The COOLEST way to cut leg tapers!

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Stumpy Nubs

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@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 жыл бұрын
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@akbychoice
@akbychoice 5 жыл бұрын
Stumpy Nubs how are these for noise isolation on airplanes?
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 жыл бұрын
I know folks buy them specifically for that purpose.
@JeffSolenberg
@JeffSolenberg 5 жыл бұрын
I caught this at Chuck's presentation at the Indianapolis Woodworking Show last month. I will admit that at first glance it seemed a bit complicated but when you stop to think about it, it requires no jigs, there aren't really that many steps and each step takes only seconds, every leg you do will come out identical, and, very little sanding will be necessary when you're done; I think this is an excellent tip. Thank you James and Chuck!
@C_L_Thomas
@C_L_Thomas 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. I could really mess that up.
@kentturkow1572
@kentturkow1572 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Always like to see new ideas. There would be less sanding that way. Thanks for sharing. Keep the videos coming.
@waltersaj11
@waltersaj11 3 жыл бұрын
Why would there be less sanding?
@markshipley560
@markshipley560 2 жыл бұрын
@@waltersaj11 Because a jointer typically makes a cleaner cut than a table saw
@4SafetyTraining
@4SafetyTraining 5 жыл бұрын
Always worth the time when you post some thing, Thanks
@mikeemmons1844
@mikeemmons1844 4 жыл бұрын
I just tried this out. Amazing. Perfect results
@philippeterson9512
@philippeterson9512 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing this for years. I call it “popping a wheelie” on the jointer. Here’s another hint. If you think your depth of cut is too much, divide the length by 3 or 4 instead of two. Do the first pass just like shown (except stop at the 1/3 or 1/4 mark), thorn it around and make the remaining passes.
@teacher_of_the_arcane5399
@teacher_of_the_arcane5399 5 жыл бұрын
7-29-19 .... Just came in from the shop where I used this technique to taper a set of table legs. My jointer table wouldn't lower to 11/16 inch cut that was needed for the initial passes, but the end product (the foot of the leg) was only 3/32 wider than I wanted. End result was a success !! Thanks so much !
@Faustustopheles
@Faustustopheles 5 жыл бұрын
Wow.... That's awesome...
@rona1144
@rona1144 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video I have seen so far on this. I have a double taper leg to make on the jointer I inherited. I like this method better than others I seen. We put a large quartz slab on our dining room table, I have a 4x4 giving support in the middle, effective but not ascetic.
@johnbabbin6489
@johnbabbin6489 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't figure out to do this with my equipment and jigs . AWESOME tip . Many thanks
@alanlillich6738
@alanlillich6738 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for yet another great tip. Two suggestions to make the setup faster and safer. The depth of cut is 1/4 the difference between the leg width at the top and bottom. (Half the difference on each side, half of that for the jointer cut.) Use your combo square tip to set that directly with the machine off. With the machine also off, roll the cutter head to get the start of cut - it won't matter if you're off by a tiny fraction.
@heystarfish100
@heystarfish100 5 жыл бұрын
I had heard about using the jointer for tapering legs decades ago. First time I’ve seen it done. Thank you James, I will have to give it a try.
@thomasklink3766
@thomasklink3766 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty slick, great tip.
@MD-en3zm
@MD-en3zm Жыл бұрын
Fascinating - I’ve never seen this done before.
@grizzly22485
@grizzly22485 5 жыл бұрын
Followed for years. Always fun, always interesting.
@Chresmologue
@Chresmologue 5 жыл бұрын
I'd spotted that article of Chuck Bender's earlier, but it wasn't quite clear to me what he was doing. Your explanation is perfectly lucid -- thanks! I have some doubts about the procedure, but I certainly intend to give it a try and see how it goes.
@williamellis8993
@williamellis8993 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea and technique.
@Gethin_Duggan
@Gethin_Duggan 5 жыл бұрын
Impressed by this. At the beginning of the video I was sceptical but I was pleasantly surprised.
@kevinbowker2385
@kevinbowker2385 5 жыл бұрын
I won't use this but I REALLY enjoyed seeing it. Thanks for sharing this, James!
@sateeshum394
@sateeshum394 Жыл бұрын
always best to check the surfacer as the dull blades can do more damage in such deep cuts, feed rate and be safe on small length legs. sure is a great way to make taper legs and love this method...
@rrrlalatimmy
@rrrlalatimmy 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip! I always knew there was a slick way to do it this way
@Chef_PC
@Chef_PC 5 жыл бұрын
Always up for more techniques to add to the info bucket. This may not be for everybody, but it’s good to know there are multiple ways to do something in case you can’t accomplish it the one way you know how.
@TaylerMade
@TaylerMade 5 жыл бұрын
that's how i was trained many years ago. works well and if you are batching them out it is quicker than having to mount in a jig each time.
@glencrandall7051
@glencrandall7051 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting procedure. Thank you for sharing.
@osvaldocristo
@osvaldocristo 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@joycemiller4716
@joycemiller4716 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea making a stool at the moment for a customer will be using this tip oh I always have a look to see what you’re up to nice new shop love from England
@driesvanoosten4417
@driesvanoosten4417 5 жыл бұрын
That is an impressive depth of cut, especially for such a figured wood. Surprising that it gives a proper surface finisn...
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea, now I’m gonna have to buy a jointer.
@joeymerrell8585
@joeymerrell8585 5 жыл бұрын
Just got mine. 8"jet helical head. Just a tip, have them bring it in the shop if you can, or have something that can move it. I'm sure I'll enjoy mine after the hernia surgery...
@gregmislick1117
@gregmislick1117 5 жыл бұрын
@@joeymerrell8585 shop is in the basement with old uneven granite steps down and a crazy maze around the chimney after you finish falling in. .... I guess I'll have to stay with the crude tapering jig and that bohemian 10" saw blade. ....once I finish knapping out new chisel s..... Enjoy your new toy !!!
@GeorgeSA5
@GeorgeSA5 5 жыл бұрын
And not just a cheap jointer either :))))
@joeymerrell8585
@joeymerrell8585 5 жыл бұрын
@@gregmislick1117 hey boss, if you can make something with it, and enjoy it, it's a good tool. Keep the blades spinning...and your digits on your hand.
@hassanal-mosawi6049
@hassanal-mosawi6049 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that
@dscraft6358
@dscraft6358 5 жыл бұрын
That's a really cool trick. Thanks for sharing. I have to try that out in my upcoming projects I had not seen that before :)
@philipcatuogno2968
@philipcatuogno2968 Жыл бұрын
Cut on the table saw and one or two passes on the jointer to clean up the cut.
@kiwdwks
@kiwdwks 3 жыл бұрын
So awesome...thank you!
@joycemiller4716
@joycemiller4716 4 жыл бұрын
Just tried it works great 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿👍
@johnaurand4090
@johnaurand4090 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that is one that I couldn't do.
@brainfornothing
@brainfornothing 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if is better or not, but this is very clever ! Also, you can brag in front of your friends, Hehehe ! Thanks for sharing !
@root1657
@root1657 5 жыл бұрын
So with a router table being similar to a joiner flipped sideways when a straight bit is installed, I think this would also work on the joiner, if you flip all the instructions sideways (imagine the video was filmed from above) and go slow with the cut. (all of this assumes you are using a split fence to have the same outfeed support as the split joiner table.)
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 жыл бұрын
I was think the same thing. Might do a followup on it.
@GeorgeSA5
@GeorgeSA5 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Looks like you would need an industrial quality jointer for that though.
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 жыл бұрын
He's using a small one in the video.
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 жыл бұрын
@@ricos1497 - The worst that can happen is it will bog down and stall the machine if it's underpowered.
@chemcody5119
@chemcody5119 5 жыл бұрын
That would scare the piss out of me!
@hawkeye10100
@hawkeye10100 5 жыл бұрын
I looked into getting some ISO earbuds but I don't have a smartphone. The earbuds sound like a good idea.
@jasondoust4935
@jasondoust4935 3 жыл бұрын
Is that Rock Maple he's doing that with..? We have some cranky grained tough old hardwoods in Australia and the Pacific so I'm wondering if this would still be a wise idea on figured Redgum, Blackbutt, Jarrah, Merbau or the like.
@vincepresto759
@vincepresto759 5 жыл бұрын
That’s Pretty Slick ! Thx’s
@11211lcb
@11211lcb 5 жыл бұрын
I have always heard that it could be done and Now I have seen it done. The only word of caution I would add is to be careful with drain direction, you could have some nasty tear out. I personally use my track saw to taper legs, quick and easy.
@CarlosGlatzos976
@CarlosGlatzos976 5 жыл бұрын
Great tip, but only if you have an industrial grade jointer at hand. 1/2 inch depth of cut, holy moly! My more "diyish" chinese import jointer has max depth of cut of 3 mm (0.11"), which leaves a really small taper :-) But I love to see how professionals do things anyway so thanks for sharing - I will now remeber this forever and start to search for an used big ass jointer now, he he. Cheers!
@rudyschwab7709
@rudyschwab7709 3 жыл бұрын
The first question I had after seeing this was, "How in the hell did he figure out how to do this?" That is a mind working at a whole other level than the the one we are on.
@K31swiss
@K31swiss 3 жыл бұрын
Trickanometry
@johnlabbe6433
@johnlabbe6433 5 жыл бұрын
As I recall, Kelly Mahler used a jointer to taper the legs in his video on making a Shaker table. I think that Kelly made a series of increasingly longer cuts so his technique was a little different. Still, all he had to do following those cuts was to make a couple passes with a smoothing plane and the legs were ready for construction and finishing.
@CASHU2400
@CASHU2400 5 жыл бұрын
Mind blown!!
@HyperactiveNeuron
@HyperactiveNeuron 4 жыл бұрын
That's just genius.
@barryirby8609
@barryirby8609 5 жыл бұрын
I have seen this method before, years ago. It seems to me that the first cut, 3/8" straight into end grain, would be very likely to cause tearout. Not to mention hard on the jointer. I have done it by setting the jointer to 3/8", setting the midline one the cutter with the thin end trailing, this creates a taper that is half length and half depth. Now set the top line on the cutter and make a second pass. Do this on each tapered side. This method puts the cutter cutting out of the grain rather than into it. I find it to be a bit tedious and uncertain. I still like to cut them with a tapering jig on the Table saw and clean them up with either the jointer or a sander.
@AKendall808
@AKendall808 5 жыл бұрын
The thing about this technique is that if you should have something misaligned or slightly off measurement and you make that full cut only to find that things aren't quite what they should be... you've just cut away your reference surfaces and there is no way to "sneak up" on your line. I agree, the method is very interesting and ingenious but I'll stick to the tablesaw/bandsaw.
@acanthuscarver
@acanthuscarver 5 жыл бұрын
Artie, This entire method is based on you being able to divide two numbers in half - the total amount of taper, and the total length of the taper. If you're worried about getting it right, make sure you mill an extra leg (could be out of a cheaper material) and give it a try. There's no need to "sneak" up on the line if the math is correct.
@lacarpenter31
@lacarpenter31 3 жыл бұрын
WOW!! 👍👍
@koolkid1234ism
@koolkid1234ism 4 жыл бұрын
i have an 8" jointer and was wondering if there was a way to use it for 12" tapers?
@huwdavies5264
@huwdavies5264 5 жыл бұрын
Hi James, If I had not just seen that with my own eyes I would have said it was impossible and dangerous to do that on a planer. Amazing and well explained. Cheers, Huw
@WoodenItBeNice
@WoodenItBeNice 3 жыл бұрын
@@louiswarmoth7354 👍
@dspectre
@dspectre 5 жыл бұрын
So now what am I supposed to do with the new taper jig I got for Christmas?
@akbychoice
@akbychoice 5 жыл бұрын
Don St. Esprit 😂
@root1657
@root1657 5 жыл бұрын
send it to my house, I'll store it for you.... and test it from time to time to make sure it still works.
@mikecurtin9831
@mikecurtin9831 5 жыл бұрын
A pretty slick tip. Definitely a useful thing to add to my bag of tricks. (Refer to Felix the Cat.) Thanks much.
@neonjoe529
@neonjoe529 5 жыл бұрын
My question is... how in the world did that occur to him? :)
@toddweller
@toddweller 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that same thing! It's cool though!
@gregmislick1117
@gregmislick1117 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff
@SteveFrenchWoodNStuff 5 жыл бұрын
It's a trick that's been around for a long time. I'm sure he learned it through the grapevine, like you just did.
@acanthuscarver
@acanthuscarver 5 жыл бұрын
I was taught the technique years ago, like nearly all the woodworking techniques I employ.
@almostben
@almostben 5 жыл бұрын
When he says “pivot it down at the foot”, is he lowering the leg onto the blade? How do you get the alignment right?
@JOHNHOANSHELT
@JOHNHOANSHELT 5 жыл бұрын
I just use the table saw jig and then clean up after on the jounter
@toddburnim9198
@toddburnim9198 5 жыл бұрын
How do you prevent tare out with figured wood?
@marshallmurrell4583
@marshallmurrell4583 5 жыл бұрын
Since I don't have a jointer, I will stick with my tapering jig, which seems a lot less fussy to set up anyway.
@jandrewmore
@jandrewmore 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like a good trick, but this seems like it's going to be limited on some jointers with smaller motors to a pretty shallow cut. The Grizzly G0490X with a 3 HP motor only suggests a max of 1/8" of an inch. Is this a serious limitation? I must admit I haven't made many tapered legs.
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 жыл бұрын
That wasn't a very big jointer he was using in the video. The max cut recommendation is for boards of the full width of the jointer. Legs are much narrower.
@jandrewmore
@jandrewmore 5 жыл бұрын
@@StumpyNubs Good point, thanks. Keep up the good work!
@jeffstanley4593
@jeffstanley4593 5 жыл бұрын
I do not see the superiority to a taper jig on a table saw but I am certainly not much of a woodworker.
@jasonmeyer8877
@jasonmeyer8877 5 жыл бұрын
Some of the advantages of the jointer are no saw kerf to sand and crisper straighter edges.
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 5 жыл бұрын
Cool tip. Seems a little scary. If I had a jointer, I think I'd use my tablesaw anyway, but cut it a skosh fat, then take a light cut on the jointer. Since I don't have a jointer, and wouldn't have room for one anyway, the point is moot for me. Back to the scraper...
@jtotheb-ip2hh
@jtotheb-ip2hh 5 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on that one! I have seen this done a different way on the jointer and this one seemed slightly less scary. Ah well, since i don't have a jointer, no worries!
@MulloyDIY
@MulloyDIY 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of knowledge and skill that separates true professionals from decent hobbyists like me.
@alcanobeeone7420
@alcanobeeone7420 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, so much that I tried buying some plans to support you. But since I was only able to download one of the two purchases, AND never got a response to my questions on how to get the second set I paid for I’ll never be buying anything from your site or any of your sponsors. I work to hard for my money to be giving it away. Sorry!
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 жыл бұрын
I answer every email from someone with a download issue. Let me look and see when you emailed. What's your email address?
@FearsomeWarrior
@FearsomeWarrior 5 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking I would run it through the planer after I cut it anyway so why not do it all on the jointer. I’ve seen it done a few different ways on the jointer.
@mikereslie3389
@mikereslie3389 5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me that he only removed the blade guard for the video. This looks exceedingly dangerous the way it was filmed.
@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs 5 жыл бұрын
Of course.
@whosaidthat5236
@whosaidthat5236 5 жыл бұрын
Errr I think I will stick to square legs
@johndavidson2365
@johndavidson2365 5 жыл бұрын
Meh
@js8039
@js8039 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously? All that for a taper. Sad.
@fatsmile77
@fatsmile77 5 жыл бұрын
J S No Kidding!! Say bye bye to jointer blade!!
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