The D&D movie breaks druids - here’s why

I know everybody's going off about the Owlbear, but that's tied to her backstory, as explored in the novelization. It's that 7-shapes-in-as-many-minutes that would REALLY break the game!
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[@PerfectSaga]

The DM said it was okay, so we all rolled with it.

[@master-zaynelotus5048]

That's a good one, nice!

[@JohnWasinger]

Would the movie director be considered as the DM?

[@sjhorton1184]

Exactly why our party's Eladrin Druid can just produce infinite amounts of any fruit or vegetable she wishes. And not even in a "casts druidcraft" kind of way.

[@DangoHsu]

​@@JohnWasinger Director of the Movie, or DM for short.

[@nathannguyen1431]

Yeah, it's house rule. Another theory I saw on reddit is that she's a custom druid who can't cast spell, but burn spell slots to wildshape, and the slot determines the cr.

[@zoeborja5260]

The realest dnd moment was the speak with dead spell and wasting all the damn questions by accident 😂

[@Revan1939]

I’m sure it’s exactly what my party would do as well

[@phillipallen3259]

That was so funny, accurate and perfect! I loved that!

[@bungerroyale112]

I've done that before, one of my favourite moments in the film to be honest

[@pyrobaka5227]

The party I dm'ed for literally did something similar to that once, it was amazing

[@TTHJJD100]

That or spending an hour planning the questions and everything is a useless answer to the plan

[@MaxwellKasper]

I'm still convinced Ed is a rogue that thinks he's a bard. Those lute sneak attacks were vicious.

[@zoeborja5260]

That’s what my group was saying!!

[@kerilithia]

I'm pretty sure he started as a bard, multiclassed into rogue then wound up surpassing his original class in rogue levels.

[@MaxwellKasper]

@@kerilithia I can dig it.

[@atsukana1704]

He also failed to use any bard abilities during the course of the movie

[@MaxwellKasper]

@@atsukana1704 I'd debate that he was handing out inspiration like it was pocket change all movie, but not even a cantrip of casting? Come on, man.

[@torfinnzempel6123]

Agree 100%. I immediately caught that that was too many shifts, but still found it enjoyable.

[@maddie9602]

Yeah, I was like "how high level is she?" Before ultimately deciding it didn't matter and acknowledging, as Ginny said, it's a fun sequence, who cares. Similarly, there's a moment where a caster probably should have been aware they were counterspelled, RAW, but it was a fun moment, and it doesn't need to strictly adhere to the rules, it just needs to capture the vibe of playing DnD, which I think it did rather well.

[@jonsimpson6240]

Old-school rules: you have x rounds per level wildshaped. They don't have to be consecutive.

[@sethb3090]

All she did was wild shape, no spells, so it evens out

[@durgum]

The NPC sheets they made gave her 5, but 5 is still not 7 but its the movies.

[@swspartanhwk]

Well depends on the level cause if she was level 20 it was not too many

[@PuddinTaim]

Plot twist: She’s a 4th Edition Druid and can Wild Shape once per turn as a minor action.

[@nathanielberele9174]

Yes!

[@davidstratton696]

She’s specifically called a moon druid tho which is a 5e thing. Honestly it matters not tho it’s still fun af to watch.

[@RamblingSailors]

New player: Can I bring my 4th edition druid? DM: yeah, that should keep everyone guessing.

[@Ewafingmyth]

Plot Untwist: she casted Polymorph

[@davidstratton696]

@@Ewafingmyth That makes more sense. Tho I don’t know y she would use up all her spell slots during that escape 😂. That also would explain y she’s able to transform into an owlbear. Also plot untwist? Never heard of that.

[@Owain9797]

My friend and I went on for like 15 minutes after watching it about all the little nitpicky things but, at the end of the day, as fun as it is to nitpick, it couldn’t matter less. The movie was super fun and that’s the thing that matters

[@sethb3090]

Most importantly, it felt like D&D. the nonsense the party got up to was believably stuff players would come up with. The player setting off the trap midway through the explanation and then the DM making up another way for them to get across because crap, I didn't have a plan for what to do if they fail at this ("Um, sorcerer, roll Arcana. 8? Great. So you look at this walking stick and you realize...") was a perfect example.

[@PheonixLove]

BTW! the official DnD account released a video explaining that it's ok the druid could turn into an Owlbear because they said so😂😂 which is exactly what a DM would do😅

[@swadow1497]

One of my players wanted a pet owlbear and so overtime I more and more just transformed the owlbear into a beast type monster. Because like fuck it why not.

[@cinnastag]

It was considered a beast in older versions. DnD 5e is the outlier here.

[@JaySwag77]

Wait what is an owl bear considered now?

[@nathans9764]

@@JaySwag77 It's a monstosity in 5E. Most "hybrid" creatures are monstrosities.

[@cinnastag]

@@JaySwag77 in 5e it's a Monstrosity.

[@TBoring]

I actually think the party was at level 17 and Doric was using Shapechange (she’s limited in what she can turn into because of her sheltered upbringing). Simon had access to some pretty high leveled spells and seemed pretty certain he could Counterspell the Time Stop indicating he had a 9th level slot. Also Ed may be credited as a Bard but he took the Valor Bard subclass at level 3 and then went Mastermind Rogue the rest of the way.

[@TheGIJew.]

According to their statblocks on d&d beyond they're all CR5 except for Xenk, and they're not direct 1:1 equivalents to normal character classes. There's no way any of them were equivalent to level 17. Technically you can counterspell any level spell with a third level slot, so the highest level spell we know Simon cast was Bigby's Hand

[@TBoring]

@@TheGIJew.he does use Reverse Gravity (by accident but still). Also I think Simon is a Divine Soul Sorcerer (which is why he was asked to heal at the end) and he cast raise dead 4 times. He could have used Sorcery points for extra spell slots or just upcasted the spell.

[@waves_under_stars]

@@TBoring He didn't cast Raise Dead, He casted Speak With Dead, and he used a reflavored scroll to do it

[@culturewarsdiplomacy]

@@waves_under_starsneeeeeeerd, I was going to say that.

[@TheGIJew.]

@@TBoring He used a magic item to cast raise dead, and cast reverse gravity because of wild magic.

[@aeloswindrunner]

Agreed, it felt like it was true to the game while making things work for a different medium

[@Noobie2k7]

The thing is though we've already had 2 full seasons now of Vox Machina which manages to be an entertaining and engaging visual medium while still staying in line with the actual rules and mechanics of the game and the player classes. There's not really an excuse.

[@treaveannyretro92]

​@@Noobie2k7 tv and movies, even though they are both visual mediums, have different rules on how they make storytelling work There's also the frontier between live action and animation, which again have both pros and cons on how you need to tackle certain things

[@lukehodge9026]

I think it also reflects her panic, where she was just wildly trying things without thinking it through, also she was already spotted as a fly so maybe she wanted something a bit more durable or faster.

[@TheRealRobertG]

On dndbeyond they’ve made doric in a character pack. And on that stat sheet she only has 5 wild shapes per short/long rest. 😂

[@hoid9407]

DM felt bad about the BBEG's Nat 20 perception roll, so Dorric got some leeway during all that

[@AFLoneWolf]

Nerfed her

[@Newnodrogbob]

Yeah, but didn’t she have a different ability that was basically the same, but with a different name?

[@Nortarachanges]

I just retconned the first rat and the cat morphs. They weren’t really needed, and I just imagined she just kept the fly and hawk morphs for those moments ^_^

[@stbaf5070]

Questionable: She could have the Druid 2 Wildshapes from the Druid Class and from her statblock the 5 Bonus Wildshapes as "special action" that include the Owlbear if wanted .. 2 regular + 5 special ability = 7 Wildshapes per Rest

[@herbertkraft7379]

I totally died at Meteor Swarm + Time Stop. Too many 9th level spellslots.

[@forceoflazy]

I thought that was something like Melf's Minute Meteors. Those medium sized explosions aren't really what I'd imagine 40ft radius of 40d6 damage would look like.

[@Veran42]

Yeah she cast like 20 meteor swarms and I was sitting there with my friend and we both tried not to yell, still a fun movie though

[@VinceValentine]

Could be an item?

[@dragonearth5456]

@@forceoflazy would have been the older school meter swarm which is a lot of smaller attacks instead of the 4 big ones. Probably wasn’t meteor swarm though so idk.

[@Sowde38]

Could have been a scroll...

[@ryanroyce]

Doric had a homebrew subclass that allowed her to sacrifice her Spellcasting feature for infinite wild shapes that include monstrosities like the Owlbear. Doric's DM was cool like that. :)

[@Nortarachanges]

I would be tempted to take that offer. Wonder if it took a bonus action or a full action ^_^

[@RamblingSailors]

For casting no spells it had better be a bonus action. It gave her advantage in fights for sure.

[@neebling]

Okay I accept this headcanon. The whole time I was sitting there wondering why she hadn't cast a single spell. I like this much more.

[@ryanroyce]

@@neebling it has since occurred to me that a subclass that allowed druids to spend spell slots to wildshape (and higher level spell slots to wildshape into non-beasts) would actually be really fun to play

[@Nortarachanges]

@@ryanroyce like an add on to Moon Druid or its own thing?

[@silver_tongue_studio]

I also think we are only applying 5e rules to this. There are plenty of 3.5e PrC's that allow this without making a character super powerful.

[@Krypticklefist]

This!! Also, while I don't think D&D One was necessarily considered for the movie, at 13th level a druid is free to shift forms freely as a bonus action

[@Tailon42]

Thing is, they specifically called her a Moon Druid which would signify 5e in particular... and the only one to have their subclass called out, unless they did call our Sorcerer a wildmagic path

[@XanderHarris1023]

​@@Tailon42 Simon said the anti gravity was Wild Magic but didn't necessarily claim that as his identity.

[@cinnastag]

​@@XanderHarris1023 Okay but...that's not the same as outright using the words moon druid =)

[@terra_the_nightingale135]

@@Tailon42 the paladin is Oath of the Ancients since he mentioned the tenet of the ancients. I assume Simon was a wild magic sorcerer since they did say he used wild magic.

[@MGG87]

For GinnyDi here and everyone else, there was a DM on set, helping them with mechanics and rules and such. The studio followed as much as they could, but said that for some things (especially with the Wild Shaping) they took the, "filmography over accuracy" approach. Which, it was totally worth it because, it was a great movie.

[@katria2412]

I totally agree. I play as a druid myself and I love the class, but I still think this scene was super fun. One of my favorites in the movie :D

[@critternovaturient8040]

When the seal is broken by the helmet and immediately talk via sending stone right after

[@mysql50]

Ok, yes, but can we talk about how fabulous that green dress is! 💚💚💚

[@Scott-np7sl]

That was probably my fav sequence in the movie. Really fun camera work.

[@noahstrube1027]

I really like how every character got one scene to really got to show off their skills in the movie. That was clearly hers, and it was super fun to watch.

[@Birdman_LIVE]

You’re 100% right. I have one. Not a rule break per say (and maybe it’s a leveling thing) but I liked how they dramatized attunement.

[@Nortarachanges]

Truth!!

[@WhitneyHempsey]

100% this! Aside from the tubby dragon, that was my favorite.

[@Ghost-lk2fc]

Even in an actual game, sometimes the rule of cool is the way to go, and house rules are always a good way to add balance and make it feel a bit more consistent, as well.

[@EvanFarshadow]

I just like to think Doric is a level 20 Moon Druid that got permission from the DM to become an Owlbear

[@bishfish7726]

Rip Edgin who's a "bard" but has none of his class abilities :(

[@katherineberger6329]

The way he casts is a lot more subtle than we expect from watching Scanlan Shorthalt, but he definitely casts several bardic spells.

[@itwasidio1736]

You're absolutely right, but his whole narrative purpose is that he ties the whole group together as a strategist rather than mechanically during fights- he definitely didn't min-max like the other characters, which is fine, but DID give Bardic Inspiration in how he spoke to each of them, helping them play to their strengths. Everyone asks FOR the manager, nobody asks ABOUT the manager, basically.

[@orsolyafekete7485]

You could very easily argue that he used Bardic Inspiration all the time, and even that he used Song of Rest isn't that big of a stretch

[@TStalker013]

Edgin's an NPC. A plot device by the DM to get the group together and guide them through a heist campaign.

[@SabertoothDeathmouse]

I like to think that he more or less abandoned anything to do with being a harper, which included his bard abilities. Keeping his lute just for blending in. So, while he may have cast some things subconsciously, that's why we didn't see any overt castings.

[@pogeman2345]

Someone in the comments section of a WatchMojo video talking about the D&D movie commented that it could be that she's a Master of Many Forms subclass from 3.5 which could explain the multiple wild shapes and how she could become an owlbear.

[@ciucc3llone]

Yes, added to the complete warrior's combat shapeshifter

[@icreatethingzz]

As the Druid of the party, I looked to my dungeon master (who was watching the movie with me) during the entire wild shape scene. I was like “ I WANNA DO THAT PLEASEEEE “

[@duckmaster5512]

I think they should add a special version of wild shape where you can transform at will but, damage should carry over between all forms

[@naten6981]

The post credit scene should have been all the actors sitting around the table playing the game. (Kind of like in "1 for all")

[@WolfricThorsson]

The druid using a metal dagger as well to chip at the stone through the portal lol

[@flameofmage1099]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that counted the wildshapes lol

[@RIVERSRPGChannel]

Agreed It was a good movie I didn’t like how the bard cast no spells.

[@momosquad23]

On dnd beyond he has spells and I saw an article where it was stated he'll "level up" and have magic if they were blessed enough to be able to do a sequel

[@Sowde38]

I think he's a rogue with a lute

[@josephmorphew397]

I feel like he was a rouge with a couple levels in bard. If felt like he had the inspiring leader feat as well.

[@allaryin]

The rockie-talkies Simon hands out are very different than a standard sending stone pair. My kids noticed that one ;)

[@justanotherdayinthelife9841]

Druids should be able to have more wild shapes than they do now. Balance it by making the druid drop out of a shape once they have reached the regular hp max of the animal OR the character (whichever comes first) in damage. Allow them to have as many wild shapes before rest as they have levels.

[@stuponfucious7]

The Red Wizard dodging MAGIC FREAKING MISSILE at the end was a rule break.

[@pottersdog]

Occasionally I grant druids one or two additional transformations (dependant) whenever that wouldn't involve them exhausting themselves and only outside combat etc since it gives them more options for solving problems with flavour and creativity whilst the rest of the party are sprinting at the speed of sound across the map, reading peoples minds etc. I've seen the table really enjoy it when the druid used it to mess with an npc and frame someone for something hilarious. It's then that they realised they didn't need combat to solve every confrontation or quest and started gelling as a group. You can also give them the option for an extra transformation in a dire situation but only into a small/tiny creature if you want a more combat based house roll, basically if they fail to escape and regroup after that they have so few hp that the enemy can one hit them but it gives them and the party a small chance to survive the encounter.

[@24kRobot]

Excellent and spot on opinion!! I’m so glad you understand not to get hung up on the deets, so to speak. It was a fun introduction and still a great fan service. Sometimes, in story telling especially a visually one requires some liberties.

[@dohrniigamesgamedesign8030]

Each different canvas of storytelling has it's own ways to work, that's why in videogames you need several bullets to die or several slashes, it's not about accuracy or realism, it's about what fits best

[@AndromedaCripps]

My DM and fellow player who I went to see the film with spent the e tire car ride home pointing out all the little inaccuracies 😂😂😂 But we had the same exact thought about all of them that you expressed here: We didn’t mind!! The movie did a good job of showing off and making a film out of the game mechanics, even if they weren’t exactly accurate. They still payed homage to all the fun times we as players and DMs remember from all our games ❤️ The first one I can think of off the top of my head is the Speak with Dead. They made it 5 questions like a Contact Other Plane, even though Speak with Dead is one of the few where you just get to chat infinitely in the 1 minute or 10 minutes or whatever it is that the duration is! But that shows off the funny quirky flavor of so many other DnD spells like Contact Other Plane that have those “arbitrary numbers” involved, while using a much more lower-level and accessible spell that keeps the energy of the movie at a good place early on. Like, they couldn’t exactly have them contacting an Archdevil to ask a question 30 minutes in 😂😂😂 Also the Wildshape!!! She transforms into an Owlbear which isn’t a Beast, so for Wildshape or polymorph it would be impossible!! OH and a bonus one which was weirdly very specifically accurate 😂 The Paladin!!! First scene with him, he is seen talking to a fish and gently calming it down to get it to cough up the tabaxi child. And the first thing I thought was “Umm, Speak with Animals or Dominate Beast or whatever isn’t on the Paladin list”. BUT THEN LATER when he is about to leave the party, he gives this whole speech that starts with “I remember the Tenets of the Ancients” and I went “HEY!!! An Oath of the Ancients Paladin is all about protecting nature; they totally have spells like that on their list!!!!” And sure enough, Ancients Paladins so get Speak with Animals! So that one is weirdly nichely quite accurate when it totally didn’t have to be 😂

[@bkgcosplay5873]

Me personally do homebrews like this all the time for my dnd game. We had our druid change a few times because it was out of combat or a less important moment you can go through as many as you like. During combat and 'imporant moments' also limited to 2 but for purely roleplay purposes it was great fun!

[@itsthatwhale]

The other rule break is that she shouldn't be able to turn into an owlbear

[@AmberMetallicScorpion]

not really. she has a stat block saying she can

[@Riot_Bird]

Honestly, it makes it feel more realistic to how someone would actually act if they could shape shift

[@WhatsUpGazpacho]

I wish combat and wildshape and everything was more like how it was depicted in the movie BUT I understand that there is a huge difference between an on screen adaptation and a game with multiple players all with cool things to do As a DM, I will try to implement more of what was in the movie however, as that's just what I like. Dael from @MonarchsFactory on @GhostfireGaming said maybe a druid could use their spell slots for more wildshapes and I am here for that kind of game

[@JaxsonNute2005]

I also found it funny that the paladin npc walks in a straight line after he departs from the party

[@SonoranD]

Well said! The one rule they always followed in the movie was the rule of cool I see other people pointing out the other obvious one, which is the Owlbear, because it's a "monster," same rule follows. For the movie it was so cool to see!

[@hellofend4734]

"there's a wildshape *among us*" - red wizard, antagonist

[@Rebel37th]

I was counting the number of wild shapes as well! But it does liven things up and explore possibilities. Similar to Simon using Maximillian’s Earthen Grasp against Sofina’s Mage Hand (first spells that came to mind watching it)

[@patatebleue6408]

What me and my friends thought was that it was probably like a house rule and their DM decided that wild shape was like a time period where you can shapeshift as much as you want during that time.

[@josephpatterson78]

It's the cinematic equivalent of the Rule of Cool, and dear LORD, was it marvelously executed.

[@derleonator2232]

It was like her player said: "Can I have more wildshapes with progressing levels instead of going from 2 to unlimited and therefore give up spellcasting. Oh and can I turn into an owlbear?" And the DM allowed it, turning her not into a caster but instead into a martial that can turn into animals for combat and utility

[@Vercopaanir]

I did notice the 7 wild shapes but the movie was so fun that by the time I got home I had forgotten and never went to check my PHB 😂 and I totally agree, it was way more interesting this way!

[@iandaughdrill5889]

I spent most of the movie thinking the tiefling was a satyr. I realized when she used her tail for the thing with the portal.

[@roamingbloodmane482]

There was the owl bear wild shape but that is as simple as the dm saying "sure I'll allow it"

[@ShaunO1225]

My SIL played a druid and gave an interesting compromise to the WildShape limits. Rather then just general use have a time limit between rests. This way she could use multiple shapes but still only be in animal form for no more then an hour (2 hours)

[@frederickayer3602]

Potential alternate wild shape rules: choose standard WILD shape with 1/2 level number of HOURS in the SAME Beast, OR WILDER shape with level number of ROUNDS allowing shifting forms each round as a bonus action. Thoughts? Either way im using it has a DM for future games, would love some balance/hole-poking suggestions

[@thoughtgaming492]

The movie followed the rules in the right places and broke the rules in the right places. 7 wildshapes, 2 9th level spell slots, turning into an owlbear, etc etc etc are all excellent additions for the movie and were well used.

[@AlexanderofThebes]

A nice fan theory is that the table playing this game has just flavored her spells into wildshape like a cat has featherfall, deer having longstrider, etc

[@Imagicka]

Way back during the beginning of the 3rd edition era one of the first things I created was a magical item that would allow druids to wildshape into magical beasts without their abilities. After 5th level the item unlocked to allow for the supernatural and spell like abilities. I was always creating things to give to classes that would stick with 1 class and not multiclass.

[@_Gondor44_]

I was sitting in the theatre counting off all of her wild shapes and thought, “what level is she? This can’t be right!”

[@Hearth_Moonstone]

It also depends on if there were short rests involved, due to wildshape coming back from any rest (granted have not seen the movie yet unfortunatly)

[@Jeffin8or]

My headcanon since the first trailer has been that she IS a level 20 archdruid. This explains the wild shapes AND the owlbear, since she'd have access to shapechange

[@falconashek8913]

I use the old Displacer Beast skin to bend light three feet from it's location. The movie had it's armor smashing, spiked barbed tentacles projecting like a hologram.

[@ChasoGod]

Since her primary wildshape is the owlbear I didn't mind she used multiple ones during the escape sequence as it was just flavorful.

[@lando8295]

I totally agree. Dorics excessive wild shape was the only thing that I couldn't say was a direct mechanic in the game that worked one to one, but they did it for the right reason. And overall I loved the movies so It still works and is fun

[@Casey093]

Doric's low-power shapeshifting is what all every druid player ask for since the release of 5e. :D

[@ailonrouge]

Didn't notice the wild shape thing, I was questioning the owlbear shape, more.

[@r3dbear]

She also wild shapes into an OWLBEAR twice or thrice, which is a MONSTROSITY, & wild shape only works with BEASTS

[@FreakaLeake007]

Couldn't agree more! That scene was SO much fun. It wouldn't have been nearly as exciting if she only wild shaped twice, or remained a fly.

[@embyr3000]

Also to note is that Doric (iirc) doesn't use any other magic. This was probably so a viewer that's not familiar with DnD wouldn't get confused by all of the differences between how different classes can cast magic, but it also lets you explain it away by just saying "well, this was a homebrew circle for the druid. They were allowed to cast wildshape at will and with less restrictions on what they transformed to, but they gave up being able to use any other spells." At the end of the day, DnD is a collaborative storytelling game, the rules are there to give guidance and help the story flow but they shouldn't get too much in the way of the story itself.

[@Minifig3D]

They released the character sheets on DnD Beyond and it's not even technically Wild Shape anymore. She has a custom ability called Change Shape. Fun homebrew, lol.

[@505DGuy]

There's a possibility that Doric is using the spell animal shapes which would allow her to change into different animals as an action on each turn

[@chadthelake8974]

Personally, I've been running a rule that allows you to use spell slots to wlld shape since watching the movie, it makes sense considering Doric never actually casts any other spells lol

[@OhioPuppy]

A voice of benevolent sanity. Thank you.

[@asherael]

it took surprisingly few liberties with "the rules" honestly, it was a thrilling chase, I think they did a great job

[@LishNess1]

OK but like I NEED to know where you got your shirt! It's so cute!

[@lindsaydance_05]

After we watched the movie my dad said "I want to be whatever that girl who shifted into like 20 things when we finally play." My grandfather said something along the lines of 'I don't think you can actually do that, I'm definitely no expert but it seemed unrealistic even for d&d' and my grandmother was just there like I'd probably be able to the d&d people were shocked about all the 'nat 20s' I was rolling. She's probably right I'd cave if her level were high enough and she rolled another 5 nat 20s in row.

[@dallasfitzmartin7277]

Everyone testing Simon as the only spell caster cause Chris Pine was a Bard and Doric should be able to cast spells

[@paranoidplumber]

As a DM and a previous moon druid PC I got sleep at night justifying the scene as her using two wild hairs and also preparing polymorph and casting it multiple times in her self in the escape scene.

[@Shadowkunakari]

In my mind Doric talked with their DM and came to the agreement that they were taught the ability to use spell slots as wild shape slots if they were out!

[@profdouglas1392]

Pretty sure Simon is channeling 2 concentration spells when Ed and Holga find him at the tavern. The half cast of blur is one, and then whatever ongoing spell that is collecting all the coins and trinkets. Both of these dispel when he sees Ed in the back, which could have been him taking psychic damage and failing the concentration check or just losing control of both out of shock.

[@tadious9415]

The way Time Stop worked was very different, but also cooler than the 5e Time Stop. Attunement was different but way more cinematic and a nice way to do that. The things they changed in the mechanics made a lot of sense. And I'm glad they stuck as close to the rules as they did so that you got to see different things that are hallmarks of D&D like an owlbear even if druids can't usually shift into them.

[@azpont7275]

Owlbeat isn’t a beast but a monstrosity. I get that it’s an iconic monster, but god damn, there are also a shit ton of cool besties in the Monster Manuals

[@kayleighkostrzewa8146]

Concentration and damage were less concrete and I liked that

[@Tor469]

Possible homebrew rule that allows you to repeatedly change shape while in wild shape, but only during the hour. Maybe a moon druid thing

[@georgem1874]

In past editions there have been ways for druids to be able to change shapes many times. Much like being able to wildshape into an owlbear was also possible.

[@stephenadams8712]

I checked the D&D beyond block for her it allows her to change into a owl bear and have 5 uses of wild shape if they just had 2 less forms it would have fit the stat block

[@simonkennedy6116]

It isn't just Rule of Cool, a min-maxer could load up on shapeshifting spells including into an owlbear

[@jackfrost3564]

I was waiting for someone to bring up that scene, I liked it a lot but I was waiting for someone in the audience to call it out, the biggest things that I feel like I would have enjoyed seeing (maybe in a potential series or sequel since they've talked about them) would be to have Dorick and Edgin be spellcasters like their classes in the game are, I appreciate it. The focus on the druids wild shape, but I also really would have liked to see her cast some spells alongside Simon, I also feel like they were pushing Edgin as a bard really hard in all of the promotional material, but after watching the movie, he feels a lot more like a rogue, specifically a mastermind after his multiple rants about how much he plans things out, and the fact that he didn't cast any spells or do anything that seemed very similar to bardic inspiration.

[@bisexualantigone]

You're right tbh! I love your blouse, it's gorgeous

[@BlondieHound1]

My Gf pointed out that there is a homebrew rule about burning spell slots for wild shape. I've heard I before but I think at the time our druid didn't really need it for me to dive into the way it works.

[@Herenoeviltattoos]

Polymorph is a spell as well that would have a similar if not the same effect that she could have used in conjunction woth her wildshape

[@robotmilkman1840]

In one of my games I allowed a player playing as a moon druid to change into a new animal by expendind a spell slot. Their current shape's HP carried over to the new shape (unless the base HP of the new shape was lower), but they could still use combat wild shape HP recovery. They just wanted to be able to shape into animals a lot and didn't care about casting spells.

[@LolaMilly27]

i never played a druid and after the DND movie I actually sis a one short playing a druid and loved it so much!

[@minasunuki2295]

Sofia had cast two concentration spell at the same time. Which breaks the dnd rules. Bigbys hand and Resilient Sphere

[@demago3265]

This scene made me want to homebrew Wild Shape: instead of 2 per rest, which last for half your druid level in hours, you get to wild shape a number of total hours equal to your druid level. So, it's the same duration, but you have more flexibility, allowing you to turn into 7 forms within a short time frame

[@olli3318]

thank you! i find it soo weird that ppl call out inaccuracies in movies when you wouldn’t want to watch a movie that’s only accurate

[@alyssaxrad]

100% agree with what you said! It was way more fun and entertaining to watch her change through all that, and the badass Owlbear!

[@KilleRoy_NL]

Unrelated but geez, Ginny, you look amazing in this video! 🙏🏻 Also yeah I feel like breaking/bending the rules was bound to happen, I feel like it was meant to demonstrate the versatility of the class/ability without crossing over to other classes' skills/magic

[@brianlawson3757]

That was probably my favorite bit, because I can see a table of players doing that in a game. The portly, overweight red dragon was fun, too. Like how many heads of cattle did he eat to get that big?

[@hostiledodo1150]

The movie was the ultimate demonstration of the famous "Rule of Cool"

[@knightx605]

Which is why I honestly would want to change wildshape rules to where you have at max 8 slots or so. But the kicker is that each slot is worth 1/4th cr. If you want higher CR, then you have to do more slots spent. If you are moon druid, you get more slots. Total number by normal druid rules would be to CR 1 Twice. (Forgot if base druids go to two or not)