The CRAZY NBC BROADCASTING CONTROVERSY of the 1989 NFL Season

In week 9 of the 1989 NFL season, the Cincinnati Bengals were playing the Los Angeles Raiders at 4:00, and the Cleveland Browns were playing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 1:00. In Dayton, Ohio, which is a secondary market of the Bengals, the NBC affiliate was supposed to switch to the Bengals game at 4:00 when it started. However, thanks to a bizarre controversy, and a bit of coordination by Browns fans, that did not happen. This is the story behind the controversy between NBC, Dayton, and the Bengals in 1989
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[@DolFan316]

Fun fact: the '88 and '89 Bengals had the exact same point differential at +119. The '88 team went to the Super Bowl. The '89 team finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs.

[@stevenbauer4799]

its called sam wyche. he had one great season in '88 (with no power teams in the afc who were fodder for nfc at the time), but was basically a marginal coach living off of the fact he ran walsh's west coast offense in sf. his next gig in tb was a disaster.

[@ricknibert6417]

Don't forget that Wyche replaced Lee Corso at Indiana in 1983.

[@stevenbauer4799]

@@ricknibert6417 who can forget. another bad period of hoosier football.

[@joshmorgan838]

@@stevenbauer4799 Buffalo was a good team that year and everyone was jocking them as the overwhelming afc favorite. The Bengals ran a power running game that took deep shots off Boomer’s play action and long passing ability. That marginal Coach Wyche also used and was the creator of the hurry up offense. And by the way, that Bill Walsh West Coast offense was first used and created when he was the offensive coordinator of the Bengals in the 70’s, so it technically is the Cincinnati Offense.

[@stevenbauer4799]

@@joshmorgan838 NO technically that was paul brown and the browns offense of the '60's. he created it. other teams like vikes, g men also used it as a ball control offense to keep their sub par d's off of the field. fran t. has already stated that. paul brown brought it to cincy when he arrived there. it was paul browns offense-which walsh learned while on his staff-all along. bengals just borrowed it.

[@82dorrin]

You'd think TV affiliates would learn their lesson eventually. But it seems like these things still happen.

[@LIFEWITHTHEJONESES1]

Yep! A bunch of non sports fan running a network

[@jerryjanik480]

So true

[@reedr7142]

Great research-yet another reason I don’t miss the NFL. Screw their perennial nonsense.

[@Skinnyd4]

I have a former friend - a Steeler fan -who doesn't understand the idea of secondary markets. He and his family live about three miles from the Mason-Dixon line and he hates that they get the Ravens there, and he was complaining to me about this one Sunday. When I explained to him that where he lives is Ravens country, he said something about how they should show a PA team because it's PA. I then told him that by that logic, they should actually be showing Eagles games because they are much closer to Philly then Pittsburgh. Then he said, "Can we talk about something else?"

[@DolFan316]

Sounds like a far leftist when you hit them with actual facts. No wonder he's a former friend.

[@PAGoTribe1963]

My dad had the same complaint about the station in Youngstown, OH that would always show the Steelers games. "The station is in Ohio; they should be showing the Browns!"

[@encycl07pedia-]

When did you guys stop being friends? Was it over this?

[@CatsClaw44]

Sounds like a Trump supporter

[@yunglo9394]

@@PAGoTribe1963 depending on cable provider and area in the Youngstown market, you can watch the Cleveland station for the Browns. Hell, Spectrum still carries WOIO, the Cleveland CBS affiliate in Youngstown to this day (albeit in SD)

[@ciesaro]

One of my favorite names in NFL history. Thane Gash

[@luisreyes1963]

Now I know why the majority of NFL games are now in the clutches of video streaming services like Amazon Prime & Hulu. Too many clusterf*cks by the networks. 😩

[@Wildcat_Media]

Funny thing is that people DO get that fired up about serious issues like education and the homeless. Problem is every is fired up about different solutions and it becomes a fricking trainwreck. Great video, I do not envy channel 22 that day.

[@gothard5]

where I live in southern ohio, the Steelers games always get top priority which sucks as a Bengals fan. I hate it.

[@teen_laqueefa]

What county?

[@footwork216]

Tangentially related. The 1989 season was crazy, especially in the AFC and the AFC Central in particular. Going into the last week of the season, I believe the only AFC teams not still in the running for a playoff berth were the Jets, Patriots and Chargers. The AFC Central ended up getting three teams in and the odd thing about that is that the Bengals may have been the best team in the division (5-1 against the division with the only loss being on a last second FG in Houston on Monday night) and missed the playoffs. While the team that was considered the worst team in the division, the Steelers (1-5 against the division with the only win being a revenge game in Cleveland after the Browns destroyed them 51-0 on opening day) not only made the playoffs but won a road game in Houston and then went to Denver and nearly knocked off the top seeded Broncos. The Bengals had a first place schedule after winning the division in '88, but the games that really cost them the playoff spot were the home losses to Indy, Miami and Seattle, teams that while in the playoff mix, should not have gone into Cincy and won with the way the Bengals were capable of playing, especially at home.

[@DolFan316]

I remember the Bengals-Vikings finale literally being a de facto playoff for both teams, as in the winner was in and the loser was out. It was also on Monday night back when the NFL still had teams play season finales then. A whole lot more interesting to me then a mandatory ho-hum division matchup always being the finale for every team now.

[@footwork216]

Exactly, it was win and in for both teams. I remember they had Don Majkowski on the air during the game, because the Packers would have been in if the Vikings lost.

[@stevenbauer4799]

appropriate oilers helped eliimate bengals since wyche and glanville hated each other and one would roll up the score on the other (at home-oilers were typical dome team then) if they got up by a big enough score for three seasons. and three rivers was a house of horrors for browns. i think they won like only one time there in 30 seasons.

[@pronkb000]

That Seahawks loss (which had its own officiating controversy that I think JG9 did a video about) was the "YOU DON'T LIVE IN CLEVELAND, YOU LIVE IN CINCINNATI!" game.

[@KevinStone-bf5ey]

I love the giant ad that says "Baldness" in big bold letters at the 13:20 mark.

[@srikothur2845]

I love every episode that you do on these topics. I have dreamt about this content since I was 7 years old. Thank you. People need to appreciate how much research this takes. I certainly do. Go Jags!

[@one1blue]

Bengals always get screwed. Next time you’re watching the draft just wait until the Bengals draft selection, it will 110% go to commercial every time, every year, without fail.

[@DolFan316]

As a DolFan I feel your pain. After that '72 season (and maybe even a little before) the sports media decided to collectively despise them and keep on doing it to this day.

[@jamesonbolen9058]

I'm from Dayton played QB at Miami(OH) for a year as a FR that was about six string with oddly enough both these teams nightmare for nearly 2 decades Ben Roethlisberger.. I had a couple friends and an Uncle who liked Cle but of the 10-15 Browns fans I could go down my FB friend list and name 100 Bengal fans.

[@teen_laqueefa]

Oxford baby!

[@wyattgrove4468]

9:38 Oh, you have got to be kidding me.

[@brandonbarnett592]

Absolutely crazy Dayton to Cincinnati 56 miles.... Dayton to Cleveland 211 miles....

[@Davepool-hs7vr]

Do a video on the Browns announcing they were leaving Cleveland

[@anthonyclark6222]

I'm from Cincinnati but I know a lot of people that live in Dayton. Dayton is a extremely pro Bengals town . Especially with anybody under 50 years old

[@youmustbethistall5861]

Today, yes. In the 80's it was quite the debate among us Dayton-ites...y'know, we geezers. LOL

[@iNique89]

Wow I was born on the 2nd that Thursday… so this was my first NFL Sunday

[@markbrian7179]

I feel sorry for the people that had to work the phone lines.

[@hrtvfan2870]

Can you imagine if you had an older employee who was with NBC at the time of the Heidi Game having to deal with this almost exactly 21 years later?

[@aaronholcomb237]

The Raiders scored 14 points in a game that part of the viewing audience missed. Where have we heard that before?

[@harrymann5523]

That was Tom Hammond and Joe Namath calling the Browns/Bucs game on NBC

[@CTubeMan]

At 13:03 you show an ad that says, “Baldness “It’s your choice””. I’m sorry, WHAT?! Baldness (or at least my rapidly receding hairline) is not my choice!

[@kd67876]

I got a good laugh out of that. Just wait and be prepared, if you look up tips for shaving your head, you will get ads/suggested videos for all kinds of hair restoration crap. Ironically it happens a lot on baldcafe, a channel devoted to helping guys accept it, smh. How some things havent changed.

[@DolFan316]

It's truly amazing that despite all the baldness cures out there, guys still go bald even if they're billionaires. Almost like none of those products work at all, or something.

[@teen_laqueefa]

I got a different ad, but that is a good comment on a bad attempt at selling empowerment to a desperate demographic

[@TheSonicsean]

11:10 I can't believe NBC flip flopped on flipping. Also at 12:50 Bo knows speed.

[@teen_laqueefa]

My neck of the woods

[@JTD98PSN]

I live in Sandusky Ohio Cleveland is the nearest sports city. Every year like 2 games don’t get shown a year instead it’s some NFC South team

[@WaltGekko]

Today, in that situation, one game would have been on FOX (most likely Browns-Bucs) and the other would have been on CBS (most likely Bengals-Raiders). This was why in my opinion along with many other games that ran past the 4:00 PM ET scheduled finish the NFL was finally able to get the FCC in 1998 (when the current NFC on FOX-AFC on CBS setup began) to relax the rules about the 7:00-8:00 PM (6:00-7:00 PM CT) "access hour" being restricted to news or newsmagazines or children's programming, something many churches insisted on the FCC enforcing with limited exceptions as especially back then, many churches associated professional sports with gambling and considered college sports to be "pure." By the time we began having the doubleheader games beginning at 4:15 (now 4:25) PM ET with the 1998 season (and the singleheader late games at 4:05 PM ET), the Catholic Church in particular had lost a lot of its pull in no small part because of scandals among priests that began to fester in the mid-1990's, weakening the authority they once had. Plus by 1998, our society had changed dramatically from where it was even in 1989 (and even by 1989 it had changed significantly) to closer to what it is now, and that was in 1998 with the internet still relatively in its infancy and nothing like it is now.

[@demynngashepherd8588]

In 89 their was and still is more Browns fans in Dayton, the Bengals has aways been 2nd fiddle in Ohio except 96,97,98

[@scottybbadd]

I had his happen to me this last season. I was watching the 1st game of the CBS double header which was coming to a compelling ending, but the CBS affiliate had to switch to the Cowboys game the 2nd game of the CBS double header. What did I do complain, no, I switched to my phone and Yahoo sports, which I was watching the FOX game on. Streaming services don't have to switch.

[@youmustbethistall5861]

Thanks for this memory; I remember this situation fairly well, even if I don't really remember much about the games themselves. This just happened to be the "perfect storm" for a Kobyashi Maru type of day. Dayton in the 80's was very evenly divided (with maybe a slight edge to Browns) even if NBC thought Dayton was the secondary market. Remember, some exec makes that decision with a compass as they evaluate their viewing areas for the various shows; the NFL just happened to be a polarizing product in Dayton alone. For just over 60 years, Dayton NFL fans had the only choice being the Browns. When the Bengals expanded in 68, Dayton became a split city fan wise; those who changed to follow the Bengals were predominantly angry that Art Modell fired Paul Brown, and showed allegiance to Paul Brown by becoming Bengals fans. During the 89 season you still had a slightly greater number of Browns fans in Dayton - in fact, Monday's following the NFL games, the Browns/Bengals discussions could be quite heated. It was just the culture at that time.

[@pablosanchez6558]

So Bengals fans missed 30 minutes of their team being blown out? That’s a blessing

[@footwork216]

If I were a Bengal fan, I would have stopped being pissed about this when the game ended. After Boomer got hurt early and they had to go the rest of the way with Erik "Jeff Carlson in disguise" Wilhelm and Bo ran through, over, around and past my defense, my only anger at the affiliate would be that they even bothered to switch it over at all and make me watch any of the ass-beating my team just took. I watched this one live, JIP as well because the Bills - Falcons game also ran late, and I remember it being decidedly uncompetitive, even as games with 3 TD margins go. It could gave been 45-7 the way the actual game went on the field. The one thing the NFL learned in all of this was to eventually change the start times of late DH games to prevent some of this from happening. Even 4:25 sometimes isn't late enough, the way replay, injuries and penalties slow down the game.

[@stevenbauer4799]

that's the game where after falcons finally scored late one player started talking s#it to bills to which they just pointed to the scoreboard and laughed.

[@footwork216]

I think that was the 1992 game in Buffalo. In '89 the Bills scored a very late TD to take the lead then the Falcons somehow got a guy behind the Bills defense for a long pass with a few seconds left and the Falcons kicked a FG to win it 30-28.

[@footwork216]

It actually was VERY reminiscent of the Bills - Chiefs playoff game this past season. Falcons got a TD to take the lead, then Don Beebe took the kickoff 80 something yards to set up a Bills TD with 29 secs left, then the Falcons got a long pass to Stacey Bailey I think, to set up a long (50 yards or so) FG from Paul McFadden to win it. It might have been the biggest upset of that entire season, looking back at it. I know some people would say Dallas over Washington on Sunday night, and that would be valid too.

[@stevenbauer4799]

@@footwork216 it could have been. i know it was in buffalo with a similar type score.

[@DolFan316]

@@footwork216 Yeah, 1-15 beating 10-6 is a bit more of an upset than 3-13 beating 9-7 (which is still pretty big). Another fun fact: the '88 and '89 Bills had the exact same +92 point differential despite the '88 team winning 3 more games.

[@scottfischer6029]

Why wouldn't game be on in Cleveland? It's a road game in Tampa , I'm confused

[@DolFan316]

SO...this entire controversy was all Thane Gash's fault! *WHY THANE WHY?!?!* Conspiracy theory: Gash faked his injury to make the game go long because he was in on the plot by Browns fans to keep the Bengals game from being shown. EDIT: According to PFR Gash started the Seahawks game the next week. So his dramatic injury wasn't even that serious at all. I was only joking about the conspiracy but now I think it might be real...

[@lightningmcseed7303]

This is why Cleveland should have stayed in the NFC

[@coryspang7548]

My dad would've known about this, being from Dayton. He never told me about this. I'm probably going to send this to my dad at some point.

[@BrynosWorld]

Daytonian here, and I somewhat remember a similar incident around that time period (late 80s/early 90s), but this time they did things by the book. I was a kid, and the Browns were playing at 1 and the Bengals at 4-ish. IIRC the Browns game (don't remember which one) was close heading towards the end, but, of course, it was running long. A prompt then came on the TV saying that because of the NFL broadcast rules, they were cutting away to the start of the Bengals game. My dad, a firm Browns fan, was ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS. Fortunately for us, we also had access to a giant antenna, and he was able to arrange it so that we could still watch the end of the game from the fuzzy Cleveland over-the-air feed.

[@haveman32]

Love your vids. You do a great job and they are well done. My problem isn’t with you. You probly don’t have control of this. It’s with the KZbin ads popping up every minute that makes them hard to watch sometimes.

[@ECG3485]

Years ago, there were no interruptions during videos. The ads would always be at the beginning and end. Nowadays, without a premium sub to YT, the ads are just a constant mood killer.

[@DolFan316]

@@ECG3485 That's why I have adblocker on Chrome. I see zero ads.

[@haveman32]

@@ECG3485 true. Totally agree with you. I didn’t mind an ad or two at the begin of vids.

[@taytay8283]

Fans can be so crazy and over the top sometimes

[@TheSonicsean]

Yeah seriously, death threats because you can't see a football game? Come on. Plus very very very few people were playing fantasy football in 1989.

[@DolFan316]

American sports fans have nothing on soccer fans in other nations when it comes to mass psychotic behavior.

[@altfactor]

Today when a network carries a Sunday afternoon doubleheader, the early games start at 1:05 P.M. ET and the late games start at 4:25 P.M. ET.

[@martinoamello3017]

HA! My mom worked at Chanel 22 back then.. Inconvenient, but she just took the phone off the hook.. Problem solved.

[@ericdunbar6230]

Ohioans are directly challenged and yes I'm from Ohio. Cincinnati is about an hour from Dayton. Cleveland is 3 hours. Indianapolis is closer at 2 hours. I've never seen a Colts fan from Dayton or a demand for a Colts game. Dayton should pick up Cincinnati games based on location.

[@michaeloptv]

….and that is why games started to be pushed back to 4:15 and now 4:25 for doubleheader’s 😐😯 But seriously the channel caved to browns fans. That’s like the Patriots caving to a Jets game. You don’t do that….and I’m sure people in Connecticut have seen this problem but that’s hopefully for another day.

[@demonof9]

You do such great Videos. Where do you get all these topics.

[@riversidepark4107]

I grew up halfway between Cincinnati and Dayton, and while certainly today Dayton is Bengals territory, before the 1995 move the Browns were the most popular team in most of Ohio outside the immediate Cincinnati metro area. A lingering legacy is that Dayton’s CBS station, WHIO, will broadcast the Browns games in Butler, Warren and Clinton Counties with WKRC, Cincinnati’s CBS broadcasting the Bengals game. Giving the people who live in the in between suburbs both teams regularly.

[@chrisb7528]

I'm from Dayton and when Boomer played there were more Bengals fans but the Browns fans were bigger assholes for sure.

[@user117831]

That's because the Browns have been around much longer than the Bengals. When the Bengals came in 1968, Hardly anyone outside of Cincinnati change their team preference.

[@youmustbethistall5861]

Long time Browns fan, and this is how I recall it. In fact, the local affiliates were polling viewers for their watching preferences and were making local feed decisions week-to-week and trying to juggle the fanbase for best results. Then eventually the networks stepped in and prevented any local affiliate from providing anything other than the network feed. This was mostly tied to the newer Local Ticket Blackout rules (along with new PSL seat licensing).

[@carloscolon3331]

Is there anybody in this comment section from Dayton Ohio

[@teen_laqueefa]

I'm in Middletown

[@altfactor]

San Jose is part of the San Francisco TV market.

[@DolFan316]

Fun fact: this was the second highest rushing yardage game total of Bo Jackson's career. Fun fact #2: The Bengals were the only team Jackson had 100-plus yards rushing against twice. Fun fact #3: Jackson was well on his way to yet another such game against them in the playoffs before the career ending injury thing happened (6 carries, 77 yards).

[@penileshenanigans2613]

all of these actually were fun facts

[@bobholt6217]

None of those were fun facts at all.

[@penileshenanigans2613]

@@bobholt6217 the duality of man

[@CatsClaw44]

Fun fact: The Bengals went to the Super Bowl, Cleveland Browns nor Bo Jackson did that.

[@penileshenanigans2613]

@@CatsClaw44 not a fun fact, an obvious fact that you only posted because you got butthurt about something that happened over 30 years ago. 0/10.

[@psm9774]

hamake a video of when TJ Houshmandzadehse cleaned his shoes with the terrible towel🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and the steelers cried for that "insult"🤣

[@UserName-ts3sp]

bengals got what they deserved about a month after that

[@MrJamieBattle]

5:38 oh that game where 5 million field goals were missed and Tom Grossi went ape on his Packast. That was a Sunday i won’t forget.

[@altfactor]

Prior to 1970, weren't all Cleveland Browns games televised in Cincinnati?

[@michaelmiller44820]

In 1989, the Browns were way more popular in Ohio then "The Bungles" and it's not even close... I remember when this happened because it affected our viewing as well... In fact, my dad was one of those angry Browns fans calling NBC...

[@encycl07pedia-]

I thought they gained the Bungles moniker in the 1990s. They went to the freaking Super Bowl in 1988-89, the very year before.

[@michaelmiller44820]

@@encycl07pedia- True, but they were still "The Kid Brother" to the Browns... You know, the whole Paul Brown connection and whatnot... My dad ALWAYS called them the Bungles, even while watching them in the Super Bowls... Maybe he was an early adopter or something...? lol

[@encycl07pedia-]

@@michaelmiller44820 Yeah, it was silly how similar the Browns and Bengals were early on (in terms of gear, at least). IDK. Any animosity of Browns fans towards the Bengals should be directed at Art Modell, IMO. If he didn't fire Paul Brown, the Bengals may never have existed, at least the ones we know.

[@michaelmiller44820]

@@encycl07pedia- Oh, believe me, there's no love loss between my family and the Modells... In fact, when Art died, I texted my dad and his reply was simply "Outstanding!" lol

[@marcus813]

0:26 San Jose, San Francisco and Oakland are in the same TV market, so San Jose would work for the 49ers the same way that Poughkeepsie, N.Y. would work for NYC. Those sets of cities are not in the same situation as Dayton and Cincinnati, which are in different TV markets.

[@CTubeMan]

As the video pointed out the Raiders were in Los Angeles at the time.

[@MrT8599]

I'm surprised you didn't say, "If you live in Rochester NY, you expect to be able to watch the Bills."

[@CTubeMan]

This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following: 1. How Cowboys fans bullied Jimmy Johnson that same year to start Ed “Too Tall” Jones so he could keep alive his consecutive games streak*. 2. A similar dilemma faced by the NBC affiliate in Sacramento in 1992.

[@Donald38]

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[@TimmyTickle]

I'm guessing #2 involved the 49ers?

[@CTubeMan]

@@TimmyTickle Yep

[@encycl07pedia-]

Why is there an asterisk after "streak"?

[@CTubeMan]

@@encycl07pedia- Jones left the NFL to pursue boxing in 1979, so there was a question as to whether his streak should have restarted when he came back.

[@outlawrip-offartist4161]

I will never understand why people send different to other people over sports.

[@stevengrvp]

Great a bo Jackson video in a way

[@cdprince768]

Nice to know that after 3 decades, the NFL still does the same thing.

[@DolFan316]

All of society is doing the same thing these days. The loud complainers keep getting their way and making things worse for everyone.

[@fromthehaven94]

​@@DolFan316 Especially on Friday.

[@RetroJR3379]

Normally it would be on the station stupidity but in this case we cant really blame the station

[@jasonfischer8946]

One way to shorten the game is not stopping the clock when a runner goes out of bounds when it just going to restart when the ball is set. That's such a stupid rule.

[@altfactor]

Isn't Dayton, Ohio close enough to Cincinnati that viewers there could watch WLWT, the NBC station in Cincinnati? FYI, the NBC affiliation in Dayton moved back to WDTN a few years back.

[@philossifer2876]

Admittedly, I moved from Dayton in 1981, but I can tell you we could get Cincinnati TV stations without cable.

[@jerseyfla]

Depends on where in the Dayton area you lived. I lived in Fairborn and couldn’t get any Cincy stations at all. I had better luck getting a few Columbus stations.

[@philossifer2876]

@@jerseyfla Kettering. Must have been just south enough.

[@johnnysama]

August 30, 2004 is when WDTN reversed its 1980 swap with WKEF.

[@robclay7037]

Need to do a video of the sam weish in game announcement you dont live in cleveland you live in Cincinnati why he said that what was the back story

[@whataboutrob442]

Back then this happened all the time. Not like a one time occurrence like you are saying.

[@toddsupreme]

I live in Dayton and have all my life. It truly was 50/50 Bengals and browns fans and some Steelers fans mixed in. There were so many Browns fans that were fans in the 50s and 60s before the Bengals existed. I understood both sides. Now they could show both without problems but then we just hoped they wouldn’t cut the game off. We had to turn on the radio to hear the end of the game. And the Bengals were in the Super bowl the previous year. Crazy times. Whodey

[@Fireyninjadog]

Another reason why the Cleveland browns suck

[@coolguyb3311]

Go Browns!!!!

[@benshihadeh8561]

Add to that, Bengals fans whine about everything.

[@ronpeacock9939]

Funny... I would have heard the complaints.. then said.. we have to show Bengals... so we'll show a different 1:00 game than cleveland.. then when they complain.. give them the choice.. NO BROWNS AT ALL or the cutover... can't have both... I'm willing to be the browns fans would have backed down faster than a pizza would disappear at a weight watchers...

[@jerryjanik480]

To only know Buffalo Bills fans and Browns fans would be the only two fanbases that would do this Raiders fans but Bills fans and Browns fans do this

[@HillValley85]

I remember visiting my brother-in-law and his family in Canton, OH; he's a Browns fan. We were going to watch Browns/Ravens in his TV. But, instead, it broadcasted Steelers/Jets, despite the fact that as the crow flies, Canton is closer to Cleveland. It was ridiculous. Strangely enough, we went to a local sports bar and watched Ravens/Browns surrounded with Browns fans on one end and Steelers fans on the other end.

[@crowtservo]

I’m in Iowa and I love going to sports bars and seeing Steelers fans everywhere. Some of them haven’t changed out of their Iowa stuff from the day before and yet the color scheme still works.

[@fromthehaven94]

Columbus, while clearly being outside both Cincinnati and Cleveland markets, still usually gets either a Bengals or Browns game on a weekly basis. Except when one second half doubleheader game happens to be the Eagles vs Patriots- the first game since their Super Bowl meeting. Despite the Browns playing the Steelers on Thursday night, the local affiliate was prevented from showing the Bengals playing at the Oakland Raiders.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

i would've guessed blackout because canton is in the same media market as cleveland if im right

[@kevingreen2400]

Ok this is gonna drive me bonkers. Im getting ready for the usual JaguarGator deep dive on this game when then the clip of the Vikes-Lions Saturday game comes across. I then try to figure what year this was and cannot locate the year/matchup/result for that parameter. Can some one tell me when did the Vikings and Lions play on a Saturday on CBS, with the Lions featuring Barry Sanders? I can only find one matchup in that era but it was 1994 and CBS had lost the NFL to Fox by then. Somebody, pleeeeeeease help me figure what year that clip was from! Thanks. Browns fans are deep in Dayton, and their fans are obnoxious. But Dayton is closer to Cincinnati than Cleveland. Let the Browns fans go to Columbus... But now this likely wouldnt happen as the late games start at 4:25

[@DolFan316]

You are correct. The only time the Lions and Vikings played on a Saturday during Barry Sanders' career was that '94 game. The Lions won 41-19 in Detroit.

[@encycl07pedia-]

It's funny to me considering I'm mainly a CFB fan and the only college team anyone pays attention to in OH is Ohio State. It's almost completely homogeneous when it comes to CFB market. Cincy, Ohio, Toledo, etc. might as well be chopped liver.

[@cat6cableguy81]

@Kevin Green That clip of the Vikings vs Lions advertisement was for Week 15 of the 1981 season. That week there were two games that were played on December 19th which was on a Saturday. The Vikings would play at the Lions and the Jets would play at the Browns. The Quarterback throwing the pass in the clip was Eric Hipple #17 and the person that was #20 in the clip was Running back Billy Sims.

[@akakjb]

Now that we have digital OTA television, cable & streaming, this should never happen again. These days, affiliate has at least one sister station in the market that could easily be used to run either the end of the first game or the start of the second. Just to play it safe, you promote that your other station will be doing this just in case it happens to be running something like Star Trek in that slot. Trust me, the threats from NFL fans are NOTHING compared to the abuse a station used to get if they preempted Trek reruns.

[@PAGoTribe1963]

LOL.

[@encycl07pedia-]

I don't think people care all that much about live TV airing Star Trek, at least most of the newer iterations. I'm pretty sure they peaked with TNG and have been chasing that success ever since.

[@tohaz]

I'd highly doubt that you are capable of any "fancy editing tricks" considering you can't figure out to get rid of the hollow sound in your audio. Or pronounce the T in "Dayton".

[@MarkAHoltz]

Wait, I'm confused. Was this a decision made by the NBC network management or the local NBC affiliate management? This needs clarification since Dayton doesn't sound like they were a top 25 television market back then, and last I looked, they are a number 65 market now.

[@jkminnich]

WKEF was such a poorly run and owned station back then, I’m guessing it was an NBC decision. I don’t see how WKEF would have been allowed to make that choice. However NBC was never happy with being affiliated with WKEF because it was such a poor performer, eventually NBC was able to re-affiliate with their original station in Dayton, WDTN. WKEF is a much better station today however, different ownership & better managed. And now an ABC affiliate.

[@devinmorrison2993]

Where do you find these storylines or how haha?!

[@crowtservo]

The Bengals have fans? 😂

[@DolFan316]

They have a whole lot more of them now after reaching the Super Bowl out of nowhere.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

i live in columbus, and they were the third most popular team here until burrow got drafted. now they're about equal with the browns and above the steelers

[@AdamJ617]

First, off thank you for the Boca Raton shout out, even if you weren’t calling it that. I have a question, though, is there a reason you didn’t say “WKEF”?

[@DolFan316]

Nobody in south Florida calls it Boca Raton, they just call it Boca.

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

Oddly enough, none of the articles I researched listed the station identification. They just referred to it by Channel 22. It was only after I recorded the script and started gathering the clips did I find out the station ID

[@danielbowden6330]

Channel 22 in Springfield? Sounds very western Mass.

[@IMCHROMEEE]

Classic browns fans

[@SuperCrazyDiscoKangaroo9001]

I wonder what the situlation was on that double header in another particular city in Ohio which is the capital of that state, in between those two cities with those NFL teams and their NBC station?

[@TheSonicsean]

Given that Columbus was outside both territories for being a secondary market (about 110 miles from Cinci and 150 from Cleveland) they probably let the station decide. At least I think that's how it worked for channels outside a market (I haven't lived outside a direct NFL city channel market for 20 years now)

[@UserName-ts3sp]

no contractual obligations. they probably showed the browns game. and the browns are more popular than the bengals in columbus

[@stephenking8104]

They actually showed the Bengals game in its entirety in Columbus. I know because I remember watching the Bo Jackson 92 yard TD live.

[@CTubeMan]

Don’t know, but I know I love your name!

[@stevenbauer4799]

did ickey shuffle that day or had the knee blown out already? 12:20 look at bo go. bo knows end zone. even sorry ass qb jay schroeder looked all pro on this day.

[@veggieoilerfan2940]

Ickey’s 1989 season had ended during the Bengals week 2 game against Pittsburgh.

[@DolFan316]

BTW my team beat the Bengals and the Browns that season, back to back. Just sayin'.

[@CatsClaw44]

Yet your team sucked. Fun fact.

[@Donald38]

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[@jreds79]

The 49ers play in san jose, lol.