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[@crimsonknight7011]

If you think this was bad you should read up on the Oceanos that sank. The entire crew in charge knew the ship was gunna sink and instead of putting out any alerts they threw their possessions in the life boats and left the ship without telling any of the passengers. The ships entertainment group were the ones that sent out rescue alerts. No one died and the crew were not found guilty because it was not in their contracts that they HAD to help others if the ship was gunna sink. There is also video of the ship going down at the end.

[@Johnpinckney98]

That's.... wow...

[@bdk336]

I was under the impression that naval laws for most countries and for international waters stated that officers in charge of ships do have certain responsibilities when it comes to ensuring the safety of passengers and crew.

[@crimsonknight7011]

@@bdk336 ok so apparently the captain and 4 crew members were convicted of negligence but that was it. But I do remember them saying that it was not in their contract that they had to stay on the ship.

[@generalkenobi5173]

I mean if it isn't in their contract then they free I guess.

[@bobbib4627]

Isn't this the same as Sewol Ferry Tragedy? Sounds very similar Edit: it turns out it's different ship tragedy. But still, both are saddening to read or watch 😔

[@619Slipk]

About the traces of cocaine in his hair, once you use it it doesn't get entirely flushed out right away, some metabolites ramain in your body for a while. That's why the hair test exists. Shows you did it somewhat recently even though you might not have been intoxicated at that instance. (Which in this case I think doesn't mean much, but anyway, that's the reason behind it)

[@coroixiwa]

Kind of like rings on a tree actually. The hair test always has a more broad view of what you put in your body in the last few weeks. (Mostly medical family and did lab work when I was younger, most common thing we did was hair testing. Still fascinating how your body will always call you out on things you did if you get in trouble.)

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

@@coroixiwa brings a whole new meaning to Snitches Get Stitches, your body can snitch on the stupid things your brain comes up with...

[@zeallust8542]

Tbh hair tests should *only* be done on people with a history of violent crimes while under the influence who have been court ordered to stay sober. If it doesnt show up in a urine test, you cant blame the incident on drugs imo. And even urine tests are iffy considering how long some drugs stay in the system and how short other drugs do. Cocaine leaves your urine after 2 days, weed can stay for up to 3 months depending on how often you use it and how much. Mouthswabs should be the only tests used in employment and accidents

[@no_name-zo1hy]

Right, he definitely wasn't high when the crash happened, but he likely had a cocaine habit of some sort. Make of that whatever you will.

[@Spyko-]

loved how you called the language barrier issue immediately ahah

[@tyforestreacts]

It was an iceberg and arrogance that wrecked the Titanic. It was a rock and stupidity that wrecked the Concordia.

[@mcfarofinha134]

at the titanic's captain went down with the ship

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

I'd hardly call it arrogance. I've studied the Titanic disaster for nearly a decade at this point. It was more ignorance. Titanic was built with the best steel they could make in 1912, she was built to withstand the worst maritime disasters of her age and beyond (Which is why White Star called her _Practically_ unsinkable), and had more lifeboats than anyone believed she needed at the time. They put every precaution they could imagine into Titanic. Unfortunately, the damage Titanic took that night overwhelmed what they did have.

[@SgtKilgore406]

@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim "They put every precaution they could imagine into Titanic." Except having enough lifeboats for every soul on board.

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

@SgtKilgore406 Like I had already addressed in my original comment, they already had more lifeboats than they believed she needed at the time. The idea a single ship needed lifeboats for every single person, at the time, was considered ludicrous and is 100% hindsight. It was believed, at the time, that there were enough ships at sea that another ship would be close enough to provide assistance with an evacuation. The other ship would lower their own lifeboats and the fleet of boats would transfer all the passengers from the striken ships to the rescue ship. No one could conceive of a situation where an entire Ship's passengers and crew would need to be evacuated and set adrift in the ocean.

[@SgtKilgore406]

@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim You're still giving them credit with that statement. White Star Line would have been mocked and had their reputation tarnished if they had added enough lifeboats to the Titanic for everyone at that point in time. Especially after touting the Titanic as practically unsinkable. The fact still remains that they, along with almost every other ship builder at the time, were arrogant and could have made a life-saving decision if their greed, pride, and egos were in check. White Star Line is not totally to blame either. The weather certainly played its part that night including Captain Smith for not taking head and slowing down once they had confirmed reports of icebergs in the area. Yes, they had more than the legally required amount of lifeboats. Yes, they would have looked foolish for adding the proper number of lifeboats to Titanic. However, imagine how different that night could have been if they had. Safety regulations are sadly written in blood. It's crazy to think of how many tragedies could have been prevented if governments, corporations, and people actually gave a damn about life and didn't just follow the rules because they were forced to.

[@Playbahnosh]

Hold up! The thing about Hungary not having laws against insurance fraud is completely false. (Hungarian here btw. Bojler.) Internet Historian kinda misunderstood that quote. The quote actually says "Hungary has never had anything like this happen... they don't know how to punish these people". It's a really unfortunate choice of words. There are insurance fraud laws in Hungary, obviously. What that quote means is, there is no legal precedent for these specific circumstances, eg. a case involving someone trying to unlawfully insert themselves into a nautical disaster that happened in a foreign country. It's also true they didn't take any money, never presented any documents (real or fake), never officially submitted any claims and no one was hurt or wronged. The whole thing basically happened over the phone with a private lawyer from the US. Since the conversations weren't recorded, they got nothing. The worst the scammers could be charged with is attempted fraud, but even then they have no evidence against them just hearsay and conjecture that will be easily thrown out of court.

[@DeHerg]

Yeah, that sounded weird from the beginning and the justification of being a former communist country made no sense. Firstly, that was over 2 decades ago at that point(more than enough time to change laws). Secondly a communist country would have even more reason to punish that (with insurance being state owned).

[@TheChillzoneX]

Thank you for the clarification

[@-libertyprimev1-902]

I believe he went back to clear that up a bit in the QnA that came out a few months after the original video, understandably there was a lot of stuff that could've used more detail but simply couldn't fit into one video.

[@zeallust8542]

@@DeHerg it does make sense to mention the fact they were communist before though even in the not having a legal precedence statement. Hard to know what to do when insurance itself is already a new thing to your country.

[@Fuzz32]

I was going to say. If a country has no laws on insurance fraud then why doesn’t this happen more often? But it makes more sense that they don’t know how to prosecute a crime like this.

[@richardendresz161]

BRÖTHER I HAVE SINKED HERE

[@crimsonknight7011]

The Inquisition needs to investigate this guy for Heresy

[@betchersgland7236]

@@crimsonknight7011 Ordo Grammaticus at the very least.

[@ablacktemplar1971]

@@betchersgland7236 correct.

[@Hunter-zf7rt]

Brother get the flamer, the heavy flamers

[@MavenCree]

The captain doesn't hire the people working on the bridge. The cruise line does.

[@grimsladeleviathan3958]

One of my uncle, his wife and their kids were going to go onto the Costa Concordia! But due to me falling ill, and my parents were out of town with only my younger sister with me, they had to take care of me and had to miss the cruise. I kept saying to my uncle I saved his life for a couple years lol. As a joke of course

[@VainerCactus0]

The stress from that event would have taken a few years off anyones life, especially if they had kids to think about, so you're probably not too far off the mark.

[@lvlurarti]

"This is why we have the Old Testament" Good one 😂

[@Londronable]

I'm going to lie about a situation happening in the fucking Mediteranian... How long did that guy think he could hide this shit in such a densily traveled area ffs?

[@DeHerg]

1/2 panik, 1/2 lying to himself

[@matehiqu9905]

his brain probably short circuited just like the ship's engines

[@dagonofthedepths]

The captain deserved jail time, but I think it should be noted that the trail was a bit of a kangaroo court. Like his second officer saying the captain never clearly took command over the bridge, he clearly did. It was in the ship recorder. He was also giving orders after the captain took the com which isn't something you're supposed to do. It's not a huge deal but it shows he's lying in trail and is painting the captain's actions in a more negative light than what was the reality. The fact is he was set up as a scapegoat. He made it really easy for people to do that because of his actions but he's still the scape goat and the truth is lost a bit when that happens. Again, I still think he deserves his sentence, but this was caused by a number of factors, not just the captain and I feel just for future safety's sake all of that really should be addressed so it doesn't happen again. The company also kind of got off easy from a legal sense but they did pay for the clean up so hope that taught them something. Probably not but who knows.

[@sygmarvexarion7891]

Regular Italian corruption. Carnival Cruises dodged all criminal responsibility with the help of a corrupt judge, and the entire thing was thrown on the captain's back.

[@clintgahm1495]

As true as that is it's not like Schettino earnestly served his role as a captain in this scenario. Making a mistake is human, but exacerbating that mistake drowning in fear and denial while the crew and passengers lives are on the line waiting for you to do your job and have the courage to make the decision that prioritizes their safety over your pride is the real crime here.

[@dagonofthedepths]

@@clintgahm1495 Yeah 100% agree. Not excusing him. I think he should have gotten more time honestly. But I think that should have been done with the intent of justice not as a scapegoat to get other people off and save your tourist attractions. Just because they got the main guy doesn't mean all the other people should get a free pass which they pretty much did. Like he wasn't the only one that tried to cover this up with the coast guard so even after the fact he wasn't the only one screwing up even then.

[@madmonkeys88]

​@@dagonofthedepthsif I remember right the company also implemented a ton of safety features so that something like this should never happen again. (Not saying they did it out of the goodness of there heart or anything, the ship as well as the cleanup cost them so much fucking money)

[@AidanS99]

5:16 Bro, why does no one realize that the 2010 “crash” is just a clip from “Speed 2: Cruise control”. There was no actual footage of that crash so he just put that joke in.

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

Do you think anyone watching this is old enough to remember that movie?

[@AidanS99]

@@Lobsterwithinternet I’ve never seen the movie but there is text RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN!!!!

[@Lobsterwithinternet]

@@AidanS99 Kind of reminds me of that experiment that had a bunch of people playing basketball and everyone was so engrossed by the game that they didn't see the guy in a gorilla suit walk across it. LOL

[@AidanS99]

@@Lobsterwithinternet I love that video 😂

[@YukoValis]

To be fair, it is kind of rare for a captain not to get a few fender benders. The ocean winds can be downright nasty. Scrapes and dents are something just about every ship captain gets. Doesn't mean he is any less of a screw up coward though.

[@ALJ9000]

But collisions, and back to back ones at that, are overlooked?

[@generalkenobi5173]

Umm for the bit where he rose from security to ship captain that is not actually uncommon for ship captains to go through a security route. See what tends to happen is that the ship captain position are normally filled which means if you for example you already did the studying and training sometimes you are better off just finding another role within the company for example security until a position for a ship captain is available. Oh btw and the hiring of navigators who have language barriers is not uncommon in the shipping industry as its cheaper.

[@xavmanisdabestest]

And language barriers account for 60% of accidents

[@slaaneshy_fiend9743]

We also had Seven Psychopath in 2012. Truly an underated marsterpiece of a film

[@nickfulson186]

I've finally found someone else who mentions that movie, props to you

[@ralseithelonely]

I've seen this video almost four times from different reactors, yet I have yet to get bored.

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

Same XD

[@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly]

Seamorton is no hero in fact she's the captains side piece.

[@FjreHazard]

36:42. You can test hair for previous drug use. It's like a biological search history (probably a bad simile, but it's all that I could think of at the time).

[@hauntedshadowslegacy2826]

Nah, that's a pretty good analogy. Search history builds up with your recent internet activity, and hair builds up with your recent substance-consumption history.

[@jalejablonsky2396]

ChillZone before: I don't wish to pull anything here... ChillZone after learning the language issue: Fakkin hell!

[@teoteous]

I seriously wonder if the Emperor's Children had theaters on their biggest ships before their fall.

[@Nestmind]

I yeah, Schettino...he is such a meme here in Italy

[@kabob0077]

31:50 Honestly, the Halo music makes this segment so much better.

[@belinablanc]

A good compliment to this video is the Q&A for it on the second channel, Incognito Mode. Answers a number of questions, and goes into more detail for certain aspects of the story.

[@jjpark98]

I highly recommend watching the QnA for this video as it delves into the research and other additional info that really adds more to the story

[@Jukrates]

57:04 "Expecting a new tragedy" Russia: "Hold my vodka"

[@revantobias8567]

I'm glad the captain went to jail. This ENTIRE video could so easily have been avoided by simply not being an a$$hole. People died because he wanted to honk too close to the town.

[@Friquido]

Remember that the company is responcible as well. The captain was in the wrong but the company approved of something they knew could be incredibly dangerous but they didn't face any real justice

[@revantobias8567]

@@Friquido True. If I ever go on a cruise I will do extensive research on the captain and company. This is so infuriating because it was so easy to avoid.

[@generalkenobi5173]

@@revantobias8567 the accident mostly happened because he disobeyed protocols. Ship honking is sometimes encouraged by cruise ships. He wanted to impressive his girlfriend for the most part and was partly distracted.

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

The whole situation could have been avoided if he was sentenced to prison for the other ship crashes BEFORE the Costa Concordia crash. This isn't just a company being scummy. It's a literal failure of Italy's law system. No trials, and yet somehow they allowed a moron to continue being a captain AFTER TW CRASHES THAT WERE THE RESULT OF HIS ARROGANCE AND STUPIDITY.

[@philosotree5876]

4:49 WRONG. The Titanic could've floated with four compartments flooded.

[@Kiss_My_Aspergers]

You have a great smile, trés infectious. 😄 Definitely one of the more toned-down but enjoyable reactions I've seen.

[@Mike-sb3rf]

The captain fumbled so badly even if the sinking still happened he could’ve been able to reduce his sentence by a lot if he just told the truth to his superiors and also made evacuation efforts once he knew the ship had started sinking instead of stalling heck if he did that he could’ve been a national hero if he played the press right and also if he started evacuation earlier he could’ve been the last to leave ship which would’ve helped his PR

[@yeettheheat]

So...this doesnt really have tp do anything with the Video, but can we just appreciate how absolutely Massive these Cruiseliners are. Like the Concordia had a displacement of roughly 50.000 metric tons. The Bismarck for Comparison (the largest Battleship built by Nazi Germany during WW2 answell as being the Largest Battleship in the World before the Yamato Class came around) only had a displacement of 41.000 metric Tons.

[@sirskyrage]

container ships are even crazier the ever given for example has a displacement of around 265.000 metric tons

[@tytoalbasoren9457]

Internet Historian actually paid someone $1000 for someone to send him an actual picture of Jacob Rusli Bin but opted to not use it because he ain't a snitch.

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

Now that you mention it... a battle barge on the ocean sounds kinda dope.

[@darkhorseman90]

To think, about a 1/4 of the charges would've never been added had the captain just stayed on the capsized portion of the ship until the very end since it didn't sink completely

[@tytoalbasoren9457]

Idk if this true or not, but I heard the company that refloat the Costa Concordia is the same company that unstuck the Suez.

[@inquisitormaddox8581]

You should watch Internet Historian QandA of this video

[@ExActa]

Earned my sub with the monty python refference. You, Sir, are great.

[@katjosephperez8772]

Schettino looks like he bloated up quickly in between the crash and writing under house arrest. That’s alcohol. My best friend and I have both experienced and learned from “the vodka double chin.”

[@_Trash_Goblin]

Just started, but you should check out Internet Historian's Kony 2012 video at some point, too

[@ngultrum1]

36:40 It's the shampoo.

[@leurunner4764]

Again, all that calendar stated was the end of an age and the beginning of a new one. It loops the same way a clock does. Nobody would think the world would end when it reaches 12. There is a reason both these things are round.

[@wikygaming]

Wait is it true that he hired an Indonesian as a crew member of a luxurious boat? This would be a big news in here

[@wikygaming]

watched at the time Rusli Bin, reportedly, fleeing into Jakarta. You won't find him there anymore

[@omabrax0555]

Can you react to Endless Space 2 by SsethTzeentach

[@luc410]

aw hell yeah bro, this is some good shit

[@Jokke81]

Damn I have been so blind watching this video in the past. Only just now noticed in the Dominica Cemortan video that there are monitors with picture/background picture of a sinking ship. :D

[@NothingKingKN]

Fun fact about De Falco and his political career: he joined a right-wing movement and left once he realised that they had no wishes to keep the electoral promises, so he just went independent after that.

[@katjosephperez8772]

Can all people just silently agree that we stop building passenger ships that big? I don’t know what the militaries need, but ships for cruises could stand to be about half that size, maximum

[@lucamaddison6831]

accidents don't happen, they are just the aftermath of ignorance

[@dogwithsunglasses4051]

Helmsmann isnt that prestigous of a position. They only control the ruder on order of the Officers. Normally, a understanding of what the callouts mean would be completly fine. Driving into the harbor is also mostly done by officers, since the most delicate part is done with thrusters. The Helmsmann is basically there for the most boring part of the job, standing at the rudder, for hours only to get a callout here and there. Cleaner positions are the most plentifull on the ship and many crew from asia start there. Some then do side training on other positions to get into better departments. For Costa, i was with a daughter company so I may be off by some details for Costa, The Painters were part of the Deck Department. They maintain the hull off the ship and accessories like the anchor and winches. They also clean and paint the exterior of the Ship. The Deck Department is also where the Bridgestaff, the Officers and the Captains are. So going from Painter to Helmsmann isnt that much of a step as you may think it is. The Problem here was that he got overwhelmed, because usually this isnt happening. And you cant get trained regulary for "Captain fucks up because his mistress distracts him" in the guidebook

[@Veprem]

Instead of only attempting to turn, why didn't the ship also full reverse the engine?

[@drthmik]

You’re thinking of a little boat Full reversing the propeller wouldn’t do what you think it would on a ship that size

[@sygmarvexarion7891]

At that size and weight, not to mention moving through water, the momentum is massive and it's very very unlikely to be able to be stopped by reversing the propeller. It's like asking a speeding train to stop because there is a car on the tracks. Oh the train will stop, it will stop 2 miles after hitting the car.

[@zeltech-alpha]

Late to the party but at least you showed up, huh?

[@GratefulChaos]

"We don't need a battle barge on the water " I disagree. Battle barges are cool.

[@vexxen8232]

you should see the second video posted on incognito mode

[@Y0sh1no5am]

The world didnt end in 2012 but we did get the movie 2012 so GG lol Actually its the movie 2012 is what Camping predicted omg imagine if he meant the movie 2012 is when world will go down. It kinda did in the movie.

[@azothreset1068]

hey, appreciate that you lower the volume when you eat, noises of someone eating does annoys me a lot, thank you.

[@CassieJo]

You know that whole End of the World Mayan Calendar December 21, 2012 prediction was not how the Mayan Calendar works. Just because their calendar ended on that date, doesn't mean the world was going to end, not even the Mayans thought that. That's just when it ended. You try making a calendar that goes from the 250s-900 CE all the way up till 2012. You'd get tired of that calendar, and just say, "here's a good place to stop." Also, according to them, the end of the calendar also meant something completely different. It was the end of ah era. That human consciousness would transcend to another state of enlightenment. The end of the material world, not physical matter--no, no--just the reliance on the material world as in putting importance on wealth, power, and prestige, which we all know causes corruption and evil in your spirit.

[@brandoncarlson2862]

December 2012 I was 13 years old and I remember siting in the classroom on the day it was all suppose to go down saying “Oh god, I hope the world ends. It’s all gonna go downhill from here.”

[@MWkillkenny84]

47:14 Not... quite right. Yes, the (in this case) Hungarian authorities cannot nab someone for insurance fraud. Tossing the scammer in jail for having lied to them, or using said tentative of fraud as an excuse to examine hir life under the microscope and take hir to trial for everything hi could have committed? All too capable of doing it. And, being former Soviet Block states, well... making the scammer having a 'accident' is also among the possibilities. I suspect the scammers got in deep caca for the stunt.

[@sofabored2150]

You speak eloquently.

[@deangoldenstar7997]

... wait you're in Denmark!?

[@TheChillzoneX]

Yeah

[@deangoldenstar7997]

@@TheChillzoneX glad for at møde dem. Really not used to seeing Danes on here that ain't bokoen1 keep up the good work, I'm really enjoying your content.

[@TheChillzoneX]

@@deangoldenstar7997 tak skal du have