The Current State of Dragon Ball FighterZ

[@KaiSchSp]

Man this game is way too good to not get a sequel.

[@daniyalmoriani3368]

And sold way too well to not get one

[@KaiSchSp]

@Carmine My main reason for wishing for a sequel is that we might have a shot at a better UI xD

[@blackvalio4060]

@@KaiSchSp a sequal is a copy paste of all characrers and stages in the game with addition of 4-5 new ones. This is not worth 60 more dollars

[@gabrielh.a.p9989]

@@blackvalio4060 depending on the whole package, it might. Like a combat overhaul, rollback netcode, new characters, story mode.........

[@KaiSchSp]

@@blackvalio4060 What you're discribing is an updated port. It would suck, yes, very much so. That is why I wish for a full sequel.

[@Livingroomset799Dep]

If they made FighterZ 2 with rollback, and did more things like fun tournaments and full length character showcases like they did near the end of S3, that would be the best possible scenario

[@zeokenx2]

Nah,PS5 just came out,let the devs have time to learn the PS5 before working on a polished DBFZ 2 game.

[@zeokenx2]

Season 4 with more character and updates for 2 more years then this game can go,k thx bye.

[@notgoin2244]

And more customization

[@OwNAvenged]

@@zeokenx2 It's almost like PC exists

[@justyourfriendlypebble8943]

@@OwNAvenged it's almost like PC isn't the only platform

[@ragessj5]

“Unplayable matchups” Frieza shaking in fear whenever Z Bully pulls up

[@dodeker7845]

FighterZ is the only fighting game where a Grappler can beat a Zoner fullscreen. Fuck that

[@radiantdiscord2649]

@@dodeker7845 broly can also zone 😭

[@StygianWorm]

@@dodeker7845 Z Broly is a zoner with a command grab, not a grappler.

[@StygianWorm]

Broly Frieza is 6-4 in Broly's favour at worst, and almost even if you're good.

[@dodeker7845]

@@StygianWorm wtf you're obviously a broly main and not a frieza player. Please don't try such dirty tricks some noobs May believe you

[@galladiated]

6:21 is nobody gonna talk about that conversion, holy shit

[@SacredRikaccino]

Cell mains man, they're on some other shit

[@7standdad]

I'm still stuck on Bardock low-profiling 21's level 3. Absolute robbery

[@RathFGC]

Beyndips always hits me with these fancy combos 😭

[@unholyrevenger72]

LOL pay to win. Learn Ginyu, never pay for DLC again.

[@Someguy-bq4tk]

Free infinite z assist and dlc characters lmao

[@blackdoom_]

Bro it lowkey is...

[@Watermelon_Man]

@@blackdoom_ Not really. UI Goku is the only paid character that’s truly insane. All of the others aren’t really much better, if at all, than most of the original cast thanks to various nerfs and buffs Edit: Forgot about Broly

[@Misteranderson123]

@@Watermelon_Man you’re 100% right. UI and Z Broly are pay to win by a mile.

[@javirodriguez6049]

@@Misteranderson123 nobody was talking about z Broly. UI is way better it’s not even close

[@andytheindividual3862]

Hate, let me say this clearly, HATE the lack of communication from the developers... don't they know that they are hurting their own pockets by not communicating with the player base? 😔

[@danialtootian6385]

Actually paying attention cost them money and effort and thats a big no no

[@austinchase125]

Theyve made their money too so there is no real reason for them to really care 😓

[@bobrianfo104]

I don't blame them honestly lots of gamers start acting very entitled and impatient towards game developers once they get informed about deadlines, release dates or delays

[@tonylamont9699]

they've made money just by shoving dlc in instead of doing stuff so idk if they really care about us

[@danielz-v4083]

fucking right? I think the legit best example of that is the “Galactic Arena “ stage. Not because it’s something insanely impactful in the game, but specifically due to how it perfectly portrays their lack of interest when it comes to fan feedback . Like, this game came out right when the ToP had just ended in the anime. And people kept asking the shit out of that stage since the game was released . So many players gave suggestions of extremely easy maps to make (I mean, come on, the Hyperbolic Time Chamber is a literal house in a white void) and they never even acknowledged it in any way. Then, more than a year after the game came out, they finally say there will be a new stage. And what it ends up being? Some extremely random ass original map that literally not a single soul in the planet asked for. And not to be ungrateful. The map is cool. But the point is that god knows how many hours they put into creating that nonsense that could have been used for content that was actually requested and begged for. A similar thing was seen with the ONE CHARACTER in the game that has a true alt skin and that it was ... VIDEL?! Like, we all understand it’s hard to make full on costume changes, but where is “Capsule corp 16, halo frieza, Goku with different Kanji and Gi’s ? (ITS A LITERAL MODEL CHANGE FFS), Long hair Trunks” and so many more? Yet despite fans asking for it, they put work info freaking V I D E L? Like what is that joke? So yeah, I think these summarize how they just didn’t care about anything besides the competitive scene. Basically neglected any fan feedback that came in these last 3 years

[@bibo5505]

Balance patch in a nutshell: UI goku: so he's not top tier right... RIGHT?! GT goku: 💀 Kid buu players: omg this nerf is so bad im dropping kid buu Z Broly players:😏

[@abfloorr]

z broly is pretty balanced, only real problem i see is his damage

[@bibo5505]

@@abfloorr I hope you're just downplaying him

[@abfloorr]

@@bibo5505 nah man, his command grabs arent big damage without meter, and all of his blockstrings past 2m are unsafe, so you can leave or challenge them, same with his ki blast, vanish dont give more than 3 k damage tops, but at the same time, 3 bars light command grab does like 60-70 percent anchor, so that might be a problem

[@bibo5505]

@@abfloorr I don't see how a grappler can be the best zoner in the game and have armor on most of his normals. I've seen ex grab used on wakeup because sometimes it's practically invincible. The barrier doesn't make it better

[@abfloorr]

@@bibo5505 Dbfz is not a game where archetypes just fit like that, evey movement option, every button is universal to every charachter, Broly is a hybrid of a grappler and a zoner, so he is best on the ground and weakest from air approaches

[@Polopollo75]

A reason they didn't announced a season 4 yet, could be because ArcSys doesn't want GuiltyGear to be shadowed by DBFZ maybe? Also the online tournement last year was amazing to watch for us average players: We could see that online, the 6M and DR are not always teched (and for most of us, we only have online to play), and then the amazing commentaries for games on youtube was awesome!

[@boringinu2077]

arc is development but bandai is producer, so must of decision is made by bandai you know, even though ggst will shadowed bdfz, is not arc business

[@Aripuni1]

Pollopollo75 meh, Arcys development team is limited, don't overthinking something, arc just busy right now with their original franchise

[@bobrianfo104]

@@boringinu2077 it would be terrible business practice for bandai to not produce somekind of sequel to a game that sold more than 6 million copies, it's most likely just a matter of time

[@Deadlift4chips]

If there won’t be a season 4 we’re definitely getting a sequel.

[@abcdankmeme6050]

Hopefully there is no sequel Because I spent to much money on this game

[@El_Chuchuca]

@@abcdankmeme6050 Same. Wouldn't mind a paid update, but defintely not FighterZ 2 when the game it's in its best state in terms of balancing and jank.

[@abcdankmeme6050]

@@El_Chuchuca unless it keeps all my progress

[@zachopath]

I don't understand why you want a sequel to a game that doesn't need one. The community is still thriving heavily, new characters had just come out, and the net code is still solid, idk why people are calling it bad. Tekken 7 has been around for 7 or 8 years, most fighting games get 6 to 8 years of life these days. If we got a sequel even in the next year, that would mean that DBFZ 1 would only be around for 4 years max, no that ain't right, this game has way more life to breathe, no need for any sequel rn

[@El_Chuchuca]

@@zachopath The Netcode is beareable, but the standard today is Rollback, and ArcSys already talked how they couldn't implement rollback in DBFZ.

[@iiCLOAK_0000]

I don’t think the game is pay to play when you have teen gohan, kid buu, gotenks, and android 21 who are all debatably the either the best or atleast in the top 5 characters and they’re free

[@iiCLOAK_0000]

@Saqlain Waris facts just look at cloud805 showing he can block a ui goku for minutes and make people rage quit with his goku black

[@Dantarn]

The big factor is that you have to pay for characters to lab against them which is where Fighting Games tend to become P2W. I really wish FGs would let you lab against characters you don't have in training mode, it'd also serve as a sort of 'demo' to see if you actually like the character before you buy them.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

@@Dantarn SFV did it (woohoo a win for Capcom)

[@willkershisnik5893]

@@Dantarn I do agree it sucks not being able to lab against characters you don’t own. I didn’t have ui goku for a super long time and learning to play against him was harder because of that. However, I can’t blame the developers for that, it’s unreasonable to expect the dlc to be free and it doesn’t make sense for them to make them intentionally bad so of course some will be good

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

I'm a DB fan first, and a FG fan second. And fighting games and Dragon are so intrinsically linked in my mind that I wouldn't enjoy another DB game or another ArcSys fighting game even a quarter as much as a potential DBFZ sequel

[@swagula123]

Deadass, couldn’t have said it any better myself.

[@bombholenathbabajaishivash2269]

I love dragonball overall, and i love this game

[@sleepinbelle9627]

I will keep saying this until I've willed it into existence. ArcSys make a Shonen Jump Team Fighter with Strive's Rollback Tech.

[@jinjango8983]

Omg yes

[@TKLRU]

Yea baby!

[@sleepinbelle9627]

@Antdawg It's not even unreasonable. Jump Force came out after dbfz so the licences are clearly all available. Bandai Namco just needs to fuckin hire them for it.

[@kyman_1]

@Antdawg so like jump force and that other game i forgot what it was called but it had the yellow guy from assination classroom and when you used mugetsu with ichigo you would die

[@xaviergrimes8156]

@@kyman_1 jump stars victory vs + my man and i still play it

[@Rivr_Shen]

I think FighterZ is in a pretty good spot rn so far as normal gameplay. The online is pretty trash but when you get those low delay matches its really fun.

[@seniorsterling1064]

I agree but at the end of the day if the online is garbage not many ppl will stay and might just move to strive or move on

[@CurryGoatorMutton]

I’d like a FighterZ 2 with better netcode (unless they can improve it with patches) regardless im still going to play as I find FighterZ fun but I really want another patch (I just want Goku Black to get buffed)

[@reynauldwhistles2338]

Frizbee too

[@professorsageofthesixpaths7885]

@@reynauldwhistles2338 buff frieza, are u out of your mind???? SSJ Goku and goku black could use minor buffs tho

[@reynauldwhistles2338]

@@professorsageofthesixpaths7885 oh you actually think frieza is good, I would like to hear why you think that, frizbee is goku black tier and videl tier

[@professorsageofthesixpaths7885]

@@reynauldwhistles2338 frieza is one of the best zoners in the game, second to only z Broly. His 2h is godlike. His golden frieza install is pretty good, also. Why do people think videl is low tier she is very stong

[@reynauldwhistles2338]

@@professorsageofthesixpaths7885 he is NOT one of the best zoners in the game you said it yourself broly is the best zoner but the thing is that zoning in dbfz is not even good (only z broly can do it) and you can beat frieza "zoning" by jumping and then super dashing or jump and then beam him when is recovering from whatever "zoning tool" he might have used, he also has really bad mix, can kill himself and has bad assists, atleast black goku has a good old reliable beam and videl has a multihit assist kind of like yamcha, about videl she doesnt have a reflect thats why she is bad, you and me and every other regular joe can do good whit videl but from the pro point of view not having a reflect makes her have really tought match ups against anyone that knows how to abuse that and pro will put you in a situation where reflect is the only option or they will continue whit infinite pressure, poor videl her dodge is so bad because you migth dodge a single attack yes but enemy is still next to you and ready to punish you, goku black and ssj goku need something else since having a beam assist is not that special anymore, maybe they can balance them the tien way, low mix but having a ton of damage or actually give them new tools (very unlikely) but they need changes and specially those 3 characters frizbee sjj and black goku

[@willkershisnik5893]

I would like to see a second dbfz game, maybe “Super dragonball fighterz” add some extra characters plus all the currently added dlc characters more maps some new system mechanics and hopefully rollback netcode.

[@ItsRubenCharles]

DBFZ was my entry to the FGC, and I have tried a lot of games since then. BBCF, GGXrd, UNIST (before it became UNCLR), BBTAG, and many others. I'll definitely get GGST (in fact I already preordered it) but I love DBFZ. I'll probably play more GGST for the first couple of months because it is a brand new game. but I'll still play DBFZ because I really love the game

[@cadeemmusgrove7791]

I’d drop the game if there’s no more balance patches. My problem with the current version is; because so many characters share similar game plans, picking your favourite character sometimes feels like you might as well just play ‘X’ instead. Like base vegeta instead of bluku or 21 instead of Kefla/sbroly. On top of this, the assists spread is so bad you can’t get creative with teams. Zamasu, fat buu, frieza, and blue vegeta off the top of my head are characters that are just way too hard to stick into your favourite shell because they demand that your team be built around them due to their niche A and B assists. I get it’s ok for some characters to have defined roles, but, the way to making underplayed characters more common is not gimping their assist options

[@meatymateo705]

great video as always Rath. one little suggestion related to uploading commentary over a full match, i would recommend putting some info graphics or evidence over the gameplay to support your arguments in your commentary. It would put less focus on the match and more on your words. Still awesome regardless! excited for the next uploads

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

I'm going to be playing this game forever unless there is a sequel I'm thinking about having a second fighting game that I cycle out just so I always have a game with a healthy competitive scene in case DBFZ never gets a sequel

[@kronodex6172]

Yeah i was also planning to do the same thing, and strive seems to be the go to. It looks really fun, and with rollback online will actually be a blast to play. Cycling between a 3v3 to a 1v1 fighter should also be a nice change of pace.

[@Aripuni1]

@phoenix Try another arcys game like for example GG Strive, its a very good fighting game to started, has good rollback, cool character and good gameplay

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

@@Aripuni1 Yeah, GG Strive is gonna be that game Only problem I have with it ia that I don't like the characters that much, like even though I'm gonna main Millia and while I like her mechanically, but I don't really like how her hair-based special moves look

[@HerCake_MyFace]

I don’t think it needs a sequel rn tho. Just updates to better the game, maybe some more game modes, and obviously more fighters. But I don’t think a sequel is Necessary right now

[@kronodex6172]

@@HerCake_MyFace I think now that strive has released and melty bloods new game is coming out soon with both having rollback, fighterz is going to need a sequel now more than ever. If it doesnt get one, its netcode is going to be sticking out like a sore thumb. I'd much rather they focus their resources on a sequel with rollback than keep adding brand new content to the current game without rollback. After playing strive and seeing just how smooth the rollback is, its incredibly hard to go back to fighterz's garbage online, with how the average match barely even hits 4 frames delay, and is filled with wifi warriors and rage quitters. I feel like thats the games largest problem right now, and is something that can only be fixed in a sequel.

[@medlam9193]

Hopefully a new Arcsys x Bandai fighting game will be announced at e3

[@abfloorr]

naruro fughterz pls

[@PurePlatinumAlek]

Jojo fighterz pleaaaaase

[@GohanOXG]

As much as I want a Naruto one, I kinda want One Piece out of them cause it'd be hella sick.

[@PurePlatinumAlek]

@@GohanOXG any new fighterz game would be sick

[@GohanOXG]

@@PurePlatinumAlek For sure, I just hope ArcSys style games don't become the next new trend getting spammed like arena fighters with or without CaCs.

[@CarlosAugusto-nk2bl]

great video as always Rath! I feel the same way, i would love to see some updates like rollback but i think a DBFZ 2 with rollback is very likely to happen due to the success of the game, either way we'll continue to play this game that gave us a lot of good times, new friends and great memories!

[@yom2806]

About the background action: It’s cool to have that back there, but if you could add some chill lo-fi-esque music while you talk and mute the match it would go perfect. Maybe edit in some clips of what people are mentioning about the game. 👍🏽

[@m4aw3sum]

This game is what ninja storm wanted to be it would be a crime for this to not get continued support if not a sequel

[@Ciobrando19.]

Wish storm did this good tournament wise but only had a few. Hopefully the demon slayer game makes it into something of a tournament

[@manymanygames]

Love the game!! I’d really love a few more characters to be added and to bring the floor of the game up even more (I’m no expert in balancing but I just like seeing more characters succeed). A new game would also be amazing but it would be a bit frustrating to wait as the roster filled out all over again. Hope to keep playing this game for a long time and I hope even if we don’t get more support that there will be major offline events to watch!

[@balder7047]

If they release a new game i at least hope the base roster is close to the final roster of this one, they could reuse animations from this game so it should be doable

[@greatheightsu]

I'm glad you will continue DBFZ videos, but will you expand and do GG Strive videos too? Love your explanations and would be interested in that game.

[@raddave214]

I love the vid! I liked having gameplay in the background but I would mute the gameplay audio in the future. Nice work!

[@Orangeboy1345]

I feel like the game is in a fantastic spot (aside from netplay ofc) and I highly enjoy it and will continue to play it. Also I appreciate your positive takes on its future!

[@RedmayneDeadmayne]

People who say it's pay to win are just awful at the game

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

Yep. They refuse to admit it though.

[@aa7146]

Sound argument. 100%. Fucking clown

[@trinityassassinz9195]

Dbfz is a clown party game tbh. Tekken is leagues better

[@RedmayneDeadmayne]

@@trinityassassinz9195 Tekken puts me to sleep with how boring it is

[@RedmayneDeadmayne]

@@aa7146 I mean, its true.

[@dante9284]

I do think they'll announce a new world tour when international travel becomes widespread and realistic enough again. If they are planning a season 4/new game, they need a platform to announce it off of, and a world tour finals fits the bill perfectly. Personally I wouldn't mind more characters, but balance patches to make older characters more interesting, and better netcode (obviously) are changes that I think the community would prefer more. Whether or not Bandai reckon enough money can be made from those changes to justify investing in them is a different matter entirely. I hope that for whatever they have planned, they've learned from their experiences in the 3 years of running this game, and walk forward as smarter and more in touch developers.

[@dpedreno]

One important note on the rollback for DBFZ dream: it's Namco's call, not ArcSys, mainly. As for GT Goku's nerf, they broke his assist and the character stopped being an issue a long time ago. In the meantime, they added the one shot lvl 3 for Gogeta and UI still has every tool and some more. I feel Namco has DBFZ on autopilot now, especially after reading the leaks for an ArcSys MHA FighterZ-style. I'm hopeful for a sequel, but I don't think it'll happen before 2024 at best.

[@somea2v]

As my first tag fighter and first foray into ASW games, I'm definitely not going to stop playing DBFZ anytime soon. But for the future, I think we have a strong, diverse, and balanced cast at this point. I have complete faith they'd knock a fourth season out of the park, but I am more curious to see what a sequel would look like, what new mechanics or game changes would be implemented going forward.

[@dyb368]

After watching this video after being completely disinterested in playing dbfz since season 2, I'd watch you talk at length about just about anything Rath, dbfz or not. More discussion videos similar to this would make me happy, but like I said I just want more videos full stop.

[@thedanish5523]

I have several friends in the games industry and COVID absolutely interrupted their releases, either by forcing delays to get a complete product out, or forcing cuts to get the product out on time. It wouldn't surprise me if we got a late season 4 announcement. Personally I think we'll get a "championship edition" sometime next year after Strive's launch hype dies down.

[@boringinu2077]

in my personal preference, i just like to watch people played dbfz, everytime i jumped in online , some character man...that's painful to deal with, like ui/cell/vegeto, everytime i read the 5L and go for punish the auto combo will trace me and i got punished, and some c assist, like ui c, god...it trace full screen and have so much frame advantage(or not？maybe i'm just not ready to punish), the game fell like a one side game for me , once you get a clean hit, must of time you can win a character, i still can play well , but everytime i jumped back to online , i just feel tired after i played it, watching other played is enjoyable though, anyway dbfz have more 'WTF' moment than other fighting game, if i want to relax i just boot xrd

[@Dilloncastro2]

I predict that instead of a season 4 with characters that we get qol improvements. Like a new stage, character skins or dramatic finishes. I would love to see more what if finishes like with the gogetas

[@deathbringer9893]

11:15 correct me if im wrong but didnt cloud lvl 7 a couple pro players?

[@RathFGC]

probably. I wasn't saying level 7 won't ever happen. Just that I don't think it will be important in a big percentage of matches. The things that I think really make gogeta good are the things that come into play every time someone plays him, like his normals, second airdash, consistent damage, etc. On the note of level 7, I think Reynold is an awesome player to watch. His team is perfectly built to get level 7 as consistently as possible.

[@deathbringer9893]

@@RathFGC i myself dont think il ever get that lvl 7 unless there brain dead but il check the guy out

[@gildedgarden3932]

Im guessing the GT nerfs are due to Japan's pick rate. For some reason they still think the character is really strong to the point that the Japan scene is still running him with B assist. Idk if we are just missing something or if Japan just hasnt developed enough meta wise.

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

I don't even think Japan thinks he's that strong They just seem to use the same characters until ArcSys literally forces them to drop them Like they're still playing him even now, even though he's one tiny nerf away from being bottom tier

[@jayell2365]

@@Phoenix-pb4sm thats true I dropped GT for ssj4 gogeta after the last patch hes basically kinda useless in comparison tonither characters with similar and better tools

[@egebamyasi2929]

As much as I adore the game, I think I'm fine with it staying like this (except for some minor system changes). Aside from stages, which can always get added as DLC, I don't know what a sequel would bring to the table. If anything it might screw up what we have right now. In terms of longevity I don't think the game will stop being played for the next 3 years, at the very least. It will probably always have a side-tournament at your big majors.

[@jjxmelly]

I love this game, I’m just tired of the netcode and I would love some adjustments to knockdowns. A lot of the time I’m more scared of my opponent while they’re grounded than they are of me, regardless if I’m using safe jump setups. It feels like people can be way too random and the delay supports that randomness. Lord Knight calls DR a literal command grab online and I’m really starting to take that serious. Getting hit by randomness I reacted to online is seriously turning me off. 6M, DR and MASH = the online speciality and it’s getting exhausting. I would love some improvements. I want this game to continue to flourish but certain things are personally making me really tired of playing. I’m looking forward to Strive and Melty Blood, but I still want this game to succeed.

[@lucasyoshida9180]

Learn reflect proof strings and learn tô use assist tô cover wake up mashing btwen you jump move and falling. Knockdown still heavy favors the attacker even If is not nearly as one sided as dr and old lv 3

[@lucasyoshida9180]

Also learn a meaty with assist or without tô punish Air wake up no block

[@jjxmelly]

@@lucasyoshida9180 Thanks, I have been learning a lot of this stuff recently. People just getting off the floor doing whatever is so annoying.

[@darkmatter7713]

i will stop playing fighterz for a bit when strive comes out because this game is fun but the online really holds it back. i still play skullgirls, tfh, and ggacr+ because they have good rollback but besides tfh, skullgirls and ggacr+ are older games and i want to play something new with other people and that is why i really looking forward to strive and kof 15

[@StygianWorm]

Forgot to mention Hiroki said there will be more patches and "Improvements to the online environment" later on in the year.

[@pewpewfgc]

yooo guys if we just change the time on our clocks we can get the return of the anime, manga chapters, and dbfz 2 like right now. Man time is amazing

[@bardockvegetable6377]

Buff Low Tiers Plz :(

[@roysrevengefgcofficial1508]

Love the gameplay playing in the background, definitely keep that in your future videos! The game was incredibly fun for the first two years, but of course when the pandemic came around and you're forced to play online you don't get that same satisfaction. Then of course there's the addition of some very powerful DLC that just makes the game a little bit irritating to play. I still play from time to time but I've definitely shifted towards games with Superior netcode that I can play with my online homies without any issues. Any plans to cover strive in the future? Your analysis videos have always been top notch and would love to see that same energy for strive

[@realhitogami7679]

Hmm I got to disagree with Ss4 Gogetta being ok he has over powered auto combo that hits all the time plus his normal hit even without mashing I just be bored fighting against him cause everyone i fight has him vegeto and blue goggeta with all c assist just a disgusting sight

[@Strider315]

I personally wish they never made Strive and just focused on Fighterz or Fighterz 2 😞

[@Morlock19]

they were developing GG at the same time as they were producing new content for fighterz. no worries, they have multiple teams working on various projects.

[@SevastovTv]

If the final patch (it's coming at middle of the year I think) is full of buffs for the cast than this is going to be gold but I don't think it is going to be that crazy and I think Arc Systems should focus on GG Strive right now

[@norainu2878]

I love DBFZ but after getting really into it for years and playing offline I just can't do the netcode anymore, and since that's my (and a lot of people's) only option at this time I unfortunately have just dropped it completely. Baby was my most wanted character and even he couldn't get me to stick with the nightmare netplay. I'll be playing Strive for now but this game got me into fg's and I'm looking forward to a version with playable online, even if that's in the far future.

[@jacobrichardson4114]

I think if they make a sequel it should be shonnen fighterz and have everything from gon to guts to goku

[@liquidniteofficial]

That already came out It's called "Jump Force"

[@jacobrichardson4114]

@@liquidniteofficial lmao yeah thats like comparing Tenkaichi to fighterz

[@disposableincome]

My only problem is the latest balance patch. They could have helped out goku black and zamasu with like 2 or 3 changes each. Simple stuff like give zamasu's 5S the ability to hit small/ crouched opponents and his 236x faster and more active frames. Bam he's fixed. Obviously they hate him and want me to use Z broly so that's what I did.

[@UCDitto]

2:35 But Damn Look at that READ.

[@2ndToLast501]

"Is the game pay to win" >talks about ssj4 gogeta a full 2 months after he comes out >no mention of UI, Z Broly

[@tmannintendo]

Gt goku a assist nerf happened because you can literally do kid buu ki blasts with Gt goku assist to get instant pressure/ combo. It was op.

[@DXYS95]

So, instead of nerfing Kid Buu, who's been top 5 since the release of the game, they went after GT. I'm so done with this game and with its best characters always being the dumbest ones and the easiest to play - Gotenks being the only exception -

[@mothersmilkltd4329]

We need more videos from the lab teacher on dragon ball fighterz. I simply wanted to manifest it.

[@Gilbot9000]

I think the game is great and I'd love a 4th season or sequel. I think it's inevitable; Dragon Ball is still ultra popular, after all. But even if we don't get anything I'll still play.

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

It would be so fucking hype if the new DBS movie and DBFZ 2 released the same year like DBFZ and the Broly movie Having Moro and Granolah at launch with the new movie char as DLC would be a dream come true

[@blackjohnny0]

I feel like no one plays now. :/ And people who play are OP as hell.

[@liquidniteofficial]

This game is more likely going to get a sequel rather than more dlc, since (as you already explained) all the planned extra content for the game has concluded. Plus, what other characters do they REALLY need to add??? I'd appreciate some character changes and costumes, but that can always be saved for the next installment

[@VictorComC_]

I agree with pretty much everything you said, sadly the lack of offline play makes the game a little weaker lately but it’s still good nonetheless, pay to win doesn’t even makes sense, literally 1/3 of the best characters in the game are free(Tohan, 21, Kid buu, gotenks), I don’t think this game is gonna die so soon, another season seems like another possibility but at least for me it’s highly dependent on the competitive after GGS, I could be wrong, I think that another game like a fighterz 2 or another fighterz style game would be a bit better than a season 4 or a balance patch, but that’s just me. And yeah Gogeta is strong, but besides reynald, I don’t think anyone is gonna be going with the level 7 stat, probably if he is picked at all he is gonna be used as a mix up heavy character always in your face type.

[@basilisk5620]

Lol its my first and only fighting game.. Gonna play till servers are shut down

[@wittingterror2176]

Same, my crew fighterz till fighterz 2

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

After they shut them down I'll just find ppl offline. Hopefully we got a sequel though.

[@basilisk5620]

@@Phoenix-pb4sm i wish i had ppl to play with offline

[@spowden]

theres no servers, they'll never shut down

[@basilisk5620]

@@spowden didn't know that

[@MultiAFroDuck]

i honestly enjoy the game, but the netplay really discourages me from playing it consistently, in my area people prefer to play sports games over fighting games, so im stuck with online, its honestly the main reason why im so excited for strive after trying the rollback on there

[@darkknight072]

I think the way the character select screen is arranged nice and evenly now is proof that there won't be a season 4.

[@andrewberlinghoff6825]

Has anybody considered that none of the pros are playing Gogeta 4 because they've put so many less hours into him than characters they've maybe been playing for a year+? He is literally the latest character to release, he will naturally have a lower pick rate in the pro scene for a little while. That doesn't mean he isn't a broken pos

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

UI Goku was pretty widespread almost immediately UI Goku wasn't actually that bad, and Gogeta is pretty close to top tier, it's just that Gogeta needs a way more specific team than UI Goku did or the other top tiers do

[@GawainSSB]

Better netcode wont happen unless a sequel happens. Im sad that the game seems like its gonna end with a 12f SSJ Goku 2m lol

[@ahmettalhacoskun9169]

#bringbackgokus2M

[@grumboflipflorp5688]

I don’t really think there would be a Season 4, since all of the notable characters have largely been used up, unless they do the single biggest meme season with Goku, Goku, Goku, Goku, and Goku, since you can never have too many Gokus in this game

[@michiganjack1337]

I have over 100 hours played since the game launched and I’ve probably only played about 10 online matches. (Platform PC) - Fingers crossed if and when DBFZ2 comes out it will have rollback. - jinx😅🖖

[@RathFGC]

I would really love for a better online experience in the future so more people can play online ;_;

[@metroidfan5936]

I’m sad to say I left the fighterz scene due to my lack of skill. But ehh it was nice to try tho. Might jump back into the smash ultimate scene tho

[@rando9326]

That’s even worse and honestly just not worth your time

[@desert_sam9651]

Tbh im kinda glad strive is coming out we can finally kiss this game goodbye

[@CereDulce37]

Who's ur prof pic 👀👀

[@Johten]

I have a strong feeling we will not get season 4. If we did I'd be very convinced we would get a rollback addition because they would want to keep the game alive and running keeping up with the other new gen fighting game releases that have rollback from the start. I would say it's more realistic that we get a second addition to the FighterZ series with either another anime or just another variation of the current game. It's just unrealistic to say FighterZ would stay relevant with its current netcode and more fighting games coming out with better connections.

[@Morlock19]

so to go through a few of the questions: 1) is this pay to win? not right now no. UI goku is the one character i can think of that has the ease of use AND the general kit that makes me think P2W, but barely even that. people cry P2W when a good cahracter is easy to pick up and play. ya'll need to calm down on that. 2) what do it hink will happen next? there were rumors of a new dragon ball project coming up - a movie or something. if that is happening i wouldn't be surprised to also see what i like to call Super Dragon Ball FighterZ. This game is massively popular, even years after its release, so its making a ton of money for toei. if they are developing more DB media, they'd be fools not to take advantage. the game as it is is over. i think the team has moved to other projects. we have a fully completed game on our hands. 3) do i think the game is still good? hell yes i do. i love playing fighterz. yes even online, though a new game with rollback would be amazing. i will probably continue to play fighterz regularly. the game feels balanced at my level, which is crazy to me. if they never did another balance patch i'd be fine with it. plus? i've never played this game offline - i don't have local friends who play. so the netcode isn't keeping me from enjoying it. 4) is guilty gear going to kill fighterz? no. they are wildly different games in terms of function and style. GG is more like street fighter than fighterz. its like saying a new tekken game is going to kill fighterz, it makes no sense. people who just love fighting games will of course move to GG, but people who like fighterz because of the specific kind of game it is... we'll keep playing and not move on. the main thing i want from fighterz now is this to continue. i want fighterz to be a long running franchise, something where i can look forward to DLC and new games on a regular timeline. i want a fighterZ 2, 3, 4, whatever. if i don't get that, like i said above - i'd really love to see a game with a similar style, or for disney and capcom to kiss and make up and give us a 2D cartoony marvel game. i like tag fighters, i always have, and i don't like slower games like SF or - yes - guilty gear. the pure frenetic energy from turbo style games like fighterz and the capcom marvel series is what i crave. honestly if it weren't for covid i wouldn't have been surprised if we saw an announcement for FighterZ 2 at E3 or evo. SS4 Gogeta was clearly supposed to be the last character in the game - just the face that its blue vs SS4 in the dramatic finish tells me that. all in all - i still love the game warts and all. the core gameplay is solid, the visuals are beautiful, and it is playable online... at least to me, a majin level player who just goes into ranked for the fun of it. i just hope we get a new game, or a game with the same mechanics, in the near future. i'd pre-oder that game as soon as the news dropped.

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

1. Nobody complained that Bardock in S1 was pay to win even though he was way stronger than UI Goku and way easier UI Goku is literally just more frustrating because he's a defensive counter character, he's pretty tame when you compare him to past top tiers or even Z Broly now

[@ndk4]

I feel really intimidated whenever i see broly or gogeta ssj4. I always have a problem even if they are 2 tiers lower than mine. I use blueku, basegita and teengohan. Only teengohan seems to catch up with their speed on mashing battle

[@Sedp23]

I still think both gogetas and Vegetos have big advantages in the game

[@Swoldridge]

Whelp, with My Hero supposedly being the next game after DNF Duel it seems like DBFZ isn't getting a season 4 or DBFZ 2 until at least 2023 or later.

[@ruikirisame1744]

even though i despite some dlc characters, i just want to play a ranked match without having the UI goku/Super broly player ragequit because ""oh no, my precious dlc got killed my A21" i've made my peace with the netcode, portugal doesn't get a lot of fighting game people anyway

[@bojackaumiel9763]

For me the GT nerf is simple, the Gogeta GT A would have been too good and with Broly or piccolo assist you'd EASILY win neutral I think but it's just what I think 🤔

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

Gogeta isn't broken and GT's old A assist wouldn't change that

[@Name-qo6gz]

If we do get a sequel, i think it has to be after the DB Super anime comes back

[@sammorin254]

I don't want a season 4, I want a second game that carries the roster and adds rollback. Also nerf UI more

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

UI Goku is definitely fine where he is, and the DBFZ roster needs a total rework in numerous ways

[@PsychicJaguar19]

I’ve been watching Dragon ball since I was a kid and it was on toonami. And I’ve played just about every DB game there is. This is without a doubt my favorite one, because it’s a fighting game and it’s a balanced competitive fighting game. I will always play it. Im excited for GG and will play that frequently but I won’t drop DB for it. As for season 4, I think it’s unlikely but I’d love to see it. And I do feel like the game is very balanced. If they gave the low tiers some small buffs that would be even better, goku black, Zamasu for ex. As for pay to win, I disagree. I do see why people say that so, especially if you have a team like UI, SSJ4 Gogeta, and z Broly or something. But if it were truly the case then we’d see red Gogeta in tournaments more often.

[@powpowbang]

All they have to do in dbfz2 is add transformations..and take out the clones.. Maybe add more stages with destructive buildings,levels..i want to throw my enemy into a wall and follow up with my attack..no corner lock downs..

[@hylanderOP]

DBFZ 2 with better netcode seems to be the best way forward. If nothing else I would love a REAL balance patch to make some of the weaker characters a bit more playable.

[@GetHighxAnime]

I agree with u. DBFZ for me will be like Storm4 5 years later and im still playing

[@demosnipertf2165]

I love ssj4 gogeta but i think he would've been balanced if you wanted to use lvl7 you would need all 7 bars, and don't get me wrong some experienced players can have lvl7 instantly trough a combo and please tell me how do you feel about it

[@seniorsterling1064]

But remember he has no neutral so it definitely evens out

[@kungfukenny1438]

Pay to win is z Broly....

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

Z Broly is definitely the most braindead and broken character in this game but he's still not even that bad. You wanna see bad look at S1 DBFZ or other fighting games.

[@kungfukenny1438]

@@Phoenix-pb4sm Broly isn’t that bad....he’s horrible

[@viniciusm.190]

Everyone likes the Idea of a sequel But here on Brazil the game is pretty criminal on its price, would prefer a update but sadly i know that will not happen :(

[@Beans-do6wc]

I'm completely fine with the game for now. Really, all I'd want is for my mains to become broken if they made a patch. That, or just give some characters some new moves and new routes

[@Tech_Support404]

I played this morning some "Casual" matches. There's wasn't a single match out of 14 that I played where my opponent's team did not include UI Goku or SS4 Gogeta, not a single one, some had both and of course at least 1 C-assist. The "meta" for this game is toxic and stale

[@glumstingray8759]

I just got it from gamepass and i see vids like thid lol, would u say its worth getting into the multiplayer now as f2p?

[@Tech_Support404]

@@glumstingray8759 Nope

[@glumstingray8759]

@@Tech_Support404 k thanks👌 story still seems sick tho

[@nqfgc]

We DONT need a sequel This game is too good There will be a schism you fellas don't understand People will divide themselves between fighterz 1 and 2 It's not necessary Not everything needs a sequel Stand alones are amazing Movies : Requiem for a Dream (no sequel); Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (no sequel) TV : Mirai Nikki (no sequel) Death Note (no sequel) Attack on Titan (hopefully no sequel lol) The point is we don't need sequels and rehashes of every yk?

[@zdooken5056]

wouldn't be surprised if we got a Dragon Ball Fighterz Complete Edition, with a balance patch. but I imagine we wont get new Characters. with the cast as is, I think any team is viable. That being said I get tired of everyone just picking all the Fusions and Brolys plus UI. wish there was more variety in that respect. I think that is just a product of playing online. makes me wish there was a FGC in my area. But that makes me excited for Strive. being able to play with more people from all over :)

[@dLucho]

IMO the game is done, maybe we will get some balance patches but i dont think we are gonna get a S4, rollback or DBFZ 2. Now with shueisha as the top boss

[@SantiLokyyo]

My main problem is the netcode. It honest to God it's the thing that makes me the most angry about this game: when something drops because of lag or i can't react because of lag it's the worst

[@ilcapo7957]

Only things I dont like: -matchmaking, never find a match and when then overpowered sweater🤣 -need to buy characters

[@dinogt8477]

you need better internet

[@synysterpain]

Pretty much dropping dragon ball for guilty gear lol

[@cadsworth4380]

Same. That whole cast (minus may. Fuck may) look so goddamn cool, and it will he refreshing to try smth new

[@YaBoiPhil]

Eh, I'm gonna wait in GG. The new Beta did not make me confident; It seems too simple and seems to do away with stuff from Xrd that I liked. Like its shaping to be the SFV equivalent for that series

[@synysterpain]

@@YaBoiPhil I mostly played Ino and had fun lol but yeah I played guilty gear xx and xrd and can feel the difference. Each game has gotten a bit less completely and slower paced I feel, but idk I think the game will get better over time and I had fun with the beta and the netcode. Had more fun than I've in in dragonball for awhile

[@YaBoiPhil]

@@synysterpain Thats very true! I didn't play Xrd Sign or Rev 1, so idk how those were taken at the time. But hopefully if the launch isn't great, we end up with a Strive Rev 2 or something that irons everything out. I still love DragonBall, but i really only play locals cause playing online is begging for me to stop having fun.

[@cerejadoll]

definitely cool about the gameplay in the background

[@pipsqueack]

I think it's more fitting to say you can still lose with any character/ team

[@7thsaga662]

Great vid man

[@Dantarn]

It's pretty hard to get into the game as it is. At low ranks you either run into people that don't know how to block or people that are smurfing and stomping noobs with SSJ4 Gogeta

[@Shione_Starlight]

If you can’t beat the no block players they deserve to be down there.

[@RedmayneDeadmayne]

I don't get why you'd complain about people who don't know how to block at low ranks. Can you not beat them? It should be simple

[@Dantarn]

@@RedmayneDeadmayne Beating them is easy. What I'm complaining about is the disparity between fighting them and smurfs. Either way there's hardly anything to learn since you either are stomping people or they're stomping you.

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

@@Dantarn Yeah, even if there weren't a ton of in-game reasons to make a DBFZ sequel, it needs one just so the competitive scene can be refreshed both for newcomers and the tournament scene

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

UI Goku did not get a slap on the wrist lmao

[@ovnbun1981]

Meh. He's still obnoxiously potent, but I guess the case can be summed up to "Agree to Disagree".

[@ali-kun7038]

He went from top 1 to top 5, he is still so fucking good.

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

@@ali-kun7038 He's not top 5 With Z Broly, Gotenks, Base Vegeta, Android 21, and Base Goku there are just too many characters obviously better than him

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

@@ovnbun1981 Yeah, he's still really good, but he's undeniably fair now, and if they nerfed him more he'd just go the route of GT Goku where he barely functions and has nothing unique or fun And now that UI Goku's easy broken tools got nerfed, players gotta start using all his weird crazy shit they've been pretending doesn't exist TL;DR Weird that in the same video Rath both implies GT got over-nerfed and is advocating the same for UI

[@ali-kun7038]

@@Phoenix-pb4sm listen pal, just because you can't wake up tech into lvl 1 beam to escape corner safely anymore doesn't mean he isn't good... He still has reversals, the only character to mix you in your own oki, a flip that's either plus or a grab or a reversal or a cross up and god tier normals and specials is easily top 5 and he is definitely better than baseku but idk about base vegeta or a21. and don't compare him to gt goku he didn't have reversals or dp or lvl 1 counter, he was broken due to system mechanics and that busted spirit bomb, and since they nerfed both atleast he would've still been top 10.

[@80knaj9]

They should add new parts for story mode too and add new modes and the characters like broly and more are pay to win

[@forsakencookie9127]

I'm still waiting for them to add bojack or God of Destruction Toppo.

[@cerejadoll]

what is rollback netcode?

[@idk72.]

basically, when you do a move, it comes out instantly, but you won't see the animation until a certain number of frames have pased, however, the game can guess what will you do as soon as a button is pressed judging by your older actions, if it guesses right, it will show all frames of the move, but if it guesses wrong, it will just adjust to match the input, if you've seen gg strive, you probably didn't realize that sometimes the animation of a jump starts then it gets switched to the fireball, this is because the netcode is very good, but in a game like, for example, sfv, you'll usually see weird things if your opponent doesn't have 4 or more conection bars, this is because it was badly implemented, it's not the rollback's fault

[@cerejadoll]

@@idk72. thanks for the complete answer! It was very easy to understand :)

[@johnhelmes8261]

There's def a s4 but I can't say anything till they announce