The Controversy that Cost Manti Te'o His Career | 2 PROS AND A CUP OF JOE

2 PROS AND A CUP OF JOE - Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and LaVar Arrington react to the premiere of the Manti Te'o documentary looking back at the controversy surrounding him in 2012 and the 'girlfriend hoax.'
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[@corning1]

I feel so bad for this dude. This went so deep and really did kill his career, and ultimately his man hood. He did become the butt of all jokes. That other person should go to prison. How evil.

[@slamandjam2]

I wouldn't say ultimately his manhood. Everyone can see that he did nothing wrong now. And he's married to a beautiful woman. But yes, it definitely cost him what should have been a stellar NFL career. And I agree that piece of sh*t should be rotting in jail

[@Avarice-Zero]

I think it's amazing we criticize a guy for getting lied to when we have a whole series dedicated to people getting lied to called "Catfish". It's not some one in a million situation. We have a whole word created to describe what happened and this also happened before people even had an idea of how to explain it. He just got catfished, simple as that. Chill out with the insults and calling him stupid. I bet some of you in the comments have been catfished and don't want to admit it. Lol

[@DavidLee-vp3nr]

someone thought they were in a relationship with BOW WOW lmao they are stupid

[@craigjohnson4437]

Yea that’s werid how are they so worried about another man’s relationship is sickening

[@DavidLee-vp3nr]

@@craigjohnson4437 how is that wierd?? they just did a whole netflix special on his catfish relationship. Of course, people are going to talk about it

[@youngmaster4892]

You really believe that lie ? Lol

[@youngmaster4892]

@@craigjohnson4437 … what’s weird is he’s needs come out closet

[@RG-nw6kr]

he was isolated from his culture and he was a strict church kid too so he clung to familiarity. And it wasn't 3 straight years they were talking on and off but that last year especially when he was struggling. On a side note, y'all find it odd that he fell for that, meanwhile a lot of professional, experienced, well educated people fell for " a white man w/a smile " when it came to Bernie Madoff.

[@jubei187]

Absolutely. Kevin Bacon and his wife Kyra Sedgwick were completely broke after Madoff. Steve Harvey, KG and Tim Duncan were conned by their accountants. People get fooled everyday and do lose their livelihood because of it

[@corning1]

Like you said he was a devout man. I’m sure women were throwing themselves at him at ND. He was in a situation with alpha men in the locker room in the end and I don’t think anyone respected him, just laughed behind his back. Which is very sad because I find it very admirable his choice to wait for marriage. The vast majority do not though.

[@UFOCurrents]

Dudes... He was a teenager, heavily religious, and had a long distance thang with a picture of a hotty! And he did try to meet her repeatedly. SO STOP ALREADY!!

[@bstowe3000]

After how long ?

[@jaahnnn]

Lmao he wasn't a teenager tho

[@MegzLife]

1) he's religious! 2) Polynesians stick together, that is why he found comfort in lennay kekua! 3) he was focused & busy w/football & school, etc.. 4)it was a long distance relationship 5)he believed Lennay was a real girl ..also another thing..if u were in a situation like Manti, who loves big...& ur serious significant dies with also ur grandma, the same day. Of course ur gonna wanna honor their deaths! so what title do u think she should have?! cuz obviously, she wasn't a friend but more than that! cuz thats how he was gonna honor their deaths & inspire people, of why he plays football so well. Cuz he played with a purpose. of course he was serious with this Lennay kekua, so he proudly gave her the title of girlfriend, in honor of her death! Plus he was naive, gullible & too trusting..thats what made him fall for this catfish. sheesh! He was a victim, remember that! alot of people owe him an apology!! smdh

[@drich8806]

Just saw his actual wife. He looks to be doing just fine now.

[@youngmaster4892]

That’s his Beard

[@Mantus77]

Yeah. Better than these haters 🤣

[@jerryb5631]

This is tough. It happens everywhere, every day. "CATFISHING" has ruined thousands of people's lives. If there's anything positive out of this it's that this situation made people wake up to these evil people doing this.

[@Queenofpentacles1]

He was child ! He got manipulated…. That Naya was evil

[@jenifersantinole]

He shouldn’t have lied and gone with the lie. Cried on tv, cried at the heisman. This is what happens to people with victim cred

[@Dkirk215]

Hey we all learn from our mistakes he’s married with a family now very sad situation and it can happen to anyone thus knowing the show catfish he’s the victim regardless of how crazy or funny we think it may seem I give him credit for telling his story to the world and being able to be honest takes a man to do that

[@H2DaOhhVee]

When some people speak on Manti, it’s almost as if they forget that he’s a VICTIM in this situation smh!! So the whole “everybody’s playing the violin for Manti Te’o” is so unnecessary!! Granted, claiming a woman to be your girlfriend but you’ve never met her is ODD & beyond most people’s understanding but from what I saw watching that Doc on Netflix, Manti cared so much & had a big heart that it made him naive to a certain extent!!

[@youngmaster4892]

Facts . I think he’s gay and needs come out of closet

[@kjb200814]

Okay I’ll give him maybe a week or 2 weeks to not have actually seen this “woman” but to develop an entire relationship without actually seeing this person in the flesh or through FaceTime is a bit much. I don’t think anyone should be that gullible

[@youngmaster4892]

@@kjb200814 ..agree

[@H2DaOhhVee]

@@kjb200814 people have been gullible about ALOT less lol

[@Zbot404]

@@H2DaOhhVee meaning what?

[@Dkirk215]

The person who even created the profile is very sick minded in a world today they would be in jail or trial for bullying or causing harm so they lucked out major

[@df6148]

This castrated his career. Not even trying to be funny. Literally all ALPHA dog got snipped and he was seen as the ULTIMATE beta.

[@spenser6353]

He wasn’t that talented

[@df6148]

@@spenser6353 he doesn’t need to be. He was an undersized mid speed player that played off instincts, ability, leadership and CONFIDENCE. Teddy Bruschi of the patriots is who he reminds me of. Take away his confidence and down goes his leadership AND ability. Being great means making those around you better. But you yourself need to believe. He could’ve been a Teddy Brushchi/Jr Seau hybrid style Linebacker. Would’ve been a great fit for the patriots.

[@spenser6353]

@@df6148 the football field should of been his sanctuary. Athletes usually use the field of play to forget their problems off the field. For him I guess it must of the been the opposite if the catfish incident derailed his career

[@df6148]

@@spenser6353 definitely. Turned his biggest strength into his biggest weakness and humbled him. Ultimately it was his own fault but I’m sure he’s learned from it now. He’s moved on and is doing well. It’s good that he’s talking about it.

[@1ZosoLZ]

I’m 29 and feel old I still remember the memes on this like it was yesterday

[@adriankendrick4281]

MTV had a series called "Catfish" around the time of the Manti Teo situation so it wasn't a uncommon thing. Being fooled by someone online happens all the time.

[@michaelwiley5889]

One of the first indicators of the hell that the internet would unleash

[@FANTASYBOOKING69]

He fell for the "hawaiian voice"

[@Satch-hl1wb]

You can only accuse this man of being unconscionably naive. You have to know how he was raised in a closed environment to understand how unsophisticated he may have been. He was tarred and feathered publically, for the whole world to see. That is a punishment, for many, worse than death. He then suffered from anxiety and depression that derailed his career. When the mind is occupied, and seized by negative impulses, the body fills with cortisol, which limits movement. That is a death sentence for an athlete. Just look at the Championship game vs. Alabama following the outing of the scandal. He spent the game on his back as if he was paralyzed. Because he was.

[@ha4b635]

I don't understand how Manti and his situation became public. I was really confused by the whole thing??

[@jaahnnn]

He ran with it to boost his Heisman campaign and it backfired horribly....or did it?

[@frankwithya]

Every individual is different but we've all been naive before right 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@shawnkemp7781]

Not like this bout these 💁‍♀️🤣🤣

[@frankwithya]

@@shawnkemp7781 🤣🤣💀 respect

[@frankwithya]

@@shawnkemp7781 I was reading too deep then, my bad 😅

[@ep9691]

Manti Te'o should sue Deadspin for publishing something too early and without all the facts.

[@h.b.9879]

Ummmm I doubt the catfish impacted the success of his career. Dude was an average 2-down Lb with limited agility

[@randomguyspeaks4225]

Lavar literally mentions in the video how it affected it his career. Maybe you watched a different video man.

[@H2DaOhhVee]

The catfish literally changed the trajectory of his career for the worst!! Think about how that affected him MENTALLY…

[@spenser6353]

@@H2DaOhhVee he wasn’t that dude

[@H2DaOhhVee]

@@spenser6353 the stats pre-injury says different especially in 2015

[@spenser6353]

@@H2DaOhhVee another overrated notre dame player

[@Cedsworld]

Why are y’all still questioning him still? He told his truth. He was young and gullible. Plus it was 10 years ago. Everything was not as accessible to us as they are now.

[@yodon6867]

Two things he messed up on. He should have left his junior year in Notre Dame. Second he should have never went to Notre Dame and went to USC he would have found that she was it was a catfish

[@themoneyman1752]

Brady is right he should sue dead spin or somebody and try to get that money back that he didn’t make in the NFL, he played 8yrs & made 10mill, if he would have got drafted in the 1st rd there’s no tellin the millions on millions he would have made, im think at least over 50million

[@3ddiagnosis654]

That was cruel of that individual too go the length he/she decided to go with that foolishness. Remember the talk show when a gay guy took a straight guy on and got killed when they went back home? Homie didn't play dat!

[@lkrauss100]

I don’t understand what people think Deadspin did wrong. They broke the story and got the details right as far as I can tell.

[@jaredgarrison333]

Agreed

[@DaDefense08]

Think why people are mad cause it kinda ruined Manti rep and not the I care but the catfisher rep and was only supposed to make ESPN look stupid

[@Jates]

Cause they said Te’o WAS IN ON IT. They said she wasn’t real , which was true, AND that Te’o was in on it because he was texting a man and going on tv saying that person he loved died after receiving a phone call saying “ nah she ain’t dead”

[@lkrauss100]

@@Jates actually the article doesn’t say “for sure he was in on it,” it just says some friends of Te’o’s think he had to be in on it because of so many falsehoods about the girlfriend. “The sheer quantity of falsehoods about Manti's relationship with Lennay makes that friend, and another relative of Ronaiah's, believe Te'o had to know the truth.” It’s called quoting and attributing thoughts to someone else and they are allowed to do that, it doesn’t mean they are saying “we know for sure he was in on it.”

[@nikm4253]

Oh God this happened 10 years ago. It's water under the bridge but Netflix gonna Netflix.

[@blockraven22]

Until the documentary I last remembered him as that fake liar attention seeking guy. Then I watched the documentary realized how wrong I was for 10 years. It’s good to expose these things.

[@Jamac007]

Netflix setting things straight...and thank god...the world owes him An apology

[@jamesbingham1007]

The phrase, "lost millions of dollars"... And, isn't he living in a badass house with an instagram model? Just Sayin'

[@laserglider]

Bad take 👎🏾

[@jamesbingham1007]

@@laserglider I thought it was a Hot Take.

[@ebabz2102]

Guys are acting like catfishing was like it is today. No one expected that at the time with online/ long distance dating. Plus it was elaborate, the catfisher created a family that even contacted his parents. It was evil.

[@coleworld904]

I think the issue is most of us think a tall, athletic full ride football player has to make up a girlfriend especially at Notre Dame. There is no need because he should be swimming in psleeve

[@rawdawgerssportscast2782]

Yeah we talked about this on the podcast that “dude” was a complete pos and tht doc made it seem like he/she was an ok person

[@openomniverse446]

This is my absolute favorite sports podcast and it's not even close. It makes all the other regulars look like morons.

[@bigwaidave4865]

This kind of scam continues to this very day especially with regard to old guys and young girls in Southeast Asia. If you have s dad who all of a sudden has a young girl interested in marrying him because they find him handsome throw his laptop or computer out the window

[@Kingxvinny330]

He woulda been a bigger star had this not happened

[@deekay1310]

you can tell yall never watched the doc....but i dont expect intelligent people on this channel

[@ryanhollinsbwood1787]

Am I the only one who doesn’t feel bad? How do you date a “woman” that long and not ask to FaceTime????

[@ep9691]

did you not watch the documentary? he did ask to FaceTime..

[@jtiger1062]

Great discussion ….

[@IBuyIReview]

This isn’t on DEADSPIN cmon now

[@Kev_-qm1je]

To be fair he wasn't that good in the NFL, he was nice outta College tho, but they was saying he was pose to be the next Ray Lewis coming out if Norte Dame hahaha

[@MIGGYME1]

Cost him his career? Didnt homie have a lousy pro day? Had he went to a SEC school instead pf notre dame......he prolly would have been exposed long before the draft

[@jaahnnn]

Thank you!!!! It's so obvious that he and notre dame rode this thing out because it was clearly beneficial to him and the program

[@Mantus77]

Pretty sure the show “CATFISH” was created from his experience being catfished!!

[@EJD339]

It’s definitely funny but the way people mocked him relentlessly was just stupid. Men and women basically catfish other r people by posting photos of themselves much skinner. I’m going bald and I make sure to show that on my dating app because I don’t want to fool anyone because it’s a waste of both our time. I met some girl who looked great in photos and met her and she was like 50 pounds heavier. Nothing wrong with being heavy but if you’re lying from the start, then we won’t work out.

[@dejohnthabeast]

Did he really go that long 💀

[@CliffReeds]

Jonah's take is awful. This is the only thing he will be known for.

[@dolanduck7511]

Te'o is a great college player but he kinda sucked in the NFL and it had nothing to do with the catfish story

[@Jates]

It did tho, it rocked him mentally and threw his decision making off. Plus his reputation was ruined as that Loomed all the way over and everyone thought of him in a negative way.

[@slimischillin7753]

Even still... Cmon son

[@Mantus77]

Bruh, yous talk like you KNOW him lol make comments when you actually find out his story. Bloody hell zzz

[@colinreddick4250]

For those who are making excuses for Teo, do y'all forget he WAS ONE OF THE NEXT COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYERS IN THE NATION BRUH BRUH. You know how many real life snow bunnies he was paying over in South Bend had to be astronomical.

[@joes3844]

Brady Quinn is a joke

[@quintinmcneil7467]

First

[@youngmaster4892]

He’s needs come out of closet already 😆

[@Jamac007]

You're about 10 years too late