The Dark Secrets Behind the Wizard of Oz | Morbid | Podcast

This episode is a fan favorite that was originally published as Episode 281…
For this Holiday week, we wanted to bring you a lighter (?) episode, although it’s really not so light at all! Alaina’s kids have gotten super into the Wizard of Oz and so she decided to do dive into the dark happenings during filming. All kinds of atrocities went down and we are pretty confident that you’ll never watch this movie the same! Sorry…. we mean you’re welcome!
References:
-www.amazon.com/Making-Wizard-..." target="_blank"
-The Making of the Wizard of Oz By Aljean Harmetz (Be wary that this book is fascinating but uses some outdated language when referencing certain people)

[@Predictamike]

Unfortunately most of the cut Scenes from this film were burned in the great MGM fires very little remains .most cut footage is in the first trailer .love your podcast ! keep it morbid girls !

[@kelliigou2]

This is the Morbid made for me.

[@LeelaRae84]

My stepmoms great Aunt was Margret Hamilton. She called her “Aunt Babs” and they were very close when she was little. You should check out her appearance on Sesame Street. It’s wonderful.

[@MithrilMagic]

I totally get the Tin Man thing. A few years ago, Jack White dressed up as the Tin Man for Halloween. There’s a clip online somewhere. So hot. I forgot about my Tin Man crush until I saw that clip and it all came rushing back to me 😂❤

[@biancasmith2374]

Starts at 14:50 !

[@victortamez7316]

Thank you lmfao didn't want to stay around for 15 minutes of loofahs

[@lisascorp]

I did know a lot of those behind the scenes stories. I remember my Mom telling me about them. However i didn't know they cut a lot of the wicked witch scenes and dialog. I can imagine the producers were right it would have been too terrifying for children. That wicked witch scared the living hell out of me when i was a child. I remember my Dad getting a kick out of how much she terrified me. Margaret Hamilton was born for that role. Some trivia you may not know. Margaret Hamilton was asked to reprise her witch role to be a guest on Sesame Street. She appeared in some scenes w the characters (probably early 70s Sesame Street) parents phoned and wrote into the show saying it was too scary and she scared their kids. Its the only episode of Sesame Street ever banned and didn't replay in the other markets it was supposed to. I was able to find a little footage of this banned Sesame Street ep on KZbin at one time when i first heard about this. The witch is my favorite part. Id love to see the cut scenes.

[@MaskedMan66]

They only cut a few lines, but no whole scenes.

[@lisascorp]

@MaskedMan66 That's what the documentary said but you are probably right. The director said it would just be too terrifying for kids That witch scared me to death as a kid

[@MaskedMan66]

@@lisascorp If you mean this video, it got a lot of things wrong. Victor Fleming probably had no say in what stayed in or was taken out; that was between the studio and producer Mervyn LeRoy.

[@lisascorp]

@MaskedMan66 actually I believe it was the podcast Morbid that did a whole hour on this.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@lisascorp Probably rehashing all the same old lies and half-truths.

[@cassieperez2240]

Completely agree with you on the tin man!! Can't explain it... I'm from the 90's!!

[@KimberleyB]

WELL, I was in love with Speed Racer when I was in kindergarten in the early 70s. I was totally going to marry him. 😂 So I get The Tin Man!

[@victoryak86]

Wow there’s a reference I can identify with. It’s still ingrained in my head, “here he comes, here comes Speed Racer, he’s a demon on wheels…” it was that and one other cartoon from Japan I’m forgetting atm. At the time who knew it was Japanese early Manga (?). I think..

[@CowboyAndKen]

The contract explains the agressive apathy regarding his iron lung....

[@MaskedMan66]

There was no iron lung.

[@jaeturner6600]

Thanksgiving?!! It’s Christmas

[@xxstephylizxx]

I was thinking that too! 😂

[@Gamerman_115]

Clearly you weren't there when the movie first came out cuz that's wasn't a bird and it's not edit u probably watch the remaster version of it where they took it out

[@MaskedMan66]

There are no dark secrets. Everything that went on-- that *really* went on, as opposed to all the lies and exaggerations-- is public knowledge. I'm not even going to watch this overlong production because I'm sure there's nothing at all new in it. I'll just run over some points. Judy Garland was not abused, bullied, overworked, drugged, starved, hated, beaten, raped, or anything of that nature. Everyone loved her, and while she didn't like wearing her corset, she never complained about it, seeing that it would have been petty compared to what her co-stars had to deal with. That said: Ray Bolger's costume contained not one fiber of asbestos; it was just cotton and felt and normal fabrics. His make-up left indentations on his face that faded in a few weeks, not the permanent scars that some people will talk about. Buddy Ebsen's reaction to the aluminum powder his make-up was dusted with was not an allergic one; he had a congenital bronchial condition-- and he recovered. Jack Haley found his make-up and suit uncomfortable, but used his experience as fodder for funny lines on his Sunday night radio show. He did get a drop of make-up in his eye, causing an infection, but that cleared up after four days. Bert Lahr's costume, made from the store-bought pelts of two lions, was padded and about 70 pounds; he said it was like acting in a mattress. But it had slats in it that could be opened during breaks-- which were frequent-- for ventilation. Margaret Hamilton got burned, but unlike her self-appointed crusaders, she got over it. Likewise, Betty Danko got over her injuries, which were not the worst she ever got in her stunt career. The Munchkins were ordinary people, not unprincipled, subhuman animals. They and Judy Garland got along famously. They were each paid $100.00 a week except for Mickey Carroll, who, thanks to Zeppo Marx, got $500.00 a week. The snow was gypsum, not asbestos. The two horses who played the Horse of a Different Color were covered with a mixture of make-up and vegetable dye-- not gelatin. Terry, who played Toto, was not paid, her trainer Carl Spitz was. He made $125.00 a week. For the rest of the story, check out the books "The Making of The Wizard of Oz" (1977) by Aljean Harmetz with an introduction by Margaret Hamilton, "The Wizard of Oz: The Official 50th Anniversary Pictorial History" (1989) by John Fricke, Jay Scarfone, and William Stillman with an introduction by Jack Haley, Jr., and "The Road to Oz: The Evolution, Creation, and Legacy of a Motion Picture Masterpiece" (2019) by Scarfone and Stillman. Other books which contain useful bits of information include ”Down the Yellow Brick Road” (1976) by Doug McClelland, “The Oz Scrapbook" (1977) by David L. Greene and Dick Martin, and "The World of Oz" (1985) by Allen Eyles.

[@abuzara5693]

Too much off-topic talks