The DARK Side of Stardew Valley... (Pt 2)

[@Mossy3]

The DARK Side of Stardew Valley [FULL MOVIE] (parts 1-3) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaHMeqV_rKhrd80

[@FatherSolaire]

bro,

[@justaguy5862]

Just started watching you and I gotta say you cover alot and do waaaaay more work then anyone should do let alone someone with your upload schedule so uh merry Christmas now take a damn break.

[@pangi5460]

wished they make a expansion ... about zuzu town.

[@dabordietrying]

@@pangi5460 there is a mod for zuzu city actually!

[@rubbegameing5370]

I just want you to know that you do see shadow-people on the surface if you go to the cinema with Krobus, or "marry" him.

[@Natalie-xf8cx]

I feel like there’s also another point that’s worth mentioning - Harvey’s anxiety and loneliness. He’s a perfect example/depiction of someone who’s constantly going through social anxiety, and very likely, panic. The way he hides behind a bush during the egg festival, fear for heights, not leaving his clinic for most of the time, being scared of the farmer when they first met, finding a “safe spot” on farm - speaks a lot about a person who experiences day to day crippling anxiety.

[@l-r9000]

the more i look into the game the more i notice they put a lot of work into making the character personalities and traits

[@mojobear93]

This makes me love Harvey even more!

[@laurahenriksen19]

Yep. I am gonna try make him my spouse if I can as in other games he is lovely and I give him loads of presents haha. I like Harvey bless him 😊

[@YourPalMal23]

As someone with social anxiety and a fear of heights harvey is a relatable character

[@Br00ke291]

Yes. I actually heard the creator used most of his personal issues onto the characters. Like the social anxiety and stuff which is why it’s shown pretty well and not badly. I kinda wish I got with Harvey now but I’m glad I got shane. Shane’s character also deals with alcoholism and depression which makes his character so sad

[@emmathetismgirlie21]

I actually heard a good theory on the " Jas situation ". It explains that maybe Marnie and Jas are not actually related at all. After Jas' parents deaths, Shane's depression began to worsen, and worrying about Jas being taken from him and put into foster care, he asked Marnie to help him take care of her, and she agreed

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Good theory

[@jamzee_]

The way i interpreted it, mainly because i know an extremely similar situation irl, and since im a godfather of a cousin of mine myself, Shane has legal custody due to Godfather laws. You dont usually see it nowadays, but in the past, if all relatives outside of aunts and uncles passed, the Godparents of the child are to take custody. Obviously this has been reformed to where aunts and uncles take custody second after grandparents. Godparents can still get custody though, as long as they are proven to be their godparent. Since Shane is Jes’ godparent, and Marnie is merely Shane’s aunt and not Jes’, Shane is technically next in line for custody from Jes’ parents as her grandparents are most likely deceased too. If you want the family tree, its best to assume it like this. Marnie has most likely 2 siblings, one being Shane’s parent, and the other being Jes’ parent. After Jes was born Shane, being her closest cousin, was dubbed Godfather. In old days, before grandparents or aunts and uncles were given custody of an orphaned child, the godparent could choose to take custody of the child. Most likely Marnie’s parents are deceased, meaning there are no Grandparents for Jes. When jes’ parents died, Shane got choice to become her legal guardian. Shane then asked his aunt Marnie, if she’d be willing to help take care of Jes as he isnt fully able. also hes a drunk so… that too.

[@Portahooty]

I read my name instead of marnie…

[@kevintrang6447]

@@Portahooty Jesus, Marie!

[@deleteduser8424]

I grew up calling my parents close friends "auntie" and "uncle" That makes a lot more sense then what we can gather from dialogue .

[@akashika]

I'd like to point out there is evidence the bus was crashed, if you head left on the road by the bus stop, there are skid marks on the road and the fence is broken. Seems like Pam did crash the bus.

[@ph111s]

drunk driving perhaps?

[@onyi7713]

@@ph111s probably

[@crumblemuffin1257]

Yet,she's the one who drives the damn bus when you fix it

[@toolatetothestory]

@@ph111s ... Remind me. Did we hear how Jas parents died..?

[@wishstar6268]

Actually, the drunk driving causing a crash thing is proven false via a line of dialogue Pam says to you after reaching 9 or 10 hearts with her! She notices you're worried about her driving the bus, knowing her alcoholism, and she tells you that she always makes sure she's sober before she drives. Also, after you upgrade their trailer to a house, Pam tells Penny that she's going to get better and change herself. By all accounts, despite her being a somewhat absent parent to Penny, she *is* responsible, loving, and cares about the safety of others. Stop the Pam slander 2022!!!

[@francisfarmer6696]

Demetrius's "practical tips for first time step dads" book is funny, anyone who's played through Sebastian's arc knows he hasn't read it 💀

[@KG0605]

His mom is literally a carpenter yet he lives in the damn basement 😭 They’d rather have the laboratory upstairs instead of his room. That just seems fucked, especially since he has dialogues about how nice it is to have windows after the player marries him.

[@ecksdeelamow6291]

@@KG0605 it is possible he wanted to be down there but idk i havent played through seb story

[@KG0605]

@@ecksdeelamow6291 I mean it’s pretty possible since he was a kid when they moved into the house. For kids, living in the basement sounds fucking fire. Maybe he did want to be down there at first. However, he does have dialogues talking about how he wishes he had a window down there. Plus his dialogues while married make it clear that he was unhappy in his basement and is much happier in the farm.

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa..]

@@KG0605 this makes me so ipset everytime i think about because robin fully built maru a whole ass section outside her room for a TELESCOPE. Robin built the whole house ground up and didnt think "huh. Maybe three bedrooms in all instead of just 2 wld be good or maybe add some windows to the basement" theres no way she cares

[@averoo_3926]

@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.. how you gonna add windows to a basement 💀

[@Natalie-xf8cx]

Alex’s childhood trauma Penny’s domestic issue Harvey’s anxiety and mid life crisis Robin’s family issue (mainly towards Sebastian) Caroline’s affair and relationship issue with Pierre Shane’s depression Pam’s alcohol abuse Clint’s insecurities George’s disability Kent’s PTSD Jodi’s dissatisfaction with her life Marnie and Lewis’ secret relationship War between the two countries The elemental war Joja cooperation Etc. etc. etc. The most meditating game I’ve ever played.

[@futurelazarus8217]

Ive always been confused who is marnie or lewis married to how are they having a affair or do i just not understand what affair means i always thought it ment you were cheating

[@Natalie-xf8cx]

@@futurelazarus8217 sorry I probably shouldn’t have used the word affair, thanks for point this out!

[@ythatesfacts]

I think if I recall at 10 hearts with Pam she does start to get better by looking to yoba. There is also an Atheist option to say yoba doesn't exist.

[@druvjuice6906]

meanwhile Sam just suffers with pollen allergies

[@snappishorc_legacy8506]

@@Natalie-xf8cx So will Sam if there's a fog of pollen all over the place

[@DBG-fh7io]

Not gonna lie the first time I saw the cutscene where Shane made Jas cry by implying he doesn’t want to live I cried. That’s just heartbreaking for a child to hear. Not to mention how sad it is for Shane as well.

[@emma_nutella58]

He’s probably her only family left and to hear that as a kid must be really hard

[@abysswarrior]

lol

[@lemons1559]

​@@emma_nutella58 My dad's far from my only relative and it still hurts a bunch to know.

[@sodagirl1092]

I have to say, Shane is probably the most realistic character when it comes to depicting what suicidal people think and act like. It doesn't try to sugar coat it with "Oh he's just a bit sad" he literally wants to die and is most likely only still around because his love for Marnie and Jas are holding him back, but at the same time he's not constantly in a state of "Oh woe is me", at the egg festival and other community events, he's actually pretty chill, polite and happy. Having first hand experience with depression and having been suicidal myself, it was strangely refreshing to see someone like me portrayed in a sensitive manner whilst not completely trivialising what I went through and its why I still play Stardew Valley and always get Shane to at least 8 hearts to try and help him out, even if I don't go on to romance him.

[@blokvader8283]

Yeah, as someone who's had thoughts like that, it does really hurt hearing people trash on Shane because he's rude at first. He's a good guy, just has serious issues and needs help to work through them.

[@louisaniathemagnificent8246]

@@blokvader8283 tbf he is rather rude and keeps demanding you to leave him alone when you first meet, but I do wish people would realise that first impressions don’t mean anything. And that’s not excusing being rude there’s just a difference between someone having a rough life and that’s why they can be rather moody and someone who’s genuinely sinister.

[@joiestorme]

This is why his later arc makes me so angry. They basically go “oh yeah he’s getting therapy now” and barely mention it again.

[@brookejon3695]

This is why my friend always marries Shane when he plays Stardew. Shane is the closest depiction of himself he's ever seen in a game.

[@aspenture1087]

@@joiestorme it would've been nice if the 14 heart event was actually him having a relapse or another depression episode/another cutscene similar to his 6 heart event.

[@rollygoldennut]

Something I'm surprised no one ever mentions, probably because it's small in comparison, is Elliott's relationship with his family. In his two heart event, he mentions how they basically tried to crush his dreams of being a successful writer despite his very obvious talent in writing and speech at that time. He points out their blatant pessimism, and you never hear about them at all after that. You have to wonder what drives a young man like Elliott to be *so miserable* with his life at home that he buys a run down cabin to GET AWAY from his parents. It feels like maybe they were TOO overbearing or controlling of him. And the cherry on top is how clearly attention starved he is once you start dating him. He's overjoyed to see you, writes poems for you, snuggles you after a cold day in the rain. Its sweet, but it makes you wonder.

[@brookejon3695]

It is very interesting because he clearly comes from money. He's the product of a high-class family whose sole priority is aesthetics and success, no matter the cost. Even if it makes their child miserable.

[@miyazakiendo3743]

Now this, maybe I’ll choose Elliot than Sebastian. Or Shane or Harvey

[@zero_s]

the last part is probably just him loving the characters and has nothing to do with family problems lol

[@aspenture1087]

@@zero_s it can have to do with family problems. I don't know about other people but my Mum neglected me and only cared about public image and wanted to force me to do what she wants rather than what I want (she did lots of other things, those are probably the smallest things she's done). So I didn't really have a connection with her or anyone else and so when I finally had friends, I was extremely clingy. I didn't verbalise it to my friends but if I did I would probably sound pretty similar to Elliott.

[@mayorgeneralramirez1997]

​@@aspenture1087How do you do these days?

[@goodwork99]

Haley actually cares about the kids education aswell, her 14 heart event is a charity cake walk witch she wants to do because she over hears jas and Vincent complaining about the books cover falling off and and penny say that new books are to expensive so she dose the cake walk to raise money to get new books for the kids:))

[@ashleypetrini4627]

DON'T YOU DARE MAKE ME STOP HATING HAILEY! STOP IT!😢

[@alikouwu]

It made me love haley even more

[@Ninjazef1748]

She has a big ego. No one likes ego

[@raviolibirb8009]

@@Ninjazef1748 at least she grew out of it. She became a sweetheart once you get to know her better

[@Rifftide_Guitar]

​@@alikouwusame bro✊

[@fiercestpond4722]

Pams trailer only has one bed. Penny isn’t the type to make Pam give her the bed. Pam most likely willingly sleeps on a hard bench night after night for penny to have a tiny bit of comfort in her life.

[@pushista9322]

If Pam cared about Penny, we wouldn't see Penny hiding her pain in books all the time.

[@Lemony123]

ah... so that's why I thought she just character that life outside of the world because I never meet him except in festival? yeah I think.

[@meowdough3438]

@@pushista9322 You can still feel pain even if you have someone who really cares for you tho? But idk I'm new to Stardew Valley

[@Pinxy_P]

@@pushista9322 There is a difference between being loved and feeling loved. Pam loves Penny; she just doesn't know how to let Penny feel it.

[@pushista9322]

@@Pinxy_P Congratulations, you are enabling abusers! This is exactly what bad psychotherapists tell their clients in order to reconcile with their abusive relatives or partners.

[@kristenhanisch8508]

During the segment about Sebastian's relationships with Demetrius and Maru, I also thought of the heart scene where Sebastian is trying to do some coding work and Robin says that Abigail is coming over, and Sebastian is frustrated because he's trying to work and he feels like he doesn't get the same courtesy that Maru does when she's tinkering on her projects. Honestly, as I watch his arc unfold I actually really like him. I'd marry him if he didn't have the dream of taking his motorcycle and moving to Zuzu City. It wouldn't be fair to him.

[@MsOdd86]

Ik I’m late but after you marry him Sebastian addresses this and says he is much happier on the farm than he would have been in zuzu city:)

[@PossibleBat]

@@MsOdd86 but is he really? I actually don’t think he is happy, sure he loves you as the player, but he just accepts that new lifestyle out of his love to you, he deals with it because of you. He could be happier and he knows this, that’s why he keeps his bike and is still is very much a loner and he only interacts with you, he doesn’t like anyone else. It’s a cruel lifestyle for him. I regretted marrying him, didn’t want to hurt him by divorce so I started a whole new run. That marriage fucked me up lmao like I’m also a loner and I can recognize unhappiness when I see it, specially in a similar form like I do.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@PossibleBat Nothing you're saying says he's unhappy to me. He likes his motorcycle so he keeps it, he's a loner because some of us just are. Personally I think it's more unfair to decide that someone 'could be happier' and pushing them away rather than letting them make their own choices. When I used to do that all I actually did was hurt people that truly loved me 'for their own good' and it wasn't behavior I could continue to accept from myself because of that. Obviously that's just my view, just offering another angle to consider.

[@ajunishi]

​@@PossibleBat Trust me, Sebastian is way happier once you marry him and he's the sweetest. He would often voice out to you that he's happier with you and he feels more belonged in your farm than with his family. I love that cute emo frog boy.

[@cannotthinkofaname7904]

Penny gets paid to teach the kids If you marry her, she talks about going in to WORK in town on the days she tutors them Sure, Jas and Vincent only go to school three days a week (excluding summer vacation and holidays), but conversely, they are getting a 1:2 teacher-student ratio. From that perspective, they're likely getting more attention with their studies than they would in a town with a more typical public school system. Not to mention, while Pam is unemployed, it's likely that Penny is supporting the household financially from her teaching gig, although we don't really know the state of long-term unemployment and welfare benefits in Pelican Town Although Penny and Pam don't have much, they never seem at death's door financially or otherwise So, while Penny certainly is taking an interest in the children and supporting their education as best she can as a stand-in teacher, it's unfair to say she's being uncompensated and that the children's studies are being neglected by their parents You can even find Vincent's report card so it's clear that Jody is taking notice of her son's education

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

Agreed

[@jessicareese3987]

Also when you marry Haley you get an event where she helps raise money to help Penny afford new books to teach them with.

[@charliejones1999]

also, when you talk to Penny, she sometimes says "I'm trying to save money from my tutoring job, but it's hard with my mother out of job", implying once again that she does get paid and does support her family financially.

[@gabrielalejandrosandovalvi5819]

Also in summer she take care of the kids at the playground. Maybe is more a Babysitter job than a teacher. Or maybe its just some truly altruism, some people really love kids...

[@doritos4956]

​@gabrielalejandrosandovalvi5819 she loses a lot of hearts if you say you don't like kids She does truly love them but she needs the money hence why she does it as a job

[@ashleypetrini4627]

As much as I long to hate Pam, I can't. One event you have with her/Penny is where you help Penny clean up the trailer and Pam gets pissed off, claiming she had everything exactly where she wanted it. But, after your character visibly leaves Pam makes it obvious that she's not mad that Penny cleaned up, but it was more anger out of embarrassment of an "outsider" seeing how shitty their living condition is. She also has dialog where she says that Penny is all that she has left, and makes it clear that you better not EVER hurt Penny in any way. Plus, she tends to talk about Penny a lot, as if she's bragging about her. It's obvious that she used to be a lovingly devoted mother to Penny, until the male parental figure up and abandoned them both. Which makes me want to find the dirtbag and turn him into fertilizer.

[@johnlennon2333]

Pam, Linus, Shane and Willy are my best friends lmao 😂 but yh Pam isn't a bad character

[@9990zara]

yeah! i don't understand why people hate on pam so much. i mean, the lady's clearly had it very rough. and i don't get where the drunk driving argument comes from? she seems to only drink at the saloon, she doesn't seem to drink at home (when penny mentions pam smells like alcohol, she assumes she must have stopped by the saloon, not just that she's been drinking). i semi-accidentaly got pam to 10 hearts and she's really not a bad person. i'd say 1/4 of her dialogue is being self-depricating, 1/4 is about her drinking, and 1/2 is related to how much she loves/is proud of penny. at least for what i've gotten. she hasn't been a good parent, but she clearly loves her daughter.

[@sourgreendolly7685]

@@9990zara It's very personal for a lot of people, of course people hate her. Whether or not she loves Penny doesn't change how painful it can be to see people behave the way Pam behaves. Don't get me wrong, she's a well written character with depth and complex emotions! But if you want to understand why people hate her, they probably have their own Pam.

[@erickhouston2967]

Would you hate jodi if she left her sons and traumatized husband?

[@esco5842]

​@@erickhouston2967I would

[@astrocake584]

I know this is late but I’d like to add. Robin’s first husband and Sebastian’s father actually died. She told Sebastian that he never came back from his shift at work because she was scared to tell him that he died, which is kinda fucked up but whatever. I’m not sure if it’s completely true but everywhere I look confirms it and it’s hinted at in game so take it as you will. It honestly just makes the whole situation more sad.

[@shayllow8833]

Penny should just become the mayor of Pelican Town at this point.

[@Starfloofle]

I'd back her 100%

[@Jakeee108]

Fr I would help her do it

[@theboneknight4952]

How about Robin?

[@PossibleBat]

She deserves everything, she’s a sweetheart and I just wish I could adopt her 😭

[@shayllow8833]

@@theboneknight4952 I like Robin! She's like the friendly neighbor haha

[@YourIngrownToenail]

i remember Demetrius saying something like: "You need to water the plants." in a letter he sent me. No shit, weirdo. And the tomato scene just annoys me so much. After that the mahogany bed thing. Dude doesnt have any redeeming quality at all. There's also the fact that he clearly favors his own daughter than Sebastian.

[@cet1r1z1ne]

I go out of my way to talk to that motherfucker next to the fountain and he wants to tell me that water-retaining soil -- GET THIS -- retains water. He is a man who believes he is the smartest person in the room 110% of the time. I wanna be charitable about the tomato scene because I honestly believe he might just be a dummy but he was legitimately up his own ass about the four-poster bed. Imagine carving 4 matching wooden posts to complete a bed design and your own husband tries to get the guest to tell you that it was a waste of time and resources. Then he has the gall to say "I guess I'll be in the doghouse, then" when nobody takes his side. He's waking up the next day with divorce papers on his pillow.

[@aryafylfort9717]

Fucking racist.

[@athoth7704]

You can't really blame him for liking his biological daughter more than his stepson but I do agree that Sebastian isn't treated fairly by his parents. Married him to get him out of that household.

[@aryafylfort9717]

@@athoth7704 Yeah I mean personally I was trolling, I don't think racism is bad actually, it's super normal to prefer your own race/family over another, the problem is that Maru is not of his race, it's this weird thing where a lot of miscegenated children are abandoned and neglected by both their parents because they don't feel a connection to them at all. It's very tragic but hey what can you do?

[@malachiteyesterday8659]

I mean as for the first 2, he might just be neurodivergent

[@steamtasticvagabond474]

Another hilarious bit about Clint is that if you marry Emily, eventually in the saloon Clint will ask you for dating advice and then promptly attempt to use that advice on Emily (even if you already married her)

[@BlossomPathOnStage15]

Wait does that imply that he is... and she is.....

[@valarmis]

to be fair, this cutscene existed prior to Emily being marriagable and just was never changed

[@steamtasticvagabond474]

@@valarmis it should have been

[@PossibleBat]

Dude is committed for sure lol

[@sourgreendolly7685]

Clint has no loyalty to the player 😂

[@Cristallia]

I agree so much with your opinion about pam... She's not a *bad* mother but just a not ok one... Even tho she's an alcoholic and leaves all the chores to penny she never physically abused her (atleast as far as I know). Penny actually grew up very well and she still loves her mother. And Pam also loves penny and honestly seem like she's her treasure... Even tho penny isn't my partner pam still warns me about how She'll kill me of I hurt penny lol. She loves her and it's obvious-

[@pushista9322]

Penny shows all the signs of chronic stress and low self-esteem. Also, if someone warns people they'd kill them it means the person is violent and can attack their family members, too. It would be obvious if we were talking about a man, so don't let gender stereotypes mislead you

[@uranian-Umbra]

If you flicked penny’s forehead Pam would beat the shit out of you

[@mosesracal6758]

Pam prolly became the town drunk exactly because of the accident (Although there never really is a confirmation) and Gus being the helpful town bartender that he is, enabled Pam to become the town drunk. The bus not being repaired could be Mayor Lewis' strategy to keep Pam from driving again, when the bus is repaired Lewis being so conscious about his position as the beloved town mayor, would obviously help Pam, who is clearly needs something to do other than drinking. She mightve been a very loving mother when she still had that old job of hers.

[@gabrielalejandrosandovalvi5819]

Well... At least for a personal experience (not mine, for a girl that we was something in the college) is very hard for the childrens hate their parents even if their humiliates, abuses them physically, psychologically or even sexual. Even more if their has a only parent, yes, this can affect how the child grows or how their live when are adults. The most common signs are depression, self harming, suicide or bad autoestime. They can hate themselves, but almost never will hate their parents... This is real shit, I think that ape was concern about that, And him just leave in daddy issues for not doing the atmosfere too... Disgusting. In the game there are references to suicide, alcholism or depresión, but you will NEVER seeing a character victim of domestic violence (or any type of violence besides PTSD of kent) or even worse, sexual assault

[@connor_walker]

There’s some dark stuff related to Linus. Like how a) the town can’t afford to help him out in the slightest, to the point he has to root through garbage at night to feed himself and b) an unknown person is constantly throwing rocks at his tent at night. who tf is doing that?

[@soupsoup5661]

Linus said he chose that lifestyle, though. You get a cutscene where Robin says you should invite him to live with you on the farm and that she would build him a house and if you agree he declines and says it's his choice to be living like this. If you don't agree he will be happy because you understand him and his lifestyle. But yes the rock throwing is really uncalled for and whoever's doing it need to stop because Linus is precious

[@coltontooke7176]

I think it’s Clint throwing the rocks because fuck Clint

[@pushista9322]

@@soupsoup5661 I have never bought this BS about Linus choosing his lifestyle. In many cases he looks visibly uncomfortable, humiliated and struggling. Homeless people do use 'lifestyle choice' argument as a coping mechanism but Concerned Ape makes it look like a valid informed choice.

[@soupsoup5661]

@@pushista9322 okay

[@sup1602]

@@pushista9322 Idk, foraging make you boat loads of cash in that game so he could be quite rich.

[@loneIyboy15]

Bro, Penny is paid to tutor the kids. It's even one of her regular dialogues: “I'm trying to save money from my tutoring job, but it's hard with my mother out of work.”

[@wallamazoo01]

Also if married, you talk to her in Pierres, she says “Don’t worry, I’m using my money for this.” So either the poppies you gift her are working real well to pay the bills, or it’s her tutoring gig. I wish there was more to her love of artifacts than some dialogue here and there.

[@yeasty_shoes0666]

To counter the confusion about Jas calling Marnie her aunt...Vincent can call you Uncle/Auntie even you didn't marry Sam. So it is possible that Shane is friend with Jas' parents and they lived Marnie...since they had been living there few months before the farmer arrived Jas is just accustomed to call Marnie her auntie as Shane is nephew of Marnie.

[@futurelazarus8217]

Yea i get this some of my closests friends kids call me uncle

[@echo8844]

yup. we started calling my moms best "tia" (aunt) growing up and now she's basically family. when she adopted a little boy he was our cousin. not all families are blood or even legally related, and i appreciate seeing it represented❤

[@namanhlehoang9999]

That happen a lot in many society, here in SEA, we call our parent's friend or our parent's sibling friends uncle and aunt

[@FireSorcerer]

6:58 I have easily over 500 hours in the game, probably more than a thousand, but I never realized this. Penny states there is not enough money for the bus, and the bundle that repairs the bus is the one that only requires money, that is amazing attention to detail. Great Job, Eric!!

[@angussmith7748]

Clint falls into an unfortunate category of "nice guy" who believes he deserves love just because he's nice, or at least tries to be. In RTGame's stream highlights, a moment is shown where Clint asks the player for advice on talking to women only to immediately use it for Emily, despite Emily being the player's wife in the context.

[@ronwatford7331]

Ever considered that section was just poorly written, like maybe ConcernedApe just made a mistake and didn't correct it? Clint may be virtually spineless, but he's not a bad character. Even goes out of his way after befriending him by giving you the ability to break your own guides. Definitely a misunderstood character.

[@woobgamer5210]

@@ronwatford7331 I'm pretty sure its intentional. Dude always could never try to win over Emily, not until his 6 heart, however if you are at 8 hearts with Emily and saw her cutscene, even if you don't persue dating Emily, he is too sad to try and ask her out, because HE thinks you got to her first. Clint is so bad with trying to start dating because A. he is too scared, B. he fails to understand the concept of 'just friends'. C. He literally complains so much about why girls dont want him, he is designed to be a nice guy, thats why he is not a batchelor, he only wants Emily. Which is quite sad if you think about it, a player could fall for Clint's shyness and plight for wanting love and affection, yet he is doomed to fail at love unless the player doesn't become close with Emily, and chooses to help him ask Emily out to a festival (as friends by the way so even when he wins, he fails)

[@adambrandist7058]

THANK YOU for talking about how nice Penny is. I have seen so much Penny slander that she's boring, that liking her means you have a saviour complex etc. Someone needed to air out how good she is.

[@wallamazoo01]

I had my guy marry her because of her unconditional love for the community of Stardew Valley. He wanted more out of life and decided to open the letter from grandpa. He never realized it was possible to meet a woman with such deep compassion. But by Concerned Ape’s dialogue written for Penny, it’s clear she fell in love with the PC the moment you meet her. So while her cutscenes aren’t romantic like leah’s or trippy like Emily’s, you never see a side of Penny that isn’t a natural her. Later I learned it’s not at all the PC feels bad for Penny. You give her an opportunity to be alive, to be a mom, and she loves taking care of the farm much more than the trailer. It’s perfectly fine she is bashful about helping out on the farm. I’d honestly say that Penny is truly the destined love interest for the player. It takes an equally compassionate farmer to understand Penny’s “simplicity.” I know it all too well myself. Almost 10 years ago I married a woman who Penny, for all intents and purposes, seems based on.

[@dollzo]

I mean all those things can still be true

[@igt-nj1gd]

Penny and Elliot don't deserve as much slander as they get. For example, it's not Elliot's fault that his portrait looks stuck up.

[@Campake]

you should've mentioned that penny hates beer, probably meaning how much she hates what beer does to her mother

[@X-SPONGED]

Shane is one of the best written depressed characters in fictional history. He actually feels like a real person who's dealing with depression, the dark humor, the bleak "wise" advice, the rampant alcoholism, his unhealthy diet. It's all been seen before and is displayed ever so brilliantly in an indie game that not even most AAA game studios would come CLOSE to recreating. I always pursue his heart events every playthrough. Even if I don't date or marry him, I at least can be comforted that he's doing better in the town than he was before I arrived. Plus, *_BLUE CHICKENS!!!_*

[@Creampuff_Animates_OwO]

Alex is such a sweet guy. He has these big dreams of being a sports star and comes off as arrogant. I'm pretty sure he's just masking his real emotions, feeling like he has to prove himself, trying to feel like he's good enough. Once you get close with him, he really opens up. He's a pretty well written character and I love him.

[@gabrielalejandrosandovalvi5819]

Me too... Not for the bromance, actually I feel very identified with him. Life is hard, but if you want to live better, you have to be hard. In any way that work with you. I didn't find arrogant when he says that he will become a leyend for the sport. And you will his No1 fan... In my case, I have some serious matters that since 2 years than I am working. And some friends who give me their suport I promesed them that when I am done with that, I will dedicate more time for them... I literally see myself in Alex dedication for the sport... But in my case is for my family lol I am trash at sports 😂

[@dabordietrying]

yeah, i 100% think Shane's 6 heart cut scene was at least for sure the saddest. i cried the first time i saw it while playing the game and maybe kind of shed some tears while watching it again in this video... its too relatable. and his relationship with jas is too. how they're kind of related (maybe?), he's not her biological father but still cares for her like one. i really relate to that a lot too. thats why i chose him as a husband in my main save file

[@oldkid820]

I married Penny because she’s the best but mostly because she was the first with max hearts because I used her as an artifact trashcan.

[@jamescanjuggle]

😂

[@lifts-her-tail9096]

You can do that!?

[@lilavion]

Why didnt you just sell them ? 😂

[@maricampari3970]

Dude your name and icon really brings me back. A legend of a background character.

[@khangnguyenthaiduy9129]

At first, I also intend to marry Penny (or Sam if I play as female). But then I realize that Vincent (Sam's brother) want to marry Penny when he grow up so I go for Emily instead.

[@intensityz6462]

Shane is my favorite character. I can relate to him so much. My grades were declining and my dad yelled at me and kept asking me why my grades were so bad when they used to be all A's. I told him, "I don't plan on being alive long enough for it to matter." I just want to jive Shane a hug.

[@AceAviations2]

Shane's 6 Heart cutscene highlights my single biggest criticism of the game, the way that Stardew Valley handles the heart events as separate from gameplay, it creates a SERIOUS mood whiplash when instead of regaining control in front of Harvey's Clinic you regain control from where you triggered the heart event like nothing actually happened. With other cases this isn't as much of an issue due to the more light-hearted nature of them, but this one in particular suffers the most from the gameplay/story disconnect that the heart cutscenes cause. I would have liked it where the heart events actually have an effect on the world in a more direct way, like having Shane still be in the clinic for the day. Would it be annoying if you were trying to get to the ranch for stuff, yes, however it would make the more serious tone heart events feel more connected to the world than these separate things that seem to exist in a vacuum of what's happening in the immediate vicinity.

[@moyaienjoyer3037]

Unfortunately the opposite problem happened to me. I went to go deliver something at night, I forgot what specifically, and triggered Shane’s first cutscene where he gives you a drink. Unfortunately they had to be realistic, and while cutscenes usually don’t take time, this one actually does debuff you and decrease your movement speed. I got back before 2 am but it was still kind of annoying

[@LonelyAncient]

They also don't consider the player's relationships. so if you marry Emily before doing Clint's events, you get the situation where the player is encouraging Clint to flirt with his/her wife.

[@wallamazoo01]

@@LonelyAncient Maybe “helping” clint in this case is just flexing. “Go ahead, flirt with my wife. She’ll be friendly, sure, but we go home and cuddle our “spiritual bond” if ya know what I mean.”

[@myeeeeeh]

@LonelyAncient Yeah they hadn't adjusted the scenes to take Emily being your wife into account.

[@woobgamer5210]

@@myeeeeeh but now they did, so now you can just get screwed out of seeing Clint's second and last cutscene, which makes him look even more like an entitled 'nice guy' loser

[@coocoo_mcf]

While Shane 6 heart event answer are all neutral (in a sense it still somewhat help him and didn't effect your friendship). I think the 4th option is the most suitable one. - Option 1 is basically indirectly ignore his true feeling/emotion and try to make him 'see the good of the world'. - Option 2 while it may seem innocent enough, it's almost sounded like you were trying to guilt-tripping him using Jas. - Option 3 is almost like option 2, but i could've swore there's a dialogue saying something about him not believing in Yoba (i think it's random? I forgot, my bad). - Option 4 while it may seem like a gamble, it also in a way trying to give Shane a shoulder to lean on and helping him until he was able to walk by himself. It somewhat sounds like the player offering to be Shane anchor, someone outside of his family that still care about him despite seeing all his ugly flaws. Please do remember, while giving words of encouragement to a depressed person isn't necessary a bad thing (it's a great thing in fact). But don't forget to actually *show* them that you care, sometimes just spending time with them could help. Take care.

[@blokvader8283]

Yeah, something that really hurts is trivializing it, or God forbid "Oh, you're depressed? Just cheer up!"

[@X-SPONGED]

But it can also be a double edged sword by saying, "If you wanna end you life here, it's ok. I'll vouch for you". Personally, I like Jas' Option more. Emphasizing he needs to fulfill his duty as a Godfather and be there for Jas. He seems to also really care for her which would make this statement more impactful.

[@Reicha]

I've had to use 2 in a dire situation, but then I followed up with a modified 4 which I by far prefer as both a long-time affected person and someone with affected friends. It grinds your self-worth down in a way, to hear that you should stay alive when you're miserable, for other people's sake - but it's a good anchor in the moment. I would have gone with 2 if Shane had seemed anxiously on-the-edge and flighty, but dejected and energyless I felt safe with no.4.

[@Nixahma]

As someone who has had depression: People with depression rarely want to hear "it gets better". Chances are, they've heard that their whole life, or they just don't feel strong enough to hold out that long. Phrases like these sound hopeful, but more often than not, they're just meaningless phrases to the recipient, and sometimes even to the one speaking them. From my experience (not only with myself, but also talking to suicidal people), suicidal people really appreciate having someone be down-to-earth with them, even if it's not strictly positive. Option four is a great example of this.

[@woobgamer5210]

I feel like option 2 is probably the best words Shane needed to here. Like sure, he feels worse in the moment that Jas needs him, but, we're clearly right, Jas DOES need him. Jas only has Marnie, who is usually working the farm, Vincent who wouldn't understand her, Penny who she only meets with to learn, and Shane, the guy who's been there for her since she was a baby. Jas, NEEDS Shane, Shane NEEDS Jas. Which makes it sad when Shane is stuck working at Joja and when he's not doing that, getting hamerred until way after Jas goes to bed. TBH Makes me wish Shane's 7 heart cutscene wasn't him filming an advertisement for Joja, but instead getting so sick of Joja working him to the bone for so little, with Jas wanting to hang out with Shane due to feeling super lonely, and Shane finally snapping and going over to Joja to yell at Morris and demand his release, while Marnie is shopping in an aisle to watch, and when Morris tries to pull the 'remember, youre here forever' card, Marnie reminds Morris that she despite being more on the plumper side, she is the strongest woman in Pelican Town, and could legit destroy him, so Morris gets taken down a notch ego wise and lamentably lets Shane go

[@AshleyAmbrose94]

my theory is that since maru and sebastian are both adults, likely similar in age, it's possible demetrius was robin's affair and ruined her previous marriage to sebastian's father, meaning he sees the man as a homewrecker and thus will never respect him as his stepfather.

[@midzik48]

The Shane 6 heart event really is sad. It really is hard to love a family member who's suffering from alcoholism. Hearing police reports with my brother's name in them or hearing the way he talks to family or friends hurts, but I know it's not his fault. It just hurts.

[@michamarkowski2204]

I don't think children are neglected here. In small communities it's not uncommon to have one person look after a group of children and teach them. We don't know if Penny's doing it for free.

[@DaydreamingOtaku]

My personal headcanon is that Shane is just distant relatives w/ Jas. They're most likely 2nd, 3rd, etc. cousins while Shane is probably slightly closer to Marnie than Jas on the family tree. (Speaking as someone with distant, yet close relatives. I just call most people "aunt" & "uncle" out of respect if they're much older than me/closer to my mom's age)

[@alyssaventer6756]

i feel so privileged i only watched part 1 about 10 mins ago so i didn’t have to wait for part 2🥰

[@fiachracoakley3303]

Same.

[@yankokassinof6710]

same

[@thedragondoge5284]

Lucky.

[@41.4D]

Weird thing about Demetrius: he never ever talks about Sebastian, it's like the guy doesn't even exists

[@joysimmons2224]

There is something about Vincent. Recently in a video I watched of Stardew 100 days without leveling up. Vincent goes into Gunthers Museum/House at 11:30 at night alone and the door locks behind him. Why? Vincent better not be getting abused.

[@mj9711]

Could you linked the video ?

[@gracev8762]

What day?

[@PossibleBat]

Whaaaaat 😭

[@The80sCryptid]

Hopefully this is a glitch but not once have I seen this while playing the game. I hope this isn't true.

[@woobgamer5210]

tbh I have a theory that Gunther is practically Vincent's therapist. Think about it, his father is a war veteran who is a completely different man when he returns, meaning Vincent essentially 'lost' his father, Jodi, his mom, is stressed out dealing with Alex, a problem child who barely listens to her, who also barely acts like a brother to Vincent. Maybe Vincent, despite being an obliviously happy go lucky kid, deals with severe loneliness that comes up in the night, and going to Gunther late at night helps with that loneliness, with the library being such a calming place and Gunther wishing the best for him. Maybe he sees Gunther as a second father.

[@JO-zu3mz]

I started stardew valley and wiki'd a few things. Found out Shane likes chickens. And I was determined he'd by my husband lol. It backfired; I had an eerily similar path and I bawled at every heart event. This game helped me more than I thought 😭

[@Bingos90]

Personally i think Mr.Qi and Grandpa are either highly advanced Wizards or Deity and what we are seeing is their astral projections. I say that because Mr.Qi started out as a "normal" boy and became extraordinary through willpower, It's almost the same as in Grandpa's letter he talks about losing his sight of what mattered most and decided to get rid of everything to move. It's almost as if Mr.Qi is a wizard or deity of Mystery and Fortune while Grandpa is a wizard or deity of Life and Death. I say that Mr.Qi is representation of Mystery as he says in the dialogue that without Mystery the world is bland and Fortune because he runs a Casino that's being paid for generously and he also supplies the loot in dungeons which could be affected by luck,His possibly a good friend or the boss of Welwick the fortune teller as you could see her in his Casino with a hangover,and as we know it's exclusive to members. Meanwhile i said that Grandpa is a representation of Life is because he sought the most in life and went to Stardew valley to start a farm that's creates life in the form of crops and animals. His presentation of Death is rather shallow but him appearing in our Dreams even though his dead could mean he could have some control over it,he also appears to be sleeping and wearing a nightcap which could represent Eternal rest. All of it is a bit of stretch but it's something that i came up with when i was scrolling through the Wiki

[@musearrives2am]

Gus Theory because he deserves more love- Gus not only feeds Linus (as seen in Linus' two heart cutscene when Gus catches him looting through the trash at night) despite being in financial trouble himself. I also suspect was asked by Mayor Lewis to keep an eye on Pam after she crashed the bus. Its strongly suggested through the dialogue, and Pam grumbiness with her constantly demanding Gus to give her "the strongest" while asking us the Player for booze, that Gus also may be gradually watering down her drinks as a way to subtley combat her alchoholism. Which is why he is so patient with her, knowing her attitude is due to withdrawal. We also learn through a cutscene that she has a tab large enough to put Gus out of buisness, which may have been a factor is Gus trying to get her to sober up. But in his defense it seems to work, as one of the quests on the long term bulletin you can take is giving her a bunch of "potato juice" showing she is trying to quit.

[@katnissever-meme9318]

I wonder if Mayor Lewis would've been willing to fix the bus if Pam wasn't the town drunk. Maybe she started the job before she became an alcoholic, and when the bus finally crashed due to drunk driving Mayor Lewis claimed that there was a lack of funds because he didn't want her back on the roads.

[@anonymousfilipino3232]

ngl this kinda just gives them more character. makes them feel a little bit more realistic, when they all have their own little flaws. for me i feel like that just makes it even more worth it to befriend all of them, because their dialogue progressively gets better and suggests that they become better as people aswell (easiest examples are Alex and Haley who outright treat everyone else like trash at the start) which really makes it feel like you're actually doing something for them, despite the only actual interaction you can have with them is by giving them gifts and seeing them at the right places at the right times it makes me hopeful that in the future, ConcernedApe will add more opportunities to do more for them and help fix their problems

[@ShinyShilla]

It's always "Alex and Haley" and never ever a Shane mention. Bias 🥱

[@Blake_murray16]

Shane is my favourite character in starview valley for a reason, he actively tries to better his life once he sees how it’s affecting now only him but those around him, and although he isn’t magically cured, you can see his improvement over time and I adore that. Although it is funny that he still accepts beer from you after he quits.

[@emmak2327]

In the spring at about 6:30 or 7:00 PM Demetrius and Sebastian cross paths near their house and the way it’s animated suggests they hit shoulders as their walking by. I would argue it actually looks like Demetrius is the one running into Sebastian’s shoulder on purpose.

[@ga1axyshad191]

Shane is probably my favorite character because I relate to him so much. He reminded me of my own struggles. Of how I wanted to take my own life. But then seeing him get help and get even a bit happier made me smile so much. It reminded me of my recovery, of seeing my therapists, getting help from other people and forming good habits. So of course I married him on my first ever playthrough :D Two depressed men holding each other up by love. Ain't that a story.

[@schaffs2]

One think I find funny is that even after Shane’s later heart cutscenes he deals with his alcohol problems, but you can still gift him beer and he still likes it

[@SarahK86]

Yea. And He Says He Drinks Joja cola. But if you gift it to him he Hated it

[@emma_nutella58]

When you marry Sebastian he notices how nice it is to have windows which is sad because his family found it not necessary for him to have a room with windows and instead prioritising the lab to have that room instead of Sebastian

[@thedailyembarassment]

Imagine if there was a fire in the house and poor Sebby couldn't make it out of the basement due to the lack of windows :(

[@SunflowTeaSeven]

OK but why did he just brush over Leo like that? 🤣Leo's situation is the most disturbing out of everyone's in stardew, like it's shown that Willy (and I think Linus?) KNEW about Leo's existence, yet they didn't say anything to the towns people. Like, HELLO there's a homeless orphan with severe psychological trauma, has even started talking to birds, and no one's gonna help him, or at least call social services???? They just leave him to live or die on the island?

[@pyro6273]

Honestly I just think that Shane and Marnie are related, and Jas just calls Marnie her aunt bc she heard Shane call her that

[@xenotriver]

So as to Shane being Jas' godfather: my brother is actually my godfather because my parents couldn't find anyone in time, and my second brother's wife is my godmother. So yeah, I could absolutely see a cousin being a godfather AND a kid introducing him as such.

[@JadeStone00]

My spouse and I are godparents to my brother's kids and to my cousin's daughter. My family has a tradition of naming aunts and uncles as godparents, but my cousin is an only child and a single mom, so she had to branch out a bit, heh.

[@anneott7796]

My brother and sister are my daughter's godparents, and my husband's cousins are my son's

[@joannager0469]

Im a godmother to my sister's son! That's why i didnt find it weird at all lol xd

[@jeyyviee]

Naaahh, the most creepy and darkest character in the game is the farmer. The guy literally goes somebody's house, touch or peek their items, joining other problems put some shit on the soup. True menace

[@ricefarmer-kr4yv]

Not to mention, casually killing everything in their path

[@evanmurphy118]

Gotta say im kinda surprised haley and emilys parents never were brought up. They go on a SEVERAL YEAR TRIP and never return. Kinda strange.

[@moonvrliessighs7129]

I also have encountered one of clint's dialog saying that how did he end up in this town, which you can receive when you talk to him at the stardrop saloon at night and a dialog from marnie also mentioned clint that marnie never seen clint trying to talk to anyone in town before

[@Art-st1yi]

With Shane and Jas and Marnie, I assume that Shane became estranged some how, and Jas never knew him growing up. Then her parents died, and she was Shane’s responsibility. Either Shane was already a depressed alcoholic, or Jas’s parent’s death caused this, but either way, he wasn’t equipped to raise a kid by himself. He and Jas moved in with Marnie, the only stable family either of them had. Shane didn’t want Jas to know that they were related, probably because he didn’t want to explain why he was estranged, and so just claimed he was her god father, and didn’t go any deeper. I assume they are definitely related judging by the hair colour. Also, interesting fact, even if you have godparents, you usually end up going to close family and not your godparents. I think it’s more likely that Shane is Jas’s brother, because of the hair colour. I also can’t think why Marnie would allow some a depressed drunk that she hardly knew to live with her, unless he was Jas’s brother, and they were both sent to live with Marnie.

[@woobgamer5210]

there's a problem with that. A secret note has a picture of Marnie with a baby Jas in the barnhouse. Meaning Marnie probably obtained Jas when she was barely conscious of the world.

[@hateithere8765]

Me watching this and realizing how much more I still have to do in stardew valley even tho it’s my 3rd year-

[@meep7025]

Shadow people can also appear on the wilderness farm at night, but there seems to be certain conditions as they didn't start appearing for a good while.

[@Starfloofle]

It's based on your Combat level. At 10 you can get goddamn *iridium bats* showing up on occasion, which is kind of terrifying, those things hit like a truck lol

[@Minjiji_kim]

I just wanna say this is the most human game I've seen (taking out the slimes and all that) but it just shows the rawness of a human being, idk I just find it really nice that they all have depth. Makes it a more likeable and in some sad cases, relatable

[@user-ov5nv1ff1b]

Oh jeez I always got the impression that penny was being payed to tutor the kids but I guess not, poor penny she seriously needs a vacation

[@randomisaac5959]

She does get paid for the tutoring. It's one of her dialogues mentioning she's been trying to save up money from the tutoring but it's hard since Pam is unemployed. Which makes me wonder... does Pam use Penny's cash for her alcohol or does she have a Alcohol Fund.

[@user-ov5nv1ff1b]

Well it’s probably all being used for food and to keep a roof over their heads

[@jellyplaysgames3588]

I didn't know Shane was an alcoholic and I kept giving him beerr so I could be friends with him 😳

[@woobgamer5210]

It is his favourite food after all, you can do the exact same with Penny.

[@chloesteve6009]

I actually love Shane so much. His story makes me cry every time. Even married him in one save and he's super cute

[@annarose8253]

I thought that Marnie was Shane’s aunt, and Jas was his niece, which would make Marnie Jas’ great-aunt

[@incertaesedis2282]

this makes shane's character more sad too; his sibling+sibling in law left his niece orphaned... reckon caring for jas stings, looking like his siblings, in this theory?

[@creditsunknown7974]

Suprise you didnt mention the fact that your character commits murder. Its almost missed but basicslly Krobus talks about how the Shadow people are, you know, people, specifically calling them his friends. And as you stated they have been basically conpletley screwed over and have now become isolated in their home lands which they are trying to protect. Then you show up and basically invade their lands and murder them, not only that, the guild shop has literally a bounty for killing this sapient race. So you know, we dont only invade ancestral lands for our own monetary gain, but straight up kill the inhabitants because they want to protect against this weird sea weed eating silent maniac.

[@Starfloofle]

I'm honestly a little sad there isn't, like, an item you can get from Krobus, like an emblem of trust or something that makes it so they won't hurt you, a-la the slime tamer's ring, so you don't have to actually genocide his people

[@9990zara]

@@Starfloofle that's a good idea for a mod tbh

[@woobgamer5210]

@@Starfloofle maybe Krobus is aware some of his people are too crazy and bloodthirsty towards humans, and doesn't blame the player for being a murderer of his kind, due to them being aggressive first.

[@iamokayfather8934]

I'm not sure if anyone else has commented about this, but that heart event is not the only reason people think Clint is creepy. He stalks Emily at work, and even worse, he sees her as an object. The two are friends, but Clint's only interest is to win over Emily romantically. We know this because in the fashion heart event, after everyone leaves Emily's house, Emily and the player huddle together and it seems to have a romantic context. Suddenly Clint walks in, Assumes that the player and Emily are together, and congratulates the player, as if they've won a prize. After that, Clint stops talking to Emily, as in one of her dialogues she mentions that Clint hasn't been talking to her as much and she's concerned about their friendship. So long story short, Clint views women as objects, prizes to be won, and becomes angry when Emily does not share feelings with him. He sucks.

[@iamokayfather8934]

Anyway I really enjoyed the video, just felt that the Clint thing needed more context lol

[@sipsip4006]

I dont think your deducation for him to see her as an object is right, but it's your way to interpretoate the game I guess

[@iamokayfather8934]

@@sipsip4006 I suppose so, either way he just isn't satisfied with just being her friend, and once romance is off the table, he abandons her as a friend yet continues to stalk her at work

[@xcubie]

and yet we Still gotta befriend him because perfection

[@xcubie]

@leictreon I can't get mods tho, bc I play on xbox :')

[@sagethegreat4680]

Alot people seem to miss the fact that pelican town was a mining town because it has both a mine and a quarry . George was a miner till there was an accident in the mine leaving him paralyzed and probably others dead . When a town that was built around a mine and mine closes down the town goes into financial ruin .

[@gamercore5216]

Aunt in an informal way can mean "an unrelated older woman friend, especially of a child." so it's Likely Marnie is Shanes blood Aunt and is simply referred to as Jas' Aunt.

[@cupricbugle2143]

we’re all so absorbed in the lore that we start talking about the npcs like if they were real people with real problems. We are all really weird *and I love it*

[@mikaelahanger6152]

Jas's parents were probably Shane's cousins, making Jas his second cousin and Marnie Jas's Great-Aunt. My cousin's kids are just referred to as our cousins and my great aunts and uncles are all just referred to as aunts and uncles. It just makes it way easier for larger families

[@jae-ds2ot]

Sebastians relationship with Maru is a bit sadder considering one of his post-marriage dialogues; "I'm sure Maru's glad that I'm gone" or something similar.

[@eagleowl833]

Are we forgetting that Clint still tries to ask out Emily even if the player has married her! I kinda wish that there was a way to make him get over her or even get revenge for him asking out your own wife

[@Floweramon]

Another note for the Pam segment: you can help their situation by contracting Robin to build a house for them, which seems to touch Pam enough to the point of her wanting to put more of an effort into quitting drinking. A later cutscene in their new home has Pam praying at a Yoba shrine and saying that she has been turning to religion to try and help her find the strength to quit, but feels ashamed because she still slips up.

[@miladimitrovska3710]

Penny is the first person I ever married and she is literally THE BEST. The Best. Love her so much

[@K_Crafts27]

I knew some of this but it was still interesting to watch. I definitely agree with you saying penny is the nicest npc in stardew valley.

[@TripleBerry]

I’m so excited! Part one was awesome

[@mypersonalhodgepodge]

Ok but actually Grandpa was so comforting to me for some reason. I would just summon him when I felt down even if not much was different. I almost cried when I got the statue of perfection and realized I couldn't summon him anymore

[@solflowerr_]

thats not why we call clint a creep. he is insistent with emily despite her ignoring his crush on her which should have been enough of a sign, he has dialogue at the movies that only happens if you're a woman in which he says something like "uh you can rest ur head on my shoulder... if you want.... ehe...." doesnt matter if you're married or not, sometimes when calling him with the telephone he'll say "oh... player... your voice sounds really nice over the phone..." which is creepy. he just generally acts like a creep to the player and is overly obsessive about emily

[@stevemanart]

Penny was the girl I went after in my first playthrough because I really liked just how kind she was. But in my subsequent farms I went through all the spouses just to see what they had to offer and now I go after Abigail because I really like her story and you know purple-haired goth-ish adventurer-wizard...

[@CatCut9]

I think the reason why they called Winchester sky people was because they lived in a space but there is a really great cuts saying that you can see in the starting of the game on the main menu it’s a spaceship crashing down to the ground so that could possibly be theoretically be why they call themselves “sky people”

[@TheBobmBoy]

It's insane how horrifically realistic Shane's depression is

[@Spartakill198]

Fun fact, if I recall correctly, Demetrius says seb's name a whoping 0 times in the game, which says a lot.

[@simonhoogerbrugge468]

Stardew Valley needs to have an option to just hug the npc

[@justFoxPLS]

Why does Marnie have hay next to a fireplace at the only entrance to jas room

[@DraconiusDragora]

The only bad thing I can say about Penny, is that she is too kind for her own good. She cares to much about others, and ignoring to care for herself. So when the player comes in, and marries her, she not only start caring for herself, but she get that monetary support to be able to help and care for the others. She is just too sweet.

[@gabrielalejandrosandovalvi5819]

Yeah... I seem this comentary. In an adventure time video... "Finn made that thing that other heros can't do... Save himself"

[@laurahenriksen19]

BTW... the suspicious shape of the diamond like insert in the shrine for Grandpa made me think about putting diamonds on there as tribute... and it WORKS... That's how I got the perfection statue as before that I had 3 candles not 4. Try it 😊👍🏻

[@grimreaper958]

This works because the diamond summons grandpa that night,candles lit are determined by a "points" system

[@Office_chair]

Something I feel like should be mentioned in this video is how you can sacrifice your own children and how they will haunt you for the rest of the game. I married Haley we have children I decided the children were an inconvenience to me for whatever reason and sacrificed them at the dark shrine of selfishness turning them into doves and sending them away. Until recently.... It's Friday fall 26th. Playing with my sister I go to check my TV and there's a weird channel with no name and just "???" I click it and the screen is completely black except for an ancient doll being on the TV and with the dialogue, "You brought this upon yourself..." "now I'm free... hee hee hee !" There's a flash a bat sound effect noise plays and out pops and ancient doll. But it doesn't end there. It's Tuesday winter 9th. My phone is ringing in my house and I find it to be weird considering I don't get calls anymore. I go to pick it up and this is the dialogue I get. "You place the receiver to your ear" "and are met with a roiling abrasive static" "But wait... beneath it all you can make out" "something else an otherworldly voice...." "Y-O-U H-A-V-E F-O-R-S-A-K-E-N U-S" And I stand there for 20 seconds kinda scared. And it still doesn't end there. I go to change my hairstyle at wizard's Tower and accidentally walk on the red circle teleporting me to the witches hut. I'm instantly greeted with two ancient dolls glowing red flying around and trying to attack me AND I'M RUNNING AROUND AND FREAKING OUT. And they also deal pretty decent damage. You can kill them but they just keep coming back. Also when you kill them they turn into black Ravens and fly away but wait a few seconds and go back inside and they're back again.... Also this may or may not be related to this whole occurrence but killing them seeing them turn into black Ravens instantly hit me that it seems like there were a lot more Ravens attacking my crops than usual. So I speculate it might be related. But clearly all of these events are my children haunting me for the rest of my life. Like not only the fact that you can sacrifice your children is dark but that they continue to haunt you throughout the game. AND AFTER THE WHOLE HAUNTED ANCIENT DOLL INCIDENT ME AND MY SISTER AGREE I PROBABLY DOOMED PELICAN TOWN.... And agreed that it probably won't stop Pierre from being greedy. Also it's even more creepy that spouses like my wife Haley won't say anything or even notice you sacrificing your children like they didn't even exist.

[@Office_chair]

AND NOW I FEEL GUILTY AND WISH I COULD BRING THEM BACK AND MY SISTER THINKS I'VE DOOMED PELICAN TOWN.

[@wanderingedge]

It's not uncommon for step-parents to treat their step-kids unfairly, especially when Maru is his and Robin's daughter. what especially doesn't help is that we know from a heart event with you, Demetrius and Maru that he has no issue with "subtle warnings" about getting in the way of Maru learning and becoming a scientist like himself. Actually, does he even ever talk about Sebastion?

[@kroniisbidet546]

the sandy dialogue appeared to me having her at full hearts

[@Promethe_S]

It would be interesting if you could run against Lewis in an election for position of mayor

[@g42_16]

in the perfection cutscene they just say something like “good to see you old friend” or something then they talk to you about your achievements

[@Peppermint-Snaps]

I think for Jas, the idea that Marnie is her aunt is more of an honorary title, like how family friend's of your parents are aunt or uncle. More over, I've always thought Shane actually had something going on with either her mother or father, and when they died, it broke him. Seeing Jas alone and being her godfather, placing her in the home of Marnie, his actual aunt, was the best thing that he could do for her as he's depressed and grieving.

[@laura-tk5cp]

i saw the perfection cutscenes and im 100% sure that grandpa and qi were gay lovers trust me

[@drag6072]

Going through a Drive Thru in McDonald's Worker: "What do you need to order sir?" Me: "I want to have a Junimo" Worker: "A what?" Me: "A green apple Mcfloat"

[@xcubie]

"But like nobody cares about leo" Me, who adores leo: *guess I'll die*

[@josephr7684]

Jas: *cries*

[@ReleasePeas]

I’ve just started playing and have only been focusing on my farm and the community center. Seeing how problematic the NPCs are makes me feel less guilty for not befriending them yet

[@nashdiy8570]

I didn’t start working on the NPCs til year 3. Also in my opinion the best gifts for them are pale ale and coffee and salads for the others. If you just go into the tavern twice a week and give each person a pale ale you can get it done a lot faster.

[@ReleasePeas]

I have officially befriended the whole town. 10/10 do not regret

[@anonymousfilipino3232]

people always talk about how bad they feel for Penny, but I just feel bad for both Pam and Penny in general if we continue on the theory that Pam only picked up her drinking habits AFTER her husband left, then that just makes feel worse for her i can't blame a person who became worse if they are only half of the reason that they became worse

[@sup1602]

Pam did have a job before being the town drunk, she was a trucker and drove all over the county. Maybe this war caused her to quit for penny's sake then the husband left.

[@Tae-47]

this gives me so much more respect for alex

[@mayaabueg9018]

Rinqueen would be offended with that quote about Leo

[@bayleeelliott4218]

that's exactly what i thought when he said it 😭😭😭