The community HATES the kameos. Let's talk about it. MK Mobile

Let's talk about Kameos and why the community hates them. Is there a middle ground?
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[@MANDMK]

Just to mention that I was WRONG about the hard krypt. After doing it myself, the kameo fights are not in the range 10-20, but more like in the range 30-40 % of all fights which render the hard krypt super pointless - no rewards for a very long grind.

[@brandoncarter439]

Thank you, for double checking!

[@DrewTruthLA]

@@MANDMK Krypts are now the hardest thing. I regularly farm the hard krypts to get my gear level up but now it’s so crazy and hard.

[@hamisisalum9539]

In reality, there was a time when you should have seen the real difference between Elder run and other runs in the crypt, you saw the value of your decisions as it is FW survival mode runs they are not the same and that time starts now...

[@gtbxjay_yt]

So basically, I'm screwed because my account isn't strong enough to do the elder difficulty.

[@tomasnikmon8969]

Totally agree with you and if players dont fight against Kameo fights then use Reroll Charm....modifier change 🙂 but only works in second floor elder krypt...doesnt works in third floor elder krypt (only change characters but modifier stay kameo) better than nothing 😅 and I didnt try in hard difficulty...probably works too 🤔🙂and last thing unfortunately Reroll Charm has limits per use.

[@VLAD-zf5vi]

My problem is the slow walking animation on characters is annoying!

[@TruxtonBoyce]

Agreed - it should be a quick attack and quick leave. The slow stroll in and out is completely stupid and takes up too much game time

[@fatkhurohman4696]

Time is time...

[@mazinhussein4297]

Or that the timer pauses

[@1lastemeraldsplash1]

Yeah I wish all characters would just run again so characters wouldn’t constantly be able to outrange others with their basic attacks.

[@thanhnhanvu3675]

Agreed

[@awmcdonald]

Cameo is the only modifier that's every time. You don't see dark magic every time in the krypt... they just need to cut it back significantly and treat it like a regular modifier

[@brandoncarter439]

@@awmcdonald and it’s always added to another modifier. Just had a boss fight with kameo & shielded: good luck getting it done in 2 mins when half of your SP1s are countered. Didn’t help it had the new noob and his minion making it longer also.

[@SkibidiSigmaOG]

​@@brandoncarter439In the support talents, all the way at the end, I believe it's called binding blow, combo enders have a 50% chance to counter the kameo sp2 (defensive cameo,) for 7 seconds. Helps a lot.

[@brandoncarter439]

@@SkibidiSigmaOG I’ve heard it’s not too effective. I don’t think wasting a bunch of talent points to counter a single bullshit, cheap mechanic is the answer. I appreciate the attempt at the heads up though.

[@SkibidiSigmaOG]

@@brandoncarter439 I mostly turn it on for krypts. Other than that, no, it's not the best source of points for say towers/survivor/faction wars.

[@OpenMiker-rp4eo]

It’s not every time but it’s there a lot.

[@trailblazer328]

They said they have a faction wars issue related to kameos which is why they disabled it but they want to implement it.

[@jonal5126]

Just imagine, right now theres a problem with the cpu using the sp attack 2 of the kameos all the time, not caring they should wait like us. It will be very annoying in faction wars. At least we can use our kameos

[@vijaycm7090]

F2P players did not like the Kameo system, since we do not want to spend DKs on purchasing/upgrading the Kameos. DKs really changed the game, players were able to get more Diamonds, Epic/Rare gears with the DKs. By introducing Kameos, NRS found a way to make the players waste the DKs on trash.

[@MANDMK]

you literally need to use DK on 2 or 3 kameos tops. You can easily ignore all the other kameos

[@mathewjohn1039]

And we have to rely on rng and a ton of krystals for a good cameo to drop from the pack. If there was an option to purchase your preferred cameo with souls or dragon krystals it would have been better option to just focus on a particular cameo card

[@Ollie-ks8hf]

To add to MANDs comment, you need to level up the abilities of heaps of regular characters (passive and special synergies) this is why special up cards exist and why it's so cheap to level up those abilities. Kameos also don't need power, can't die, give you a free team buff at 30%, apply a debuff or buff reguardless of what characters you picked for your main team, and even let you block enemy special attacks. A free freeze multiple times per boss match will reduce the difficulty a bit and shield or straight up blocking a special will make a lot of fights heaps easier

[@kombatemobile8408]

For sure, IMO the only problem with the Kameos i have is the use of dragon crystals to level up their special attaks.

[@steniocostafigueredo902]

I think the same way as you! It must be level up cards like those used for main characters too. They should create a way to convert all the useless currencies that exist in the game.

[@the_shortski6053]

Yeah. If I have a bunch of level up cards and no one to use it on, I'd rather put into kameos. I have level up cards for gold specials still gathering dust because every gold character I have is maxed.

[@Ollie-ks8hf]

It's meant to be a new mechanic, new collection, new grind. Complaining that you can't level up Kameo abilities with level up cards is like complaining you can't level Diamonds up with gold level up cards.

[@Jack_Ripper_84]

I hate this stupid mechanic in MK1, and same for MKMobile. It's slowed game. It's a fighting game, not rpg. It's gacha roll for Kameo, i don't want to farm one more time all cards. It's VERY expensive for upgrade. Devs should do 12-15 UNIQUE Kameo Characters with their own moveset and abilities like it in MK1.

[@Darkest_]

Kameo is currently more AI friendly than player friendly. If you are playing in mobile ( without using Emulator) it's quite difficult to do Sp2. Kameo is bugged, even if you tap kameo,most of the time it lags(& many more) Kameo Sp1 & Sp2 should be blockable, unblockable attack ruins Auto mode play. Apart from kameo there are many bugs that ruined other parts ( tower, faction wars, equipment, talent tree,summon pack) After all it's a mobile game, not a console game to make it complicated

[@OpenMiker-rp4eo]

Yeah: in MK1 on console, almost all kameo attacks are blockable except Jax’s ground pound, Mavado’s whip attack, etc., and they naturally don’t debuff your characters all the time. That’s a mobile game gimmick 😝

[@vgautamkrishna5197]

I always parry opponent specials you have to time it right

[@suryasm5079]

Skill Issue

[@2k-Theater]

Yes, the only issue is Krypt Elder. The issue is that you almost have to use Elder partially through the week to get to get one character and two equipment pieces, at least without spending keys. Now I've locked in on the x ray cancel, that's fine, I just think of the players that don't have the equipment to give regen, invisibility, power equipment in there to compensate the strength of the opponents kameos. The second thing is there are over 100 kameos, 100! and you can only use one at a time. No way I want to use countless resources to maybe get one I actually like. I don't hate it, just think they could have been a little better about this thought. Also, auto mode in Elder I just don't trust anymore. I always think what a great instance of AI that sucks.

[@javierillescas4585]

in my case I don't like kameos because I put automode while doing other things, kameos delay the gameplay and increase the chance of failure.

[@Ryan-dh7rr]

Biggest issue I have with the Kameo system is how much slower it makes the game. Each battle takes longer, not just from the enemy kameo if there is one but also your kameo doing its thing and also clicking through the post battle screen. As a result, I run without my own kameo until I hit a battle with kameos. I also agree with the comments about the use of DKs to upgrade the kameos... it's pretty clear the best use of DKs are on summon packs to target tower equipment packs with game changing epics like weather warfare. And one needs thousands of DKs to max out a game changing epic. As such, it's pointless spending DKs on anything else. Adding the gold/diamond/rare/epic fusion up card as reward drops in the krypt was a smart change. But using DKs to acquire and upgrade kameos... they don't seem like a necessary advantage to warrant spending DKs on. Souls are near useless now. It would have been better to make acquisition and upgrading of kameos to use souls instead. What would be great to see is an option to opt into kameo oriented battles for tower, FW and krypt. They would be harder and take more time but offer better rewards (say double reward drops so if it's a tower battle, you get two rewards after winning a fight for a second chance for tower gear). This way, players who are time poor and simply need to quickly get a run done, can opt out and not have the game slowed down. Incidentally, the player's team's AI in Automode seems less aggressive now.

[@Kaipixel]

I liked your point on how to fix the kameo unsatisfaction problem, a new difficulty for the krypt will be a good idea so players that dont want to face kameos in kript still can enjoy the game mode and get good rewards. Another point that can be improved, is that you should face kameos with the same lvl and similar fusion to your kameo. Dont like the fact that i have to face opponent´s FX Diamond Kameo with my lvl 15 f1 kameo. Hope all the feedback goes in result for a Better Version of MK Mobile! 😊

[@ap_atomic_power]

I was not liking the Kameo earlier, till I got Nimble Reptile as a Kameo character. Now I have simply attached him to my team. No need to increase any thing. Just use the Kameo when the opposite character is less than 30% of health and see the magic. All of my team is keeps regenerating for next 30 seconds till they get full health.

[@suryasm5079]

True that , reptile kameo is broken , once u get him most runns are easy

[@khizar1074]

Unrelated but I wanted to mention with noob's blue friendship gear and weekend dad - you can get deathmark on basic attacks

[@awmcdonald]

Horror tower battle 100 has kameo and I saw one after that. Just twice and I'm at 170

[@MANDMK]

I don't think there will be a problem if Kameos are in 2 or 3 fights during a tower run.

[@chieflancewaiters]

I’ve seen it on battle 26 and 100 so far

[@edgarst5265]

​@@MANDMK Ohh this will be the problem on boss fights 180, 200 and so, and they are in towes, but dont say they are not! And like user @awmcdonald said "Cameo is the only modifier that's every time. You don't see dark magic every time in the krypt" thats the problem!!!

[@MaksymBelilovskyi]

Thank you very much for passing the feedback to the devs, Mand. I think, that your implementation is very good and I would like to see it in the game

[@Zanderafk]

Kameos on krypt absolutely DESTROYED my game. I was used to easily finish my runs in hard difficult, now i simply lost on my first or second kameo fight. I definitely hated it :( (Sorry for my bad english, in from Argentina)

[@dksoulstice6040]

Life happens sometimes, and dare I say life sometimes can get in the way of farming Krypt in MK Mobile. On days like this, I may think to myself "Oh crap, I forgot to do my Krypt runs and I can't do them tomorrow morning before reset either" On days like this, I could easily and fairly quickly 2X auto Hard Krypt before bed. Because of Kameos, I can no longer do this.

[@Zanderafk]

​@@dksoulstice6040 Yeah, bro. I definitely understand you, they have to do something about the Kameos in Krypt. And if they don't... I fear what Krypt can become in the future.

[@robstheez]

I think you should only be able to use the cameo once then add cooldowns for each attack , use it either offensively or defensively, say to interrupt a combo or special attack or to do an attack and have both trigger by clicking the cameo Remove blocking triggering completely And have separate cool-down times for the special attacks used, like 40 seconds for SP1, 50 seconds for SP2, and 60 seconds for X-Ray.

[@Aadi-w9g]

Man I feel so old. I used to play mk mobile when the season pass wasn't even a thing. I don't even know what's up with upgrading the gold characters above fusion x. I feel like getting the epic tower gears is easier now I am prolly wrong idk lol.

[@OpenMiker-rp4eo]

I am OLDER fer sher. I’m 45! 😵😱 And I got this game back in April 2015; 2 weeks after it was released as MKX mobile to promote MKX on console! Epic gear fuse up cards are great for your epic gear collection IF you can get them to f3 first. Most of my epics are f2 so I can’t upgrade most of them yet 😅

[@GummyWormeon]

I hate kameos. The elder drop rate in the krypt is great no doubt. But the frustration of getting wrecked and debuffed and specials dodged with no way to counter it is almost not worth playing it. Yeah great it’s harder, but it is also so frustrating and uncontrollable

[@nevzatsf3mkm]

If I knew the kameos would be like this I wouldn't have wanted them. Where are the kameos in MK1? For example Motaro, Goro, Stryker, Mavado.

[@recray978]

Eazy fix cameo system for all of players (brilliant, in my opinion): if you take cameo - enemies get cameo if you don't take cameo - enemies don't get cameo At each game mode!

[@JabkaVlad]

There is actually quite a lot of cameos in hard crypt, at least in my expereince, and diamond ones wreck my gold teams and are extremely annoying to deal with (you need the new talent and it robs you of 10 points). So if before there was a 14k diamond the procces was pretty grindy but managable, now it will be just praying on rng. Your idea on new difficulty is good, and i will be more happy if they lowered the number of cameo fights and maybe made cameo on bosses a chance based thing.

[@MANDMK]

I just did it again. I faced 2 in first floor and 5 in 2nd floor. So I was wrong to say 10-20 %. More like 30-40 %. Hard krypt isn't worth at the moment sadly. It is beatable but it takes way longer to beat and it doesn't feel that the rewards are buffed like in elder.

[@m.hanbey7146]

"BOSS JOKER USING KAMEO NOW..."

[@saamiransari1]

What still annoys me is souls are basically useless now and Dragon Krystals are everything. Was this change actually necessary or is it just another way to get people to spend money.....

[@H0VA]

Souls still aren't useless, you can just use souls to get your dragon krystal limits daily faster.

[@abadeyang6643]

I hate them cause we can barely enjoy the game. Either they're disrupting your combos, slowing the game or countering your attacks. Mehn I've loved this game but I'm beginning to hate it

[@acups58]

for krpyt, you have the option to move around the battle if you really don't want to fight a kameo battle. I don't see any big deal with it other than we having to use dk to level kameos

[@mpampismar9045]

If you move around battles you have to struggle for grinding hearts and dk so it’s make it worthless 👍

[@brandoncarter439]

@@mpampismar9045 yeah, nobody’s talking about it taking 3x’s as long means you’re getting less hearts, the main purpose of the Krypt.

[@Mvnvce]

When you miss 4-5 battles on a floor you can say goodbye to dragon crystals at the end of the run lol. Cameos should not be in crypt. I’m a ftp player and they make my crypt runs so much more difficult

[@acups58]

@mpampismar9045 Yeah, I get that if you skip battles it slows down the grind for hearts and DK, but for me it's about picking and choosing my fights. Sometimes I just don't want to deal with the Kameo battles, especially if I’m focusing on something specific. The trade-off is slower progress, sure, but it's a choice, right? @brandoncarter439 True, it does take longer, but if you're not in a rush and just want to play your way, the option is there. I just think it’s good to have the freedom to do what fits your style at the moment. ​ @Mvnvce Yeah, missing battles means you’re losing out on rewards, which can be a pain, especially the dragon crystals. But for me, sometimes it’s about getting through the Krypt in a way that’s less frustrating. I totally see how it affects FTP players, though-it does make it harder if you're relying on every bit of DK and hearts. Now don't get me wrong cause I played a kyrpt run yesterday and I lost twice (in the same run on level 3 it had 3 battles with kameos and I almost lost all 3 battles) on battles with kameos, infact one had darkest knight noob as kameo like wtf it totally nerfed the strategy/tactics (nunchaku) I was using but if we think about it, we get more goodies than we used from the elder krypt, green chest gives more than before and other things as well. Yesterday I realized I had 10 rare eq fusion cards, which I happily used up. I just think its a good trade off, they could reduce the number of kameo battles but shouldn't eradicate it entirely. About the time consuming then maybe nrs can include a one button to collect all chests and dk after one has cleared all the fights in a level.

[@gropatapouf5998]

Another thing that sucks up my dragon currency, as an F2P I'll stop and I've been playing for 6 years I'm disgusted

[@mazinhussein4297]

I feel like they rushed the kameo update as they had to fix many bugs and change the UI of the game. I am surprised at the amount of bugs they fixed its way more than what is on the list they put

[@llllllllll-bxt]

I love that idea of a new difficulty for krypt and towers for kameos.

[@7701raju]

My only problem is ,it is slowing down the game,it should be fast

[@McDuda69]

Copy-pasting the main roster as kameos is lazy, as most of them have useless abilities, therefore I agree with you: unique characters like Motaro, Striker, Darrius or Mavado should have been kameos instead, but that would involve some actual work from the devs. Having to use dragon krystals to upgrade their skill levels is very bad, especially since at level 1, with some exceptions, the buffs/debuffs don't even last until the kameo has left the screen. Only being able to obtain them from dragon krystal packs is also bad, hopefully the devs will introduce new ways to get kameos in the future. Because of this, I agree that max fusion for kameos should be at most Fusion V. They don't have passives or gear slots or anything unique that would flesh them out. Auto battle was terrible before, but with kameos is even worse. The AI can't possibly play around them, especially the defensive special 2. I know many people, including myself, prefer playing on auto, since is less time consuming, but it's pretty rough now. The auto battle AI needs serious improvements, maybe a customizable menu like in MK11. There is no way to edit your kameo slot before entering the Krypt, inside the Krypt or in the Faction Wars menu. You always have to backtrack to Battle Mode, towers or challenges to set up your kameo. Also, using kameos in Survival mode can crash the game, ending your run permanently (for me it happened after 5 fights in Fatal difficulty). After every fight, you cannot press the Continue button until the kameo experience bar has played its animation. This is really annoying and time consuming. I don't have a problem with the increased difficulty of the Krypt, as long as they also upscale the rewards for Hard mode (and also prevent blue chests from giving a large health stone 80% of the time).

[@anthonycollinsworth7150]

I like the idea but i feel in some parts as kinda new player...it makes the krypt in normal harder and im already barely getting through them and i think its crazy using dragon crystals to upgrade them

[@OpenMiker-rp4eo]

Kameos might wind up OP when maxed or in a later update but they level up pretty fast just by being used in Krypt. It’s annoying to fight with them cos it slows down the victory screen when you have to click to skip past the reward results (how much XP the kameo earned for each battle). Fusions might be a diff story though. I don’t enjoy using kameos much cos they make it take longer to win battles. Maybe maxed kameos can help counter the CPU’s kameos and make the battles easier and faster.

[@chibuikemchris.]

I actually agree with you. I have a few maxed diamonds and with the right setup, I played elder on auto mode in every krypt season. I didn’t even use consumables. Now it’s impossible for me to do so. It forces me to play myself. I just hope it won’t be added to hard tower battles because it’ll be really frustrating. But it’s perfect for elder krypt

[@M_Abdullah_Azeem]

For me, the biggest issue is how difficult they r to get.

[@ihebchabani7292]

Mand plz note that mk 11 kabal passive doesn't work it reflects the stun but it keeps it on you and in sometimes the enemy blocks resulting in kabal passive being useless

[@DrewTruthLA]

You’re right! Mk 11 stun is bugged. It does not work properly

[@ahsvguy]

There are many Kameo fights in the Hard Difficulty as well. About 60-70% of all fights have them Edit: I also did 1 Elder Krypt run. Since I don’t have maxed out Diamonds, I have to rely on good gold cards. So, I mostly use the Kombat Cup team with a 3rd character (Vengeful Shinnok for this run). I never had to use so many Revival Stones before this Krypt run. It was extremely difficult not only because of Kameos, but also because the AI is buffed significantly. What’s really upsetting is that I didn’t get any Fusion Up cards or pieces of Equipment from this run. What I am trying to say is that before it was possible to beat the Elder Krypt with gold cards, but now, it’s not, unless you use many of your valuable consumables.

[@MANDMK]

I disagree. Did hard run yesterday, I would say probably 10 to 20 % of the fights have them.

[@BigHappy698]

Just finished a hard krypt run 9 kameo fights plus 2 bosses

[@MANDMK]

@@BigHappy698 then probably I have miss calculated something. Still though, hard krypt can be done with golds without issues. I soloed it with klassic scorpion (only legacy rares)

[@BigHappy698]

@@MANDMK it's not as easy when 2 of your character are low fusions and easily killed especially when kameo is combined with random tag in but I'm using shield to protect my characters more it's not as bad now but still more difficult then it was B4

[@mpampismar9045]

I’ve seen to many times boss fights using cameos about 5-10 times and my phone almost break Almooooost

[@gautamrout4979]

Beginners dont play krypt elder mode they play krypt normal or hard mode

[@DrewTruthLA]

Kameos are in hard krypt battles too.

[@MANDMK]

I know but in probably 10 to 15 % of the fights

[@Mvnvce]

@@MANDMKmuch more in my experience. Also it’s probably a bug but I had cameos in faction wars lol

[@Tera_DarwinVG1222]

❤, Eres lo máximo, gracias por tus videos. Lo de que dije que “pararas de alabar el tema de las caídas de la Kripta porque los de MK te escuchan” era en juego😅. Saludos 👋

[@gautamrout4979]

Cameo is also good in our team because cameo characters special attacks cannot be dodged by the opponents and we can take advantage of cameos against opponent

[@dmp612]

There are kameos in towers

[@curtis4948]

It’s so much easier to fuse diamonds cameos aren’t a problem even in elder krypt, the problem is the slow walk out animation and unblockable cutscene.. I’d rather them work simultaneously with the fight so we can have a reason to use the block button for once

[@Insomniac1984]

I think NRS should rework the kameo system grinding, you know... offer other ways to obtain them, not just buying them using dragon krystals, the same to upgrade their power on their special attacks. It's kinda weird at first, but it is useful to get a way to block special attacks and sometimes stunning the opponent to counter attack (Lizard Jade with her Special 2 can do that) On the other hand, the Elder Krypt is more difficult, but it seems it is giving us more prizes. I got 12 Dragon Krystals getting a red Bear medal, also you can receive upgrade cards for rare equipment!! (I got 2)

[@OpenMiker-rp4eo]

You can get fuse up cards for rare and epic gears and gold cards. I heard some players got diamond fuse up cards too?! 👀 I also heard that green chests might have DKs now?! I’ll believe it when I see it 👀

[@Insomniac1984]

@@OpenMiker-rp4eo I don't know that, but I can say I opened a blue box and I received just 3 DKs.

[@aitortilla5976]

hey mand, have you tested if kameo x-rays count towards the krypt x-ray stat?

[@SixtySixHundred-1982]

The only good thing I have to say about the Kameos is that they count toward your Kombat Pass task for getting 35 X-ray attacks. If you use you Kameo when you opponent is low on health, it comes out as an X-ray attack, it will add to the overall total, making that a bit quicker to get overall. Other than that, I'm not a fan... Yet. It has just been implemented and needs to be fine-tuned before it becomes an appreciated game mechanic. I have no doubt it'll be made better in future updates, people just need to be a bit more patient. I'm certainly not going to rage-quit this great game that I've been playing since 2015! That'd just be stupid! 🤣 Also, yeah, I'm all for a specific "Kameo Tower" or something similar. That sounds like a good idea. The Kameo system certainly adds another strategic element to the game.

[@OpenMiker-rp4eo]

35 x-rays is easy in battle mode with characters like K Rain with wrath hammer and M Kitana or S Kung Jin giving him the third bar of meter, MoS Ermac with wrath hammer on an all-outworld team, etc. Faster than doing it in Krypt but a bit dull.

[@DaniyarChambylov]

I guess one of the biggest letdowns is how underwhelming Klassic Scorpion is as Kameo. Many players picked him without first reading his character card. Reworking some of the kameos would be good idea.

[@OpenMiker-rp4eo]

Unavoidable snare, blind and cripple from kameos is the WORST! 😵‍💫 😵 And not being able to attack for 10-15 seconds sometimes. In-game, that feels like a long time: boring and frustrating. Debuff gear helps but it’s not enough.

[@oSerpicox]

I agree with you that it's a breath of fresh air for veterans. I'm F2P for 7 years with everything I want maxed but the new stuff so this is a breath of fresh air. People are creatures of habit--they, in general, do not like change. I think it boils down to kids missing to able to skyrush through Krypt while simultaneously TikTocking without a thought. This adds another element that actually requires thought here and there--not sure the players of this game can handle that or are mature enough.

[@milad7764]

Whenever my any character goes below 30, he will receive at least 2 fetal blow now. AI don't let him tag out. That's why elder krypt is difficult now. The last effect of Varmint hat has to be fixed.

[@EN57981]

What a W take by mand, I absolutely love kameos but youre right on the money when you said they should have added a new level of difficulty and keep everything else as it was. There are multiple ways to deal with kameos (perma freeze, talent tree, full xray team and I also believe silence disable kameo use but im not 100٪ sure on this yet). Now I have almost everything on my account except for a few max diamonds and epics, and for me it made no difference, I clear content just as fast or almost just as fast as pre-kameo update, but with the added bonus of the insane drop rate (last elder krypt run took me 20 min total and I got 2 diamond fusion up cards and one epic fusion card + some sellbacks and 1 gold + 3 rare fusions). But I understand the frustration of players with beginner or maybe even mid accounts that have no viable way to deal with kamos and it just makes everything slower or outright stops them entirely from progressing in a mode which they previously had no issue clearing. I think this would be the best solution for everyone, keep the previous difficulties just as they were and the rewards just as they were, so that people with weak accounts can still farm the way they used to and add a new difficulty for every mode (towers,krypt,faction war) with kameos in every game but with significant drop rates for everything important (epics, rares, fusion cards, add only the latest diamonds for the new 100 and 200 tower bosses or maybe give the players a choice of what diamond char they wanna pick out of a set of diamond chars, add higher multipliers to the faction war score etc)

[@냥이랑나랑우리사이]

Kameo in there horror of tower there is Kameo

[@sagarkhot9119]

Helped me winning AMFT 184 and 195 in 1 try so happy with that part, but in krypt facing cameos like SF scorpion, MK11 LK which surely makes it 4 vs 3😢 and just wastes a special attack out of nowhere

[@OddSheep-Out]

It's not mainly Kameos that made Krypt more difficult on auto. It's mainly the bugs with Tenacious Fighter and/or Survival of the Fittest that were fixed and therefore the team doesn't heal as much anymore. Sure some Kameos are annoying, especially the snaring ones. But apart from that there's nothing too bad about them.

[@ShanTsung]

I'm also a 9 year veteran with nearly maxed out account. I hate them. Delete them from the game or revamp them massively. Revamp should be something like allowing players to use souls to buy and level them up, not wasting DK on them at the moment. They should also be limited to 1 user per fight for all attacks to stop AI abusing them like mad.

[@RodrigoPNova]

Mand, the only problem that I see is the fact Cameos are practically impossible to merge, even more so with a limited amount of crystals! They should come in soul packs too and all the crypt stores with hearts, faction war store ! It would be fairer for the players

[@acnologiajunior3366]

hi Mand i restarted the game about 3 months ago. today i beat my firt elder run and i kept doing it and on the second run i received 1 epic 1 rare 1 fuse up epic equipement and 2 fuse up gold cards. just incredible thank you i saw your video about the rewards being better and truly it is. english is not my first language scuse for the errors.

[@acnologiajunior3366]

and on the first i got 2 golds cards and 1 diamond fusion up card

[@BeskmotsKombatGaming]

It's really hard to accept that some things are not everyone.

[@fluffyhorses5062]

The Krypt’s SUPER buffed with this update!!! I haven’t been given so many free copies of Caro’s Guidance and the Wrath Hammer in my four years of playing. I actually begin my runs expecting to finish with an extra 10K coins😂

[@brandoncarter439]

Exactly! i really appreciate the more time and less hearts also, it makes it “challenging!”

[@the_shortski6053]

Is it buffed? I got under 2k hearts my second go around. I haven't noticed that much difference and my luck has been mid before the update. I got enough Wrath Hammers in Hard difficulty to get Fusion 20 and that was before the update. I've done 3 Krypts, 2 Elder, 1 hard and it doesn't feel like the rewards are much different.

[@brandoncarter439]

@@the_shortski6053 we’re both being extremely sarcastic.

[@brandoncarter439]

@@the_shortski6053 I’ve had amazing drops some weeks in Krypt also, sometimes you just get lucky and some people are correlating that with the update.

[@BPMax.]

I don't understand why nobody dares to talk about the subject from the right point. 1- The description says: When you manage to block a special the Kameos appears and does his SP2, that is not what the AI is doing, what it is doing is denying a special out of nowhere by counterattacking with a SP2. That is AI cheating. They have to fix it so that it is exactly the same function for both: players and AI. 2. It is complete STUPIDITY that they have added a COMPLETE collection exactly the same as the one we already have with the same cost and the same rarity to obtain it, no wait, it's worse! because raising the specials requires DK ( but now you earn more DK, forget it, the numbers are light years away from comparison).

[@lazyworld3450]

i just wanted new moves or both players involved attacks..and exclusive kameos like motaro stryker sheeva etc..i am fine with difficulty and the kameo concept and reward rates..

[@MummyMummy-r7y]

Did you see it for those of you who don’t open the green chest it contains 3 dragon kristals

[@ickabod19]

If there wasn’t 3 towers all at once it wouldn’t be as big an issue. The pace is much slower. Which has always been the issue. I don’t care personally of the difficulty. I do care about the nonsense that we can’t use special attacks immediately on tag in. Elder is the only way to get any new drops for the most part. And they increased Sellbacks A LOT!

[@abadeyang6643]

Like why make it like mk1 if they wanted something different then make faction wars online

[@VeNoM.420.]

great ideas for the tower and krypt. i olso thought about something similar: an option to choose between 2 difficulties (normal and hard) for any fight (except boss fights) in the elder krypt. when choosing hard difficulty it will add kameos for the opponent team and increase the resources drop chance for the battle even more compared to what it is now. when choosing normal difficulty the opponent team won't have kameos and the battle will have the same resources drop chance as it is now for any battle in the elder krypt.

[@seeminglynormalnomad6467]

My only problem is that I don't have good enough gear for X ray setups(twice per match, I can at least get off one). The only time I get S tier krypt runs(hard difficulty) is when lui kang has the 1.5x boost cause mk11 lui kang is my highest fused lui kang. Other than that i enjoy krypt even with Kameos

[@jamieg875]

Anyone else finding the harder Krypt modes have higher drop rates though? I can respect that balance if that’s how they’ve decided to even things out

[@F3RDZONE]

Agreed, they should add another difficulty in Krypt for kameos. I'm all in for an Ultimate Elder.

[@thestick2254]

Yess the drop rate in elder is significantly approved although I haven’t received an epic so far but this time they reduced the brutality chance. Last time it was critical hits this time brutality, they do it on purpose. They are not bugs…

[@chrisfall896]

I understand that this video is about cameos, but I have an issue with Towers. They are a lot harder than they should be. I've been playing the game ever since it launched back in 2015. And I don't have as much fun playing the towers because they're a little too difficult. I can still complete them. But it's frustrating playing against cheap A.I. I also think cameos are just ok. I don't have a lot of time to grind the game as much, as i used to so whenever i do play i want to have fun. Not fighting against cheap, frustrating enemies

[@xsxhalo8567]

Hi Mand, I just knew that you are ambassador of MKM, and your voice could be heard by NRS, for Kameo system as you might see in the poll earlier, I'm not against it as long as it brought more rewards in the Krypt and stay (at least most of it) out of towers, but would u pls feedback to NRS about some few changes I could suggest: 1. Add at least one talent to counter or delay the first Kameo attack 2. For the existent Kameo talent, it says apply 7 sec cooldown but not delay 7 sec, it means when applied while opponent just counterattacked player's specials, it won't work. Besides 7 sec is sometimes useless becuz AI can use their Kameo attack whilst waiting for the cooldown (hence suggestion No.1), and you know Elder Krypt AI is the strongest in the game with more agile moves and quick SPs, thus it's hard to apply combo ender if player is using slow characters, change the wording of this talent could balance this a little. 3. Add an alternative way to get Kameo fusion and SP upgrade by souls (slightly more expensive than the main cards is OK IMO), as DKs are very useful right now no one is really investing in these two upgrades. It's true that one can only use 2~3 Kameos to cover all the needs but c'mon full upgrade of SP for 150 DKs is just unfair

[@noob_plays7126]

Why i feel like bosses or bots kameos counter often but in our case we can counter them once then it will take 20-30 secs to recover from their fatigue but the bots are litterally using their kameos like crazy i think you have noticed it where we can counter 2-3 or 4 times in a single kerypt match maybe. Also they should set kameos fusion limit cause we didn't even get to see what kameos bots/bosses are using. Where are people like me who still have no fusion on kameos(i don't know if kameos have fusion or not for now because i didn't get same character kameos till now). I recommend they better show the kameos bots are using or set a system where bots can't get higher level than our kameos, okay these were just my thoughts. By the way i love to use kameos once i get these kameo's at their highest level then i'm gonna show the bots(please don't think i'm saying to real players) who they have messed with. I was enjoying mk mobile then and will be enjoying now too Kameos=Bots gets more hard to deal with but not always gonna hit those bots with their own medicine. Can't wait Lets grind these bots harder than ever Guys. Peace ✌🏽 guys

[@birunrana5819]

Tip, don't use cameo on crypt mode when enemy has modifier to get cameo same level as yours, the modifier is useless and cameo are not that game changer for you but enemy has buff

[@JustIrony]

How do you counter them? I'm getting hit super hard in normal krypt with my mediocre cards. (f9 fire fist lui)

[@vgautamkrishna5197]

If you don't want to buy anything in a particular season you can farm hearts and open krypt junk box it has good rewards

[@mrradheyshyam1]

The main problem of the elder krypt containing 3 floor, it should be 2 floor, Difficult is OK for now..

[@connorstubbs4087]

Kameos totally throw off the pace of the battle, if an enemy is KO'd, the tag in character's tag in attack is negated

[@hangg9853]

Apparently you can use cameos in faction war, if you use the new Batman noob, weird bug

[@CGAPU]

They culd eliminate the first floor of the elder krypy difficulty. That should cut time play significantly (but they should increase drop rate chances, too).

[@NoName-hh9ib]

@MANDMK check this out ....kameo cannot counter attack you....if your character is far away(as its a graple) so if you CANCEL 2nd combo ender of Klassic scorpion....he pushes the enemy away....and you can use sp1 without getting interrupted

[@bashchelik9105]

Again, totally agree with you. The game is so fun now that I finished the elder krypt 15 times until now. And the drop rates are really good. We have to give the credit where the credit is do. They really did great this for free to play players in the last year. Of course there are things which can be improved but in general the game is so much better now, then it was before 1 year and a half. I remember the time when you had pay everything wich is new and everything was so painful gambling.

[@MANDMK]

So it is not just me getting good drop from elder runs right? :)

[@bashchelik9105]

@@MANDMK No, you are not alone 😀. I got more then 20 gold fusion up cards, 20 rare fusion up cards, 4 diamond fusion up cards and even 2 epic fusion up cards. This is such a great improvement.

[@CGAPU]

My drops in the krypt have been mediocre at best (I do 2 elder runs every day). Krypt runs take way too long now, also. I don't mind the increase in difficulty. I just want better drop rates for epic tower and krypt gear, and shorter runs (it shouldn't need to take you an hour or more to beat it).

[@brandoncarter439]

@@CGAPU I’m not getting the drops everyone is talking about either. The DK’s and gear are the same as they ever were. I’ve got some rare and gold level up cards, but let’s be honest if your doing multiple elder runs getting a rare/gold card from level 3-5 doesn’t make it more useable for you. I got 1 Epic and 0 rare equipment (not counting the old/legacy maxed out sell backs) in 10 runs. That almost exactly what I was getting before the update. The level up cards are not worth the extra time, frustration, and less hearts, they are not useful to my account.

[@CGAPU]

@@brandoncarter439 Same. I've only received rare and gold level up cards.

[@brandoncarter439]

@@CGAPU yep, epics might be a little useful to me, but I haven’t seen a one. I’m never playing with maxed out gold characters as it is. Outside of some crazy one off situation, where I need something specific, I’m not playing with low level rare equipments either. I guess I could save up 50 of them, over a month or two and use it to make one piece useable, but it’s not worth dealing with this new bullshit for.

[@osi3718]

Tbh my motivation to play more has kinda died. Its not exactly due to kameos but it seems that with elder being buffed, hard and normal have been nerfed. Blue chests no longer give me dk which it use to do often. Drops dont seem to come as often. I dont have strong diamonds but did with my nest gold team in 4 runs. Forst run i got 1 rare piece among all 3 floors and some boosts. No dk, no epic or upgrade cards. The other 3 were really abysmall. Didnt get anything at all. Not even dk in 2 full elder runs and in my last run i got 1 upgrade rare card and that was it. While i know its luck its a pain that a run like that cam happen. Wich lower difficulties having worse drops kinds kills krypt farming fir me outside of buying epics from.the store

[@Kuldeep-qm3xk]

I just completed 184-193 Fatal Action movie figths, my experience was Much frustrating (DOD, Mk11 team with resiliance, reseractions etc...) with new AI, cuze IDK it just gives preference to Cpu/AI (whether to TagOut, Use SP, also resist DM's, unable to break blocks, Miss Attacks etc...), so ATM i disagree with your opinion for fatal towers to be easier, and also my account isn't Expert lvl nor beginner. But i could give some time, learn the mechanics(I assure u its not skill issue) and again share my thoughts. My opinion about adding new difficulty is Alright, but also believe that other beginners/intermediate players might have FOMO effect and play those ExtraHard difficulty expecting to get better rewards and get more frustrated, and again share bad experiences. Again this is just my thoughts.

[@nicholasdaniel7721]

The Tenacious Fighter no longer working after the match you don’t get back any health they messed with that system just like what they did sometime back that’s the part I got a problem with

[@mehmetsimsek4794]

MAND slow down they just implemented the cameos, that's why they are just in krypt now. They will spawn everywhere in time. I agree that difficulty is not a problem here. When it comes to problem here you go. 1- They take too much screen time. They are here to assist not to be a main character. Sorry but cameo characters taking more time than actual characters is just ridicilous to me. They shouldn't steal the show from main fighters. 2- Opponents in krypt somehow have two cameos turn the game into cameo battle. Right now most of us don't use cameo. Make a calculation including main fighters own tag-in/tag out and cameos how many fighter can get into battle in 5 seconds. Characters constantly gets in and out. This makes the game a total mess. There shouldn't be so much circulation. 3- This is not a case even for console version. Opponent should use only one cameo not two . This is the biggest problem for me. After the cameo first timer is full- all you see are cameos, because of two cameos opponent can spam them forever. When one cameo doing his thing , timer for second cameo attack also fills. So opponent can send them back to back, makes the timer pointless

[@brandoncarter439]

Great points, I agree! It’s not that it’s more challenging it’s it makes the game longer and less fun!

[@mathewjohn1039]

I still dont understand how people are getting good drops from elder krypt. All i got from 4 elder runs were 1 wrath hammer and 2 rare equip upgrade card

[@osi3718]

I think its fair to say they kinda suck especially when half the cast of kameos are pretty garbage due to bad sp1 or sp2 or sometimes sp2 not connecting and u not getting the effect( mainly had this with grapple kameos). But its also how atrong your account is. I use to due elder with max steong gold tram because those were my strongest, domt have diamonds that are stronger as yet and now elder is pretty much impossible for me to beat unless i drop like 20 boosts for dmg and health into it which idk how worth that is. Drops are better which is nice but cant really take advantage of it unless your account is strong so you can tank stuff. I noticed that for my elder gold runs i did today, when you use kameos sometimes the enemy ai reads it and will follow up with their own kameo grab which somtimes comes out before yours, they might do a special instantly or they would tag out and the character that comes in gets hit and a very small chance my kameo grab will happen instantly. Even worse when the enemy can sometimes use their kameo 3 times before you can use yours again. Also we all know that kameos will be more included into towers as time goes on. Might not be in boss fights for ballance reasons but i do expect to see more than what we see now. I think the major issue with kameos are really momentum cut and how the ai ustilizes them compared to you. Maybe a little tuning will help. Also i feel that obtaining kameos really should be easier, have them cost less dk or have kameo packs for souls. Its the entire pool for kameos and insane we gotta invest alot to even get multiple copies of just one. Either way hard difficulty is a cake walk so i guess ill just have to grind that out 🤔 for the mean time

[@ZzZz-i2d]

I hate cameo

[@brandoncarter439]

I just thought of a better and easier idea to implement: Change the level up cards so 1 card = 1 level… that would make the frustration and extra time worth it.

[@JohnnyTest0001]

I think kameos are cool. I wish they didn't make kameos for every existing character though. Another thing is that, we will have to fuse them up, which is yet another grind for who knows how long.

[@fan4rmmars239]

I would really like Normal, Hard, Elder, and Fatal Krypt difficulties.

[@myghoulishheart]

I like the idea but the execution is off. that said, it also seems pretty easily fixable so I'm mostly not worried about it even though there are multiple things to fix. for now, it's more an annoyance.

[@BigHappy698]

I use to get through hard krypt almost no problem but lately ive had to use alot of revives just to get max hearts and its kameo fights where i die theres no way to block them and one landing on my character makes them die and the rewards are the same for me so not a fan of kameos rn

[@robgravestock8978]

I like the Kameos, but they trigger at least once every 15 seconds. Constantly in the match. I don’t lose because of Kameos, they are ineffective, just find the flow of the match is ruined by it. I would rather the Kameos are less frequent but deal large power.

[@yasminahmad8961]

Mand I had to reset my mobile so when I reinstalled the game and entered my email/password it kept loading for forever.How should I fix it because Im losing tower battles

[@user1Ahmed]

Please Mand 🙏🙏🙏🙏 Talk about the starter packs Trials came after the packs and many players opened the packs before trials appear we will not be getting mk11 scorpion Pleeeeease talk about this 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@SAUDIxMO7TREFx]

They need to add option before entering the krypt weather you want with kameos or turning off the kameos I really dont like the kameos system i hope they add the option to turn it off or

[@JJ-oo9ps]

I’m not a fan of cameos,the running of the characters and the gameplay has changed like the slow walk after being used I feel it’s changed the feel of the game. Plus the bug I had after using it ,my character got stuck in background but .. yes I agree the krypt now is become more difficult not that I mind, but it is annoying 😂

[@OpenMiker-rp4eo]

Yeah: my character got stuck too; while fighting the new Noob, I think. Of course! 😝