The Computer Chronicles - Losing Memory (1995)

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[@cloviscareca]

this is a great show. I watch it every week to keep me updated!

[@leeizme]

same! I just installed 2MB of ram into my computer and it's so snappy now!

[@ian_b]

@@leeizme Wow, with that much ram you can run a "GUI" on your system like "Windows"!

[@pinrod1]

i just upgraded from audio tape to floppy disk! Whoa! the speed!

[@cloviscareca]

@@pinrod1 I'm considering to do this too, however floppy drivers are too expensive for me by now. Maybe next year I do upgrade

[@pinrod1]

@@cloviscareca I heard 4 color monitor for better graphic is available for cheap money

[@Bruno-Guitarist]

Love how he nods every time he says "This edition of the Computer chronicles" :-) Love the show. This is my childhood.

[@raven4k998]

does your pc have memory problems? since I have 64 gigs of ram I have never ran out of ram ever

[@CommodoreFan64]

@@raven4k998 I have 8GB on my work PC, and laptop, I also have 16GB on my main gaming machine, and I can't recall having ran out of memory since fully switching to Manjaro Linux W/ Budgie DE last year.

[@raven4k998]

@@CommodoreFan64 so so what neither have I with my 64 gigs of ram mind you I can use the extra ram for this little thing call ramdisk you wouldn't understand it's to complicated for you but it means that I can use all 64 gb of ram if I want to

[@CommodoreFan64]

@@raven4k998 alright Mr. arrogant, but I'm afraid you are very wrong about me, I'm currently as I type this looking at a quad monitor setup on Manjaro Linux, and have been using Linux to some degree since RedHat 386 came on a commercial CD. In fact, I've been doing computer repair since the late 80's. So I more than know what a RAM disk is pal, I just choose not to spend more than I need for my setups which all run Manjaro Linux w/Budgie DE.

[@yellowblanka6058]

@@raven4k998 Unless you're working with large images/scientific data etc. (I doubt it), a huge amount of RAM/RAMdisk are unnecessary, especially considering the fact that with even a cheap SSD, Windows will boot in less than 30 seconds and most apps will load in seconds off an SSD. I've been using/building computers for 30 years and there's a point of diminishing returns for average use cases.

[@cyberbug9699]

Watch this while going to sleep. You'll wake up surprised how far technology grew over night.

[@Kyntteri]

That was pretty much reality in the 90's. Carry home a new PC and by the time you got it setup, it was obsolete. It was a crazy decade what comes to tech leaps in short time.

[@cyberbug9699]

@@Kyntteri exciting time to be alive except maybe the covid thing

[@brianc5537]

This show was amazing. I watch these videos everyday now. Brings back so many memories from my childhood. ❤️

[@blackneos940]

:)

[@Nine-Signs]

It was about this time I was doing every school kid job I could find to save enough for a CD rom & soundcard. Being from a poor family I had been given a 386 for Xmas 1993. Little did I know that my PC used MFM not IDE and so it could not be fitted. I managed to get a hold of a 486 DX 33 which... erm... "fell off the back of a lorry"... Then came Quake. And everything changed as it ran like dogmeat on my pc and I began learning everything I could about computers so I could figure out how to upgrade. I also found a latent interest in musics due to the haunting carnal sounds by some guy called Trent Reznor, whom aged 14 in the UK with no interest in any music at all until then, I had never heard of. Ever since then I've been a life long fan of Nine Inch Nails. Today I write music, thank you Trent, and I continue to build computers of all types for the love of it for any who come to me with a request and a budget. Growing up poor, best bang for buck was built in to me from birth and I try to help any poor family I can with such things.

[@raven4k998]

and now days we do not have anything to do this sort of thing now why cause windows linux and mac os's do not have memory limits like dos had

[@drygnfyre]

That RAM Doubler software for the Mac was actually one of the few "memory extender" applications that actually worked. Nowadays modern operating systems, like macOS 10, will automatically allocate unused memory. But back then, you had to do it manually or use applications like RAM Doubler.

[@RonJohn63]

"Real" operating systems have always automatically "ejected" unused memory to a swap or page file since the 1970s (some since the 1960s).

[@looneyburgmusic]

RAM Doubler might have worked, but like everything else from/for CrApple™ the marketing for the program, and how it worked, was mostly deceptive - RD didn't "double" available memory, it simply reclaimed unused RAM, compressed other RAM, and used virtual memory. A Mac with (x) amount of RAM install still had (x) amount of RAM, regardless what the program did.

[@CalifornianSupremacy]

@@looneyburgmusicas if the windows DOS apps weren’t equally deceptive. Show me on the doll where Steve Jobs hurt you

[@looneyburgmusic]

@@CalifornianSupremacythat's called a "What-About-ism", which is never a valid argument in any discussion. Also, as I'm not a member of the Cult of Steve it's impossible for that man to have ever bothered me. The guy was not some visionary genius, he was a salesman, perhaps the greatest salesman who ever lived, but still, just a salesman.

[@OpenGL4ever]

Nowadays modern operating systems use virtual memory, paging and the MMU features of the hardware. That's a completely different thing.

[@nameischarles]

This was my childhood running Memmaker, editing autoexec and config files on a bootdisk before playing games.

[@raven4k998]

the bs of using all of your ram now days it's not an issue windows uses all your ram no bs like dos had

[@jamesjiao]

Good old days eh!

[@Romenet310]

I loved it!

[@KozenaDrzka]

10:54 Where are all those "download more RAM" jokes now hehe

[@JR-lg8sq]

I remember being amazed in 1993 when a office I worked in had 16mb ram, I had never seen it before.

[@blackneos940]

I was born in 1991, so when I had learned about RAM, I think it was Computers having at least 2 GB, and that was pretty high-end, I think. But back then, I guess with 16 MB of RAM, you really weren't playing Minecraft, The Sims Games, COD, etc.. It was early hits like DOOM, Commander Keene (did I spell that right?), and others with similar resource usage. :) And of course, people from my generation look down on a "measly" 16 MB of RAM, and I remind them.... In 30-40 years, people will be laughing at OUR 32 GB RAM PCs, Laptops or otherwise. :D

[@SomeDudeInBaltimore]

@@blackneos940 Damn I was 9 and using my Dad's IBM PC-XT to play Commander Keen when you were born. Yeah I'd say you missed a huge chunk of the technological advancement of computers. It was a huge leap. At the start of 1990, we were working with a couple megabytes and CPUs that ran in the tens of MEGAhertz. At the end of the decade, we had CPUs running at multiple Ghz and a gig of RAM. Since the early 2000s though, computer speed and memory didn't really advance by THAT much, what has happened is they got smaller and less power-hungry, so everything can be ran on batteries now. Your smartphone has the equivalent performance or slightly more than an early 2000s-era high end gaming PC.

[@blackneos940]

@@SomeDudeInBaltimore Wow... :) Well, you're not that much older than me. :) I imagine we'd both be talking about this to kids in the 2040s! :) Maybe Ghz and GB will one day be seen as small, as far as non-Datacenter Computing goes..... But that's cool what you said about an Android (and even an iPhone) having that much power. :) I have a ASUS, and it's great, but... Well, shovelware is not dead, and is put on Smartphones as bloatware.... The Programs themselves are nice, but if I really needed NFL on my Phone, which already has a somewhat small amount of space on it, I could easily go to Google Play, and download the Program and install it myself. Man..... Oh, did you know Commander Keen is apparently in the same universe as Doom? :O

[@bigtimelsu]

I have 64gigs.. not running out of memory any time soon. Lol Love these videos! It takes me back to my BBS days.

[@blackandredsword2698]

these are awesome, so glad i found them. i really miss these old computer shows

[@raven4k998]

4 kilobytes and you probably have had a pc with 4 gigabytes in your history something to think about how the times have changed the amount of ram keeps going up over time

[@robertgijsen]

Wow, the times you actually bought a physical game instead of a download link. Sweet memories 💾

[@raven4k998]

yeah this was before the age of steam gog origin epic games and so on and so forth

[@Wabe28]

Back in 1995 I understood what they were talking about. Meanwhile after 20 years as a mouse pusher, I have no idea what they are talking about.

[@wickeddr]

Wabe28 then u need a new job

[@Wabe28]

ralph anderson True :-)

[@megabojan1993]

+Wabe28 You forgotten the knowledge that you had 20 years ago? :)

[@tdrewman]

+MegaBojan1993 there is a lot of stuff I have forgotten, things that are not longer needed. The struggle we had as kids to get a program to work. Most of the time now, it just works, unless you have something missing or not compatible, which most things are.

[@SkuldChan42]

Yeah products like Ram Doubler were a total scam :(.

[@Ficehdulah]

Made sense to me, what’s wrong with it?

[@SkuldChan42]

@@Ficehdulah they didn't actually do anything on your PC or Mac - at most all they did was adjust the virtual memory settings.

[@angusmeigh5141]

Now a decent computer comes with around 16 gigabytes of RAM. And 512 gigabytes of hard drive space.

[@dbloyd2]

Scam Doubler.

[@Wiliraughshai]

@@angusmeigh5141 512 gigabytes? We had that like 15 years ago, we're in terabytes now

[@qbertguy]

See that? Back then we didn't download more RAM, we copied it from a floppy disk

[@raven4k998]

vvuuaaa lllaaaa and you've gained over 100k of ram lol

[@angusmeigh5141]

You cannot download RAM or add it from a floppy disk. To get more RAM in a computer you have to add RAM chips!

[@qbertguy]

@@angusmeigh5141 three-year-old whoosh

[@billn.1318]

90s computer technicians really had it tough working with those computers. It was a fantastic time in computing. Terrible time to a tech back in those days. Days before cloud computing. If you had an issue, you cant really guide the user to troubleshoot... you had to be there. These days, deploying windows, replacing/upgrading hard drives and memory are the only items a tech can physically work on in a business enviroment. it is often sent to manufactures for repairs if under warranty. IT support now these days are troubleshooting MS office, Line of business apps and email issues lol

[@raven4k998]

yeah because they had memory limits so it wasn't as simple as just slapping more ram into a computer

[@esplonky]

1995 was closer to the creation of almost all of the technologies shown around 4:10 than it is to today

[@raven4k998]

are you loosing memory?

[@scottschoppert9149]

I learned on a x286 machine and learned how to navigate DOS through dos for dummies. As a young kid it was super fun, the computer had golf, kings quest iv and that was about it haha. My dad bought it from a friend of his from work.

[@MuseHijinks]

Holy shit I completely forgot that we used to have to manually manage RAM

[@8BitNaptime]

And it was a nightmare. I went from the Amiga that basically took care of most of the memory details, to the PC in about 1995 and I was a bit shocked by it all. HMA driver? A20 handler? EMM vs EMS? But that was only DOS IIRC, Win 95 was better.

[@jordancobb509]

Good lord, they act like you're going to be flashing your bios on a weekly basis.

[@SpiDey1500]

I am. 😀

[@CloneShockTrooper]

Love watching this to time travel 🧭 back in time

[@KenMurray1953]

Great to some some of this stuff from the 'old' days

[@diegosilang4823]

Today's average desktop RAM (4 up to 16 GB) are larger than the average hard disk size (2 GB) in 1995.

[@handlealreadytaken]

Memory management today is configuring the LED pattern in an application that takes 100MB of RAM.

[@yellowblanka6058]

It's disgusting how bloated modern apps have gotten with these huge APIs/frameworks etc. - I miss the days when developers respected memory use, and it's not like RAM is dirt-cheap at the moment.

[@KeinNiemand]

@@yellowblanka6058 ram is cheap compared to what it cost back then also those API/Frameworks make development a lot easier by allowing programmers to not focus on all the low level stuff

[@janthegreat]

Amazed at how we designed UI during those times.

[@eddiespaghetti54321]

0:16 EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEE EEEEEEE EEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEE EEEEEEE EEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@blackneos940]

Well done. :) No, really. :)

[@FJ-Channel]

1 MB of RAM, 4 MB of RAM ... What a Nightmare .... my first PC have 128MB of RAM with Pentium 2 233MHz Processor run on windows 95 @ 2003. I remember playing PSX emulator run such a slow motion LoL... Playing Racing Game V8 Challenge also slow motion. playing The Sims 1 without expansion pack can run smooth. Then upgrade to P2 450MHz with windows 98 few months later. Then jump to Pentium 4 Celeron 1.4 GHz 1GB RAM with windows XP @ 2005 and ATi 9250 then upgrade with 7300GT then upgrade to Core2Duo E4600 with 2GB RAM and HD 2600XT @ 2007 until 2014 upgrade to HD 6670 with 3GB RAM. Then big upgrade to Ryzen and GTX 1060 6GB @ 2018 then upgrade RAM and VGA @ 2020 ... a lot of memories ......

[@danwat1234]

16:25 OMG! The lady is buying 'Under a Killing Moon'! Nerdgasm . KidPix! The kids precursor to Paint. Oh, and the style of clock next to the computer at 16:58 I have coincidentally.

[@DataWaveTaGo]

At 4:12 he states 'The first DRAM or dynamic memory...' The board clearly states it is *_Static Memory_*

[@danwat1234]

Nice catch

[@drummerlad7866]

dang, I just hope I would live in that era and I could finally boast around in the show about today's RTX Cards

[@raven4k998]

ray tracing in ms dos NERD!!!!!!!! if I could do it I'd be on there and be like yeah my video card has ray tracing and 8gb of video ram system ram is 128gigs I have 16 cpu cores 32 threads over 20 tb of hard disk space on my system so on and so forth

[@joaogoncalves1149]

Eight memory slots! Those were the days...

[@HikikomoriDev]

...640k and DOS in the mid 90s. That's kinda the actual problem lol

[@gallitron7803]

I was forever messing with the autoexec and config.sys files back on 3.1 and 95/98

[@SimmeringPotpourri]

Oh, no!! MemMaker. I'm having a flashback. Finally those mushrooms are kicking in again. I totally forgot what a pain in the ass memory management on the PC was.

[@mad3m6n]

Minute 24, after the guy did a dirty drivers hack to gain 100k of memory, he proudly lunches the game that he couldn't previously run , and few seconds later the game gets killed from the kernel due to insufficient memory. Lmao 

[@cjhawk67]

The last guys "cloaking software" just sounds like it adds LH in front of the drivers in the autoexec.bat to load them into high memory...

[@sundhaug92]

Sounds more like memory-mapping to me

[@looneyburgmusic]

@SteelRodent It wasn't a hacked driver, it was more of a driver stub, which pointed to where the driver actually resided in the memory map.

[@yellowblanka6058]

I definitely don't miss the days of messing with autoexec.bat and config.sys.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

Watching this using my 64GB desktop.

[@dbloyd2]

64 GB is so 2019. Just kidding, that is pretty sweet even in the year 2020.

[@FlyboyHelosim]

Plot twist: 64Gb of storage space. 😵

[@alfredooliva5175]

@@dbloyd2 "pretty" sweet? wtf 64gb in 2030 will still be OVERKILLL

[@dbloyd2]

@@alfredooliva5175 I use it to create virtual servers that simulate an environment at work. Fail over system, cluster, web tier, application tier, database tier. I can use 128 GB myself. For things like Final Cut Pro or photo editing, I am ok with 8 GB.

[@OpenGL4ever]

Nowadays, RAM requirements for games depend on the RAM available on consoles. Demanding more RAM would mean giving up the console market and no game manufacturer can afford that. Therefore, these 64 GB will be sufficient for games for a very long time. The CPU and GPU will probably be too slow for new games beforehand.

[@daehawk9585]

I think I tried Qemm but I did better by editing my own configs. By loading stuff high and changing stacks I think I was getting around 618 free. Worked great for gaming.

[@ibazulic]

I lover Qemm. It always provided approximately 620 kB of conventional memory on my 386 dx with 4 MB of RAM.

[@Legal-104]

God I wish we could have real journalism like this in the modern day

[@MarkHyde]

Pre-Windows 95 era computing with Dos/Windows mix. Lot's of memory issues in those days...I'm sometime having memory issues (system slow downs) with my 8 Gigabytes of RAM LOL.

[@AxiomofDiscord]

Mark Hyde I got 16 and never have a problem unless I leave my system on for at least a month without a reboot.

[@plateshutoverlock]

Wow, I had a 286 with 1 meg of ram at that point in time

[@tmjcbs]

Aahh..the days of finetuning autoexec.bat....

[@u0aol1]

HOLY SHIT!!! A WHOLE MEGABYTE?!?!?

[@runforit420]

The days of having to use a boot disk to have enough conventional memory to load an MS-DOS CD-ROM game - wow. I remember my friend had an IBM PS/1 and he had to do that - all I had were Macs. I thought it was incredibly ridiculous to have to do that as a Mac user.

[@looneyburgmusic]

Well, Mac's really didn't have games so...

[@runforit420]

@@looneyburgmusic I don't think you really understood the point. The point was having to exit Windows to play a MS-DOS game. Not only exit Windows, but have to reboot using a minimal MS-DOS floppy disk with only the essential drivers.

[@looneyburgmusic]

​@@runforit420 Yes. And this is what has always made x86 DOS/Windows based computers stomp all over Mac's - the computer does what the owner wants it to do, instead of being locked up and limited by what CrApple™ says you want to do. I recently just set up a dual-boot Windows 10/DOS 7.0 machine for my daughter, for when she wants to play older DOS games that she recently discovered. It's a simple matter of pressing "1" or "2" when the computer boots up and off she goes. Meanwhile, is it true what I heard, that the latest releases of OSX will no longer allow users to run any 16/32 bit software at all, without resorting to booting into a hacked Windows install, or using emulation software?

[@looneyburgmusic]

@@runforit420 By the way, props for actually replying, I didn't notice how long ago your comment was from... :-)

[@runforit420]

@@looneyburgmusic They still pop up in notifications regardless of age. :) That's true - I'm surprised that my friend didn't know about boot menus with PC-DOS. That's a good workaround compared to having to use a boot disk. I remember that the game was the DOS version of Wing Commander, and it was pretty slow loading videos with a 2x CD-ROM player. It might even have been 1x speed. It was one of those non-proprietary IBM PS/1s (separate monitor and CPU). It's true - as of Catalina (10.15), all 32-bit MacOS X software has been deprecated. Apparently it's for stability purposes, but I smell B.S.

[@Fuzy2K]

4:19 -- Heh, an Intel ProShare camera! I have one of those somewhere. :P

[@robvandenn.5646]

It’s basically one big commercial for third party tools

[@E_y_a_l]

It's not a commercial if they show a number of different companies, which they did.

[@robvandenn.5646]

@@E_y_a_l Hence the word "basically"

[@E_y_a_l]

@@robvandenn.5646 Basically what? when rivaling companies gets a reasonably even and unpaid opportunity to demonstrate their product, it's a demonstration, not a commercial, period, the show made a good service to the viewers by familiarizing them with the options available on the market.

[@robvandenn.5646]

@@E_y_a_l I've been working in television and media long enough to see the difference between a paid advertorial (which this imho is) and journalism. Not a single critical question about any product is asked by the host during the entire video. Ofcourse it's entertaining, but this was mostly a platform for small software developers (Diagsoft? Connectix? Mad Mouse Media?) to buy themselves the opportunity to explain what their software was doing. And the big players (QEMM95, Memmaker, to name a few) weren't even there. So hardly objective. But just my opinon. I wouldn't have used the show as my only resource back in 95 just because I question their objectivity... My 2 cents

[@E_y_a_l]

​@@robvandenn.5646 With about 2 minutes per segment, how much critical questions do you want to be asked? like I've said this is a demonstration of a product, and a friendly one, nobody is pretending it to be anything else including the host, Memmaker was introduced at 2:43 and as for big players, if you'll watch other episodes you'll see that IBM, Microsoft, Apple etc...appeared on the show constantly, often one after the other. The question regarding if this is a commercial or not comes down to the exchange of goods in favor of the spot, and without any proven basis to your claim that they payed for their participation on the show, you're just making cynical assumptions. I agree that this particular episode looked like a commercial, with the emphasis of looked like, especially when each representative bashing the product of the one that appeared before him, but if you'll watch the other episodes you'll see that often this show was usually very informative and did provide a good service to computer enthusiasts in the time where that kind of information was not that easily available like today. I remember from that time "COMPUTER SHOWS" from Microsoft that were real commercials dressed up like TV tech shows, you wouldn't see IBM demonstrating their products there at the time, so lets put things in the right proportions.

[@Altalus]

Looking at it now, where most PCs have 16+ GB of Ram, is so surreal.

[@raven4k998]

well back then those old antiques could not handle this much memory nore was that amount available back then

[@Altalus]

@@raven4k998 Of course, but the difference in numbers is fun to look at :) I do remember that my old 20286 had 20 megs... of hard drive space :P

[@raven4k998]

@@Altalus yeah my first computer had 512 megs of hard disk space 8 megs ram and yes you guessed it the first Pentium Compaq put into a computer they sold the good old Pentium 60 MHz CPU I remember her well just like I remember how to use word works office excel and power point even though employers think I have no clue how to use them cause no education on file never took a class or a course just the windows 95 training software was my only teaching aid for that which is why then they get mad when they realize I do know those software title better then the normal guys they hire for those skills

[@raven4k998]

@@Altalus yeah I know you love your old 286 but for me it will always be the Pentium 60 cause that was my first computer to learn on

[@sbkpilot1]

well .. that is a big book for customers to know how to manage thier memory

[@wojstube9359]

Now we have memory problem back... VRAM memory problem. 8GB VRAM is not enough for today games.

[@OpenGL4ever]

3:10 I disagree. I had 6 entries, all four DOS modes where required for games. 1. DOS with EMS 2. DOS with XMS 3. DOS with CD-ROM and EMS 4. DOS with CD-ROM and XMS 5. Windows without CD-ROM 6. Windows with CD-ROM The reason: There were floppy games that required so much RAM, that they didn't run with a CD-ROM driver and MSCDEX loaded. Then there were games, that didn't run without EMS memory. And then there were games, that requested that no EMM386 driver was loaded. These were typically the DOS Extender games. For the two Windows entries i usually used the one with CD-ROM drivers loaded. But if i had work to do, like painting something, running Windows without unnessary drivers was the better option, that way i had more RAM for my application and data.

[@leewalton7403]

where can i buy those 1mb sticks of memory? do they come in DDR4 ?

[@Astinsan]

How much power would you need to run that zif davis test facility?

[@Austin_Boath]

an interesting video

[@alfredooliva5175]

"640 kb is all you need"

[@LemSportsinterviews]

14:12 check out the software in the background. system shock?!

[@HuntersMoon78]

I tried putting some SIMM'S in my computer but it wouldn't go in the DDR4 RAM slot.

[@yaosio]

Wow, 4 megabytes of memory!

[@harshbarj]

That's what my first PC had. A 12Mhz 286. Nothing really used that extra ram, so I setup a 3mb ramdisk as the computer did not have a hard disk. I'd leave the computer on for days at a time. I may have used that additional ram if I had had a decent display, but I had a MDA card and an amber monocrome display. It was enough to program in basic and play a few simple games.

[@dbloyd2]

Lol, I remember when I had 8 MB of memory, someone told me "You pig."

[@OpenGL4ever]

@@harshbarj The money would have been better invested in an EGA or VGA card, if available.

[@MrGencyExit64]

That guy at 18 minutes has had way too much coffee.

[@HomeAwesomation]

Does anyone know where to download Game Doctor present day?

[@dustinhaus1165]

Soon CPU's will have TB's of NVRAM/cache

[@danstar455]

I don't recall Apple computers having this problem nor Atari and Amiga. Apple had Plug/Play Nubus in 1987.

[@sbkpilot1]

They already have memmaker built into the OS 😄

[@johntucker23]

In school at around this time to "hack" the windows 3.11 systems that we had we just opened word 40-50 times at once, that drained all the memory and caused the security programs to shut down :) wonder if that still works in school lol.

[@ArcadeGames]

I did something similar back in high school. I would open up Word and then find and open the executable of the security program in txt format, erase the data, then save it.

[@ezydenias8505]

I have 16gb of ram and 8gb of vram and I ran out of it from time to time.

[@ramonchix]

32GB DDR4 2666mhz

[@sergheiadrian]

Not all of them. During the era of 286 and 386 they were actually pretty good.

[@ChrisStringer]

I'll just leave this right here.......QEMM

[@danwat1234]

Flask memory PCMCIA cards! Nowdays SSDs reign supreme. Had no idea you could get an SSD back then. These memory managers, I guess DOS/4G wasn't used on much software. Ideally you'd just put everything above 1MB and not deal with the RAM nightmare anymore. Surprised DOS/4G wasn't mentioned. It allows 32-bit software to run in DOS above 1MB. No emulators for DOS/4G for RAM hungry 16-bit programs I assume.

[@billy9506]

Lol @ all these RAM problems. If only they had good internet speeds to download more. Oh, need a good CPU to unzip the new RAM too.

[@o0Donuts0o]

The intro is perfectly skippable with a double-tap. It’s like they knew…

[@barriewilson3052]

Thank fuck i was using my amiga 1200 from 93 to 96.

[@Kaynos]

Oh yeah I remember Memmaker.

[@gamerdaddy2570]

they showed museum and now they are history LOL

[@itelicaltd2239]

17:26 Gary Saxer - an alpha geek.

[@CzlowiekDrzewo]

Just download more ram

[@CompatibilityMadness]

Host in 3:50 said that "...typical PC has got 4MB of RAM", and that his first computer got 4kB. I had 4GB in my old PC, and it still wasn't enough for some tasks i was doing... Oh and best program to check Your RAM (in 2013) is "memtest86"*. *U install it on USB pendrive, and boot from it instead of Windows.

[@cookingwithcorey3346]

How did I understand this as a kids but have no idea wtf they are talking about now?

[@lucatoni4509]

still losing..

[@solodante5905]

I wonder how much longer for 1TB of RAM to be common place? At this point I believe the max amount of RAM is 256GB for a top of the line server.

[@deneb_tm]

Nope, some server motherboards support up to 1.5 TB of memory.

[@solodante5905]

Damn.

[@deneb_tm]

Eddie Romero And those are boards with DDR3 slots.

[@ArcadeGames]

In about 10 years I would imagine 1TB of RAM to be laughable.

[@yellowblanka6058]

@@ArcadeGames I highly doubt 1TB of RAM will be common in 10 years, let alone "laughable" - that would imply that RAM pricing and availability/program usage will both change drastically. In 2010 4GB of RAM was common, in 2019 8-16 is now standard, given how Moore's Law has blown a few tires, it's highly dubious that your average system will have as much RAM in 10 years as average storage today.

[@Astinsan]

Here I think (and know) 16 gigs of memory is low.. lol

[@EndoFury1]

It's not low. It's as low as you should build any new rig with, but it's not low. 4GB is low.

[@codebeat4192]

The woman at the beginning sound Dutch, correct? That memory diagnostics (windows program) dude knows he is talking bullshit and sell bullshit, they sell contracts and just want to gather user information, hate it. The rest of the video is commercial "i want to sell (what's in store) " stuff, I think that was the end of TCC?

[@pvtglarson1]

does chiefet rush people or is it just me

[@LimitlessHate]

my computer in the LATE 90s barely had 50mb. Win98 was comfy with around 64mb.

[@acmenipponair]

Damn, they are promoting scam software. The software don't "doubles" the RAM. It just fixes the allocation problems the old Mac System had. And then lies to you and says, you have double the RAM...

[@grabisoft]

Well at the end of they day the reality is they gave you double the ram with their software. So..

[@Ojisan642]

It might be poorly named, but it wasn’t scam software like you would think of today. Memory management was done manually with config files back then. If you didn’t know how, you were screwed, and you might have software that wouldn’t run because of the amount of available memory, even if your physical RAM was more than enough. These type of utilities even came with later versions of DOS, and helped ensure you maxed out your available memory, so it’s not like it was being sold as a scam. It wasn’t until Windows 95 that home PCs did a decent job of managing memory automatically. The guy does a good job of explaining how it works. It’s reclaimed allocated but unused memory for use by other applications. Something you’d take for granted today.

[@AgeofReason]

U Ain shit bitch nigga

[@mikemdk2]

I never have insufficient memory, 32 gigs of ram serve me well

[@BlownMacTruck]

Are you really this stupid?

[@barriewilson3719]

32gigs. Thats a kids toy.

[@MadersPie]

Ah the 90's, when PC's were young and snake oil was abundant!

[@KabelkowyJoe]

Bill Gates never said what he been acused but he was IBM advisoor to accept or reject Intel x86 20bit addressing space, Motorola 68k was 16bit but could adress up to 32bits in future witch happened. One decision caused problem for next 10 years and in fact until UEFI was presented enabling more drivers to be pre-installed in Firmware enabling booting from more devices and controlling hardware. He also ignored Internet, security concerns regarding ActiveX, VBScript, Autorun.inf and Windows 9x kernel in Windows ME, UAC made via WinAPI hooks witch caused huge bottleneck until Windows 7/Vista SP2 solved that a little then ignoring need for ZFS kind of file system (snapshots at filesystem level not userspace - update failure long boot loops) many many stupid things. There would not be Windows without Pentium and IBM/Motorolla problems to deliver PowerPC just 12-18 months eariler. This dude and his friend is also responsible for hiding Windows Mobile Win32 subsystem in Windows Phone 7, destruction of Qt based Nokia MeeGo and BlackBerry OS 10 witch caused Google to monopolize OS market. It was good for moment but bad team to stuck with for long term.. WinForms, .NET all is now obsolete, UWP and all that crap.uch effort of people fixing windows even stupid program Alax NTFS Links that should been build in.. it would not be as good product without it just as DOS was without Norton Commander for example. Hasta la Vista Windows. It became new DOS only good for games

[@DhavidSetiawanKilluaDhavid]

Aww F... 4MB RAM

[@blackneos940]

Losing Memory... I forgot what this episode was about. Wait, who am I again?

[@sologals361]

Was Stewart Chiefet the Vince Mcmann of Computer chronicles.

[@paeporeckoner]

yeah, the guy was definitely a douche and a half! especially on the older episodes... it was like he constantly had a corn cob shoved up his ass!!

[@chubbycatfish4573]

Good shit, pal.

[@valentinoesposito3614]

lol 10mb flash memory, now you can get 1TB SSDs for $400

[@ericcartmann]

***** ya they are moving on to PCI, which you can easily get terabits worth of bandwidth out of.

[@cptmiche]

***** Remember back in 2008 where 20Gb of SSD memory was hundreds of dollars? Eeyup.

[@megabojan1993]

+cptmiche Intel X25 120GB SSD was 600$ in 2008.

[@cptmiche]

Thank you Mr. Nitpick. What would the world be without you?

[@megabojan1993]

cptmiche The world would be a boring place without me :)

[@ericb252]

This sounds like a gimmick. Hard to believe this actually work?

[@morgorth3242]

need more ram? just install bigger ram modules problem solved

[@E_y_a_l]

Not in the prices back then.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

Not that simple. Memory was costly back then and just like today, motherboards were memory size locked so once you hit a certain configuration, you either have to buy all new memory sticks and/or went to a different motherboard or system altogether. Either way, it was out of the price range for the average user.

[@morgorth3242]

@@oldtwinsna8347 back then you could easly mix differend ram size modules. and the speed was all the same on the same platform

[@oldtwinsna8347]

@@morgorth3242 Nope, not true at all

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

This host talks over every guest

[@JimBob1937]

They have a strict time limit per segment, as well as having to rein in over-excited guests (even for this show, there is such a thing as too technical) and assisting nervous guests. From the episodes I've watched it seems like he strikes a fair balance.

[@jeffm2787]

RAM doubler, lol. Snake oil.

[@markchas4554]

Back then virtually every third party ram doubler, grower, etc was a complete scam. QEMM was pretty much the only reliable one, but by 1998 or so it became irrelevant. And come on, can't make a boot disk? Not really computer literate? My mother knew how to create a system disk in 1995.

[@chaoticsystem2211]

memmaker ROTFL

[@92Garrus]

Why the hell did the guys stay on camera after they were dismissed? Was that common to talk shows in the 90s? I was too busy shitting my pants and running outside at this time lol

[@samwyse2006]

Funny how the awful MS-DOS existed in the same world as Macs and Amigas.

[@ibazulic]

Completely open architecture of the IBM PC standard because of which there were many many many clones which lowered prices significantly and complete backwards compatibility between 16 bit and 32 bit and even 64 bit architectures of Intel x86 chips. You can install MSDOS on Core i7 and it will work because of default BIOS functions on predefined memory locations. This is why MSDOS was prevalent. Because it was cheap compared to Macs and it had a humongous software base conpared to Amiga.

[@selami32]

yes I remembered how useless MemMaker is.