The Crow & The Remake Paradox

[@docsaico]

I really feel like this is a case like in basketball when they retire a jersey; respect the legacy and let it rest. It’s okay to NOT remake this movie. The original film is special and unique and we all know it. You said it beautifully.

[@marvthemartian001]

Too bad they already made the shit sequels

[@PatchworkAndNuance]

Absolutely

[@HellaSayHella]

Yup, totally correct. Unfortunately, they'll continue to put out these schlocky remakes/reboots.

[@salvadorromero9712]

Yeah I found this video very strange. It begins with the explicit premise that "Crow fans" were excited about a remake coming out and had been waiting for a while. Why would they be excited about that? I have certainly never heard any sign of this excitement. If anything I would think what would really excite Crow fans would be the prospect of other Crow stories being done well. There is so much room for that.

[@riptarozone]

I feel like one of the biggest insults is making Eric and Shelley essentially the same characters as Funboy and Darla

[@thedarkcloakartist]

This 1000%

[@lokimanis]

Yeah, its ripping off the innocent part of the story just to make a sort of harley queen/joker duo

[@tatianaoliveira2191]

Why don't they make a more faithfull adaptation of the James O'Barr 's comic? ▪︎ They could even have made an animated movie (or animated series) That would have been different and cool. ▪︎ Imagine using the drawings of James O'Barr in the animation, with the quality and fluidity of something like ''Castlevania'' (for example)

[@JEF_W]

Here’s a cast idea I’d have for voices and such: Eric Draven/The Crow - Sam Witwer Shelly Webster - Ashley Johnson Jones - Trevohnn Garner Funboy - David Near Top Dollar - Jason Momoa Shelby - Winston Duke Keep in mind. I’m not saying I would make this. This just something I play with in my mind from time to time. I just can’t unhear some of these voices. They fit the comic so well.

[@fredskull1618]

The source material has been picked clean one way or another. There is absolutely no more new ground to cover. People have to update concepts to make them relevant.

[@JEF_W]

@@fredskull1618 that’s fair. But hey, I was just doing this for fun.

[@tatianaoliveira2191]

​@@JEF_W Great choices... specially Sam Witwer as Eric

[@JEF_W]

@@tatianaoliveira2191 I think Sam Witwer really wants to play the crow. I’d so love to make that dream come true for him

[@ProjectPossum]

If it was a different character, I wouldn’t be upset. But it shouldn’t be Eric.

[@RavenLordOfficials]

THANK YOU!!

[@Robert_Rankin]

SAME BRO!!!

[@VuotoPneumaNN]

Movie Eric was already pretty different from comic Eric.

[@Whitleythe13th]

truth...🖤🤍

[@fisher3317]

@@VuotoPneumaNNBut atleast Brandon Lee's makeup and design was faithful to how Eric looked in the comic, not to mention the movie follows the comic's basic story.

[@leeweesquee]

It got Devil May Cried

[@schmatt_]

goat comment

[@jadenbryant9283]

Fuck that's way too accurate.

[@canontheory]

At least DmC was still enjoyable despite the character changes unlike the crow remake

[@Countcheddar77]

😂😂

[@Gh0stface95]

I think if “The Crow” is to receive another reboot/remake it shouldn’t aim to be like the 1994 classic but try be more like the comic it’s based on. Sure it should pay homage to the first film but trying to remake and live up to it would just be setting up the film for failure. R.I.P Brandon Lee 🐦‍⬛

[@netito6736]

I hate that line where he says he wants 19 year olds to relate to remake Eric. I’m in the age range of the demographic he’s trying to appeal, and I do not relate to anything about this Eric. If anything I related more to Brandon’s version of Eric in most aspects of his character.

[@bloandon]

The great thing with Brandon's version is it feels timeless and anyone could relate to it

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

Brandon’s portrayal honestly aged perfectly well too. That style of fashion has made a big comeback. The design of Bill’s version looks stuck in 2017.

[@joewas2225]

The Crow with Brandon is a masterpiece that's timeless. It still holds up to today's standards.

[@strikesr5861]

I agree with you too personally Because remaking the crow would be a disrespectful spit on Brandon b's grapersonally. It shouldn't have been remayed to begin with, which at the years and decades. After his death and his fault is deaf, we thought everyone. On board with leaving a loan, at least you would think so. Now don't get me wrong. I'm not opposed to seeing the adaptation in a sequel. That's without the character, brandonsleep cause, even though all of the sequels didn't do great financially or maybe even story wise give her a take the pennant, the legacy still remains the same. It's tragic hell, I even have a story that tops and Trump's the nonsense remake. They're making with scarsgard. Don't get me wrong. I like him, but nobody can feel Brandon Lees Sure. Which is ironic because you're stepping in the dead. Man's shoes not in a good wan. Honestly, this is striking with the truth. I'm just tired of people. Remaking movies that don't deserve to be made. If it's not bro, don't fix it. This is obviously a cry for help not A crow enough to sing the trill of the first time. I laugh because. Seriously seriously question mark question? This is really generic D*** shame. You don't got no honor no more. Everything's all about cash grabs. It is very few people that do which is sad and even more tragic. Which is why it's going to bomb and I'm not talking about the bomb.com. I was around when Brandon Lee. Was around. In my childhood which extremely p***** me oif you? 're gonna make a sequel to this. Do it originally and with a different character. Don't f*** up the legacy in a crow considering None of the crow movies that passed did the nonsense regardless of good or not, that this crow remake is doing that's called desperation of giving yourself back money and not breaking even and greed. , g, why is everything so ironic I'll give you all the hint because it's tragic!

[@ulteriorliner9599]

I would actually like to see an anthology series where it follows different people coming back with the crow abilities and get vengeance or an animated series that follows the comic rather than a remake of the movie.

[@yoshimasu_k]

YES, an anthology could be great especially if it featured writers and directors of different backgrounds to show new perspectives (animal symbolism, cultural views of death and mourning).

[@Ash-Winchester]

This is NOT a remake.

[@nightshadeii9248]

An anthology series? You mean exactly like how it is right now?

[@yoshimasu_k]

@@nightshadeii9248 Or perhaps they meant "series" as in A SERIES.

[@ulteriorliner9599]

@@yoshimasu_k that's what I mean a series following different stories with different results. Like how the newer comics have different people coming back with different abilities or different endings.

[@kevburke]

They took our beautiful goth and left us a fuck boi

[@marvthemartian001]

Get a load of this guy

[@Eth3realwarrior]

More like a fentanyl meth zombie that I see at the 711 asking for a cig and change

[@Ash-Winchester]

There are a lot of goth's who look like that. Look at Andy Biersack.

[@burningthefields]

@@Ash-Winchester Andy Biersack is NOT GOTH!!! Gothic Rock is like Sisters of Mercy, Witching Hour, Christian Death, The Cure. Look at Rozz Williams or Dave Vanian in their youths. That is Goth. Black Veil Brides is something like Emo, which is a completely separate thing with different origins. Listen to Marian by Sisters of Mercy, that is what Goth Rock is. Nothing like Black Veil Brides.

[@Ash-Winchester]

@@burningthefields Yes he is. He dresses like every other goth does, and has even worn the black and white face paint. Goth is about style, not music. And Andy has that style down.

[@SOBEKCrocodileGod]

What’s crazy is Eric’s old design aged really well and would still fit in today with mallgoth fashion having a comeback. His new design honestly looks stuck in 2017. It’s like the attempt to modernize his design just made it look more dated. What’s funny is that if Lil Peep himself were alive today he’d probably say he prefers the old Crow design over the one trying to emulate him lol I agree with the idea that we don’t need a remake of Eric’s story. Especially with how the comics have shown you can tell the stories of many different characters due to the Crow’s nature.

[@Kulykill]

As a 19 year old, HE IS NOT US😭. He looks like a SoundCloud rapper. Which I get the lil peep vibes but even then at least lil peep was actually inspired by emo and just played with the goth label since people didn’t know the difference(which I feel actually made it worse and added to the ignorance). Bring back my trad goth daddy😔

[@fredskull1618]

Wow. And I absolutely love how you gatekeep the fandom. “He is not US”? Get over yourself.

[@Kulykill]

@@fredskull1618 what fandom?😭 what gatekeeping? All I said was 19 year olds will most likely not relate or even like this version of the crow.

[@ajax3748]

​@@KulykillI guess being 19 years of age is a fandom these days 😂

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@fredskull1618 Nothing wrong with gatekeeping your subculture, no one likes posers or those who seek to ruin the fun.

[@dostwood5103]

​@@lainiwakura1776 You're right, gatekeeping is necessary. Especially in the goth subculture. People who wear black nail polish and eyeliner and think they're goth simply are not goth. The subculture is about music, not fashion.

[@CameronThatcher]

I hate how it's like there's plenty of other source material from the sequel comics that could maybe make other Crows shine like Salvadore and Ira Shaw, but they just keep trying to use Eric's character and/or entirely made up characters for the sequels, also how many failed sequels and remakes is it gonna take for filmmakers to realize "we should just stop trying"?

[@Jimboh1637]

I was excited at the concept of Bill Skarsgård playing the crow until I saw 3:17 Handsome MOTHERFUCKING JACK on his chest with a nipple as one of its eyes. Bill was perfect casting and the director/studio botched it appearance wise. As for the director's comments on saying ‘I hope people who are 19 today look at him and go, "That guy is us.’” and it feels very "how do you do, fellow kids". Sanders is like 53. Alex Proyas was around his 30s I believe when he directed the original Crow and was close to Brandon Lee's age at the time. Also I think it's very backwards that the new film will have Eric and Shelly be druggies when in the comic and original film drug addicted criminal were the ones who brutalized them and killed them. The new criminals from the trailer looks like they lack personality, the world of the new film looks like it came from some generic YA novel movie. I'm a bit confused when people say the crow shouldn't be remade? The crow was an adaptation of the first comic and I see it as open to a remake. The problem for me is that the 2024 crow seems to be if not is already confirmed to be the antithesis of everything O'Barr's first comic and the 1994 film were.

[@VuotoPneumaNN]

So is it your opinion that all drug addicts are awful people?

[@Jimboh1637]

@@VuotoPneumaNN No. I met some awful people who aren't druggies and I deal with people who are just victims of circumstance. And I seen addiction utter both good and bad people. I am simply of the opinion that if someone wants to do a crow story involving the protagonist struggling with addiction or being a drug addicted that it is in poor taste use Eric and Shelly for that story.

[@VuotoPneumaNN]

@@Jimboh1637 Why? It’s not like Eric and Shelly are real people. Plus Eric does use drugs in the original comic.

[@pleez7]

Honestly. Even if the movie is bad. It’s the best thing to happen to the Crow since the original movie. Anything that might lead to people seeing the original or reading the comic is good.

[@IntotheDepths511]

That's a good way to look at it

[@RetroReprise]

Crow fans would love a closer adaptation of the comic. That's what we were hoping for. As a Gen Xer The Crow wasn't just the movie. It was a trilogy of media. The graphic novel, the Movie, and the soundtrack. Set it in the 80's this would make it timeless instead of the "Hey fellow kids" face tattoo fad that will die off in the next few years. Get an 80's soundtrack together. This would be awesome for marketing. Think Stranger Things, and "running up that hill" that was viral for almost a year. Make the whole thing a tribute to the comic and let the 90's movie stand on its own and let it be a new inclusion in the trinity. It would have to be made with love and Hollywood isn't capable of doing that.

[@jadenbryant9283]

Maybe even have the tagine be "The story you were told was just aninther perspective this is the original" Okay that tagline was fuckin stupid as shit but you get what I mean

[@hun34rd27]

So you just want another film that’s made for your generation?

[@RetroReprise]

@@hun34rd27 Id just like people to quit fucking up stories from my generation.

[@RetroReprise]

@Insultedyeti712 no it didn’t

[@RetroReprise]

@Insultedyeti712 just because he puts on face paint and Shelly dies doesn't make them all the "major plot points". @projectpossum is right this isn't Eric's story and if he was someone else it would be acceptable. MAJOR plot points are missing.

[@tapinewoods3937]

They forgot his beautiful, long and black hair, and his dead white pale skin.

[@jasoncoward-aintscared]

Bill looks like he survived an explosion at the cringe factory.

[@sydberetta4649]

The Crow would have been better suited as a show or mini series let's be real

[@Ash-Winchester]

It already had a show.

[@tapinewoods3937]

Shit, they could have made a CROW movie set in the medieval times with our knight protagonist marked with the crow's black lines and is riding a badass horse from Hell and a crow bird guiding him through battles and revenge as he tries to find those who burned his village and killed his blonde wife.

[@fredskull1618]

So now we’re getting into fan fiction, blah blah blah spitting on Brandon Lee’s Legacy blah blah blah James O’Barr’s dead fiancée blah blah

[@tiaferrandino4881]

I would've so watched that. Heck even a female Crow would've been cool. Anything but this.

[@tapinewoods3937]

@@tiaferrandino4881 They were plaining but nothing came out of it.

[@erikkibler3466]

No female Crow.thats a worse idea than Edward Furlong playing The Crow

[@tapinewoods3937]

@@erikkibler3466 James O'Barr himself was thinking about that idea and even proposed it to Miramax but they declined.

[@Dir_Grobbman]

you cant catch a crow in a bottle twice.

[@AshtonRogers-se1zj]

Like yourself,I was really hoping that this remake was going to be a more faithful adaptation of the original graphic novel. But I guess we'll never see anything like that. Sucks,man. It's such a beautiful exploration of loss,heartbreak,and mourning.

[@jetlorider2818]

"It can't rain all the time..."

[@Beeyo176]

I had a lot of thoughts before I heard certain details. How maybe the reason for the changes were just for modernization purposes; how keeping the names were strictly for nostalgia purposes; how it's cool that it's different because there are lots of Crow stories that have been told. My biggest excuse was going to be the difference between who's making it. The OG was made by people that genuinely loved the comic, and since O'Barr was there they were afforded a front row ticket to the pain and guilt that went into making it. The people making the remake fell in love with the movie, so there is a degree of separation there that the first movie didn't have. Nvm, doesn't sound like a Crow movie.

[@ImmortalRimas]

The Original Crow Film Adaptation was lightening in a bottle, it had more soul and had all the right people at the right period in time making it with more dedication & passion than the sequels and as it appears this upcoming remake. The Crow as an anthology film franchise with a different lead actor as a different character in each instalment taking up the mantle could’ve worked if there was that same amount of dedication and passion in each sequel as there was in the original instead of looking like cheap soulless cash grabs plus the 3 people that made the original work the most and why it was so great was James O’Barr, Alex Proyas & Brandon Lee who all 3 again with that same dedication and passion lobbied hard to make the adaptation of The Crow they wanted to make at the time (before Lee’s Death forced some changes) and keep the untalented studio executives away from interfering as we all know they like to do which is probably what happened in the sequels and this remake judging by how Bill Skarsgård looks in the movie. Overall some Films are better off as standalone works and 1994’s The Crow is certainly one of them

[@mystikrebel1089]

Bill Skarsgard is an amazing actor but seeing the trailer well all said in this video what came to mind. But something about the first movie that I always believed this movie carries a curse . But personally I'll judge it after it comes out...just to add that coming from a Hindu background the Crow does have some spiritual significance to do with death and the bridge between our world and the world beyond.

[@5thdog]

The most successful thing to come out of the crow besides the first movie was Sting...

[@theraVen27]

For sure, but Sting/nWo was the biggest pop culture thing going for a couple of years

[@TevyaSmolka]

I always maintain we don’t need a crow remake in my opinion it should be left alone.

[@totallyarealdoctor6498]

This just made me want to re-read the graphic novel 😂😂

[@kathys1285]

Made me watch the 94 movie 🐦‍⬛👍🏻🫶🏻💕

[@Vdr777]

Should just leave Eric alone. Eric is Brandon and Brandon is Eric. This isn't my Crow. I dont know what to say. I'm just disappointed.

[@Fighttilltheend0136]

Eric not Erick 😂

[@Vdr777]

@@Fighttilltheend0136 Brain fart. Thanks for telling me I'm fixing that.

[@Nelo_Wolf]

​@@Fighttilltheend0136 teacher's pet lol

[@asahthavoice]

Shut up. Yall all say the same thing everyone else does.

[@Vdr777]

To the guy who's above me. Be quiet. We all can have an opinion. If you disagree with me and want to have a conversation come at it less hostile.

[@nibcat88]

The truth is we don't need any remakes or any sequels. The original was special, unique and personal, it was truly artistic. There will never be something like this anymore.

[@emberberryart]

This director is oozing with such entilement and is full-blown tone deaf. Must be nice to be THAT sure of yourself. This director is literally delusional if he thinks his BS is somehow gonna be an honor to Brandon Lee. Like, idc, I have NO respect for this director. He clearly just wanted to do his own thing but slapped The Crow on it for the name alone. No respect to the OG comic or movie. It deserves to fail

[@fredskull1618]

The director is feeling no more entitlement than the DIE HARD GATEKEEPY ASS FANS on the internet.

[@aliasfakename3159]

The director has the confidence of a mediocre white man

[@christophermarcone5504]

I think it's a giant grift . the fact that Post is in on the soundtrack is another . That guy is 100% poseur . people don't even know . he's a real villain thief behind the scene . I think this whole project is mocking the legacy

[@andylikesstuffchannel]

My younger brother back In the 90s had the full length leather coat the long hair make up he was 15 years old DARK CITY is a great film

[@philleotardo8760]

I enjoyed City Of Angels. But when again I also liked Predator 2, Robocop 2, Escape From L.A. and another 48 hours and people hate those sequels as well. City of angels is a worthy sequel. I’m in the minority.

[@rottworks]

I've always liked it too.

[@erikkibler3466]

I didn’t at the time but given the terrible other sequels we been given since then it grew on me and I realized it’s pretty good.

[@kathys1285]

I agree I like the City of Angels the others meh 😒 some yes some no but this lasted one no way what made the others work was anyone can become the Crow 🐦‍⬛ the person becoming the crow is just an revenging angel 😇 to put the wrong things right it was different people different circumstances ect that’s why this one will never be in anyone’s good graces you dare use the same name and to have them drug users and not innocent people it’s disgusting just terrible

[@Fenrisson]

I actually love the idea of other people being the Crow. Each one in different circunstances, from different walks of life. I want to see a native american Crow, a mexican immigrant, a lady, an old person. The idea is fabulous! Sadly, the execution hasn't been great. I saw a comic book of a woman who is killed in a land dispute and becomes the Crow, because she was pregnant, and naturally the baby died. Also, there's a fan movie that happens during a single night, and it is gorgeous. The twist in the end is the absolute best. Someone please make a new series out of that one.

[@averytherockgod9822]

The new Crow remake rlly reminds me a lot of the Devil May Cry remake ngl, where they tried to “modernize” the series but it just came across as more outta touch if anything. Especially due to the fact that the whole goth look still holds relevance in pop and alternative culture today, whereas the whole emo rap look like that of Lil Peep and even Post Malone to a lesser extent kinda became outta fashion and not rlly relevant in 2019. So much so that MGK was frequently mocked for trying to hv a somewhat similar vibe/look. If they rlly wanted to “modernize” The Crow, they coulda used someone more relevant like Yungblud as a reference, cause tho the guy has his detractors and def isn’t goth, he is relevant and going in that direction could at least still make The Crow, feel and look like “The Crow” and not Jared Leto Joker or “Don-tay.”💀💯

[@bunnidarling4887]

not don’te 😭😭😭 that’s exactly what i thought too though im so disappointed

[@ModernPlushCinema]

Remaking The Crow would be like trying to paint over the Mona Lisa!

[@darkcloud2442]

Damn you hit the nail on the head, I want to see this movie and want it to be good. But this isn’t my Crow, my Crow is the comic and I want that movie it’s just a shame that I’ll never get it.

[@Adrian956txs]

Somehow this guy comes back from the dead with a fresh fade lol

[@bilbonbigos]

I have similar feelings to other franchises as a fan so I totally understand your points. My problem as a person who didn't grow up with the comic book (tbh I finally bought it last year) or the original movie is that they want to modernize/remix something that can stand on its own legs very well even now. I understand their take as they are artists and creators but why change something that works fine? I would love to bring new people to the franchise by showing them the feel, the music, the emotions of the original just in a modern technology with talented actors. "The Batman" is a good example for me. They just went back to The Detective Comics, made Batman a detective, showed a story in this world. They didn't try to make it more modern or trendy, just make a good adaptation of the core material and it worked. I really liked Sander's "Ghost in the Shell" but it had all flaws that are shown in "The Crow": he took a great piece of media, remixed all iconic elements, flatten its sense and purpose and released it as a fun blockbuster. I think this is what Hollywood needs to still learn: there are great stories and characters, you don't need to change them to adapt something, just be faithful and aware.

[@yoshimasu_k]

14:11 The director's comments feel very after-the-fact (and unsurprisingly so). This remake was merely a paycheck with franchise potential and they didn't think there would be such a negative response from both fans and people involved with the original film. Thus, the "remake is a 'tribute' to Brandon" BS. And my frustration with this remake isn't based on nostalgia - I actually liked City of Angels, thought Salvation was entertaining enough, and will always have a special place in my heart for Stairway To Heaven (still avoiding Wicked Prayer, though). Bill definitely has the chops to pull it off - just create a new character!

[@Nelo_Wolf]

What about stairway to heaven?

[@kalide1704]

I created a guy. His name's Gordon Crowley.

[@MarioUcomics]

The story structure of the comic just doesn't lead itself to film IMO. It's not just an action revenge story but also very dreamy, with poems, the story itself being told out of order and a lot of imagery and metaphors. I feel like a very stylized 2D animation in Black and white can be a better way to bring the comic to life outside of the 1st movie. Maybe episodic series like the comic book was with the chapters

[@kimmarshall3866]

Everybody was ready to accept the remake Under the stipulation it was comic book accurate. Otherwise they just should have done an anthology movie

[@mattday2656]

I'll watch it, kinda stoked about it, but there are other stories in the crow universe that I would love to see adapted. The Crow is one of my favourite movies and is a formative piece of media for me, City of Angels soundtrack was my first CD, I get that the art direction is just trying to update things, I figure I will watch it despite that I am not into the aesthetic or other aspects. I liked Ashe.

[@tropistan7735]

12;47 counterculture, rebellion and freedom... that made me tear up because i just realized why i absolutely f*cking hate this time period. Born in the 80s and being a teenager in the 90s i embraced those things like nobody's business. Individuality, rejecting labels, rejecting conformity...to witness the regression and living through the past ten years of sheeplike mentality where submitting to invasion of privacy and censorship is being celebrated has felt oppressive and hopeless. I knew it had a lot to do with being a product of the 90s, i just didn't realize how much. I held on to my roots and some days it feels like it is destroying me.

[@willorr208]

Brandon Lee is, and forever will be The Crow... period❣️❣️❣️

[@kathys1285]

👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻💯💯👍🏻👍🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻🐦‍⬛🥰

[@Shasarazad]

I grew up with Brandon's The Crow. Has been my favorite movie since I first saw it on TV in the '90s. I have been against any kind of remake of Eric's story since they first started talking about it, and can't see anyone other than Brandon playing him. When I saw the trailer for the new movie I was disapointed, but I also felt that it's a movie they clearly didn't make for me. The 1994 movie it perfect for me and my generation. Maybe the new movie will be a hit with the kids today with the modern look. Though hearing about the changes they may have made to the story makes me wish they had renamed the characters. I'll just go re-watch the original, thanks.

[@FookMi69]

Honestly, what’s worse about all of this is the fact that this reboot isn’t just disrespecting Brandon’s legacy, but also just spitting in the face of James O’Barr. The Crow was written as a way for O’Barr to cope with the death of his fiancée, even recreating memories from his life with Beverly and using them for the flashback scenes. Eric is literally meant to represent O’Barr in the narrative and the depression he is dealing with. In the context of the graphic novel, the new reboot is a disrespectful adaptation because its taking a story that is directly based on someone’s life and just disregarding everything in it. It lacks the soul that the graphic novel had, nor does it have the soul of the 1994 movie. In comparison to those two, the reboot is a meaningless, lifeless flanderisation. While the graphic novel, *especially* the graphic novel and the film had me feeling emotional, this reboot is definitely gonna make me feel nothing. But why bother going to see this film when the trailer is already basically the whole movie anyway lmao

[@fredskull1618]

Disrespecting Brandon’s LEGACY? What the heck are you talking about? Spitting in the face of James O’ Barr? THE MOVIE HASNT EVEN BEEN RELEASED YET.

[@marvthemartian001]

​@@fredskull1618 people just be saying shit

[@ktosco793]

Was this sentiment shared w/ the trash ass sequels that came after the original? Or do people only care now because of modernization?

[@FookMi69]

@@ktosco793 In defence of the bad sequels, at least they didn’t bring back Eric Draven and decided to introduce a new main character for each film

[@skyr5247]

@@fredskull1618you're in multiple comment threads acting like this lol please be fr

[@leannkennett905]

I think the rout they should have done (simply because of the tragic events surrounding the original crow film and Brandon Lees death.) would have been to make this new character Eric Draven’s nephew. He was close to Eric and Eric taught him how to play guitar. Show him at Eric’s funeral and his family going through Eric’s things at the apartment afterwards. While going through the old apartment a probably 12-13 years old “nephew” Draven takes Eric’s guitar, a photo of his band hangman’s joke, and his binder of songs as souvenirs because their music was what they bonded over. Fast foreword to “Nephew” Draven being 19-25 or whatever. He’s got his own band called Hangman’s joke in memory of his uncle, he’s using his uncles old guitar, and still has his uncles old songs. (Although he probably seldom actually plays them.) perhaps after he leaves playing a set with the band he plays one of Eric’s old songs for his girlfriend or fiancé because she asks him to. Have them discover a drug ring that is being run out of the place his band plays at and when they are discovered by the villains they meet their tragic demise. After this their script can do whatever this particular movie does.

[@Vidzette]

This new Crow guy reminded me of the Dante from the DMC remake.

[@crimsondragon9099]

Good game

[@jennykosky4430]

Lets just say the origional Crow had HEART! Did it magnify with Lees Death? Most likely it did. Does that fact change the movie or the awesome performance he ga e , no. The Crow is a little gem heck my parents loved it. The theme of loss was uni ersal it wasnt just for goth people.

[@angazdimotel8488]

Nice Yakuza font

[@brianhedley5139]

Edward R Pressman suppressed many versions of the Crow. Now that he has passed maybe some will get through the grid

[@tajcee]

If there’s one way this “remake” is capturing the zeitgeist of the time, it’s the continued riding off the coattails of the past. There’s no way 30 years from now this will be remembered, unlike the original “The Crow” film.

[@erikkibler3466]

Now that it’s out and people know how bad it is…it will only be remembered for that

[@DarthTamarus]

Having known about this film’s impact and importance for a while now, and also having just recently watched it for the first time (as an adult) I can say that it is truly ahead of its time and definitely doesn’t deserve to be milked and defiled by another reboot. This film really is a testament to the time and holds its own even 30 years later.

[@amandamaia8287]

I don't think it's fair to judge a movie so harshly just by its trailer, but it's very clear to see that both version have different vibes (the new looking more like a John Wick movie than anything). I think if they reeeaally wanted to make a Crow movie, they should have just made about a different character and left Eric with the 1994 version. I believe it would have been more respectful to everyone and everything that that movie represents.

[@erikkibler3466]

It’s out now and we know how terrible it is.

[@quincythecreaten3703]

I've only seen two of the crow sequels. I watch the one where that crow comes back after being put in the electric chair and hunts down dirty cops. And I saw the the first quarter of the one set in Mexico I think, with the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. Even though they were probably not good movies, personal had fun with what I saw of both.

[@brokenwithin38]

I was also hoping for a remake closer to the source material. I really thought that, thanx to the success Joker, we would get that...more grounded in reality and gritty. I LOVE the Brandon Lee movie, but it still had a bit of that Hollywood gloss on it. I liked how the murders of Shelly and Eric (no Draven) in the comic were a random act of chance by common street gangsters as opposed to a planned building sweep by goth-mafia types. I love how the comic presented Eric with a generous dose of insanity. He was a character you were sympathetic to, but at a safe distance, because he was downright scary at times, and his kills borderlined slasher movie payoffs. You never were gonna see Lee's Eric beating the enemy's head in with a hammer. I think that Joker showed that O Barr's original vision could have worked beautifully and brought profit.

[@NewPortHuffer]

you bringing up GG Allin and also showing footage of El Duce that shit was killer wasn’t expecting that from you HAHA

[@IntotheDepths511]

I have a hyperfixation on shock rock from the 90s. One Day I want to make a documentary sort of recapping the decade. I would focus on people like GG Allin, The Mentors, GWAR, The MeatMan. I just think it's a really interesting topic. And yeah I really wanted to include El Duce. It's crazy how many people know who GG Allin is yet not as many people talk about El Duce. Despite the mentors being arguably more people than GG Allin was at the time.

[@NewPortHuffer]

@@IntotheDepths511 killer man makes me love your channel even more

[@travit666]

That's kind of like how there's been a bunch of different actors. Who've played Jason from Friday the 13th of the years, but the one most people know and associate with Jason is kain hodder

[@IntotheDepths511]

Kane is a legend. But Ted White is my favorite Jason.

[@georgiawin97]

I was hoping the remake would have been more faithful to the comics. That on screen would be so beautiful. As a remake, this movie won't work. Not a chance. As it's "own" movie though...maybe?

[@cloudybird5787]

Let's freaking go! Still waiting on the berserk recap, no rush tho.

[@stephenwillis6937]

There's a Crow comic called Skinning The Wolves where The Crow is a Holocaust victims. My main question with that concept is how is there not an entire army of Crows from thar point in time? How do You say this victim deserved to come back over the others?

[@IntotheDepths511]

In love Skinning The Wolves. It's a fantastic comic, but I dont have an answer to your question. Someone smarter than me will have to answer that one.

[@siikedonnelly]

Really enjoyed the video. Might not agree on everything, but i do agree that this new remake isnt pulling any of the essential elements of the Eric Draven or Shelly Webster characters. And while I dont mind them adding a few things, from what ive seen in the trailer, im not sure i like or appreciate how they add those new things, mainly because they also subtract. If they built on top of previous elements, i may be more optimistic. But im not. Trailers exist to give people a sample of what the movie will be. Like Madame Web, i saw this trailer and immediately knew i would spend my time or money to see it in the theater. Im a Crow fan so im sure ill eventually see the film on streaming, but i give feedback with my time and wallet and this remake wont see either while its in the cinemas. Ive seen enough movies in my lifetimes to judge if i want to see a film in the theaters from how i feel on a single trailer. Kudos to those who still want to give it a chance, but i am not among that flock, or murder. The remake looks and feels different enough to where i wonder why its even called The Crow. Like those terrible Resident Evil movies where they just slap the names Leon and Chris onto generic characters. Bills a great actor tho. Its a shame im not excited for this remake.

[@Hicks-g1m]

No Other Crow Movie will be as good as the first. The first Crow film is perfect and a masterpiece RIP Brandon Lee. There is no need for a remake because it will fail on an epic scale

[@gerryramirez8706]

Exactly!!

[@kathys1285]

Amen 🙏🏻🐦‍⬛💕🫶🏻

[@Whitleythe13th]

as I watch this video, I look at my McFarlane Toys Movie Maniacs 2 12" The Crow...Eric Draven...and I wonder also, on the remake of this iconic character, why wasn't more efforts put into the design of him...Skarsgard could've made that look right if designed correctly...respectful to the character and Brandon Lee...RIP sir... this is a great video man...

[@Max_Vicious]

Saying that Brandon's death made the movie fantastic even nowadays is pure BS, it's because that movie is so well done, and has a fantastic soundtrack and an amazing actor to portrait the big villain top dollar

[@RomanWinslow]

I saw the trailer of the movie and its hollywood rather than cultural. Ive been going through multiple channels on here and getting insight on how people really feel about a crow remake and sadly, i agree with them. My reason for doing research throughout the fan base relating to remake is because i feel bold enough to make a direct sequel to the first one. Now, i know everyone is either excited or not so thrilled about it but I really think remaking the second movie without remaking it and removing the third movie without removing it. It sounds confusing and rather complicated but not so. My envision is bring in a new character who is prone to meeting the other crows who are manifested as crows to follow this new crow because 'Odin' recruited him to commit Ragnarok (war) and the story i have for the new character not only does the othet crows justice but ties them in with this new current crow who is determined to save his cousin thats being enslaved by so/so. No spoilers. The focus is to show how much the old times are making its way into our present & future. Which is what Odin is about. Time, Wisdom, and War. The name of the script im writing as we speak is called "Pack of Crows" which overall defines the purpose of the original film but driven into a new originality that could lead to maybe opening doors for Marvel. I think The Crow under the Marvel flag is a good input because we need new fresh ideas BUT ideas we are familiar with and The Crow is an Avenger of sorts. Much like Deadpool and Wolverines story but in its own dark gothic cultural domain. Even if my script and film doesnt make it under the Marvel or DC flags, i would be proud to know i did it justice to leave it as sequel to the original that ties all the other movies together. Tbh, this script im working on shouldve been this film they are currently making rn for a remake but i shed/show no disrespect. It could be good, it could be bad, or i can tie that Eric Draven to the multiverse under the marvel flag but i wont know until i watched it personally. This is sensitive and i would not publish my work unless i had blessings from James O'bar and the lee family.

[@Joseph_Winwelm]

I watched it for first time today and it was even better than I thought it would be. It’s the only movie I’ve Brandon Lee in and I’m already a fan.

[@Fenrisson]

10:39 - We would all be better off if they just changed Eric's and Shelly's names.

[@aidenb7444]

Let’s be honest we would’ve said it was pandering if this dropped 7 years ago, in all seriousness this is on the same level as Shadow the Hedgehog for the ps2 for me. That is NOT The Crow

[@JayMarrero-ic7hk]

Bill Will do it bro Bill Even nailed pennywise i'm the shoes of master tim curry. Do we think he is willing to torch this icon down? He is not Dumb. Smart actor! Amazing video My bro❤ new super fan here❤

[@JayMarrero-ic7hk]

@@thatvalensteingirl hahahahshs good one. True that. But hey the movie might bomba thanks to fans or the movie itself but i respect Bills acting abbilitties

[@JayMarrero-ic7hk]

@@thatvalensteingirl btw of course. For me making the clown super creepy wasnt that great but still a true amazing performance. Same he can do with that freaking Leto crow bullshit.

[@topkekdes1980]

Frankly I have to agree with you, and this dovetails in general with the idea of a remake, in that 9/10 they are either unneeded, worse than what came before, or both at the same time. Books and vidya's suffer the same thing as well.

[@brunotortorello8530]

At first I actually was excited about the trailer even after I watched it (granted both the comic and the 94 movie came into my life a little late since I was born in the 91) but the excitement of the trailer made me want to rewatch and read the comic again and I got to say you got a point. I mean I'm still watching it but this movie as far as the trailer go is not what the crow should be (if it should be something other than the 94 movie and the comic but that's another point)

[@Whookieee]

"It can't rain all the time."

[@IntotheDepths511]

That quote has unironically saved my life.

[@JohnDWJ]

And there in lies the rub. There’s a brilliant movie based on a brilliant graphic novel. That’s it. Revisit and enjoy perfection. There should not have been any further franchise. After perfection… the only way to go is down.

[@Fenrisson]

0:14 - I *LOVED* that series!

[@brandonlandry2812]

I honestly can't wait to watch it loved the original, if you want to watch a remake that's a mirror copy just watch the original again

[@dal1947]

Nah, I agree, I would love a more comic accurate version of the crow but I ain't gonna lie, maybe it's just me being young, late 20s, but I like the design and look from the trailer. Could it have been a new character, yes, but right now, it is what it is, hopefully it'll be good

[@theitfactorjameswheezer2852]

I’m about the same age. Looks awful lol

[@dal1947]

@@theitfactorjameswheezer2852 my man, we probably ain't grow up the same way and liking the same things, people like different things

[@fredskull1618]

Don’t bother arguing with the die-tard fans. They decided to hate the remake before it is even released.

[@jimjamauto]

People complain that it doesn't look like the original movie and graphic novel, people would also complain if it did. And even if this movie is 10x better than the original people won't be satisfied because Brandon Lee. I actually like Bill's sloppy fighting, it reminds me of Nobody with Bob Odenkirk.

[@dal1947]

@@jimjamauto I fully agree

[@darkhorse5932]

As a diehard crow fan and along with my skepticism that this "reimagening" will do well, I'll still watch it and draw my own conclusions. That being said, I seriously hope all of the negativity surrounding this movie doesn't deter Skarsgard from taking chances on more risky roles in the future. The man is an absolutely amazing actor and I am almost positive he will be in this as well. But the only true Eric Draven will always be James O'Barr himself and Brandon Lee respectively. I just hope we aren't deprived of Skarsgard's true talent on future projects just because of one hiccup..

[@kostaskalas7375]

R..I.P BRANDON LEE THE ONE AND ONLY CROW !!!

[@cameronwebb5621]

his nipple is the eye lol

[@erikkibler3466]

The only part that is realistically relatable to the younger crowd😂

[@Fenrisson]

0:35 - Yeah, but the title is *amazing* "Wicked Prayer". Best title ever.

[@Louisdc]

Bro the crow was a part of my childhood.Also The crow inspired me to write my own story

[@jasoncoward-aintscared]

Instead of saving her soul or even revenge, I would make the plot about saving the city and preventing future victims. And revenge.

[@JEF_W]

Love that. Why they didn’t go with that, I don’t know

[@fredskull1618]

So that would make The Crow just a regular superhero, or an even more emo Punisher?

[@jasoncoward-aintscared]

@@fredskull1618 it's not the mission that makes a character pedestrian.

[@fredskull1618]

@@jasoncoward-aintscaredwhat does that even mean? Google translate that again for me:

[@LoveyourzAF]

This movie was one of my first silent loves... stop trying to fix what you can't reach

[@dreamakuma]

I just wish they'd do The Crow: The skinning of the Wolves

[@IntotheDepths511]

One hundred percent. A setting like that or dead times would make a great movie

[@JLPayne_78]

City of Angels is a much better film than it has ever been given credit for. It would have been a good sequel if not for studio interference. Mia Kirshner's performance as an adult Sarah was complex and wonderful. Iggy Pop was good as Curve. And Vincent Perez as Ashe was actually decent in the title role, but he suffered by comparison to Brandon Lee's career portrayal of Eric Draven. Which is the exact problem with the new re-imagining. If Bill Skarsgard weren't playing Eric Draven, and if the story wasn't supposed to be a reboot of the Brandon Lee film, then the new movie might have been better received. But there is no Eric Draven that isn't portrayed by Brandon Lee. And every other version of the film will have to live up to that standard. If they really wanted to do a new version of The Crow they should have tapped into the third graphic novel and the female Crow character of Iris Shaw. That would've been something different from Eric's story, while still being a Crow story.

[@slavitdeezer]

Great analysis. I agree, leave the crow alone.

[@beavers1978]

I try to leave Brandon Lee's death out of the conversation because not only do I find it in bad taste, but I also think it has no bearing on the situation. The character of Eric Draven should've been left alone because his story was told pretty well in the 1994 film, and there's not much else that can be done with him. It should've been just another person resurrected with the power of the Crow, just like the sequels. I like Bill Skargard, and I have no doubt he'll try to give it his all, but him alone will not be enough.

[@zarabee2880]

What is the obsession with remakes? The Disney company devouring itself 😢 this, talk of remaking Harry Potter? I hate it. Why can’t kids just watch the OG Disney films? Why can’t moody teens just watch this? Like we did? The OG Crow may not be close to the comics, but it was pure gold. As you said, it hit a particularly zeitgeist that got 15 yr old me absorbing the Cure, NIN and Rage against the machine obsessed with Eric Draven & adoring the vengeance story ❤❤❤

[@The_SerieZ]

I absolutely love the original, I discovered it last year and have been obsessed with it since. The new one is definitely not going to be anywhere close to as good as the original. I'm going to give it a chance, though, just because I love The Crow

[@malachairasmussen4591]

Personally I'd love to the see movie version of The Crow: Dead Time. I think it'd be interesting take on the Crow media.

[@Fenrisson]

9:57 - YEAHH!! That's what I'm talking about!

[@chrislewin2332]

Why did they make the crow look like a SoundCloud rapper?

[@jeffpearljam1976]

Should’ve done the female storyline from the show or the one that was similar to Kill Bill.

[@kathys1285]

That’s what I said I would love 💕 to see a female version of this

[@Gwaeronanime]

They should have left it alone. No one can ever replace Brandon/proyas version.❤ miss you much BL

[@harrykenyon9262]

I cannot agree with you more. This original book in 1990 effected me so hard and Ive been so dissatisfied with the films. For them to have the arrogance to claim Brandon would have loved this, bad... I have also said numerous times, ithe first film should never be remade. It first captures a time as the comic did. Brandon secured its immortality in his performance and his sacrifice. How dare they do that. Its insulting to J.

[@VictorBlack70541]

maybe in 20 years we'll get another remake more true to the comic, one can only hope, anyways I really want to see this remake just to give it a chance, it can't be worse than wicked prayer.

[@yamiyugi1232]

see im nervous for the film but im willing to give it a chance seeing as theres somethings from comic such as a seen in trailer where he has a katana but at the same time i feel if the film is good it will make sense for this to be a little different to make it something simular yet different but i also feel a deep connection to the original and even had done school projects on lee and dressed up as his crow for halloween a couple times but i know that no matter what us the fans say greed will always lead to more films and reboots even if we beg for just adaptions as i said ealier in my comment im willing to give it a shot but i do feel as a adaption this may not be great or even as someones "spiritual successor" but maybe just maybe it could atleast be a half decent crow film or maybe the curse of the crow will strike again but anything will be better than wicked prayer......at least i hope.

[@Dean0094]

I had hoped they would adapt it closet to the graphic novel since it was one of the first graphic novels I have ever read , hoped to see the iconic quotes live , oh well I guess in another timeline.