THE CONCEPT OF LOBOLA (Bride Price) in South Africa 🇿🇦 | Comparing with Nigeria 🇳🇬

[@Mibiafolabi]

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[@Bubbles_10]

In isiZulu lobola is normally 11 cows, but the 11th cow will be paid if the girl is still a virgin, and that 11th cow is paid specifically to the mother of the bride for raising a well kept, maintained and behaved daughter.

[@Getz_T]

All Black South african do practice Lobola not only the Nguni.

[@Mibiafolabi]

Thank you 🤎

[@dot510]

I guess she is not familiar with other tribes, so she respectfully does not want to speak on their behalf, especially when she has in accurate info about them. Sometimes people who live in Jo'burg think everybody is like them. There are no Batswana for example along the coast, mostly ngabeNguni.

[@zanellatutu6735]

It is not about how you feel it is about fulfilling cultural requirements. It is not about buying a person or enriching anybody. Also all that family contact helps to stregnthen family bonds as this is a merging of 2 families not just 2 people

[@dot510]

For us esiXhoseni deciding how many cows is a family matter not a custom. Some one as well off as Khaya Ngqula will not lobola the same as a security guard. He paid millions cause he is well off. And yes an educated virgin well mannered girl from a highly educated family will not be the same as from a financially struggling family even if she is also well mannered and a virgin unless she is also educated. EDUCATION USUALLY SETS THE STANDARD VERY HIGH since there are n't many virgins out there.

[@tomatopaste1936]

In my place in Nigeria you pay #25 naira that is like 1 American quarter 40 tuber of yams 3 50 liters palm oil 2 goats A box full of her clothes Pots and kitchen utensils for your bride Under wear for her

[@zanellatutu6735]

In our culture every child belongs to the community hence the negotiations are done by the elders who have watched you growing up

[@nelisiwemalinga2890]

People do marry in court without lobola, but families on both sides will not bless, honour or respect that marriage. May not even regard the couple as married if traditions were not observed.

[@siphomkizee5644]

The Reed dance is done yearly especially in KwaZulu and Swaziland

[@Mibiafolabi]

I see! Thank you for your comment

[@kgallykgalallo7582]

It is called magadi and or Mahadi within the sotho tribe which is mainly categorized in three groups 1. The sotho speaking ppl(ba sotho) mainly in the free state province 2. The the Tswana speaking ppl (Batswana) mainly found in the north west and northern cape province - as well as in gauteng and western part of limpopo 3. The pedi /northern sotho speaking ppl (Bapedi) mainly found in limpopo province as well as in some parts of Gauteng province So samething goes, the writing of a letter, negotiation process, cows and etc

[@nomfunekonosilela3895]

Parents always encourage their children to behave very well but they don't tell you it's so your lobola can be expensive coz no parent discusses lobola with their child. The concept of lobola is more about bringing families together and the groom's family appreciating the bride's family.

[@shaunsebata4798]

In Sotho culture it is not as expensive. The amount that will be needed for the bride's family to throw the celebrations will play a huge role in the amount that will be needed. But as far as I know around R30 000 is an expected range for a normal family. And it is never referred to as "buying". A family is only allowed to use that word when they want to make enemies and break their son's heart.

[@phylliskumalo3787]

Uncles only negotiate the lobola but the money doesn`t belong to them it goes to the bride parent

[@Mibiafolabi]

I see! Thank you 🤎

[@YLMSTUNNA]

😂 😂 😂 I didn't know this! Now that I know it I don't think I wanna have a niece no more. Thought this was one get rich quick scheme I needed to jump on.

[@siphomkizee5644]

In SA e.g Doctor Khumalo praise surname is Mntungea... And there's a meaning is how you greet the family

[@siphomkizee5644]

In many families whether you are a foreigner a lobola has to be paid to introduce the bride and bridegroom to ancestors

[@Mibiafolabi]

I see! I have heard about the ‘introduction to ancestors’ as well

[@BlackandGold-x6n]

I don't like how this South African chick is explaining things. It's not 'how much the daughter costs'!🙄 The parents are not selling the daughter and amaLobolo have less to do with the bride and groom and more to do with joining both families. Mibi I advise you do more research and not only take this chick's word for it because she's not educating you fully - she's leaving gaps and is explaining in an unflattering way. Annoying really.

[@toby5017]

Nice. Very informative.

[@Mibiafolabi]

Thank you 🤎

[@nkosanadhlamini44]

The sad thing is the average salary of a black man in South Africa is around R4000 so that means most of us South African men are unable to get married.

[@virtuengq]

Make side hustle, be a man and work, have multiple streams of income. No excuse!!!

[@dot510]

Yes, work out something. cause if you don't lobola you will never see me as a wife. Some families are considerate of your job, but you must take the first necessary steps so you can convince them that you are a hardworking man who is struggling with circumstances.

[@mayowaedgar]

I wish the lobola can be made more affordable in line with the reality of salary averages.

[@dot510]

@Mayowa if you only depend on your salary you won't. There is a lot of other opportunities now, yes you might loose money while trying but it's worth it.

[@syandamthembu5182]

Paying bride price is not a cultural thing but its was made culture in a long run became a business, the person who invented Lobola did that on purpose to force black people to work in fact its was a plan...

[@TIJESUNIOLAYIWOLA]

Thanks for the sweet 😘 enlightenment ma . Nels welldone good 👍 job. Will love to have you back you're fun to be with ma

[@Mibiafolabi]

Thank you

[@bonginkosishazi2592]

I enjoyed watching the video, keep it up Mibi 👍

[@Mibiafolabi]

Thank you so much 🤎

[@cookingwithphindile4525]

I'm a tsonga girl and the whole procedure is the same. 🥰

[@Mibiafolabi]

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[@siphomkizee5644]

Woow Beauty Sipho from Tshwane

[@tozamilefunani]

The most expensive lobola I heard was between Misizulu’s parents; Zulu kingdom paid for more than 400 cattle 🐄 to the Swazi royal family….

[@dot510]

The royal standard is not the same as a man in the street. it's too high cause they are well off. If they are marrying a commoner they usually go for CEO and businessmen and they lobola with millions.

[@mlungisinkanunu8596]

I paid 10 cows 13 years ago and never ffinish required lobola. I'm still with my wife. Pedis also asked too much

[@Mibiafolabi]

😂😂😂 make sure you finish paying

[@yolisamrso9827]

How much was each cow?

[@bonganibophela2819]

Why do you refer to cattle as cow, a cow is a female cattle a male is a bull and an ox but collectively is cattle. when you say the cow is referring to human beings as women.

[@dot510]

@Bongani. we get the point. Who cares about English standards? As long as he can speak his language properly, it's hard work learning another language.

[@siphomkizee5644]

No no lobola is not selling or buying a women

[@Mibiafolabi]

We stated that!

[@tozamilefunani]

Originally it’s assumed the boy and girl don’t know each other; it’s just elders of the groom’s family asking for the relationship with the bride’s family. Unmarried youth are not allowed to be in the relationship…

[@nelisiwemalinga2890]

If you married by civil law without Lobola and things don't go well in your marriage or life , you will be mocked and blamed. It's not worth it. Just pay lobola

[@Capetonian1965]

Never.your marriage is legal in court and not the concern of the parents greed as marriage is what you make it with or without their blessings.so go get married to your beloved and be happy without your parents and family breathing down your neck for greedy agendas cause you have to life your life and marriage not them with their old traditions and cursed

[@mayowaedgar]

WOW, quite educative. While I don't want to demean the lobola concept, 10 cows minimum is quite pricey and something to think over. I imagine that a man who suffers very much to pay a high lobola for a wife will be more inclined to being hard on the woman, than if he married her within modest and convenient means.

[@winniemlondo6532]

I don't know about if u are educated the lobolo is rising, all I know is that whether u are aducated or not the lobolo is the same 11 cows. I loved your video 💞💞

[@dot510]

For us esiXhoseni deciding how many cows is a family matter not a custom. Some one as well off as Khaya Ngqula will not lobola the same as a security guard. He paid millions cause he is well off. And yes an educated virgin well mannered girl from a highly educated family will not be the same as from a financially struggling family even if she is also well mannered and a virgin unless she is also educated. EDUCATION USUALLY SETS THE STANDARD VERY HIGH since there are n't many virgins out there.

[@daniellekempdanielle3062]

What happens to girls who were raped? It's not their fault. And don't the women wish that the men's virginity was tested too? How often do families take advantage of men who are doing their best already?

[@asandasukazi7198]

I enjoyed the video.😂

[@Mibiafolabi]

Thank you 🤎

[@siphomkizee5644]

Yhooi in SA you won't and is serious to pay lobola

[@Tinker8531]

Now we know why there is so much stock theft. 🤣🤣🤣

[@veezibane9377]

Love Nelly♥️

[@Mibiafolabi]

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[@vuvufuzzy2594]

Lobola is a verb, Lobolo is a noun

[@dot510]

I guess they are not about the language cause Lobola is a noun ngesiXhosa, so if they are using Xhosa ba right.

[@vuvufuzzy2594]

@@dot510 lobola is an act of paying ilobolo

[@dot510]

@Vuvu, Yes, ngesiZulu. What I'm saying is they are right ngesiXhosa, it's easy to confuse isiNguni when words are almost the same. Mostly when the word comes up in an English context it's applied the same way they are applying. I guess it depends on whether the schooler was umXhosa na or umZulu.

[@mtshalim]

The clan names

[@Mibiafolabi]

What does that mean?

[@mtshalim]

@@Mibiafolabi we have Surnames but we also have clan names.. my surname is Mtshali but clan name is Hlabangane or Khondlo. It depends on the Surname. Only South Africans have clan names in Africa

[@xila-man8249]

@@mtshalim Clan names don't depend on a Surname Chief, They depend on which Clan you're from... And the clan names are just names of your forefathers(Ancestors) before Colonial powers came... At least that's what a know about clan names from the Zulu and Xhosa Tribes...

[@alicegauteng2358]

@@Mibiafolabi Surname/lastname is passed down from the father side. CLAN NAME is commemorative in nature, with names being shared among a group of people ( Unlike surnames, they may not be related by blood). They will have names and cultural things like language shared among themselves. Its more of a culture identification. For example, I have a surname, but as a Mosotho I also have a clan name which is MOSIA, and we belong to the Cat clan. During praise ceremonies you will mention several times my association with cats. Some people are: Bataung- Lions Batloung - Elephants Bakwena - Crocodiles Is possible that many many many years ago people were living in groups and something will happen with one particular animal and then after that they identified themselves with it. (This is just my hypothesis , I am not a historian I am just guessing)

[@summorefuneka8481]

Lobola it's strictly 11 cows 🐄