The Dangers Of Bad Beatmaking Advice

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[@krapciu]

that snare conclusion killed me lol

[@KRISTIJAN63]

that's why it's so important to remake beats you like. this is the fastest way to understand why the producer did the things he did in this beat and why he did something different in another beat

[@NavieD]

Great point. It's a good way to learn the 'why'

[@stitchfacegotthesauce]

I just remake them in my head

[@meyerdamagician]

for real, even watching some remakes may help you to see the techniques with more detail

[@oleg_samples]

Great advice Navie. I also think making more and more beats is a good tip... improving skills and confidence 😎👍🏼

[@NavieD]

Yep! Although, if you're making the same kind of beat over and over, I do think that may actually harm your progress

[@SamFocused]

Thank you for sharing your experience so honestly. This video will help many upcomin Producers to better Preparing and stop wasting money on the wrong people 💯💯💯

[@NavieD]

And I want to say that for some, I'M the wrong person too.

[@prodjoon-rf2mb]

You and “Digging the Greats” are killing it rn. A COLLAB WOULD B LEGENDARY

[@dihec1373]

ABSOLUTLY! My two favorite chanels at the time

[@sharpevisionmedia4114]

As always, another GEM from Navie. Thank you again bro. This knowledge is amazing.

[@BeeSquared]

I remember during Covid I decided that I wanted to learn everything I could about making great music. As many have said before, "It's all about mixing and mastering" was all I heard online; and how you need to be taught by professionals because the "secret tricks" are only taught in courses and hidden from beginners and other producers. "You can't learn this skill from KZbin tutorials alone". I found myself on a call with a representative of a well-known mixing-related channel on KZbin who's course promised to show me everything I needed to learn about making your music "Radio Ready". The price I was quoted was for $5,000. Like Navie, I was serious about this choice and decided to take the deal. What was in that course was all the same information you've seen online. The same ways to use EQ. The same ways to use compressors. The same ways of using Reverb, Delay, and everything else under the sun. What WASN'T in the course, was what I TRULY needed to learn: sound selection, production, layering, and arrangement. As a mix engineer for 3 years now, I can say with 110% certainty that mixing is NOT the answer to making great music. What IS the answer is developing your ear for sound selection, arrangement, and songwriting. If you use great sounds that are full and impactful, arrange those sounds to fit well together and not clash too much, and volume balance those sound even just somewhat well to tell a story, you have a fantastic song. Producers are the MOST IMPORTANT gog in the wheel. I don't care how many egotistical engineers try to say otherwise. I am one of those engineers, and I know that we are all at the mercy of talented producers and beatmakers to give us the clay to mold cohesive songs together. If you are reading this right now, and you want to make great music, please listen to this message: - You CAN make great music in your bedroom, by yourself. - You CAN learn everything you need to learn from tutorials on KZbin. It may take some time, but not the "years" like most people say it will. - Don't let ANYONE tell you it's the analog gear A shitty kick drum is still gonna sound shitty even if it's run through every piece of hardware on the planet. And don't let ANYONE tell you that, "The song comes together in the master". I saw an add for that channel awhile ago where the new owner turned on his "Hardware Pultec EQ's" and the song magically came together in the master. It wasn't the hardware EQ and the mastering that suddenly made the track sound huge, full, and fantastic... it was the 10db of gain you added to the signal. To finish off this rant, I want to leave you with a final message. At the end of the day, if you are having fun making music, enjoying the process, and learning something new every day... the sky is the limit for you. Your taste will match your skill level in time. And until that gap between taste and skill is closed, don't let imperfection stop you from releasing your music right now. Your music doesn't need to be perfect to be released to the world. Even without the bells and whistles that come with time, your fans will still say "It's their song". Have fun, and good luck.

[@LilAngL]

I agree with most of this. Throughout my time making music I have learnt that everything is tied together. An artist is nothing without the initial idea to a song. The artist is nothing without a producer and a producer is nothing without the artist. I stopped using and paying for beats because I have found that it is not about using someone's beat and slapping the key to the beat on autotune. The artist and the producer compliment each other, so going blind in to a beat on KZbin is why people then break their heads in mixing. But going back to the artist and the producer dilemma, an artist needs the producer to make great music. To be able to change things around throughout the composition. Autotune won't figure out the melody for you, but if you figure out the melody yourself in conjunction with the artist, it will be easier to make things sound musical. If something doesn't sound right, then something has to change during the writing phase and beat production. This is why it is not easy to just get on a beat posted on KZbin because you can't really make changes post what is done the way it is done ( Unless you reach out to the producer). The song should already sound great by the time you get to mixing it.

[@d-1beats]

From the start of the video i knew you was asking the wrong people for help cuz as you explained engineers are not musicians or producers. Fortunately i figured out what was wrong with my own beats to determine that i needed to learn music theory and the nuances of sampling and specific subgenres of rap, tempos and sound selections etc Much respect to Navie for your tutorials I'm sure many young producers are helped with your work and business. I wish i had guidance back in the day to avoid some of my mistakes lol

[@SmokingEveryDayProd.]

Thank you so much, all your videos are so helpful and interesting for unknown producers like me, love your videos and your beats. Much love from Spain.

[@NavieD]

Much love to you too my friend

[@GodisKing1177]

Navie this is some good advice man, when I first started watching you and some others I would be super judgemental in what I listened too, I thought"why would I try to learn from people who's music I don't want to make" and because of this I didn't even try to learn some fundamentals and such.

[@PRECIOUSTATIC]

Absolutely true points bro 👍

[@NavieD]

Thank you for watching boss

[@keejay12]

"I put too much reverb on my snare" -- Navie D Bruh 😐

[@NavieD]

Big fail on my part. BTW I hope you submit for the upcoming beat exercise sir

[@keejay12]

@@NavieD oh I will. I gotta check it out. I'm on my music tip right now. I need to get back more involved

[@keejay12]

@@NavieD I be so busy but I'm trying to manage my time better

[@WordGunner]

As allways, very helpfull to learn , what NOT works ❤ ✌️

[@blakasmurf]

Over the years I realised no one can mix YOUR beat quite like YOU can! The mix class wasn't a waste... Just not on point like you'd want it to be. I learned alot hanging out with Rock and Dance music mixers

[@awezometomm]

I love your videos, it’s helped improve my beats so much!!! 👌 Here for every upload.

[@NavieD]

People like you make this worth it!

[@radiobe4179]

I used to think that I *needed* a midi controller in order to make good beats. Then I bought one and discovered that my beats sucked because of inexperience and lack of knowledge. Now I make most of my stuff using the mouse

[@VirsaTyleBeats]

Thank you for sharing your story fam. You’ve helped my beatmaking journey immensely and it’s inspiring hearing how you succeeded. Hope I get to where you are one day 🤙🏾

[@fernvill27]

I know this is a different era where mostly everything's done on the internet, but the best way to learn is to put yourself in the same room with other musicians and beat makers. I had that luxury in 2005 when I went to engineering school in Miami. I just connected with other musicians, saw their techniques and tried to apply it to my own music. I made beats with other beat makers as well. I learned a lot from them. The point is, just making beats might get you better at the technical aspect of beat making, but there's an aura to a great beat. It's hard to explain, but when it all comes together the way you want, you'll know it.

[@stereothrilla8374]

Audio engineer and producer with over three decades of experience. The advice I give to all young aspiring producer/engineers is teach yourself and/or have a very credible mentor who won’t charge you. I constantly turn down money to teach simply because I don’t need the money or have the time. I have taken on two apprentices in the past 16 years, one of which went on to do way bigger stuff than me. In that 16 years I never charged either of them a dime. I do however share publishing on a couple licenses with these individuals which is always split 50/50 as to keep it fair and keep both of us hungry.

[@felipeparra6115]

I missed you on KZbin, great video as always🤠

[@smketweedsdailysmketweed1612]

Man, you got hustled! We live and we learn.

[@DThompson55]

I love you man. Great story telling.

[@NavieD]

I love you too D

[@ILOVEMEMUCHO]

Always keeping it real Navie . 🌟

[@DrBigFMC]

A fascinating story full of twists and turns. I'm sure there was more to it than just too much reverb on the snares though. 😂 We live and learn.

[@NavieD]

There definitely was, but that was a huge key that solved a lot of problems for me at the time. It's actually pretty wild how some small tweaks can make a huge difference

[@bmbpets4861]

I know there’s a million out there, but I really wish you would start a podcast lol I love hearing your stories. Good video bro!

[@timyi1888]

I had to say if you make a series of video telling us your opinion of your early beat and try to remake or change some elements must be fun to watch and useful, hope you will consider it!!!

[@iamdjgwiz]

You don’t know what you don’t know… I definitely have stories like this. Very good video man. Your content just keeps getting better and better. We really appreciate the vulnerability 👌🏽

[@enginomusic4395]

Thank you for Sir for this informations you are giving out here

[@NavieD]

Thank you! And nice shirt in that pic

[@robertgordonii5325]

Preciate you and your videos my man! #thewhy

[@MamboGimbobili]

Hi Navie, I really thought this was 100% gonna be a funnel to get people to subscribe to your beatmaking class. Much respect for telling us that your class might not be the solution either, kudos

[@zblumenfeld]

Good stuff Navie! Thanks!

[@sagcap7927]

Perfect explanation. When I moved into making music with software only. I learned to choose the right instruments and honestly, try to stay away from compression. Lol. I say that with care. Lol

[@bhargavpadaliya]

sir ❤️

[@keefazstudio]

I'd rather invest in developing music style and sounds selection than mixing

[@NavieD]

As a producer, I think this is gonna be the best use of your time

[@hi-fiproductions9505]

Good video. Honestly, I think the cable stuff was possibly good advice IMO. Maybe not what you specifically want to hear in introduction, but it is important to have in there. Especially for mixing and Audio in general. If they had explained why it is important, the common ground loop issues you might face with hardware and solutions to that, I think it's not filler. It can help prevent issues or time wasted knowing these things. Unwanted noise coming out of the speaker and badly managed cable runs aren't ideal. That is an issue that is just in the basics of setup and if that's not right then how are we supposed to build on top of it. No shortcuts, is a faster mentality to have for your growth. In this skill/art, just being diligent and patient in how and where you receive information is crucial . We all tend to look things up online, or scurry to find quick fixes instead of reading the manual/digital pdf for the tools we buy and putting in the time to get skilled with it.

[@williampatton7476]

Music can be the ultimate maze especially beat making when people are working often in solitude. I mean Avicii basically went crazy over it. And it's actually a very serious issue I reckon. I know alot of people who have really played themselves because of a lack of clear sequences to take with music production in the 21st century. I think it's a weird one between needing formal methodologies and like knowing that that can also kill creativity. But definitely there is a right way of doing some things like fitting a sample to the tempo which it's good when your channel provides like the actual correct way. But yeah knowing when to read the manual and when to just get in there is a tough one sometimes. But yeah mixing is kind of the last thing I would recommend beat makers focus on initially. Getying dope sounds and sonic impact is the most important thing imo. Mixing is just an equation.

[@n0ldin]

I like the way you are teaching us like a little bit of humour and show tips

[@SclimBeats]

I know that you can atchive great sounding mix with plugins, but since i bought some outboard gear like analog heat, sp404, some compressor and eq and runnning audio trought it bring some character to the sound and fullnes and its fun twiking knobs feels like im in touch with my music. I think evryone needs to find hes why and how

[@3rdARKnight]

Navi 🤟🏾🔥🔥🔥

[@NavieD]

🙏🙏🙏

[@mikedrummin6461]

Great Video. Thank you for sharing this

[@matthiaspahle]

For me to improve me skills ist realy to learn music theory and became a engenier to see both worlds and use Feedback in both worlds beatmaker and engeniers.

[@wurlbfree1981]

No lies told. Multiple times back then i had the same issue i dont mix and i couldn't even with reference track get the engineers on my wavelength hence now that i make beats again im starting to learn how to mix myself

[@williampatton7476]

Ru tracker and pirate bay is a good money saver. Often I've ended up buying the plugins I stole too. But tbh I don't feel bad because anything for music.

[@knowEgo]

Most of your favorite producers have Zero training in music or Music Theory! Which in the case of Hip Hop is a positive thing because you create off instinct and feel & not structure and templates. I also feel we as listeners we have this placebo effect when it comes to hearing popular producers tracks. We tend to overrate the beat based off of who produced it and what artist is performing to it. One very important tip to improving your beat making is to strictly listen to the instrumental of some of your favorite hip hop beats…the instrumental will provide the raw ingredients you need to cook up your own beats. You’ll learn how to stack drums….how to separate bass lines, volume, tempo etc. you’ll also discover how simplistic most hip hop beats are when you remove the vocals! Remember the beauty of hip hop is you make the rules…RZA has acknowledged that a lot of his early production was flawed according to music standards…clips, pops, distortion, levels etc. but that didn’t hurt his legacy at all…in fact it helped!!

[@r2beat2taylor35]

Navie d more like naive d lol

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

I feel a little let down there was no sales pitch at the end for a course.

[@NavieD]

Hahah I am sorry for letting you down

[@WilliamAshleyOnline]

​@@NavieD Its all good, I ended up reading the video description and found the click through video that linked to the course, I just had to watch another video or two downline.. it was a hook ending. You are redeemed. ::)

[@nicholasrosella2952]

Incredible video

[@NavieD]

Thank you sir!

[@accsmart8695]

The thousands of dollars are relatable. However, I can deduct those losses on the next 5 years resulting in more profits. I hope this is the case in most countries

[@kittydubstep]

great video :D

[@jbmusic4095]

vid is great as always Navie, but a fucking audio engineer that asks 2500$, gets told 'i want my beat to sound like this' and doesnt notice that the ultra reverbeered snare was not like the reference track, is mindboggingly dumb of him

[@Mr.TeETH78]

Can we get a DJ Muggs breakdown? He put Al on!

[@smketweedsdailysmketweed1612]

The second story is funny. Honestly woulda been out soon as I was up in that crack house and homie starts talkin bout hiring assassins 😅

[@tontonder8271]

Être soi c'est çe qui est le plus dure..on veut toujours ressembler a tel ou tel personnes mais on est toujours meilleur quand on est soi même.....

[@JohanNærby-t2y]

Is this a re-upload? I feel like I already watched this one..?

[@nikitasavcenko3666]

tHX^ Comment for you

[@GodSpeed1105]

Navie D can you tell us in all your wisdom, How can I work with Drake on his next whole Album? Thanks!

[@superkamigurualucardmckee6181]

Hey don't beat yourself up man! If you were willing to customize a certain sample into a beat for me I'd buy a beat off you, and use it :p you def got skills for sure man! I just got a unique style I have in mind with what I'd want for instance I love old Jazz stride pieces, and I'd want to incorporate that into my beats.

[@realABofficial]

Bro took 8 minutes and 11 seconds to say just do you 💯 Awesome video

[@NavieD]

Hahah sorry for talking so much

[@realABofficial]

@@NavieD Nah nah get those midrolls g!😆

[@IrokSteady]

Naive, what are the best 5 beats you have made? Do you have a video on them?

[@realdiole]

Only now that I am making beats that I actually like I think mixing will improve them, how? By making certain sounds loud enough and sound decent enough on other devices(or speakers) like cellphones now that I am posting them online. But still, the production part is still > 90% of what I focus on and want to be better and better at. But ask most new beatmakers, they cry tears out about their lack of mixing and mastering skills, lol. I try to comment everytime I find someone falling for the mixing and mastering mythology.

[@NavieD]

Yeah, I think as you get more experienced, then focusing on the secondary skills can be valuable. But for new beatmakers like you mentioned, mixing and mastering won't be as helpful to learn (especially if they're trying to learn beatmaking at the same time)

[@TY.R3D]

everytime i go on to the fl studio keyboard and put notes down it only applies on the shaprs? help

[@do1dashbeats900]

Man, this was some great advice to me

[@bewusstsein7061]

♥♥♥

[@Gainsforlife]

tbf that sounds like the normal path for a beat maker or any producer using digital software. Just be glad you aren't like my homie who went to a non accredited school in hollywood and put himself into tens of thousandths of dollars in debt only to graduate and make mid level beats that anyone can learn from youtube in the same time frame. The school in question is called Icon collective lol

[@Jens9807]

Heyy, I've heard this story before...

[@BlakeSuperior_Beats]

Didn’t you do this same video recently?

[@bestkoreanjesus]

To make a video BWB can't copy

[@amdi8966]

Nav, you’re a real 1

[@itsalientune]

Streams doesn’t actually mean you’re music good you can have the most streams with the s#itiest music it’s how you market and promote your music

[@sandmanlopez9920]

You lost everything 😦💅

[@WordGunner]

Yo Navie, ... these Bots are around here. Someone want's to connect people on telegram in your name! , take notice of that! 👍✌️ #PEACE

[@Rachturne]

You don't know what you don't know!!

[@Tatkovi-px7mx]

The hard thing is to find someone to give you tips on the same DAW as you for example good or not I use MPC BEATS and you use FL studio so its the same but its not

[@Linck192]

I came here thinking this video was about poker ._.

[@Benxito808]

The goat of producing community

[@RaoufBeats]

Great video Navie! On the topic of mixing and mastering, it's important to know "how much" of it you need. For example in my work (which is releasing my own beats on streaming platforms) I'm the only person that starts and finishes the project, so I'm the only person that's responsible for the mixing and mastering of my work. Because of that, I take it very seriously and it has helped me a lot in my releases, however, if you're someone that sends beats to artists or labels, mixing and mastering won't be as important, because there is most likely an engineer that will take care of it. So I guess this relates to point number 3, which is asking your question from the right people. Because if that person doesn't understand your line of work, the advice may do more harm than good. Hope my comment helps :)

[@NavieD]

Raouf! I just remembered I gotta email you!

[@RaoufBeats]

@@NavieD I replied to your email just now :)

[@barrytheartist.]

Naive I love the down to earth video

[@jrobbin24]

Instead of spending all that money all you had to do was just post a few of your beats online and all the haters will be honest about what the beats problems are

[@jrobbin24]

By pretending you don’t see a problem with your beat and that you think it’s great everybody will be looking for flaws it’s just how people are in unsolicited advice is the only advice people seem to be able to give

[@zeninvites3209]

lool i do this sometimes when i need information. i ask my questions in a different way so i can learn more @@jrobbin24

[@LuKa-dd1di]

hey, I am fan and I appreciate how you honistly speak about your mistakes, it takes currage to do it. IDEA FOR NEXT VIDEO: beats before and after mixing and mastering I make some beats for fun, but they don't sound very profesional, so now I dont know how good can raw beat be. I know you used to be pro producer, could you show some of your songs before and after they were mixed and mastered.

[@johnluis899]

Hey I respect you as a beat maker, your one of the bestWatch Producers

[@johnluis899]

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