The Crisis of Meaning (feat. Dr. John Vervaeke)

A great discussion with Dr. John Vervaeke, a Psychology Professor at University of Toronto. We discuss the cognition of meaning, what is 'real', the importance of cultivating ecologies of practice and so much else.
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[@ethanman8743]

Ben that was super awesome, and you did a great job dragging out interesting topics from John and adding to the conversation. I’ve been thinking for a while about getting into Vervaeke’s work, and there you were! Really appreciate the video, I definitely will be diving into John’s work and research. And I would absolutely love more profs on the show-as you’ve been doing!

[@nerd26373]

We admire the work that you do on this platform. May God bless you all no matter what.

[@Rablah17]

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[@TheSlashes]

Thx amogus, this means allot coming from you.

[@heyitsJJ3000]

I’m pretty sure this conversation changed my life.

[@Dylonysus]

This was absolutely mindblowing to say the least, especially his points on improving democracy, you were very right in saying those were concrete, I've never heard anyone dissect it on that level before. It also gives me hope for the future too to be honest, definitely revewing this video many times to digest these points more slowly, Thanks for the amazing content !

[@earth2claire]

Wow, so glad to see this collab! Not what I was expecting but I love both this channel and Dr Vervaeke!

[@benhayslip8421]

Been watching Vervaeke’s KZbin videos. Cool stuff!

[@segasys1339]

Outstanding job. One of the best interviews of Vervaeke yet.

[@PaulVanderKlay]

Oh, how did I miss this?! Can't wait to watch it!

[@arono9304]

Such a great crossover episode!

[@captiantoastytm6436]

Okay this is much better than a video about John

[@stephenlaswell4341]

Johnny V: always reminding me that I need to take the time for this ecology of practices. Meditation, contemplation, movement, diologos. I already know I should do it, I just need to do it

[@donny_doyle]

Thank you gentlemen, big fan of both of ya'... please continue the inspiring work.

[@Rogie12]

Thank you Sisyphus for another video

[@error666notfound]

Oh my god I hadn't realized you have this podcast.... this channel is mind-blowing ❤

[@helo218]

I am very highly convinced by his explanations on virtue and wisdom: as a (baby) physicist who uses the complex and dynamical systems frameworks to study nature in a various contexts and disciplines (astrophysics, climate, biophysics and…. even psychology and sociology!), frameworks that have a universality to them, this makes completely total sense. Since all nature according to physics is about adaptation under constraints, maybe wisdom is the conscious fine tuning of that one can grow coming from the place of biological and environmental determinisms. How beautiful!

[@helo218]

(By consciously fine-tuning adaptation under constraints I mean noticing acknowledging and acting about those self-deceptive sides of the environnemental and biological adaptative mechanisms; maybe this is the ultimate meaning behind « know yourself » from Socrate #mindblown)

[@real_pattern]

when John was talking about the inexhaustibility of an object - that's one of Object-Oriented Ontology's insights, developing on heidegger's philosophy of being as not constant presence. it's fascinating! check out timothy morton's dark ecology, being ecological, realist magic, the ecological thought, ecology without nature, but especially the first two to see how OOO works through ecology! it's so awesome!

[@It-me-gog]

Love your stuff dude

[@tnat-]

Great episode! You should do a collab with Philosophise This!

[@wowozer]

love the rambling :D

[@ConfusedApe]

Thank you for this

[@Jiixi]

very interesting thank you

[@KalebPeters99]

Awesome stuff, Ben. Glad to see John on here finally ✨

[@Chucksta-iwnl-]

thank you.

[@mimistar1427]

I find this topic very insightful. I wonder how these topics interplay with people who are neurodivergen. For example, people on the autism spectrum who struggle connecting with themselves and other people.

[@saqlainsajid1274]

John Vervaeke >>>>>> Jordan Peterson

[@vernacularpunc]

please do a video about metamodernism!!

[@rudolfambrozenvtuber]

Could you do a video on Frances Fukuyama?

[@almond5284]

Is there anywhere I can get your podcast that's not on KZbin? I'm about to drive for an hour, no wifi, and it'd be nice to have.

[@maxmcc]

Its on spotify!

[@jhinthevirjhin9339]

@@maxmcc don't u need internet for Spotify?

[@StarmenRock]

@@jhinthevirjhin9339 only if you don't have premium.

[@jhinthevirjhin9339]

@@StarmenRock ohh okay, so same as yt music

[@StarmenRock]

@@jhinthevirjhin9339 id just download the audio via y2mate or something.

[@Reelion]

Is it possible to listen to these podcasts on Spotify?

[@user-lf6rn7ci5n]

yes they're on there

[@TalkThisOut]

wow nice

[@zeldaguy32]

I think we put ourselves "in-formation" to do well on tests but have lost what true education is about.

[@starstenaal527]

Link to John's KZbin channel is broken.

[@crunchylettuce5446]

If it doesn't work I'm sure you can just look up his nane :(

[@crunchylettuce5446]

name :) *

[@le-ore]

it’s @johnvervaeke

[@le-ore]

@@crunchylettuce5446 you can edit your comment :)

[@mortymcfry7944]

Philosophical counseling?

[@timberfinn3131]

Yooo hell yea lol

[@sci-filover7541]

Can you break down for us the philosophy of the new christ called inmendham?

[@sci-filover7541]

There is a meaning to life, the belief that there is no meaning to life is just a product of positive thinking.The meaning is to remain resentful, to agonize over the continuity of the brainless forces that make us. This is not devoid of meaning, you do not feel empty, do not let resentment and depression be called empty! They're inside you, eating you. Give them a recognition.

[@WEEDNUTZ]

HE HAS A FACE????????????????????

[@RedIria]

This is the guy who in his lecture series first outlined a series of grievous harms the church perpetrated and how that led to skeptics, then he referred to those skeptics as "skeptards". - I was in the middle of his whole lecture series when he did this and immediately lost all respect, and quit.

[@mewimagine5920]

What was it about his use of the word "skeptards" that affected you?

[@RedIria]

@Mewimagine "skeptards" was a word Vervaeke made up, it is made to emulate the insult the political far right uses against liberals, which is the amalgamation of "liberal" + "retard" = "libtard". -- Vervaeke was insulting skeptics while losing control of himself as he spoke about something he was convinced of, making him look like every bit of a religious nutter.

[@segasys1339]

That sounds unusual for Vervaeke! Do you have the episode and timestamp of said offense? It's possible you may have misunderstood Vervaeke.

[@RedIria]

@Segasys it has been a few years since I saw that lecture but the comments section was filled with people apologizing on his behalf and commenting on how out of character it was, but to me, it was an impassioned expose of his real feelings

[@segasys1339]

@@RedIria This really does seem out of his step with the constructive tone he always maintains. Everyone makes mistakes, it seems unreasonable not to forgive this one.

[@dropyourself]

bro seems like a centrist and a bit of a quack. Online communities aren't communities, treating them as interchangeable is terrible. Also his praising of social democracy (while ignoring the suffering that they export abroad to stay alive) him acting as if markets should be engrained in schooling (along with other things, but still) and him focusing on the genocide of the USSR, when these great social democracies were either committing genocide, in the case of the colonies, or either literally just committed a genocide, in the case of the fascists (who got into power with the help of socdems). I don't disagree with him entirely on some things but it's just kinda suspicious at points.

[@DoggARithm]

Your character in the thumbnail looks mortified at every guest on this podcast

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