The Competitive History of Samus in Super Smash Bros

[@gonut3252]

It's kinda poetic that Samus gets better as the meta progresses just like she does finding upgrades in her games

[@guspauline7460]

Now YOU'RE the real MVP in the chat.

[@saulcaneloalvarez7524]

Samus sucks as a character and I love all Metroid games

[@devinbannish1469]

I mean, she did A LOT better in the early days of Melee. Which was like 90% of her competitiveness in Smash so...I mean, not really.

[@saulcaneloalvarez7524]

Devin Bannish bro it doesn’t matter, everyone wants to say she is this great character, sure her damage out put is crazy, her ledge trapping and her advantage are crazy but when you have characters with come back mechanics and characters with better movesets she could be playing perfect and still lose.

[@Stefanga44]

Pretty sure the same thing can be applied to another character but idk who

[@doobi6343]

Ok, as a samus player in ultimate there are some very important things you’re missing 1: the biggest change for samus was not the dash attack nerf but the charge shot buff. Now it comboed into things and gave samus disgustingly high damage combos from 0% that rivaled or surpassed 1.0 Olimar. 2: Aerial charging and B reversing seriously opened up samus’ movement, allowing her to kind of charge her shot for free in many cases. Now instead of knocking opponents back and using the time to charge up, she could use her own time being knocked back to charge, and instead press advantage super hard when she netted a neutral win 3: Bombs now had a quicker contact hitbox making their ledge trapping capabilities way stronger and making them even better in neutral In any case, the PERCEPTION of samus at the beginning of ultimate was completely misguided, and people didn’t even know that charge shot comboed into her kit. To be honest, if 1.0 or 2.0 samus had survived until present day she might even be HIGHER on the tier list because of just how badly she shredded through shields and could reliably shield poke everyone in the cast. That’s all

[@SteelTiamat]

doobi Indeed. The clips of the top players overreacting to her were a little cringey. Long time Samus mains had to take their time to fully understand her kit. Meanwhile, most top players scramble to put out their opinions and reactions as quickly as possible, so their early views on Samus are going to be rushed and uninformed.

[@arcr1790]

The same thing happened with GnW when most people discarded the character as a low tier. Then, time and the dedication of the playerbase prove how wrong early tier lists were. I love to see it.

[@Dylan-ig3qz]

Ugh, I miss the days of Super Missle + Full Charge Shot Shield Break. 1.0 Samus still slapped hard

[@horustrismegistus1017]

@@arcr1790 gnw?

[@horustrismegistus1017]

@@Dylan-ig3qz You can still reliably shield break 😏

[@SharKing319]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1024">17:04</a> "In Smash 4, Samus was cool again." Except on For Glory.

[@ImSoClumc]

This series is so interesting amd has alot of info i could watch it all day

[@mcihele]

Yeah, if you follow him, Imagine if proguides did a collab with False Swipe Gaming

[@ryanramjattan8714]

Before people comment it. Yes he knows that he spelt amd. Now dont ridicule and spam and*. Everyone makes mistakes

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

I haven't seen this topic on Samus being covered yet by anyone 🤔 I think we're good everyone 👍 Subscribe for more episodes

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

Also I've mained Samus in Melee for 14 years and the script writer didn't put me in the video. How dare they. - Manager

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

@Sean Moriarty Maybe 🙏

[@XC11301991]

Nintendo might not know what to do with Samus, but the internet knows what to do.

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

😨

[@geekgo4]

Yeah. AM2R and Hyper Metroid are Awesome!

[@dariuscox3576]

I want Metroid Prime 4 to use her Fusion Suit at the start, as It can take place right after Metroid Fusion!

[@grennbalze]

Haha 😉

[@EduardoFlores-bt4fo]

I know, AM2R, fanart, lots of love to the series. It is great.

[@browk2512]

"In the wider world - and in smash - Nintendo rarely seems to know what to do with samus in smash"

[@JeskaiEye]

10/10 script

[@SirCuckoldThe3rd]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1174">19:34</a> BRING BACK CHUNKY SAMUS! Says it all right there

[@ayar2]

not that I really care much for competitive, but its always nice listening someone talking about samus and metroid.

[@jumuwu6262]

I remember when missile - chargeshot broke shields, those were good days

[@EduardoFlores-bt4fo]

You can still break them, that hasn't changed.

[@jumuwu6262]

The amount of shield damage charge shot, along with a few other projectiles was reduced in a patch a several months ago. So charge shot + missile can't break a full shield anymore, unless they keep holding shield after it hits or it was already damaged before they hit. But yeah it used to be even more scary

[@EduardoFlores-bt4fo]

@@jumuwu6262 I know it was nerfed but it can still break a shield. Just try it.

[@sauce0rii]

Eduardo Flores well, any move that hits shield can break it.

[@jumuwu6262]

I mean a full health shield

[@igotthemunchies7292]

Finally showing my main sum appreciation

[@lord6992]

Still best series of this channel

[@OceanLake66]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="106">1:46</a> pro guides you really took the Metroid prime logo straight off their KZbin account.

[@Alextremo-13]

I loved watching Joker play as Samus in Ultimate tournaments. I haven't seen much of him as of late, tho. :( His matches were always so hype.

[@acwitjaapljtmmfbamos]

I started smash with smash 4 on my friends Wii U and my first main was Samus. Flash forward to ultimate, Samus is still a character I play from time to time and this video was very interesting to watch. I’m not that involved with the competitive community and have only attended one tournament so this was very new to me and cool! Thanks for this video!

[@Sly88Frye]

Hm. I feel like the fact she can for once charge her beam in midair probably helps as well

[@Nintendofan184]

I'm so happy you mentioned jouske. When isai was thought of as clearly best in the world, jouske beat him in a 12 character battle and he was dominating Japan who's scene was and still is far ahead of the west

[@horustrismegistus1017]

My friend, who goes by the gamertag "SSBMagy" beat Isai, in Smash 1, and I'm the one who trained him.

[@3of6mylove]

I like how she's now considered at least low-top tier.

[@zorroarkrz1686]

Damn I didn't expect SukeSuke and Ocean man being in the video

[@Zanysleeper]

Samus more like Spamus Laugh at my joke now

[@ultragamer8816]

😂😂😂

[@firestorm3k882]

NOT FUNNY DIDNT LAUGH

[@Zanysleeper]

@@firestorm3k882 laugh

[@firestorm3k882]

@@Zanysleeper hahaha

[@Liliana_the_ghost_cat]

This is not funny

[@BranceCrantly]

When Melee came out, my friends and I were hooked. I love the Metroid series, so Samus was one of the characters I played most. I thought I was better with Mario or Bowser, but every time I picked Samus, you'd hear my friends groan. They knew shit was about to get real. I was like, "What? I feel like I'm better with Mario." "No, dude. No." It was interesting to learn from this video that she ranked so low throughout the series. Never would have guessed. Cool video, man.

[@horustrismegistus1017]

Lol. I had a simi one time. Me and my friends were having a smash tournament at my place. There were like 8 of us. Pizza, soda, and smash. We were playing Brawl, which I HATE, but it's still smash, so.. But my buddy was a nightmare with Marth and Ike, and would always give me a fit, until I used my main: Samus. I'll never forget being the last to pick one time, cause I got up and got a slice, but I came back and dallied on who to pick, and I could just feel the toes in the room curl as I went up and to the left. I picked Samus and literally everyone went "Nooooo. Cmon, dude." Lmao "ah cmon!" "No man! Pick Link or somethin." I felt like the man. I am the man 😏

[@VideoCentral-bh9tf]

I want to see prime 4

[@patrickstar258]

Same

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

SAAAAAAME 😭

[@VideoCentral-bh9tf]

@@ProGuidesSmashBros it's not even for my sake, I just want others to be happy.

[@peluquin98]

Meanwhile the devs that are supposed to make metroid prime 4 have a blank file only with a name

[@horustrismegistus1017]

Worst company ever

[@Cloudydays0526]

As a Samus main who competes in smash 64 competitive and smash ultimate competitive. I’ve pushed Samus and have videos for it. Samus can be the ultimate machine of mix ups at times. Excited to see new Samus main push samus offline. I can certainly translate online and offline.

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

Quik ultimate samus open my eyes at how Samus can actually be super creative character and a good tournament character at the same time.

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

His charge shot conversions are actually insane and just like the video said, the combo trees for it are absolutely mind boggling

[@horustrismegistus1017]

@@ProGuidesSmashBros Bomb draws shield Down throw F air Repeat til 43 Down throw U air U air B up til 70s Bomb backwards off ledge, they always chase at every skill level F air recover at ground level to break the landing artwork Down throw Harass with more You can knock any enemy of any weight into a nearly unbroken series of attacks, and she almost cannot be air dodged. Her air game is simply unmatched. You can do this all day to Bayonetta, Cloud, Shulk, Lucina, Chrom, or any other Gen z favorite. They scream. Their eyes melt. Especially if they're competitive. 23 years exp.

[@stuff1487]

Sheik and Marth. Unless we are doing 64 characters in general before Melee, then do Luigi.

[@Gelwain]

Thanks for all the research on Samus!

[@krbay1019]

Leffen vs Plup evo was 2015 not 2014.

[@ashemabahumat4173]

I wish they'd give Samus her n-air back. If anything, it'd give Damus a unique move lol

[@ayar2]

her current n air is already unique (as it hits front and back in succession) her past n air was too similar to mario and jigglypuff.

[@ashemabahumat4173]

@@ayar2 I'm willing to take another sexkick over that she currently has. Besides, if they change Samus' back it Damus will be the only one with the move. Rn it's just a shared move, but would be truly unique if changed on one of them

[@Snowballsage]

Characters: the legend of Zelda, animal crossing

[@Agerzzs]

It's because when you click on it, you can see characters from that series

[@aepux]

@Snowballs lol i see you commenting in like every video i watch lmao. such a coincidence

[@sukmykrok3388]

When you guys do the competitive history of Ganondorf y'all better include Nairo!

[@AverageHandle_]

They can mention him saying he was good at ganon but not anything further

[@agentboi4794]

Some say Prime 4 is still in development to this day

[@devinbannish1469]

It better be.

[@shanetobin3609]

I hope we can see a marth one of these in the future. I think that'd be pretty cool

[@davidmarshall3085]

Can we have DK? I'm going to main him on the Japanese version of smash bros 64.

[@kimaster5893]

He was steadily becoming good till ultimate ruined him. His villain has an easy winning match up with him because he can easily wall him out

[@gomezfreshh9897]

You forgot to mention that after ESAM picked Samus as a secondary on sm4sh, he defeated Ally at the Civil War Tournament & he had the epic popoff

[@EduardoFlores-bt4fo]

He did but, his name is Shadow banned.

[@despeinado340]

I main her since Brawl, but I honestly doubt she'll ever break the top tier. She has really good match up spread, but Wolf, Palutena, Olimar and Pikachu really make her struggle. She's not consistent enough against them for her to be top tier

[@CrossoverFan4life]

Pikachu is manageable

[@kimaster5893]

Competitive history of Luigi to continue the 64 fighters

[@boyoy0283]

Can you competitive history of min min?

[@ayar2]

cant tell if its sarcasm or not.

[@boyoy0283]

@@ayar2 Its sarcastic.

[@ayar2]

@@boyoy0283 glad to hear it.

[@justicetaylor2695]

I'm settled on Ultimate Samus. And I'm proud of my younger bro and cousin playing her too. They've have close Samus ditto matches between one another and one bro even beat MY Samus in a Samus ditto. Some of my discord peers hate playing Samus and sound like they thought Samus was already too OP for buffs. They might've been in that mindset if they met me at launch. My Ultimate Samus easily tore through nearly every player I met in quick play at Launch, probably thanks to the similarities in handling fresh off playing Smash4 Samus daily. What I like most though is online team games where my Samus is sometimes good enough to take back 1 vs 2 loosing fights. Like, with both approaching enemies taking a back air and at least one of them dying from it.

[@kremeykrizp9458]

Can u do competive history of marth plz

[@evanshanley8110]

I think they're only doing 64 characters for right now.

[@devinbannish1469]

64: N/A Melee: Top tier throughout the entire game''s history Brawl: High Tier 4: High tier, not as good as brawl though. Ultimate: Arguably high, at least mid. But why would you ever use Marth instead of Lucina? You don't, so no one plays Marth.

[@riften1229]

Peter Griffon be like 🍑🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@BONKfrys]

Let’s get this on top everybody

[@badge564]

^

[@thesadfather1239]

BONK! No

[@noyd4172]

Here from the future to say that at Let's Make Big Moves 2022 (a major), 4 out of the top 16 were Samus players.

[@SwordgunnerM92]

Ultimate easily is my favorite incarnation of Samus next, even more so than PM Samus. She is filled with so many very good options

[@frankjoz2803]

Samus main here crying tears of joy for this vid. I want to believe that my comments on this channel made it possible.

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

We gotchu

[@jalucaru]

Quik playing samus since then holy

[@nfrg3928]

Man I LOVE samus . She is so cool and most importantly SHE DOES NOT SCREAM!!

[@justicetaylor2695]

NfG When launched or ko'd off the top? It's like she doesn't show pain or fear when behind her trusty armor. I'm certainly not scared myself when I'm at 120% damage. I'll fearlessly clutch out a last minute 3 stock if I have to.

[@nfrg3928]

@@justicetaylor2695 yeah man. It is true as well. I make incredible comebacks sometimes. It only needs good reads

[@horustrismegistus1017]

@@justicetaylor2695 Her recovery makes people cuss

[@VictorAlvarez-kn6lv]

I tink he diddn't talk enought about the spacer in melee. But pretty good vid

[@sethstories64]

I'm not the first person to say this but yeah: Pros were flat-out wrong about Samus when Ultimate released, and some of that misinformation is still in this video. Like, her dash attack in Ultimate doesn't combo as well but it kills a lot earlier. She has more KO options overall, not less. And the buff to charge shot (charged and uncharged) were just completely overlooked, for some reason. Samus in Ultimate was always a good character. People just took almost two years to stop listening to people who formed their opinions way too quickly. Not trying to come of as condescending or anything. I just noticed this stuff right away because I started maining Samus right before Ultimate came out so the positive transition was really obvious to me.

[@grennbalze]

Ive been super happy with her overall. I picked her up in Melee and mained her since(Brawl was a dark time. So slow and was so hard to find my groove with her). I do miss being able to up air into up special though

[@SilverSaber012]

@@grennbalze umm you can still do it tho, lol. Even better now in ultimate u can chain down throw into 2 or 3 upairs or finish it with up b for approx 35% to 45%, also you can bait a defensive option and slap a chargeshot if your aim is correct.

[@JuanCMelo]

I enjoy a lot these story videos, keep it up!

[@francoisturcotte3982]

I'm not a Samus main but I got a pocket one ans i've played her in all smash game. Imo ultimate is her best incarnation with melee. She's most likely high tier and online she's top tier lol.

[@julezzz_08]

Smash 64: Bad Melee: Good Brawl: Underrated, but still average Smash 4: Underrated, decent Ultimate: Great

[@shaplaflower]

Can u make a best of every move like mock rock. I’d love to see ur opinions. Plz do this

[@NoRegs30]

I await the new Metroid games in stasis like the rest of the fanbase Someday Samus will rise to the heights she deserves, and on that day, we shall awaken

[@Stared-vf9eh]

i wanna see the competitive history of ness

[@PennyFizz]

Let me sum it up: awful until Bandai Namco joined production and decided that spamming is good game design

[@horustrismegistus1017]

@@PennyFizz Peekay fiyaa! Peekay fiyaa! Peekay fiyaa! 🙄

[@2LoopMk]

I like this series plz do more

[@punzilla4421]

Yes. My main and my favorite voice on the channel. Bonk

[@BONKfrys]

Y-you.. you m-main me?😳

[@punzilla4421]

@@BONKfrys No. But i could if ya want

[@meme.r1386]

Oi Josuke that was a sick combo - Okuyasu

[@Geneolgia]

I see YB exclusively uses Dark Suit recolor and Dark Samus, so he too is a big Metroid Prime Echoes fan.

[@the_wake_]

"The year is 20SS. Everyone plays Samus at TAS levels of perfection. Because of this, the winner of a match depends solely on port priority. The RPS metagame has evolved to ridiculous levels due to it being the only remaining factor to decide matches." Jokes aside, Samus is now in A+ tier on the first official-ish tier list, one spot above her unsuited self. She finally did it! (And 1 spot below Wario. Gluto out there walling quiK even on the tierlists.)

[@FontainOfTears]

Everyone is hating on proguides but you know what?? This channel is actually good. It teaches people on how to play defensive it has good tierlists and more

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

I really appreciate it! It's important to note that every department has different staff and specialists within the games. As the manager of this channel, I have also been a 13+ year ranked competitor in Smash, as our lead narrator actively is as well. I appreciate the kind words! Our writers are exceptional and I continue to learn from it too :)

[@FontainOfTears]

@@ProGuidesSmashBros thanks.

[@BT-vs5vg]

UNFORTUNATELY

[@ezequielnavon9592]

Josuke just use crazy diamond to fix samus problems in smash 64

[@MachuPichucp11]

QuiK has me in awe of samus in ultimate, he´s nuts!

[@legendredux1291]

so if you dont travel to US you dont get ranked ? so for smash only USA matters?

[@nintendope8837]

Wait so we didn't get Ridley in smash we got ridley Scott dam it

[@doublexproductions]

Project m Samus in ice mode is my favorite pm character.

[@erickmaverick3128]

To me, it's sad that Metroid didn't get as much props and sales as Mario, Zelda, and the rest. Hope Prime 4 us worth the wait and exceeds our expectations.

[@devinbannish1469]

I just hope it comes out in my life span. can't wait for a direct 50 years in the future for it to finally get mentioned again.

[@joey5745]

As much as I have adjusted to Samus’s new Nair, I’ll always like the Melee/Brawl/PM sex kick more,

[@horustrismegistus1017]

It was sudden af and in your face

[@danytalksmusic]

Amazing intro, guys!

[@nintendope8837]

Basestats: samus Pokémon confirmed?

[@giblemeister5714]

escape night cronge Growth rates where its at Samus is a blue haired swordsman confirmed

[@vjoe5389]

64: is kinda meh, only really good against Jigglypuff and Japan Melee: was really good but is now currently a mid tier Brawl: why are you not using the far superior Zero Suit? 4: started off as complete trash but eventually became a good mid tier and excellent secondary Ultimate: was complete trash but got buffed and is good again. Currently she is on her way to becoming a high tier, maybe even one day a top tier if she gets more buffs

[@devinbannish1469]

She was never a "good mid tier" she's at low tier, maybe, maybe one of the better low tier characters, but by no means actually good. And it ultimate she's no high tier, Europe is whack.

[@MrNioMoon]

Samus is top tier in Ultimate

[@Chan0art]

If we get dlc skins for characters I want a chunky suit skin

[@hyperjank5129]

Chargu Shoto

[@Waauugh]

I'd love to see her Fusion resign make a debut in this game. Her height is the same, so a hitbox shouldn't be an issue.

[@thebananasparty]

Rip samus

[@theswooper1151]

I guess I just haven’t been playing this game enough LOL No knowledge it would appear on anything I’ve done at recent major events. Das coo ; ~ ;

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

I know you :3 But we also need to fit in 5-6 games and 20+ years of history into roughly 20 minutes :p

[@theswooper1151]

ProGuides Super Smash Bros Ultimate Tips but you mentioned Morse and violence 😭 I was at the same majors as those guys 🥺. It’s chill tho I’m not actually upset or anything lool, it’s just hard getting recognition but I do enjoy your videos (:

[@LordFendleberry2]

You keep saying "Nintendo" doesn't know what to do with Samus, or that "Nintendo" patched the game. Nintendo published the game and licensed the characters, but did not develop the game. Smash Bros Ultimate was developed jointly by Sora Ltd and Bandai/Namco. You could at least say "Sakurai," the name of the game's director. "Nintendo" just sounds uninformed. It bugs me.

[@frankjoz2803]

I will make it to the top 100 in Mexico in 2021 with Samus.

[@Magaflamewolf]

And now the one and only wadi plays her

[@ryancooey5540]

Samus model looks good on n64 too bad she never got her own game on the console

[@justicetaylor2695]

ryan cooey I heard of a proto type using the Golden Eye engine, but it seemed like a good ideal to wait for tech like the GameCube to really shine.

[@Nadav_Vardiel]

it's now official, Samus is top tier and even passed ZSS😁

[@trollpage7]

Conpetitve history of *ness*

[@MOONSTAR-dy2nv]

Ay Josuke is part of my favorite Jojo part!

[@superfrubblez6123]

Let's see a video on a Melee character! I suggest marth!

[@JuanCarlos-vq1cj]

Please do Bowser! Love these videos.

[@jakewalton9813]

*0 dislikes* Now that’s what we like to see

[@ProGuidesSmashBros]

🙏

[@Andy251153]

I think Metroid is one of the best franchisees in existence with A LOT of untapped potential

[@The_Gabe]

Can you do Ness or Kirby

[@luxii527]

Why do you guys never talk about pm

[@Thelowestofthelowtiers]

Ken from False Swipe Gaming? Is that you?

[@xavierdennis2161]

Oh yes keep this up!

[@beegredyoshi2847]

can you do tyoshi next :)

[@ultragamer8816]

I like the JOJO reference

[@Sparky_5hark]

Now we know why Josuke plays a Nintendo 64 in DIU....

[@gibbous3931]

Dark Samus is my one of my pockets

[@penorple]

I’m waiting for sonic now

[@WhydoAcid]

Is Luigi next

[@asg8086]

I really think Samus is High Tier

[@woozy1885]

HE DID IT! HE DID MY SUGGESTION :D