The CONTROVERSY Between Sid Gillman and John Hadl | 1966 Chargers

John Hadl is one of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of the San Diego Chargers and the AFL. Sid Gillman is one of the greatest coaches of all-time, regardless of league (AFL or NFL), and is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But after the 1966 season, Hadl was so angry with Gillman for some of his tactics that Hadl demanded a trade out of San Diego, as he never wanted to play for the Chargers again. This is the story behind the controversy of the 1966 San Diego Chargers with two of the biggest icons of AFL history
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Members of the 1966 Chargers:
Steve Tensi
Dan Henning
Lance Alworth
Miller Farr
John Hadl
Keith Lincoln
Paul Lowe
Gary Garrison
Jim Allison
Kenny Graham
Bob Zeman
Gene Foster
Jacque MacKinnon
Dick Van Raaphorst
Joe Beauchamp
Nat Whitmyer
Jim Tolbert
John Travis
Speedy Duncan
Bud Whitehead
Chuck Allen
Dick Degen
Paul Latzke
Tom Good
Frank Buncom
Steve DeLong
Mike London
Emil Karas
Doug Cline
Ed Mitchell
John Milks
John Farris
Sam Gruneisen
Rick Redman
Archie Matsos
Don Estes
Fred Moore
Gary Kirner
Larry Martin
Ron Mix
Ernie Wright
Terry Owens
Jim Griffin
Walt Sweeney
George Gross
Houston Ridge
Dave Plump
Bob Mitinger
Willie Frazier
Bob Petrich
Earl Faison
Howard Kindig
Don Norton

[@kaysguy]

Gillman was a pioneer in 1963, when he introduced Dianabol to Chargers training camp.

[@astrostar49]

Great video my friend. Nice to see you spotlight John Hadl. Wish I got to see him play. Those Chargers uniforms were fresh, and Hadl looked fire with that #21 for a QB. Surprised that it wasn't retired by the time Tomlinson wore it. It's a shame that a lot of people either forget, or just don't know about Hadl since his prime was before the merger.

[@johnmassoud930]

Hadl should be in the HoF

[@harpercole5321]

Seems like a lot of Gillman's personnel issues stemmed from his dual role as head coach and GM. He'd often tell players they weren't much good, in the hope that he could sign them for less come contract negotiation time.

[@CTubeMan]

Kinda like Connie Mack with the Philadelphia Athletics.

[@davanmani556]

Hadl was also doing punting duties as well.

[@OriginalOne1960]

The Chargers name and logo was created and originated in Los Angeles it’s a Horse charging into battle with a USC L.A.Memorial Coliseum historical connection and Tommy Walker aka”Tommy Trojan”and then owner Barron Hilton. The Chargers name originated from the USC football games and Tommy Walker aka (Tommy Trojan) famous historical Charge chant he created “Da Dah Dah Da“ Charge! “Da Dah Dah Da Trojans Warriors Charge! Tommy Walker then musician /team kicker helped inspire then owner Barron Hilton “R.I.P.” to name the Chargers football team from the famous Charge chant he created as a USC musician band member /team kicker. When Barron Hilton attended the USC football games the previous years as a football fan at the L.A.Coliseum he would hear the Tommy Walker Charge chant. When Tommy Walker would run out to the football field to attempt the extra point kicks as the team kicker the USC team music band would play Tommy’s Charge chant he created as the team musician and the football fans that attended the games would yell out his Charge chant “Da Dah Dah Dah Da” Charge! “Da Dah Dah Da “Trojan Warriors Charge! to motivate him to score the extra point kicks. So that’s where Barron Hilton got inspired and got the idea to name the Los Angeles Chargers football team. The proof is in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo with the horse charging into battle. The Charger is a horse charging into battle. very similar to the USC Trojan Warrior with shield and sword and horse mascot charging on to the field to battle. Hence the horse in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo. The lightning bolt idea came from Barron Hilton liking the Air Force College football team lightning bolt logo as a College football fan. Till this day that famous Charge chant is heard at the game’s and through out many other sporting game events. The Los Angeles Chargers r the true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace and not too many team’s can claim that fact. Rams were born in Cleveland 1936 and Raiders were born in Oakland 1960 And that’s a fact these other teams can’t ever claim. And also the Chargers r the true Southern California NFL team because they have never left Southern California unlike the Cleveland/ST.Louis Rams and the Oakland/Las Vegas Nevada Raiders. Let’s Go Los Angeles Chargers The true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace L.A. Da Da Dah Dah Da Charge!!! ⚡️🐴 🏈 Born in L.A. in 1960 and played their first season ever in Chargers history at the L.A.memorial Coliseum finishing the season with a 10-4 record. Da Da Dah Dah Da Charge!!! …⚡️🐴 🏈

[@OriginalOne1960]

Al Davis copied the Los Angeles Chargers 1960 original shield logo. Al Davis was part of the Los Angeles Chargers coaching staff 1960 birth season through 1962. Al Davis then left the Chargers coaching staff in 1962 to become the manager of the Oakland Raiders in 1963. Al Davis obviously copied the the 1960 L.A.Chargers original shield logo and added it to the Oakland Raiders pirate logo in 1963 because coincidentally the original 1960-1962 Oakland born Raiders pirate team logo didn’t have the shield logo in their original birth year of 1960-1962 until Al Davis joined the Oakland Raiders in 1963 then added the shield logo to the pirate logo. Raiders copy cat shield logo but the true Original L.A.born Shield logo is the Original Los Angeles Chargers battle horse shield logo. Da Da Da Da Charge!!! ⚡️🐴 🏈 Let’s Go Los Angeles Chargers! The true original 1960 L.A. born team now back playing in the original birth city L.A. And the true original Southern California NFL team Rams born in Cleveland Ohio played in Cleveland Ohio 10 years and played ST.Louis Missouri 23 years and Raiders born in Oakland played in Oakland 43 years and now play in Nevada. Da Da Da Da Charge!!!!!⚡️🐴 🏈

[@tygrkhat4087]

Another good Sid Gillman story is when he tried to sneak a player through an arcane waiver rule and ended up giving Buffalo the QB to lead them to 2 AFL titles and a third championship game.

[@twodog4220]

Jack Kemp

[@gluserty]

Came back to directly bite the Chargers too, since the Bills beat the Chargers to win those back-to-back titles.

[@chadwickwhite6107]

@@twodog4220 Jack Kemp was a GREAT Quarterback for the Buffalo Bills and the BEST politician in New York State HISTORY. Sid Gillman and the San Diego Chargers REALLY SCREWED UP by letting Jack Kemp go.

[@twodog4220]

@@chadwickwhite6107 I met Sid Gilman when I was a kid. What a great guy! I also met Kemp in 1996 when I was assigned to his security detail when he ran for VP during the RNC here in San Diego.

[@Lawomenshoops]

No mention of Hadl hiring Gillman as an advisor, when Hadl was HC of the LA Express of the USFL? One of the selling points to Steve Young was Sid Gillman was going help with the offense. Also, Hadl was traded from the Rams to Green Bay for 5 high draft picks 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in 75 and 1st and 2nd in 76. Hadl was a bust in Green Bay.

[@Boomhower89]

Poor Hadl, if he had been able to stay with the Rams they might’ve won a championship. Can’t blame them for accepting the trade for the draft pics they were offered. Instead of a possible Championship with the Rams he is remembered for ruining the Packers that wasn’t his fault.

[@toddbiesel4288]

SD traded Hadl the same year they drafted Fouts.

[@joemckim1183]

Sandwiched around Unitas' last season with the Bolts.

[@NickCC23]

Hadl may be the last QB (non emergency) to wear a number > 19.

[@GetBenched2010]

if you count the CFL, Ron Lancaster wore #23 as late as 1978.

[@rickluque6429]

I enjoyed it very much! Thanks for sharing 👍👍

[@nasetvideos]

Great story telling again. Hadl had every right to be upset with the decision by Gillman. Made no sense. Rotating QBs, especially with one that was very good, was not a smart idea at all. John Hadl was most certainly in the "Hall of Very Good"--Very nice way to put it....Side note: I don't remember ever seeing a NFL QB with a number in the 20s (I think Flutie in college was 22)

[@tygrkhat4087]

Back before the strict numbering system, numbers were all over the place. Sammy Baugh wore 33 with Washington, Sid Luckman of the Bears and Charley Connerly of the Giants wore 42, Bobby Layne wore 22 for the Bears, Lions and Steelers. In the AAFC, Otto Graham wore 60 for the Browns and Frankie Albert of the 49ers wore 63. Otto eventually forced to change from 60 to 14 after the Browns entered the NFL. One of Otto's jerseys is in the HOF, and it was obviously worn for several seasons, as you could see where the 60 had been removed and 14 sewn on in its place; not to mention the multiple repairs.

[@joeylawn36111]

1:11 That Blocking!

[@HRConsultant_Jeff]

thanks for this. The Chargers used to practice at high school fields. When they were at the Helix High, some friends and I shagged balls for the players. I was about 9-10 years old. There I was with Lance Alworth, Sid Gilman, Paul Lowe, Keith Lincoln, Gary Garrison and linemen like Ron Mix . I got a lot of autographs and they were very nice to us. It is too bad kids can't have that kind of experience now. By the way, the new reporter's name is pronounced Al Coopay. He did KOGO TV sports and did the radio broadcasts of the Padres when they were a Pacific Coast League team.

[@canamrider07]

Al Coopay now that’s a blast from the past. He had a piece of wood and would slap it down to simulate the sound of the ball hitting the bat at the old stadium in Fashion Valley. The Chargers held fall camp in Escondido for two years back in the sixties. You could just walk in and watch.

[@HRConsultant_Jeff]

@@canamrider07 I used to listen to Al all of the time calling the Padres games. He was very instrumental in getting the stadium as well as Jack Murphy. Fun fact, when the sports casters would go on vacation on KOGO TV they would bring in retired sports players. One time they brought in Ron Mix who had huge shoulders and when they showed him looking into the camera, his shoulders would not fit in the shot. Fortunately he went on to be an attorney in the SF area.

[@Xix1326]

Wow. I never connected the dots, mostly being an East Coast fan. But Hadl, Fouts, Rivers and now (maybe) Herbert, well, the Chargers certainly had their fair share of franchise QBs. As a Jets fan, it almost makes me cry. But, maybe the other positions are important, 'cause there's not alot of SB banners in the Chargers' stadium(s).

[@mitchellmelkin4078]

I would point to the dissolution of the defensive line, as a major factor, if not the preeminent one, in the Chargers' eventual late season collapse, and the beginning of devolvement to mediocrity by 1970. They had been top ranked in the league against the run in '65. They wound up dead last in '66, which is kind of remarkable. I've no doubt that at least two of their losses would have been reversed, if the opposition hadn't been able to move the ball and score so easily, the old fashioned way. Had the value of both Faison and Ladd devalued so much, that their being sent packing to the Oilers in the early off-season after the '65 campaign, was genuinely warranted? Yes, Faison had physical problems and '66 wrapped things up for him, but he still was good enough to have been an All-AFL selection in '65. The fact of the matter is, that through the draft or trades, the Chargers never again came close to having the dominant defensive line personnel afterwards, through the end of Gillman's tenure.

[@mitchellmelkin4078]

@JBSptfn For a league that made its mark in so routinely signing and playing blacks (especially from small schools) since its beginnings, such a decision would have been counter-productive and contradictory, in a sense, as the league, which had been preliminarily considering expansion to New Orleans, essentially shelved those plans after the incident, leaving the city to be locked up by the NFL in 1966.

[@mlbolts72]

This is so cool. Thanks a bunch . Im a charger fan Fun to watch these old hilights . Love ur videos ⚡

[@redsolocup727]

I really enjoy this channel. Thank you for doing such a wonderful job.

[@billmalone5050]

In the very last American Football League game ever played, John Hadl was the winning quarterback in the AFL all star game in January of 1970 after the final AFL season of 1969-70 before its merger with the NFL for the 1970-71 season. He led the AFL West to victory over the AFL East and was the game's most valuable player.

[@bigpebble]

Got to watch a lot of his games in the 60's growing up in Poway. Saw him throw a 50 yd (own 20 to opponents 30) in the air pass to Alworth, had never seen a ball thrown that long before.

[@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture]

You forgot to mention that Rote also played for the Lions and was the starting QB for half the season in 1957 and was the starter for the Lions in the Western Conference playoff game and the NFL Championship, winning the game for what is still the Lions last league championship season. When he guided the Chargers to the 1963 AFL Championship, he became only the second QB (there are currently only 4 [edited from 3 due to an error on my part])to start for two teams to win a league championship. That 1963 Chargers team and its lopsided win in the Championship game is what made people believe the AFL was for real, had the ability to play against NFL teams and made it possible for the Jets to sign Joe Namath to years later due to the TV contract the AFL signed with NBC. That would make a good topic for a video.

[@REALmikegordan]

There are 4 starting QB's. 1. Norm Van Brocklin: 1951 LA Rams and 1960 Philadelphia Eagles 2. Tobin Rote: 1957 Detroit Lions and 1963 San Diego Chargers 3. Peyton Manning: 2006 Indianapolis Colts, and 2015 Denver Broncos 4. Tom Brady: 2001, 2003, 2004, 2014, 2016, 2018 New England Patriots, and 2020 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Brady is the only quarterback to have won more than two championships during his tenure.

[@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture]

@@REALmikegordan I stand corrected. You are correct. And Brady is the first to do so without one of those seasons having a significant amount of time with another QB starting.

[@GetBenched2010]

@@REALmikegordan And Craig Morton lost Super Bowls with 2 teams. Dallas 1970, and Denver 1977.

[@p47rr]

In Green Bay Hadl clashed with coach Bart Starr. Hadl would often change the plays on his own. Which eventually is why he ended up in Houston.

[@gtown044]

Great video. I have a Hadl chargers jersey.

[@CTubeMan]

1. Interesting you had a clip near the end of Hadl shaking hands with Joe Namath. Namath said before Super Bowl 3 that three AFL quarterbacks were better than the Colts’ Earl Morrall, who was named NFL MVP that year. One Namath mentioned was John Hadl. 2. You said switching quarterbacks every game was a recipe for disaster. The unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone that you made a video about teams switching quarterbacks on every play.

[@tedkijeski339]

Nice shot of Bum Phillips at the 7-minute mark.

[@thunderlightning1980]

The 1973 Chargers season needs to be talked about. How Klein found out about the drug usages and such.

[@jbratt]

I remember Hadl having a really good season with the Rams when he was traded there from San Diego. As a kid I really thought the Rams were crazy for trading him after that season. Turns out they got a lot for him from the Packers.

[@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture]

Hadl had a great start but cooled off the second half of the season (13 TD passes, 2 Ints for the first 6 games, 9 TD passes, 9 Ints the rest of the way; he had 5 TD passes, 6 Ints with a 46.1% completion rate for his 6 games with the Rams in 1974). Unfortunately, he shone bright but did a supernova decline with the Rams.

[@jbratt]

@@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture I was not a Ram fan and pretty young at the time so I didn’t follow them very closely. I did remember he was lighting it up.

[@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture]

@@jbratt he indeed was lighting it up. He did help get the Rams on a winning track again. There is no doubt about that.

[@njacobdekelaita6198]

@@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture i think 4 of those TD's were to Harold Jackson in the first half of one game if memory serves.

[@bradleysample3246]

@@GetRidOfCivilAssetForfeiture Then he lost his job to James Harris

[@sg97651]

The reason for the reconciliation probably had to do with the trade of Steve Tensi to the Broncos for multiples 1st round draft choice. The assumption was the defense would improve and Hadl had no competition until the Chargers drafted Marty Domres, then Hadl was back in the yoyo position (he also had arm problems.)

[@jackbidding512]

Lucky to play golf with John a long time ago....he hit the longest drive I've ever seen!

[@Lawomenshoops]

No mention of Lance Alworth? The best WR in the AFL!! It’s not like Hadl was throwing to a bunch of no name WR’s.

[@denisceballos9745]

True - Hadl was throwing to Lance Alworth (19) HOF, Gary Garrison (27), and TE Willie Frazier (83), amongst others- not too shabby.

[@UNUSUALUSERNAME220]

Yeah, I was going to make a comment that almost every TD pass in this video was to Alworth.

[@mitchellmelkin4078]

@@denisceballos9745 Garrison was featured in more than a few of the highlights. I can't say that he's been forgotten, as fans of the game that are truly knowledgeable about its history, should still well be familiar with him. Though distinctly below HOF caliber, he was a fine player who really made his mark in the league, playing nearly the entirety of his career for a team that was basically in a state of continuous decline. Interestingly he was chosen for one of the vignette slots of receivers in the superlative NFL Films feature, Try and Catch the Wind.

[@denisceballos9745]

Mitchell Melkin; You’re right, 58 TDs in only 134 total games, 405 catches for 7538 yards. Pretty close to HOF numbers.

[@CelticBadBoyPoet7]

No Johnny U as a Back-up?

[@levikatriel]

I wonder if you have more videos on the 21st century or before 1970

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

kzbin.info/aero/PLiNoyKuX-mVgG-qSfyPapPn9xCzDcmk6U The History of the NFL playlist has every history video I've made in chronological order of when it took place. As things stand, there's over 25 videos before 1970

[@garyfinch377]

John Hadl passed for more yards than Sonny Jurgensen, John Brodie, and Y.A. Tittle.

[@laurencethornblade1195]

And he threw more picks than touchdowns

[@robertd.7060]

I disagree with YOUR part about HadL NOT being a HOFER ! He is a top 3 AFL ALL -TIME QB . And when he retired , was over 32 , 000 yards + & 200 + TDS & that was also top 5 ALL -TIME in the NFL at that time . John Brodie , Jim Hart & kenny Anderson should been in by now , also , along with a few MORE AFL players that NEVER got there dues !

[@thomaswolf723]

I remember Hadl playing for Kansas 1959-61. In his sophomore season he was strictly a running back. As a pro, mostly in the AFL, Hadl threw for a lot of yards and touchdowns, but he threw more interceptions (268) than touchdown passes (244). His total interceptions were third most in pro football history. His passer rating of 67.4 was nothing special, even for his ere.

[@scottconner7930]

55 Years Ago

[@diaz5292]

God Speed, my good man. God Speed...lol 😀👍

[@stephengrooms2794]

I imagine the trade of Steve Tensi to the Broncos and the Chargers getting a bunch of draft choices for him. Of course Sid screwed it up.

[@Lawomenshoops]

Gilman talks about impulsive nature and he impulsively switches QB very game!!

[@OriginalOne1960]

The Chargers name and logo was created and originated in Los Angeles it’s a Horse charging into battle with a USC L.A.Memorial Coliseum historical connection and Tommy Walker aka”Tommy Trojan”and then owner Barron Hilton. The Chargers name originated from the USC football games and Tommy Walker aka (Tommy Trojan) famous historical Charge chant he created “Da Dah Dah Da“ Charge! “Da Dah Dah Da Trojans Warriors Charge! Tommy Walker then musician /team kicker helped inspire then owner Barron Hilton “R.I.P.” to name the Chargers football team from the famous Charge chant he created as a USC musician band member /team kicker. When Barron Hilton attended the USC football games the previous years as a football fan at the L.A.Coliseum he would hear the Tommy Walker Charge chant. When Tommy Walker would run out to the football field to attempt the extra point kicks as the team kicker the USC team music band would play Tommy’s Charge chant he created as the team musician and the football fans that attended the games would yell out his Charge chant “Da Dah Dah Dah Da” Charge! “Da Dah Dah Da “Trojan Warriors Charge! to motivate him to score the extra point kicks. So that’s where Barron Hilton got inspired and got the idea to name the Los Angeles Chargers football team. The proof is in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo with the horse charging into battle. The Charger is a horse charging into battle. very similar to the USC Trojan Warrior with shield and sword and horse mascot charging on to the field to battle. Hence the horse in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo. The lightning bolt idea came from Barron Hilton liking the Air Force College football team lightning bolt logo as a College football fan. Till this day that famous Charge chant is heard at the game’s and through out many other sporting game events. The Los Angeles Chargers r the true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace and not too many team’s can claim that fact. Rams were born in Cleveland 1936 and Raiders were born in Oakland 1960 And that’s a fact these other teams can’t ever claim. And also the Chargers r the true Southern California NFL team because they have never left Southern California unlike the Cleveland/ST.Louis Rams and the Oakland/Las Vegas Nevada Raiders. Let’s Go Los Angeles Chargers The true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace L.A. Da Da Dah Dah Da Charge!!! ⚡️🐴 🏈 Born in L.A. in 1960 and played their first season ever in Chargers history at the L.A.memorial Coliseum finishing the season with a 10-4 record. Da Da Dah Dah Da Charge!!!!!⚡️🐴 🏈

[@OriginalOne1960]

In 1960 the Los Angeles Chargers win 52-28 vs The Oakland Raiders at the L.A.Coliseum. Then again in 1960 the L.A.Chargers beat the Oakland Raiders at Candlestick stadium in San Francisco. Los Angeles Chargers 41 Oakland Raiders 17 Let’s Go Los Angeles battle Chargers The true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace L.A. Da Da Dah Dah Da Charge!!!!!⚡️🐴 🏈

[@davanmani556]

I can watch John Hadl throw all day in this pandemic.

[@terryhill4732]

When Dianbol didn't work for Gillman he introduced Crack to the team

[@Zoyx]

I was at this game in 1973 when Hadl was the QB for the Rams. The Rams came into Minnesota to play the Vikings... both undefeated at 6-0. A defensive battle, with only about 400 yards between the two teams. Vikings eeked out a victory. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3eskJaod56Dhtk

[@bkkfarang4749]

Sid screwed up the Rams bad in the late 50's. He then did the same to the Chargers when he traded Jack Kemp to the Bills.

[@karlcooper8460]

I didn't know Hadl wasn't a hall of fame he should have been inducted right alongside kenny(snake)stabler Kenny only had 5 real good years 1973-1978.

[@njacobdekelaita6198]

Call up Lance Alworth and Gary Garrison they probably told Gillman to trade them too if they got rid of Hadl. The best passing attack in football When I first started watching football on TV the AFL on NBC had Hadl Namath and Lamonica throwing the football around like maniacs 300 yd passing games were the norm rather than a once a season accomplishment. Loved the AFL pre merger and the Gillman coaching tree for a lifetime.

[@NosferatusCoffin]

Best AFL passing attack. Best NFL passing game was Sonny Jurgensen to Charlie Taylor, Bobby Mitchell and Jerry Smith.

[@osaji922]

They should bring back the AFL since the NFL sucks.

[@redd.whatsnext5765]

Philip Rivers is the greatest SD qb of all time. If Philip had Winslow, Jointer, and Jefferson he would have thrown for 6,000 yards every year! Btw who was Philip throwing to.....Gates? Btw I hate Rivers as a football fan. I'm a Bengal n Buckeye.

[@briankistner4331]

GOD!! STEVE TENSI. One of the worst trades the Denver Broncos ever made.

[@F40PH-2CAT]

Not Hadl or Rivers....Fouts.

[@pavanatanaya]

San Diego has a long history of chasing talent out of town " Go Fudge Yourself San Diego:" Ron Burgundy

[@OriginalOne1960]

Al Davis copied the Los Angeles Chargers 1960 original shield logo. Al Davis was part of the Los Angeles Chargers coaching staff 1960 birth season through 1962. Al Davis then left the Chargers coaching staff in 1962 to become the manager of the Oakland Raiders in 1963. Al Davis obviously copied the the 1960 L.A.Chargers original shield logo and added it to the Oakland Raiders pirate logo in 1963 because coincidentally the original 1960-1962 Oakland born Raiders pirate team logo didn’t have the shield logo in their original birth year of 1960-1962 until Al Davis joined the Oakland Raiders in 1963 then added the shield logo to the pirate logo. Raiders copy cat shield logo but the true Original L.A.born Shield logo is the Original Los Angeles Chargers battle horse shield logo. Da Da Da Da Charge!!! ⚡️🐴 🏈 Let’s Go Los Angeles Chargers! The true original 1960 L.A. born team now back playing in the original birth city L.A. And the true original Southern California NFL team Rams born in Cleveland Ohio played in Cleveland Ohio 10 years and played ST.Louis Missouri 23 years and Raiders born in Oakland played in Oakland 43 years and now play in Nevada. Da Da Da Da Charge!!! ⚡️🐴 🏈

[@stevep8445]

Steve Tennessee? Lol

[@karlcooper8460]

Philip rivers isn't in the conversation keep your crap about his numbers.

[@bleeding4721]

Sorry but Philip Rivers is first

[@Bambino_60]

The adds

[@karlcooper8460]

Johny u was a back-up because he was washed up SD was his last stop.

[@joesmusic7143]

that's a lot of fucking commercials for a 10 minute video. Thanks youbloob!

[@chrishansen1323]

Philip Rivers is the best QB in team history, the fact you even claim Hadl could be 2nd makes it clear you simply have a grudge against Rivers

[@gluserty]

I wasn't born yet before Hadl played, but I know his history & respect the quality of his career. That being said, I'd choose Rivers over Hadl.

[@jamesage24]

Why, because he's more recent?

[@gluserty]

@@jamesage24 No, I just think that Rivers was a better player: accurate (Lance Alworth even said that Hadl wasn't always that accurate), smart, prolific, durable, and reliable. I think Rivers could've played in any era and acquitted himself quite nicely. Hadl had a fine career in his own right, but I just feel that Rivers is on a different level.

[@OriginalOne1960]

The Chargers name and logo was created and originated in Los Angeles it’s a Horse charging into battle with a USC L.A.Memorial Coliseum historical connection and Tommy Walker aka”Tommy Trojan”and then owner Barron Hilton. The Chargers name originated from the USC football games and Tommy Walker aka (Tommy Trojan) famous historical Charge chant he created “Da Dah Dah Da“ Charge! “Da Dah Dah Da Trojans Warriors Charge! Tommy Walker then musician /team kicker helped inspire then owner Barron Hilton “R.I.P.” to name the Chargers football team from the famous Charge chant he created as a USC musician band member /team kicker. When Barron Hilton attended the USC football games the previous years as a football fan at the L.A.Coliseum he would hear the Tommy Walker Charge chant. When Tommy Walker would run out to the football field to attempt the extra point kicks as the team kicker the USC team music band would play Tommy’s Charge chant he created as the team musician and the football fans that attended the games would yell out his Charge chant “Da Dah Dah Dah Da” Charge! “Da Dah Dah Da “Trojan Warriors Charge! to motivate him to score the extra point kicks. So that’s where Barron Hilton got inspired and got the idea to name the Los Angeles Chargers football team. The proof is in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo with the horse charging into battle. The Charger is a horse charging into battle. very similar to the USC Trojan Warrior with shield and sword and horse mascot charging on to the field to battle. Hence the horse in the Chargers 1960 original shield logo. The lightning bolt idea came from Barron Hilton liking the Air Force College football team lightning bolt logo as a College football fan. Till this day that famous Charge chant is heard at the game’s and through out many other sporting game events. The Los Angeles Chargers r the true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace and not too many team’s can claim that fact. Rams were born in Cleveland 1936 and Raiders were born in Oakland 1960 And that’s a fact these other teams can’t ever claim. And also the Chargers r the true Southern California NFL team because they have never left Southern California unlike the Cleveland/ST.Louis Rams and the Oakland/Las Vegas Nevada Raiders. Let’s Go Los Angeles Chargers The true original L.A. born team now back playing in the original birthplace L.A. Da Da Dah Dah Da Charge!!! ⚡️🐴 🏈 Born in L.A. in 1960 and played their first season ever in Chargers history at the L.A.memorial Coliseum finishing the season with a 10-4 record. Da Da Dah Dah Da Charge!!! …⚡️🐴 🏈