Great video 👌 Who would have thought they would end up in a quarry !!!
@daz46434 ай бұрын
Another went down there today about 11am ish. I was stuck behind it on the A500. 😃😃
@paulkandi4 ай бұрын
The ground level carefully prepared and all standing on track panels, so defiantly not for scrap, more like temporary storage facility..
@BritishRail600624 ай бұрын
With EMD just down the road at Longport. I have a feeling these are going to be rebuilt by EMD/Progress Rail as they are nearby or if not. Wabtec is likely as they have done wonders with the C44-9W/AC4400CW's into the AC44C6M's that are Tier 4. Maybe something can become of these Class 60's like that. Great video and thanks for sharing.
@class77sncb4 ай бұрын
You may instead buy a useful loco ....there are some class66 to come from the continent..
@HJDore4 ай бұрын
@@class77sncbmost, if not all, class 66’s left on the continent are owned by leasing companies which is not what land recovery wanted. They instead planned to expand their currant rail holding’s operations to owning and operating their own traction which could be used to run aggregate trains for their aggregate and recycling holdings. Unfortunately the deal with DB was done before their announcement to withdrawn the super 60’s else land recovery may have spent a bit more and got running locos until PRL have a working demonstrator for their re engined 60.
@class77sncb4 ай бұрын
@@HJDore There are 2 Locos owned by HGK (Habour and Cargo Cologne ) now Rheincargo ..they were the first in Germany !
@HJDore4 ай бұрын
@@class77sncb Class 66's would likely be out of land recovery's budget as no chance they'd be able to compete with the money any of the leasing companies would front to add more 66's to there stocks. 2 units would fall short as well as i think land recovery are looking for a fleet around 4-5 units strong.
@class77sncb4 ай бұрын
Nice scrapyard !!!
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
Definitely not a scrapyard, these are in temporary storage. It’s probable they will go through a rebuild program somewhat like the class 69, though would require a different engine block
@class77sncb4 ай бұрын
@@andrewreynolds4949 Not only new engine, they have to build an new loco, and the bodyshell has to be modified !!
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
@@class77sncb The idea is to strip out the old internal equipment and fit new systems, while still using most of the old bodyshell (usually the roof would go), bogies etc. It's not really considered a new locomotive. What else they can reuse depends on the condition and compatibility of the components; I know some people were arguing elsewhere over whether they could reuse the generator/alternator assembly with such a rebuild
@class77sncb4 ай бұрын
@@andrewreynolds4949 They should get a new generator and AC traction motors !
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
@@class77sncb The alternators on the class 60 are extremely reliable from what I've heard, unlike the engines, so they would probably like to keep them if they can. There may be issues with drive shaft alignment or similar problems that could prevent that though. The traction motors on the class 56/69 were kept, and I don't know of any particular reason not to keep them. The class 69 kept theirs specifically because it allowed them to get out of a number of safety tests and regulations related to ride quality; it might be the same case here. The big prizes to replace would be the engine block itself and the control systems; the engine block to solve reliability issues, and the control systems would go in favor of the considerably more advanced kind seen in the class 69 (which is an updated version of that on the class 66). That could make a real winner of a locomotive if they can get it all working well.
@TheosTrainsWalesOfficial4 ай бұрын
I hope these locos are saved!
@michaeltaylor18694 ай бұрын
Another cracking video well done great camera work as usual I am really enjoying your lovely videos and camera work keep your lovely camera work up I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on KZbin bye for now Philip
@chris_36364 ай бұрын
60078 was withdrawn with a knackered engine, but I think the rest were more or less intact when switched off.
@nathanlowe5674 ай бұрын
That look like the the Class 90 lineup
@ianmacdougall82294 ай бұрын
They should go down the same route as 60081, completely restored and then put on display.
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
These are likely to be heavily rebuilt. The company wanted a fleet of working locomotives, not a heritage display
@ianmacdougall82294 ай бұрын
@@andrewreynolds4949 Even better.
@alan_mythicalgnome4 ай бұрын
Let's hope they go to preservation rather than scrap.
@Sam_Green____41144 ай бұрын
Are they going to make some good ones from the 8 here ?
@peterwoodley74734 ай бұрын
The one one the left is still standing on wagon ramp left on place so looks like there going somewhere
@trainsfromtheuk2104 ай бұрын
I wondered where 093 was going. I saw it on its travels.
@darrenfitch4 ай бұрын
stupid question but why have they moved them to this quarry?
@HJDore4 ай бұрын
Assuming that Land recovery still intend to progress to owning and operating their own rail traction My guess is that it’s a mix of progress rail not yet having the details worked out to re-engine class 60’s and DB wanting the locos out of toton ASAP.
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
Does Progress Rail have room for all these with the class 69 program ongoing? I’d guess it will stay on the back burner until those are finished
@stephendavies69494 ай бұрын
There's a good chance that a least some of them have a future, apparently
@spinosuchusdude73024 ай бұрын
Could you do eastleigh works
@trainsplanes4 ай бұрын
It’s next to the airport so not possible.
@nialloconnell58954 ай бұрын
My only thought is the fact they have placed them on rails...?
@tombore95164 ай бұрын
What’s going to happen to them 🤔
@gumpoandwordy4 ай бұрын
Scrapped?
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
Rumors say rebuild if this is the group I think it is
@tombore95164 ай бұрын
@@andrewreynolds4949 🤞🤞
@blue2sco4 ай бұрын
Scrapping them there?
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
Storage, i think they wanted a working fleet which suggests a rebuild program
@DMWill654 ай бұрын
All to be turned into steam trains like 046?
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
Definitely not, that’s a silly one-off prototype
@gwr38454 ай бұрын
Been saved I wonder?
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
More likely to be rebuilt. It’s definitely not a preservation group
@gwr38454 ай бұрын
@@andrewreynolds4949 oh not heard of any schemes like the class 69s. I just thought any preserved ones might be stored there temporarily. I did see a couple of the 60s being refurbed at Toton including 60081
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
@@gwr3845 I believe this organization isn't the only buyer; they have 12 I think, condition ranging from possibly quite decent to probably rather poor. The class 69-style rebuild is just speculation based on condition of some of the units, proximity to Progress Rail Longport and the presence of a class 60 shell at that site. It's possible they would get them refurbished along the lines of a 'Super 60' program instead, but I lean towards the more substantial rebuild being more likely after the success of the class 69 program.
@gwr38454 ай бұрын
It's possible
@gwr38454 ай бұрын
Also seems more economical than buying in brand new full designs
@SteveSmithRailways4 ай бұрын
Wouldn't have thought there's a future for these but whilst they're still intact (to a degree), there's hope!
@NewRailBasher4 ай бұрын
Plan is to make a few good ones from a few. Land Recover currently have Colas Rail hauling their wagons with 70s.
@paulbissitt47544 ай бұрын
Don't hold your breath.They are probably minus a lot of parts anyway
@terencemartin36494 ай бұрын
for model railway buffs some think different to model ! !
@davidmccall28974 ай бұрын
A complete waste of diesel power, brilliant locos, not so brilliant now.
@trainman86trainstramsandmore4 ай бұрын
This is so confusing
@28052244 ай бұрын
not close enough to get there numbers i got 12,32,48,84,89,and 93 what were the other 2 and what on earth are you going to do with them
@chris_36364 ай бұрын
I think 043 is there and 078 is the blue one.
@andrewreynolds49494 ай бұрын
Speculation says a rebuild program is in the works