The Dark Side of Muhammad Ali

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Zach Lee

4 жыл бұрын

Previous Ali Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJ3cfYuqfKuDaK8
There’s a pretty well known saying that goes.. It’s probably best if you never meet your heroes. Never meeting your heroes.. To most people, meeting the person who they idolize, who they look up to, and sometimes even aspire to be like.. Would be a dream come true. Afterall, the image of the person they look up to, in their mind, is that of a hero. An image of someone who is just, righteous, prosperous.. Someone who is trustworthy, loyal, kind.. Someone who is.. perfect.
Which is why some choose to lash out in anger, as if they themselves have been insulted when any form of negative light is shined on the person who they look up to. Accepting the dark side, the side that might not be as pure as the one they have come to idolize, would break their perception of what it means to be successful, what it means to be a winner.. Or most simply put.. What it means to be happy. Since most of the time, that is the image we are fed.. That our idols, celebrities, whatever you want to call them.. Due to all that they have, and all that they have achieved.. are happy.
However, if you ever have the opportunity to meet the person who you hold so dear, and really get to know them.. You’ll discover the disappointing reality that they, just like you, and everyone else.. Are only human.. And have all of the same burdens, and afflictions that are attached to that reality.
You’ll discover that they’re not perfect.
And this applies to everybody. Even some of the most revered and idolized personalities of all time, whose virtues on the outside appear to be as pure as that of a newborn child, have a sinister darkness that is twined deeply into their human nature. A nature that is born of both good, and evil. Light, and darkness. A duality of nature in which denying yourself of one, is denying yourself overall.
For light cannot exist without the darkness, nor can darkness exist without the light. And it’s for that reason, that today we’re going to be taking a look at a person whose light lit up the world.. Spanning across the nations.. But for just as many people as his light shined brightly.. So did he too cast a shadow of pure darkness that reached equally as far as his light. A darkness that reveals a side to his legacy that tells a much different story than that of his luminance. Yet, despite the difference.. is just as vital of a side to understand in order to grasp the full story of the man by the name of Muhammad Ali.. aka the man who is known to many, as the Greatest, of All Time.

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@SlamDunkComedy
@SlamDunkComedy 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole." - Malcolm X
@ratedpending
@ratedpending 4 жыл бұрын
fax
@jamaalcarter2883
@jamaalcarter2883 4 жыл бұрын
Strong message brother i been following u for like 3 to 4 years now
@avert.ingratitude
@avert.ingratitude 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting quote for you to use in a video where you spewed numerous lies.
@adamsayed5245
@adamsayed5245 4 жыл бұрын
When is the next vid
@the1theyhunt425
@the1theyhunt425 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this video but the title is misleading. I understand story buuld up but this video was more about Malcom rather Ali.
@matepavic6929
@matepavic6929 3 жыл бұрын
Ali said that 2 of his only regrets in life are being unnecessarily mean towards Joe Frazier and not standing besides Malcolm X once he left Nation of Islam.
@Hakanozdemiruk
@Hakanozdemiruk 2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly right. But you know humans are like red wine, get better with age. I know more today than yesterday but not as much as tomorrow. I think we can all relate to this
@ritchski1
@ritchski1 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a direct quote of him saying that. I’m not saying it’s not true, I’ve just not seen him actually say it.
@matepavic6929
@matepavic6929 2 жыл бұрын
@@ritchski1 Because he didn't say it in any speech, he said it in his book.
@cmanrob4492
@cmanrob4492 2 жыл бұрын
@@ritchski1 when it comes to this subject people just make up quotes that can't be found or verified.
@breadlee5951
@breadlee5951 2 жыл бұрын
@@ritchski1 he did say it. He said it in the 80s almost 20yrs after Malcolm died but I'm sure he really felt that way right after Malcolm died. When some1 dies that your close to at any point in life you will live with some regret some way even if yall were on good terms
@malikshabazz7596
@malikshabazz7596 2 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali, l wish I'd been able to tell Malcolm I was sorry, that he was right about so many things. But he was killed before I got the chance.” Malcolm X was a great thinker and an even greater friend,” wrote Ali. “I might never have become a Muslim if it hadn’t been for Malcolm. If I could go back and do it all over again, I would never have turned my back on him.”
@jandro8370
@jandro8370 2 жыл бұрын
Source?
@chilout2496
@chilout2496 2 жыл бұрын
@@jandro8370 buy the book
@jandro8370
@jandro8370 2 жыл бұрын
@@chilout2496 thats my question. Name of the book?
@AlionteHakeem
@AlionteHakeem 2 жыл бұрын
@@jandro8370 I think his autobiography
@fe8445
@fe8445 2 жыл бұрын
Ali finally left NOI and accepted orthodox Islam as Malcolm had done. There is no dark side. Judgement errors happen and Ali corrected himself. May Allah enter both of them in paradise.
@billphilips8522
@billphilips8522 2 жыл бұрын
yes there is a dark side. he treated his women like they were property, dictating to them what they should wear and how they should look. ( that might be considered a good thing by you allah types.). he slept around and was unfaithful and even had sex with under aged girls /( statuatory rape ). then he didn't even help in any financial way his illegitimate children. he was a piece of shit.
@yousef-eq8zw
@yousef-eq8zw 2 жыл бұрын
Ameen
@francisjtuk
@francisjtuk 2 жыл бұрын
I met him and I'm glad I did. Yup there's probably a darker or hidden side to all of us but when I met him he was everything I expected and more.
@niropaxum958
@niropaxum958 2 жыл бұрын
Well he was in an literal cult, Tom Cruise is verry friendly in real life.
@johnnysmithington3749
@johnnysmithington3749 2 жыл бұрын
@@niropaxum958 he left the cult
@niropaxum958
@niropaxum958 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnysmithington3749 Yea but that is not what the modern people remeber him for, he had basically a mix of conservative and supremacisst beliefs. Its kinda ironic that he is so beloved on the left. After he left the cult, ha was basically a black conservative, a leader that would have benefited the black community greatly, but he was killed not too long after that.
@ShadyLife101
@ShadyLife101 4 жыл бұрын
Keep doing videos like this please. It's a new niche for you that will progress even further than your daily basketball format of the past.
@2ZZGE100
@2ZZGE100 2 жыл бұрын
Very few people in this world have been as articulate, intelligent, sharp and charismatic as Malcom X. Having seen lots of his tapes especially in his post-nation times, watching him talk is like being spellbound.
@NabilAbdulrashidComedy
@NabilAbdulrashidComedy 2 жыл бұрын
Had he stood with Malcolm they would’ve killed him too
@xryezv
@xryezv 2 жыл бұрын
Dat nigga was gay
@smoothcriminal4038
@smoothcriminal4038 2 жыл бұрын
@@xryezv So is your dad and you don't hear us judging you for it.🤣🤣
@xryezv
@xryezv 2 жыл бұрын
@@smoothcriminal4038you’re projecting lil buddy
@smoothcriminal4038
@smoothcriminal4038 2 жыл бұрын
@@xryezv Spot on about you buddy 🤣
@ureasmith3049
@ureasmith3049 2 жыл бұрын
Ali mellowed with age. He started out as an angry black separatist, due to the racial hatred of his time. He then became more popular and loved amongst the general population and that affected him.
@charlesdavis113
@charlesdavis113 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but you got it wrong too...Ali didn't Start'Off as an Angry Black Separatist as you describe....Ali Started off as a Young'Black Olympian, Representing His/This Place called America... Came Home and Realized Being'Black in a White'Supremist System meant Nothing....Then the Same System decided to Try to Take Him Down...for not Agreeing to Go'Defend the System...And the Reason White Society Tells a'Black'Man's Story the way You do,is because The'Truth Hurts....can You Feel This'Truth???
@ureasmith3049
@ureasmith3049 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesdavis113 I was talking about the beginning of "𝐌𝐮𝐡𝐚𝐦𝐦𝐞𝐝 𝐀𝐥𝐢" You're talking about Cassius Clay.
@jasonvoorhees5640
@jasonvoorhees5640 2 жыл бұрын
@@ureasmith3049 You are white, what would you know about black history?
@ureasmith3049
@ureasmith3049 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonvoorhees5640 Oh boo hoo!.....😢😫😫.....😆
@finished6267
@finished6267 2 жыл бұрын
It mirrors the young liberal gaining age and wisdom and becoming conservative.
@samuelmahmud1909
@samuelmahmud1909 2 жыл бұрын
Ali was a youngest and just like all of us in life we learn grow from our mistakes and experiences and we all have regrets no Darkside unless you stay in the dark!
@charlesdavis113
@charlesdavis113 2 жыл бұрын
Any one who uses words Like...The Dark side to grab your attention,you can just about figure the Darkest thing about that Person's video is The words that person used to Trick'You into viewing said video... I never subscribe to any of them... You shouldn't Either... it's the PLEASE'PLEASE LIKE'ME CREW AND I'M PLEASE to DIS-LIKE YOU!!!
@kevlar9173
@kevlar9173 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesdavis113 word up... dude got the thumbs down from me... they always gotta find a way to tear down our heroes somehow... i aint hearing it
@Cars69433
@Cars69433 4 күн бұрын
Exactly, ali did apologize
@braydenkameronstamps4348
@braydenkameronstamps4348 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought the daily NBA recpas would take me here but I have 0 complaints. Love what you're doing with the channel man, you're a great story teller and that really gets to shine now.
@KingBenny
@KingBenny 4 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see SDC talking about boxing but I'm here for it
@pana376
@pana376 4 жыл бұрын
He didn't say a thing about boxing and so eloquently talked about two black men whom are giants among men and made the giants only men
@pepmancity1887
@pepmancity1887 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining that religion and a nation is different
@pepmancity1887
@pepmancity1887 4 жыл бұрын
No man or woman would ever be a prophet again after prophet muhammad (on my religion)
@MisterTurner-ex1fv
@MisterTurner-ex1fv 4 жыл бұрын
@@pepmancity1887 This might be the last warning ⚠️ you get before you die ⚰ John 3:16For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
@pepmancity1887
@pepmancity1887 4 жыл бұрын
@@MisterTurner-ex1fv mate dont start it
@pepmancity1887
@pepmancity1887 4 жыл бұрын
@@MisterTurner-ex1fv but its okay cause its your belief
@punchclan7186
@punchclan7186 4 жыл бұрын
Pep Mancity 😂😂 mate don’t start it
@SOLZandSAGE
@SOLZandSAGE 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you still doing videos fam 🙏🏽 Stay safe my guy. Trynna get a Dish reunion episode 👀
@isaah4612
@isaah4612 4 жыл бұрын
HIIIII BSOLZ
@jefjef601
@jefjef601 4 жыл бұрын
hi
@ojcarre2432
@ojcarre2432 2 жыл бұрын
people SERIOUSLY overrate Ali's intellect
@hoaxbusterhodler9676
@hoaxbusterhodler9676 8 ай бұрын
Facts
@MrJreed1000
@MrJreed1000 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when sdc had the sport center look?... or qotd... or voting for player of the day ?😁good times ...
@shounakc509
@shounakc509 4 жыл бұрын
On one hand, it’s his decision of what he wants to do with his channel, but on the other hand, a lot of us really miss the old SDC. I know he had some problems with his schedule and all the pressure put onto him from his older videos, so I guess that’s why he decided to switch it up.
@shounakc509
@shounakc509 4 жыл бұрын
Sheryaar Khan Honestly not everyone likes his new vids better than his old vids. You’re probably not an OG fan cuz I remember coming back from school and tuning into this channel for the daily basketball news, and I know that I’m not the only one. Like he used to be OUR Sports Center, OUR ESPN, and that just used to hit different back then. Maybe you just like the quality of his new vids better, and that’s fine cuz everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but just knowing that we’ll never see the old SDC again just doesn’t sit right with me.
@bayoyong7102
@bayoyong7102 4 жыл бұрын
@@shounakc509 fax bruh when he slowed down on those videos, chris smooves daily game coverage isnt just enough
@andrewconley2924
@andrewconley2924 4 жыл бұрын
I miss the older videos too! I wish he could do em once or twice a week at least.
@cespinosa08
@cespinosa08 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man I miss those days I been following him from the beginning. Seeing a video everyday and always good content.
@RJ-ox3gi
@RJ-ox3gi 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a big fan of you dude. I love getting notifications saying you posted a video.
@SuperMastodon
@SuperMastodon 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing video especially with all the recent anti semitism stuff that's been floating around. As Charles Barkley said, athletes like him should not be seen as role models just because he dunks a basketball. All people are complex, we have our good and bad sides, even supposed "heroes" of the past.
@MisterTurner-ex1fv
@MisterTurner-ex1fv 4 жыл бұрын
😏 Yet, society promotes these celebrities through mass media to be worshipped as gods/goddesses by all of mankind ✅ Think 🤔 about it. These celebrities are even referred to as stars ✅ The angels in the Torah and the Bible were referred to as stars long before anybody from mankind was in the past ✅
@jaye501
@jaye501 2 жыл бұрын
Thats bull... Barkley is an a hole... His comment was a effort by him to change the narrative after yet another series of character flaws... Every man should attempt to be a role model... Barkley is just a very poor example of one...
@finished6267
@finished6267 2 жыл бұрын
Jewish people are not Semetic. They are not from Shem. Do some research. They are white European people's who adopted a religion and identity. It happened a long time ago but it happened. Stop it.
@rickymack9339
@rickymack9339 2 жыл бұрын
Of you take all of this as gospel- I have a bridge in NEW YORK I'd like to sell you.
@curiouslymavismade
@curiouslymavismade 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Ali and Malcolm. Your memory is engraved in my heart forever.
@22julip
@22julip 2 жыл бұрын
A race pump and a draft dodger . Many African Americans fought and died so they could cause a lot of hate in this country that gave them the opportunity in the first place maybe X repented but Clay never did he saved his ass to fight and be a rich man in the country he blamed for keeping him down .
@niropaxum958
@niropaxum958 2 жыл бұрын
Blue birds fly with Blue birds, Red birds fly with Red birds and segregation is cool.
@22julip
@22julip 2 жыл бұрын
@@niropaxum958 there’s only one good segregation . That’s heaven and hell !!! The only place where skin color doesn’t matter . Only the content of your character does . Booker T Washington said it long before MLK did . Should we celebrate the fact that our people grew up in a place closer to the sun , to give us this brown skin , ?? Think before we speak !!! Peace to all .
@deansharpe7499
@deansharpe7499 2 жыл бұрын
Then you will forever be full of hate.
@22julip
@22julip 2 жыл бұрын
@@deansharpe7499 love not hate ! The race pimps are the haters they decide people not unite them . It’s alright for millions of people through history to die for Ali’s freedom when it’s his turn he says no I’m making too much money , he will get his punishment.
@carsonalexander4967
@carsonalexander4967 4 жыл бұрын
Man your videos are so well put together they lock me in like movies keep doing what your doing you deserve more for how much hard work you put in i don’t know anything about making videos but I know hard work when I see it
@111Renegade111
@111Renegade111 4 жыл бұрын
It's been over a month bro... I'm still waiting for part 2.
@aspectsports7122
@aspectsports7122 3 жыл бұрын
Never arrived
@charlesdavis113
@charlesdavis113 2 жыл бұрын
You Still waiting? Your'Boy still Hating... Ain't No part2 Guess Your'Boy tricked Me & You Cancel the Creep is what I'm gonna do...
@WyattTwerpp
@WyattTwerpp 2 жыл бұрын
The Nation got 'em
@teasystableent
@teasystableent 4 жыл бұрын
Every person has a dark side... Even our GOATS
@statu5987
@statu5987 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s us remember that he’s a man too, that I just as sinful as all of us
@ezirulez4eva175
@ezirulez4eva175 3 жыл бұрын
@AtR fax
@EmmanuelMoralesPetti
@EmmanuelMoralesPetti 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I respect Ali for not being used by the American Empire, he was in a cult, a cult that Malcom X was able to leave, which is why Malcolm became an icon for racial justice, whilst Ali was constantly accused of being racist. Ali did eventually say that going against Malcolm was a huge regret, so he did change, at least.
@M1ntyyy_
@M1ntyyy_ 3 жыл бұрын
House Of Scare cult?
@EmmanuelMoralesPetti
@EmmanuelMoralesPetti 3 жыл бұрын
@@M1ntyyy_ yeah, the NOI was a cult.
@M1ntyyy_
@M1ntyyy_ 3 жыл бұрын
House Of Scare oh ok
@jamesjohnson8544
@jamesjohnson8544 3 жыл бұрын
@@EmmanuelMoralesPetti they definitely were until Elijah son took over and fixed it. Thankfully.
@ascendantking2178
@ascendantking2178 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is. When the nation of Islam was disbanded. Farakhan came to alis house to try to get him to help with bringing up the nation of Islam again. Ali kicked out farakhan from his house and never spoke to him again
@xHgameingx
@xHgameingx 4 жыл бұрын
i absolutely love these types of videos from you they are so packed with information and you are such a good story teller
@TheTrut416
@TheTrut416 2 жыл бұрын
Ali didn't like the fact Malcolm was dissing Elijah. A few years later Ali regretted it and wished he had saw the light sooner.
@NealBones
@NealBones 4 жыл бұрын
Dog mad props on doing you Zach. I'm glad to see how much the break helped your creativity and focus G!
@errosgalope488
@errosgalope488 4 жыл бұрын
more content like this please!! these topics are really interesting
@dontsp12me
@dontsp12me 4 жыл бұрын
Love from Hong Kong 🇭🇰 Support you from bottom of my heart🥰
@pulsarstargrave256
@pulsarstargrave256 2 жыл бұрын
There was no dark side, the times were dark!
@ljlawver
@ljlawver 2 жыл бұрын
Helluva lot of darkness abounds now as well.
@brendan9868
@brendan9868 4 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, really enjoying these mini documentaries
@ThatOldSchoolMagic
@ThatOldSchoolMagic 4 жыл бұрын
Must be pretty busy. Really wanting to see part 2 as this got very interesting.
@detective___mcnulty
@detective___mcnulty Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for part II, two years later.
@john.wick1
@john.wick1 2 жыл бұрын
The brighter the light being shown down upon someone, the darker the shadow cast from that person.
@carlostejada1479
@carlostejada1479 2 жыл бұрын
is not that simple... fake "good" ppl are the ones with big shadow... ppl with fake smiles (all the time), never are seen angry, never say a bad word, never show a "bad" emotion... those are the ones with a bigger shadow. that was not Ali. Ali could get angry, could talk sh*t about someone, his smile was not fake... He was pretty much authentic. that's why his light was so bright. just like John Lennon...
@john.wick1
@john.wick1 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlostejada1479 It is t hat simple; your perception is just that... your perception.
@carlostejada1479
@carlostejada1479 2 жыл бұрын
@@john.wick1 nope... your formula is the one that it's wrong. I suggest you to read Carl Jung, about the shadow. double face ppl are the ones with biggest shadow.
@john.wick1
@john.wick1 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlostejada1479 Formula? 🤣 GTFOH
@carlostejada1479
@carlostejada1479 2 жыл бұрын
@@john.wick1 yeap, your formula or whatever you said it's wrong. I already explain who has the larger shadow. but if it majes you happy to think you're right, go on
@zeebest1004
@zeebest1004 2 жыл бұрын
Elijah Muhammad was also a positive influence and respected leader among black people that didn’t belong to his organization. His organization, though hardly a first, was an example for black people to see what they could accomplish in legitimate society if they came together and tried. Though many knew of this already and were teaching that to their children, EM spoke not only to criminals and convicts but all blacks who truly felt the system was geared against them and had forgone any idea of working within it on ANY level... He spoke to people who KNEW how evil America was worldwide AND domestically - or at least didn’t believe the BS! Traditionally, at that time too many of us looked down on ourselves and elevated white people as something to emulate. We largely didn’t think in terms of organizing by and for ourselves. We prayed to white Jesus and a white god! We thought biblical Jews were white! There were black scholars illuminating truth, there were blacks pursuing business enterprises but EM had a HUGE organization doing so! He was faaar from perfect but what leader is otherwise??
@ramoneagustus9391
@ramoneagustus9391 3 жыл бұрын
Not only did ali get threatened with a bullet but they also beat his body guard up,so he had little choice.
@shedshow1439
@shedshow1439 3 жыл бұрын
why does the end feel like the beginning. is there a part 2 ?
@hellskitchen10036
@hellskitchen10036 2 жыл бұрын
When I was a 15, coming home from school there was an Elijah speaks protest on Washington st. Paterson, NJ, just then the lead speaker stopped and pointed to me and said "There is your enemy, if you get the chance destroy him if you can without being caught !" I found it confusing since I had just came back from a Martin Luther King march in Alabama that weekend.
@ennis4417
@ennis4417 4 жыл бұрын
I actually can't wait to see pt2 bro
@daveredd9832
@daveredd9832 2 жыл бұрын
One irony is that Islam in Africa were the greatest slave traders of all time and are to this very day. But you are not allowed to mention that.
@hsl2208
@hsl2208 4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for defining the difference between islam and the nation of islam✊🏽
@OG_718
@OG_718 4 жыл бұрын
You do a great job with these videos bro. I was well aware of Ali's dismissal of Malcolm after he left the NOI. Having so much respect for Malcolm and studying his life, I was disappointed with how Ali treated him upon leaving as well as his response to Malcolm's death. Those actions along with the way he treated Joe Frazier were some of the real dark spots of Ali's life to me. Thanks for putting this together.
@ascendantking2178
@ascendantking2178 3 жыл бұрын
I respect ali for apologizing to joe fraizer family later in life and attending his funeral. Also also later regret turning his back on malcom and said that was the biggest mistake of his life
@scottrick90210
@scottrick90210 2 жыл бұрын
Ali was a great entrtainer and boxer and rat in other areas
@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070
@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 Жыл бұрын
Ali said he regretted both of those things. He didn’t know better.
@damonselman636
@damonselman636 4 жыл бұрын
Scary thing, there have been a lot discussion of Reddit about the likes of the NoI in light of the Nick Cannon and DeSean Jackson comments..
@Theskiingman
@Theskiingman 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! So much useful info.
@rabiileomar7395
@rabiileomar7395 2 жыл бұрын
The term dark side has no place what you narrated. Ali I was young in experienced at the time but never did something to be painted as a dark side.
@finished6267
@finished6267 2 жыл бұрын
Clicks. Viral.
@finished6267
@finished6267 2 жыл бұрын
Remember. Greed is behind most anything you see on KZbin
@rodgalaurius7956
@rodgalaurius7956 4 жыл бұрын
What happened to nba daily uploads I missed those after school
@lucasborja3797
@lucasborja3797 4 жыл бұрын
He didn’t enjoy making them anymore
@greatwhite61967
@greatwhite61967 2 жыл бұрын
Ive only watched a quick bit of this but on quite a few documentaries about Mohammed Ali i was surprised that when Mike Tyson was about to fight Larry Holmes he climbed in the ring & said to Tyson: " Remember what you said - get him for me. " This was something i remembered from an early documentary of the rise of Tyson & how he watched infinite amounts of boxers in many weights fighting that he wanted to drop Holmes for beating Ali & i guess grudges carried on even long after he retired & was ill with Parkinsons Disease but i must admit i was taken aback that Ali said this especially when yiu consider Larry Holmes broke down in tears after deafeting Ali who was his idol... The simple fact was Ali stayed in the ring or came back from retirement when he shouldnt have & he shouldve known that even if Joe Louis was in front of him he'd have tk defeat him & im sure Ali wouldve cried also having to beat Louis & though to Ali's idol was not in his wriggt division as Sugar Ray Robinson was the king, the master, my idol." Im sure he wouldnt have liked to see , in an alternate universe that saw Ali vs Robinson with Ali going on to beat Robinson in the ring but like the gentleman said as an intro Ali & men like him are only human & say things they shouldnt or do things they shouldn't & of course im talking about how he went too far by severely direspecting his once friend who lobbied to have Ali get him reinstated to box again & though Joe supported Ali & his family as best he could through those 3 years i think anyone would feel betrayed by the way he trashed talked about Joe once he was reinstated & the worst thing another black can call another (i learned as a child) was to call Joe " An Uncle Tom " as the worst disrespectful thing to say by Ali to Joe... Because of ongoing ill health i can only sit & watch a small amount of Tv at any given time then i need to rest so every day i put on documentaries of all the great boxers from all weight divisions & ive watched the same ones over & over & though Ali was fast with lightning quips towards his opponents & was then called the Louisville Lip i found that by watching Joe Frazier's documentaries he wasnt slow at throwing them back to Ali... During his first fight with Joe Ali stated he was a god & Joe couldnt beat him & Joes reply had me laughing when he said " Well Lord Your In The Wrong House Tonight " The other that Joe said during the same fight also had me in laughter as Ali kept saying he'd drop Joe in the 6th Round but after the 6th Round came & went Joe said to Ali simething along the lines of " Im still here , did you bring yiur lunch box " To this day i still dont understand that i thought that what he was doing an saying was only a joke & to promote their or should i say his fights but Ali needed no promoting by the time he was disrespecting Joe Frazier.. Yes hed spent 3 years in exile but that alone along with seeing Ali box again doesnt cut it as far as Ali saying it was just harmless fun meant ti promote his fights yet he only truly realised when he found out throughout their rivalry Joe & his family had received death threats & his children were left in tears because of being picked on at school or out & about & there were more issues the Frazier family haf to put uo with because of Alis trash talk & it was onky until many years later he was told of tge ramifications of what he did & how it impacted Joe Fraziers family that Ali broke down in tears as he didnt see that what he was doing would cause so much hurt... Its one thing if Ali said to Frazier before the fights as a way of building the hype to sell the fight that he arranged with Joe to say look im going trash talk yiu so bad to the point ill call you an Uncle Tom but that Ali told Joe before doing this " i dont mean it & its just to hype up the fight " But Ali needed no hype for people to go & watch him fight or watch the fight on Tv & to claim all the trash talk was just a joke obviously didnt work out that way as yet again in Thriller In Manila he likened Joe to a gorilla & did his usual Louisville Lip rhyming trash talk but i still think this was (no pun intended) more than just a low blow & his words carried a lot of weight with fans who were Pro Ali Fan's... To hear of him telling Tyson to stick to his word as he stated long before facing Larry Holmes that hed beat him for defeating Ali yet Holmes was in tears after defeating Ali & there was a point & a line you dont cross but i guess Ali didnt think it included him & i found out about all of this as i got older because as a kid we just got to see the fights & werent allowed to watch anything that Ali might come out with as he had started bad mouthing Joe early doors & it goes to show yiu that your idols are not saints & though they eventually truly once and for all made up i still disagreed & still cant defend Ali for his actions towards his friend yet they tried to pass it off as just fun to promote his fights but he mustve known deep down that what he said & did was wrong but he was too proud of himself & his ego wouldn't let him.... In light of this still ongoing coronavirus & its variants stay safe and healthy wherever you are in this world & enjoy your weekend ahead... .....
@MrOmega3577
@MrOmega3577 2 жыл бұрын
where part two
@rhyswallace3590
@rhyswallace3590 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the next part
@autofill962
@autofill962 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a part 2🙏🏽
@brandonkozak4281
@brandonkozak4281 3 жыл бұрын
Umm ... part 2?? (Or 3? ... seeing as I felt this one and the one before it were connected.) What happened?? Were you showing the dark side of Ali pt 2 and see the light?? Will Smith give you a death threat?? (Kidding) I love these videos!
@eduardocisneros7284
@eduardocisneros7284 4 жыл бұрын
Love these vids
@Exeile
@Exeile 4 жыл бұрын
I had to research your channel to find out that you haven’t really been uploading. I understand theres nothing to really report but the nba is back. Not asking for you to produce. Was just wondering because I use to watch your vids daily.
@Mac2Real
@Mac2Real 2 жыл бұрын
It's been a year...put out part 2
@aidansmith9026
@aidansmith9026 2 жыл бұрын
Great mini doc brother
@waynedoyle5584
@waynedoyle5584 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for vid/ grateful ......is there a part 2 ?
@lilking5501
@lilking5501 3 жыл бұрын
Were is the 2nd part to this
@josefserf1926
@josefserf1926 2 жыл бұрын
The NOI was sometimes a protector of Ali's but sometimes a jailor. What could he do?
@brianjones7233
@brianjones7233 4 жыл бұрын
Becoming one of my favourite youtubers 🙏🏿🙏🏿
@michaelcrockette8694
@michaelcrockette8694 2 жыл бұрын
the Nation taught black people to love and have pride in themselves. if that’s ur idea of teaching hate so be it.
@ritchski1
@ritchski1 2 жыл бұрын
Charisma gives you a lot of free passes, Ali had it in spades so people looked past it. But Ali came good later I think, his real spirit came trough dealing with illness, he ended up a wise humble man
@buttercup5920
@buttercup5920 Жыл бұрын
He always was a wise humble man
@yoservs
@yoservs 2 жыл бұрын
when is the second part of this doccie going to be released?
@bonobo3833
@bonobo3833 4 жыл бұрын
Great video zach!
@claykendall7681
@claykendall7681 2 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali was a twenty-two year old kid who probably met Brother Malcolm two years prior to his heavyweight title fight with Liston. Muhammad Ali never left Louisville growing up much less the state of Kentucky unless it had to do with boxing. Ali never lived the street life growing up, and he always had his parents. Ali was not very smart in school either he actually was not even smart enough to pass the military test they were given back then. The Army lowered the test score to draft him into the military, because they were upset that he joined the N.O.I. allegedly? Brother Malcolm however was a Street Warrior who came from Hard Times. Born out in the Midwest according to Alex Haley's autobiography. Malcolm's Father was killed by Klansman in Omaha Nebraska for being a follower of Marcus Garvey allegedly?. The trauma caused his Mother to have a mental breakdown, and end up in a mental hospital. Brother Malcolm was a good student who went to school with mostly white people in the Midwest. However in his autobiography he said he told one of the teacher's what he wanted to be whenever he grew up, and his teacher told him that he shouldn't aspire to be anything like that, because he was a colored boy. After this according to the book that's when he said he tuned learning out. Brother Malcolm then lived in Boston, and New York. However he caught his time in Charlestown Massachusetts. Brother Malcolm was a street hustler drug addict, and con artist. Brother Malcolm was all these things, and had lived in three different states by the time he was twenty. Brother Malcolm had experience whenever he met the young Cassius Clay at the time. Brother Malcolm learned every word in the Dictionary before he left prison. Plus the street vernacular, and con artist game he learned on the street. Quite naturally Muhammad Ali would look up to, and take heed to the knowledge, and the precise way Brother Malcolm was able to articulate himself. Ali could also hear, and see the sincere beliefs that Brother Malcolm had for Elijah Muhammad, and the N.O.I. Elijah Muhammad saved Brother Malcolm, and gave him a different narrative to educate himself about who he truly was, and who our people really are. Therefore whenever he spoke to a young impressionable twenty-two year old Muhammad Ali, and gave him the knowledge that he had. I'm sure he put in quite a few times who he learned it from. Elijah Muhammad was considered The Messenger of the N.O.I. not Brother Malcolm, so whenever the word came from their messenger that Brother Malcolm was exiled. Muhammad Ali was a member of the N.O.I. and had to treat Brother Malcolm as he was ordered to do. At that age what he said, and done would be his only logical response. After all Brother Malcolm didn't tell him anything shady about Elijah Muhammad, he only spoke good of him, and look how it changed Brother Malcolm's life? All the scandal behind Elijah Muhammad came out later. As Muhammad Ali got older, and more experienced in Islam, and life he was able to evolve, and grow, and come to understand he was wrong. Honestly in my opinion Brother Malcolm probably understood why Muhammad Ali acted like that towards him. I believe Brother Malcolm would probably have thought I myself once felt like Muhammad feels about Elijah Muhammad. I understand that he is treating me like this, because he is following orders.
@ratedpending
@ratedpending 4 жыл бұрын
That description is goated
@chamilton4962
@chamilton4962 2 жыл бұрын
Any videos on the dark side of the men we're taught are the heros of our American history, in the public school system? Forefathers, Mount Rushmore, Edgar Hoover, etc...
@stevenyourke7901
@stevenyourke7901 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Malcolm X left the NOI voluntarily - wasn’t he excommunicated from NOI by Elijah Muhammed?
@cazu2479
@cazu2479 4 жыл бұрын
Great video bro
@jameshogan6142
@jameshogan6142 5 ай бұрын
Any man that could step into a ring with killers such as Liston, Frazier and Foreman had to have a rougher aspect to him than the sweeter side Ali frequently showed.
@weekend6867
@weekend6867 3 жыл бұрын
Where's the part two!!!
@sysevigny8062
@sysevigny8062 4 жыл бұрын
Keep it up my guy great videos
@tyardovdabulldht2340
@tyardovdabulldht2340 2 жыл бұрын
I had to give you a HUGE 👎. Your title is straight CLICK BAIT! This was more about NOI, ELIJAH MUHAMMAD and MALCOLM X.
@charlesdavis113
@charlesdavis113 2 жыл бұрын
That's Why he used Ali name...to Bait us into viewing his Sh_ _... it's Cancel time...
@ggtjr4
@ggtjr4 2 жыл бұрын
Bruv, you misspelled February. Great vid though. Subscribed
@josephturnner6390
@josephturnner6390 2 жыл бұрын
That is what made Muhammad Ali so great that despite being human he was able to conquer what he did
@briancannon3987
@briancannon3987 2 жыл бұрын
"they murdered x. Tried to blame it on Islam, he turned the power to the have nots. Then came the shot"
@curtiscarpenter9881
@curtiscarpenter9881 2 жыл бұрын
A year after malcom X left the nation of Islam he was dead 1 year later.
@ryanmunguia637
@ryanmunguia637 4 жыл бұрын
Zach, you are beyond creative and an excellent story teller
@MrJreed1000
@MrJreed1000 4 жыл бұрын
Damn.. Ali had a sharp tongue... Hes just malcolm little ... little of nothing ... sheesh
@jamesjohnson8544
@jamesjohnson8544 3 жыл бұрын
Ali was known for talking😂😂
@marcusmbryant
@marcusmbryant 2 жыл бұрын
Zach Lee no one ever called Elijah Muhammad a prophet.
@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466
@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466 2 жыл бұрын
Good video just can't work out what you mean by "The Dark Side", 2 working class heroes interact , whats Dark? Their skin?
@jamaalcarter2883
@jamaalcarter2883 4 жыл бұрын
When u gonna make part 2
@iTZxaFRo
@iTZxaFRo 2 жыл бұрын
@Zach Lee pt 2?
@zamiel3
@zamiel3 3 жыл бұрын
So where's the "dark side" of Ali??
@billbandoh5818
@billbandoh5818 3 жыл бұрын
He’s trying to say the NOI is “bad”. Which is stupid
@zamiel3
@zamiel3 3 жыл бұрын
@@billbandoh5818 I understand what the video is portraying. Which has nothing to do with the title.
@Nik.No.K
@Nik.No.K 4 жыл бұрын
Total bs that a quality video like this can get buried by the YT algorithm for whatever nonsense reason
@Hustlebabysnupe
@Hustlebabysnupe 4 жыл бұрын
Where have u been? You are aware that nba basketball is back right?
@louisskins
@louisskins 2 жыл бұрын
If two men look at a piece of art they can only comprehend it based on their reality. While truth and facts are not subjective, perspective certainly is. I’m not in the Nation and reject all forms of organized religion but if my education, social reality and economic marginalization are not the byproducts of mere circumstance and I can provide verifiable, indisputable and undeniable evidence that there are clearly identifiable entities and institutions responsible , or at least, that have played both active and passive roles in my subjugation while presenting and projecting themselves as the arbiter of equality, justice and democracy on a global scale, using people like myself to reinforce this absurd hypocrisy, I have just one question. What positive or good thing can be said for these people? And if I tell the world the truth, without the propaganda, subconscious manipulation, psychological indifference, and corporate funding that marries that ideology with the financial means to push this narrative and shape an entire culture how else do I affirm my humanity and worth as a human being born with inalienable rights that the very sanctity of mankind stand on? I’d like an example of an individual who could express the pain and rejection that comes from being marginalized by the most hypocritical, criminally corrupt, greedy, dishonest and shameless people in modern history and do it with a damn smile? Because they don’t exist. Why? Because those very people their critique and exposing for their clear and documented corruption, labeled as “hate” conspired to have them killed. Not just to silence them but to psychologically traumatize generations like them so they won’t ever mistake their shameless and inexcusable acts as anything but good! I’m just saying.
@romariobeckford4721
@romariobeckford4721 3 жыл бұрын
This video is more about malcolm x than Muhammad ali
@kyledamron
@kyledamron 2 жыл бұрын
Great channel i am subscribing
@teknallyconsulting5883
@teknallyconsulting5883 Жыл бұрын
Thanks zach
@spank2424
@spank2424 2 жыл бұрын
I believe they would’ve taken Ali out too if he did tried to come to Malcom defense at that time.
@joedon1706
@joedon1706 2 жыл бұрын
No symbol of freedom. The symbol of unwilling to fight for freedom.
@jasonhayden4340
@jasonhayden4340 2 жыл бұрын
Ali just shitted on Malcom when nobody else believes in Ali but he did
@madmike1708
@madmike1708 2 жыл бұрын
It's sad when people still quote Nation Macolm X rather then post Nation. I have always told people "I love Martin Luther King....HAAAATE Malcom X". Mostly because 90% of people who I talked to that quoted Malcom X seems to be the pro segregation version of him. Which in general gains my contempt.
@bigboris5774
@bigboris5774 2 жыл бұрын
“to be continued” 1 year later…
@daffyduckfan4478
@daffyduckfan4478 2 жыл бұрын
What is your ethnicity?
@imnotwatchin
@imnotwatchin 2 жыл бұрын
Elijah Mohammad was simply a cult leader at the end 🤷🏽‍♂️
@jimcatanzaro7808
@jimcatanzaro7808 Жыл бұрын
He would also have sex With minors he got a young girl pregnant she was 14 he was 33 also his mentor in the Muslim faith did the same Also I’m not sure if the laws back then Elvis too and many others did the same
@Worldwidewhat-wb
@Worldwidewhat-wb 2 жыл бұрын
The original members of N.O.I was not all black but biracal
@syllavilla
@syllavilla 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo 👏
@christinecarmichael3150
@christinecarmichael3150 2 жыл бұрын
Ali should not have treated Malcolm like that and said ugly things about him.
@SUPREME114
@SUPREME114 2 жыл бұрын
What about the dark side of the Kennedy president and the dark side of America ? Living in a wicked place like america it will rub off
@THOREAU79
@THOREAU79 2 жыл бұрын
recent evidence has shown that NOI had nothing to do with Malcom X's death . His daughter has written about it.
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