The Corporatization of Food | Joe Rogan Response

[@gequitz]

Yes Joe. Why don't we talk about food corporations like Tyson, and how they lobby our politicians for ag-gag laws and faster and more dangerous line speeds for workers.

[@berniv7375]

Excellent point. This is why Mick's rebuttal is so important. We are not only fighting for other animals to have rights and to be free from cruel exploitation. We are fighting for workers to be free from cruel exploitation. We are fighting for freedom and that will only be achieved by all of us going vegan.🌱✌🌱

[@theplantaheist9404]

Monsanto is an another awful company with horrific litigation and predatory practices. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It does not matter if the big multinational mega corp. is selling meat, oil, guns or veg, they will be looking out for their bottom line and doing what ever it takes to kill the competition.

[@berniv7375]

@@theplantaheist9404 The big vision within veganism is that in the process of the world going vegan a fundamental shift will happen in human nature that will alter our primal traits of aggression and greed and replace these self destructive traits with compassion, collective responsibility and higher thought processes. Veganism is capable of doing this.🌱

[@ivanak7149]

Bingo

[@theplantaheist9404]

@@berniv7375 No comment?

[@TheLocalFuzz]

Joe Rogan is wrong again? I, for one, am shocked and appalled...

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

Damn hunter gatherers been doing it wrong.they be hunting and eating all those nasty meat. But some how they healthy af 😂😂

[@Dieblauesau]

"is just a slick story" LMAO

[@EveryoneHarmonyPeace]

Another good content, thanks man~~

[@slartibartfast2452]

Did they bother to bring up meat subsidies? That they can't even fathom the price meat would be if not for said subsidies?

[@Israel2.3.2]

Rogan has a clear bias on this issue.

[@MA9ELLAN]

I'm not impressed with Rogan, he comes across as a shill

[@jtell723]

He’s deeply tied to hunting. He’s got really good friends who are hunters and he hunts himself

[@glennbishopbishthemagish]

@@MA9ELLAN So do a lot of vegan you tube channels, bias and asking for money donations, Laughing.

[@chuckybang]

@Glenn Bishop's Magic, Mysteries, and Much More! Yeah all those vegans are funded by big broccoli. It's just a way to sell more broccoli.

[@vysgiyi]

Ive heard how bad his podcast is. But this is disgusting. Green water?! Seriously?! Mostly I feel a little bad for this lady’s kids and their health if she’s that concerned if her kids can’t go without meat for one meal 2 days a week. Like will they be in danger without it?? And realistically what’s replacing the chicken sandwich? Grilled cheese or pizza? This kind of disinformation is so crazy and people not even questioning it is crazy.

[@bugeyes5396]

Maybe go listen to it and learn something.. yes green water is a thing, educate yourself.. This channel is just cherry picking studies for confirmation bias. Mic worships his studies. And yes I ate a vegan diet that I thankfully woke up from.

[@Sheron911]

I personally love Joe Rogan podcasts I just happen to disagree with his views on this issue 🤷🏻

[@danielhiginbotham1026]

@@bugeyes5396 Mic does love studies. But why do you say this like it’s a bad thing? I’m a huge Joe Rogan fan but, any objective look at the episode being discussed in this video will quickly reveal a lack of scientific research and an abundance of unsubstantiated claims. Additionally, I fail to see a valid point in the mentioning of your unsuccessful transition to a vegan diet. Last summer, I started a 5 day a week lifting program complete with a trainer and dietician. Thankfully, I woke from that illusion and have safely returned to my unhealthy lifestyle. C’mon Brent. Your smarter then this.

[@bugeyes5396]

Just saying I'm not a troll. I was genuinely interested in the lifestyle, and you can find a bunch of crap studied, he is looking for certain studies. He isn't looking for truth, he only wants validation for his ideas and that isn't scientific. Also I don't need a study to prove to Myself how I feel or what I see with my own eyes. Science isn't a religion, but for Mic and the vegan cult it is. Feel bloated and weak on a vegan diet, well you did it wrong bc I have a study that says it works.

[@MagnumCarta]

@@bugeyes5396 To be fair going by "how I feel" is also equally unscientific. Of course you shouldn't be in pain / malnourished but just going by "what I see with my own eyes" is as equally unscientific of an argument. In fact much of science is all about what we don't see so obviously in front of us most of the time.

[@oregonwoodelf]

Can't wait for everybody to look back at all this in 25 years... The efforts that people/entities go through to defend animal cruelty, poor health, and rejection of science is just incredible. Human nature = resistance to change. That's all this is, plain and simple. Be patient, friends. We'll get there! ✌🌱

[@gawwwd22]

When a lifestyle is so deeply ingrained anything revealing a contrast to your paradigm is beyond acceptance. The strength of knowledge/science/experience is being open to contradiction of your perspective.

[@xenoblad]

I swear to god, all the usual anti-vegan groups will act as if they were always vegan and then blame the usual supporters of veganism as being the real obstacles to veganism. It happened to MLK, it happened to Mandela, and it’ll keep happening, because spreading propaganda about history is way easier then actually teaching people about history.

[@Sm-rq9ll]

Meat is just much more nutrient dense but if they can make vegan food with the same qualities as meat, and tastes good then maybe one day

[@araimm227]

And can’t wait to see their interesting excuses and denials too…

[@cazdoodle7737]

@@Sm-rq9ll nutrient isn't worth the health detriments

[@elizabethelias1005]

She's not a very healthy looking woman.

[@GarudaLegends]

compared to freelee the banana skeleton? are you drunk?

[@jpayne4898]

@@GarudaLegends she probably thinks fully raw Kristina looks healthy.

[@starfox300]

Btw when David Sinclair was on his podcast, he literally said "studies show plant based diets help you live longer" and Rogan seems to have forgotten that real quick

[@Lulu-kt6gr]

That’s true!! He used to at least talk about being opposed to the horrors of factory farming but lately he’s been all about the meat!! If he’s so into living forever he’d better stop all the carnivorous stuff.

[@giladkingsley]

Sinclair also blocked doctors on twitter for arguing with him about resveratrol

[@starfox300]

@@giladkingsley True, Sinclair is kinda obsessed with Resveratrol. But most of the stuff he says is true

[@giladkingsley]

@@starfox300 agreed, I think he has a financial interest in resveratrol too.

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

@@starfox300 yep Also look up Dr. Brad Stanfield's recent videos on it

[@nerlind]

She seems really concerned about the economically disadvantaged kids not getting their "nutrient dense" junk food.

[@amla6517]

She is probably sponsored by the MAD industry.

[@cainen6355]

A: "Meat is just the most nutrient dense most perfect food for humans. It just IS!" Me: Plants are just the most nutrient dense and most perfect foods for humans. They just ARE! The ultimate nuanced argument has been created. This whole nutrition war has been settled.

[@Sm-rq9ll]

But meat actually is

[@cainen6355]

@@Sm-rq9ll But plants actually are

[@Sm-rq9ll]

@@cainen6355 if meat is out the equation maybe they are

[@gardenofeels6872]

You seem to think that the nutritional contents of different foods cannot be measured. Yes they can, and rather easily. Meat invariably comes out miles ahead of plants when it comes to nutrient density. That is, after taking into account not only total content of nutrients, but also the absorbability of those nutrients. Nutrients in plants have a very low rate of absorbability. Meat is digested much more completely. It's the fiber and anti-nutrients in plants that are the main problem. They interfere a lot with absorption. Meat wins, as long as it is properly produced. We're not talking about cheap, grain-fed crap.

[@Sm-rq9ll]

@@gardenofeels6872 excuse me but I don’t eat cheap cuts

[@MictheVegan]

Wow, the trip is already 60% full a couple hours after launch so if you want to come don't wait too long! trovatrip.com/trips/iceland-with-micthevegan-aug-2022.html Also, another point I left out of the video was that Robb Wolf said that vegans are being duped by promoting brands like Impossible. However, it seems that vegans have been some of the staunchest anti-impossible people since they did some animal testing. But don't forget Joe's logic: 'if plants good, why Bill Gates fat?'

[@kin.9133]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider doing a debunking video of Ann Reardon's most recent video on debunking dairy myths! I love her tiktok debunking videos but this made me so angry to watch - full of assertions and no references, and she has a huge audience! How to Cook That

[@lcwaves]

@@kin.9133 I love her videos too, but couldn’t bring myself to even watch the milk debunking video as I knew I would get too angry! I would love to see Mic do a video on that, Also perhaps mentioning dr. Gregors new video about bovine leukemia in milk and beef products?!

[@goranbreskic4304]

Of course the trip is already almost full! I always wanted to visit Iceland, but most likely I never will. It sounds like it will be a great trip 🙂

[@goranbreskic4304]

@@kin.9133 Ann Reardon is great, but she's not always right.

[@tomlauris]

Did you forget you have videos on your own channel claiming Impossible, Beyond, Just Egg and other processed junk would be healthy? Of course vegans are duped into promoting vegan brands, you are one of them.

[@lalonkarim1323]

Joe Brogan - always giving traction to bro science.

[@ThoreHLackebo]

Joe Rogan - THE embodiment of bro science.

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

Damn hunter gatherers been doing it wrong.they be hunting and eating all those nasty meat. But some how they healthy af 😂😂

[@TheSnerggly]

@@bffhbcvdhhb5396 actually, humans were scavenger, gatherer's before fire was discovered.

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

@@TheSnerggly yeah fire was discovered 1 million years ago. And what's ur point?

[@glennbishopbishthemagish]

Laughing and you can always count on vegans to not know anything about science, and they apparently don't like it when they are told - and they know, that veganism is debunked by crop deaths. Thanks for supporting the death of thousands of sentient beings every time a vegan chomps down on a carrot or some fruit. Laughing.

[@suicune2001]

At this point, they just sound like flat earthers to me.

[@carl13579]

Yes. When you have to make up your own conspiracies to explain why your theories are true, you have lost the plot.

[@anne.athenadura]

What's up with their obsession with beyond burger? 😅😅 How about plant based whole food diets?

[@ivanak7149]

Not an option. They don't make you fat fast enough.

[@katzensindweich3505]

Mic I admire you for your patience.

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

Propaganda

[@up6501]

@@bffhbcvdhhb5396 😂🤡

[@davidthescottishvegan]

Great video Mic. Most food is manufactured and sold by big corporations because the global food system is dominated by 10 big corporations and in countries with supermarkets dominated by big retail corporations for example the Grocery market in the UK is dominated by Tesco, Sainsbury's, Asda, Morrisons then Lidl and Aldi.

[@MictheVegan]

Yes, I am aware of this and even seemingly healthy smaller companies are largely just subsidiaries of the mega corps. There are already some good documentaries on that but in this case, using the woes of corporations in general to discourage eating more plant-based is absurd. Thanks.

[@katzensindweich3505]

@@MictheVegan could not agree more

[@theplantaheist9404]

@@MictheVegan That is true. The issue is with big corporations not being held accounable, not the meat or plant industry it self.

[@wherethereslifethereshope9858]

@@MictheVegan thank you Mic for your tireless efforts in championing a diet devoid of meat and animal products. There is one thing that is troubling me though and that is, what was the cause of death of your baby ? Are you hiding important information from us?

[@GNMbg]

@@wherethereslifethereshope9858 what baby... wtf are you talking about ? I need more info

[@garden.of.thistles]

Awesome response! I always learn something new from watching your videos, keep up the good work!

[@elpretender1357]

Is it me or meat eaters are overreacting to a few fast food franchises selling vegan alternatives to their products? Like, do they think we eat beyond meat/impossible burgers on a daily basis? All they do is criticize that niche processed food because if they were to oppose whole grains, vegetables and legumes even his audience would start to ask questions.

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

Most of those 3 are already opposed even just for keto

[@AndyS52]

Listen to the episode

[@joblogos2367]

For a bloke that claims to want to show all opinions he sure does have a lot more pro-meat guests, which considering it's not the commonly accepted position suggests he is picking his guests simply because they support his view.

[@audiogarden21]

And don't specifically make him look bad.

[@sschreck08]

Joe Rogan doesn't have the guts to have one of our Plant Based doctors on or even Earthling Ed. He would lose his credibility in an instant. 😂😂

[@ScarecrOmega]

yeah, Joe personally chooses his own guests and Wilks seems to be the last one and it was only in a debate, which only made Veganism stronger after that episode

[@sschreck08]

@@ScarecrOmega I heard he deleted that episode.

[@gardenofeels6872]

Joe would never be afraid to debate a one-note robot like Earthling Ed.

[@Siegfried5846]

I hope he doesn't have earthling ed to be honest. He's a mindless tool. Dr Michael Greger would be great though.

[@drestarman]

@@gardenofeels6872 U have strange take on earthling ed. I describe Ed as well researched and articulate activist.

[@timmyrd9610]

I’m willing to bet that most health conscious people who don’t eat meat probably don’t eat mock meats on a daily basis. I don’t think anyone is advocating mock meats as a health food. I’m a dietitian and resources I use from the academy of nutrition and dietetics, Canadian Healthy eating guidelines, American college of cardiology, KOQDI (renal guidelines), etc all recommend getting majority of your protein from plant sources instead of animal sources.

[@pimacanyon6208]

Mock meats are disgusting, usually filled with chemicals. Flavor comes from plants. You don't need mock meat to create a delicious meal!

[@NiranjanBendre]

What is Lancet’s motivation: public health! Good research! Science… 😅

[@JustinViola]

it's almost depressingly funny at this point. 2:18, if you understand body language, then, because she literally shakes her head while claiming that meat is the best source of nutrients basically, is usually a prove of her even knowing that she lies and confirming that genuine answer by shaking her head, but her mouth says otherwise. and such people are being seen as credible sources. and such an 'podcast' has 10 million views everytime. this is the face of humanity apparently. willful denial and willful ignorance.

[@victorl3969]

Also, nutrient dense doesn't mean healthy. Ben and Jerry is insanely nutrient dense with one tub being 1 thousand calories. That don't mean it's healthy.

[@pgoogler]

She really called it "nutrient dense perfect food" She couldn't think of anything specific to say so she just threw in perfect 😂

[@xenoblad]

I appreciate that your videos are cited, scripted, and don’t waste my time. Trudging through long meandering podcasts and rant videos from meat eaters that engage in virtually only speculations with little to no quality citations is so depressing.

[@JessicaMary0702]

Wow it’s hard to watch Joe Rogan.

[@myTERAexperience]

I just want to add: the hilarity of people going after Gates while literally using his products... 🤣😂🤣😂

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

This is honestly not a good argument. It's effectively the "Communism no IPhone" argument

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

I find Bro Rogan repulsive in every way; so blatantly biased---it's one thing to have an opinion, but the science doesn't back him up. He's all about the money, views, and "good things about his bad habits" and that's what his viewers want to hear. It says a lot about our world that his podcast is the most popular, and what it says is not a good thing....

[@mariahspapaya]

He has his biases and his opinions that he brings to it just like everyone. To assume that’s why he’s so popular is an incorrect statement…he interviews people to find more truth and acknowledges what he knows and doesn’t know. That gets peoples attention

[@drestarman]

i actually enjoy his podcasts. I knew about him fromhis UFC commentary, then he started a podcast. He talked about aliens, pyramids, ancient cultures, comedians, the universe, some politics, DMT etc. Buuuuut when it comes to no animal diets/veganism he has a strange huge bias wall against it. And thats why we have Mic, Hench, Ryan etc. would actually be nice to have one of them on the podcast or even Earthling ed.

[@isupportthecurrentthing.1514]

Hes fairly balanced on a lot of subjects , he just really wants meat to be healthy.

[@nancymello5246]

He brings some of the best minds in the world on his podcast. He is pretty objective, and yes he has his biases like everyone else; fantastic podcast imo.

[@niken538]

@@nancymello5246 I don't think he brings the best minds in the nutrition field, he brings way too many carnivore, keto or pro-meat bullshitters and not enough true scientists and researchers, just look the James Wilks debate, he had to come and defend the science from false claims and absolutely destroyed the zombie looking chiropractor

[@HealthRecovery]

When I was listening to the podcast as a 8 year vegan I felt like I should of died 8 years ago.

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

More oxygen for us carnivores

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

@Anjali am

[@camhowelse5797]

All they can see is MEAT ,all they can think and say is MEAT lol

[@clairebear1207]

I wish someone like you would go on Joe’s podcast. Or someone like Earthling Ed or Joey Carbstrong. I wonder if they would put Joe in his place. Or at least have a great debate.

[@fulminisrecovery1264]

I've been wanting this for so long

[@Vscustomprinting]

The problem isn't knowledge, it's money and power... Another debate won't change that.

[@143ForeverYourz]

It made me laugh when she started talking about how she was concerned as a mother for how schools are having meatless mondays or vegan fridays. OH LAWD! THE POOR CHILDREN HAVE TO EAT SOMETHING OTHER THAN DOMINOS PIZZA AND HOT CHEETOS FOR THEIR SCHOOL LUNCH! OH NOOOOOOOO! LOL

[@K_Rae_Bee]

Right!! The meat offered at school is hardly meat anyway, processed garbage. She is concerned about offering less of that and more fruits and vegetables?

[@amla6517]

Infact if anything plant based food will make the kids focus better in their studies and more active in sports too. My husband works from home (customer service) and he told me after going plant based, he can focus better in his job and much better in solving customers issue too unlike before when he gets all too tired and can't focus much.

[@getwhiffed4359]

Yet schools do these things and childhood obesity is an epidemic in the United States. It’s not from meat I’ll tell you that. It’s kinda of a joke you guys go at this podcast, I’m still trying to figure out how meat is bad for you. Because the studies done by doctors and Harvard about how red meat causes cancers and heart disease was heavily paid off by sugar and seed oil companies. When your body runs of just fat and low to no carbs, it runs better.

[@embraceuncertainty7127]

I have not consumed meat for 50 years and I have never eaten any imitation meat products. I have zero desire to reproduce the meat experiences of my youth.

[@adorable3817]

Some people stop eating meat due to their morals, not taste 😊 My husband is a passionate Vegan since 2017 (also converted one of his friends), but he eats vegan cheese and lunch meat daily, because he loves it. If your favorite fruit was derermined immoral tomorrow, you might still enjoy the 'taste'.

[@embraceuncertainty7127]

I can only speak for myself and I do not judge what other vegans may eat - as long as the animals are protected. When I gave up meat I was fortunate to have unlimited delicious Indian foods so I never missed the meat taste.

[@cazdoodle7737]

Hello, poor person here! 🤒 Can Diana stop talking about the health of us when she has little authentic experience. She doesn't care for or acknowledge food deserts. She doesn't care about nutrition or the well being of less fortunate... just preserving her meat eating habits. Don't use socioeconomic status as justification for unethical behavior I'm tired of it 😑 Joe Rogan podcast is just an echo chamber of conspiracy and fallacies and meaningless platitudes 💩💕

[@fitmeals9577]

Love it mic. Thought of you as soon as this aired. For someone who prides himself on seeing the other point of view he loved being in this little echo chamber 🤣🤣

[@DavyOneness]

Rogan has a lot invested in his meat eating views, probably will take age and illness to wake him up eventually, if ever

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

Aren't u guys in one too😂😂🤣🤣

[@DavyOneness]

@@bffhbcvdhhb5396 you got us, guess we all need to stop being vegan now because you are just too smart for us now that you are in our chamber too, lmao

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

@@DavyOneness hehehe can't take the fact that they are in a bubble too. 😂😂 Also u vegans eat grass like a cow and imma eat the cow. We will see 20 Years from now who's better if u vegans make it that long 😂😂 more meat for us. Thanks vegans

[@DavyOneness]

@@bffhbcvdhhb5396 said like someone wearing their ass as a hat. Yea, we in a bubble that is why we are discussing Joe Rogan meat views in such detail backed by actual science and not feelings, lmao. I have already been a healthy plant based eater for over 20 years, hate to burst your "bubble" , but keep eating that D, I mean meat!

[@braegrimes8870]

I was a former Robb Wolf fanboy at a time where I was extremely impressionable. Word salad artist in an echo-chamber of meat-centric thinkers: logical fallacies, cherry-picked evidence, and a prime benefactor of the paleo movement. No surprises that JRE is bending over backwards to have him on again rather than ANY vegan academic/researcher.

[@ooo789456123]

Great debunking of those false claims, thank you

[@jamesswim9035]

People want to stay in there heads

[@camhowelse5797]

God the “average joe” is terrifying

[@mikesmith1702]

I don't take nutrition advice from a size 10 woman

[@pgoogler]

💀💀💀💀💀

[@niken538]

Or listen to a podcast from a guy that uses HGH then claims he's healthy eating meat all day even having high cholesterol

[@keeganitreal]

Ugh Rogan is such a disappointment.

[@gabl1459]

I am enjoying the idea of an alternative reality where Mic is on the Joe Rogan podcast and turns Joe and his following vegan 🌱 💗

[@gabl1459]

Or this reality don’t mind me manifesting UwU

[@slartibartfast2452]

The best shows Rogans ever done are those in which he asks questions and adds little to nothing from his own mind. That tells you all you need to know.

[@NunnanAgda]

Aaand this reaks of yealousy

[@slartibartfast2452]

@@NunnanAgda ?

[@marilouneko2340]

They say "corporatization of food" as if animal products and meat weren't owned by massive corporations lmao. as you said, it's a capitalism problem, not a veganism problem

[@carinaekstrom1]

It's just amazing, the stubborn hanging on to meat and denial of everything else. Thanks again.

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

Vegans kill animals too u know

[@Magnulus76]

I used to eat grass-fed beef when I could (I've been semi-vegetarian for some time) and it wasn't cheap at all. Gardein's plant-based burger is cheaper. If we're talking bulk, dried TVP, that's only a small fraction of the cost of beef.

[@smilebot484]

why does anyone need to eat meat alternatives at all. introduce yourself to what the rest of the world considers food. hello legumes! get an instant pot. replace all meat with legumes. don't look back.

[@catalyst3713]

@@smilebot484 Or mushrooms

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

@@smilebot484 if you're avoiding carbs, not really lol And honestly not really even if you aren't avoiding carbs as the taste/texture really isn't comparable.

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

@@smilebot484 Damn hunter gatherers been doing it wrong.they be hunting and eating all those nasty meat. But some how they healthy af 😂😂

[@JohannaZee]

Anybody calling animal flesh the most nutrient dense food on Earth should not be allowed to write a book.

[@smilebot484]

i think they mean macronutrient particularly their fav nutrient protein. but even that's not factually correct

[@JohannaZee]

@@smilebot484 I don't think that's what they meant. Something isn't superior just because it has high protein and fat. If that's what they think then again they're wrong lol

[@smilebot484]

@@JohannaZee true. generally bro scientists are oblivious to micronutrients. meat has almost none. no fiber, no antioxidants, etc. so they must be thinking macronutrients otherwise the statement isn't even the slightest bit coherent.

[@linethsandoval2087]

What about liver?

[@smilebot484]

@@linethsandoval2087 liver has fiber or antioxidants? what? also full of enviro toxins.

[@danielcobb5441]

Listening to that podcast was so frustrating. They very briefly acknowledged some of the problems with factory farming, like the massive use of antibiotics, but then spent wayyyyyy more time talking about how afraid they are of impossible burgers.

[@SebAlex]

You know Mike is about to debunk any ridiculous claim made on that podcast the second you hear it. Brilliant job, as always!

[@bffhbcvdhhb5396]

Damn hunter gatherers been doing it wrong.they be hunting and eating all those nasty meat. But some how they healthy af 😂😂

[@Vscustomprinting]

@@bffhbcvdhhb5396 you mean the ones with parasites and huge viral loads? The ones spreading preventable disease? Typical anti-vegan with a oversimplified view of the big picture.

[@FlamingoCupcake28]

I’ll be honest, Bill Gates looks more than a bit fluffy to me, but that, like you said, is from too much meat. And the lady touting what a perfect food animal flesh is isn’t exactly a waifs either.

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

thankyou for everything you do

[@beanburrito8903]

Joe Rogan is such a sell out. He's getting paid to talk about meat. Just notice the pattern. More views on keto happen then vegan.

[@WTFisMYname24]

people like that are so cringe. so dogmatic when the science is so clearly against them XD.

[@terryelizabeth2841]

I love your style of analysis.

[@northerncoloradotransparen1454]

Joe Rogan?? Not exactly a model of intelligence. I have rocks in my yard that are smarter

[@Veganvipassi]

I am not sure what it's like in the U.S., but here in Canada when kids eat school lunches like burgers, sloppy joes, shepherds pie, etc., it's probably made of at least 50% soy filler.....

[@Hoppensagen]

I mean I hope your right about meat, I've been thinking about it and with the current research it does seem like too much red meat is not good, I'm still gonna eat meat of grass fed grass finished, but yeah I'm trying to lower my meat consumption. I hope you're right though because if not then I could be eating all this delicious meat.

[@meganfrey1663]

I believe meat is cheaper because it's subsidized as well.

[@adorable3817]

Yes, meat is subsidized 😔

[@earthling_parth]

Meat is _heavily_ subsidized 😔

[@GarudaLegends]

so is plant foods genius

[@meganfrey1663]

@@GarudaLegends not the mock meats smarty pants

[@meganfrey1663]

@@GarudaLegends since that's what we're comparing. Duh!!!

[@theartofbellydance]

I admire the work you do! Very cool. Thanks.

[@katzensindweich3505]

JRE=ppl posing as experts *cringe*

[@betterworld2958]

Not everyone that eats meat that has high cholesterol. Vegans have high cholesterol too when they consume a lot of saturated fat. There are studies that say saturated fat is the cause.

[@raw-viking]

“Bill Gates is fat” is an argument FOR eating plant based. 😂

[@Vscustomprinting]

It's a mark against affluence

[@KhallDrake]

Joe is a decent guy who had some unique takes on things, but when it comes to veganism this guy just stonewall all info and it the most stubborn guy I have ever known about the subject. Refuses to learn, refuses to listen, refuses to even consider it.

[@ordohereticus3427]

He is garbage across the board. The two times in his entire trash heap of a career when he was properly on point: 1. Climate change against Candace Owens. 2. Construction regulations against Dave Rubin. And the former, he more or less walked back by letting Peterson declare the entire field invalid without pushback. He is the chief example of mob/populist ignorance.

[@niken538]

It is amazing to me that he had James Wilks debunk some bs zombie looking carnivore nonsense in front of him in 4k ultra hd with dolby studio surround with scientific evidence, admitted he defended the documentary very well and he still can't accept that plant based diets are just supperior to any other diet in every aspect

[@ordohereticus3427]

First symptom of societal brain rot: People listening to Joe Rogan.

[@EarthtoRosita]

says the person who probably has never watched a Joe Rogan podcast.

[@niken538]

@@EarthtoRosita I think most people here at least saw one Joe Rogan episode when he used to talk about drugs and funny shit, like before he was sponsored by the meat industry and started to bring in pro-meat bs people and push this carnivore agenda

[@EarthtoRosita]

​@@niken538 this is the problem with a lot of vegans and im not saying this in some condescending way because i was guilty of it too.... but this generalization of what Joe is about and why he is pro animal eating isnt going to get us anywhere. i understand his perspective when it comes to this stuff. there is a legitimate war on masculinity that is in fact being pushed by the government for insidious purposes. they believe soy and these mock meats are a push to make men unhealthy and weak. you have to understand their viewpoint so that you can counter it better instead of just saying unintelligible things like "they have a carnivore agenda". if i were to talk to these people, id come to them with these facts: 1. soy is not feminizing. it has been used in asian and middle eastern cultures in place of animals when there were not enough animals left to eat. 2. mock meat, cheese, mock eggs and milk are NOT staples of the plant based diet 3. all people can live and thrive on a vegan diet simply by understanding nutrition and embracing different cultural foods. conversation stands out to people better when they have a mutual understanding of each others concerns. Joe had one vegan guy on and the reason why he "mysteriously forgot" that conversation was because he was ego hurt.

[@leviahimsa]

Humans need to eat more fruit 🥭🍎🥝🥒🥑🍓🍒🍋🍌🍅🍇🍈🍉🍊🍑🍐🍏🍍🥥

[@thevegandragon4676]

Mike. I just love you soo much 👍😊🌱💚🌱💚

[@myTERAexperience]

I haven't eaten meat, red or otherwise, in 17 years... Am I dead? 🤔 I get sick once every 4 years or so...cold or flu, 🤷‍♂️... surely something's wrong with me. 🤒 My mom has began telling me how she stopped eating a lot of meat and it makes her feel better... I'm happy she's lowering her intake.

[@adorable3817]

*haven't EATEN meat 🥰🙏💙 ✌ peace and love

[@adorable3817]

Exactly!!!!! 😁👍 if meat is necessary for a healthy life, how are these athletes excelling without it? ...and why don't most vegans die soon after quittung meat?

[@myTERAexperience]

@@adorable3817 *ADORABLE 😘

[@adorable3817]

@@myTERAexperience 🤣🤣🤣 touché 👍😁 KZbin wanted first and last Name. I didn't want to share that much, so my first Name is A and last is adorable

[@yoyoyooo4735]

The question is, are the people in dumbo rogans podcast trying to spread wrong information's on purpose, like exactly what they criticism or they really dont know what science is.

[@anthonyortiz4778]

Another excellent video! Thank you 🙏

[@fruitascension5089]

My "healthy & fit" meat & dairy dad died of a heart attack. So glad I learned the truth in 2010 about how to have a healthy vascular system and that heart attacks (and cancer, diabetes) are not hereditary. A plant-based diet is the way, all around.

[@scottharveth]

Heart disease, cancer, and diabetes are hereditary.

[@CarnevalOne]

Sheep central here...

[@Victor-Soria]

Another home run for the books

[@AtypicalPaul]

Feel like I'm only person that doesn't like Joe Rogan podcast lol

[@Andrew-rv9qr]

Mic, you are not right in the head, I am just shocked by the rubbish you say! You are broken

[@karlwheatley1244]

What did he say that was inaccurate?

[@Andrew-rv9qr]

@@karlwheatley1244 Have you even looked at the cholesterol "science"? Let's demonize an ancient food for causing modern decease, based on the fact it raises an unproven hypothetical rick marker. But we don't blame all the modern food and seed oils for this modern decease! How stupid does it get? Anyway, your health will fail and that will save you, not me giving you commons sense.

[@karlwheatley1244]

@@Andrew-rv9qr "Have you even looked at the cholesterol "science"? Yes, as a university researcher and professor, I have spent years studying why people are confused about this. Normal levels are healthy, but normal LDL levels are 35-70. It is the weak studies that create the illusion that elevated LDL is no problem and the stronger/experimental studies that reveal elevated LDL is causal in heart disease. There is a straight-line relationship--the higher the LDL, the more plaque forms and the more CVD events there are. "But we don't blame all the modern food and seed oils for this modern decease! How stupid does it get? " It is ALL unhealthy--too much saturated animal fat, too much dietary cholesterol, too many refined carbs, too much added sugars, too much oils... all of it promotes heart disease. Take care.

[@Andrew-rv9qr]

@@karlwheatley1244LIAR! Not for a million years do I believe your credentials. Not at all. Those extreme low levels of LDL are associated with the highest mortality, that's why you shills leave them off the hard left of the graphs!!!! Please explain why elderly women with high LDL have lower associated all cause mortality? You are a LIAR!!!!!!!!! LIAR! Bet you make money off LDL lowering statins? Please explain the lack of heart disease outside of modern Egypt? Funnily enough the Egyptian's ate a low meat and saturated fat, high whole grain diets, and were riddled with atherosclerosis! The mummy's prove this, as there are many average Joes who were mummified, not just the pharaohs! I bet you will live a short life with an LDL level of 35, you'd need those pill to get there though, LIAR! I know the science, you just lie, or are gullible, or incompetent! Are you a Seventh Day Adventist by chance? Or Harvard school of medicine?? Where do your lies come from?

[@Andrew-rv9qr]

@@karlwheatley1244 I don't know how you sleep at night!

[@kin.9133]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider doing a debunking video of Ann Reardon's most recent video on debunking dairy myths! I love her tiktok debunking videos but this made me so angry to watch - full of assertions and no references, and she has a huge audience! How to Cook That

[@skatingsarah1996]

Mic honestly you should reach out to Joe and get on the podcast. Getting the truth out there would be such a good idea! You could debunk a lot of his misinformation directly!

[@morganboykin1159]

Lol hes a carnivore diet influencer but all his gains haven't come from meat iys from steroids and hgh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@JeansiByxan]

Bro Rogan spreading his rogaganda once again. Smh

[@semilental]

Mic.. we need to get you on the Joe Rogan podcast...

[@Spock_Rogers]

Joe's corporate masters would never allow it.

[@carnismiscancer2108]

Veganism is rising and thriving while carnism is trying and dying!

[@GarudaLegends]

vegan fake meat sales are plummeting, and veganism still has a high fail rate. snap back to reality

[@tomlauris]

@@GarudaLegends Beyond stock price has dropped from $140 a year ago to less than $40 now

[@EPICTACULAR]

What the Hell are they talking about Go Vegan

[@CharGC123]

YOU need to go on Rogan!!!

[@slartibartfast2452]

Plant based sense 13. Now 45. 0 issues, 0 concerns, 0 health problems. Far as I'm aware I never even got the cov. Probably did, but didn't even know.

[@briancanning9149]

Super pale skin, high pitch whiney voice, wears comfortable sweaters. I'm worried about your health bro. I think the greenest thing I have seen you ever eat on your channel was ice burg lettuce and that isn't saying much. Lots of picking random studies to fit your narrative just like everyone else on both sides of your argument. But hey screw it what ever gets you views right. (Notifications turned off, I will not see responses. #postandghost)

[@Gloomwithaview]

Really, your rebuttal was just as bad. Two extremes, the truth always lands somewhere in the middle. Don’t roll your eyes as if the contradicting evidence you supply is to be taken as absolute truth. There is just as compelling studies and “evidence” on both sides. You think your solutions are so black and white but with anything at a global scale veganism will have just as much health and environmental issues. Balance is needed. This whole carnivore movement though I don’t totally agree with is interesting and brings in a different perspective. Example; there is many long term studies and evidence against meat consumption and mortality. However theres never been full studies in more isolation. All these studies are generalized so meat consumption is pretty much correlated with the standard western diet. People who are eating meat are also eating a lot of processed foods. High processed carbohydrates, cheeses, sauces, sugars, artificial ingredients. Now ppl who move from this diet to a plant base diet see major health benefits . Wow, what a surprise. However, we are starting to see the same anecdotal evidence from people who moved from a standard diet to strictly meat. It’s so exhausting watching intellectual educated ppl constantly butting heads because their research meets their agenda rather than focus on the aspects they both agree on. Veganism or carnivore, one might be the superior diet (doubt it) but something tells me we won’t know for a long time if ever. Why not focus all this energy down the middle in educating ppl, getting them off all this processed crap and sugars.

[@samwingender]

🌍✌

[@BowstaffWorrior]

Hey mic just a heads up. I was unsubscribed from you with out even knowing it and it wasn't my doing.

[@adorable3817]

Yes! I had that with another Channel. PLUS, Videos I KNOW I watched and LIKED - no longer had the 👍 matked. Very strange 🤔

[@gee_emm]

I’m so over Joe Rogan. Like, profoundly. I wish he’d go offline, count his millions while he shits on workers, crack on with his cigars and carnivore diet and never disgrace my time line again. 🙄

[@Serioslump]

Imagine having the take that American children are eating TOO MUCH fruits and vegetables and need to be eating less. And Joe Rogan takes this person seriously? Of course.

[@AndyS52]

That is not what they said. Listen to the episode.

[@Serioslump]

@@AndyS52 no thank u

[@shenandoah7875]

You seem pretty concerned about species going extinct from modern day farming techniques. You brought up the methane that cows supposedly put into the atmosphere. This is very interesting because there was a time when the earth was teeming with megafauna that would have unleashed way more methane into the atmosphere. Would you say extinction is a good thing when it’s animals that produce a lot of methane that are going extinct, or is extinction just bad. Should cows go extinct?

[@biggiemauls7772]

Nice work Mic

[@lorenbeaulieu2896]

False studies is all you got? Everything you countered with is just emotional. I say awesome if a certain diet works for you and can stop the sugar and wheat cravings in our society. It’s not like we do not have an obesity and disease problem by eating this. Meat and eggs saved my life.

[@hansonfreecall6274]

Thank you so much Mic.

[@JeanetteEakin]

I love Joe Rogan but that episode was not one of my favorites. Truly couldn't wait for you to debunk that nonsense. I am not vegan and even I know that it was full of garbage. And the way people get so defensive when they say the schools are making one day a week meatless. Like it is going to suppress someone to go meatless for a day. There is whole cultures that don't eat meat for months on end.

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

First !

[@MictheVegan]

That is a fact!

[@veganfortheanimals6994]

@@MictheVegan yes sir. Keep up the great work !

[@Eurovisionfan2012]

As an Icelandic lover off your videos, yes plz, welcome to Iceland. Hope I can meet you. There are Vegan fb groups here and Reykjavik and some places outside Rvk with good vegan food. But many travel sides with no vegan food. Except fries. Check out “vegan island” fb group. They will love u and have endless tips ❤️❤️❤️

[@AstrologywithMelody]

The mega nutrients in green leafy vegetables and the fact that you can get more than enough protein from plant based foods is enough for me to put in the extra effort to eat a healthy vegan diet due to my ethical concerns with consuming any part of other sentient beings. I think for meat, eagles and dairy eaters, it’s a matter of convenience. I do think it takes some education and time to eat vegan in a healthy way.

[@OatmealTheCrazy]

I don't think many people are eating eagles

[@AstrologywithMelody]

@@OatmealTheCrazy lol - typo.

[@russcarroll1648]

Has anyone noticed hunters are like creepy.

[@Victor-Soria]

Joe needs to decide whether or not his podcast is him and his friends talking conspiracy theories and "bro, what if?" or where the "experts" come on to tell the "real story" on important topics. I definitely think the show is more good than bad, but the scale is tipping to the other side dangerously fast.

[@davisantos3431]

It's been a free platform for clowns for some time now.

[@camhowelse5797]

It’s like burgers is what they think all food is. If they see you eating bananas they would ask you, What kind of burgers are those? Lol MEAT heads