The Computer Chronicles - Pentium PCs (1993)

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The Computer Chronicles

The Computer Chronicles

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@RobertNES816
@RobertNES816 3 жыл бұрын
The 90's was a BAD time to buy a PC. Anything you bought just became obsolete a week later lol.
@CTimmerman
@CTimmerman 3 жыл бұрын
"It's All About the Pentiums" - Weird Al
@BlownMacTruck
@BlownMacTruck 3 жыл бұрын
Not really. Stuff moved faster but the price premiums were insane. That and the fact that software didn’t keep pace at all means staying on top of the curve was hardly necessary.
@PropaneWP
@PropaneWP 3 жыл бұрын
It was a transitional period. Components were expensive and there was a higher chance that you'd buy some architecture that didn't go anywhere in terms of evolution and compatability. It was also much harder to educate yourself on the tech. Remember that you couldn't go online and get informed easily like you can today. It was a far riskier market. Additionally, you did need the newest most powerful stuff for the latest games, more so than with modern games. If you wanted to play the hottest games, you needed newest tech. Like a 3D graphics card, preferably a new soundcard, a SCSI CDROM drive, and so on.
@abc-eq9so
@abc-eq9so 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah tell me about it :) I remember my dad buying me a brand new Hewlett Packard in 1996. In 1998 I couldn't play any games :D My latest computer I bought in 2014 and it still runs pretty good :D
@peterbinkley9613
@peterbinkley9613 3 жыл бұрын
God don't remind me....
@ZaPpaul
@ZaPpaul 4 жыл бұрын
Quake single handedly sold more Pentium CPUS than any other single factor. Intel owe a big thanks to ID Software.
@ens8502
@ens8502 Жыл бұрын
And what about graphic accelerators...
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
@@ens8502 Quake II did for GPUs what Quake I did for the Pentium CPU.
@vanderlinde4you
@vanderlinde4you Жыл бұрын
Actually Intel paid ID software to "optimize" the use of Quake and MMX tech. The word pentium is nothing more then 5 or 586 in latin, since Intel wanted to abandon using 386/486 naming scheme. The only reason why Quake ran so well using a pentium was due to the optimised code path. It would run less on a Cyrix or AMD chip. But they would have had the same performance if it offered some sort of simular code path.
@swolfington
@swolfington Жыл бұрын
​@vanderlinde4you do you have a source for that? Quake predated MMX pentiums and I feel like id knew they would be printing money with the game either way. If they could have made it run faster on a 486 they absolutely would have - why alienate a huge sector of their existing customers? Also the reason why Intel went with the pentium branding over 586 is because they couldn't stop competing manufacturers from producing chips named 386, 486, 586, etc due to trademark technicalities, but they could trademark the brand name pentium, and thus the only one able to actually sell "pentium" chips.
@TorazChryx
@TorazChryx Жыл бұрын
@@vanderlinde4you Quake predated the MMX Pentium by 6 months, and it ran so well on the Pentium because they made absolutely maximum use of the floating point unit, there's actually a sourceport project called "486Quake" that's attempting to uncouple the performance sensitive part of the renderer from the P54C FPU, and they've definitely made it perform better on 486/K5/5x86/6x86/K6 cpus... but the new code also allows a Pentium to stretch it's lead even further. Pentium just has a better FPU than its contemporary x86 cpus, even if they were as fast (or faster) for integer operations.
@TheDrapetomanic
@TheDrapetomanic 3 жыл бұрын
"One machine actually has a fan sitting on the cooling fins!" He says gleefully at the novelty of the idea.
@ikkeheltvanlig
@ikkeheltvanlig 3 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah it's magnificent. It's so cool to listen to the in-the-know folks back then knowing how it went
@dopiaza2006
@dopiaza2006 3 жыл бұрын
My 486DX4-100 had a fan!
@ShamanKish
@ShamanKish 3 жыл бұрын
"A tiny little fan"!
@AltimaNEO
@AltimaNEO 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine their minds being blown by the RGB coated wind tunnels that are todays PCs
@RuruFIN
@RuruFIN 2 жыл бұрын
And in these days custom loop watercooling is practically mainstream. :D
@omegaman1409
@omegaman1409 3 жыл бұрын
This guy should be included in the personal computer museum. He has been geeking his way through since the very beginnings
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
imagine having a quad Pentium cpu computer that would be something to be hold man
@jgordon7719
@jgordon7719 Жыл бұрын
​@@raven4k998❤
@Lexip_Pixel
@Lexip_Pixel Жыл бұрын
Interestingly, he abruptly halted the show from one day to the next, as if he were aware that by the early 2000s, computers were no longer novelties but had transitioned into mere tools. People began to show greater interest in the brand, waiting for the Marketing to tell them what they could achieve with their products, rather than delving into the technical intricacies of how they functioned and found by themselves (Thank you Apple ;) ).
@mikmop
@mikmop Жыл бұрын
He has to be king of the geeks if his customers are configuring their machines for neural networks and artificial intelligence
@Gumbypotty
@Gumbypotty Жыл бұрын
@@Lexip_Pixel And by the early 2000s internet was so big that a show like Computer Chronicles wasn't needed anymore. Same with many magazines. You got the computer news and in depth reviews online.
@douggale5962
@douggale5962 4 жыл бұрын
Pentium was about 2x the speed of 486, for integer operations. For floating point operations, the Pentium trounces the 486, they aren't even in the same league, 10x or more performance. This paved the way to fully 3D games.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
it's all about the Pentiums Baby🤣
@TurboXray
@TurboXray Жыл бұрын
pentium 60/66 first versions were trash
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 Жыл бұрын
Early versions of the Pentium clocked at 60, 66 and 90 MHz (P5 5V) had a problem with the floating point unit, which in rare circumstances reduced the accuracy of some calculations. This problem, discovered in 1994, was a major source of embarrassment for Intel, which finally agreed to replace all defective chips with corrected versions. Intel knew about the problem but covered it up until it became public knowledge... And my 486DX4-100 was only few % slower than Pentium 60Mhz... The whole "3d games" change came later with introduction of completly new Penium MMX as it was providing some real boost that was used in games. I think that only Dungeon Keeper was the only popular game that required Penium CPU to work and that game was published in 1997, then there was MMX and era of 3D accelerators(first as an extra card that was cooperating with your GPU)...
@douggale5962
@douggale5962 Жыл бұрын
@@Bialy_1 The Pentium FPU is fully pipelined. You can fxch with st(n) and keep switching the other argument for the stack based ISA, and it optimized away the fxch so you could have effectively one cycle per operation throughput, a couple of cycle latency, if you pipelined your x87 assembly. The 486 just stalled and executed 20-40+ cycles for each FPU operation, with a long sequence of microcode. Pentium could handle two instructions per clock, back to back, and it had a branch predictor, and even a static predictor. Mysterious branches that branch back are assumed taken (bottoms of loops), those that branch forward are assumed not taken (if checks being false jumping over body or to else). 486 fetch didn't even care if there were branches, it just assumed the next instruction is next, every time, with a pipeline bubble every taken branch.
@AdamsOlympia
@AdamsOlympia Жыл бұрын
It came out a year after I got my first pc, an 486 SX 25 mhz. I'd have gladly waited a year without a computer if I knew what was in store and the benefits it'd have on gaming. Didn't end up getting another until years later -- a Celeron 380mhz
@zorinlynx
@zorinlynx 3 жыл бұрын
They're pretty devious; they picked a fairly slow 486 (33MHz) to compare with the 66MHz Pentium. In 1993 a more fair benchmark comparison would have been with a 486DX2/66 vs the Pentium 66 to see the Pentium's advantage at the same CPU clock.
@bloqk16
@bloqk16 Жыл бұрын
Ah! You noticed that, too! I had a newly acquired 486DX/66 PC at the time of this presentation, as the 33 MHz were being phased-out. An issue I had with Computer Chronicles back then was when vendors presented their wares; as they were always tweaked to tip-top performance . . . at a level you couldn't get when buying the same item from a retailer. I recall when PDAs were first being shown on Computer Chronicles, as the presentations were flawless. The same PDAs in the hands of consumers were nothing but headaches with faulty OS and problems with characters recognition; resulting with PDAs fading from the scene for several years afterwards.
@The92Waffles
@The92Waffles Жыл бұрын
@@bloqk16 Good thing for the internet so we can see many different reviews from independent reviewers. That's not to say independent reviewers can't be biased themselves, but we have tons of sources we can get info from to make a better buying decision these days
@KabelkowyJoe
@KabelkowyJoe Жыл бұрын
Say whatever you want unfair comparison, but Pentium was superscalar architecture 486 was not, and nothing could match that, essentially allowing instructions such as multiplication, division normally take 6-12cycles virtually to be executed in 1cycle.
@KabelkowyJoe
@KabelkowyJoe Жыл бұрын
BTW. I worked as technician in company making pipes. And literally way how CPU "pipeline" works is based on exact same principle pipes are made - joints formed. Because for eaxmple heating takes 60s and forming 15s it's better to have 3-4 separate heaters 15s each an heat 4 pipes simultaniously. Same trick in car manufacturing will cause one car to exit line in time that is equivalent to time of longest step on that line. In world of CPUs split instructin into chunks: decode, fettch, execute, store thanks to pipeline every 4 cycle instruction will virtually take 1 cycle because pipeline was able to hold 4 instrucions at once and execute simultaniously At that time every other CPU had to become internally RISC and had to split instructions into chunks. Pentium was game over to 486, AMD 486, Cyrix, Motorolla 68k etc. Doom's day 1993 - Apple, IBM, Motorolla had to introduce PowerPC there was no other way. Maybe they cheated bit - good observation, but it was indeed a game changer anyway
@tikkiwich9700
@tikkiwich9700 Жыл бұрын
@@KabelkowyJoe That just raises more questions. They could've put the Pentium against a DX2/66 with a workload that the Pentium would've benefitted from. They didn't. Why not pit it against a 386 SX/25 in that case? Sans 387.
@happyebb
@happyebb Жыл бұрын
Absolutely miss the PC evolution race during the 90s when growing up. Trade shows were a blast with demonstrations. You never got bored, just new wow factors and possibilities happening all the time, endless fun, excitement and new discoveries. At that time I still had a 286 with 1mb of ram! Listening to these guys with multi processors and 1gb ram setup, reminds me of the endless times I dreamed my dad would one day upgrade. Playing games like mean streets, Wolfenstein 3D and wing commander 2 took a toll on our big little PC ;) the sound blaster donated to me by a friend helped breath life into my PC experiences.
@martik778
@martik778 Жыл бұрын
I remember my 1st 286 for 3k with 640k ram (1984ish). It was $700 to upgrade to 1MB!!! I just built a 12th gen intel with 32GB for
@tommyeastwood4393
@tommyeastwood4393 7 ай бұрын
I still had Atari 65xe at that time…
@JerryShugars
@JerryShugars 4 жыл бұрын
Lol! Just imagine. A fan sitting right on top of the cooling fins.
@dawicked2k8
@dawicked2k8 4 жыл бұрын
Mind blown! 🤣🤣🤣
@carringbushpet
@carringbushpet 4 жыл бұрын
lol I was hoping for this comment
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 4 жыл бұрын
It's almost like this was recorded over 20 years ago and tech was quite a bit different. Whodathunkit?!? Lol, I love these low-effort comments on every one of these videos.
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 4 жыл бұрын
@RectalDiscourse That's the true mark of a "gaming" part right there.
@iandrsaurri625
@iandrsaurri625 4 жыл бұрын
@@yellowblanka6058 You're no fun.
@kanopus06
@kanopus06 9 жыл бұрын
I bought my first pentium pc in 1996, 3 years later, but was a 166MHz one, with 32MB of EDO RAM, 2.5GB HDD and the first accelerated 3D vga (3D Blaster PCI with Rendition Vérité V1000), and that still was quite expensive.
@kanopus06
@kanopus06 8 жыл бұрын
+Despiser Despised nice! I bought it to play Quake @ 640x480. There were a bunch of games with a Rendition accelerated version, but I don't remember many.
@misterkrad
@misterkrad 8 жыл бұрын
+kanopus06 32mb? thats nothing. i had 28 mb on my sound blaster (tm)
@blob5907
@blob5907 2 жыл бұрын
you paid all that money for hot garbage
@happyebb
@happyebb Жыл бұрын
I remember my school mate spend quite a bundle on almost the same setup with the largest monitor ever in 1996. My mind was being blown away by the 2gb HD and thinking who would need that much space hahaha, it was the best PC setup I knew of. Testing games on it was a show of performance for me. Duke nukem, quake, need for speed heck yeah!!
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
If you had a 2.5 Gig harddive in 1996, it was probably one of the most expensive parts in the system. I remember still paying a hefty price for 2.5Gig in June 1997. I bought my first whole 1Gig drive in 1996, and that one also wasn't cheap.
@yaosio
@yaosio 8 жыл бұрын
It's cool to think that the Raspberry Pi Zero is faster than any desktop shown in this video and it's $5.
@callofdutyblackops9
@callofdutyblackops9 8 жыл бұрын
+Noah LeFoot PI's are actually around 35-50 bucks depending on the packages you get, but yeah, its so tiny, but still blows these out of the water.
@ty3pyro
@ty3pyro 8 жыл бұрын
+xXShadowXx No, it's 5 dollars... He said the raspberry pi zero which is a 5 dollar model.
@callofdutyblackops9
@callofdutyblackops9 8 жыл бұрын
Tornreality Ah, okay, hadn't heard of those. Holy crap they're tiny.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 4 жыл бұрын
but theyre not x86 based, therefore useless to 9 out of 10 people
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 4 жыл бұрын
who cares any modern cpu even the intel atom is faster than any desktop shown in this video
@darrenskjoelsvold
@darrenskjoelsvold 4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap the prices were outrageous back then. I forgot how expensive computers used to be.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
meh they still can be so stop lying kid
@darrenskjoelsvold
@darrenskjoelsvold 2 жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 kid? My first computer was a commodore 64. I bought them back then. Just sorta marvelled at how far we have come.
@misterxmistery7424
@misterxmistery7424 Жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 When an actual kid calls an adult a kid lmao
@marcomoreno6748
@marcomoreno6748 Жыл бұрын
@@darrenskjoelsvold These days one can purchase a decently powerful laptop on Amazon, have it shipped and delivered within a week- all for less than an average day's wages. Light gaming, video streaming, documents, browsing. Economies of scale!
@andreamitchell4758
@andreamitchell4758 Жыл бұрын
@@darrenskjoelsvold That actually was my second computer, my first was a TI you are just a kid
@rustynail6819
@rustynail6819 Жыл бұрын
I remember having to replace hundreds of Pentium chips in 1994 when they found out they had a massive issue with the decimal point in like the 26 position being wrong, which caused computation problems and giving wrong data. Biggest microprocessor recall in history, and I was on a job site for months doing the replacing! Fun times!!
@tmp-3mtempest79
@tmp-3mtempest79 Жыл бұрын
I remember this being something of an industry joke? That the recalled processors were not "IEEE" but "AIIIEEEE" if used in anything critical? That must have been... 'fun', working on replacements for that.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
Must have been hell, with those early pentiums not having ZIF sockets.....
@AngelDemonn
@AngelDemonn Жыл бұрын
​@@paulmichaelfreedman8334socket 4 was ZIF since the beginning. You are thinking about the first 486s
@imtekcs
@imtekcs Жыл бұрын
I remember that. The Pentiums had a floating point error. Pentium 60/66/90/100 if I remember correctly. They also ran really hot drawing 5v
@mattdavenport533
@mattdavenport533 Жыл бұрын
AMD for the win
@TezzerethPrime
@TezzerethPrime 7 жыл бұрын
Why did I need a Pentium? DOOM
@lorumipsum1129
@lorumipsum1129 7 жыл бұрын
please, doo runs on anything, you dont need a pentium for that.
@earthwolf82
@earthwolf82 7 жыл бұрын
Doom? you didn't need a pentium for that lol.
@LazorNoob
@LazorNoob 6 жыл бұрын
you did to run it in full screen and not in a tiny box on the screen, look at philscomputerlab's test. a 486 was the minimum that doom looked okay on, and even that couldn't give you a full 35 fps in full screen and several doom wads would choke it
@mikeall7012
@mikeall7012 6 жыл бұрын
Kingston 586 upgrade for the 486 boards was well enough to run doom at max resolution. It wasn't until quake that gaming made the 486 boards obsolete.
@timking3587
@timking3587 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with that. Played Doom 2 on my 486 Sx25. The frame rate on the last level where all the demons get shoot out the Icon of Sin killed the FPS. Played on my friends PC P75 the FPS was crazy fast. 🤪🤪👍
@Phenom98
@Phenom98 5 жыл бұрын
Oh lord. That's the most 1993 thing ever! 7:17 🤣
@laz7354
@laz7354 4 жыл бұрын
Moo!
@dmitrilebedev8635
@dmitrilebedev8635 3 жыл бұрын
12:45 too
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
oh common a cow needs sunglasses to show the true power of your computer off dude it's standard test right there🤣🤣
@variator7466
@variator7466 4 жыл бұрын
The last time I was really impressed with the performance enhancement from upgrading a PC was going from 486-DX2 66 to a P166
@buckjas
@buckjas 4 жыл бұрын
Ah the good old days when CPU coolers were a novel thing 😂
@HouseOfFunQM
@HouseOfFunQM 4 жыл бұрын
The good old days where those sales folk really knew their computers
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 4 жыл бұрын
They cancelled the P60 because it was such a heat pig. I don't think the P66 was any better? In fact I think the problem remained with the P90 too. But after the P90 they got temperatures under control. I had a P200 and it ran OK. I couldn't afford the P233 top of the pops chip at the time. Well, I could have afforded it but I just couldn't justify the premium it commanded. I scrapped a PC not long ago that had a P233 in it and seeing the chip made me laugh. Stuff isn't even worth the electricity it burns to run today.
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever Жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred A real machine is still better than an emulation.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred Жыл бұрын
@@OpenGL4ever why is that? We live in a simulation now. It seems OK.
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever Жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred Some games don't run properly in emulation mode.
@BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes
@BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes 3 жыл бұрын
In 1993 i got the almighty Amiga 1200. It was and still is a glorious computer. No regrets at all.
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever Жыл бұрын
The Amiga 1200 was already too slow when it was released. But it's definitely one of the best Amiga based retro machines if you want play old Amiga games.
@steveschu
@steveschu Жыл бұрын
@@OpenGL4ever Agree, In 1990 Amiga had graphics and sound that I was impressed by playing Flight Simulator. Then they fell apart and intel wiped them out.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
68000 series CPU was probably the best line of CPUs ever released.
@MrAndroidData
@MrAndroidData Жыл бұрын
a500 for me, still could out perform all these yellow head pushers
@Olgasys
@Olgasys 10 ай бұрын
@@OpenGL4everIf you added a 68060 CPU it was head to head with Pentium and except the NT Workstations they were running Win95 or even DOS. Amiga kernel and OS is state of art.
@hubzcaps
@hubzcaps 5 жыл бұрын
I used to watch this religeously as a kid thanks to you Stuart for the killer format and fun times. My first pc was a compaq portable 3.. Mmm amber screens
@N0obusMaximus
@N0obusMaximus 7 жыл бұрын
$4000 for PC in 1993. Inflation adjusted, that would be $6774 today.
@videosuperhighway7655
@videosuperhighway7655 4 жыл бұрын
N0obusMaximus i had to make do with a used 386dx with 387 in 93.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when I started my first job in high school in June 98 working all summer and then some just to save up just under $600 to build my first real gaming machine with an AMD K6-II 550Mhz CPU, thinking I was getting a deal doing it myself, and just a few days ago I bought a used Lenovo Thankcentere M53 off eBay for my aunt to use as a basic web machine on Chromium OS, and it cost me $47.58 LoL!
@elimalinsky7069
@elimalinsky7069 4 жыл бұрын
@@CommodoreFan64 Today you can build a Xeon workstation with a Titan V and 128GB RAM for just over $6000. PCs have become truly affordable. I remember my dad buying a 486DX/66 in late 1995 due to a massive price drop when the second generation Pentium arrived and the 486 was considered obsolete. The price was still over a thousand dollars, and that's with 16MB RAM, a basic SVGA card, a basic Sound Blaster card, a 28K modem and a 14" CRT monitor. It could still play most games decently when it was brand new, but two years later, no new games would even launch. That's when I saved enough to buy a Pentium-166 and an original 3dfx Voodoo card, when the Pentium II and Voodoo 2 were already out, and older tech became significantly cheaper in an instant.
@Nine-Signs
@Nine-Signs 4 жыл бұрын
2020 update: $7,136 dollars and 25 cents.
@Nine-Signs
@Nine-Signs 4 жыл бұрын
@RectalDiscourse Yup, which is why middle class and up got PC's and peasant kids like me got an Atari ST until PC's could be bought for few hundred on the second user market.
@robertmartin1116
@robertmartin1116 6 жыл бұрын
9:52 This guy is blown away by a heat sink and fan. Imagine his excitement when he hears about water cooling in the future....
@sarfaraz.hosseini
@sarfaraz.hosseini 4 жыл бұрын
Watercooling would start 3 years after this video, aircooling is still more reliable and quieter with almost as good performance as an AIO.
@andree1991
@andree1991 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine when they see the Vodka-powered water cooling system from Boris. It transcends the very concept of GOD.
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 4 жыл бұрын
That's because this was made over 20 years ago and it was unheard of to need a cooling fan + heatsink in a consumer machine. It's commonplace now, but it was anything but back then. Also, water-cooling is more about reducing noise than inherent cooling efficiency.
@yellowblanka6058
@yellowblanka6058 4 жыл бұрын
@@sarfaraz.hosseini Maybe in a few labratories/SGI servers perhaps, but I never heard about watercooling in the consumer space until very recently.
@Nine-Signs
@Nine-Signs 4 жыл бұрын
Liquid cooling was already in use at scale since 1975, see Cray-1 for details, but passive cooling at most was all that was needed at home prior to this line, hence excitement. :)
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 4 жыл бұрын
The latest 486 CPUs were really very fast but the Pentium opened the world of multimedia and internet.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
meh I will stick with my ryzen 9 cpu it beats those ancient Pentiums🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Ozfrank
@Ozfrank Жыл бұрын
486DX4-100 and AM5x86-133 was faster than P-66 in all applications besides games! And iconic of Pentium superiority was Quake
@fra93ilgrande
@fra93ilgrande Жыл бұрын
So true, my first ever PC had a Pentium 100Mhz! Ps: Intel, The computer inside! 🤓
@annother3350
@annother3350 Жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 ya reckun?!
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever Жыл бұрын
I disagree. It wasn't the Pentium, that opened multimedia. It was the CD-ROM drive that opened the world of multimedia.
@TheJ602
@TheJ602 3 жыл бұрын
Upgraded from a 486 DX 33 to a Cyrix 686. Biggest performance increase was I could finally play mp3s.
@derek20la
@derek20la Жыл бұрын
CPU Galaxy channel has a video testing different 486 chips to find the minimum speed to decode a mp3 file (which are heavy on floating point) A 486DX4-100 was the minimum for stereo, but a DX2-66 could do mono 64kbps files kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGHdi6Owra2Gm68
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
Cyrix always had the least performing CPUs, clock for clock. They could never touch Intel or AMD (That had comparable performance to Intel, often more).
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 Жыл бұрын
@@derek20la I got 486DX4-100 and i was playing MP3, if i remember it was having some issues with very high sampling rate but at that time everything was compresed to super small sizes so it was not an issue.
@monetize_this8330
@monetize_this8330 4 жыл бұрын
This stuff is always interesting to see attitudes and the bogus reasons for requiring an upgrade. sales and marketing - nothing changes.
@Maltebyte2
@Maltebyte2 4 жыл бұрын
those old cpus made our new cpus possible, each generation desigining the next. I find that fascinating!
@VRGamercz
@VRGamercz 3 жыл бұрын
Not true. For instance pentium 4 was a dead end. They remade pentium 3 into core 2 duo while nehalem (1st I3, 5 and 7 gen) was completely different architecture all along.
@helloitsme4139
@helloitsme4139 Жыл бұрын
@@VRGamerczpentium 4 brought us hyper threading and new instruction sets, we still use them today
@Nine-Signs
@Nine-Signs Жыл бұрын
2023: and now they design themselves 2063: OH DEAR GOD OUR ROBOT OVERLORDS ARE BURNING EVERTHING 🔥 🔥 😱 😱
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
@@VRGamerczThe Pentium M / Core 1 was the intermediate architecture. Definitely ran much cooler than the P4s of the time.
@TorazChryx
@TorazChryx Жыл бұрын
@@VRGamercz Netburst overall was a dead-end, but they sure learned how to make a really solid branch predictor off the back of Prescott's 31-stage pipeline
@LOLZpersonok
@LOLZpersonok 7 жыл бұрын
That server with the capability to accommodate 1GB of RAM must have made people squeal at that time.
@discomfort5760
@discomfort5760 4 жыл бұрын
1GB of RAM is a vast amount, software just became more sloppily written as better hardware became cheaper than the pace of development for the bloatware we use today.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 4 жыл бұрын
@Chesty McStudmuffin I hear that, it's part of why I moved from Windows 10 to Manjaro Linux as I have 120GB SSD for the boot drives in my systems, and by time I got everything I needed installed along with updates on Windows 10 I was using about 70GB of space, however on Manjaro I'm using just under 20GB due to tighter code, and no bloatware.
@procta2343
@procta2343 4 жыл бұрын
laugh is, I don't think windows NT 3.x ever saw 1 gig, I know NT4 will have done. I know the two do see 4 gig of ram.
@procta2343
@procta2343 4 жыл бұрын
@@CommodoreFan64 Windows 10 really needs a good thin out, it has that much shite in it that no one uses. I know windows XP you could thin right out at the time, my pal got that down to less than a gig, on his drive.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 4 жыл бұрын
@@procta2343 Personally I feel Windows 10 needs to be scrapped, with MS moving fully over to a full Linux kernel based OS, and just having a team to help with Wine development, to get more older Windows software to work if someone really does need it. Then software devs. would have no choice but to write tighter code, and we would get way more hardware support as well. In reality I know that won't happen anytime soon, but one can dream. 😔
@Zoomer30
@Zoomer30 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that Gateway 2000 demo takes me back to 1995. I was at school and ordered a Gateway P5-75(mhz). Got the thing in two days. Came back to the dorm from class and saw some boxes in the mailroom with cow-spots. Checked by mail box and had a message. Big day. PC+CRT+Printer = $2300 It was from Gateways "open box store" so I got it "cheaper" 😂
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
remember don't copy that floppy be greedy and copy that cd instead🤣
@ruthlessluder
@ruthlessluder 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how everyone was so impressed and satisfied by the performance of the pentium chip. Next time you're excited about the next iPhone know that in 20 years people will be laughing their asses off.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
the new phone comes out and everyone's like meh cause the powers to much now for anyone to fully use now for their phones🤣
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
@LoveRetro44 sshhhhh don't be a pleb it's still increasing your just to stupid to notice that it is increasing
@SanctusBacchus
@SanctusBacchus Жыл бұрын
Not really. We are long past Moore's Law, we are pretty much at the limit of miniaturization. The user experience with apps is not significantly different now than it was 10 years ago. Pretty much everyone could pick up an iPhone 5s today and not have a significantly degraded experience with its core functions... this isn't comparable at all to the exponential rate of advancement in the 80s, 90s, or early 2000s.
@steveschu
@steveschu Жыл бұрын
What is so funny? I was 16 when Pentium came out and it blew everything off the map. Appreciate the fact that you wouldn't have anything without the success of these chips in their time.
@gblargg
@gblargg Жыл бұрын
Looking back at the slow machines of the day, I don't laugh, I'm thankful to not have to use them anymore. Though, the software was tens of times more efficient than today's software.
@stuartg40
@stuartg40 4 жыл бұрын
"Neural networks and artificial intelligence". I didn't expect to hear that from this 26-year old programme.
@GTA1395
@GTA1395 4 жыл бұрын
Stuart Black My computer engineering professor used to tell me that, back in the day, interest in neural networks and artificial intelligence would wax and wane every few generations. When the newest craze in neural networks came about it was primarily because of the move away from random forests to deep learning.
@lawrencemanning
@lawrencemanning 4 жыл бұрын
There's very little new in computing. 99% of it was worked out in the 1970s or earlier.
@nastyhardcore7641
@nastyhardcore7641 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the perception neural network was proposed in 1959. Deep learning probably in the 60s. It's really the availability of computing power, free and open source livraries, and abundance of data that ushered in the current mac ine learning craze. The theory has been around decades. Over a century if you consider statistical methods.
@infiltr80r
@infiltr80r 3 жыл бұрын
Neural networks were an old thing already at the end of 90s. I used NeuroDimension or whatever it's called in early 00s.
@JanuszKrysztofiak
@JanuszKrysztofiak 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, an attempt to use an artificial neural network for image recognition took place already in the late 1950s. For obvious reasons, it was implemented in hardware rather than software.
@Magnus_Loov
@Magnus_Loov 7 жыл бұрын
So they tested a 33 Mhz 486 vs a 66 MHz Pentium? No wonder Stewart commented "you are trying to sell these machines" to the Compaq guy. A total scam demo just to sell the Pentium based machines. 66 Mhz 486 were standard in 1993, there were absolutely no reason to use a 33 Mhz one, other than to make the Pentiums look greater than it was.
@Mr_Meowingtons
@Mr_Meowingtons 5 жыл бұрын
pretty much what my thoughts were.. a 66 MHz Pentium would have still beat a 66 Mhz 486 DX2... why use a 33Mhz?
@ian_b
@ian_b 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Meowingtons The first ones could be beaten by a DX100 and performance gains were modest to say the least.
@trivet1970
@trivet1970 5 жыл бұрын
@@ian_b didn't the P-60 have a heat issue as well?
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 5 жыл бұрын
@@ian_b That's true with code not optimized for the Pentium, which was a vast majority of programs for years.
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mr_Meowingtons 486-33 vs P-66 = 3 times as fast unoptimized. While I keep hearing 486-66 was standard, It wasn't by a long shot. They should be saying 486-66 was the focus for sales, but that's not what most ppl had (some had better but by a vast majority most had worse). But the real reason is, that it's much harder sell if you show only marginal improvements (you know kind of like the last few gen of processors). Marketing YAY!
@intel386DX
@intel386DX 2 жыл бұрын
13:40 this is a beast ! 1GB RAM max on the board for 1993! Strange enough only one CPU .
@thechemtrailkid
@thechemtrailkid Жыл бұрын
right? i remember being a kid and drooling over numbers like that in 90s
@BigEightiesNewWave
@BigEightiesNewWave 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks to Viagra , millions no longer have a floppy.
@Darth001
@Darth001 3 жыл бұрын
Haha made me laugh
@terabyt9007
@terabyt9007 3 жыл бұрын
😃
@ens8502
@ens8502 Жыл бұрын
HARD disks are also almost gone :)))
@AsianFlew
@AsianFlew Жыл бұрын
My first PC was the lower spec Gateway 2000 for about $2900, with the same case as in the video. That thing was a beast compared to the office computers. Even though I have upgraded and built many computers since then, I could not bear to throw that Gateway out and still have it in my basement.
@Synthematix
@Synthematix 4 жыл бұрын
Only $4,000, i see some things never change with Intel.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 4 жыл бұрын
well that's not true intels greed has increased over the years so they are more greedy then they were back then Intel is the new IBM
@WhitfieldProductionsTV
@WhitfieldProductionsTV 4 жыл бұрын
4k is what gateway was charging. OEM so, they got things at bulk pricing and upped it x2 to 3 times
@irixperson
@irixperson 4 жыл бұрын
Things have changed a lot, actually. Entry-level machines no longer cost six thousand dollars (.99 / .44 inflation rate -> 4000+2951 in 2019) and, of course, we have made great leaps in processor capability since then.
@jackedup447
@jackedup447 4 жыл бұрын
@@irixperson yeah thanks to emachines I guess right?
@UncleKennysPlace
@UncleKennysPlace 4 жыл бұрын
@@raven4k998 So what is greed? Asking money for something you created, that the buyer can take or leave? If that's it, you've a skewed worldview.
@MrGencyExit64
@MrGencyExit64 8 жыл бұрын
1 GiB of RAM in 1993, good grief. Where would you put the room full of SIMMs?
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 7 жыл бұрын
“GiB”...?
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 5 жыл бұрын
@@RWL2012 GiB is what happens when a bunch of idiots who want to rewrite history on behalf of the device/hard drive manufacturers so that they can make more money for less, disregarding many years of consistent usage before that.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 5 жыл бұрын
@@RWL2012 "A gibibyte (GiB) is a unit of measure of capacity used in computing. The prefix gibi originated with the binary system for measuring data capacity, which is based on powers of two. One gibibyte equals 230 or 1,073,741,824 bytes. The binary prefixes include kibi, mebi, gibi, tebi, pebi, exbi, zebi and yobi." searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/gibibyte-GiB
@HuntersMoon78
@HuntersMoon78 4 жыл бұрын
I hate it when people call it GiB - It's GB's
@harshnemesis
@harshnemesis 4 жыл бұрын
@@HuntersMoon78 Only Linsux lusers might call that GiB the rest of society calls it GB
@jj_1edzep
@jj_1edzep 2 жыл бұрын
1993: "3999 for a Gateway Pentium 1 PC with 16MB and 512MB storage, that's not bad." 2021: "2200 for a M1 Pro liquid retina XDR with 16GB and 512GB of storage, that's insane."
@uwontremembertrue1454
@uwontremembertrue1454 Жыл бұрын
You miss todays point that you have now other options. In 1993, well not much...
@Longlius
@Longlius Жыл бұрын
OEM margins have also vanished. PC manufacturers in the 90s were making the same general % as margin as Apple does today, but the PC space is far more crowded and so successive generations of price competition have driven commodity PC prices way down. The downside, of course, is that with thinner margins the actual quality of the PCs you buy nowadays is far less than it was in the 90s and the customer service is significantly worse.
@Ltulrich
@Ltulrich 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Gateway P5-100 with that same giant tower case. Loved it.
@murderdoggg
@murderdoggg 4 жыл бұрын
15:20 I find it fascinating. they are talking about Ai and neural networks back then.
@GaryCameron
@GaryCameron 4 жыл бұрын
3.1 million transistors... LOL I am watching this on a CPU with over 19 billion transistors, plus another 19 billion in the GPU.
@intelligentmadness3584
@intelligentmadness3584 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, if only you can time travel back to that year :P
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 4 жыл бұрын
And all you're doing is watching a video with it. Get a TV.
@GaryCameron
@GaryCameron 4 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred My monitor IS a TV. And even the act of unpacking and displaying a HD KZbin video in real time would be beyond what a hundred Pentium could do.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 4 жыл бұрын
@@GaryCameron my Pentium CPU played video. I was still using a dial up modem back then so I didn't have the bandwidth to stream a video. Heck I sent someone a video file once and it took 9 hours to transfer a file. At 49 kilobits a second. We couldn't believe it even finished. We were all like yeah. I had a P200 MMX myself. I also had a P90 but that PC had a bad HDD so I sent it back.
@GaryCameron
@GaryCameron 4 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred I had one back in the day too, and I remember you could play video but it was a lot lower resolution and frame rate. Also the compression used was a lot less. Mp4 was impossible at more than thumbnail resolution. MMX improved performance somewhat. The windows 95 good times and Weezer music videos that were included typifies what to expect.
@RCAFTailWind
@RCAFTailWind 3 жыл бұрын
I collect and restore vintage systems as a hobby. Try to build them to as much original spec as possible. It's a lot of fun sourcing parts and making these machines live again. So cool to watch these videos when this stuff was cutting edge.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
to restore them now though you have to used an ssd cause those old mech drives are way to unreliable anymore
@martik778
@martik778 Жыл бұрын
Interested in a Compaq SLT/286 ?
@dnakatomiuk
@dnakatomiuk Жыл бұрын
Are you LGR? Lol
@wallacelang1374
@wallacelang1374 11 ай бұрын
My first PC was a Gateway 2000 Pentium 233 Mhz MMX processor running Windows 95 as its operating system. I fondly remember watching this episode a few years before I bought my PC.
@QuantumBraced
@QuantumBraced 8 жыл бұрын
$4000... Pentiums really didn't make sense until 1995.
@kz1000ps
@kz1000ps 8 жыл бұрын
Yup, my family got our first computer in '95 with a 100 mhz Pentium and 8GB RAM for $1995. Good old piece of shit Packard Bell XD
@CalamityLime
@CalamityLime 7 жыл бұрын
kz1000ps that's a lot of ram for 1995 XD
@dzonikg
@dzonikg 7 жыл бұрын
My first pentium was also in 1995 ..90 mhz..and it played need for speed :D
@700gsteak
@700gsteak 7 жыл бұрын
Need 4 Speed 2 SE was where it was at. The Mclaren F1 was my favourite.
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 7 жыл бұрын
Obviously it was a typo and it was supposed to be 8MB :-P
@Two-Eyed_Boy
@Two-Eyed_Boy 2 жыл бұрын
I went with my mom to a local computer trade show in something like 1994 or 1995 to buy a desktop computer direct from a vendor among 100's of vendors. Wild times.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын
they could have pitted a 66 486 vs the 66 Pentium as it would have shown the performance difference by removing the clock speed difference
@grabisoft
@grabisoft 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna go back to this time, I don't like technology today. I mean today we can enjoy fast internet, large storage capacity, powerful computers... But I would trade all that for RE living time back them. Simplicity, not over complicated shit, no social media, no internet dependencies, no trolls commenting every single article, technology was a luxury for entertainment and work and not some millennial obligation that kids take for granted these days, the thrill of finding out about new games and stuff in magazines, lan gaming and I could go on forever
@Zero11s
@Zero11s 4 жыл бұрын
you could take this even further and further because of De-volution
@captainprototype187
@captainprototype187 4 жыл бұрын
no youtube.......
@infiltr80r
@infiltr80r 3 жыл бұрын
Back then it was for enthusiasts. Now every Chad builds his PC and only plays games and uses it for porn or Facebook. Zero interest in computers for their original purpose.
@megabojan1993
@megabojan1993 9 жыл бұрын
03:21 Even my Q9550 CPU from 2008 is much slower than that Pentium at opening multiple spreadsheets. Wow.
@Novusod
@Novusod 9 жыл бұрын
+MegaBojan1993 Bloatware has slowed down modern PC to the point no chip can keep up. A 75Mhz Pentium is faster than modern 4Ghz Quadcores at opening spreadsheets and word processing.
@RWL2012
@RWL2012 8 жыл бұрын
Under modern bloated Windows maybe
@CitarNosis317
@CitarNosis317 4 жыл бұрын
Love zoomers ripping on Pentium/Intel when they didn't even exist lmao. It was a huge step forward in computing - whether you acknowledge that or not.
@ChristopherGray00
@ChristopherGray00 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the zoomers you're talking about ripping on the pentiums don't exist, sounds like you made it up in your head.
@RonaldMcDonald519
@RonaldMcDonald519 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherGray00 yeah this isn’t exactly a hot topic among the youth 😂
@thelastdruidofscotland
@thelastdruidofscotland 2 жыл бұрын
expensive as hell, our school library pentium machine was £5,999, and each cartridge cd rom come in at a whopping £100 a pop, but it was bleeding edge at the time, I remember loading encarta and being blown away at the graphics, the school was sold a publishing package costing another £4,999, and included software, camera, mic, a scanner/printer, and various other bits n bobs, that pentium HP machine will live long in the memory as the first true multimedia capable pc I used, although at the time it was simply god level tier to a skint 12 year old kid, ten years later, you could buy the same machine for 25 quid.
@Zoomer30
@Zoomer30 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, now the cashe is right on the CPU chip. Comparing a current top of the line CPU to a Pentium 1 is like comparing a Tesla to a llama.
@TheJonathanc82
@TheJonathanc82 Жыл бұрын
I’ll never forget the first PC I had that was my own. It was a pentium 75, 800 MB HD, and 16 MB of RAM.
@WildlandExplorer
@WildlandExplorer 4 жыл бұрын
If you're editing 4K video definitely jump up to the 16mb of ram.
@markchas4554
@markchas4554 7 жыл бұрын
Today an 8 core Ryzen processor has 4,800,000,000 transistors. That is a big jump from only 24 years ago.
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps so, but it was already known possible as Moore's law was well established back then. What they didn't predict was what exactly we would be doing with our devices on a day to day basis, such as watching old videos of CC's.
@ucheucheuche
@ucheucheuche Жыл бұрын
It's so valuable they ask the cost of things, it's a timestamp on the change in value. Some reviewers today are averse to saying how much tech costs in their reviews because 'prices fluctuate'. I like price info to compare value on the used markets.
@jeffhayz7802
@jeffhayz7802 3 жыл бұрын
How much faster PCs got from 1992-1995 is utterly astounding, in 3 years performance overall quadrupled.
@drygnfyre
@drygnfyre 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly in line with Moore's Law.
@activelow9297
@activelow9297 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest jump was from 1998-2001.. 200Mhz Pentium II's to 1.8Ghz Pentium 4's.
@bonchbonch
@bonchbonch Жыл бұрын
@@activelow9297 The Pentium 4 was a misleading jump, though. The pipeline was spread out over more stages in order to increase clock speeds (which no doubt would be useful in marketing against AMD), but that ended up making it inefficient. It sometimes even performed worse than the Pentium III.
@activelow9297
@activelow9297 Жыл бұрын
@@bonchbonch It still was a 9x jump in clock speed in a very short period of time... and the Pentium III never went away. It went in disguise as the Pentium M, and then finally the Core Duo, which was 2 Pentium M's on a single die. The Pentium 4 architecture might have been a dark alley but by 2004 they were pumping them along at 3.986 Ghz, speeds which were not reached again until the late 2010's.
@bonchbonch
@bonchbonch Жыл бұрын
@@activelow9297 Right, it was a jump in clock speed, but that was misleading in terms of actual performance due to the flawed design that led to those high numbers, so it's kind of a meaningless milestone, unfortunately.
@Zoomer30
@Zoomer30 4 жыл бұрын
Host: "So how are these Pentiums at math?" Intel Rep:"Pretty good"
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 4 жыл бұрын
Yep 1 year later they had a recall for the FDIV bug lol
@tbuksuperfly
@tbuksuperfly 3 жыл бұрын
@@daishi5571 Ahh PENTIUM - Press Enter Now To Initiate Unreliable Mathematics
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 2 жыл бұрын
Mathematics ran better by a Pentium processor than an 486 one. The Pentium processor had a co-microprocessor included with it.
@DanielMarkstedtR
@DanielMarkstedtR 2 жыл бұрын
@@captainkeyboard1007 They we’re referring to a hardware bug with floating point calculations in early Pentium CPUs. It was widely reported at the time and led to a big recall. Pentium based PCs being bad at math became a running joke and meme for many years afterwards. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_FDIV_bug
@captainkeyboard1007
@captainkeyboard1007 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanielMarkstedtR Thank you for typing the facts that I missed by not being given chances and opportunities to work on the microcomputers by employment. Now that I have not been working since 1997, I bought my first microcomputer, namely Cybernet, a Windows-based computer in 2002, a Canon color laser printer, and a Canon scanner. I worked with Microsoft Office XP Professional and Microsoft Publisher 2002, that was run by Windows XP Professional. I learned a lot about using the different program applications by myself, that I would unlikely learn in a job. Once again, thank you for typing to me.
@salty-as-heck9915
@salty-as-heck9915 4 жыл бұрын
Our first home computer was a Compaq Presario with an Intel Pentium for around $2000 back in 1996. My newest desktop was only $749 with an i5. That is true progress.
@steveschu
@steveschu Жыл бұрын
Not comparable at all.
@jmitterii2
@jmitterii2 Жыл бұрын
From the chip makers to the retailers were making killing back in the day on the new computer systems.
@stan0033x
@stan0033x 2 жыл бұрын
16MB RAM. Yeyyy. My old PC from 1998 had DDR1 512MB RAM my self-built PC now has 32GB
@avader5
@avader5 4 жыл бұрын
Boy this brings back memories being one of the small group of people who were involved in the development and testing of the original 60/66MHz Pentium microprocessor (P5 project).
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
yeah my first pc was a pentium 60 that brings back memory's
@OpenGL4ever
@OpenGL4ever Жыл бұрын
And this CPU had a bug.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
Why were there distinct 60 and 66 MHz Pentiums? Was this due to the yields? P75, 90, 120 were also weirdly clocked. was the P133 the only CPU with true 33 MHz bus? I have my doubts about the 100, was it 25x4 or 33x3?
@kingcrimson234
@kingcrimson234 Жыл бұрын
The Pentium really was one of the big quantum leaps in CPU design. Legendary processor and a marvel of engineering at the time.
@denisparent8376
@denisparent8376 5 жыл бұрын
This computer so good, can't buy it at best buy, sold out!
@Vienesko
@Vienesko Жыл бұрын
What amazes me the most is that they have been talking about AI and neural nets...in 1993! So the concept itself is quite old but only comes to fruition now
@Longlius
@Longlius Жыл бұрын
AI and neural nets were mature tech in the *80s*. The issue is that the hype cycles around them created such high expectations that when the final products failed to live up to the hype, the entire investment bubble kind of imploded and no one wanted to touch AI for decades. Even the stuff we're picking up nowadays with ML and LLMs is (mostly) actually very old conceptually. The difference is that we have easy access to massive amounts of processing power to actually make them usable in a way they never were when they were first developed.
@BoomBox02
@BoomBox02 7 жыл бұрын
12:18 The Amiga was doing multitasking like this in Workbench back in 1985. The Amiga truly was the computer from the future.
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 5 жыл бұрын
SSSHHHHHHHHHHH PC ppl don't like their version of reality challenged.
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 5 жыл бұрын
Multitasking was an earth shaker, and everyone valued it... Save for Commodore corporate higher ups, who let their edge slip through gross incompetence. I don't think the IBM compatible would have ever been usurped, but Commodore could have wiped Apple off the face of the earth and proved a viable alternative.
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 5 жыл бұрын
@@jesuszamora6949 I read ppl try to downplay multitasking like it was unimportant. And I think that stems from the fact that it's not about doing something to make multitasking work, it's about just using the system in a more natural way, so it's invisible until you use a system that can't do it. Pre-emptive Multitasking - Amiga 1985 Mac 2001 (had to switch to OSX)
@dmtd2388
@dmtd2388 4 жыл бұрын
Amiga workstations was doing first hollywood films pre render CGI combined with Silicon Graphics for final render like Jurassic Park in 1992 and much more then and before while PCs and Apples could do just simple spreadsheet office use or some cad basic 16bit games including Pentiums with few words pcs and apples was 10 years back
@daishi5571
@daishi5571 4 жыл бұрын
@@dmtd2388 The very first Manchester United "Multimedia" CD had an opening title animation (not by me but a friend) that was done on an Amiga A500 That I had upgraded to an 68020 @16 MHz no HDD. He got a job at the company that was making the CD (he was freelance before) and when he started he couldn't believe the amount of money they was spending getting Macs to render 3D (top end hardware and latest software) and it was terrible, so he asked me to bring in my Amiga (I had considerably upgraded mine) to demonstrate what could be done with so much less. I did so, and blew anything they could do away. But none of that mattered, they were going all in with the Mac. So he would work at home on his system, bring it to mine to render then take it to work for many of the projects. He hated that for a fraction of what they were spending they could have had so much more and so much better.
@l67swap1
@l67swap1 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this on my 10980xe system with a rtx 3090... its really interesting to see how far its came in such a short time 😁
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 5 жыл бұрын
3:05 Half of those companies are long gone. 4:02 That's 800nm, vs. today's 10nm.
@zachbarber3211
@zachbarber3211 3 жыл бұрын
Now it's 5nm and soon to be 3nm
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 3 жыл бұрын
@@zachbarber3211 that's "hard x-ray" range. Crazy!
@Oxibase
@Oxibase Жыл бұрын
3.1 million transistors compared to the 3.8 BILLION on my AMD Ryzen 5 3600. That's nearly 1,226 times the transistors. It's truly amazing how this particular technology has developed over the last 30 years. Who knows how much more we will see in 30 additional years.
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 9 жыл бұрын
4:02 0.8 microns is 800 nm. 22 years later, Intel's Broadwell CPUs are 14 nm, which is 1/57th the size.
@onnirant
@onnirant 9 жыл бұрын
+DQSpider Yep, imagine having a passively cooled CPU with just that tiny heatsink.
@megabojan1993
@megabojan1993 9 жыл бұрын
+onnirant Today's CPU's using that tiny heatsink would caught up in flames in a matter of seconds :)
@misterkrad
@misterkrad 8 жыл бұрын
+RonJohn63 the cpu cache on the motherboard was very funny
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 8 жыл бұрын
misterkrad Funny? How so?
@misterkrad
@misterkrad 8 жыл бұрын
RonJohn63 funny as in old or archaic we used to buy the motherboard unpopulated of cache ram chips and had to put them in the sockets ourselves. then card slot came out and the cpu and cache memory was moved to that card slot. and now they put the cache directly in the cpu module itself
@Thx1138sober
@Thx1138sober 4 жыл бұрын
Don't Copy that Floppy!
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 3 жыл бұрын
the Pentium processor will make your computer faster boyo
@dsma2023
@dsma2023 4 жыл бұрын
$4000 to do a MS Paint style sunglasses job on a few cows. Nice.
@Nothuman76
@Nothuman76 Жыл бұрын
And me sitting here moving 4K UHD blu-rays around my network while compressing them into manageable sizes for long term storage for my Plex Server. With a Nvidia 3070 ti and 8 core 16 thread AMD processor boosting to 4.6 Ghz all core.
@RealHealthyGuidance
@RealHealthyGuidance 4 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend the Pentium 90. They're lightning fast, and we've got some in stock now. With an 800 megabyte hard drive, you'll be all set. Or we could you save you a few bucks and upgrade what you have. Once we swap out that motherboard and hard drive, um, you'll be better than new
@Feanor1169
@Feanor1169 Жыл бұрын
The Chad Pentium Gateway 2000 salesman vs. the Virgin Computer Chronicles host
@livesimplyandhumbly
@livesimplyandhumbly 8 жыл бұрын
Back than a Samsung Galaxy 5 could have taken both the client and server market with ease. A moment of silence for Solaris and Silicon Graphics and their respective CPUs. We had a monster Silicon Graphics mainframe on campus and rooms full of their workstations. At times working on a Windows PC or DEC terminal was infuriating. We found relief in the Silicon Graphics labs, still crashed at times, but so much faster and more reliable.
@livesimplyandhumbly
@livesimplyandhumbly 8 жыл бұрын
HYPER! DSG "Back then... A Samsung Galaxy 5 would had NOT exist... as guess what?... IT DID NOT EXIST!!!" No kidding, brain damage ? Or just lack of reading comprehension skills?
@unexpecteditem7919
@unexpecteditem7919 Жыл бұрын
"There's lots of computationally intensive applications going on simultaneously" _mspaint drawing circles on top of each other_ 90s were different srsly
@nrdesign1991
@nrdesign1991 7 жыл бұрын
Cute heatsinks. It's crazy what people put / have to put on their CPU's these days.
@RuruFIN
@RuruFIN 5 жыл бұрын
Custom watercooling loop here. :D
@lievenvv
@lievenvv 4 жыл бұрын
I had a cooler for a while that was so big I couldn't close the case
@matthewlund245
@matthewlund245 3 жыл бұрын
Me watching while thinking of getting a ryzen 5950x. Someday the 5950x will look as rediculous as these 486 and pentiums.
@sandakureva
@sandakureva 3 жыл бұрын
Me and my dad used to watch this every night.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 2 жыл бұрын
remember you need triflex architecture kiddo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Littlewing1977
@Littlewing1977 Жыл бұрын
$4000 in 1993 = around $8500 today(August 2023)
@tdrewman
@tdrewman 8 жыл бұрын
4000 dollars for a computer back then, things have changed. Macs still cost about the same.
@lookoutforchris
@lookoutforchris 8 жыл бұрын
tdrewman That's $4000 for a system with a newly released processor and very high specs, not just any old computer. The price is significantly cheaper now if you spec out a similar level of system (~$2,500). And Apple computers are significantly cheaper than their counterparts back in the day. A new MacBook now is $1299, which is $799 in 1994 dollars. A low spec Apple PowerBook from 1994 would have started at $2250 in 1994 dollars. So entry level laptops from Apple are almost 1/3rd of the cost that they used to be.
@lorumipsum1129
@lorumipsum1129 7 жыл бұрын
lookoutforchris the thing about apple is that they could sell that hardware slot cheaper then they currently are, Thiers nothing special about it other then that supercar, and USB c.
@Advection357
@Advection357 7 жыл бұрын
My pentium 100mhz with 16mb EDO ram cost 4250$ in 1995... was obsolete less than 2 years later when pentium II came out :/
@Bytional
@Bytional 7 жыл бұрын
Macs back then were best low budget choices for small business and family, oh how things changed. I remember my mom's company was all using MAC before, after they got government funding, all switching to new Pentium and windows 3.1/3.2.
@700gsteak
@700gsteak 7 жыл бұрын
+Advection357 That sounds like the PC I got in 1995 except I paid $5000 Australian dollars for it. Didnt have a nic or sound card or cdrom drive. I had to buy those separately and there was no usb. I think it had a crappy S3 Virge video card but it ran Mechwarrior 2, NFS2 SE, Duke Nukem 3D and Doom 2 flawlessly. and of course, Windows 95, Autocad12, Photoshop 5?, MSOffice. Was a great machine. Still works to this day!
@googleuser4720
@googleuser4720 Жыл бұрын
This guy looks younger in the Windows 98 video? This is 1993, is he REVERSE aging?
@Nothuman76
@Nothuman76 8 жыл бұрын
Jim Louderback!!!
@daehawk9585
@daehawk9585 6 жыл бұрын
Ya and he was saying no one needed a Pentium in their desktop. Slaps Jims forehead. Poor Jim never took gaming into account. Shame on Jim
@sminton85
@sminton85 11 ай бұрын
What I wouldnt give to have my old P133. Full tower,overclocked to 166, 2 HDDs, cd rom, cd rw, sound blaster, lemmy music tunes, star wars tie fighter, lost in time, STTNG A Final Unity, and the sound that beast made while running was so good.
@DanKirchner5150
@DanKirchner5150 7 жыл бұрын
hp actually has a tiny fan sitting atop the sink lol
@jgordon7719
@jgordon7719 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have bought a pentium until 1995/96. Just not worth it yet compared to the 486
@monkeyrobotsinc.9875
@monkeyrobotsinc.9875 4 жыл бұрын
6:18 full configured FIST EM. yep. only 2995
@bertnijhof5413
@bertnijhof5413 4 жыл бұрын
I still run a Pentium 4 HT with 1280 MB as backup server, but one from 2003. Even better I still have a working 486DX66 with 8 MB of RAM from 1993.
@SnakeVenom3000
@SnakeVenom3000 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine buying a movie disc for $80 and then hearing about DVD a few years later lol
@ILikeStyx
@ILikeStyx Жыл бұрын
Woah a FAN on the cooling fins?!? CRAZY!
@Petr75661
@Petr75661 8 жыл бұрын
And the FDIV bug was born! Redefining the PC -- and Mathematics As Well.
@CopperheadSysop
@CopperheadSysop 8 жыл бұрын
+jednoucelovy - I can't remember if that bug was only found in certain Pentium models or all early Pentium processors.
@misterkrad
@misterkrad 8 жыл бұрын
+jednoucelovy wikipedia says you can check for the bug by going to the calculator and typing 4195835 / 3145727 , if it doesn't say 1.33382044913624 then you have a bad chip!
@CopperheadSysop
@CopperheadSysop 8 жыл бұрын
misterkrad I wonder if certain emulators (i.e. DosBOX) will emulate the FDIV issue?
@misterkrad
@misterkrad 8 жыл бұрын
no, i don't think the fdiv bug would show up that way.
@St0rmcrash
@St0rmcrash 8 жыл бұрын
The FDIV bug was only in the Pentium Pro core, not the original pentium or later ones.
@euro_rfx4499
@euro_rfx4499 Жыл бұрын
Today we have seen: - Morph memes are now 30 years old - Saul Goodman Teaching us about cooling tech
@Zedek
@Zedek 4 жыл бұрын
Me, 5-year old in '95: "Dad, can we run this? It says "386" on the box". Dad: "Yes, we have a 486. Also, a PEN-TI-UM". EDIT: "WIth a mathematical Co-Processor". Me: "Woah!" Also, DooM II.
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 Жыл бұрын
486SX = no mathematical co-processor 486DX = with mathematical co-processor
@NS222
@NS222 Жыл бұрын
I still remember my first personal computer. A Pentium 100MHz ❤️. I then went to a Pentium II 400MHz, Pentium III 1Ghz. Oh those were the days 😛
@lanterndog
@lanterndog 11 жыл бұрын
Max Headroom: Gateway Sales Rep.
@mr.d5314
@mr.d5314 Жыл бұрын
had to scroll through 10 years of comments to find someone saying this.
@99tubalcain
@99tubalcain 4 жыл бұрын
The future today in your own hands. You too can have the power to display an image of Michael J. Fox morphing into Dan Quayle!
@joshpayne4015
@joshpayne4015 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, when I was growing up, it was a good weekend when I happened to catch an episode of Computer Chronicles on my local PBS station. As a teenage geek, this show was AMAZING.
@gblargg
@gblargg Жыл бұрын
2:30 1993: Well, x86 compatibility... 2003: Well, x86 compatibility... 2013: Well, x86 compatibility... 2023: Well, x86 compatibility...
@MattGreencompguy5
@MattGreencompguy5 8 жыл бұрын
Does anyone find it funny that an episode about IntelPentiums is sponsored by Intel?
@callofdutyblackops9
@callofdutyblackops9 8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Green No, it makes perfect sense.
@Zoomer30
@Zoomer30 4 жыл бұрын
Host: "What kind of customers are buying Pentiums" Intel Rep: "We are seeing big sales to people who only do integer math"
@HuggieBear39
@HuggieBear39 6 жыл бұрын
3:45 is why we now have to worry about Meltdown and Spectre.
@user-tx4kd3bj6x
@user-tx4kd3bj6x 2 жыл бұрын
The guy in the purple shirt must of had a grenade in his hand, ready to make his move after the show was over. 😄
@richardsequeirateixeira
@richardsequeirateixeira 4 жыл бұрын
"No longer an Intel world" except in 2020, the MacOS or Windows platforms are predominantly Intel.
@Meshamu
@Meshamu 4 жыл бұрын
We'll see about that.
@tetsujin_144
@tetsujin_144 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it's not all about MacOS and Windows any more. The most popular computers these days are phones and tablets, and those mostly use ARM.
@richardsequeirateixeira
@richardsequeirateixeira 2 жыл бұрын
I said this comment prior to Apple Silicon, while it maybe true that mobile phones have been popular, but the COVID-19 Pandemic brought back the desktop and laptop.
@HCkev
@HCkev 3 жыл бұрын
A Gateway PC for $4000? Times has changed 😂
@decimat777
@decimat777 8 жыл бұрын
@9:55 "actually has the cooling fins then it has a fan sitting on top of the cooling fins, a tiny little fan." imagine showing this guy at the current time of the video what all the shit we have to cool looks like now.
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