The David Hayter Incident Pt.1

[@Trtsq4680]

I have a feeling it was the wording of the tweet that really soured his mood. Not being hired for mgsv hit him pretty hard so seeing another person go “here’s why you don’t hire him to be snake” probably didn’t help anything. I get it was a joke but it was worded like an unironic statement, just saying

[@gregbrb]

You worded it like a kotaku article and its hard to get the full context from a piece of text and two photos so thats probably why

[@wk8323]

Not gonna lie saying it has made you skip the snake dialogue is just lame. Get over it. You obviously phrased your joke poorly and it came off as an insult when, as you said, Pedro Pascal was the actor set to play his character and you said he looks more like an overweight disliked celebrity. I’ve liked your other videos but this is a really lame thing to be so petty about

[@MKDumas1981]

Oscar Isaac*

[@battleandjams]

I don't think your "joke" was clear enough. Reading that tweet, I would assume that you're not a fan of Hayter and are also critiquing fans that just wish their fan cast would go through. I mean if you need a several minute long video to explain yourself, I don't think it's exactly transparent how tongue and cheek you are.

[@losingluke]

ong, if you insult someone, expect to get insulted back

[@defaultname7685]

@@losingluke​​⁠I feel like these are more symptoms of the greater endemic that we have as a society where hyper consumers are divorced from reality and don’t view people they see on tv just as “human” as they are or expect them to be automatons. Hatter could have very well been having a shitty day and to distract himself he flips through his phone to see a tweet basically calling him ugly going viral. Famous people are humans too. And if memory serves that was around MGSV too, he probably wasn’t feeling that great either. It’s like losing your job and then later that month someone makes a funny meme about how ugly you are now. I watched this video expecting it to eventually acknowledge the fuck up on his part and say it was a dickish thing to post and how it made him realize we take for granted how we engage people online yadda yadda and walk away with an interesting message. But no he really just made an 8 minute video complaining about how david hurt his feelings back after he made fun of the way david looked. Like he was the victim lol

[@Devixicus]

Your wording in the tweet is very insulting... like "you're WRONG for wanting this OLD GUY to be Snake". It's not the comparison that got him upset (actually maybe partially considering Gervais' general character), you were condescending about how to correctly handle somebody else's creative project. Plus it would definitely make sense to have an actor that age play him in MGS1 considering the accelerated aging they worked in later in the series.

[@omensoffate]

Oh man you had to make a video over this because you needed an echo chamber to make you feel better about yourself. Did mgs 2 not teach you anything

[@PaperStarship]

By commenting you are now part of my echo chamber. Prepare to be assimilated

[@KENSHIROez3260]

What I learn from this is 'miscommunication' can be brutally nasty and this just encourage me to do my best to avoid it

[@yaboyeloyofficial]

It does suck that he probably doesn’t like you much but personally I think it’s kinda cool, you did enough to get noticed and being remembered He sees a lot of fans at cons and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t remember a huge majority of them Not that it’s a bad thing cause I’m pretty sure every type of actor has that going for them since the world is such a huge place with huge population but YOU stood out enough ONLINE with like 60 followers to have the thought of him looking like Ricky Gervais implanted into his mind AND for him to go out of his way to see you and your profile and call you a dipshit I see it as a win Even though you’re blocked I’m pretty sure if you met in real life at a con, not only would he know who you are but would probably just brush it under the rug since it could easily be talked out But now, whenever Big Boss scrolls through the stand up section of Netflix and sees him He thinks of you

[@javi0usly]

I don't think it's that big of a deal, honestly. You've gotta consider that you tagged him in the tweet with unsolicited criticism about his appearance and as somewhat of a public figure, it's understandable that he wouldn't have much tolerance for strangers insulting him, even if that wasn't your intent. This interaction shouldn't ruin your ability to enjoy the games. It was a misunderstanding and it's fine.

[@ItalianJoe83]

Imagine Ricky Gervais' voice being overlapped over David Hayter's via Artificial Intelligence in real time while playing Metal Gear Solid games: that would be the perfect solution to your problem.

[@illitero]

"Wot!? Met-ol Geah!?"

[@satanamogila9251]

Go back to the whole you crawled from, Joe. For a special reason

[@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929]

The issue here is you really didn't word it as a joke and the internet doesn't really work for getting jokes across. And you tagged him in it so he had every right to respond. As far as he knew you could have just been someone that would troll him after the dm. Better for him to just respond how he wants and leave it at that. Is it cool? No. Did you deserve it? Not really. Oh well

[@Lol8922]

Eeehh... perhaps it was a bit too much to block you but cut the guy some slack, he was taken aback by a badly toned tweet. This shouldn't sour MGS for you, seperate art from artist. Solid Snake is Solid Snake.

[@ryuzxa]

The tweet sounds like you're mocking him, like "You dont look like Snake anymore" when David saw that tweet he thought you were talking about him being not in MGSV. That's my opinion tho

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

I think the "now" and the last sentence were the nail(s) in the coffin. If nothing else, talk to him. Clear the air. Can't let these emotions fester and boil. It may get worse. It may get better. You never know.

[@meisteralonne7991]

Keep your head high, king, i know how that feels. And, unfortunately, yeah, that's how most social media interactions go... You just post something, just a meme that isn't supposed to be taken seriously, and then BOOM, blocked. And, honestly, it's sad that talking through the blue bird app just ends like that, like, when did we just stopped having a sense of humor and get offended by everything?

[@Pensive_Scarlet]

That's depressing. It's ironic, the MGS games he didn't voice are a sore spot for him, and now he's made the MGS games he *did* voice a sore spot for one of his fans. I would have thought he had more of an understanding of the kind of influence he has over people who respect and admire him.

[@defaultname7685]

dude he called him ugly wtf did you expect

[@Wozat-is8it]

​@@defaultname7685 He didn't call him ugly, he called him old, and old doesn't equal ugly. David overreacted, terrible response from him.

[@Danny-et9cz]

I don't know how I found this video but I'm high as shit and enjoying the video. Good job.🎉

[@DanT12204]

Same my brother same

[@halcyondazedd]

Are you both me?

[@adamhearts9195]

same. but all mgs content is good content

[@don2nd650]

Man the internet is a fkin sad but also useful place

[@ffnovice7]

Is it really? Useful?

[@masnidebelicrnac]

@@ffnovice7 yes is is hella useful but it depends on how you use it.

[@corneliusbinklefredickbear9936]

The tweet is worded really badly it really does seem like a dig at him

[@Quagmyer13]

Bro tyvm for just sharing the story. I was reading some comments and gd ppl she do love ppl they don't know. Ty again for the vid love your retrospectives and never stop dude

[@JJ_Jack_Gittes]

Start playing MGS with Japanese Voice Actors to revitalize your love of the series.

[@suckassmork2972]

Akio Ostuka is my 2nd favorite voice of Snake. He even got to voice Venom in V.

[@Sleygar]

This is when David became the Hayter! *YEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!*

[@shayZero]

I saw your tweet. You arent wrong

[@zombierepublican]

Just because he’s famous doesn’t mean you can put them down and they can’t react. They are human too. It was clearly a dig at Hayter.

[@SalesmanWave]

It's pretty funny you're only reacting to comments that blindly agree with you, not saying Hayter is a saint, but making an entire video for this is even more petty.

[@PaperStarship]

Take it up with the community. I did a poll asking if ppl wanted a vid about it and overwhelmingly it was a yes🤷‍♂️. If anything the way I’m handling the negative comments is probably how Hayter should’ve handled my tweet. Just ignore it Dipshit😏🤣

[@SalesmanWave]

@@PaperStarship Ah yes, you see kids? This adult man is the paragon of maturity!

[@SalesmanWave]

@@PaperStarship I also guess I should have explained better,. You didn't interact with any of the comments actually trying to provide a reasonable explanation rather than just agreeing with you.

[@SalesmanWave]

​@@PaperStarshipAfter strolling back to this channel to see how it is, I seriously can't believe you were caught up on this for multiple fucking months.

[@theendofdays5311]

Dude. Calm down.. David Hayter is a public personnality and none should have this kind of reaction, even more if it's a fan. Insulting should never be an option. Also you are kind of answering your own comment now so chill out. This video allowed us to know that you should never expect too much of the people you would consider heroes in some sort.

[@azraelknightquest5754]

Two things, friend: 1. Tone is hard to tell over text. We use our imaginations to fill in the lack thereof. So it's very possible that your comment was taken in a very nasty and degrading tone. And to be honest, your comment WAS a bit douchey in any tone. 2. I didn't have this experience with David Hayter at all. But then, I didn't say something as nasty-looking as you did. I DID say something that was harsh towards Kiefer Sutherland to Hideo Kojima on Twitter in public, to which David Hayter DM'd me and said "Outrageous!" and when I apologized and asked David to forgive me, he told me "You do you, but that was harsh to say". He forgave me and even DM'd me a THIRD time, in response to me saying publicly "I just can't support Kiefer Sutherland being Big Boss, don't underestimate what your performance to me meant" and David said "Thanks man. Appreciate it". Admittingly, none of this was negative to him but David literally stood up for his replacement. He might just not like something he see's as excessively rude period. Bonus: He MIGHT have been trying for a part in the MGS movie, such as Big Boss or perhaps something else. So you might have been unintentionally doing something he saw as hurting his chances to get a part in the movie. It wasn't just the comparison to Ricky... your whole comment seemed less like a joke and more like a blatant mockery of him and fans that supported him being in the MGS movie. Again...tone is hard to tell over text.

[@RandomPinoyGamer]

Honestly, sucks for you fam. But realistically, that's f-in hilarious and I hope you'll end up laughing at this too. Cause damn. That's some funny sh seriously. :)))))

[@fuffilicious]

The one-hit-video wonder decided to make a video crying about getting the wrong type of attention of a VA when he was asking for said attention from them? That's quite special.

[@ImBigBoss_AndYouAreToo]

I would have thought bald white guy with white t shirt I thought of johnny sins

[@PaperStarship]

I got called Johnny Sins on stream about a month ago so you’re not too far off lol

[@ImBigBoss_AndYouAreToo]

@@PaperStarship lmao

[@losingluke]

nah bro you insulted him and he insulted back, L bozo

[@adamhearts9195]

It would be really nice if the community could get David to apologize,,, honestly it seems like a crappy situation and I'm sorry the games don't feel the same anymore

[@DirkMonroe]

Why would David apologize for this dipshit ruining the games for himself?

[@zion6680]

What lol, I'd rather be called Dipshit by Hayter than called Ricky Gervais xD Dipshit is clear cut, you get it. Being compared to Ricky Gervais can mean a lot of shit lol

[@adamhearts9195]

@@zion6680 that is the least of his worries,,, if just going to forget about everything else that happened after the fact

[@zion6680]

@@adamhearts9195 Sorry I didn't quite understand? What else happened afterwards, I don't really follow twitter at all? :o

[@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929]

@@zion6680 yeah all he did was call him a dipshit and block him. He didn't really do anything wrong

[@muhammeterdemakbulut]

kinda disappointed how this isn't a metal gear solid theory video about how all the other metal gear games other than MGS3-P.Ops-Peace Walker are a simulation.

[@PaperStarship]

Waiting for YOU to make that video so we can enjoy your theory 🫡.

[@muhammeterdemakbulut]

@@PaperStarship MGS2 and Ground Zeroes are confirmed as a simulation and Phantom Pain's backstory comes from Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain has a philosophy so similar to MGS2's philosophy I don't have much time to make a video about it but I'll give you more hints, ever wondered why Ground Zeroes was training Venom to be like Solid Snake instead of Big Boss? Do you ever wondered how Huey was able to invite XOF to motherbase with a f*cking letter himself? Or how Huey in peace walker is for sure feeling even more intelligent than Otacon but how MGSV Huey feels like a complete dumbass? Big Boss's best apperentice in lore who is Venom Snake got tons of shit on his body and miller lost his arm and leg when the helicopter got hit by a rocket but Big Boss is unharmed at all without a scratch? Also, let's not forget that so called Ishmael(Big Boss) didn't bleed at all when Quiet threw a knife at him. Hideo Kojima also confirmed the V in MGSV isn't 5 it's V also, Venom is called V in metal gear to a point it's one of his nicknames in Wiki.

[@zion6680]

Also there's a world of difference between comparing Hayter to that guy and then being compared to Mr.Clean, there's people who find that desirable. The only way you weren't a dipshit is if you genuinely like Ricky, and then you should've made that clear xD I don't think Hayter is in the wrong, he probably just didn't want to explain that to you, it's not a good argument for why what you did shouldn't be seen as sort of rude.

[@PaperStarship]

So it’s plausible to think Mr.Clean is good looking to people, but not Ricky Gervais? 🤔 Sounds like you’re being a hayter, bro.

[@random-dy8jt]

@@PaperStarship nice pun

[@zion6680]

@@PaperStarship Okay there's no good comeback to that xD

[@themanofconstantsorrowelia1929]

@@PaperStarship damn that's a good one

[@Toby_Kat]

Throwing MGS, Ricky Gervais, Home Movies, Dodgeball, Simpsons, etc all into a lil 8 minute video… You’re honestly such a cool fella :3

[@wausjackbauer128]

Has he unblocked you?

[@PaperStarship]

lol nah. I don’t expect him too. If I get to meet him at this MGS convention though it will be hilarious 😎

[@ezlmonqzy9650]

@@PaperStarship probably time to bury the hatchet ,never worth holding a grudge especially since our days are counted ,your joke is pretty funny

[@CR38]

... cmon dude, now you're both overreacting. he had enough of the comparisons and you are mad :D get over it

[@PaperStarship]

If you can’t realize from the very intro of the vid where I use a bad ai David Hayter voice to read a spoof of the mgs2 intro I am over it. As for not playing MGS anymore would you continue to support someone who thinks you’re a dipshit? This isn’t a vid saying he’s the worst or even that he doesn’t have a right to be mad. I thought it was a weird button I happened to push and was surprised and disappointed he couldn’t take a joke. Not saying my comment was a flowery compliment lol. As for why I even made a vid 2 years later. Bored and did a poll asking if ppl wanted a vid about the time David Hayter called me a dipshit on twitter. Ppl said yes and now the vid lives 🤷‍♂️ wasn’t sitting around going “yes it’s been two years. Now is the time to strike”😂

[@LordSpleach]

This shouldn't prevent you from enjoying the Metal Gear series. Don't let a bad interaction control you like the La li lu le lo. I wanna hear your thoughts on Guns of the Patriots still.

[@getsomesleepgaming740]

I’m on your side I met David hayter at comic con and he was kind of a dickhead. Still love the games though lmao

[@itssonotover961]

You deserved it

[@don2nd650]

Do mgsv video since it’s a different voice actor and different snake

[@TeagueisTrash]

probably in a bad mood

[@kyleyoung5063]

Honestly you deserved it

[@random-dy8jt]

damn Daniel

[@gamershadow8]

sounds like David is a "Ricky Gervais" Hayter 😏😏

[@Monke0115]

Metal Gear Solid is the most impactful game in my life other than silent hill and fallout but God hayter disappointed me a lot so did a lot of the metal gear cast with their goofy ass propaganda tweets or as everyone calls it "woke"

[@donkeykongisytpooping3002]

That’s why I’ve started separating the characters from the voice actors. When someone says that David Hayter is Snake as a person, I disagree with them. He doesn’t act like the characters he voiced at all. I’m pretty sure Solid Snake would disagree with him on a lot of things if they met in real life.

[@bleh22]

​@@donkeykongisytpooping3002what did David Hayter say that would be considered "woke". I don't really keep up with Twitter

[@donkeykongisytpooping3002]

@@bleh22 He’s said a lot of things that I would tell you but I’m not sure what your definition of woke is and I’m worried that I might offend someone. This is a very sensitive topic that can easily get people worked up.

[@bleh22]

@@donkeykongisytpooping3002 oh yeah I completely understand

[@Dino-f5y]

You realize mgs has always been woke, right?

[@QoMSoL]

Granted, your tweet was poorly worded and did look like an attempt at an insult. But in reality, how the fuq is comparing someone to Ricky Gervais an insult? Ricky looks ok, not to mention he's a hella funny dude with tons of charisma. Seriously! Oh, and yeah, he does look somewhat like Ricky :D

[@huckmart2017]

Probably just the way you worded it as a critisism, rather than a joke. If you had just made the observation "hey, isnt it funny these guys look so alike?" He probably would have lauged. But you kinda just assualted him with random critisism he didnt ask for. Imagine waking up and seeing someone tweet at you "hey, just fyi, you're not qualified for this role you didn't even ask for because you're too old. Okay byye." I'd be annoyed too.

[@PaperStarship]

Imagine waking up and seeing unwarranted criticism you didn’t deserve saying you’re not qualified for what you do? I don’t need to imagine man. What do you think the KZbin comment section is? 😂

[@kbkksh91]

average mgs2 fan lol

[@dannywapbang]

He's still hot

[@alcoholicgoat]

The tweet was poorly worded, this video doubles down. I mean just take the L and move on. Joke wasn't that funny. Wasn't communicated properly. Everyone makes a bad joke. Everyone puts their foot in their mouth. I'm sure if you explained it to him and tried to see it from his perspective it'd smooth things over, but it's so much of a non-issue, he's probably forgotten about it. I think making depricating jokes on the internet is really tricky because neither person "knows" the other and it can come across meanspirited. Saying "I wish you could take a joke" expresses that you're only seeing it from your POV. I think he's entitled to a reaction. Make a second twitter account, specify it's an alt for your main, and clear the air with him. Simple as that

[@zion6680]

He really doesn't tho lol wat

[@thepeopledinfinite]

Guess this snake's got thin skin 😂

[@PaperStarship]

He went to his Solid Safespace

[@thepeopledinfinite]

@@PaperStarship indeed Outer Haven😅

[@thepeopledinfinite]

He kinda does in that photo😂 maybe he was just mad at the comedic comparison 😂

[@SpicyBlackPhoenix]

So sorry you went through that. I know this video is a year old, but I thought I'd just respond to this video. First of all, what a 🍆 , second why did he throw an insult at you & block you? That's so childish. And third, I believe that as a celebrity, David is apart of that creepy industry of celebrities where they are world staged characters being recycled constantly through generations & generations. I mean isn't it funny how each celebrity has multiple different people that look exactly like them? This is a strange matrix world we live in. I feel like I'm living in the Twilight zone. Omg!😩😩 Something is up.🤨🤔💡💯💯

[@StimmBehr]

Lmao

[@thepeopledinfinite]

Voice actor or regular actor, I'm sure they overly sensitive. Plus while I would hope to let criticism slide off my back, being in the limelight may be different and probably easier to just turn off comments from the perceived haters. Tho I agree it wasn't that insulting. 😅

[@mfjqkqo5665]

Meh Kiefer Sutherland is better as Big Boss anyway.

[@evelynmeenan2608]

Personally I feel like Richard Doyle is the best Big Boss

[@don2nd650]

Gr8 video ❤

[@PaperStarship]

Glad you liked it!!

[@Dark_Ronius]

I really went off Hayter after how he came across with MGSV... It seemed a bit entitled to the role and a bit whiney. I mean I also really was looking forward to Sutherland in the role as I thought he might be great in an MGS movie or something since 24 was a thing in the 2000s. And the more I saw stuff said or posted by Hayter the more I was kinda thinking... It's a role... You're either hired for the part or you're not. If there was mistreatment or something from Kojima I would understand more. But it felt like he was quick to slag him off everywhere he could. It just didn't seem professional. Just don't meet your idols I guess

[@Lurmmings]

I mean, with MGS V, he'd held the role for 2 decades, he was the only returning character in the game to be replaced, and he wasn't even informed he wouldn't be returning for the role, so there was absolutely mistreatment from Kojima.

[@AlphariusOmegon-vd9gg]

Well, even if Hayter looks like rickygervais, we have his clone - Karl Urban. Still he is not too old