The D Tier Warframe That Will Break the Meta

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Moug

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@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Amazing how this is also incredibly easy to acquire since Xoris is a quest weapon. You can have this set up and ready from extremely low MR and it is extremely powerful. One thing I forgot is that on his 2 you will use either cold energy for high level or heat energy for base steel path and team buffing. Overall its a small detail but very useful. Imporant: For people saying Chroma is not doing anything here and its Xoris dealing the damage I made a shorts video comparing Vex armor with Eclipse and Roar: kzbin.infoS3sfiyRVaQU What are your thoughts on this Chroma build? Will you try this out?
@daedora1021
@daedora1021 4 ай бұрын
I don't get how it's multiplicative and would like a detailed explainatio, also I think they only need to rework his one and make his 4 work like a primer and cost less and that's it also make his passive increased parkour velocity or something
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
@@daedora1021 There is nothing to make detailed here.. it seems non intended interaction but its been like this for a very long time. Glaive explosions just get multiplied by vex armor. Nothing else to it. But yes I do agree he needs some kind of movement ability and a bit of a twist to his visuals. Rn activating vex armor has 0 visual on chroma himself and you could easily add something like dragon scales to his skin or something cool when its maxxed to indicate that instead of seeing a stat on your screen
@khirek5335
@khirek5335 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I've been one of the "base dmg bad you need to exploit all multipliers" mf but ever since I learned about the multiplicative gun CO spreadsheet I've been playing a lot more chroma. I will still be honest and say that at base steel path he doesn't perform a lot better than a few other frames who are more fun to play. But fr put respect on his name
@cathy_fur
@cathy_fur 4 ай бұрын
I like chroma bcs lobster tail on his deluxe skin... Also am i the only one who like his passive? :c i always try to jump 3 times when i play other frame lol
@thenightingale7405
@thenightingale7405 4 ай бұрын
Good video. I typically don't mess with disruption but it looks like the next update will have a lot of disruption so I am getting ready for it.
@NovaUmbral
@NovaUmbral 4 ай бұрын
Been with Chroma since Sanctuary, been with Chroma since Arcanes 1.0, been with Chroma since Eidolons & Lanka/Plasmor, been with him through shrines nerf, through the old profit taker meta, something about this frame I just can't let go, despite all the signs saying so.
@lucfal5978
@lucfal5978 4 ай бұрын
The Goat understands me. There’s just something about him that makes me keep coming back and doing something crazy with him.
@ceaxyt4933
@ceaxyt4933 4 ай бұрын
ChromaUmbral.
@innocentwolff3688
@innocentwolff3688 4 ай бұрын
Me too brother
@indra5179
@indra5179 2 ай бұрын
Freaking Godzilla/Dovahkiin frame
@PrimeRicci
@PrimeRicci 20 күн бұрын
I love your chroma toxin build its so cool
@Glamador
@Glamador 4 ай бұрын
The last guy (I didn't recognize him) in the clip collection of D-tier reviews said basically exactly what you said. You admitted that his 1 and 4 are garbage and that guy is completely accurate in saying the Chroma has no identity. He's the walking stat stick and he's boring, design-wise. Now, Brozime is known for his...rather forcefully-worded hot takes, but he regularly puts frames like Octavia, who he describes as "annoying" or "boring" to play "but powerful", in high tiers. So yeah, if power is all you need to put Chroma in a high tier then, sure, he's there. But when there are _so, so many_ other frames that can give you level-cap damage, why would you pick Chroma? I do have a habit of only taking certain frames to certain content. Ash only goes to Disruption, Chroma only goes to Profit Taker, Titania is only for low-level exterminate, etc. But I look at that as "Oh boy, I have an opportunity to use this frame today!" not as a "this is the only thing this frame is good at". There are just...so many frames now.
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Nova Umbral. Based Warframe youtuber And exactly as you said a lot of warframes can nowadays deal with a lot of type of missions. Some will always be the best but you can really choose almost anything for any mission
@RobertoCorsini
@RobertoCorsini 4 ай бұрын
A lot of KZbinrs judge frames 'power' on their performance in endurance runs.. which I bet most players don't even do. Personally I like health tanking and there aren't that many frames that can properly do that.. chill wise. So while some consider them boring to play, which I don't, I love playing Chroma and Inaros... may not health tank super high levels with every frame, but I don't play endurance so... :P
@ghostly_ninja76
@ghostly_ninja76 4 ай бұрын
inside that video he mentioned that he wold be ranking the warframes by there overall feel of the game and how they work in every situation along with design so that's why and since not many of his abilities go well with each other and for that he had said that Chroma was D tier@@WispGraxx
@myka113_
@myka113_ 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't call him powerful if there are so many other frames that do what he does but more comfortably.
@SheinelI
@SheinelI 3 ай бұрын
Just pick Gyre everywhere she's the best
@GunterBunterWarframe
@GunterBunterWarframe 4 ай бұрын
People who say vex armor is bad just repeat "base dmg bonus is bad" without thinking about how much of a bonus it is, and I'm glad you are talking about it
@bloopletank2491
@bloopletank2491 4 ай бұрын
It's not just that but they don't like that you need to take health damage for it. Assuming you're only running merciless, it's a 60% multiplicative bonus. I'd prefer to just have a subsumed roar, because it double dips on procs.
@sapsx726
@sapsx726 4 ай бұрын
I thought so too until with Khora I found myself a chroma in the team and I did 26m of proc slash. it's not much but mine was a farm build 0.o
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
@@bloopletank2491 The thing is this is only true if your gun has additive CO. With multiplicative CO from galvanized aptitude your damage can easily skyrocket
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
@@DeadCow04 With Xoris Vex armor is a 1500% eclipse buff that also gives damage reduction and its consistent
@bloopletank2491
@bloopletank2491 4 ай бұрын
@@WispGraxx i never even mentioned CO.
@Chyguy
@Chyguy 4 ай бұрын
Even with this in mind, I still think Chroma's 1 and 4 need some love
@ERBanmech
@ERBanmech 18 күн бұрын
Have spectral scream empower elemental ward’s damage when you are wielding melee weapons and have it fire homing status projectiles when using a ranged weapon and have vex armor apply to its damage. With effigy I would love to see it transformed into a sentry that follows you instead, mimicking your spectral scream and elemental ward maybe even if you swap your damage type while it’s active your elements combine into a combo element.
@RexRagerunner
@RexRagerunner 11 күн бұрын
They said they prefer leaving in one weak or fun ability in so you can use helminth and swap them with another ability for most frames. So I'd say 1 is good enough for that, just 4 needs some love thats all.
@MrHollowIchigo01
@MrHollowIchigo01 4 ай бұрын
Great video! I made Chroma long time ago, but i never played with him that much, now i gonna try him, thanks for the builds :)
@BirdsRprettyKool
@BirdsRprettyKool 4 ай бұрын
Glad to see your channel growing man keep going ❤
@teampepeja
@teampepeja 4 ай бұрын
Good vid! Never knew about credit stuff about him, used chroma as dps for the hunt A LOT. Also had party-buffer-ish build before even prime released, yet i was going as support, usually ended up dealing most dmg. After several years break i returned with cross-save, had that mr2 "wtf is going on in this game" feeling, slapped nourish on chroma and went doing same thing at sp and archon hunt, where my other old builds suck ass. Still works, still amazing dmg output, ppl just not used to it and like you said don't bothered to try. Tnx for xoris build, gonna try it myself now. Also agreed about rework, just a bit variety for his 1st and 4th so we can press them sometimes.
@wildbear2472
@wildbear2472 4 ай бұрын
You're the man, dropping these nuggets of juicy frame info on us hungry tenno
@i.p.s.v7991
@i.p.s.v7991 4 ай бұрын
this makes so much sense, i was runing a steel path survival with the xoris(barely invested) with 2 chroma randoms and every time i hit for like 2 mil when i got the vex armour buff and it made no sense to me. it was the first i also used a glaive explosion mechanic (returning player btw)
@peddypeoples941
@peddypeoples941 4 ай бұрын
There is also some funky interaction with glaives and octavias amp, the xoris and falcor are very good on her.
@lucfal5978
@lucfal5978 4 ай бұрын
Congrats on the six figures for the primary video!! Definitely deserved you’re putting out great content! The fury/glaive multiplicative buff is weird. I’m fairly certain it’s a function of a multiplier being added to heavy attacks which would seem intended but could be that it wasn’t intended to do that with Fury since Fury wasn’t always an additive bonus. Power Throw stacks also multiply his damage buff which becomes really funny really quick. We’ll see if that interaction sticks around. At least multiplicative gun CO will still work well with him, especially so if you’re willing to use primed bane mods. I decided not to go narrow minded with mine to become a squad buffer of sorts, his ability to bullet jump twice actually gives him some really decent mobility options to stick to teammates and traverse annoying maps. The build I’ve had most luck on Duviri level cap is my creeping terrify build. Don’t need an excessive amount of strength if they’re stripped, can help with shield gating and cc at the same time if the team is getting overwhelmed. Ever since his armor calculation was changed to be additive as well I’ve never been able to do solo level cap with health tanking again so i switched to a more balanced build with good success. Still, I’m not the type to call a frame really good because of specific synergies. Completing most game modes easily isn’t really a feat to me considering every frame in the game can do that since weapons are so good right now even without weapon buffers. Does he have strong combos? Sure, but you take away your ability of choice for loadout and the cracks start to show. Vex armor is still a nerfed version of what it used to be with the reasoning behind the nerf being something everyone can do with Madurai now, elemental ward has too many limitations for anything other than the minor stat buffs being useful, and we already know his first and 4th are just awful. He’s ranked lower than other frames not cause he can’t be strong, but because he requires full investment to do things other frames can just do. His kit is simply outdated and lacking. With that said, I think Warframe KZbinrs go overboard with their rankings. The balance in this game is way too close to really have a D tier. Frames should be ranked from S+ to B at the minimum.
@nelumkumarasinghe2461
@nelumkumarasinghe2461 4 ай бұрын
The miter/latron incarnon mode scales multiplicatively with dmg so it does crazy dmg with this setup ty for opening my eyes to this strat.
@kielajellopecjo2153
@kielajellopecjo2153 3 ай бұрын
How can you save if the scaling is multiplicative or not?
@nightmaresenpai7930
@nightmaresenpai7930 4 ай бұрын
I'd personally love to see Chroma get a rework on his 4th to be more like a Sevagoth 4, but instead he turns into an actual dragon with a different move set. It might seem like too much, but I don't think it's out of DEs reach. Grendel changes size in his 3, so bigger model shouldn't be a problem and it can have a limited movement like no bullet jumps.
@myramedchan4775
@myramedchan4775 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like atlases rumbler transformation (its an augment for his 4)(it's aweful...)
@kurisu1204
@kurisu1204 4 ай бұрын
That's called Voruna
@indra5179
@indra5179 2 ай бұрын
Making his 4th like Aatrox ult from LoL or letting him change into eastern kind of dragon with modified skills during ult duration
@fancy2064
@fancy2064 4 ай бұрын
I also wanted to say i really like the intro music, it feels like Chroma has returned to claim his place or something like that 😂. Good edit.
@yzermanrice7802
@yzermanrice7802 4 ай бұрын
I love xoris, defo the best quest weapon imo. Ill try this out glaives are soo fun thanks for the build dood
@ecbrd8478
@ecbrd8478 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see a video explaining your circuit limbo build and what you do for each gamemode
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Its the next video
@ecbrd8478
@ecbrd8478 4 ай бұрын
Glad to hear
@qchan577
@qchan577 4 ай бұрын
I still remember back when i first started warframe back in 2015, Chroma was the newest frame on the block and got him when i didn't even have 4 warframe slots lol. He made my early games so much fun and enjoyable with his elements. Chroma just has a special place in my heart ❤️
@asarandor1352
@asarandor1352 3 ай бұрын
Chroma was my first prime way bag and never is still one of my least played frame thats gona change now😂 amazing vid man
@arisenprestige5717
@arisenprestige5717 4 ай бұрын
I will absolutely try this! I’m also very interested in seeing your limbo build! I love seeing your anti meta content, learning new ways to play the game is very fun to me. Thank you!❤
@SewerRat1
@SewerRat1 4 ай бұрын
i loved the intro, nice work
@khirek5335
@khirek5335 4 ай бұрын
fr
@nulls5408
@nulls5408 4 ай бұрын
As a limbo main, generally regarded as a “c tier” frame due to only seen by metaslaves as the troll time stop cc frame despite him having way more potential than that, (don’t even get me started with the eximus misconception lmao) I understand the frustration. And respect that you at least acknowledge the circuit usability. Most content creators are just too scared to go against the stigma, and just repeat the same bs ad infintium for views. It’s nice to have some creators that actually have some passion and balls to state something. To continue what I’ve said in other videos, what I generally run as a companion is my immortal djinn/verglas disruption slayer meme build. That twin kohmak build you suggested works as a pretty good heat inheritance. Making it so my sentinel and its shadow clones can kill steel path enemies by themselves, with me just needing to pick up 1 energy orb to immediately revive them if they ever go down. And they constantly make energy orbs on kill, especially when the pet reworks first dropped. Good for people who don’t like dealing with kavat/kuhbrow ai.
@v1k37
@v1k37 4 ай бұрын
dystopia did level cap video with chroma + glaive, explanation: some weird interaction which leads to eclipse like behaviour on glaives.
@TurtleBleach689
@TurtleBleach689 4 ай бұрын
Vex armor not only acts like a multiplier on glaives, it also double dips.
@SlyRocko
@SlyRocko 4 ай бұрын
I love using him whenever I need him, and he literally cannot die in PT when I use Arcane Grace on him. However, he has fairly outdated design with abilities that feel kinda wonky to use. It's a similar issue to Inaros, except chroma at least has the power of Vex Armor. If he were to get reworked, I would imagine it something like this: Spectral Scream: Reworked to be an elemental ball of energy that shoots out and lasts for a certain duration. Explodes and applies certain debuffs onto enemies depending on chroma's elemental alignment. (Electricity shield strips, Cold armor strips, Toxin applies a dmg vulnerability, Heat life steals). This allows his base kit to get the health regen that he so desperately needs to justify his tankiness especially in longer mission runs. The other effects also exemplify his jack of all trades aspect that he would want to be embracing. Elemental Ward: It is strange that they allowed him to change elements dynamically with his 1, and yet you still can't have multiple wards. I would imagine UI wise that you can track the duration of each ward similar to Titania's Tribute buffs. Other than this substantial buff, it is still a solid ability so I doubt it needs much more changing. Vex Armor: The only necessary thing it needs is some kind of consistent ramping in solo play. It could just be as simple as an augment that acts as a mini Combat Discipline Effigy: It could just be as simple as copying the usage of all of Chroma's other base kit abilities. Letting the effigy have its own elemental ward and vex armor would greatly help extend buff range while also not needing the chroma to stick around it
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
I think effigy just needs to go straight up
@RamboBuddy
@RamboBuddy 2 ай бұрын
oh shit you dropped lorn... this video just went next level
@thelastgekko
@thelastgekko 4 ай бұрын
I enjoy your videos daily
@koodwin5875
@koodwin5875 11 күн бұрын
i think it'd be quite cool if his 4 made him grow wings and fly like jade/hildryn/titania, and it'd be cool to see 1 changed into a spammable ability that hits in front of him (maybe in a cone, extending width scaling with range like how oberon's grass does), and perhaps it applies the status matching his energy type to enemies hit... it'd certainly add a fresh coat of paint while still keeping the good stuff
@user-mj4ph9bv7s
@user-mj4ph9bv7s 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this! I never understand how ppl say chroma is bad, i have a nourish build myself for base steel path, and a pillage build for endurance. Chroma is easily one of the best beginner friendly frames in warframe, high survivability in base star chart, and incredible dmg numbers.
@alcxander
@alcxander 4 ай бұрын
I have no idea what's happening but I took this for a spin and I am CRUSHING high level content much harder than usual. my melee influence is not triggering the same way but the damage is nuts. the tankiness is incredible too. i just stood still in steel path conjunction survival for 30+ seconds of straight wailing on me and I didn't go down at all
@ThomasForlin
@ThomasForlin 4 ай бұрын
So love the video! Fun fact: Chroma's 1 is affected by the Vex Armor damage buff :).
@BlariWF
@BlariWF 4 ай бұрын
I use pillage for the stripping and cleansing and noticed i was running into energy issues so i began using dethcube and energy generator with duplex bond and helstrum and now i get tons of energy
@wongtszho2226
@wongtszho2226 4 ай бұрын
I watch aznvasionplays for wacky builds and mr warframeguy for meme builds, they gave me motivation to forma non-meta frames
@akarshjv6999
@akarshjv6999 4 ай бұрын
Yo drop that limbo circuit build please
@ElSmartTV
@ElSmartTV 4 ай бұрын
Chroma is my 2nd most played frame, i'll try the cheaper version of this build since i dont have that many resources, i'll be back and tell my experience After 3 weeks i farmerd a lot and started using the first build shown, its just amazin how much damage you deal while not worrying about your energy, i already enjoyed playing choroma but this combo makes him go to the next level
@SwampHydro
@SwampHydro 18 күн бұрын
yk, ive loved chrome from the moment i got his prime. the revelation of the vex armor xoris interaction will probably make me go fucking apeshit tmrw when i try it. thx for the great video
@Jamlex
@Jamlex 4 ай бұрын
gwens soundtrack in the first part goes crazy
@lizc473
@lizc473 Ай бұрын
Honestly for a rework I would like to see effigy and spectral scream merged into one ability where you sprout your wings and start flying and your able to shoot the standard effigy projectiles or you can breathe a aoe fire beam that does all 4 statuses but doesn’t merge them and then replace his 1 with some sort of movement ability
@anubhabdas2118
@anubhabdas2118 3 ай бұрын
I’m a relatively new player and trying to decide on my next investment. I have completed whispers. I really like your staltha gameplay and am trying to decide between chroma and wisp. I do love the xoris though. I was kinda gonna go for wisp as it seems to be good for all types of content. What do you think? Is chroma as versatile then dps glaive seems like the way!
@ERBanmech
@ERBanmech 18 күн бұрын
I mean, I face tank archons with him since his damage and defense scaling absolutely helps against them. Overall he’s a great weapons platform, I’ve even seen an awesome guardian armor energy tank build that I think is so cool. Also with the changes allowing vex armor to gain power based on melee or ranged kills it really helps his kit flow better.
@CheweyRocco
@CheweyRocco 4 ай бұрын
also give this man 5k subs he truely deserves it
@joejoemojo
@joejoemojo 4 ай бұрын
integer limit moment
@azimuth3d211
@azimuth3d211 4 ай бұрын
@WispGraxx cool video and fashion. I know the wings and helmet are from the zunlong skin, but what about the red like effects on the arms chest and waist? I'm not sure where that's from
@janovmi2
@janovmi2 4 ай бұрын
limbo is amazing as long as you understand how to play him, when to bubble etc, amazing for any stationary objectives, the only problem are when people from the outside don understand the shifts and what they need to do
@CheweyRocco
@CheweyRocco 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love these videos, I hate playing the “meta” I don’t want to play Torid every day, ty
@thelastgekko
@thelastgekko 4 ай бұрын
Even when you do play meta, someone still thinks you aren't doing enough. I've learned to ignore the elitist people immediately. They don't play the game for the same reason
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Lovely Kavatten pfp
@CheweyRocco
@CheweyRocco 4 ай бұрын
@@Bigiron16 less meta than alot of other things
@the_mashman2145
@the_mashman2145 4 ай бұрын
this frame just tlikes to die as soon as you spawn in the mission
@grev3471
@grev3471 4 ай бұрын
Could you please give me an explanation on lvl cap circuit limbo? He was my favorite frame when starting out, but now I just cannot find a reason to use him :/
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
A lot of people requested so I will make my next video about him
@CalvinCasts
@CalvinCasts 4 ай бұрын
Can always trust Moug to give a chance to the underdog frames!
@ferrissmith3517
@ferrissmith3517 4 ай бұрын
Finally a video from someone who gets it! Big streams and videos hate Chroma but I’ve seen their builds. I’d hate Chroma too if I built him like they do.
@IluvDubstep777
@IluvDubstep777 3 ай бұрын
I’ve rewatched a couple times now, which emissive do you use for which buff?
@nativenight
@nativenight 4 ай бұрын
Here is a rework idea: His 1 becomes an energy ball that explodes on contact (range, ability str). Still retains the elemental swapping but an enemy that is hit by the toxin version gets a toxin proc, then you switch to heat and when it gets hit by the heat version the enemy gets both a heat proc and a gas proc and refreshing the status duration. Maybe you could rearrange the elemental damage order so you can get your preferred elemental combos faster and easier. Change his 4 to launch a 1 that is the next element in your wheel while it is out. So if you are on toxin and heat is your next on rotation your effigy launches a heat ball where you are aiming directly after you launch your toxin ball there for a toxin, heat and gas proc.
@albertocaruso2112
@albertocaruso2112 4 ай бұрын
can you do a video talking in detail about that circuit limbo?
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Ye a lot of people requested. He is next video for sure
@facundoimbaud2958
@facundoimbaud2958 4 ай бұрын
I have the same build but with combat discipline and arcane avenger instead of molt augmented, so you do more dmg, build dmg vex armor without needing of taking damage just killing, so arcane avenger and grace are active forever ( and aoe viral procs of nourish but with negative range isnt that significative)
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Ye as i said nourish i only use for energy regen
@howardyoo4070
@howardyoo4070 3 ай бұрын
His new augment is like icing on the cake(well, more like icing on vex armor). Infinite vex armor duration, insane health regen on kill(comparable or even greater than wisps mote), free up the aura mod slot and damage reduction for your team.
@unlucky1307
@unlucky1307 4 ай бұрын
With what DE recently attempted to do to mirage when the community said make eclipse a toggle, I'm scared to let them touch the dragon. I would rather keep his 2 and 3 good and useful to a decent extent than risk him being gutted.
@memedreampotato3380
@memedreampotato3380 4 ай бұрын
The mirage eclipse nerfs are being put in place due to her melee Weapions like glaives gun-blades and anyweapon with augmented aoe+projectiles is a bit broken on mirage as all 4 of her clones deal the manage instead of just 2 like with guns This leads to certain melees getting a little silly ie Arca triton, this hammer on its own with a sub optimal build can already reach 2+ million eletric damage on its heavy slams doing this 5 times in a single hit without combo just because you have mirage clones active, imagine what you could do with eclipse Imagine all the melees that have a large sudden burst aoe damage Doing that five times + eclipse dps at all times with no downside would be a bit silly
@unlucky1307
@unlucky1307 4 ай бұрын
@@memedreampotato3380 They reverted the nerfs to Mirage herself and only nerfed the helminth version. You also have to keep in mind with Mirage that her clones deal REDUCED damage and only get the eclipse buff if Mirage has the eclipse augment on. Since she's had the ability to do things like get a heat proc, go to certain tilesets, etc. to always have the max damage buff for years, I don't think the reliability will cause issues. That being said, I do think the severely nerfed helminth version is just going to become worthless, as 30% damage buff and only applying to your weapon's damage and not status procs, warframe abilities, etc. will mean roar is objectively better for damage. And the 75% damage reduction cap is just too low for most frames to actually benefit when they get to the level that they would want DR and they'll prefer Nova's subsume for up to 90% since that's a 60% further damage reduction than eclipse will be.
@joeybobbson2622
@joeybobbson2622 4 ай бұрын
I'm having a hard time learning with that fashion taking 99% of my attention
@KongUltra
@KongUltra 4 ай бұрын
Ig I need to look back at him
@yetanotherrandomyoutubecha4382
@yetanotherrandomyoutubecha4382 4 ай бұрын
Chroma has always been a top tier health tank and weapons platform. I just think he doesn't really stand out much since his 3 is kinda inconvenient to use (have to remove base damage mods for best performance, has to charge up by taking health and shield damage, has to be recast before it runs out to maintain buffs) and you can get similar results on most other frames by putting Eclipse on them. I also think a melee influence / Xoris nerf might be on the way, so enjoy it while it lasts
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
imma be honest, I dont think it will happen. Also I completely agree with vex armor but for glaive weapons specifically no frame comes close to the damage chroma deals with a glaive (maybe saryn roar cause her 3 deals double damage for melee weapons)
@bushhawk5460
@bushhawk5460 2 ай бұрын
I fondly remember oneshotting Orphix during Operation Scarlet Spear with Chroma and a Zaw.
@swegnop7531
@swegnop7531 3 ай бұрын
I love your videos man but like direct that prove the point that he’s bad if like to make him viable or any other frame really viable if you gotta helminth him yk?
@fireraid9173
@fireraid9173 12 күн бұрын
His fire ward needs to have both health and armor scaling with his vex being reverted to its previous multiplicative values before his nerf. His ice should give overguard, lightning is good where it is for shield focus, and toxin should just be a general additive damage buff to guns to work with his vex. This alone would make him have different playstyle options based on preference, content, and team composition. His 1 and 4 need complete overhauls, as his 4 is detrimental to his survival and 1 does nothing but change his element, with fire breath doing *some* damage to unarmored enemies, but your gun obviously would be far more efficient.
@bnashtay2278
@bnashtay2278 4 ай бұрын
If DE reworks his 1, 4, and Toxin ward and I’ll try him. Rn he’s just sitting there since I built his prime already, but he doesn’t interest me at all. I can basically do what Chroma does but with Mirage. Not to the same extent, but she’s fun and she puts a lot of colors on the screen. Also she’s going to be far more consistent with Dante’s 🥳. Hopefully Chroma gets some love soon cuz he actually looks cool. Sucks that I decided not to get the Lunar New Year skin…
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely Agree. I think so many people would play him if the useless part of his kit was reworked to at least be fun. Thats why I am suggesting a movement ability and a new passive for the very least
@teasingsafe351
@teasingsafe351 14 күн бұрын
i did everything you did in the video but still i wouldn't even hit a million dmg. impossible reach dmg cap.... can anybody help me out?
@prichmok
@prichmok 4 ай бұрын
My eyes have opened
@dik4316
@dik4316 29 күн бұрын
I like his passive a lot. Feels like I'm crippled without it.
@CheweyRocco
@CheweyRocco 4 ай бұрын
i got a question, what weapons get multiplied with vex armour? and what does CO mean?
@phlixcarbon
@phlixcarbon 4 ай бұрын
Condition Overload but thats just a guess
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
There is a pastebin showing you what weapons are multiplied by the galvanized status mods that work exactly like condition overload. The community dubbed this feature gunCO Here is the link to that (Not Mine): docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ryemX4Y2vWy9LjuJ355bWVNuBhzLaHTTFqPeTNto9RA/edit#gid=221509335
@CheweyRocco
@CheweyRocco 4 ай бұрын
@@WispGraxx so guns with multiplicitve effects are better? and with this chroma build, are weapons that dont get mulitplied by vex armour good?
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
​@@CheweyRoccoweapons that dont write "multiplies" on this list are way weaker when paired with chroma than the ones that do. However chroma can still buff them. Just not to any ridiculous amount
@dhuum4758
@dhuum4758 3 ай бұрын
i love chroma, he was my first prime and now reading the new patch gets me hyped: "Vex Armor can charge its damage buff by getting ranged kills and its armor buff by getting melee or ability kills."
@risingwind8943
@risingwind8943 26 күн бұрын
(See unified Codex for Chroma energy tank build. INSANE sentinel companion build.) I am currently running Chroma with Incarnon dread (With cd cc riven for 225 crit, 11x damage) and a gas damage setup. I helminthed nourish onto chroma and am running arcane battery and arcane grace. I am running the sacrificial mods for health and armor, adaptation, guardian armor, and power strength mods. I have 3 power strength and 2 energy pickup shards on him. I am running negative power efficiency because of arcane battery and nourish. He is basically unkillable by anything below level 200 steel path. I sat in front of 20 LVL185 corrupted heavy gunner steel path eximus units and they COULD NOT kill me with my buffs up.
@MageSkeleton
@MageSkeleton 4 ай бұрын
if i'm using Nourish, and i have the ability to, i'm using Energy Nexus. i like the idea of using Combat Discipline as the aura. Prob use the Furis instead of Compressa. Depends on my experience with that.
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Go crazy, Try out stuff. The main thing I am showing is the Xoris interaction
@FlipsMG
@FlipsMG 10 күн бұрын
I copied this exact build on both chroma (including the umbral forma + archon shards) and the xoris, and I'm only hitting 1-20m on average, nowhere close to the same. Was this nerfed?
@deuterium2718
@deuterium2718 3 ай бұрын
angels descend in a heavenly choir and speak but a few words; "nataruk galvanized aptitude longbow sharpshot"
@jacobwilkins727
@jacobwilkins727 4 ай бұрын
Maybe they could make his 1 a movement ability that you could charge up and have a dragon wings visual on his back and his 4 a dragons breath like attack applying status based on your color. Also be able to move during his 4 and making it a channel I think would freshen up his kit at least a little bit
@jacobwilkins727
@jacobwilkins727 4 ай бұрын
Or shit even go the sevagoth route and make him change forms with his 4 having a melee claw attack, the status dragons breath, his 3 giving him more damage or survivability, and either have a charge attack with your claws or the movement ability
@TheFinisher24
@TheFinisher24 3 ай бұрын
As a Chroma Main I use a polearm Zaw with Plague Kripath and Plague Bokwin, When I use my Vex Armor, comparing it to my Glaive the Zaw shows practically the exact same results, the only difference being it's more able to do consistent Red Crits. Does Vex Armor also become multiplicative on Zaws with Exodia Contagion like Glaives? I genuinely need to know because it practically does the same thing to Zaws and not just glaives.
@SG-qi5jg
@SG-qi5jg Ай бұрын
I got a stahlta riven with status chance, multishot and damage... do you think it'sn worth using? or is it terrible, and if its worth what should i replace with it?
@HelliosXIII13
@HelliosXIII13 3 ай бұрын
Chroma is getting buffed :"D
@DuckyUmbra
@DuckyUmbra 4 ай бұрын
Found the next top WF creator
@tekdaystar345
@tekdaystar345 3 ай бұрын
What are your opinions on the upcoming Chroma changes?
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 3 ай бұрын
I will just say the prediction of this vid is 100% correct (title)
@jaydixit7112
@jaydixit7112 4 ай бұрын
Damn, I was once a meta-slave. As a new player I used to go to the Codex and Universe and look at all the fancy Warframes and Primes that are out there for me to farm. And every time..... Every single time, I used to look at Chroma Prime and think that he is THE coolest looking Warframe. But I had watched many videos and tier lists by then which had oriented my thinking to treat Chroma like a sub par Warframe. This video changed that. Chroma is not a bad warframe at all! The video is proof enough. You know quite an interesting thing though, personally I feel like Chroma and Valkyr are in a similar position. Both are insanely strong and tanky( Valkyr just straight up becomes invulnerable), but a literal half of their kit is bad or very niche( straight up bad in Valkyr's case since Effigy is at least useful in Profit Taker). Guess it's time to drop some plat and get me a share of that Dragon blood
@nbassasin8092
@nbassasin8092 4 ай бұрын
Effigy is still bad, just has 1 niche effect that it does, if valkyrs 3 or 1 gave you double arcanes from eidolons it would still be bad, just not never used just because they gave the ablity a neat side effect does not make the ability good, as you never use his 4 for the actual 4 itself Chroma needs a rework, because if half of your kit doesnt work, and theother half is just okay, you do need a rework
@just_kind2639
@just_kind2639 4 ай бұрын
Hi. Can you drop that limbo circuit build please
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Ye I will make a video about him next a lot of people requested him
@sarkanyvince9303
@sarkanyvince9303 26 күн бұрын
great vid
@brythgard5938
@brythgard5938 4 ай бұрын
I found a home. I found chroma so cool when i first got him, but eventually got underwhelmed by him due to pther frames. Now ideas i have for him is incorporate the orowyrms from Duviri into him thematically cause thats the closest to dragons we have as enemies, and an augment that pilfers specifically for credits cause dragons need their horde.
@pmpkin0002
@pmpkin0002 4 ай бұрын
Will give this a shot. Really excited because I do enjoy the idea of using chroma for level cap content
@imzadux
@imzadux 3 ай бұрын
Siento que un rework que se le podría dar a Chroma para que sea más divertido seria lo siguiente: Habilidad 1: Dejarla únicamente para cambiar los elementos, digo simplemente esto porque sumado a las otras habilidades podría llegar a estar roto. Habilidad 2: Que funcione tal como es ahora Habilidad 3: Seguiría funcionando de la misma forma, pero el principal cambio estaría en que en lugar de tener que mantenerte cerca de tus compañeros para darle los buffs simplemente se mantengan hasta que termine la habilidad (Como lo hace la de Rhino) Habilidad 4: Remplazarla por una especie de “Modo Dragon” parecido a las cuartas habilidades de Voruna y Valkyr, solo que usando la e pueda atacar normal (melee) y usando el de disparo principal lance su aliento. // English (Translate) I feel that a rework that could be given to Chroma to make it more fun would be the following: Skill 1: Leave it only to change the elements, I simply say this because added to the other skills it could end up being broken. Skill 2: That works as it is now Skill 3: It would still work in the same way, but the main change would be that instead of having to stay close to your companions to give them the buffs, they would simply stay until the skill ends (Like Rhino's does) Skill 4: Replace it with a kind of “Dragon Mode” similar to the fourth skills of Voruna and Valkyr, only using the e he can attack normally (melee) and using the main shot he releases his breath.
@supahs5249
@supahs5249 4 ай бұрын
Were you using fire chroma in this btw? I wonder y over ice
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
I was using fire chroma yes, for team wide buff and base steel path face tanking it feels way better, cold will have more value in extremely high level missions
@supahs5249
@supahs5249 4 ай бұрын
Blessed be lord an savior moug.
@adrienceretti9627
@adrienceretti9627 4 ай бұрын
Love to see my chroma get some love. On the staltha build why do you use Internal Bleeding and not hunter munition? you have more crit than status and impact is pretty low on primary fire,t and not existant on aoe, it only has force impact on altfire direct hit.
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
You answered your own question
@adrienceretti9627
@adrienceretti9627 4 ай бұрын
@@WispGraxxIthought only a 5% diff wouldnt justify having it not affect other firemods.but i guess the it take the firerate of the secondary fire into account and benefits from the x2
@XVEthanVX
@XVEthanVX 4 ай бұрын
I would like to see your limbo setup
@D00melf
@D00melf 4 ай бұрын
Vex armor having multiplicative scaling with certain weapons isn't breaking the game. Chroma is useful in profit taker. Everywhere else is just a frame you can use to have fun with big damage numbers. He's looked down upon, because that's all he's good for. Most frames, especially meta ones, outperform him in versatility, better kits, don't need extra steps to deal damage like waiting to stack vex armor from enemies or by using combat discipline, etc. He's one of the frames all the way at the bottom for good reasons, and needs a rework.
@Mijkami
@Mijkami 4 ай бұрын
Exactly, the conditions and extra loops make his gameplay clunky for most people and the actual gain can already be achieved with something else in a similar manner anyway and less hassle to boot. Being able to do things after a few extra loops is common to everything in warframe honestly and doesn't prove much (if anything, the neat interaction with glaives makes him even more specialized / one-dimensional somehow). Chroma seriously needs more love and QoL in his kit, even Pablo the godfather of reworks recognized it.
@robbebertier1730
@robbebertier1730 4 ай бұрын
Can anyone explain what multiplicative CO is?
@TheWarDong
@TheWarDong 4 ай бұрын
I've missed Chroma so much. I have so much time on him, that even after years of not playing him, HE IS STILL MY MOST USED FRAME. My only question is, why does your health bar never move? What part of the build did I miss that prevents that?
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Arcane grace and a lot of armor xd
@K.Dębski
@K.Dębski 3 ай бұрын
hi what whould you chane in build after last update?
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 3 ай бұрын
nothing
@chucktownattack
@chucktownattack 2 ай бұрын
What are some other Multiplicative CO guns?
@anubhabdas2118
@anubhabdas2118 3 ай бұрын
Would this work on regular chroma or you need prime?
@diegoalfonsin7316
@diegoalfonsin7316 Ай бұрын
People who play meta is boring, play what you like, play for fun, easy as that. Each warframe can do level cap with the right setting, some can do it easier than others but also most of the people that plays never do level cap. Great video, in this or next week I´ll get Chroma Prime, it will be fun!
@imadudeplayingadudedisguis5842
@imadudeplayingadudedisguis5842 4 ай бұрын
I kinda like your statement on Limbo being good for Circuit. Not every frame needs to be S-tier in all scenarios. Limbo is great in mobile defence (incase you somehow struggle in it). Chroma is great for PT, but only because of credit multiplier. Volt is really great for quickly powering through missions. Chroma needs a small rework to change the conditionals, or some way to deliberately deal self-damage in groups. Yes, combat discipline exists, but a whole aura mod to make your ability work is bad design, similar to Covenant which is nearly impossible to stack in groups. Chroma is an elemental dragon, maybe make it so proccing heat/cold/electricity/toxin status gives a small boost to vex armor. His 1 can be a simple toggle between elements to boost your weapon elements. Or give an aura around him that procs the status every x amount of time. That would make it synergize with the idea for his vex armor as well then
@Spacecowboyable
@Spacecowboyable 4 ай бұрын
I tried this exact build on netracells alone but im ever ever without energy ...what can I do?
@WispGraxx
@WispGraxx 4 ай бұрын
Cast nourish at the very start and use zenurik.. gg
@Garmr2000
@Garmr2000 4 ай бұрын
@@Spacecowboyable xoris does electricity on heavy attacks. so no need to mod for electricity.
@Linkachu8709
@Linkachu8709 4 ай бұрын
the funny thing about warframe that people keep forgetting is about 80-90% of the gear you get CAN BE MADE VIABLE FOR ANYTHING. with enough patience and time invested you can make any frame stoopid OP in some degree or form. escape the meta and just go nuts
@number1loser410
@number1loser410 4 ай бұрын
That's a good looking croma I love you for this one..... people say a lot of things
@Spacecowboyable
@Spacecowboyable 4 ай бұрын
Either sir Daniel fortesque has a chroma warframe at a certain point in Medievil
@fancy2064
@fancy2064 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much man for giving Chroma the recognition he needs. I main Chroma and while he is very good in general he is an absolute menace when you give him any glaive, and in squads i deal regularly 90% of the damage to show how stonrg and underrated he is. You're one of the rare person talking about it, thanks.
@mlad35
@mlad35 3 ай бұрын
4:14 its the best as long as you use glaives and weapons with multiplicative gunco.
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