“The Country Is In A Mess!” Macron Sees Off Far-Right Threat But Dilutes His Power

The French left said it wanted to run the government but conceded on that talks would be tough and take time, after Sunday's election thwarted the far right's quest for power but delivered a hung parliament.
Many of France's allies breathed a sigh of relief after Marine Le Pen's National Rally (RN) failed to win the snap election called by President Emmanuel Macron.
But with the leftist New Popular Front (NFP) alliance, hastily assembled before the election, unexpectedly coming first but far from an absolute majority, the election heralded a period of volatility and possible gridlock.
Talk’s Kevin O’Sullivan discusses the results with author at The Spectator Gavin Mortimer.
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#france #macron #marinelepen

[@hagalhagal9989]

Stop calling whoever is against illegal immigration as far right!

[@Joanna7428]

I know! I'm actually getting used to and immune being called it! I used to be offended by it because it was wrong, but now I see it as I'm just a typical person worried about their country.

[@dappa9996]

But being pro immigration and advocating for the decline of natives is fair game, it’s reverse racism

[@alanbstard4]

the legal immigration is a far greater problem

[@marylauder3374]

Both are a problem. If they stay they all need housing.​@@alanbstard4

[@Madoldcatlady]

I supported LePen. But I’m glad she didn’t win. She would never have had the majority, therefore she’d never have been able to pass any legislation, just like this National assembly won’t. It’s up sh’t creek. 2027 is her time.

[@edwardwookw]

Visiting France will soon be like visiting an Islamic place.

[@fazall2023]

No more visiting, i would never go to France again.

[@susivarga7303]

Not far off the UK then 😂 But the weather, the food and the countryside are better.

[@Madoldcatlady]

@@susivarga7303the countryside in U.K. is absolutely magnificent and unlike a large part of the rural countryside in France, it’s still got thriving local communities. I should know, I’ve lived and still live in one such rural area. As for the food, I’ve never understood the hype around French food, unless you like eating virtually uncooked meat that is, but as for the rest, bof, as they say. And then you’ve got the French people; a miserable, arrogant unfriendly lot of people and I say this as someone who is married to a Frenchman with French kids. When he retires, we’re moving back to England, which he also loves.

[@MichaelPickles]

​@@susivarga7303Shhh don't tell them, they are already coming into the countryside leaving rubbish everywhere.

[@maccagrabme]

The food was better but for how long?

[@genaromertel9808]

I thought Cameron was the dumbest politician I'd ever met, but then Macron showed up.

[@carolhama4156]

I knew something was funny when Macron married his elementary school teacher!

[@orsoncart1547]

Cameron was silly for proposing Brexit yes. But Boris Johnson is dumber for its implementation, let alone the clown show he ran.

[@TG-ts3xn]

@@orsoncart1547why? You didn’t like our democratic vote to leave?!

[@orsoncart1547]

@@TG-ts3xn I'm glad in a way it happened as it stopped this country from veering to the extreme right as the public now realise how stupid they are because of Brexit. Win . We are also starting the process of going back in the EU now

[@fazall2023]

They are corrupt.

[@vjamesg100]

Macron is just as bad as Starmer. God help us!

[@captaincabbage-ny9lu]

Davos lickspittles.

[@stewartbunting3568]

I just can't understand the British electorate voting Labour it's beyond me, they will live to regret it not only them but their children and grandchildren. I had the English decency to go out and vote Reform UK because I believe in my country and to restore our culture and not throw it away to Islam like this Labour government. I will end this comment by saying there is serious danger heading our way, I can't see this Labour government completing a first term office.

[@afolabitoye4393]

God help, but you voted far left.

[@fillyfresh]

@@stewartbunting3568 It's mainly to maintain their benefits. Reform encouraged self respect in working life.

[@UTSareth]

​@@stewartbunting3568only 20% did, only 10% actually support labour while only 1% agree with their polices

[@RickGhastly-ty8cq]

Not far right , just right

[@hfb-ie7nc]

*Far right or right always lose 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣*

[@Whiskey0880]

Because of corrupt leftists.

[@kevphillips02]

Why are so many using this comment like sheep . Use free thought not following the crowd .

[@minimaxmiaandme.4971]

@@hfb-ie7nc Stupid comment!

[@rugby86]

Exactly, they’re not far right. Just right, but extremely far From the left 😂😊

[@H.Hardrada]

He made a deal with the devil.

[@spg5658]

Well said

[@lucyadams2790]

Actually that's true....but the devil now what's his wager...and that wager must be payed...no escape...watch Trudeau and Macron...Freeland..Jagmeet and others run for the hills...make no mistakes...the devil will not be fiddled out the wager...[God Bless ]

[@maccagrabme]

Better to wait for LePen to become president and Macron to deal with all the sh1t.

[@catsnmi270]

Yes, all freemasons swear an oath to their master, Baal!

[@petergouvignon8048]

good luck Britain your immigration problem just went through the roof

[@catsnmi270]

Never fear, when Gesara is announced the illegals will all hot foot it home!

[@dorianshadesofgray2981]

France snatching defeat from the jaws of victory

[@Leah-ju8ht]

....yeah...with a small "v"

[@michaelbrown865]

Do not discount the EU's part in this disaster. Decades of left liberal supranational government with a political currency that has destroyed European competitiveness to obtain the achievement of the United States of Europe. The EU is now a curse, an anachronism

[@stephendalton1648]

France. It used to be a country

[@gerrycallaghan5519]

Europe is in some mess.

[@SmasherDobson8443]

Deliberately getting shut down by some folks they built China and brics etc they don't need Europe now so they destroyed from within and now they are getting ready to move

[@johannabarry4672]

Sadly so are we.

[@davidsivills3599]

It's collapsing and starmer wants to take us back in madness.

[@nadominhoca]

The EU bloc will fall at some point....

[@rumblefish3290]

​@@nadominhocaobviously 🤡

[@sfdanceron1]

LOL!!! 2027, that's assuming there still is a France.

[@londonhodnet4079]

Very true

[@tx9qr]

More like islam republiek France

[@rtgh2010]

I started to think all voting is rigged. France has ended up pretty much the same as the Uk. The entire system is broken. I think all countries should be split into left-wing and right -wing and everyone moves into the area under that political party and system. I am fed up of 30 years of liberalism even the tories or centre left really. I think Europe and Uk is a breaking point.

[@ModernPict]

no politcal solution will fix this

[@user-jq1ll3hm8x]

@@ModernPict Im in the US and we are the same. The majority are tired of liberalism, but they cheat and lie at everything and the conservatives are spineless and don't legally respond. The last 4 Dem presidents were COMPLETELY corrupt. Liberals are the scum of the earth.

[@orsoncart1547]

Really? How come they didn't rig it for Farrage to lose, and Macron to win then? Silly statement. Too many right wingers are old so who's going to do the work in their area?

[@rb1062]

Pretty much started over the pond in 2020.

[@louismccarthy2541]

In weeks and months those that live on the left would be begging to live on the right …

[@calanmacleod3948]

Macron,” if I’m not having it, I’ll destroy it “

[@ansc6472]

The Islamic republic of France

[@nannysfolly]

It's the WEF New World Order. It hasn't played out as expected in Canada, so now, they'll destroy France.

[@davidedbrooke9324]

There’s no “far right” threat.

[@janpetersen7440]

France is in a little more chaos today than yesterday - nothing new in that.

[@francescostello1377]

Really, so is the UK nothing new about that one either, Germany is next with little Sholtz. Watch alternative media, with the Duran with Alex Christoforou and Alexander Macouris for the real political info on this, and our corrupt political system. Also Neil Olivers own pods cast with the wonderful Ivor Cummins, on how things really work in this world.

[@nullbubble791]

The fact that people were allowed to vote for common sense triggered them into rioting

[@sharonalbanese8084]

there's something very odd going on in this election. None of it makes any sense.

[@nullbubble791]

Fra right threat? Can we just call it common sense?

[@onedayagogo]

being patriotic or nationalistic is not racist. if it is then why did France send so much money to Ukraine ? 🤔

[@jansoltes971]

Everyone is allowed to be patriotic except for Western Europeans.

[@captnaberystwyth2879]

The party with the most votes came in 3rd.. Yay democracy!

[@johnhill7889]

Seems we have a similar rigged system in the UK.

[@minimaxmiaandme.4971]

This is so shameful, I was hopeful for La Pen, we need to make sure the popular vote is the vote that matters.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Who is "we?"

[@user-ee1zb1fn3y]

​@@l.w.paradis2108the majority of patriotic French who live in the countryside who don't want their services cut and given to immigrants who don't want to integrate. That's who "we" clearly refers to. That's LePens platform.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@user-ee1zb1fn3y Are you from there?

[@joycegibbs5267]

they will never let that happen 💔💔

[@joycegibbs5267]

@@l.w.paradis2108sane people !

[@summer031977]

How is that democratic? Ganging up against a party instead of voting for a party?

[@Her.Serene.Feline.Cuteness.]

I never thought I'd live to see the day when the French people were denied democracy. I am Australian and I have long admired the sheer ballsiness of the French people in contrast to the apathy here. They keep their governments in check. This is shocking. Marine Le Pen is being robbed of her democratic right.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

She won 33% of the votes in the first round. That means 67% did not vote for her party. In the second round, she did increase her vote to about 38%. That means that still, over 60% did not vote for her party. She didn't "do so well" because she didn't get the votes she needed to win. "Gang up" 😂😂😂

[@stevejames9261]

@@l.w.paradis2108 Similar to the Labour party then? 67% didn't vote for them.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@stevejames9261 Labour is no concern of mine. They are just another neolib globalist pro-banker party. I'm glad Corbyn won.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@stevejames9261 Oh my goodness, my reply that criticized Labour disappeared really fast. 😂

[@crazy-diamond7683]

Just like the UK now then

[@davidrenton]

the movement towards the right, anti immigration is unstoppable, it's a delay ,but the outcome is the same, all across Europe, the US , it's happening, the West will be saved. I can see it in the people. i'm more optimistic that this decline will be reversed , the people have had it, and Patriots will win

[@spg5658]

Exactly

[@orsoncart1547]

Reform only got a couple of hundred thousand more votes than UKIP did in 2015, and we have a Labour landslide in the UK and a left wing government now in France with Le Penn in 3rd place.

[@plummetplum]

I'm not so sure about that. When idiots continue to vote for the left and our demographics changing rapidly it my be untenable

[@kaykitchen9540]

Let’s hope,so but I have doubts and believe most of western cointries’ elections are rigged these days

[@jessicaandtrains7768]

In a mess. Just like every other "advanced" country in Europe and most of the world. Isn't it funny that all these countries are experiencing exactly the same issues. Like as if it's all planned.

[@ianbeacham117]

It's not about winning or loosing but dividing the people

[@lisamari941]

Yeah, colonization and plundering of resources can cause a lot of displacement. Who knew those actions could cause mass migration??

[@stuartdear1187]

Give the 'far right' label a rest.

[@stan_austin]

Europe is falling…..

[@dinerics]

America is doing great! We are the promise land!

[@alffuergregor]

How can she have more votes but fewest seats?????

[@kaykitchen9540]

Much the same as Nigel Farage in UK - sadly democracy is a joke in most western countries these days

[@georgiakerek7999]

Like Reform in UK!

[@georgiakerek7999]

How on earth earth to even consider voting for the Far Left!

[@stevensibbet5869]

France has a crap electoral system, France doesn't have proportional representation.

[@oliver0liver]

if thats far right then whats wrong with it? nothing.

[@kevinrobb86]

So they are in the same state as the UK so if the UK and France are bankrupt safe to say there will be others and it seems Germany is on the decline too

[@imbonkers3629]

Uk usa France Germany Italy Spain Greece Portugal Japan Canada and others were fkd 😮

[@jenbee483]

If there is anything left in three years.

[@RockStar2068]

If you do not support the WEF agenda you are far right.......

[@harry3069]

I think this is the best analysis of the situation in France that I have heard. Excellent.

[@michaelnordin2662]

Le Pens' National Rally got 10,110,013 votes in the second round, beating Macrons party group with 6,692,365 votes and the Left wing with 7,040,232 votes, who got 2, 000, 000 votes less than in the first round - but the NR got fewer seats in Parliament due to the electoral system, and the cohabitation between Macron and the left!

[@ushiefreebird7470]

It is absolutely shameful

[@Peachy08]

There once a beautiful country called France.

[@heshaeza]

you got beautiful on the ruins of African countries you colonized and exploited its resources . no point explaining .... a racist will always be racist, no cure

[@londonhodnet4079]

Imagine ten million people not paying taxes

[@heshaeza]

do you realize that most of Muslims there are legal , working and paying taxes???

[@TheHeninhardenne]

Sounds like they want to replace disbelievers with believers. Islam has many verses talking about replacing disbelievers forexample: Sahih Muslim 1767a, It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim. And Quran 6:6 "Have they not seen how many ˹disbelieving˺ peoples We destroyed before them? We had made them more established in the land than you. We sent down abundant rain for them and made rivers flow at their feet. Then We destroyed them for their sins and replaced them with other peoples."

[@muhadbarre1821]

Your quotation could be right or wrong, nevertheless, when Quran was revealed the disbelievers it was talking were Arabs rejecters of prophet's message, who were also wagging war against him. In 7th century nobody was talking neither Europe or North America. Try not to excite those whom you think will harm poor Muslims like Gaza Muslims.

[@lisamari941]

Sounds familiar, people have got to stop weaponizing religion and stop following people that do. ALL RELIGIONS!

[@hoolydooly5799]

I am still SHOCKED.

[@lucyadams2790]

Terrible Twins, Macron and Trudeau, both joined at the Hips.

[@samfarrah6310]

They’ll try it here in the UK 100%

[@davidrenton]

it comes to a point where the people who built and keep the country going keep on getting done by people who hate the country The time will come where those people who are France just take power , not ask for permission, same applies to the UK

[@abigailkannai484]

Yeah but its the stupid French that voted for this

[@janeburke147]

I agree 👍🏻

[@anthonythompson1680]

@@davidrenton Big talk from people who wouldn’t sacrifice anything if it meant missing their Saturday afternoon pint. You have too much to lose because contrary to all your whinging you are still living on easy mode compared to others worldwide.

[@davidrenton]

@@anthonythompson1680 don;t drink m8, have'nt been to a pub in 10 years

[@JohnnySmith-to7jw]

The Communists are in power in France ... très jolie ... Workers of France, unite!.... let's sing "The Internationale"

[@dm.b7560]

This is the same they did in Spain years ago.... Macron will end staying in power

[@richardmurphy9006]

The Munchausen on display was truly bizarre and extra lashings of schadenfreude

[@Nuttah64]

Reform UK❤

[@terryblevins2516]

Was this done on purpose?? Sounds very shady and very scary!!! 😮

[@trevaudio]

Perfectly democratic !

[@georgerj2419]

Some of the French voters are bizarre.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

Not as bizarre as these two. Wouldn't want to cross paths with them at night.

[@MrCarcass1978]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣​@@l.w.paradis2108

[@jansoltes971]

Infected by mind virus.

[@alistermacpherson7120]

Could also read that some French voters are enlightened & are capable of making informed decisions

[@l.w.paradis2108]

@@alistermacpherson7120 Many, in fact.

[@gino2465]

Uk will go this route. At some point Muslims will.take our goverment legally

[@involuntarilychad4048]

Muslims and a slave army of feminists, lesbians and soyboy cucks.

[@Dlajhhd]

Fake Propaganda and Racist

[@imbonkers3629]

Muslims are 6.4% of our population, people need to get of there arses and vote especially local elections and get our councils back from them 😊

[@Smj1303]

Handed to them on a silver platter you mean

[@janeburke147]

It will be given to them ,no questions asked.

[@jonathansimmons5353]

Low level civil war. -soldiers on the streets for over 20 years operation vigipirate/ sentinel -riot police CRS on standby countrywide.. -no go zones around french cities.. -crime through the roof..(read actu17) -high unemployment... - low pay.. -rolling strikes..

[@raveninblack]

The democratic system in France is not very fair by the seems of it. I can’t see anything being stable in France for a long time.

[@name-ce7sn]

Recount.

[@topcat9350]

Sees off far right & let’s in far left pathetic politics at its finest

[@TrueEnglishMan01]

The far left are Europe’s only hope against fascism and corporate banksters.

[@edmonddupris8422]

Geert Wilders standing alone against the madness.

[@kennethrichardson8311]

Far left Kev, far left. I know, it's difficult when far is only and wrongly applied to the right.

[@MohammadFaruk-ob8yq]

Down with fascism

[@TG-ts3xn]

Islamofascism?

[@londonhodnet4079]

Trolling

[@heshaeza]

@@TG-ts3xn no ....your fascism. you supported Israel to destabilize their countries now you reap what you sow

[@sylvielucas8480]

down with fascim?What about islamic fascim?

[@heshaeza]

@@sylvielucas8480 what fascism? we just want to be left alone . bull back Israel from our lands them we will leave your racist countries

[@Phaedrus87]

I have farmed in France, and live in the heart of rural France. This guy is about right. People round here are pretty pissed-off. And pissed.

[@paullangley1938]

not far right just right so far get it right

[@DRIVER-SEBVET]

I said years ago that democracy as we know it is dead, Now a definite win for the people can be turned into a definite loss, really 🤔

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

That 10 million will be 12 million or more by the time of the next election 😁🇬🇧❤🇫🇷

[@user-po2dp7ru2t]

Vichy lost another battle.Democracy has no dead ends.

[@spg5658]

Ten Million votes is a lot. Everyone should pay attention

[@openmind8620]

Excellent analysis - thanks!

[@l.w.paradis2108]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@yr2180]

Glad I could visit France last year. Will probably not ever see it again

[@lusigijustus7274]

The failure to accept responsibility for your government actions indicates sociopathic tendencies. When Libya was invaded by French artillery, not a word of protest from the citizenry. France sniffing around African countries in the sahel region yet you French peoples keeps quiet. Where do you expect those fleeing war instigated by your government to go to? They are desperate, hungry people coming to eat your lunch in Paris, Marseilles, Orleans or wherever they will find it

[@paulsmyth3580]

It will go tits up' if they agreed they would all be in the same party in the first place' waring parties forming a government to keep out the other side never works long term

[@davidfisher7541]

Something smells fishy here it’s going to get worse

[@ludwigotto3557]

The only threat from Le Pen would have been a little sanity.And maybe some hope for the REAL French

[@mendoza6127]

A macwrong is always a macwrong.

[@thistimeisdifferent]

As per the stupid title…Ahh yes that’s right: Populism is “far right” I had almost forgotten.

[@michaelhiggins2562]

Lesson learned? It has to get EVEN worse before they can begin to get things corrected.

[@simonthwaite9136]

Deport me for medical help

[@glennhopkins2643]

How unfortunate.

[@l.w.paradis2108]

The English-speaking world always says the same thing about France.

[@Evansteven244]

If macro can not have France he will destroy it.

[@RajeshSingh-ss8pq]

Love le pen NextGen president of France and save France

[@12alocin]

"The Tiber foaming red" is not far off!

[@TG-ts3xn]

‘Far right’ yawn

[@ouzalghost8411]

What a brilliant report

[@hamzaelezi1209]

Macron should resign

[@ushiefreebird7470]

He will never resign. This idiot thinks he is king of France. Well, we know this did not always end well for them...

[@user-dx8nz1jp4w]

Could one explain why Macron would not take the RN as coalition was he afraid to lose his presidency how could he rather take a far left?

[@ushiefreebird7470]

That is the good question everybody here in France is asking themselves. I believe he completely miscalculated the situation and thought he would win if he ganged up with the lefties. He just did not know how much people hated him. Even his own party asked him to keep a low profile and let his baby PM Attal do the election rallying. Has not helped much either. My guess is he being a psychopath will just ignore the outcome, but Melenchon will give him hell, and France is entering total chaos.

[@adambartlett6277]

If people want to know why we dont have PR in the UK this is one of the reasons

[@TG-ts3xn]

The left will always play games??

[@paulbarrett22]

Gavin is smashing it with this french farce 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@petersclafani4370]

😮prophesy coming true day by day.

[@milabaigar]

France Sounds like the Uk but with a different language 🤦‍♂️

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

This Melanchaun character sounds like bad news for us all.

[@SiL-uj2zl]

Our two circonscriptions in the Indre in the Centre voted either for Macron or LR (the conservatives) so its not true that "swathes of the centre" voted National Rally

[@outlawJosieFox]

A Brit asks whether the French election system is democratic? What? You just said that with a straight face ? Really ? I can vote Green my entire life here in the UK and never have my vote translated into representation. What's fair then ? Our system ? Definitely not!

[@RajeshSingh-ss8pq]

Le pen jindabaad Love le pen dynamic leader of France

[@paulslater9061]

They're all incompetent every last one

[@LeslieOgilvie]

Will Paris burn? I do not think they would be that stupid.

[@ushiefreebird7470]

They are

[@michaelbrown865]

Do not discount the EU's part in this disaster. Decades of left liberal supranational government with a political currency that has destroyed European competitiveness to obtain the achievement of the United States of Europe. The EU is now a curse, an anachronism

[@boazsayar1193]

La Méditerranée traverse la Algerie comme la Seine traverse Paris.

[@JamesOBrien-dm1dd]

"Psycho Killer. Qu'est-ce que sait?"

[@DRIVER-SEBVET]

So if you want law and order to reign without interference, fairness and freedom of speech, People who want to come into your country be vetted, Against illegal immigration, Basically a nationalist, you're "far right 🤔"... Sign me up....

[@canman5060]

French Revolution part 2 is coming up.

[@del5924]

Their problem.

[@dezzodarling]

A coalition of every party! Hahahahah ! What a cock-up!!! Only the French could compose this comedy!!

[@christopherelworthy9640]

Sounds like the Bastille may be going to re opened and Le place de la Concorde swept and tidyed for the return of a certain madame 🤔😏

[@thornbird6768]

Fix , thats how these things happen 😮 ask Biden !

[@starcade90]

Turkeys voting for Christmas.