The Coronation Ceremony - The Recognition and Oath

[@donnalayton6876]

As always an excellent lesson. Thank you.

[@christinewells-leddon9287]

Thank you. It was wonderful (as always).

[@elizabethdibble5159]

I will be watching the upcoming coronation with more understanding. Thank you.

[@meyrickkretschmer260]

The similarity between the sacrament of ordination and the sacrament of coronation is quite amazing!

[@dariusclovis1374]

Actually, the king, having been anointed with Holy Oil, is a deacon participating in the Holy Priesthood of Our Blessed Lord. However, England having fallen from the Catholic Faith & with it, the Monarchy, this no longer applies. I even doubt that the Oils have been validly consecrated.

[@dariusclovis1374]

For this reason he wears a deaconate-tunic vestment.

[@a.t.c.3862]

​@@dariusclovis1374 They were consecrated by the Greek Patriarch of Jerusalem, so I would say 'yes'.

[@dariusclovis1374]

@@a.t.c.3862 Thank you for responding. Very interesting, very interesting indeed.

[@epicemuchilz]

@@dariusclovis1374 here's a video of the oil for the coronation being consecrated: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZbEqHWEqadreKc

[@lindahumphreys9757]

Thanks so much for showing and telling us what happens. I’m an American and I find all of this so fascinating.

[@trevormegson7583]

I'm English and it was enlightening to me too.

[@allanbarton]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

[@roycobb8268]

This very interesting and fascinating! I'm a proud, black Christian man who has lived in the United States all my life! But I've been a big fan of the royal family for years. I wish the new King Charles lll 👑, Queen Camilla and the entire United Kingdom the very best of blessings from God!

[@CharlotteinWeimar]

You have found the right channel as Allan Barton is by far the best and most well informed tutor!

[@janeknight3597]

Thank you so much for the time you are taking with this series. I will certainly be praying for the King. Such an ordeal.

[@stepps511]

Thank you, Allan, for clarifying these various elements of the coronation ritual. While knowing the "fact" of them, it is so helpful to know the "why" of these elements. I look forward to further enlightening.

[@lindymcbroom953]

Thank you so much for this I Love your "Coronation Series" I cannot wait for the next one .

[@allanbarton]

You're welcome, glad you're enjoying the series!

[@emmanuelsalvadorenriquez4893]

Very interesting 🤔

[@carmenfoster6912]

Dr.Barton you are the expert on these very intricate and interesting facts regarding not only the coronation but history at large! I enjoy and look forward to each of your broadcasts! Thank you for caring enough to enlighten us on all the historical Royal facts and British customs at large!❤

[@allanbarton]

I am very much enjoying being able to do something with the accumulations of years of going down historical rabbit holes! I'm thrilled it's so well appreciated and reaching such an interested audience. It's great to know you're enjoying my videos so much 😊.

[@ianport2185]

As regards the recognition its likely its a hangover from the Anglo-Saxon election of a throne worthy son to the throne. The 'so be it' would've been dropped as primogeniture became established during the middle ages - but that election was never inevitable. Like you say the gradual development of the coronation is remarkable and why it remains relevant.

[@nurmaybooba]

Thank-you, I am really looking forward to the Coronation, it is a part of history in the making....I feel I will understand the whole thing with all your tutoring.

[@allanbarton]

Glad you're finding this series helpful, thanks for watching!

[@roycobb8268]

I'm American too Linda Humphrey! As you may have seen on my previous post! It's interesting and fascinating! And what a wonderful, awesome, extraordinary and beautiful thing it is!

[@bobbibuttons8730]

Superb as ever Allan. I am so glad that I discovered your channel at the beginning and also that I’ve subscribed to the Antiquary. What a wonderful magazine it is.

[@allanbarton]

Thank you very much, I'm so glad you're enjoying my work!

[@davisd_ambly4067]

A brilliant series!

[@allanbarton]

Glad you're enjoying it Davis.

[@possumintheblossom]

Thanks for this series of videos. I will get so much more out of watching the coronation now that i have an understanding of it.

[@allanbarton]

You're very welcome!

[@nadiabrook7871]

Another EXCELLENT video, Allan!!❤👍💗

[@allanbarton]

Glad you enjoyed it 😊

[@pimperneldog]

Thank you so much for this insight, Allan. It's a fascinating subject, as you say, I think because the Oath is a moving target, having to adapt to the times, both political and geographical. David Starkey has said a lot on this recently, including uploads to KZbin, and got pretty hot under the collar that the specific and legislated reference to parliamentary government post-Glorious Revolution has become emasculated into 'their respective laws and customs'. But then, Starkey falls flat on his face by saying Charles III isn't being crowned King of Canada, etc, which, of course, he is!

[@ludovica8221]

Excellent clear and interesting as always

[@allanbarton]

Glad it was helpful!

[@adrianwillis2875]

Thanks that was interesting. David Starkey has done a brilliant video on the intricacies of the Oath and the changes proposed almost at each accession.

[@tygetygetyge]

Thank you, I just found it.

[@epicemuchilz]

Thank you for another fascinating video.

[@allanbarton]

My pleasure, thanks for watching!

[@sweptashore]

Surprise! 😉 Henry VIII attempted to rewrite the oath. I love that the document which received a "thanks, no, we *won't* be doing that" reaction has been preserved.

[@scottmccarter861]

wonderful. your description of the Oath was perfect. In 1953 the Archbishop read out the names of the Nations over which Queen Elizabeth II reigned individually. Will Archbishop do that this time given that their are 14 nations to read out?

[@NWRCB]

I would say yes; what basis would there be to read out some and omit others?

[@vibraphonics]

It would be great to have a video on the historical importance of the Coronation music. As the sovereign enters the Abbey a setting of Psalm 122 (I was glad) is sung. Since 1902 this has been the setting by Parry which incorporates the acclamations "Vivat Regina" and "Vivat Rex" sung by the King's Scholars of Westminster School, who have the right to be the first commoners to acclaim the new sovereign at their Coronation.

[@michaelamos4651]

Very informative. Thankyou

[@allanbarton]

Glad it was helpful!

[@EllenCFarmGirl]

Love the Details ❤

[@allanbarton]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@educanassa100]

Thank you,Allan

[@allanbarton]

My pleasure, thanks for watching!

[@vinceplatini]

Very interesting! Thank you!

[@allanbarton]

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

[@bevinboulder5039]

Thank you for another very informative video with the details of the coronation. I can't help wondering how on earth this ceremony can be condensed into one hour as the King reportedly wants.

[@allanbarton]

It can't conceivably be done in an hour, particularly given Camilla is also to be crowned. I think it could be done in two.

[@bevinboulder5039]

@@allanbarton Thank you for confirming my thoughts.

[@carolburns8667]

Such clarity..thank you again❤️🇨🇦

[@allanbarton]

My pleasure, thanks for watching!

[@jeffersonkee6440]

Hello Allan, excellent video as usual. I have wondered about the gold set of plates on the altar and another set behind the chair of estate. Are they very old or recent additions?

[@allanbarton]

Video incoming on those.

[@mrbojangles8133]

only place in Europe that still does an actual coronation, interesting

[@ericneilson1198]

I'd like to see what a coronation would look like pre-Hanoverian, Stewart, and Tudor. I mean what would a coronation look like circa Alfred the Great?

[@allanbarton]

Well, it hasn't really changed all that much since the Liber Regalis was written in the 14th century. The regalia is different, but even that reflects the medieval regalia.

[@spyderlogan4992]

Basic question: From the moment King Charles III walks in from the West Door of the Abbey until he walks out: How long IS the ceremony? Thanks~!

[@allanbarton]

We don't know yet, the late Queen's coronation in 1953 lasted two hours and twenty five minutes.

[@4RXLA]

From what I’m reading so far, Charles appears to be watering down or scrapping much of the ceremony. Restricted attendance, casual dress for attendees and military uniform for the king. If this is truly going to be only a 1 hour ceremony, there is a lot that is being removed from it. Too bad, with today’s modern temporary seating abilities, they could easily have put up fireproof grandstands. This is going to look no different than a commonwealth day or remembrance day service, which is a shame.

[@malopephasha5341]

it will be reduced but not that much, Charles is traditionalist, it will be modern but traditional at the same time

[@allanbarton]

They are all peripheral things really and have always changed. I don't think the central ceremonies can or will change.

[@pixbychris3182]

Thank you so much for these fascinating videos about the Coronation. It must be keeping you busy and after 6th May whatever will you do 😂

[@allanbarton]

Don't worry Chris, I have a list a mile long of videos I want to do.

[@RP-mm9ie]

excellent video

[@allanbarton]

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@GBTCO2b]

Hope to God he doesn't wear the cap of maintenance - it looks ridiculous enough on a pole at SooP. Bare headed for that part would be much better.

[@CharlotteinWeimar]

Yes, I agree. It is carried at the State Opening of Parliament on some sort of stick, so maybe he will get round it that way.

[@dianapatterson1559]

Ah, at last one can use antidisestablishmentarianism in proper context! Many thanks for this detail.

[@brucass93]

2:29 looks like a series of prints were made anticipating Edward VIII's coronation that never was.

[@allanbarton]

Yes, I think so.

[@CharlotteinWeimar]

I have the Coronation Programme of Edward VIII. It speaks volumes . . . . the cover is there, the layout is all prepared, with borders round the pages, the names are even printed ready for the photographs . . . . but there is no content. It is a ghost of a programme just as he was a ghost of a Iing

[@allanbarton]

@@CharlotteinWeimar how fascinating, how on earth did you find that?

[@erpollock]

So interesting! I never realized that the British monarch rules by permission of Parliament and that is why Britain has remained a monarchy rather than become a republic like other European nations. Excuse my ignorance, but I grew up in the US, and we don't learn 1688 and its ramifications like you do.

[@NWRCB]

That's too bad; because 1688 was important for all at that time pre-1776.

[@gordonsmith8899]

Isn't it included in your 'colonial history' courses?

[@allanbarton]

To be fair I don't imagine it is taught in British schools these days either.

[@Wosiewose]

@@gordonsmith8899 Unfortunately, no.

[@CharlotteinWeimar]

We did have a Republic with Oliver Cromwell after the beheading of King Charles 1st. But Cromwell was a dictator who appointed his son as his successor, in other words tried to start a new dynasty. Republics tend to go that way, think of Napoleon and all the new Tsar equivalents in Russia. Our Constitutional Monarchy separates the Power from the Glory. Instead nurturing perpetual left/right conflict (as now in the USA) it brings overall stability, which is well suited to the British temperament.

[@tobiasg.7438]

Do you men a Protestant descendant of Sophie of Hanover (mother of George I )

[@debbiesirota8284]

Is Charles the first divorced to be King?

[@ludovica8221]

Henry 8th was divorced a couple of times

[@lindymcbroom953]

@@ludovica8221 and I Think George I too.

[@frippp66]

Well, Henry VIII split from Rome & turned England Protestant so he could separate from his 1st Wife Catherine of Aragon - but this was finessed as 'an annulment'. George IV married Caroline of Brunswick after having secretly married Maria Fitzherbert, whom he had NOT divorced & who remained alive, thereby actually committing bigamy. Maria Fitzherbert was given a decent allowance & she remained tight-lipped & very loyal to George, even though they stopped seeing each other, dedicating her life to good works.

[@ludovica8221]

@@frippp66 annulment is just a prettier name for a divorce though really... more "respectable" but it amounts to the same thing

[@RB-747]

@@ludovica8221 No it really doesn't - one was until very recently illegal! Henry VIII never had a divorce, which was quite important as Head of the Church in England and later as Head of the Church of England

[@Thauan..]

I wish monarchy restoration in Brazil. My country 🇧🇷🇧🇷🤴🏻 i hate Republic

[@oneileo66]

You are saying that you would prefer a group of ppl to rule your countrymen simple because of entitlement or blood right..!!! How is that better than government by the ppl for The people....that what a republic represent

[@Thauan..]

@@oneileo66 it's very easy a republic become a Communist/Left dictatorship.... Like happened in Venezuela, Cuba and in China

[@meiriongwril9696]

How we need a republic!

[@allanbarton]

😂

[@malopephasha5341]

I damn tony blair for destroying the House of Lords, that man destroyed British culture

[@oneileo66]

That's change had to be done ,more power to the ppl . These " peer "should not be shaping policy simply because of blood right so that was a welcomed change!

[@rivenoak]

for the peers: HoL contains hereditary peers still and lots of life peers.