The Day Plane Crazy Changed Forever.

[@SolitarySpade_Davon]

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[@Normal_PC]

yessir

[@itzwaffle1271]

Soon when we are old we are gonna tell this story to our grandkids

[@JakeM4B]

not really unless they're gamers.

[@baconplayz3386]

true

[@War_pig69420]

yup..

[@Sidewinnder]

Yep

[@pjxqk]

when i join a pvp server to test out how ppl would react to my hospital ship , there was this damn guy with his 8 shredders trying to destroy my ship . i obviously lost and had to reload it over and over again . some jets fought back but they lost and had to reload to destroy this guy . most of us blacklisted him and he kept on saying “idc if its destroying your creations” and almost the server fought against him . i used my tutorial jet , bc i cant build jets by myself , to fight back but we lost . he dominated the server and the rest of us left . i was still in there trying to upgrade my hospital ship but the damn shredders were outside my thing making me distracted . he eventually left and peace was restored . there were around 5 people left but i wonder where he is right now . stay safe plane crazy citizens .

[@guidoroderi7730]

Plane Crazy-the movie from 30 february... ...every plane... ...will become CRAZY.... 5 heroes, powerful jets and fighters, against the evil itself... aaaaaaaand here's your advertisement.

[@jonathanwezgray1756]

That happened with a shredder ball however, no one did much and I was the only person with a fast jet, I only got 1 shredder kill but he didn’t kill me once

[@agentm.2730]

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[@reubenbellaney1271]

All plane crazy citizens should stay safe, but shredders are not citizens, they are not welcome in our home

[@Kv-2_OP]

U should try the namnam jet it’s OP against shredders

[@onlymythicz]

I remember when Plane crazy only has non motorlocked builds and we also liked fighting with WWII Designs. Such as tanks,Planes, and ships. I miss those days when there weren't such shredders or literally just blocky builds.

[@Ospaar]

I remember when PVP had no prejudice or hatred promoted to anyone for whatever build was used to fight with, too.

[@SolitarySpade_Davon]

@@Ospaar usually it's not the builds, it's the people who use them. in this instance, shredder users are usually undes with nothing on their mind except go after everyone in a pvp arena.

[@Ospaar]

I've seen jets do the same. How has such a divide ever occurred between different crafts when the consensus of PVP is acknowledged by even just spawning in? Even you admitted that it's actually a pilot issue and not a build issue. Where did all of this hate suddenly appear from?

[@HARRAWISH]

new pfp is more fun imo more dynamic and random and if you like more classic fights just play on vip server

[@DimentiaGaming]

It’s only planes now, rarely do I ever see anything other than planes or shredders in pvp

[@Saedorthemar]

We can just call Old Plane Crazy: "Vanilla Plane Crazy"

[@gorts_brothers_brother1072]

or "good plane crazy"

[@Benjaminthehighprosocubor]

Hmm which sounds better: OPC or VPC or GPC. I choose OPC

[@justmosaico343]

che para mucho pedo por muy poco solo digan pc2020

[@IcyBune]

Honestly i'd probably prefer a server full of blocky unmotorlocked build and missiles than shredder

[@memoertz2442]

Eslecially box pcp cars they are hilarious

[@fauzn._]

I agree with you.

[@SolitarySpade_Davon]

@@memoertz2442 boxcar gaming

[@basiltron]

I've been playing plane crazy for about 3 years now an not once have i used motor locking for any of my creations, I don't even know how to do it or how it works and tbh I don't want to

[@lanswyfte]

can agree

[@ikepenn]

Recently, I was in a server with 3 Omni shredders. Me and a couple of my friends were testing out pvp builds and these guys came along, just spamming us for fun. So, I found what I think is one of the best Omni shredder defenses. Basically, you take a gun turret, at cutters around the turret so if the cutter rams you, it might take damage. Than, everywhere on the ground, place tnt set to explode when you hit a key, and boom. Long range high damage attack, and deadlier defense. Hope this helps.

[@HARRAWISH]

just put cutters inside of your vehicle and blacklist them lol

[@some1058]

shredder cant harm you if you outrun it

[@disrespecc9678]

@@HARRAWISH they blacklist you already, so no need for that part

[@43-034]

the best defense is a good offense. build to fight them head on.

[@Riciliz]

@@43-034 you can't fight an omni-shredder head on if you want to keep your head on

[@Spritecar69420]

“Shredders are... shredded”

[@somegalaxy4550]

??? wut ???

[@AstronomicalAviation]

To add on to the lore, I believe I am partially to blame for the shredder bugs. Between October of 2019 and May of 2020, I was working on a very large rocket which is now my oldest and largest save file, but with the same guided missile mechanics that were also evolving in the game around that time. Eventually I got it to be a two part rocket controlled almost exactly as modern shredders are, but it was carrying bombs instead of moving cutters. By the time it was finished it was a pretty large feat both in the game and the discord server, which gained me multiple different ranks, however its one flaw became apparent and people began to take notice that moving cutter parts would deal more damage than a large bomb, though the same mechanism used in guided missiles would still be the best way to control it. I know there were still creations around at the time with the same design and purpose as my rocket, however I have not seen another rocket or missile of the same size as mine and using the same control mechanism because I believe my missile proved to the community that much deadlier and larger weapons could be made using the same design as the very small guided missiles that first came, which is when the shredders began to arrive in the servers. Also I believe I have a solution to fighting the shredders. The most successful thing I know of to destroy them happens to be a giant controllable bomb using their same mechanism.

[@casamobil7805]

L o r e

[@sfsrockets3512]

read the whole thing

[@casamobil7805]

Nope

[@coherenteg5376]

Lore

[@catastrophic_music]

Wow thats alot of words *TO BAD I AIN'T READIN EM!*

[@Duk1lee]

My first heli that i made that works Mil Mi-28. I nicknamed it fortress. It was so durable and agile. I dont know how many shredders i destroyed with it. It was my masterpiece.

[@Duk1lee]

It also dont have any tnt blocks in it

[@angelagiron9668]

you built a good helicopter first try and i can't even build the rotors

[@users4007]

Nice, most helis i come across are not very durable and will fall when 40% of their blocks are destroyed, which a sphere shredder can do easily

[@JoeMomma-sl1ni]

I remember, the days that followed the creation of the shredders, my cafe (a floating building) was terrorized, which influenced the idea of putting escape pods, but even with defenses and escape mechanisms, my cafe was utterly defenseless which was annoying but fun and chaotic at times, mostly annoying.

[@HZStudios2023]

0:20 Yes! Yinshi Valley!

[@Br672Fan]

1:16 urgh one of the damned guided missiles exploded my build at monday

[@1l65]

thats cool how they evolved and how the shredder bug made roots for diffrent types of shredders like bees

[@Intremental]

4:38 hey is that a mad vulpen tutorial?

[@formerfofcastudent7470]

As an unbiased guy on this, I think it is interesting to see how shredders and PVP jets have adapted to the circumstances of one another, and have ended up forming a delicate balance between the two.

[@a_person5853]

Clashing and leaving new players in the straight center

[@The_American_In_Your_Walls]

I have started an Anti-Shredder organization. I usually play dev version, because I have all my builds there. Me and my group fight shredders, and we are extremely successful. I also have a good strategy for fighting any shredder. They are used to fighting planes and tank and stuff, but they aren’t used to fighting *other shredders.* So, if we use their own weapon against them, the shredder number might decrease.

[@edsheeransleftnut4318]

The fact that the music fits PERFECTLY gives me the tingles

[@SolitarySpade_Davon]

Gotta love ace combat's ost

[@edsheeransleftnut4318]

@@SolitarySpade_Davonyep

[@lorenplays3548]

daaam this looks like a whole movie by the way its made and the epic music. the ambience of a "war" in the video is really cool 10/10 would watch again

[@Helldiver_Magnolia]

In addition to all this remember, an easy way to beat shredder bugs is to be faster than them. They rely entirely on slow-moving targets that are easy to outmaneuver. The faster you are, the safer.

[@justaboringperson]

then they replace the rocket engines with glitch engines

[@goku795_xqa]

2024 shredders can go to 12k speed

[@Rush-s3j]

Tutorial on how to survive any type of shredders: 1.make a flinger 2.make a sphere that flings anything that touches it

[@chrisrodriguezm13]

Meanwhile variation 2: 1. get lucky enough to see ChrisRM_380 get his omnishredder against the other shredders 2. if his omnishredder goes to attack the other annoying shredders, try to help it (optional)

[@mooders216]

The good thing is that even shredders can be countered now by those small light tanks tried it once and i actually survived until he kept respawning and finally destroying my tank. shredders are becoming obsolete fast since people are gaining more and more knowledge on how to beat em so thats good

[@wenomeyouindesama6027]

Faster it is, harder to attack

[@mooders216]

@@wenomeyouindesama6027 they may be fast but they can't do anything to a wall of flak at all directions

[@-ZM_Gaming-]

​@@mooders216just like my turret spam lol (only use it for Defcon SHREDDER ALERT)

[@DefinitionOfPain]

At one point I thought of trying to make an anti shredder while using an actual shredder with some changes

[@logostarproductions]

I joined Plane Crazy for the first time in about late 2021 so I obviously never saw one of these shredders or even knew about this Thank you for explaining.

[@Xenn_..]

I actually once met the friend of the original shredder creator. His friend told me that as soon as he made a shredder and it got popular he unfriended him. He was a good guy and pretty nice to talk to.

[@kingcobrayt714]

I love how this is a documentary format I would love to see more liek this

[@Chill_Bell]

I use something I called the A.S.W (Anti Shredder Weapon) its basically like a C-RAM

[@GravitWry]

I rarely play PC nowadays and when I do, I always get nostalgic with my old builds, specifically the ones that I made for shredder killing. Hellhound, Night Gaunt and both builds that I accidentally deleted, Zepha and Sea Bishop. These 4 builds really gave me great happiness during early to mid 2020, until now I still use Hellhound and Night Gaunt when ever I spot the occasional shredder here and there. Good times

[@ADcommenter]

The shredders being everywhere is like in ace combat 7 where the drone uploads it's schematics to build more drones. Actually you know what someone should do a plane crazy skit with that.

[@SohCahToa_enthusiast16]

Shredders where great for a while but people seem to have gotten wise on how to avoid / resist them- My preferred method is using redundancy in my planes, so for example one of my builds has 3 sections each with 4 arms which have another 4 full sets of rockers and weapons on them which means a shredder would have to get through 3x4x4 (48) different sections before the plane stops working.

[@Galladir]

Kinda good idea

[@EvrytForReal]

how we dont have that skill

[@GuhenousGuhener]

imma just strap a conveyor engine to each of my builds to outrun it, has worked for me

[@obsidiancosmos]

You cannot deny that everyone joined the shredder bug incursion at one point, but realized it was too much power for one person, and must be destroyed.

[@GuhenousGuhener]

shredders are much more rare to find nowadays, people moved on to motorlocked magnet planes, which i guess are better in a way, but if you cant adapt you still cant play the game

[@SolitarySpade_Davon]

100k views. Damn. Anyway join the discord! Link in the description.

[@tropicl9876]

:)

[@just_violet]

It's cool that you're still here Davon! I genuily thought you had left

[@beheroic8079]

damn is right

[@SolitarySpade_Davon]

​@@just_violet Well, plane crazy? I defintely left that. I have yet ro leave youtube though, I'm uploading content from different sources now.

[@davidE.90151]

you used it's instead of its

[@ErlkingHeathcliff69]

whenever a shredder spawn camps me i summon my motorlocked missile defense system and decimate them.

[@bobman36]

Back when shredders were introduced I remember the fastest useful pvp speed was 600, no omnis, just fish and the sword was the only challenger to the 600 speed standard

[@The-Master-Chief]

I know one way to attack shredders, dive runs. Firstly, stay away from the disgusting shredder bug and climb to a nice 3000 altitude then wait for it to encounter an enemy at a location where it can be cornered in. After all of those preparations are set, ready your missiles and cock back a guns hammer and dive down toward it while it is busy scavenging a destroyed vessel. Fire your turret at it and launch your missiles at it once your nearly directly above it within a hundred meters and then do a quick vertical climb and yaw the axis of your aircraft toward safety and rise to 3000 altitude to go again for another run or move on to another target like a lonely tiger enjoying its Sherman tank for lunch.

[@The-Master-Chief]

Also, I do not know if it works on Omni shredders as I am yet to use this on them. It probably would not work as they are a giant clump of rockets, motors and cutters. I also do not know if it works against shredder swarms, I may need to test this tactic out on the other types. So it only works on default shredders and far as I know of my experience hunting them.

[@jamesthesurgeon]

@@The-Master-Chief huh. i usualy dodge and weave and evade them with a sevearly modified tutorial plane, most cant even catch it.

[@The-Master-Chief]

@@jamesthesurgeon Yea this is just a weird comment I made like a year ago. Instead like you said, dodge and weave and try to get your guns on the thing so you can kill it. All you need is a short burst of guns that will take it apart as it’s not very durable.

[@LunringNassar]

Goes to show how beautiful and deadly innovation really is. I have no hate on shredders, nor do I like them.

[@pilotbug6100]

honestly as a former shredder user, they are fun to fly

[@natrogaming6763]

The Best Way To Defeat A Shedder is a TNT box, just a 3x3 TNT box with you inside, with small engines outisde to control it, cause tnt is indestructible shedders cant get you. If they Try to come near, Explode and they'll die, i am not kidding, this actually works lol

[@Cherno35]

Shredder bugs shouldn’t be banned, there should just be features to make them less effective like armor.

[@baconplayz3386]

RICKJE IS REMOVING SHREDDER BWUGS YEY

[@Whom1337]

I started motor locking identical skeletons of my aircrafts made entirely out of cutter into my builds, works like a charm

[@bobman36]

It is of my opinion as a long time plane crazy player to keep shredders in general around. Plane crazy is a game of innovation and watching the evolution of both jets and shredders has shown me if there’s nothing to challenge people in pvp innovation will never take place. Shredders thin out the new players who leave without dedication to the game… people who like the game but are new and not willing to experiment often go to tutorials wich make the people who make tutorials more popular. As shredders changed pvp changed witch is a sign of their impact on pvp, they got faster, more maneuverable… jets did the same. They are important to the existence of pvp as it stands today.

[@Lussra]

I think Shredders attract new, not-so-dedicated players to the game. They allow the players who don't care to try and do their own thing to get their fun out of destroying people in PVP, which is unhealthy for a game based around innovation.

[@kakomakothebuilder6584]

@@Lussra I personally don't think so shredders led me to build a car fully designed to counter shredders which turn helped me become a better builder

[@PupperTiggle]

"witch"

[@officerjohns9554]

@@Lussra uh theres a no pvp gamemode. Go there if u want innovation and not pvp

[@kaiserYT_]

I agree

[@absolutelynothing9394]

Tip:- if you have a massive build, add guided missiles and conveyor drives as your build might have the space for them.

[@auspiciouscat5698]

Havent touched on this game in a while so i dont know if theres any update of mechanics but i remember that i once made an “anti shredder flak” which basically a rocket propelled flak turret thats covered in cutter its weirdly ineffective against ground targets (lets keep it that way) but it was superbly strong against normal shredders. You can bet real money that i slapped every weaponry possible on my flak to counter those “super shredders” and mega swarms

[@Ospaar]

You'll be surprised on what today's super shredders might be considered as.

[@auspiciouscat5698]

@@Ospaar mind telling me if you would?

[@Ospaar]

Give my channel a look for an outdated design in a pvp montage. It's better to get a visual of what orbiting cutters are instead of a verbal description.

[@auspiciouscat5698]

@@Ospaar im scared to play pvp now if that thing is considered an ‘outdated’ design…

[@Ospaar]

It's a monoaxial orbiting cutter. The newest model has triaxial orbiting cutters that form a spherical area of attack. It's already passed down to a few people I know. They'd vouch for me as it's original creator. Planning on releasing a tutorial for both monoaxial and triaxial base models.

[@GavinMFR]

Shredder balls were originally made to fight shredder bugs, however just like italy, their creators switched sides.

[@omegaprime9219]

wasn't shredder balls used for the anti shredders most of the time to stop people from using a army of 24 normal shredders?, it was like picking up a the enemy weapon and using it against them. oh i remember

[@users4007]

Then the shredder users starts using it

[@chrisrodriguezm13]

Well, former shredder ball user here (I use shredder ball against the other annoying shredders)

[@williammccarthy7725]

I once fought a shredder before and I was in a tank then a shredder rammed into me and lifted me off the ground then I launched missiles and it fell apart

[@beetledesert8642]

I think the shredders are beginning to end. You can see now that there has been a decline in shredder bugs in pvp servers. I think this is because of the hate that players of shredder bugs get from the Plane Crazy community. Another thing is that groups have been getting popular recently and im 100 percent certain they wont let someone who uses shredders, let alone uses tutorials.

[@Thenowinsurl]

I agree, idk if it’s just my servers but honestly now I see a lot more actual pvp jets, almost like the community has gotten smarter. I remember about a year ago if you had a 1k speed pvp jet public lobbies were really easy and pretty boring. Now every few servers there is tons of super sonic pvp jets and it’s actually more fun to pvp :D

[@meimyself7134]

@@Thenowinsurl until the jets evolve into ace combats jets

[@Thenowinsurl]

@@meimyself7134 idk sometimes the whacked up physics make them pretty slow, but I won’t lie I have been clapped a few times by ace combat jets

[@meimyself7134]

@@Thenowinsurl try using propeller for turning so your jet wont get sluggish at slow speed

[@soupbowl6028]

Those damn missiles created shredder bugs

[@-Lazy]

I expected some shit but this was actually good. Back in the day everything was simpler and it was possible to fight machine vs machine and not bugs. There were also not so many toxic kids or lifeless teens who never touched grass and cry if something isn't motorlocked. But we'll yeah I don't play this game anymore so I don't need to care

[@brentoyisaac2538]

#Simpleplanes is still not ruined

[@johnathanczakel5195]

Time to design something that can easily rid of stredders yet less annoying

[@RiskierGlue]

I’m still upset about all these but if anything it has helped us. We needed to adapt to survive and because of this, skills and techniques have become more advanced

[@chrisrodriguezm13]

4:22 Well that’s not the end of the shredder development, there’s also the chainsaw shredder (hovering shredders that completely destroy anything, even omnishredders), the exo shredder (similar to shredder bug, just that faster and can catch things), the X’s Shredder (combo of missiles, guns and a shredder as the plane nose meant to destroy annoying shredders) and the flying spinning cross shredder that does similar to the chainsaw shredder

[@dsin3053]

Thankfully, at least lately I haven't really seen these stupid things, so hopefully this will come to an end soon and we'll almost never see the shredder bugs anymore

[@Jst.neutral]

This is a great documentary, luckily shredders are starting to die down, I haven’t seen one in pvp for a while.

[@paincrazy7149]

i motorlocked cutters on my wing so if shredders attack me theyre done

[@angelagiron9668]

spikey

[@paincrazy7149]

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[@Matt11211]

Bruh somewhere in 2021 there was like a vid 10 months ago saying plane crazy 2 is coming in a month, but then here we are. Still waiting for plane crazy 2 lol

[@ghosted9907]

When i started my plane crazy adventure ive fought my fair share of shredders. They always ruined my ww2 pvp battles by just going super fast and wrecking everything. Although my slower but more manoeuvrable ww2 planes could out turn and flank the shredders it was too much. They took over the servers. I resulted in trying many methods. Now im a shredder hunter, hunting shredders up till this day, with AA guns and fast rapid transit off-roading vehicles with weapons developed by other pc youtubers such as the magnetic propulsion tnt ball canon made by that badass plane crazy youtuber. Using explosives i have been able to counter many shredders. I have collabed with many others in the server to combat the shredders. Ive watched many of anti-shredder videos including the ones featured in this video, by luring shredders into water we have used out builds to crush them while their immobilised. It is unknown when the war will end but i will continue fighting until it does. Stay safe out there fellow builders

[@Avayix008]

Get a private server for private battles

[@CheeseWater.]

I have not seen any for a while now

[@rosiecan1015]

Interesting.. May i join you in the fight against shredders? I, Too, am a shredder user. But a more respectable one. I just use shredders when frickin the hell outta toxic players or other shredder users. (unless they are also shredder users that are anti-shredder)

[@rosiecan1015]

(User: ItsMeSonaria) (yeah ik its cringe but 9 year old me made it. cmon.)

[@amicable_gaming9995]

May rickje save us all by droping that update

[@cj_games8205]

I escape shredders in pvp by just launching a fucking rocket to space

[@crabbiestcrab]

I have actually created a machine, I call it, "The Crowned Shredder". It's a massive shredder ball that I will not tell how to make it, because the shredders will gain an advantage. Basically you blacklist a shredder, go up to him, shoot him/shred him/blow him up. It's incredibly effective and has not lost once.

[@JakeM4B]

i have a feeling you just [REDACTED] [REMOVED] [DELETED] [DESTROYED] and fired missiles and guns while the shredder user inside cries like a baby watching it's even more dumb creation getting wrecked edit = the reason why i put the removed parts is that it might reveal how "The Crowned Shredder" defeats shredder bugs

[@gorts_brothers_brother1072]

@@JakeM4B yeah but [REDACTED] and [#######]

[@franzUSA7612]

1 and a half years of plane crazy war, ive created an alliance called "The Anti Shredder Alliance," or T.A.S.A. The alliance flag is a black strip in the middle, and 2 red sides on the top and bottom. Dimensions are 3 blocks high and 4 blocks wide. If you want to join you are welcome to.

[@mexicodelcorazon]

2 years and im still fighting shredders in pvp i havent been shot down and then i realized shredders are dissapearing and i only see 1 shredder every last week

[@JakeM4B]

thats pretty much how it went. but there's always that one shredder BALL that comes into your server and kills everyone. WITHOUT SAYING. A SINGLE. WORD. i'd call those guys the "people who bully the homeless" or "really, really persistent trolls/proffessional trolls"

[@WatermelonDog202]

I remember the first time i joined Plane Crazy PVP, it was already when the Shredder Wars had begun. I would feel like a totally new recruit and i'm glad that someone could mke a video on the events.

[@Ospaar]

All this does is shed a positive light on shredders as the leading role in PVP innovation.

[@KCAcronymEvade]

Shed. Lmao

[@Adam-np9xj]

@@KCAcronymEvade Shut up and take your like :skull:

[@rosiecan1015]

im prob rare in the shredder kind. how? well, i protecc, i attacc those who violate peace.. but most importantly.. I handled a chaotic shredder army!

[@novanic7769]

@@rosiecan1015 its kinda best to not be a guard to anyone who violate peace but shredding your own kind is nice

[@rosiecan1015]

@@novanic7769 :)

[@HalitorianEmpire]

Shredders have evolved once more, however rare. I personally call them Mega Shredders. They are shredder bugs that are as big as a plot in length, are way more manoeuvrable, and can reach speeds up to 1700 studs per second. They are really difficult to fight even with the best experience and are loaded with rockets, guns and tons of cutters making them extremely dangerous.

[@ultimatecultchaos]

Wait what... they are still evolving?

[@riversword2660]

I agree to this video, I kept on getting attacked by shredders is PC PvP while I was looking for jets in my spaceship

[@ksaukam1734]

I have many ways of making shredder bugs unable to catch you 1: Make a highly maneuverable plane 2: Exceed 600 speed 3: Distract them 4: Make a spinning contraption that goes at 1000 speed

[@Epsilon11ninetailedfox13]

my life: in 2020:*uses aa guns on planes* now:*uses A-10 warthog to take down shredders*

[@BlueRGuy]

When you're so annoyed at shredder that you use an attacker to attack airborne enemy

[@_REGG1E_]

PC engineers assemble. New shredder variants have been developed. This one named the "Interceptor". We shall build new Anti-Shedders THE SHREDDER BEES ARE ALSO INVENTED 4 DAYS AGO 💀💀💀

[@kaiserYT_]

I think shredders were a good thing Back in the day, shredders were non stopping machines But the arms race and the union of the people against it changed that It is becoming rare to see one And it boosted the pvp tech really hard

[@thenuggetman1032]

love him or hate him, he does actually have a point

[@yeboxxx_channel_2505]

It's true, lets be honest. Rocket and Mini-gun tanks, planes and robots took place because of the PvP

[@Riciliz]

TLDR: shredders forced evolution and then died

[@doge9265]

people hated them because they were superior to their machines that they spent hours on

[@RuJigglo]

No worries our team is here the “SHREDDER JOYKILL MAJORITY” We are a group that builds modified f16 and f22

[@red_d849]

i will say, i think i made a very good thing to counter, take the BP-1 Scout tutorial, and replace the guns with cutters, the plane is maneuverable and the cutters work well, you put them on the lower wing basically, but i haven’t encountered another shredder to test this on, i just made this last night

[@rosiecan1015]

Ill help! (im a shredder user but uh eh im not like the others)

[@havnmartin]

even when pc2 releases people WILL find new things to make the shredder bug stronger and dodge the fix of shredder bugs, once the first one came out… they will NEVER disapear.

[@gamecontroller6420]

I have defeated over thousands of shreddders with my nuke launching missile machine

[@Dr_Femur_SCP]

If you aren't TOXIC with a shredder it can actually be really fun Just find someone who stops when you tell them to, like myself, and it's a lot less overwhelming. I just fly with the fishy boi, but when someone picks a fight with me uh... *rest in pieces.* I don't do it over and over again, I let other people start the conflict, I just end it. however, people get mad at me for even having a shredder most of the time, but usually I don't even play pvp, I just fly my fishy friend.

[@-Lazy]

If anyone still plays still game and has no idea how to defeat shredders, I can tell you: Just build an armoured cube on wheels with flamethrowers, multiple small turrets on top and cutters everywhere. This was my last build. Its no fun, but it works and I'm sure it's possible to make a large tank out of it

[@gorts_brothers_brother1072]

death cube

[@goofyahhdog9]

2:06 my birthday ._.

[@arandomguy8552]

It change the way of combat in plane crazy so much so, the art in it was lost

[@ManglerWT]

"If you want to take down such an opponent, make a bundle of explosives and cutters when it comes near you." -Sun Tzu, Art of War.

[@Sticknub]

This video is a masterpiece

[@hecugruntwastaken]

this feels like the terminator plot. the shredders are super OP, and are constantly evolving (sorta) with a mass war against them

[@valentine8217]

I get why people hate shredders. Really, I do. I hate them as well. But in all honesty, you would normally want the best possible build for your plane crazy PVP machine, correct? What I'm saying is, that the original shredder creators in my opinion are very good at what they do. They created a design that was not only very capable at offensive abilities, but in also defensive capabilities, as they are hard to kill. All while staying in a very simple domain to build. Now I'm not encouraging people to use shredders, ESPECIALLY tutorial shredders (because of obvious reasons) What I am saying is that if someone creates a shredder, and it's their own original idea, it isn't necessarily BAD. They had the genius to make such a build and it's our own fault for not being able to counter them effectively. There IS a way to counter them effectively, someone just hasn't found the 100% solution yet. (I know there never will be "100%" solution, but we could get very close) All in all, I don't like shredders, but I don't hate the people who themselves made them originally. It is my own fault for not being able to counter them effectively. So I must give them props for making a build that I struggle with, as that is the point of the PVP arena. Make the best PVP machine to your ability, as deadly as possible to assure victory over other players. *All is fair in war.*

[@Ospaar]

The consequence of prejudice is the association of the original subject to others in its likeness. The hatred has been indoctrinated so deeply that human nature evolves it further to target beyond the tutorial shredder users. Unless your build looks a certain acceptable way, it will be the target of harassment. Plane Crazy suddenly becomes the preservation of petty schoolground bullying antics.

[@disrespecc9678]

The last bit. What about mustard gas?

[@Riciliz]

about that last bit.. what about getting god and having him nerf the enemy main weapon (rickje nerfing cutters)

[@nolankramer3334]

I have made it my mission to stop shredders on any sever I’m on by making them rage quite

[@Exilir8]

I guess.... My finger slipped?

[@Exilir8]

I am loving the Project Wingman soundtracks in the background, you've gained a sub!

[@SolitarySpade_Davon]

Damn, hi, didnt think you'd actually see the video. Welcome to the channel anyway

[@Exilir8]

@@SolitarySpade_Davon a friend sent it to me and I thought it was funny how you slowly zoomed into my video’s thumbnail with intense music in the background. Also thank you for recognising I was the original tutorial. People just stole the name I spent 2 seconds thinking of.

[@doge9265]

I don't believe that this guy should receive hate because no one knew that this would make such a pandemic....

[@Exilir8]

@@doge9265 I see a lot of people are coming to this realisation, it’s a little late now since this is three years later.

[@kvetinky]

I created a rapid-fire SMG cannon filled with ball tnts. It was decently effective agains’t shredders. But, not as my prototype of shotgun few months back. Which “shredded” shredders. And especally the omri-shredders. The con of it was the mobility and low ammo capicity, Making it less viable again’t multiple targets. The range was surprisingly good. Damage was excelllent. Bullet velocity not so great. Overall it was good defense. When i was on the server with the shotgun. Some people were more annoyed by me, than the shredder. cuz, it caused superior damage than anything else, along with minor lagg.

[@yllainenisperos1770]

Motor Lock Actually Changed Plane Crazy

[@-Lazy]

True

[@derpcade]

Honestly "omni-shredders" are the easiest to kill for me, because most are poorly built. It could also be that I have a massive high speed rotating device that I call the flinger.

[@Adam-np9xj]

The sad thing is. The easiest way to combat a Shredder, is to use a shredder. But, the good thing is nobody builds them. Campaigns of mass bullying of the shredder user is common. And, usually inneffective. I sit alone in my VIP server. Been doing that since the Shredder sword thing. I have Never encountered an Omni bug. I only hear tales. And I hope they stay as tales. Farewell.

[@bobobeast]

i built a harpoon takes them out pretty well

[@rhondanugent7648]

I have,you don't wanna know the pain.

[@JakeM4B]

god save you if there is an omni-bug or what i call, shredder balls in your server. once they see/target you they just YEET into your craft and you are very much very dead. and you cant fight back, they're way too fast!

[@I_Forgorlolol.]

I have met one myself, a tutorial thankfully saved me it was a ball design with lots of sticks poking and with cutters on the end and super engines and that melts them

[@jamesthesurgeon]

@@JakeM4B i have a tutorial plane build that barely exceeds 500+ speed and has pretty good manuverability, im somewhat new and iv seen at least a couple of omni bugs, either was outright ignored for more juicyer and larger targets or straight up dodged and weaved out of their grasps, somewhat shows that even newbies can survive em

[@Northstruck]

2:38 i was crying like pedro pascal when that popped up

[@mr.edmund0447]

Shredders seem to be entering partial obsolescence lately, i find the common shredder to be ineffective against anything capable of dodging while being vulnerable to counter attacks. Heck, even large builds which are supposedly weak to them are actually effective sometimes because they're too durable to chew through while the supposed punching bag can simply punch back. They are still very strong sometimes, mainly variants of the aptly named "omni shredders" but i find pvp jets to be even stronger. They're also on the rise lately which i see as a problem because they're way too dominant in pvp. To make things worse, most of them are sweaters or just greedy for kills, willing to spend as much as half an hour trying to shoot down their target just to get a kill or going after bigger builds when they can't shoot down smaller ones. Meanwhile people with arguably far inferior builds can achieve the same in a fraction of the time. The very worst of the jet users are those who are absolutely rotten to the core, I probably don't need to explain why. Thankfully though, some of them are actually decent people. Plane crazy can be fun sometimes but unfortunately children and sweaters exist.

[@jorichardson8288]

i plan to make a shredder but not for the reason you think! im making it to destroy other shredders! and also i plan to make every type of shredder to destroy my own kind!

[@mr.edmund0447]

@@jorichardson8288 i have some other shredder removal methods i can think of. You can just fly and learn to dodge to get rid of them via annoyance, though this seems ineffective. It would also be hard to hit them on a plane unless if you have experience fragging with pvp jets. Fast tanks with turrets and some durability can counter them to some extent. Large builds with turrets such as battleships are surprisingly effective, they're too tough to chew through quickly and can punch back hard, though this mainly works against the common shredder bug. Kamikaze shredders (shredders capable of self destructing) are particularly annoying for large and slow builds. Lightning bruiser-type ships (ships that are relatively tough yet fast) are extremely deadly against slow shredders. Submarines are very safe from shredders because shredders are hydrophobic and submarines are hard to detect in the first place. You might even score some kills with custom missiles or underwater guns. If you want to give them a taste of their own medicine, use omni shredders. Box shredders are even more deadly and are the counters to omni shredders, though this type seems to be more vulnerable to conventional builds. Overall, speed, toughness, turrets and good ol' H2O are the best counters against shredders in my experience.

[@Riciliz]

@@mr.edmund0447 rickje anounced the cutter nerf in PC2 (plane crazy 2) so shredders will be less effective now

[@mr.edmund0447]

@@Riciliz heard of it, even the dev doesn't like shredders

[@danielclark6585]

@@Riciliz It's not even really a nerf in my opinion, it just makes them more useful for their intended purpose. (For those wondering: it makes the damage from cutters momentum based)

[@ToastLord42]

These things are why most people don't like new players, because I have never seen an experience player flying them its always the newbies :/

[@aurasphere121]

Shredder bugs have gone extinct over the winter because the game also went extinct. Either way, shredder bugs aren’t a problem for people that actually know how to play the game

[@Ospaar]

The issue with this is that it's always a different 'game' with every different player. There isn't a single solution for an indefinite number of encounters in a pvp building game. It's not just with shredder pilots but any other builds as well as their pilots, too.

[@aurasphere121]

@@Ospaar Tutorial shredder users all had lobotomies within their lifetime or something because they cannot think or behave like a normal player and their movement is very predictable (if big build or ground vehicle in sight, point mouse at it and wait for it to die) If a custom shredder bug goes like Mach 2 and fires rockets at everything then it’s better to leave that server before you get frustrated (it’s nice to leave a few slurs or choice words in chat against them 👍👍👍)

[@Ospaar]

I understand and by experience vouch for how you think tutorial shredder users act similarly. I'd like to know what you consider as 'normal' since you seem to separate predictability and normalcy even though they are alike by definition. Personally, I fought enough jet pilots to gauge predictability of their movements since they are restricted to forward thrust, same with the shredder bug. Few have proven themselves a surprise encounter. My point is that builds will lend some level of restricted movement but the piloting skills of a competent player will ultimately break the bounds of normal behavior. TLDR: Improvise, adapt, overcome.

[@Ospaar]

Also, jets can go Mach 2 and fire rockets. I've seen more of those doing than shredders. If the latter is interpreted as a form of oppression, why are entire servers seemingly silent when jets do the same?

[@JakeM4B]

@@Ospaar probably the reputation. jets are less hated by the community than shredders. shredders target everything and its so effective yet simple, which is why the community hates it, it's easily made and it takes no skill. just point at something. and boost to it. that's all there is to use a shredder. jets are much, much, MUCH more complicated and intricate. more respect due to the complexity.

[@kanrapheeratchakij804]

One good way to defeat shredders: kamikaze and bomb

[@strayworks2722]

Though they are extremely annoying to the point pvp servers just go blank,they also have some kind of mutual relationship to players,they force people to evolve they're aircrafts to make them faster just like in real life while shredder bugs get to feast on their failed attempts to do so,it's a win-win if you see it on a different perspective,but they did end the era of normal land vehicles,nowadays tanks have fast acceleration which is very weird,and ships now have the ability to do levitate with full control but what the hell this is plane crazy Rick added the word crazy for a reason There are no heroes without villains Just like how there wouldn't be all kind of glitch engines of it weren't for those shredders

[@schaserneo]

The first Shredders Indeed Evolved From Guided missiles, Cutters were way more OP back then So, Yeah its reasonable To use Cutters. (P.S Atelast shredders are to much of a problem anymore)

[@sup_a]

when PC2 comes out i really doubt these things will work anymore cause of different physics

[@Ospaar]

Different physics, different design, same purpose.

[@sup_a]

@@Ospaar yes but shredder tech will severely set back so slower progress and less shredders in pvp

[@Ospaar]

I won't make any statements regarding setbacks to the creative output of Plane Crazy's players- myself included- in having to solve problems in PVP. Even moreso when PC2 hasn't even released yet. I can say with certainty that no matter the changes the game goes through, there will always be the few that push designs to the furthest pursuits of the game's limitations. Such changes will always deviate from real-world applications in order to suit the demands of a competitive PVP community striving for innovation. Who's to say that new glitches and bugs won't be imemented as features and builds? Hoping that an enemy will be weaker as things change won't make the hopeful stronger.

[@sup_a]

@@Ospaar touche

[@SolitarySpade_Davon]

​@@Ospaar Agreed. So long as there is plane crazy PVP, there will be builds designed to dominate in pvp.

[@chrisrodriguezm13]

4:29 That shredder ball vaguely reminds me of my xoltus swarmers that I use against shredder kids like the owner of the shown footage

[@slavinia21]

damn, i just saw a guy saying shredders are hard to control and aim and takes skill, lmao its complete cap

[@Gjsolo64]

IMMENSE skill issue

[@pilotjdb]

@@Gjsolo64 1st reply to ur reply

[@slavinia21]

@@Gjsolo64 wtf epic plen crazy youtuber???? sheeeesh

[@dumplingcat4215]

I plan to start a group called A.S.T.A (Anti-Shredder Technology Administration) to help develop new technologies and techniques to defeat shredders and hopefully increase the decrease of shredder use.

[@ghosted9907]

Interestingly I dont think shredders have been a bad edition to plane crazy 100 percent. Id say its at least a 50-50 scenario. Some time after my comment, ive noticed new creations being built to counter shredders. To put it simply, people were evolving to combat this almost unstoppable force. It really cause majority of the community to band together to fight the shredders. Although shredders ruined a lot of things, i did teach us to evolve our creations to be better, faster, more efficient. Although the battle scars are still there, im sure we wont miss shredders, but the times we continuously fought them wont be forgotten within me and others. So you could say shredders were a curse and gift to the plane crazy community. But i still do think they suck

[@a_person5853]

Yes, but they have made another problem as well. Motorlocked jets are becoming commonplace, presenting a problem (although a smaller problem than shredders) to new players.

[@a_person5853]

Shredders still suck tho

[@tukezdi]

@@a_person5853more like bigger, because theyre super annoying and many people have them

[@1985_Honda_CRX_Si]

**laughs in invention of hover drive**