The Controversial History of Alien Abductions

[@KazRowe]

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[@MarshalMarrs-eu9yh]

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[@CAP198462]

Kudos for not mentioning, him. I believe with the amount of research you’ve done you came across a certain name a few times. Not going to repeat his name, but he’s a popular source for those who believe the aliens and US government stuff. Here’s a little hint, Laser.

[@misamokuzelpizu]

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[@labinsky]

super disappointing to see you working with an israeli sponsor which has been included on bds lists 10 months into the ongoing genocide in gaza

[@missmangopudding]

My grandma would sometimes pretend that an alien "overtook" her body to freak me out, I'd be like "Grandma?" And she'd be like, "I'm not grandma. I'm an alien named zuzu inside of your grandma's body" She was just doing it because she thought it was funny, but it scared the absolute poop out of me. 😂

Your grandma was an icon, however I'm sorry for this trauma 😅

[@apeiceofgarbage9848]

The absolute poop out of me is the perfect choice of words while talking about your grandma

[@javieraaravena]

It surprises me how much adults forget about being children, like of course that terrified you, i would've cried 😂

[@ayylmao8562]

Ok

[@gnostic268]

Now I'm going to dress up as an alien for Halloween because my little grandson I obsessed with aliens and hopefully I will impress him until he finds out it's just me 👽

[@breadpilled2587]

My great grandmother had a terrifying UFO experience. Her family lived and worked at this remote ranch in new mexico. They were very rural and didnt even own a car. She grew up without electricity or plumbing and left school in the 3rd grade. She was going to the outhouse in the middle of the night by herself, by lantern light. It was quite far from where they were living on the ranch. A huge, loud craft descended on her, air blowing around her furiously and a bright, blinding light coming down on her. She heard loud, illegible mechanical voices in a language she didnt understand. She only spoke spanish. She ran home immediately, terrified. She was sure that she was going to be abducted or killed. It was a helicopter.

[@cherylcampbell9369]

That would be scary, though, for sure.

[@julietfischer5056]

Did they ever go to town? Look at magazines or newspapers? A helicopter is odd enough from the safety of a photograph or newsreel. Suddenly appearing at midnight, lights blazing, motor roaring, blades chopping the air? I defy anybody (aside from helicopter pilots and mechanics) to not be scared out of their wits. I wonder what the crew was doing out there? Searching for something or someone and saw a kid out alone, who they warned over a bullhorn or other speaker. Just what she needed (not).

[@TwizzleTown]

This comment was excellent storytelling 😂😂😂👏🏼

[@autumn7157]

My dad tells stories of sitting in his backyard in California, watching drag racing in the valley below. When the cops would fly over with their helicopters, they would shine their spotlight on the folks watching. My dad remembers how fucking wild it was and how as a kid, even knowing it was a helicopter, it was terrifying to suddenly be blinded in daylight levels of brightness on a single circle of their yard. He said he understood how people would mistake that kind of experience as an alien abduction.

[@zoes_story]

Oh my god the last bit 😂 the delivery of this was top notch

[@RosieYogi40]

My husband has a friend that has recently claimed to have had contact with aliens. I think he was up for days drinking, doing A LOT of drugs and was hallucinating but whatever. Allegedly he even paid to have a lie detector test done but I’m pretty sure he just found a shady Craigslist ad and was just told what he wanted to hear. Gotta love random Midwestern alien tales.

[@AmonTheWitch]

lie detector tests aren't accurate to begin with

[@elizabethlovett4318]

There's a reason lie detector tests aren't used as evidence against anyone for a reason.

[@Mar_Selcouth]

Also, even in the case we believe the prove as 100% accurate, the lie detector will find if he thinks he says the true or lies. I won't matter the truth about what happened, just what he think.

[@RosieYogi40]

@@Mar_Selcouth I told my hubs that even if it turns out he went somewhere legit for a polygraph that since he’s speaking ‘his truth’ he believes it’s true so will therefore ‘pass’.

[@terryt9833]

​@Mar_Selcouth even then they're extremely dubious

[@FleursetRebellion]

In addition to the things you said, I was always under the impression that Alien Abduction stories were a kind of modern development of medieval Fae Abduction stories. Like reading Sir Orfeo and the Mabinogi and hearing Changeling stories growing up, the presence of otherworld journeys with the exact same "missing time" phenomenon and weird physical markings always reminded me of aliens. Obvi there's more going into these stories than just that tho, if there even is a connection.

[@lucas10armond]

That is what Jacques Vallée say in Passport to Magonia

[@ruthspanos2532]

And Carl Sagan wrote about how they resembled interactions with demons.

[@blindalleycomics6351]

I agree, I think alien mythologies are a kind of modern folklore, where the line between objective reality and subjective experience melts. Proving or disproving such encounters scientifically isn't really the point - the cultural framework of belief has a life of its own.

[@christabelle__]

I was thinking the same thing. As we modernize, so too have our abduction stories - instead of magical fairies which are totally a silly thing to believe in and only ancient people believed in those (/s)...we have people believing in little people from the sky stealing you away and molesting you, instead.

[@lisafish1449]

Encounters with the Fae=Encounters with Angels/Demons=Encounters with Aliens.

[@milamila1123]

This is one of those rare yt channels where every video is top-notch. Edit: Your cat and I share a name.

[@Gloomdrake]

The only rational conclusion is that you are the cat

[@barrytaylor1642]

here here!

[@justkiddin84]

@@GloomdrakeNow why do you think they are in MAGA?😂

[@justkiddin84]

The cat was trying to tell her that the alien was in the room!😹

[@Gloomdrake]

@@justkiddin84 what?

[@basementdwellercosplay]

Whenever someone points to historical paintings as evidence for something, i love to pull out the snail fighting a knight or a cat steal a male member cause sir what is that explaining extremely literally

[@wolvie1618]

What are you talking about, those are totally real things, theres a warrant out for my cat's arrest for stealing 37 dicks.

[@TheLegPumpkin]

Don't mock Catstration victims! There are tens of us around the world who had our genitals stolen by felines!

[@emmarichardson965]

Attack rabbits, penis trees. I love medieval artwork and doodles. 😂

[@zippolighter4903]

Sure

[@MegCazalet]

17:26 Clarification: “A Trip to The Moon” (“Le Voyage Dans La Lune”) was *inspired* by two Jules Verne books but was *made* by Georges Méliès. He wrote, produced, directed, and even starred in it!

Yes, it was Verne's novel adaptation. But as a film scholar I applaud your clarification 👏

[@LordCivers]

Was about to comment just that, thanks !

[@mcgoo721]

I'm finna watch that bitch next. Last year or so I watched Metropolis and it blew me away. I didn't know old films were so cool.

[@surroudsound]

@@LordCivers Me too

[@DulceN]

Correct! 👍

[@Annie_Annie__]

When I was a young child in the late 80s/ early 90s my mother was obsessed with aliens and alien abduction stories. She was _convinced_ that she had been abducted as a teenager, but she had never mentioned it before she started watching those shows and reading books about aliens. She watched those shows so often that I developed a deep fear of aliens. There was a field behind our house and my bed was directly under a window facing it. Every night I was terrified that aliens were going to land in that field and come to my window. I had to lay with my back to the window so I didn’t accidentally look at it and see the alien faces. My mother seemed to think it was an honor to be abducted, but I was utterly terrified of it. It was so very real to me and it didn’t stop feeling real until I went to live with my dad when I was 13-ish.

[@wolvie1618]

I know how you feel. My half brother used to do drugs and as a result he'd claim to be a popular choice for alien abductions. Made me paranoid as a kid, thinking that since I was related to him, maybe they'd come from me too. I ended up having nightmares about abductions for years. But tbh if aliens were real and they tried to take me, I would absolutely put up the best fight I could, no touchie.

[@ju-shi-san]

I had much the same fear growing up, along with not wanting to flip over in bed in case there were aliens. I still can't do alien stories to this day. 😓

[@digitalbear1217]

I used to lay completely under my covers, as still as possible, so that if an alien craft were scanning around the vicinity of my house for someone to abduct, I would just look like a mound of plant life. I guess it must have worked

[@noctap0d]

This sounds similar to the plot of Taken 😅 But I think that show based most of its plot in accounts of real people so it makes sense. And yeah, I had the same issue with my grandma. I'm scared of aliens to this day (I'm 34) and my grandma just wanted to be abducted again .-.

[@noctap0d]

(Btw, it's kinda reassuring to find so many people who's scared of aliens 😂 )

[@nentendomofo]

I can't believe I never realized time lapses can occur from sleep deprivation. You just solved a decades-long personal mystery lol. I had terrible sleep as a child, and I would fall asleep in class most days. One day at school (I think I was 8yo) I felt like I had just woken up in 5th period. It was like everything that happened after 8am was just a void in my memory. For a long time I was worried something traumatic happened to me or something.

[@mackereltabbie]

Yeah your brain can just stop storing information properly so it's like you were sleep walking

[@LP-tf7cy]

I've had a couple family members inform me of conversations I have right after coming home from a long trip but before I get some food and rest. They have to tell me because I genuinely have no idea what I said or that it happened at all, my brain was in the process of shutting down after a tiring experience.

[@j_fenrir]

the tiktok community thing ROCKED ME because one caption mentioned "humans are space orcs" which was a hugely popular trope of tumblr fiction in the late 2010s. Theyre actually really fun stories that developed an entire canon, with some reoccurring characters and concepts. I'm guessing the tiktok comm is a warped extension of it? because absolutely no one thought it was real and the fucking 'indomitable human spirit' was not a thing lmao

[@bikenesmith]

“the indomitable human spirit”thing is/started out as a meme, i think most prominently on either reddit or instagram meme pages? its definitely a descendant of those tumblr posts! i think people are taking those tiktoks way too seriously/sensationalizing them, it’s just silly memey make-belief

[@franciszekdo]

Tumblr has some real banger short stories

[@Sleve-McDichael]

I was just thinking of that Tumblr trope last night. 😂 The whole "we have to go unconscious for at least 5 hours in every 24 or else we go insane and die"

[@peterniles8984]

I think a lot of this new round of "humans as the baddest, strongest MFs in Space" has a lot more to do with media like Helldivers and Warhammer 40k gaining a lot of popularity. Both frame a critique of nationalism/fascism on a human race unified in constant war with aliens; while the senseless violence is meant to be horrific, the idea of humanity unified as a species is an easy thing for people who want to have pride in their social order to latch onto when they're too alienated by modern politics to lean into Nationalism

[@apeiceofgarbage9848]

​@@peterniles8984damn that was a good fuckin comment

[@theily1724]

Alien Abductions: When your sleep paralysis demons look like the aliens in that movie you watched a few hours before.

[@Sebastian_Niedermeier]

My last sleep paralysis demon looked like a creature from a horror comic I read as a kid. I mean this literally including the noticeable and somewhat lackluster inking. This was not a scary experience, it was more kind of: "Really that guy of all things? You gotta be kidding me. I guess it's sleep paralysis time again - f***k. Hope I'll be able to move again soon or fall asleep properly... ".

[@lucas10armond]

Babe, so many cases here in Brasil where de abductee is taken and them droped in another state, a trip only a plane could do

[@garfieldiloveyou]

My sleep paralysis demon is literally the guy that “everyone sees in there dreams.” Saw that picture as a kid and it freaked me put so bad, I thought he was outside my bedroom door at night and if i left to go to the bathroom, he would get me. I have since been diagnosed with ocd.

[@joelhungerford8388]

Ahh the person who thinks they're better than everyone else, but probably cannot tell us what a women is

[@Sebastian_Niedermeier]

@@joelhungerford8388 What a weird comment

[@pixelspider6454]

this made me realize that we desperately need a milo rossi / kaz rowe collab

[@GabeNode21]

Yes! That would be fantastic!

[@chamomileteal4705]

Yes please would love to see that

[@danielmclellan1522]

Oh, heck yeah!

[@maryeckel9682]

YES

[@oliverwisniewski]

That'd be awesome

[@merrillsunderland8662]

Kaz: A lot of these modern behaviors we see on social media are actually pretty old and they have *historical context* The internet: *shocked pikachu face*

[@WhiffleWaffles]

It's not something often thought or known about, but it's really fun and interesting to learn about! Humanity may have changed in some ways, but we're still doing very human things.

[@warpdrivefueledbyinsomnia8165]

You just know some future snake oil sales types are going to claim that we all worshipped an electric yellow mouse god because of this very meme.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@warpdrivefueledbyinsomnia8165 Why would they think it was a god and why would they think we worshiped it just because of that meme?

[@mikey-wl2jt]

@@MatthewTheWanderer ancient egyptians didn't worship cats...but a lot of people assumed they did bc of the depictions. when there's nothing left of our civilization but a single excavated game store, they'll make interesting assumptions.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@mikey-wl2jt It's HIGHLY unlikely that will be the last thing to survive!

[@11orana]

As a young child in the 1960's, I used my grandfather's merchant marine telescope to watch Telstar passing over our town. I thought saw other vehicles in the sky on other days when the satellite was orbiting elsewhere. My grandmother, told me naah, that if aliens had any sense, they'd avoid earthlings, but that alien hybrids were what we historically called changelings.

[@kelseycain3469]

I was thinking "ya know they kinda fill the slot for us that the fae used to" ❤

[@valentinacastillo4491]

Tha Tism

[@bethduclaux7615]

Whenever I have an unexplained wound or pain I always exclaim, “Incompetent aliens! Aren’t they supposed to remove all evidence of their experimentation!?”

[@apeiceofgarbage9848]

Dude thats halarious im stealing that

[@wolvie1618]

Ah you must be the one they train students on. They're trying their best, it's hard.

[@wolvie1618]

Ah you must be the one they train students on. They're trying their best, it's hard.

[@julietfischer5056]

I worked in construction, and now as building maintenance. There were days I would find a bruise, cut, or scrape and not remember how they happened. Not as often now, but I still do.

[@adaddinsane]

I will say this from now on.

[@darkdeifan]

fun video! My dad told me that his brother and him where fishing one night when they were young and suddenly see an alien ship rising, they ran away as the ship chased them. They ran all the way from the river to their home and arrived making a ruckus. My grandma chastise them as the alien ship chasing them was, well, the moon. They were quite drunk.

[@mirroredhour]

I am pretending to be shocked that racism is present in alien conspiracies and stories.

[@wolvie1618]

Reminds me of the time I was watching another video about the Hill abduction and some nutter was having a racist rant about Betty and Barney. When I called him out for being racist, he got mad at me lmao

[@jessicaclakley3691]

I always have to remind my mom (who is an avid fan and believer of the alien aliens baloney) that many of these theories erase the actual histories of often oppressed peoples and refocus on Eurocentric understandings. People have always been ingenious and industrious, regardless of time and restrictions on resources, and don’t need aliens to accomplish unimaginably difficult and precise tasks.

[@StumbIingforward]

I think it’s incredibly messed up to discount their experience because of the racism they faced. I’m all for looking for logical conclusions, but racism existing and them knowing of alien movies doesn’t cut it for me. It doesn’t explain what happened to them according to them.

[@Ayeee56789]

​@@wolvie1618😅

[@baconsarny-geddon8298]

As someone who's been interested in the Betty/Barney Hill story for many years (and who DOESN'T believe in aliens), this video really bends over backwards, to insert racism IN to the Betty/Barney Hill account, for a 2024 audience. Not to say the Hills wouldn't have experienced racism, as an inter-racial couple in the 60s. Or even that racial anxieties didn't have SOME influence on some of the (several, changing, mutually-contradictory) accounts given by the Hills. But to act like racial issues were anything close to the MAIN factor, makes no sense. The video even admits that (white) Betty Hill had much less emphasis on anything that could be interpreted as "racial themes", than (black) Barney. Which of course makes sense- of course the black man in the rural 60s is going to be more concerned with racism... ...the problem is, that Barney was very much a passenger, on the whole "alien abduction' narrative, with Betty completely in the driver's seat. Initially, it was ONLY Betty who reported anything happening at all (which she initially reported as "a dream" which she just found oddly disturbing, up til her first hypnosis session), with Barney only ever first mentioning that HE had any memory of anything strange, months into the investigation, when he had HIS first hypnosis session, after he'd ALREADY heard his wife tellling this "alien abduction" story, over and over, for months. So, the "racial anxiety" idea, as being the underlying cause (or ANY significant causal factor), just doesn't make sense. A WHITE woman has so much racial anxiety, that she creates this kooky "alien abduction" story... but a super-positive story, which she consistently frames (even after wildly revising her story, three different times over the years) in a positive light, with basically NO aspects of her story,which could be framed as being about racism? But then, months later, after consistently saying for months "I don't remember anything weird. We just drove home, then Betty started talking about having a weird dream, a few days later", the black husband agrees to hypnosis (a method which is KNOWN to encourage"confabulation"; Basically, the patient involuntaryily making up a story, kinda like an induced dream)... And now Barney DOES produce all the stuff, which (arguably) reflects his anxiety about racism; Aliens wearing "police-like" uniforms, etc. So, it DOES make sense to say "Barney confabulated under hypnotism, and the fantasy he created, was a reflection of his anxiety about racism"... but Barney is basically a footnote in the "Hill abduction" story; Betty was the one who (1). First reported a "strange dream"- The seed which the whole "alien abduction" grew from. (2). Instigated seeing an investigator. (3) First came up with the "alien abduction" story, under hypnosis. (4) Accepted that story as literal truth, and became kinda obsessive, going back to the investigator/hypnotist many times to "dig deeper". (5) came up with the most famous elements of the story; The "Star Map" that believers in aliens claim as "proof", The "Laparoscopy"/"alien impreg" story, which arguably started the entire "Alien breeding program" meme. (6) she significantly CHANGED her story, several times over the years; First she reported normal humans. Then she gave on oddball description of aliens "with big noses, like Jimmy Durante", then eventually, in the 90s, at the height of the "alien abduction" craze, she changed her description, to the typical "Greys", who were dominating the UFO scene, at that time. And (7) she made this story her entire life, constantly touring UFO conferences for speaking gigs, and also claiming the aliens made her psychic, and building up a literal cult, surrounding herself. Barney was a part of NONE of this. So "Betty and Barney Hill abduction" is really 99% "The BETTY Hill abduction". Barney had no interest in the start, and was long dead by the time it got most famous. And ALL the "racial anxiety" talking-points come from the one, single hypnosis session Barney begrudgingly did, in contrast to the dozens of hypnosis sessions Betty did. So, did Barney Hill have anxiety about being a black man in an inter-racial marriage, in the 60's? Sure. And did that anxiety influence the fantasy he unknowingly confabulated under hypnosis? Almost certainly. But can that somehow "explain" the "alien abduction" narrative that Barney had no part in starting? No- That's not even A POSSIBILITY, because of the timeline of how the story developed. This whole scenario would be 99% identical, REGARDLESS of whether Barney's hypnosis session added those few minor, racially-influenced points, into the narrative. The whole story is FAR more about Betty Hill's pre-existing fascination with aliens and UFOs, her interest in "New Age" topics/culture, her belief that's she psychic, and super-duper special, and the fact that it turned out that Betty LOVED the spotlight, and also loved all the mysticism of the New Age and UFO scenes, than it is about the peripheral detail, that Barney got anxious about his race, when he was hypnotised. Remove Barney's racial anxiety, and some minor details of the story change slightly. But remove Betty's UFO,/New Age fixation, and the story never even starts in the first place... And certainly doesn't get aggressively promoted (by Betty) for half a century... This video only plays up the racial angle, because she's trying to do the "Breadtube" thing. She glosses over HUGE aspects of the story, like the fact that Betty completely changed her story multiple times... Or that, for the first few months of the investigation, Barney consistently reported NOT seeing anything weird that night... Or that even Betty only ever reported "a weird dream that's been bothering me", until her first hypnosis session (and hypnosis is KNOWN to potentially make you fantasize)... And instead fixated on a few minor details, reported by the SECONDARY """witness"""- But because those details tie in to a convenient political narrative, let's just make THEM the entire focus...

[@bagpussguitars6004]

25:28 Kaz: A whopping 25- (brain): That's not alot Kaz: -hundred % (brain): Oh damnn

[@thenewniccage2283]

Found this via twitter, and as a medievalist I really enjoyed the treatment of the Chronica Maiora! I've expected to see someone interpreting it as an alien abduction account ever since I read it. This is a really interesting and well-argued video but there are a couple of inaccuracies in the treatment of medieval material that I can't help but nitpick: 1) The story of the Nephilim as described here was not really a significant part of medieval European Christian tradition. The elaborated version of the story of the Nephilim is taken from the Book of Enoch, which had been excluded from the Christian canon long before the medieval period everywhere outside the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church. While there are a few references to them elsewhere in the Bible (the most important of which, in Genesis, was mistranslated as 'giants'), nephilim were not heavily discussed or depicted outside the Tewahedo Church until the Book of Enoch drew the attention of critical Biblical scholars in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. If anything I suspect modern conspiracy theorists have spent more time thinking about Nephilim than medieval or early modern Christians did. 2) The idea that demons are regularly depicted 'descending upon Christendom' in a manner analogous to an alien invasion isn't really accurate: the images you use to illustrate this section all appear to be depictions of Hell and I don't think they're comparable to alien invasions. Even apocalyptic imagery featuring demons is far more based around imagery of judgement and the damned being cast into hell, rather than demons 'invading' the temporal world. Again, really glad to see a video treating these really strange and obscure bits of medieval history properly within their cultural and artistic contexts. I look forward to watching more of your videos.

[@zappababe8577]

30:18 The *current* understanding regarding how such an underground structure should be ventilated might need all those pipes, vents and inlets, but that's without taking into consideration the far more advanced tech that the aliens can produce. They have presumably been zipping about the galaxy for years in sealed spacecraft, I imagine they know a thing or two about keeping the air sweet in enclosed environments.

[@syd6964]

Ive always found it so interesting how much horror and sci fi represents a society's fears and desires of the time. Its like a little metaphorical time capsule of a specific time (ESPECIALLY THE COLD WAR)

[@StoryBird2]

Invasion of the Body Snatchers sure represents that

[@julietfischer5056]

Detective fiction, and other genres do the same to varying degrees.

[@timtheskeptic1147]

It also relates to our knowledge/ignorance. For a moment it was Martians. Then we found no life on Mars and tales of Martians tapered off. Ah! But, then they were from Venus! Then we found no signs of life on Venus and the Venusians became old hat. See a pattern?

[@JamesElise]

I’m home sick from work and a Kaz video is EXACTLY what I needed

[@johnsmith8906]

Hope you feel better soo.

[@JamesElise]

@@johnsmith8906 thank you💕 I’m sure I’ll be right as rain tomorrow

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

Who knew Kaz Rowe and aliens, of all topics, go so well together? This was fascinating to watch! EDIT: AND THIS VIDEO HAS A CHATTY CAT SHOW UP! IT'S PERFECT! THIS IS LITERALLY THE MOST PERFECT VIDEO EVER!

[@Bluebelle51]

I taught a program to 2nd and 3rd grade kids called "Young Astronauts". My son was also in the program so when we found out that we would be able to see the space shuttle fly by, we went out to watch for it. We saw something, directly over our heads, but going in the wrong direction, then it made a sharp right turn. I know that the shuttle couldn't have done that. My son said, "Mom, did we just see a UFO?" I said, "I don't know what we saw, so it's unidentified to us, but I got a feeling it's not little green men" I still don't know what it was, so in the very technical sense, I have seen a UFO I still do not think it was aliens

[@donaldfinch1411]

" 'To Serve Man'...ITS A COOKBOOK!!"

[@isailoviqisailoviq1430]

i was waiting for thiss

[@OrinSorinson]

on the soundtrack of Cattle Decapitation's album of the same name.

[@splendidcolors]

I have a friend who lives in the boonies between San Diego and the Anza-Borrego Desert. She's had a couple of experiences that some people might have interpreted as a UFO. On a foggy night, a blurry light-colored shape suddenly appeared, hovering back and forth over the road in front of her car. It was difficult to estimate distance and therefore size. When she drove out of the fogbank, the shape was obviously a light-colored barn owl. She didn't know if it was staying over the road because its eyes were dazzled by her headlights, or if the car had flushed potential prey out of their night-time shelter and it was hunting. (90% of the red-tailed hawks I see are perched on streetlights by highways.) Another night, there was a light that appeared to be gliding over the hills above her ranch. As it approached, the light split in two: the headlights of a truck on the fire road on the ridge.

[@Gloomdrake]

God, it’s always barn owls, isn’t it?

[@SeekSomethingMore]

Mike Clelland writes about owls and their links with paranormal events.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@Gloomdrake- Most of us only know owls from television, movies, and photos. In life, they often aren't so prettily framed or photographed. Heck, have you seen the photos and videos of known animals in unusual (to us) positions? The picture of the baby owl walking on the ground, or that goat walking on its hind legs in a pen? Can you imagine how that would look if you were driving along in the dusk and your headlights flashed across them? All you'd have was a quick glance and by the time you got home, you saw a goatman or a mysterious elf.

[@timtheskeptic1147]

Yeah, a load of military aviation and missile test bases are also in that area.

[@portablegoose]

I feel compelled to mention that the tiktoks at about 45:55 minutes in are, for the most part, jokes. A while ago on tiktok there was a trend that was half 'hopecore' (as I've heard it called) and half satire about the 'indomitable human spirit'. It sort of played on the optimistic cliche in media of people being able to overcome everything (think 'the power of friendship' sort of trope) while also partially affirming it. It was an interesting mix of satire and earnest optimism. Of course there will always be people who take these things really seriously, but the tiktok on the right at 45:55 appears to be in a pretty clear meme format and uses Exit Music For A Film (which is popularly used in tiktoks that satirise melodramatic scenarios and current or historical events. I've seen it used with an extra layer of irony where the situation being joked about isn't even dramatic and is contrasted with the music for comedy, i.e. 'me watching my cat about to push a plate off the counter' or something like that), so I don't think it's meant to be taken all that literally. Anyway this video was really cool :^) I love all your supernaturally alligned videos, they're always my favourites

[@madi7178]

“Indomitable human spirit” originates from tumblr and the “space orcs” community contributed prompt saga

[@kazeem6419]

Damn, Barney's tape sends shivers down my spine every time I hear it

[@berrywitch8930]

I used to be friends with a girl that believed that she was a pleiadian starseed. In her true form she was blue she started following Teal Swan and stopped talking to me

[@MegCazalet]

That’s kinda eerie because (30 years ago, when I was in 6th grade) my best friend TEAL insisted she was an alien. I’d have to check my 6th grade journal to see what details she gave. I think she thought was was some version of an Indigo Child.

[@asourpo1yphony]

Teal is Hella problematic

[@berrywitch8930]

@@asourpo1yphony agreed. They are unhinged in those fb groups. The programing is working

[@kristopherguilbault5428]

Is the "Friend" in questions name Melinda? Lol 😂😅

[@berrywitch8930]

@@kristopherguilbault5428 nope

[@thiqueness]

0:08 already screaming at just under the 10 second mark of this video because I've lived in New Hampshire my whole life and I'm very familiar with the route on which they were "abducted." I'm tuned IN.

[@megb9700]

My brother and I spend our 70’s childhood lying in the back of the station wagon in NH looking for aliens/UFOs in the night sky. He’s still looking, but he randomly wears tinfoil hats, so maybe they didn’t see him? Yet…

[@happyzombiikitti]

Perhaps we shall form a NH paranormal investigation group? I'm by contocook!

[@riversong3106]

Literally me, living 5 minutes away from where the story starts not knowing this happened at all 😮

[@TheAntiSanta]

For some reason aliens have decided that they need to come to my house and challenge me to fist fights. I don't get it. Their heads are huge, their arms are noodles, they're never going to beat me, and yet every week, here they are.

[@brushyb1190]

Not to be a pedant but you mention the 90s and 2000s taking alien concepts more seriously and cite X-Files and Alien, but Alien came out in 1979. Very ahead of it's time, for sure. (And actually, the Alien movies that came out in the 90s were quite campy compared to the first two, especially the '97 one!)

[@Quirderph]

Technically, Alien is about an extraterrestrial *being* abducted.

[@art-b2x]

That was a fairly weak claim. The late 70s also saw the release of Close Encounters (a big boost for po-faced sci-fi on the silver screen, which had appeared a spent force in the wake of Star Wars' success), and the 80s had seminal TV and film hits such as the mini-series V, and James Cameron's The Abyss (the former's skin-tearing body-horror and the latter's groundbreaking CGI are both etched in the memories of those of us who grew up in the era). And the 90s and 2000s had lots of campy aliens on screen (Mars Attacks!!, 3rd Rock, Independence Day).

[@tylerrobinson7257]

Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977)

[@Morbegs]

Look Ik it’s a sponsorship but I find it hard to imagine anyone wants those weirdly “animated” photos

[@comradeinternet467]

I bet Harry Potter fans are the target demographic for that feature.

[@pepperonicici]

thought the same - too uncanny. but your thought sounds reasonable ^^ ​@@comradeinternet467

[@DoctorMysterio15]

​@@comradeinternet467Or the fans of Fringe (on the other side the newspapers have GIFs instead of photos)

[@HirataRei]

Actually I recognized them from the time my father in law was having a little fun also colouring and animating his ancestors photos! It was a great deal of fun for him and he'd send them in the family groupchat as a curiosity, so there is probably a broader market for it

[@maxfimbres8661]

it’s probably for people with close dead family members, seeing someone break a pose from a picture to smile at the camera (or similar things) really give a sense of life to the picture that brings a lot of grieving people some comfort

[@formersamonellaclone]

i was literally just thinking about alien abductions earlier literally seconds before this video what

[@Me-vn3gz]

it’s the aliens

[@liamthewarrior]

Me too hahaha

[@larissabrglum3856]

*alien whistle sound*

[@mariamatedei]

The red men were sending signals 😂

[@MCastleberry1980]

Funny enough, I'm reading the book "The Interrupted Journey" about Betty and Barney Hill

[@Kenzalina_]

Hey Kaz, one correction on your my heritage video. The names people used were given by the port their ship left from. Not changed by Ellis Island. This is a myth, and one of the first things you will learn on a visit there. Many people had to travel by land over numerous countries, before reaching a port in which they would embark on their journey to the US from. Often there were language barriers, between the people they gave their name to, and the immigrants who were traveling to New York. There is no evidence that names were changed at either Ellis Island, or through Castle Gardens. On top of that many people changed their names once in the states, in order to be able to get work, or to anglicize their names to distance themselves from countries that were less desirable. German’s during WWI are a good example. I love your videos and how dedicated you are to true history.

[@julietfischer5056]

I wonder where the 'We got our new name at Ellis Island' came from? Illiterate passengers who didn't find out their names were misspelled until after they met others of their nationality who could correct them? Or did the ones who simplified their names say that so they wouldn't come across as sneaky? Did the stories about misspellings get garbled in the telling and then become 'common knowledge'?

[@quinnlee-newbury9003]

A Kaz video is just what I needed today! When I was like 12 my family and I saw a weird light in the sky that didn't move like planes or satellites typically do, but I doubt it was an alien. I definitely fall into the category that I think most people do of there's almost certainly other life in the universe, but they almost certainly aren't visiting earth

[@splendidcolors]

I grew up a few miles from an international airport and between multiple West Coast military bases (including a lighter-than-air base that hosted the Goodyear blimp at times). Any lights in the sky were assumed to be human-made if they weren't moon/planets/stars. (You could still see stars in Orange County in the 1970s.)

[@RyanSprague51]

As a 23 year veteran of UFO research, I just have to say you did a fantastic job of chronicling the alien abduction phenomenon throughout the years, and enjoyed your objective approach to what it could all be by giving it a historical context. Very refreshing and thank you!

[@nikoteardrop4904]

The main issue I have with supernatural explanations for weird shit (and alien abduction is supernatural in sci-fi drag) is that it's deeply incurious. Instead of being willing to say "I have no fucking idea what just happened", people fall back on trope and stop actually inquiring. These explanations are never going to be the most accurate explanation. For one, they are inherently human inventions. Any actual explanation is pretty much always going to be FAR weirder than ghosts or aliens or psychic superpowers, and will always provide more questions. Actual understanding fuels curiosity. Supernatural understanding fuels clicks and book sales.

[@julietfischer5056]

The explanation will certainly be more interesting, and give more insight into how we interact with and perceive the world than defaulting to faeries or aliens. Or show us the limits of our technology (such as those security-camera 'angels' that are really out-of-focus insects reflecting light).

[@FinnScully]

The problem with this whole phenomenon is the bias people have before they even look at the great deal of work researchers have done. Minds are simply made up before they even begin to understand and absorb information. It’s the biggest trick the government ever pulled and it’s going to accrue into something that will inevitably affect everyone . We will have no way of knowing how much of a negative or positive impact this will have on society when these things eventually reveal themselves. The level we’re at now with many still in denial proves it will be catastrophic. It’s funny in a way because she talks about the racism connection in abductions and in a way if this is undeniably proven for everyone to be happening (for me and others it already is) then she will have been contributing to the prejudiced response and annexing of abductees from being made whole. These people most of all want clarification. They want answers. They don’t want their own family members questioning if they are mentally fit when they know it happened to them. Though typically the entire family is abducted even if some don’t realize it. Call it what you will. Crazy or whatever but in due time if we were spot on with what was occurring then abductees will be deserving of some serious reparations. That’s if there’s any governing body left by then.

[@JALaflinOfficial]

I recommend anything by Jacques Vallee when it comes to connecting ufo/alien stuff to older historical incidents. Really interesting.

[@gamerwolf1720]

A Trip to the Moon was a book written by Jules Verne, but the movie was made by Georges Melies. He made a ton of really cool early movies, check him out Unrelated: how did that medieval kid become a priest if he was married?

[@mikey-wl2jt]

the rules have always been surpisigly flexible, particularly in the middle ages

[@julietfischer5056]

Clerical celibacy wasn't always a thing. That may have developed later. Heck, the Pope only became infallible in the 19th Century, so it's not as if religious practices have never changed.

[@tremorsfan]

My favorite pre-20th century alien encounter story is that of the so called "Mowing Devil". In the 17th century, a land owner was telling one of his tenants what a lousy job he was doing mowing down his wheat. In retaliation the farmer threw down his scythe and said "let the devil mow it for you". That night he saw strange lights in the field and the next day all the stalks were pressed down like a crop circle.

[@julietfischer5056]

They were cut, not pressed. People go looking to old stories to demonstrate that aliens have always been around.

[@MariaVosa]

It's kind of telling that the "Unwilling Chosen One" narrative became popular in the 1980s. Spielberg's movie Encounter of the Third Kind which came out in 1977 had that as its central plot point.

[@Jojo.F87]

Ooo Mila had some SASS about the cult lady LOL Another excellent vid Kaz, this was such a fascinating dive into a "mystery" that I honestly have grown quite bored with. 15/10 would let the aliens wipe my memories so i can watch this for the first time again.

[@tristianugalde5225]

You touched on a really great point about the relationship between how people see these experiences and how media portrays them/shifts them culturally. You should absolutely read Dr. Diana Pasulka’s “American Cosmic” if you get the chance.

[@dungeonsanddobbers2683]

I remember, as a kid in the 90's, spotting a UFO. Big, white, doughnut shaped object moving slowly across the sky. Was always one of those things that popped into my head from time to time as I got older. Year later I would see a Sikorsky Cypher drone, and I immediately recognised it as the thing I saw when I was a kid.

[@neonshower]

As always, I’m so impressed and grateful for your thorough research and contextualization. I consume a lot of alien media, but so rarely is the cultural context of events brought into the conversation. I always always learn something new from your vids, no matter how versed I think I am in the subject.

[@RobinGoodfell]

I love thinking about the similarities between alien abductions and Faerie abductions

[@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o]

Also reincarnation stories and afterlife beings of some kind. Some of those actually resemble the greys quite a bit - only more shiny and kinda non-corporeal.

[@julietfischer5056]

Something in the way our brains are put together, and possibly unconscious use of tropes.

[@Sugarbeansupreme]

Yooo, there's a meet-up for people in Northern WI at this bar called Benson's Hideaway every year for people into UFOs and aliens and stuff. I've been a couple of times, and it's a real vibe.

[@MegCazalet]

“A Trip To The Moon” (“Le Voyage Dans La Lune”) was inspired by two Jules Verne novels, but the film was written, directed, and produced by, and even starred Georges Méliès. ETA: Corrections made, now that this got traction versus the other comment I made. This one posted by accident while I was drafting it.

[@ferociousgumby]

Melies. But notice how his name also spells. . . ME LIES!

[@ferociousgumby]

Just a coincidence? . . . . . I DON'T THINK SO!😄

[@gentlerat]

I was about to post this but knew that 90% of the comment section would be correcting this point.

[@MegCazalet]

@@ferociousgumby I didn’t even realize this comment posted! This must’ve been while I was writing a draft. (Ive noticed even my already posted comments don’t disappear from the writing box lately; I have to then delete the words to write a different comment. Very confusing.) I posted a more thorough one and got the spelling and accents right on that one, and without the random “E” at the end. I’m gonna delete this one because I don’t want to make two of the same basic comment correcting something, with one having mistakes, and the other one is better. (I’ll wait a bit just in case you don’t see this right away want to post the ME LIES over on that one; it’s funny!) ETA: I noticed it got more traction than the other, so I just made corrections. I don’t know what’s better to do, leave it or delete it. Don’t wanna come off snarky. Thank you for letting me know!

[@sarahwatts7152]

I do like that the Air Force is being more open about some of the phenomena that their pilots see - which means that more UFOs just become FOs or known optical illusions

[@julietfischer5056]

As long as doing so won't compromise the ability to gather intelligence or the existence of secret military projects.

[@slurpchannel1475]

Amazing video. I would add that the Green Knight isn’t ambiguous as the Red Man stories: we learn in the end that it was Gawain’s fairy mother, Morgan le Fay, wearing a disguise to teach Gawain a lesson in chivalry. The text eventually makes it clear who the Green Knight is and why “he” appeared. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to read anything alien in it.

[@thenewniccage2283]

Kaz is paraphrasing James Wade (listed in the sources) here: the point isn't that the Green Knight is an alien, but that he's a representative of the same class of bizarre, otherworldly, violent characters who behave in strange and arbitrary ways that defy logical explanation. There's a bunch of other examples in medieval literature, and as I understand it Kaz's point is more 'this was a clear character 'type' in medieval texts' than that the Green Knight should be understood as an alien.

[@julietfischer5056]

Despite the desperate efforts to see it as a survival of paganism, it's full of Christian symbolism---just not the type we're used to. The only part of it that might be considered pre-Christian is the Beheading Game that begins the tale.

[@chelseawhite7117]

39:50 that is the sound of an adorable kitty laughing at the reel we just watched

[@SWV1787]

I feel like nearly everyone can honestly say they have seen a UFO in the most literal sense. We probably saw some flying thing and were unsure if it was a drone or helicopter and had to ask our selves, “Is it a bird, a plane, no, Superman?” In any case it is an “Unidentified Flying Object”

[@Paralissa]

Came for the aliens stayed for the cat.

[@jrneal1220]

I mean, y'know...

[@bikenesmith]

i think barney’s racial anxiety is important to mention but as a black person, if a white person told me the wild traumatic supernatural experience i had was actually just the effects of my racial trauma i would turn into the joker 😭 just feels uncomfortably like the “benevolent” gaslighting + invalidation brought to black experiences (natural + supernatural) and black cultural beliefs. it feels inappropriate to present such a deeply personal + complex thing as a _racism-induced mental break_ as a strong possibility, when barney himself never implied that or endorsed that read.

[@SplatterInker]

To be fair this is an issue in dealing with any experience like this that's simply heightened by the power relations and ick of racism. Because if you are saying: "look you saw what you saw but that wasn't real" in our culture it becomes immediately paternalistic and dismissive. But that also doesn't mean they're necessarily wrong - it's highly unlikely the couple went through what they thought they did anywhere except in their own minds. Maybe it's just because our culture doesn't take the world of our minds and emotions seriously enough? It always has to be relegated to "not real" "fantasy" etc. We really struggle with the idea that something can be real but not necessarily physically real. That is probably a result of the vilification of witch beliefs to be honest. Because those witch hunts got so out of control they threatened social hierarchy, hence the campaign to shut them down and tell everyone they were idiots for believing in it. I don't know. I lean on the side of prefering to know what's "real" (i.e. physical) and what's true (emotionally etc) and don't have any problem trying to understand truths which are personal and don't match the collective, but while that separation does create issues like the one you raised, we do need some way of discerning between what's real/true to one person, or a small group, and what is real/true to all living creatures.

[@jasonblalock4429]

Yeah, without believing in abductions myself, I still thought this video skewed a bit much into speculative debunking territory. That bothered me too. Whatever exactly he went through, it feels presumptive - at the least - to push that sort of narrative onto him.

[@tremorsfan]

I have no proof of this but I've always had the idea that they were attacked by normal humans and this was their way of coping with it.

[@roriitorii]

That’s something I thought about as well, I have studied UFOs and alien abduction for a long time now and that’s a huge thing that the community does talk about. They don’t seem to bring it up on any white person who is abducted and seemingly believes more so in white “abductees” while those like Barney or other POC people who are abducted always seem to be scrutinized more and less believed. It sucks because some of the people who are white who claim to be abducted hold weird accounts that seem to be sprouted from white supremacy due to the look/actions of their abductors and messages claimed their abductors told them, meanwhile Hispanic, black, and even Asian abductees are less believed. There’s always some form of “well, it wasn’t an alien like the person themself believes, it must have been racial trauma, or some supernatural force from their culture, or *insert other excuse*” even if it’s nothing the person themselves claimed

[@autumnrose5779]

I'm with you on this one. As an indigenous person I also find it weird that all of the video essays coming out debunking "aliens" are claiming this is solely a European or white delusion, when indigenous folk around the world have been sharing our own stories about "sky people" for ages. This shit ain't new, and just because white people's ET experiences may be influenced by their complex history and guilt with colonization and race doesn't mean it's the same for everyone.

[@paulchavez3039]

It's kinda sad but adorable when you look at it all zoomed out. People feel confused and small, and many people don't have minds like a computer... it's vibes. We just want to feel special, and like it all means something, and that we matter. So we dream. In our hearts we're all just a bunch of little kids yearning to play in the woods with the faeries and the elves.

[@J.C_Hong]

Kaz Rowe presents:"The Queer History of Aliens and the Rise of Gay Space Communism" LOL, at least that what I'm expecting going in.

[@Gloomdrake]

I mean, a lot of “ancient astronaut theorists” are racist and homophobic, so your assumption isn’t untrue

[@delphinidin]

I know they're not directly about ABDUCTIONS, but I'm really surprised you didn't mention the alien congress testimony!

[@internetmachine]

That's because there's nothing to see here, folks. No aliens, move along.

[@lucas10armond]

@@internetmachine looks like you are scared humm...

[@internetmachine]

@@lucas10armond scared of what? No aliens, okay. Get back to work, slave.

[@rfnpictures]

Yeah, this is a very skewed presentation that negates a lot of historical fact and dismisses the subject pretty broadly.

[@internetmachine]

@@rfnpictures it's all weather balloons with sunspots, and everyone is just crazy with tinfoil hats on. No ETs! just keep working and paying taxes.

[@XsomeoneXelseX]

My job has had me watching a bunch of TV documentaries about alien abduction and Barney and Betty Hill recently and I'm so thankful to havve come across this video to contrast with all that History Channel level crazy.

[@KeithPrince-cp3me]

Kaz should have worn an alien space suit. "Blood" rain is well documented, indeed returning to my home town a couple of years back I found everything outdoors covered in fine red dust, red rain had fallen, coloured from dust from the Sahara that had crossed all the way to north of London. In Scottish folklore there's a character called Fir dearg - the red man. A tale I recall reading as a child was of a boy taken by gnomes, it was a morality tale to warn children against being greedy. The reason Arnold's claim excited the press was the alleged supersonic performance, though his estimations have been challenged. But in 1947 breaking the "sound barrier" for the first time was a big thing. In the UK of the 1980s hypnotic regression played a large part in the "child satanic abduction" panic that swept the nation.

[@splendidcolors]

The US had the same "child satanic abduction" panic then. It seemed so obviously fake when my mother and I (20-ish) saw the stories on the news.

[@CutieBanana09]

I once saw what I at the time thought was a bunch of UFO’s flying around each other in space, but looking back, it probably had way more to do with the fact that I was very stoned and already have bad eyesight 💀

[@julietfischer5056]

At night? Could have been bugs or bats reflecting outside lighting?

[@konthewondercow811]

You have no idea how happy I was when I saw this on my fyp! I've been doing a lot of alien research lately and have been so disappointed in the way certain stories are presented and I KNEW you would do it justice.

[@MCastleberry1980]

Whatever happened to Betty and Barney definitely traumatized them. I certainly don't think they're lying, and Barney's hypnosis recordings are nightmare fuel. That's a man definitely feeling pure terror in the moment.

[@gloriamontgomery6900]

Yes, something happened . The doctor who hypnotized him did not believe it was alien abduction. He felt it may have been a vivid , unexplained sleep phenomenon. Betty and Barney had seen a movie with aliens in it some time before as well. These kind of things can seem terrifyingly real and vivid. I had an experience once where I woke up in utter terror believing that someone had broken in my front door. I grabbed my rifle and crept toward the door, very slowly. There was nothing there, but it was the most frightening experience of my life

[@TravisWebb]

Hearing someone, not from WA, say Yakima, is just mind blowing.

[@lukep.]

I’ve never seen an alien/UFO, but when I was in HS one day I was so sleep deprived I hallucinated a dragon licking my friend’s face during class 😂

[@julietfischer5056]

Did you tell your friend, later?

[@Peregrina]

Cozy x3 I've hallucinated about a breathing carpet and whiteboard text dripping down while being highly sleep deprived during a convention

[@sandhya315]

Mila definitely was cussing about the cult starseed woman lol @39:50

[@jrneal1220]

I mean, I'm not surprised that Mila would recognize a fake starseed...

[@sandhya315]

@@jrneal1220 cats absolutely know fake people tho

[@SasquachPL]

21:20 yes, the tone is very different, and your explanation of that is logical. But still, you could absolutely chalk that up simply to one recording being a hypnosis session, and the other an informal interview.

[@Kudagraz]

also YEARS apart. really misleading representation.

[@teucer915]

Have I ever seen a UFO? Yeah, couple times I've seen something in the sky I couldn't identify. Meets the technical definition. But I've got no a priori reason to go thinking they were alien spacecraft.

[@gloriamontgomery6900]

Exactly. I saw something once that I can’t explain in the night sky above me. I think it was a plane flying low overhead and some kind of weather phenomenon kept the sound from reaching me. I never automatically assumed it was an alien craft

[@caspenbee]

In irish folklore there's the concept of a "stray sod." Step on one of these on a familiar path, lose your way, and come back hours later, terrified out of your mind, often unable to speak. (One of the explanations for stray sods is that they're places where babies who died before baptism are buried, which fits the reproductive anxiety theme). One thing's for sure; lost time has been a problem for humans throughout the centuries.

[@julietfischer5056]

And stories in which people live entire lives within a few minutes are also common. Temporal displacement has a long history.

[@caspenbee]

@@julietfischer5056 I like that phrase. "Temporal displacement." Happens to me every day with the dang ADHD.

[@shaunasimpson7689]

Yay .a new kaz video...what a nice thing to find..let's learn together folks.

[@georgiadsouza7935]

9:40 giggling at the little picture of po being snuck in

[@MegCazalet]

Totally a side note, but I love Betty and Barney Hill’s dachshund in that picture of them. And in general. I’m a dedicated dachshund owner. ❤

[@thegoosegirl42]

Lost hours, sudden bruises, and anxiety? I thought I just had hyperfocus, bad spatial awareness, and mental illness, but turns out it's been aliens the whole time! *turns around and trips over my cat*

[@belindamillion3192]

Could you do the history of hypnotism? I think it would so fascinating and I love how you bring the logical side into things.

[@cyrilcherniak2128]

I'm grateful you go into the racial factors, because they're often completely glossed over even by other skeptics. Now, this is probably inappropriate to speculate on... but I know someone who experienced a horrifically traumatic childhood abuse event and as a protective mechanism, encoded it in their brain as an alien experience. They only began unpacking the reality of what happened decades later. These things happen surprisingly often. The X-Files episode Jose Chung's "From Outer Space" explores that idea in a playful way, but it's a very real phenomenon Barney was reportedly frightened to be traveling with Betty in the specific area they were in as an interracial couple, and felt it was unsafe. At the time, people like them were regularly brutalized by violent racists. It's always been an uncomfortable question at the back of my mind... what actually DID happen to these people? Could it have been something so traumatic that their minds created this as a protective mechanism, not simply a shared delusion caused by sleep deprivation?

[@talkswithravens982]

She missed the main reason that alien abduction stories have fallen off in the last two decades. The saying goes, “no photos - didn’t happen”! We all carry phones with cameras now, so if you were being abducted, you would take photos or video. If you went on an alien spacecraft, we would expect to see images or video of the inside. So, now the proof required for these stories doesn’t exist. Back before there were phones with cameras, most people didn’t carry cameras with them all the time. Cameras were bulky and getting photos developed was expensive. We mostly only took photos of vacations and special events, like birthdays, anniversaries, etc. Most other events weren’t filmed, so we “accepted” stories without photo or video proof. Not happening anymore.

[@TheDaveKrueger]

Same with Bigfoot etc

[@1331423]

Oh there's still a lot of them out there. A camera isn't going to stop you from seeing what you want to see. There's people all around the world who think the cloud they took a photo of is proof of whatever insanity they believe in.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@TheDaveKrueger- With Bigfoot, there was always the question of why there was security video of bears raiding dumpsters and trash cans, but never the big guy. (Not to mention that a few should have been killed by vehicles or hunters.) If Bigfoot existed, our food waste would be as enticing to them as it is to bears and raccoons, and people's vegetable gardens should have been ruined by more than deer.

[@lsjansen]

I've always thought of aliens as a modern take on even older fairy legends and myths.

[@lucas10armond]

Passport to Magonia!!!!!

[@lucas10armond]

Actually the frist abductee was Vilas Boas , in 1957 Brazil Here we have ufological events that date to the colonization, jesuit priest registred the abduction on an indigenous man

[@noaccount2494]

I had not heard of that, probably cuz Im in the states

[@Didi_Meow_Records]

Video delves into historical events starting as early as the 14th century..... one commenter .... _well actually in the 1950's_ .... what?

[@avionmember101]

I cannot explain the joy and relief I felt when I saw that you had posted. Thank you for doing what you do.

[@waternymph99]

I thought the title read the history of Allen abductions, and I was interested in the implication that people named Allen get kidnapped more so than anyone else

[@mariamatedei]

I just remembered an art intervention that was posed in a small room at a local museum in my city that was based on alien abduction and alien sightings but the topic actually was malicious corporate intervention on the local land, the art piece/setting drew a parallel between that human intervention and alien malicious intervention on our enviroment. It really stuck with me.

[@jam901]

Damn, i just opened youtube to look for something to listen to when this was uploaded And i was specifically looking for any channels with a similar vibe to this xdd as in, i needed some Kaz Rowe when I've already seen all videos on the channel

[@katiehowell2537]

If you're looking for similar channels check out Lady Of The Library!

[@jam901]

@@katiehowell2537 thanks for the recommendation!! Will check out :))

[@justinmegibben4909]

Sad you didn't mention about the fey and faerie stories that also focus a lot of kidnapping and breeding stories which are so similar to modern alien abductions.

[@maryglittenberg6848]

Love how my man Poe the Teletubbie got categorized under satan little red man lol 9:42

[@watermalin]

Hearing that the "legend" of flying saucers originated in my home state was pretty cool to learn!

[@KaseyWithers]

23:31 this is total speculation on my part, but I also wonder what the condition of their car was, and the temperature outside. Older cars were more likely to release carbon monoxide into the cabin when the heating system was faulty. If it was a chilly night where they needed the heater, and if their heater was releasing carbon monoxide, the lapse in time and possible hallucinations would make sense. As always, love your videos! I grew up in Utah near the Anasazi ruins where Alien theories run rampant. Some petroglyphs even appear to have an astronaut like figure in them. Their "disappearance" from the area combined with those petroglyphs, meant that for a long time it was theorized (by ancient alien types) that the people were taken by aliens lol turns out if you listen to actual indigenous historians from the Southern Utah, Northern Arizona area (Diné mostly) drought drove the ansazi south to find water. No aliens, just white people making crazy stories lol

[@julietfischer5056]

And the 'astronauts' were depictions of people wearing headdresses or masks, similar to modern Hopi Katsina dancers.

[@KaseyWithers]

@@julietfischer5056 I honestly didn't know the specifics of why the petroglyphs looked that way, we just knew that they obviously weren't real "space men" lol that's really interesting, I'll have to look into that!

[@julietfischer5056]

@@KaseyWithers- If you think about it, that makes sense. People make their deities mostly in their own image. During religious rituals, people wear special clothing, particularly those who perform the rituals. Masks, headdresses, capes and cloaks, robes, body paint, jewelry, and so on. Much rock art is not realistic, either because of the available tools or religious reasons. So animals and people may look like anything from stick figures to elaborate shapes. If every human figure follows the same artistic style but one has a circle drawn around its head, that's either a type of halo or stylized headgear.

[@mathieuleader8601]

I like to think that creepy red man in the first story you told evolved to be that mysterious red dwarf who advised French ruler Napeoleon.

[@tenebrousoul9368]

Fudge yeah, let's go! Love you, Kaz.* * Not in a personal, romantic, or creepy way. I just love what you present and your vibe.

[@soaringspirits2267]

That's called uhhh, wuz it. Parasocial! The appreciation you have for someone and the content they produce, from afar. Like platonic, but for a creator you don't know.

[@tenebrousoul9368]

@@soaringspirits2267 thank you. I have squirrel brain today and couldn't think of the word.

[@rosalie5024]

Squirrel brain Thats such a cute way to say it 🐿️ :D

[@leptonsoup337]

I cherish your videos. I love sitting here, working on my writing, while listening to you present topics that never fail to disappoint.

[@13realmusic]

I just finished reading The Three Body Problem and am still mulling over the idea that aliens could be on their way to destroy humanities and take over the earth. Really seems like a waste of resources to simply hover around and abduct a handful of people unless you know for a fact that your planet is environmentally more rich than earth.

[@lucas10armond]

Cause they are not "aliens" in this sense, this beeings have a direct conection with us

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

Yeah, it makes no sense that they would try to hide themselves from everyone except random crazy people.

[@Pixelkip]

@@MatthewTheWanderer lol many people throughout the 1900's to today have been had onboard encounters / contact that are credible people with no history of mental health issues.. while many of these cases could be correlated to mental health issues, the numbers don't lie they can't all be made up

[@lucas10armond]

@@MatthewTheWanderer if you trying to do some kind of socio-cultural engeniring... maybe

[@lucas10armond]

@@MatthewTheWanderer and stop calling everyone crazy

[@malthompson388]

the anesthesiologist talking about the class coming over to the cadaver to show the excitement to others of finding something interesting was so kind of heartwarming ? it’s sad yes but this is what they wanted !! she talked about patients alive talking about haha they’ll find ____ in _____ !!!! it reminds me of highschool doing my dissection on a shark i forget which species and i realized my shark had both male and female reproductive organs and called the teacher and friends over it brought the whole class over and even the lead teacher had said he’d never seen it

[@RealBradMiller]

That's cool!! Saw a cardinal that was split directly down the center, half male, half female plumage, and tried to explain to my father that likely extended to the sexual organs of the bird too! He didn't find it as fascinating... Haven't seen the bird yet this year, want to get a good photo of them!

[@such_a_dork]

Me: "Well, this'll be some fun, lighthearted evening watching." Kaz: "Let's talk about colonial trauma!"

[@iiitsbriii]

43:35 Hey, that's me! I am a shifter🎉❤ I don't care if it's just deep psychosis or whatever people claim it to be, it's fun and honestly I have learned a lot by going to go to other realities. The whole history is scattered but it's been around for ages. It's fun and doesn't hurt anybody 🫶🫶 Love you, Kaz!

[@wanderinghistorian]

The "Really?" at 22:16 was the most incredulous tone I've ever heard. Reminded me of Dr. Evil's "riiiiggghhhht."

[@JadeFoxAlpha]

17:14 A Trip to the Moon (1902) wasn't made by Jules Verne, it was based on an 1865 Jules Verne novel, but the film was made by Georges Méliès.

[@wyattweiss1494]

A journey to the moon is actually called "a trip to the moon", and was made by Georges Meilies, but was inspired by Jules Verne's "from the earth to the moon" it's an easy mistake to make. Anyway, I love your videos!!!!

[@btarg1]

I cannot tell you how much i appreciate you using proper literary sources when discussing this and putting the effort you do into the writing of these videos! ❤

[@Movieman4100]

you should do a video on George Adamski and the whole alien contactee craze in the 50s it just an incredible rabbit hole of hucksters and con men.

[@jrneal1220]

Between Kaz's numerous videos on hucksters and now this one on alien abduction, it seems like a natural fit for this channel.

[@ZsaZsaJae]

Great to see you! Thanks for uploading! Vibes are immaculate as per usual

[@kathleencaitlyn]

Small correction: the 1902 film The Trip to the Moon was actually made by George Melies, who was a pioneer in early film history and made a large number of fantastical films. Jules Verne was an author, who had, as far as I can tell, never any hand in the production of films.