The Dark Trio Explained

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Walking The Shelf

Walking The Shelf

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@lee-pox4348
@lee-pox4348 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like hell's paradise is overshadowed by the other two because I see more people are talking about them, really hope that the anime would get it the attention that it deserves
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
It def is. It’s kind of like how bleach is viewed in the big 3. It’s just as good as the other 2, just a but slept on.
@nexus7071
@nexus7071 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like HP's gonna be released in December, and Chainsaw man confirmed in October, both animated by MAPPA so maybe they wanted to put 2 masterpieces separately to not let the one overshadow the other
@gr3enland593
@gr3enland593 Жыл бұрын
@@nexus7071 nah it will probably come out next year
@Baised-_-Rin
@Baised-_-Rin Жыл бұрын
I hope so aswell. Hell's Paradise is my main favorite from The Dark Trio
@gr3enland593
@gr3enland593 Жыл бұрын
@@Baised-_-Rin yo tokyo ghoul pfp
@Grayson-Winchester
@Grayson-Winchester 2 жыл бұрын
Mappa owns the dark trio. The studio will make them glorious, I'm sure of it. I don't think Hell's Paradies anime will air this year. Chainsawman was sooner on Mappa's production and people are hyped for part 2 of the manga already. It's funny if you think about it : Jujutsu Kaisen is ongoing Chainsawman is entering its 2nd phase Hell's Paradies already ended and really good
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
It’s going to be crazy seeing all these goated series being adapted
@forsakenparadise6828
@forsakenparadise6828 2 жыл бұрын
I think people will like the faster pace and it will only need 2-3 season for everything to air so hyped
@DBD_Dan
@DBD_Dan Жыл бұрын
Hells paradise is here gangy
@kenmaru777
@kenmaru777 Жыл бұрын
Jigokuraku looks amazing I cant wait to see wtf will happen holy shit
@gooseofthecosmos2805
@gooseofthecosmos2805 Жыл бұрын
I like how they the 3 authors are all aware of each other. Like Gege and Fujimoto have drawn each others characters before and Yuji worked with Fujimoto. Even if it is just small things like that it's quite wholesome to think about
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
It’s cool to see your peers succeed for sure. No signs of jealousy between them
@crystalpeaches7825
@crystalpeaches7825 Жыл бұрын
​@@WalkingTheShelf just like oda, kishimoto, and kubo!
@danielyu218
@danielyu218 2 жыл бұрын
Hells paradise should be as popular as the other mangas. It has a really good story
@peggedyourdad9560
@peggedyourdad9560 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished it and I now hope the anime does it justice. Luckily it has MAPPA working on it so unless some, catastrophic cosmic event happens, it should be amazing. RIP Fuchi, he was one of my faves, I also love Gabimuru's character lol. Actually, all the characters are awesome who am I kidding.
@strayjoker
@strayjoker 2 жыл бұрын
As an artist I honestly find JJK to have the best art because of it's messiness and use of ink, I also like the character design the best and I love how he draws hands. Although when it comes to the story I put Chainsaw first, it's taking 3rd place among the three of them in terms of art style.
@kufre4493
@kufre4493 Жыл бұрын
agreed the art style is perfect in my eyes, the art in jjk was really good especially in hidden inventory
@jtris01
@jtris01 Жыл бұрын
If I were to describe it, CSM's art feels as if the characters are "posing" for a picture.
@billy658
@billy658 Жыл бұрын
Disagree about art style. I find JJK and Jigo art style the most common for shounen manga. Some action panels looks rather like seinen than shounen. And the main thing: the way Fujimoto's panels convey emotions
@lelouchvibritannia7647
@lelouchvibritannia7647 Жыл бұрын
@@billy658 this. As a fellow artist, Fujimoto brings his art life to his and idk how he does it😂
@kenmaru777
@kenmaru777 Жыл бұрын
Chainsawman has greatest emotion expression Jjk and jigo try to show characters in goofy way by making a chibi and cartoonish faces When its impossible to do in csm Thats why anime looks like a cinema As an artist too, Tatsuki Fujimoto draws godly, by just 2-3 lines he can easily show most human like emotion Read his other works pls Fire Punch is goat
@nitinpriyadarshi269
@nitinpriyadarshi269 2 жыл бұрын
All three of these series will definitely help the usual shonen anime/manga make a new turn. My personal favourite is Chainsaw Man and it's also the one I'm most engaged in. Haven't read Hell's Paradise yet but after watching the trailer now I will. Great video btw.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the comment man 👍🏻, you definitely gotta check out hell’s paradise
@Mr.BluePants
@Mr.BluePants 2 жыл бұрын
It's super cool that the Dark Shonen Trio anime's might actually air simultaneously, with both Chainsaw Man and Hell's Paradise airing later this year and JJK season 2 seemingly early 2023. On top of that they'll also be airing alongside their "daddy", Bleach. :3
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly all this just has me excited for the future of the industry
@Stryfe52
@Stryfe52 Жыл бұрын
MAPPA employees in the trenches bro
@spencerkenney8279
@spencerkenney8279 Жыл бұрын
Ay hol up, only JJK takes inspiration from Bleach, Hell’s Paradise takes from Vagabond and Chainsaw takes from elsewhere
@Mr.BluePants
@Mr.BluePants Жыл бұрын
@@spencerkenney8279 Hells Paradise also takes heavy inspiration from Bleach, 100%. One panel is even almost a carbon copy of the kid Kenpachi panel from TYBW... Or you could chalk it up to a coincidence...
@Serocco
@Serocco Жыл бұрын
@@spencerkenney8279 All three are influenced by Bleach. Hell's Paradise has a very strong push and pull dynamic over life and death, CSM's masked devils are Vasto Lorde class Hollows, the sword play of JJK and HP, etc
@IAintGonnaDrawHeliohi
@IAintGonnaDrawHeliohi Жыл бұрын
I find CSM as being something in between two polar opposites. It's tone is so happy-go-lucky and then it get crazy dark quickly 😂. It takes on the common anime troupes of Shounen and Fan Service anime and broke it down to its own madness. You could get some Shounen moments in the show and then there will be the deep philosophical Seinen themes being explored like Ignorance. The story is so downright sad about Denji's origin and his needs that it feels real 😅. I've yet to read Jigokuraku, but artwork looks neat. As about JJK, I found it to be one of the best additions to Power System animes. The Power System is so well defined and not bound by the usual boundaries of 4 elements. Definitely, it requires a seat in Throne of Heroes alongside Nen, Stands, and some other.
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 2 жыл бұрын
I pick CSM as the best of the trio. Unlike most "shonen" Chainsaw has the guts to go places normal shonen would never go before and never will. Frankly it is the only Shonen title I love right now. I just hope part 2 doesn't over stay its welcome.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
The other 2 definitely push that boundary as well. If you haven’t, give the other 2 a shot
@lix1806
@lix1806 2 жыл бұрын
The other 2 do too. Maybe Not as extreme as csm but still do
@chrison4k177
@chrison4k177 Жыл бұрын
Nah now that they all released I think hells paradise the best like the first is way better than both jjk and csm first episodes and mainly cause it was psychological but it gets you hooked first episode and the second is just a eye opener
@chrison4k177
@chrison4k177 Жыл бұрын
And csm really don’t shock people cause the whole world was just spoiling that shit and most viewers read it so hells paradise is like a fresh breath
@kenmaru777
@kenmaru777 Жыл бұрын
Bru its seinen: 18-40year Shonen is for 12-17
@svenlechtenberg8119
@svenlechtenberg8119 2 жыл бұрын
JJK goated at this point🤷🏾‍♂️ and as an artist myself jjks art is the best in years cause of the feelings it brings to the reader, but what people mean when they say it's bad or not as good, is that it's not as refined as other art
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
What really makes JJKs art great is the attention to detail author puts in. Incredible effort pays off
@svenlechtenberg8119
@svenlechtenberg8119 2 жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf facts
@junemay7140
@junemay7140 2 жыл бұрын
Imo jjk has amazing fight scenes in the manga because of the art, at times some scenes may seem sketchy or messy but the fights that gege draws never fail to impress me example the fight with choso and yuji, gojo vs Hanami, jogo, and choso, yuta vs uro plus that other guy and etc.
@zephaniahdejene1746
@zephaniahdejene1746 2 жыл бұрын
I'd put jjk at top because as dark as it gets it never was "too dark" it balanced the classic shonen flavor with the edgy dark dressing at the top best out of the three. I'm in noway saying it's perfect but on a personal level I enjoyed it most, I loved the character designs of chainsaw man and hells paradise as stated in the video was perfectly timed, it had the smoothest climax curves I've seen in anime and manga
@bandi642
@bandi642 Жыл бұрын
finally i heard a lot of people mocking chainsawman art style thinking its bad and unrefined but, i love it so much and it emotionally touches me like no other artstyle
@danielmorales8716
@danielmorales8716 2 жыл бұрын
Hells Paradise is top tier in every aspect
@yogi.g
@yogi.g Жыл бұрын
Considering where jjks story is going now, I definitely feel like your opinions have changed on the ranking. I haven't read chainsaw man, but right now I would put jjk above hells paradise in a heartbeat.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
JJK is on top right now. I really like chainsaw man part 2 but it hasn’t really hit any insane strides yet
@uraharakisuke1329
@uraharakisuke1329 Жыл бұрын
I just caught up with Jujutsu Kaisen and I loved it. Our of the manga I have read so far (which isn't a crazy amount) it's my second favourite. Now this video pops up and you just inspired me to check the other two out.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
It’s a top 5 shonen for me. I wouldn’t blame someone for putting it as their #1
@kolja4633
@kolja4633 2 жыл бұрын
Love that mainstream shonen start to take a darker tone because I really like this kinda edgy storys and love too see that other people enjoy them as well Also hyped for csm part 2 and did u read the look back one shot i think it's pretty good
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the look back short story. Such a small enjoyable read
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy might not the right word, maybe entertaining?
@kolja4633
@kolja4633 2 жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf true probably fits better
@yaryirauri6251
@yaryirauri6251 2 жыл бұрын
Both bleach n naruto were dark
@kingaqua908
@kingaqua908 Жыл бұрын
@@yaryirauri6251 Not on the level of any of the Dark Trio when it comes to being dark
@Starkk7078
@Starkk7078 Жыл бұрын
My opinion: Best story: hell paradise Best cast: jjk Best fight: jjk Best artstyle: csm Overall: jjk
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
I’d actually agree on every one of these points at this point in time. (My opinions may have changed a lot since this video came out. JJK has improved so much in my eyes)
@Alex-zb1vf
@Alex-zb1vf Жыл бұрын
I love yuji kaku and fujimoto's work especially csm and jigokuraku so it pains me seeing some of their other works like fire punch being less talked about or ayashimon getting canceled due to unknown reasons
@JB-nl3xy
@JB-nl3xy Жыл бұрын
Those aren't really unknown reasons. It simply wasn't popular enough, that's all there is to it
@river2653
@river2653 Жыл бұрын
Love the dark trio but the one I'm having the most fun with and enjoying is CHAINSAW MAN. fr this is the one manga I have read multiple times and I still do go back read part 1 often lmaoo.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
Part 1 is amazing. I’ve put off part 2 while I’m reading other stuff, but I’m excited to let the chapters build up and binge through it
@AnonFaux2244
@AnonFaux2244 Жыл бұрын
Jjk has good art. It’s better for action sequences and most one shot reactions. The scattered lines and whatnot help display movement and makes the fight scene easier to translate into one’s imagination as opposed to the straight connected lines that form a solid picture in your mind and make you see what is what. There’s no fluidity or imaginative movement behind solid bold outlines/panels.
@joecorpus1725
@joecorpus1725 Жыл бұрын
I just read hells paradise and I feel it is as good as the other two.
@lizardrain2918
@lizardrain2918 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like sukuna is such a great villian its just a shame he doesnt get that much time. But other than that when he does appear he is my #1 villian he is so evil its actually funny
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
I like him a lot. Of the inner demon troupe characters he’s the only one that’s genuinely evil
@therealslimshady6763
@therealslimshady6763 Жыл бұрын
But he is also not like too down bad like playing tricks and stuff mostly cause he Gojo Strong
@ojodeoro1106
@ojodeoro1106 Жыл бұрын
i love hells paradise. it has become my favorite manga of all time and i hope the anime pops off
@ripdito
@ripdito Жыл бұрын
i believe it will be bigger in time due to the 2d animation and better naruto vibe 🤣
@KingKhupacabra
@KingKhupacabra 2 жыл бұрын
Csm is my fav out of the three. But Hell’s paradise has the best world setting in terms of looks and csm has the best world building, I mean look at part 2, it’s still ongoing and we don’t rlly know the history of devils rlly and the four-horse men in proper depth. The system of devils is rlly captivating. JJK is okay I stopped at the shuyiba arc, I was busy at the time. The art is not that good imo. Story wise it’s decent. Hell’s paradise, at first I stopped reading it at ch30 but picked it up and it was amazing however the ending was a bit rushed imo still good tho. The art is phenomenal like rlly.also is csm the art is so rough yet so meticulous it fits the ambience. Storytelling of csm is deep which I appreciate with all the crazy and sad moments in the manga, when u re read it. So yh
@welltorium
@welltorium Жыл бұрын
crazy to think all 3 of them would be animated by the same studio
@jigui2669
@jigui2669 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding the art of these manga, chansaw man is by far the most beautiful, no questions asked. That said, CSM and hell's paradise struggle to compete with fight visual clarity compared to jjk. The fights in jjk are so well drawn and creative!
@SleeplessBrazilLimbo
@SleeplessBrazilLimbo Жыл бұрын
tbh i started jigoruaku because someone called gabimaru schizofrenic and that was like, strange to hear so everytime gabimaru would think of his wife and be questioned, i asked myself if this wife was actually real and not a person he created himself to survive, amnesia or MPD? it was really great and kept me on my toes regarding the story
@paocut9018
@paocut9018 Жыл бұрын
Funny because the anime adaptations of all three are being made by the same studio, MAPPA. And so far I gotta say, damn they are doing a fine job with all of em
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
I know them animators are getting worked rn but they’re absolutely cooking
@Numb_Stoic
@Numb_Stoic Жыл бұрын
The dark trio is finally animated 🔥
@markusharroldhailey6688
@markusharroldhailey6688 Жыл бұрын
my dude Tenza is the best boi in Jigokuraku, dude fighting spirit is just really on another level.
@TheKingxj
@TheKingxj Жыл бұрын
Yup Hell's Paradise is top notch, each characters backstory beautifully interwoven.
@mememe131199
@mememe131199 Жыл бұрын
I really need to start reading Hell's Paradise.
@Fluminox-
@Fluminox- 11 ай бұрын
Jigokuraku has finally aired and it pains me to say the production wasn't quite the best. But the first few episodes looked spectacular. Here hoping season 2 will be JJK and CSM level
@aburakuma4600
@aburakuma4600 2 жыл бұрын
Chainsaw Man is my favorite out of the three, but I'd ranked Hell's Paradise above Chainsaw Man. pretty interesting you ranked CSM over HP 🤔
@aburakuma4600
@aburakuma4600 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Hell Yeah! I thought the same! CSM's art is my favorite out of the three, and I think it's the best too.
@aburakuma4600
@aburakuma4600 2 жыл бұрын
aight I understand why you would rank CSM over HP, I agree that the villains aren't as fleshed out that much (except Tao Fa and Ju Fa)
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
Both are really close. I rate them the same out of 10 so the rest is just up to personal preference. The ranking in the future depends on how good chainsaw man shippuden is
@yourleftacrylicpinkynail7270
@yourleftacrylicpinkynail7270 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. You did really well explaining the hype for all three series. I was mainly excited about JJK but will definitely check out the other two series.
@GenericProtagonist118
@GenericProtagonist118 Жыл бұрын
Wait... a shonen protagonist that has a wife that he loves... *From the beginning?* What kind a of odd backwards universe does that manga come from and how do I get there???
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
Such a breath of fresh air
@crusiver8453
@crusiver8453 2 жыл бұрын
There's only one problem with Hell's Paradise (for me). The Lord Tengan fights are pretty long. When they bloom and become the Kaiju it often time feel as though it's dragging on.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
I can see that. Lord Tengan and pretty much all the other antagonists were pretty mediocre, not terrible, just pretty bland
@Jonas-jx3kw
@Jonas-jx3kw 2 жыл бұрын
lol i mean that is because lord tensen are supposed to be strong use your brain the fights vs lord tensen are perfect
@zemox2534
@zemox2534 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jonas-jx3kw Also the true villain actually has a decent motivation and is not bloody weak.
@frog6054
@frog6054 Жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf The story as a whole is mediocre in my opinion, but the lore is awesome.
@thetrollofanime9842
@thetrollofanime9842 Жыл бұрын
My favourite is hell paradise because the story, the cover,the pace and the art also
@user-eo1se3xx2p
@user-eo1se3xx2p Жыл бұрын
love the video bro, keep making great stuff!
@therealrouges2341
@therealrouges2341 2 жыл бұрын
Jigokuraku is undoubtely the best of the three, and the fact is the least known is a confirmation of that. Chainsaw Man is really good, maybe a bit to edgy just for the sake of being edgy but still solid. JJK finds its peak in the Shibuya Arc and Yuji Extermination Arc, which are two of the best recent Jump arcs, but then it gets so worse that I can't even say if it's right to still consider it a good enough manga
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the whole “least known = best” notion, but I can respect liking hell’s paradise the most.
@thegrimreaper950
@thegrimreaper950 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious jjk easily clears and terrible opinion on the recent arcs lol
@kufre4493
@kufre4493 Жыл бұрын
@zeldris_2714 very ridiculous take
@tbhkenthusiast
@tbhkenthusiast Жыл бұрын
Jigokuraku is the best out of dark trio but not because its the least popular. The writing of its characters&overall plot are just better imo. I could definitely see it being on the same level as jjk in terms of popularity
@frog6054
@frog6054 Жыл бұрын
I find the story of hell's paradise to be alright at best. Haven't read the other two yet.
@mrcbenton1
@mrcbenton1 Жыл бұрын
"Dark Trio" is a great name! Shit hard AF
@HappyFishy699
@HappyFishy699 Жыл бұрын
I've read jjk and chainsaw man. Might as well read hells paradise
@salvador1683
@salvador1683 Жыл бұрын
Mappa be like: you get an anime! and you get an anime!
@piki1325
@piki1325 Жыл бұрын
all 3 animated by same studio
@icantthinkofagoodnameso1954
@icantthinkofagoodnameso1954 Жыл бұрын
My only knowledge of JJK is the anime so i won't be having an opinion of it as of now but have read the other 2. Here are my rankings between HP and CSM: *Character writing/depth:* HP, i think even the side characters, even the one who are killed off are fantastic and go through some sort of progression or development. *Art:* CSM, some panels are just crazy and reminds me of Berserk at times with how chaotic yet detailed a 1 page panel can be. Hp is fine but some of the panels are hard to comprehend at times because of how messy it is. *Story/plot:* HP, i think the plot is simple yet well handled and really is the reason a lot of characters shine and get polished out because they're all working towards the main goal in the plot. *Pacing and execution of overall premise and themes:* honestly i have got to go with both, they're both well paced and execute the themes they want to portray pretty much perfectly. HP's philosophy of seeing one's weakness as strength is handled well and is reflected well in the characters without feeling too much of a drag or too undefined. CSM's themes are reflected very well in denji, the feeling of emptiness when you don't have a good goal or purpose in life and the trauma of being controlled and the effect that losing people you care for have on you, fujimoto does it very subtly but you can see especially in part 2 that denji is quite changed despite how immature he acts he definitely has grown as a person and it felt very well placed in the perfect moments without it being too jarring or out of character for denji. *Personal favourite:* CSM, although HP has a great ending and is a solid 7.5-8/10 to me but that's basically it for HP while CSM has a lot more potential since it hasn't ended yet and is a longer series overall. I haven't read JJK but i have heard good things, mainly about Shibuya arc and culling games or whatever but not much else from that so since i know nothing about where that'll be placed in my personal rankings.
@Cereal_Sauce_
@Cereal_Sauce_ Жыл бұрын
Jigokuraku's anime is looking SO good, also I can't stop listening to the op in the trailer
@epicanime009
@epicanime009 2 жыл бұрын
Me personally what i like better between Hell's paradise and cem changes depending how i feel any given day. But both jjk and csm are still ongoing so they could prolyl surpass eventually
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
That’s fair. Hell’s paradise ended at the perfect time, I can only hope CSM and JJK do the same
@epicanime009
@epicanime009 2 жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf yeah i have confidence in fujimoto for part 2. Gege im a little unsure of cause supposedly its supposed to wrap up next year and theres a lot to cover but the culling games been great so far and he gave me no signifigant reason to doubt him.
@sumbae7668
@sumbae7668 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. I think jujutsu kaisen has great art. Especially the way sensei draws the hands. Very unique and powerful strokes.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
I don’t think we disagree, I’m pretty sure I said the art was good. Been a while since I recorded this video though
@kunalthaf760
@kunalthaf760 Жыл бұрын
I loved hell's paradise... I'm missing gabimaru.
@mih_chayan8900
@mih_chayan8900 Жыл бұрын
Out of the 3 CSM and JJK have the best villains .
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
Makima is great but I honestly think both Sukuna and Kenjaku are better by a decent margin.
@mih_chayan8900
@mih_chayan8900 Жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf i agree
@tbhkenthusiast
@tbhkenthusiast Жыл бұрын
hells paradise is the best out of the 3 imo. this could change since jjk and csm aren't finished ofc
@hotaru5994
@hotaru5994 Жыл бұрын
Hell's Paradise is so underrated
@saitama53034
@saitama53034 Жыл бұрын
As of now I'll rank them as Jjk manga insane rn> csm part 2 is slow and is building up characters for now > hell's paradise
@FoundingKaren
@FoundingKaren Жыл бұрын
Thank god someone talked about Naruto leaving behind my favorite characters who were so important before shippuden happened
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
Neji, Lee, Sai, Yamato, and pretty much anybody from part 1 that wasn't team 7 all got shafted pretty bad.
@clementchung919
@clementchung919 Жыл бұрын
I personally never read Hell's Paradise, but what sets Chainsawman apart from a lot of shonen is that there are no definitive power scaling. It allows the story to go for plot twist that you can never think of. It gives the series a unique feel and makes fight more "unpredictable" than JJK altho I do feel JJK has much better art since CSM feels very hand-drawn and scribbly.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
Interesting take because Most people seem to prefer Chainsaw man’s art.
@clementchung919
@clementchung919 Жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf Not most - there is definitely quite some people in the comment who prefered the clearer and crisper edges of jjk. The common argument is that CSM has better page layout but page layout does not equal to the art as it is simply a creative formatting. Can it make the art more readable and lifelike? Definitely. But does it make you admire each panel more? Not exactly.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
@@clementchung919 in general most prefer chainsaw man; in fact Gege is one of the most criticized mangaka in terms of his art. Fujimoto's artistic style as well as his paneling received a ton of praise before the adaption for chainsaw man was ever announced. So I'm going to have to hard disagree with your statement.
@clementchung919
@clementchung919 Жыл бұрын
​@@WalkingTheShelf I'll admit that its hard for me to validate my points because can you actually gather actual statistics on opinions and can you actually trust what you're seeing when algorithmns exist in social media to pinpoint those with similar viewpoints? But I don't deny that these criticisms exist as I've seen them altho a lot less for me to feel its the general readers. Its about preference I suppose - I honestly don't feel that JJK's art is that much worse than Chainsawman as in you're implying how some people feel, but I don't disagree that there is a large group out there that feels that.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
@@clementchung919 Sorry for the confusion but I wasn’t trying to imply JJK is worse. I was just saying JJK has a very rough kind of sketchy art style. Blade of the immortal is similar in that sense, and blade of the immortal is one of my favorite manga artistically of all time. It all comes down to preference at the end of the day
@xboxclown8922
@xboxclown8922 5 ай бұрын
JJK is the least constant with the most problems. I easily could do an entire rant on that it's not great. Hell's Paradise is truly amazing work. It's deeply underrated, I'm inspired after reading all of the story. Chainsaw Man in a few major areas I felt quickly became my favorite of the Dark Trio. I do prefer the Dark Trio over the Big 3 but I still respect them. Chainsaw Man is very inspiring stuff with some characters working way better than expected.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 5 ай бұрын
I’m assuming you meant consistent and not constant. I do disagree with that take quite a bit, JJK has plenty of problems but I don’t think consistency is one of them. I can’t remember how I ranked these series but I’d put JJK at #1 given the state of each series at the moment.
@xboxclown8922
@xboxclown8922 5 ай бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf I did use the wrong word lol thanks. For me JJK's later half made some huge mistakes I can't ignore. I confess it's a little overrated with everything considered. JJK is basically Bleach 2.0 just not as good. Bleach made mistakes as well but I felt it lives up to it's potential more.
@Mysterybabylon696
@Mysterybabylon696 Жыл бұрын
I agree chainsaw man's action panels flowed very well.
@spencerkenney8279
@spencerkenney8279 Жыл бұрын
I would go as far as to say that Chainsaw Man only focuses on three characters. Power is important and vital to Denji’s character arc, but this was not her story the way it was for Denji, Aki and Makima
@katsuoft7408
@katsuoft7408 Жыл бұрын
So? That's just a normal thing in Shonen, it's always 2 or 3 main characters, and maybe a 4th main character, but 2 of them always stand out and rarely 3, that happens in Dragon Ball, Naruto, Jujutsu Kaisen, etc.
@spencerkenney8279
@spencerkenney8279 Жыл бұрын
@@katsuoft7408 ok!
@ChimeraLotietheBunny
@ChimeraLotietheBunny Жыл бұрын
Hope that anime Hell's paradise to get better...love the dark trio so much man
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
I’ve still gotta watch the first ep. I was hoping it would be on Hulu
@matheusbellini9461
@matheusbellini9461 Жыл бұрын
I know only jjk and Hells paradise, havent read the manga of CM but Im watching the anime. I honestly think Hells paradise is the best one till now, will have to wait until the other 2 are completed so I can have a better opinion
@roadrunneruntd
@roadrunneruntd Жыл бұрын
It's got the old school shonen feel. Antiquated setting , religious / cultural themes , fellowship/ family being a big theme too. I love all three equally ,easily my top 3 new age manga/ anime
@crystalpeaches7825
@crystalpeaches7825 Жыл бұрын
i was gonna ask "ok wb tokyo ghoul" but then i remembered that one is actually seinen lol
@iwoso
@iwoso Жыл бұрын
JJK art is the reason i started art and i reread and wanted to make a manga
@xsisterxwickedx
@xsisterxwickedx Жыл бұрын
Dark is a tag-on often used alongside other genre terms. So I think Dark Trio is apt since it's the shared genre tag between these three.
@jesushuerta6158
@jesushuerta6158 2 жыл бұрын
look my take on the big three is just to say that muring their time those were the top three highest rated anime/manga
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not measurable. It’s just something people in the west came up with, it’s social perception
@vivanpprock5372
@vivanpprock5372 Жыл бұрын
I really felt like i could get more attaxhed to the characters of hell's paradise compared to chainsawman in the story
@trevpilled
@trevpilled Жыл бұрын
Hells paradise is getting the short end of the stick anime wise too
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard. Very unfortunate
@hhiieeuu8130
@hhiieeuu8130 Жыл бұрын
the fact that all of these are adapted by mappa
@sunflowersamurai10
@sunflowersamurai10 Жыл бұрын
CSM > Hells paradise > jjk Parts 2 of CSM is fucking nuts
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
Idk if you’re caught up on JJK, but the most recent chapters are insane
@sunflowersamurai10
@sunflowersamurai10 Жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf ive only seen the anime, but ive been spoiled for some events... sukuna is wild
@xiiir838
@xiiir838 Жыл бұрын
I don't see anything in Part 2 or the most recent JJK to be notable. Both are still building up to something greater, but what is currently shown is nothing special
@tridi9313
@tridi9313 Жыл бұрын
​@@WalkingTheShelf yep the 212 and later on is fucking crazy
@5pixg406
@5pixg406 Жыл бұрын
A tier list for the dark trio would be Jjk Chainsaw Man Hells paradise. But I love all of them (didn’t read hells paradise though) and they are very close on the list
@blackjack30
@blackjack30 Жыл бұрын
why do you say "i love them all" when you havent even read hells paradise lmao you cant have an opinion on something you don't know
@yuukeii
@yuukeii Жыл бұрын
The Dark Trio's writing is absolutely beautiful. The depth, the foreshadowings and the art styles are amazing and meet AOTs standards. Their writing is perfect especially with writing gender, women aren't just purely their to be objectified and fan service. The womans sex appeal adds depth and are actually strong written women with backstories and strength
@loni1771
@loni1771 Жыл бұрын
Aot‘s writing is trash. All 3 manga in the dark trio are better
@WildArtistsl
@WildArtistsl Жыл бұрын
Dark Trio? I didn't know they were called that. Personally I like all three of them but I really not a huge fan. Im still waiting for that manga to hook me
@lordofpixels0623
@lordofpixels0623 Жыл бұрын
And all three of the animes are animated by studio Mappa! Coincidence? I think not!
@KawaiiRuby
@KawaiiRuby Жыл бұрын
Mappa is really the goat right now theyre pumping out amazing manga adaptations left and right and they’re making all the right decisions. Although I feel for the animators since they must be overworked at this point
@dylandang7365
@dylandang7365 Жыл бұрын
And they are all animated by MAAPA
@harsyakiarraathallah2222
@harsyakiarraathallah2222 11 ай бұрын
the Godfather: Yu Yu Hakusho, the Inspiration. the Father: Bleach, the Icon. the Elder Bro: Hell's Paradise Jigokuraku, the Artistic. the Middle Bro: Jujutsu Kaisen, the Star. the Younger Bro: Chainsaw Man, the Dog.
@quadeccca9151
@quadeccca9151 Жыл бұрын
A year later I’d say that jjk is in top of a lot of things now. Personally csm hasn’t been that interesting lately, don’t get me wrong part 2 is good but it doesn’t hit the same. Currently reading hells paradise and so far I like it. My ranking for these three series as a whole would probably be: jjk, csm and hells paradise. Protagonist wise I’d say: denji, Yuji(it’s close between Yuji and denji) and then gabimaru. Deuteragonist: Sagiri(I really like her character so far), Aki and then Megumi. Antagonist I’d say: Makima, Kenny/sukuna and then hells paradise (I haven’t gotten far enough to meet the antagonist yet) And for artstyle I’d say: jjk(i love how gege draws hands and his fight choreography) HP and then csm Hells paradise is kinda of hard to judge for me as I haven’t read all of it but I do like it.
@quadeccca9151
@quadeccca9151 Жыл бұрын
Also kinda funny how they’re all animated by mappa
@EinherjarV
@EinherjarV Жыл бұрын
0:12 that is True the big 3 shonen of the 2000's were indeed Naruto, Bleach and, One Piece. I consider the secrete 4th Gintama. The Big 3 Seinen were/are Berserk, Kingdom, and Vagabond.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t really consider a secret 4th to be a thing tbh. There’s not a common sentiment on there even being a 4th, let alone what it would be. I’ve seen so many people say that fairy tale should’ve been big 3 so they consider it the secret 4th. this is probably the first time I’ve heard someone suggest Gintama. I’ve also seen people talk about a seinen big 3 which is a similar situation to the “secret 4th”. I’ve seen Vinland Saga in more of the seinen big 3’s than Kingdom (which would make sense because the anime big 3 is a western concept to begin with)
@thatrarebear
@thatrarebear Жыл бұрын
What I really like about the dark trio is that it's very reflective of the current generation of teenagers and how they feel. I think the edginess, tragedy, and irony is something that a lot of teenagers face nowadays and is the reason why these manga's were so sucessful
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
Edgy stories have been super present since the 80s and 90s, I think series like JJK and Chainsaw Man move away from that. It’s not about making an edgy narrative because it’s cool, it’s about crafting a tragic tale while having hopeful elements that help emphasize the tragedy. Maybe that sounds pretentious but that’s my interpretation
@JoeShoesAreComfy
@JoeShoesAreComfy Жыл бұрын
And Mappa legit got all of them lmao
@Fanbter
@Fanbter Жыл бұрын
i seen all three, but i like HP the most
@PrimarisGreyKnight
@PrimarisGreyKnight Жыл бұрын
The dark big three of the modern era
@ObsidianSnow16
@ObsidianSnow16 Жыл бұрын
Damn I’m late the first ep of hells paradise just became animated so I’m trynna get all the information I can get. Don’t worry ima still read the manga
@impidimp9331
@impidimp9331 2 жыл бұрын
We have the big 3, we have the Dark Trio. And we also Have the MOST ANNOYING SOUNDED TRIO WITH ASTA'S SHOUTING, DEKU'S CRYING AND TANJIRO'S BSNESS. JK
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
I never really found anything annoying about tanjiro tbh. I can def see the other 2 though 😂
@RJ-xg7xw
@RJ-xg7xw 2 жыл бұрын
Tanjiro is just samurai Jesus
@laranjanegociadora9877
@laranjanegociadora9877 Жыл бұрын
Asta stops shouting that bad after ep 4, deku idk i didnt watch mha and tanjiro... oh god I HATE the "funny parts" in demon slayer they look like a cartoon made for 4 yo kids and tanjiro doesnt help at all hes just the "good hearted boy" without much moments where he actually show's development
@ramagopalkrishnan1251
@ramagopalkrishnan1251 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I hate chainsaw man. The manga just went so out of control for me that I don't look forward to the new Saga Or season 2 of the anime. But this video has given me the motivation to start Hell's paradise and catch up with jjk manga.
@syntaxsafety
@syntaxsafety Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I found Chainsaw Man easier to understand than Hell's Paradise, but I think they're both great stories anyway.
@y_e_s_L
@y_e_s_L Жыл бұрын
Jjk got boring fast in the manga i don't even know if the part I'm in is the past or present or a memory or side story bruh Finished csm and hell's paradise
@laskinslt7137
@laskinslt7137 Жыл бұрын
You had to you THAT panel for Makima huh? smh
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
Bang
@Sushan1
@Sushan1 Жыл бұрын
Hell's Paradise is awesome 😎
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
A modern classic
@Sushan1
@Sushan1 Жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf can't disagree 😁👍
@user-rh1kt3pq2s
@user-rh1kt3pq2s Жыл бұрын
the dark trio is the coolest (first time hearing it) name tho
@finnvost9349
@finnvost9349 Жыл бұрын
lmao CSM does have a large cast of characters, but they never live long so it seems more focused XD
@arandomguy7747
@arandomguy7747 9 ай бұрын
1_csm 2_jjk 3_ĥells paradise In my opinion 🗿
@marlom7882
@marlom7882 2 жыл бұрын
I’m seriously getting annoyed at how hell’s paradise is getting snuffed. I mean to GOATmaru aka gabimaru the GOAT is one of the most stark contrast to any other shonen MC Also I’m pissed they changed his eyes from red to lime green
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
He’s going to be one of the most slept on protagonists even after the anime most likely. It’s unfortunate, kinda like Allen Walker
@marlom7882
@marlom7882 2 жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf yea it’s some bullshit well not our fault most people have shit taste but as everyone knows best stuff is underrated
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 2 жыл бұрын
@@marlom7882 a but condescending dont you think
@marlom7882
@marlom7882 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsjustvin7630 no how is it?
@itsjustvin7630
@itsjustvin7630 2 жыл бұрын
@@marlom7882 that if people didnt like what you like its cuz they have shit taste
@kenmaru777
@kenmaru777 Жыл бұрын
Please read Fire Punch Its best story I've ever read Easily covers all big dark trio
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
I’ve read it. I think it’s a great first manga for an author but I do think chainsaw man is an improvement.
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
@@kenmaru777 I love it fire punch don’t get me wrong. I just think it kinda stumbles at the start, towards the end and specifically the actual ending is what makes the manga amazing to me. I think that manga are about as deep as the person reading makes them. So I can respect if someone thinks fire punch is deeper than chainsaw man or vice Versa
@kenmaru777
@kenmaru777 Жыл бұрын
@@WalkingTheShelf haha, a lot of anitubers I know actually hate the ending 😅 They see in FP a idea of nihilism When I didn't thought about this ever while reading This is a best part Its so open for interpretation I read from comments about Agni losing his fire when his vengeance disappeared And his right arm (fir punch) disappeared too Also he recovers only when people say him to LIVE Anyway people would love love love ang video about this manga believe me So if you want to make it, we will be happy
@windowstechsupport3562
@windowstechsupport3562 Жыл бұрын
And they Are all animated rn😊
@malogor2127
@malogor2127 2 жыл бұрын
Hells paradise doesn't really fit in with the rest. It has a different tone, setting and also no plot points that connect it with the other two manga. It fits in way more with something like demon slayer than jjk or csm
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf 2 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree. The tone of hell’s Paradise is significantly closer to JJK/Chainsaw Man than demon slayer. The only aspect I agree with you on is that the setting is different.
@xiiir838
@xiiir838 Жыл бұрын
1. Hell's Paradise 2. Chainsaw Man 3. Sorcery Fight Hell's winning for me because It's already done, and all the story: argument, characters, designs in general, dialogue and the finale are top notch, maaaan that ending was so freaking good 👌 Plus, the magic system is the better of the three because it isn't just an energy that ONLY works to fight, as One Piece's haki, JJK cursed energy or the Naruto's jutsu. It goes deeper as a universal energy that has multiple applications, and that's very rare in battle shonen stories
@tmjs4545
@tmjs4545 Жыл бұрын
How the hell did man's have scenes from an ep that just dropped 😭
@matute93
@matute93 Жыл бұрын
I love the 3 of them, but I feel CSM is something else, it is my favourite manga of all time, and i've been into this hobby since 1997, it is hard to explain, it just feel too true to itself, and its message was really meaningful to me.
@kiriyuuuuu
@kiriyuuuuu Жыл бұрын
Damm i really wanted Tokito from chojin x to be apart of this but i allow gabimatu Maybe Tokito can join and we will create the phantom four
@killerdust1635
@killerdust1635 Жыл бұрын
Idk we'll have to see how much the dark trio lives up to the name, the reason the big 3 are the big 3 is because they were media defining series that set the president at the time. I can see an argument for chainsaw man being in that category do come time as it's super experimental and could open up doors to authors for story's we have never seen before, but I can't really see jjk or hells paradise having that impact. But then again influence doesn't have to be derived from the style, maybe all of these series will just build a culture of dark shonen. Definitely interested to see what the future of shonen has in store
@ok.8363
@ok.8363 Жыл бұрын
i hate that jigokuraku is so much less popular than the other two, cause imo its wayyy better than jjk and csm
@WalkingTheShelf
@WalkingTheShelf Жыл бұрын
They all rank about the same to me. Each offering something that the other manga don’t possess.
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