Ark Royal. Ark Royal is responsible for damaging Bismark's rudder however and that let the British battleships close in.
@rocistone6570
@rocistone6570 9 ай бұрын
Swordfish are torpedo planes, not bombers.
@wrm3016
@wrm3016 9 ай бұрын
Hey, at least the Britts had torpedo's that actually exploded on impact. Otherwise, the Bismarck may have gotten away. ;-)
@SirenHead00
@SirenHead00 9 ай бұрын
3:18 3 inch thick what? 💀
@Anti_Woke
@Anti_Woke 9 ай бұрын
The crew of Illustrious flew 'what' flag? The 'union jack'? What's that? British vessels do not fly the national flag. Usually naval vessels fly the white ensign while civilian ones fly the red ensign but there are exceptions and additions. The union flag is normally only flown to indicate the 'flag ship' of a fleet admiral.
@Johnny-jz5ot
@Johnny-jz5ot 6 ай бұрын
Why Germany don't built aircraft carrier in the second World War
@timgosling6189
@timgosling6189 9 ай бұрын
The title hints this will be a poor one, even by 'Dark' standards. Victorious wasn't particularly large for a fleet carrier, let alone 'colossal'. She was about 10% smaller than, say, the contemporary USS Enterprise CV-6. To illustrate the attack on Bismarck was there no footage of a Swordfish dropping a torpedo? While operating as 'USS Robin', although she was repainted in USN colours and her aircraft carried US markings, Victorious still sailed under the White Ensign. Victorious was not designed in light of experience from previous conflicts. There had been none since WWI, and naval aviation had since changed out of all recognition. When talking about Illustrious class carriers it would be nice to show one, or at least one from the right decade. 2:06 is the 1920s cruiser conversion HMS Glorious. I think you mean the Illustrious class emphasised armor over 'aggressive stances', although all warships are pretty aggressive. Is lacking armor more aggressive? Were battleships 'passive' because they chose not to be sunk by the first hostile shot? Weird. Octuple guns have 8 barrels, not 4. By 'the British air service' I assume you mean the Fleet Air Arm. The armored flight deck did not reduce aircraft capacity. That was down to the fully enclosed hangar spaces and centrally mounted elevators. The flight deck was not 'covered in bulkheads and sides'. Please rehearse and think about script before going final. Why on earth do you say when she was hunting the Bismarck she was 'lacking the necessary aircraft for maritime operations'? She was carrying only aircraft designed for maritime operations, and they did pretty well. Why show US aircraft supporting the Bismarck raid? Bismarck was not sunk by aircraft from Ark Royal, althought they did hit her rudder allowing her to be caught by the ships that did sink her. Victorious was not leased to America. She was detached on loan with a British crew. Royal Navy ships do not usually fly the Union Jack, they fly the White Ensign, as you show. Victorious did not have to go into dry dock at Norfolk for her theatre entry equipment to be fitted; that would have been a gross waste of resources. Is that USS Forrestal at 9:33? Certainly 1960s. Victorious was never officially named USS Robin, that was just her radio callsign and it became an informal nickname. In the UK it's just '8-3-2 Sqn'. 'The 8-thirty-second sqn' is a pure americanism. Greenock is pronounced 'Gren-ock'. The attack on Tirpitz on 2 Apr 44 resulted in some flooding from near misses that put her out of service for a few months. But none of the 14 hits penetrated her armour. No Lancasters were involved on that occasion. Nowhere in this video is there any explanation of how HMS Victorious was going to act as an alternative to the atom bomb in ending WWII.
@jamestomlinson300
@jamestomlinson300 9 ай бұрын
She was given to the Americans to help them out in 1943 and I bet knowing us it was FOC
@dennismoore1924
@dennismoore1924 9 ай бұрын
Once again loaded with errors in video clips. Why do you turn out this garbage?
@foamer443
@foamer443 9 ай бұрын
Well clearly the title was complete click bate.
@Battleneter
@Battleneter 9 ай бұрын
Hmm it had a 3 inch deck
@dsloop3907
@dsloop3907 9 ай бұрын
Who was it that wanted to continue the war until Moscow was defeated? But the President said no...........................
@pughoneycutt1986
@pughoneycutt1986 9 ай бұрын
Patton
@doogier68
@doogier68 9 ай бұрын
Bismarck would have never won the war. Put her up against an Iowa class and I will take an Iowa class
@red7255
@red7255 5 ай бұрын
Click bait title. and not the first time for this channel....
@jakelandry5645
@jakelandry5645 9 ай бұрын
He said thousand
@oneshotme
@oneshotme 9 ай бұрын
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
@Bjawae
@Bjawae 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, it would have just been slow and painful for the Japanese in the end without a Navy- and been harder than Vietnam, while fighting Korea then Vietnam later, still. Not a good look.
@JFHeroux
@JFHeroux 8 ай бұрын
WHY the clickbait crap?!?!🙄
@auro1986
@auro1986 9 ай бұрын
you didn't have a ship like this so you dropped two atom bombs so only you show off your ships
@dbolt6543
@dbolt6543 9 ай бұрын
stop with the misleading titles and just stick to the truth. It wiuld have been much better then.
@butchgeagan9768
@butchgeagan9768 9 ай бұрын
Great video!
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 9 ай бұрын
Can you just get through one video without at least one howler in it? (Ark didn’t sink Bismarck)
@john_smithchiropractor3931
@john_smithchiropractor3931 9 ай бұрын
Stalin and moustached man both were on the same side of leftism.
@Cronoviajero
@Cronoviajero 9 ай бұрын
Clickbait.
@harrycebex6264
@harrycebex6264 9 ай бұрын
Feet and not meters. Another thumbs down for the dinosaur.👎
@skinneramble8613
@skinneramble8613 9 ай бұрын
Some simple factual errors in the script. Sorry.
@josephdelp87
@josephdelp87 9 ай бұрын
So why the stupid thumbnail.
@ChiefMac59
@ChiefMac59 9 ай бұрын
These aircraft carriers were under armed, slow and had lousy aircraft. If they had to fight the Japanese without American support they would not have lasted a single month in combat
@MrRacing44
@MrRacing44 9 ай бұрын
Very cool I’d never read about this !😊
@marcoflumino
@marcoflumino 9 ай бұрын
Sorry to throw a spanner in your work, but no american carriers had wooden top since 1941!
@neilgershon928
@neilgershon928 9 ай бұрын
Essex class had wood decks, built well past 1941.
@lockheedx33
@lockheedx33 9 ай бұрын
@@neilgershon928 I know this because I tripped on the deck of the Hornet during CarrierCon 2023. One of the wooden boards of her flight deck was sticking up at one of the corners. I was ok, but my right leg and arm hurt like hell the rest of the day. Word of advice: never run across the flight deck of a museum ship that saw action in WWII. You'll never know where tripping hazards may be hiding.
@stevefitt9538
@stevefitt9538 9 ай бұрын
click bait
@jim216rtb4
@jim216rtb4 9 ай бұрын
Do you write your narration? It's done very professionally. You should be a popular voice-over artist for documentaries like this.
@travisbunce7334
@travisbunce7334 9 ай бұрын
Another click-bait title, and inaccurate information along with footage clearly not the Illustrious. I honestly don't know how you can release such made up crap and call it history.
@philipcarter6075
@philipcarter6075 9 ай бұрын
It's a shame that the commentaries of these videos seem to have been written by non-native English speakers with a poor command of the language and a superficial knowledge of the subject matter.
@kaimeraprime
@kaimeraprime 9 ай бұрын
WTF happened to this channel, why the click bate. There are real world designs and ships that could have been used for this, the H.M.S. Vanguard or the planned successors to the Iowa class battleships. your going to loose subs doing this click bate BS.
@dromeiro
@dromeiro 9 ай бұрын
No metric? Dislike.
@longrider42
@longrider42 9 ай бұрын
Oh, give me a Break. The Bismarck was not sunk by Aircraft. It was disabled, slowed down, and the rudder was jammed. But it was a British Battle ship, not sure Prince of Wales maybe and some Cruisers that finished off the Bismarck. You should know that, your a smart guy. Do you need some one to look over your scripts first, to correct mistakes? I'd be happy to do it.
@juansmith4217
@juansmith4217 8 ай бұрын
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