The Day The Office Was Born

[@EntertainTheElk]

What should I explore next in my ongoing Day ___ Was Born series?

[@benk1525]

Simpsons

[@luisovallegamboa]

Breaking Bad

[@Climor]

Seinfeld

[@ashtviceland]

Friends My name is earl Seinfeld HIMYM TBBT

[@casperguo7177]

Better call Saul

[@wstine79]

Dwight: "False. The Office was always there. It was the day you found the show."

[@EntertainTheElk]

Bears. Beets. The Day Battlestar Galactica Was Born.

[@BakerZone760]

Yup, it was a wack British show lol

[@rachelconsoli8428]

I don’t agree that the show is worse with Jim and Pam finally together. I don’t think the show hinged on their ‘will they won’t they’ and I adored watching them navigate a healthy relationship with real world issues and compromises. I think it also allows the other characters to take center stage and shine since so much of the plot isn’t focused on their hidden feelings.

[@loudemopsychic]

Yeah I completely agree, I know it's probably a cliche to say this, but I think the decline really came when Steve Carell left. The "will they won't they" wasn't what made the show great, it was the sparks of greatness and comedy in mundane life, and that still happened after Jim and Pam got together and they got married. What did make the show decline was the writers trying to fill a void that had been left by someone so iconic that it just couldn't be filled in a satisfactory way. And that's not to say that after Michael left there wasn't still some great lines or scenes, there was, the writing talent on the office was brilliant, I just think the show had so much of it's identity drawn from Michael, and without that it was flatter.

[@calebwinfield1403]

When Jim asks out Pam after his interview and she smiles is one of the most heart warming scenes I've ever seen.

[@dangerousaniimals]

Totally agree! Season 4 is actually my favorite. I love the Ryan as VP story arc and seeing a new side of Dwight when he’s depressed over Angela. Michael and Jan’s super unhealthy relationship was a great plot line as well.

[@taniwha7618]

I agree!! I think seeing them together them as husband and wife then as parents is so sweet. I would have cried if it had have just ended once they were together

[@purplewine7362]

Yea. Too many shows don't know what to do when the main characters get together. Glad we got to watch after they get married

[@ryanrich06]

Didn’t the show runners essentially re-pilot the show with “Stress Relief”? I would say The Office breaks down into two separate shows, that being seasons 1-4 and then seasons 5-9. You can see a giant shift tonally after the season 5 premiere going from more understated dry humor to over-the-top almost slapstick type humor.

[@PatoGuzmanAd]

I think The Office has 3 eras, season 1-4, 5-7, and then after Michael 8-9.

[@dangerousaniimals]

That’s true. Never thought of it that way but I guess that’s why the first four seasons have always been my favorite.

[@PhilipJackson03]

This is accurate, Greg Daniels left as show-runner at the end of season 4 to work on Parks and Rec while Paul Lieberstein and Jennifer Celotta took over. And at that point you see more celebrity cameos, outlandish storylines and as you pointed out slapstick humour that spills out for the rest of the series. I honestly don’t know what seasons 5 and beyond would’ve been like if Greg Daniels would’ve retained the title of show runner. Because he was far more focused on keeping the stories short, simple and relatable compared to the more jokey and lovable crew getting into antics vibe Paul Lieberstein did.

[@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734]

And do you feel it was still high quality after the tone shift?

[@VIK_1903]

I think this is quite insightful. I'm not entirely sure I'm sold on S03E01 over S02E01, but it is what it is. Thanks for another video!

[@EntertainTheElk]

Splitting hairs. Dundies is a close 2nd for the day it was born for me. Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@VIK_1903]

@@EntertainTheElk agreeing with everything, or disagreeing with everything, I'll always be grateful for your content and will watch it nonetheless!

[@katalinventilla1915]

Personally, I started to enjoy the office from the second season and found the "Dundies" hilarious!

[@andrewjones575]

@@katalinventilla1915 The start of s2 is when it changed greatly from the style of the original it's based on to being more lighthearted.

[@trinaq]

I love that the show found its feet after trying to borrow the British version's formula for the first six episodes. British comedy is more Cringy and realistic, whereas American humour tends to be more exaggerated and lighthearted.

[@joeloates1685]

Yes. I've never understood the need for Americans to remake British shows scene for scene when you might as well just air the original British version. So it's nice the US version got it's own identity.

[@VIK_1903]

I think the jello scene in the US version is embarrassing and cringy for all the wrong reasons. I'm glad they mad a shift, because that kind of thing was unbearable to watch as a remake. ps: I'm a huge fan of both versions, though I personally prefer British humour, therefore, the UK version. They're great in their own ways.

[@jb76489]

@@VIK_1903 humour doesn’t have nationalities

[@madjamjar]

I find british humour is more self-deprecating and american humour is more about witty one liners.

[@JJJameson.]

Yeah, americans very rarely nail discomfort humour

[@Badsauser]

Me, as someone who's never seen the office: "Ah yes, Gay Witch Hunt. Naturally that's the best pick."

[@Beavis-ej3ny]

The eposode is where a minor character named oscar is made fun of for not being masculine by Michael, but then Michael outs Oscar to the office against his wishes. Everyone reacts differently, but Michael tries to make a big thing out of it to make himself look better, and he ends up kissing Oscar

[@andrewiangillies]

Enjoyed that thanks! For me it was born somewhere in Season 2. 'The Dundies' was a turning point as you said. 'Office Olympics' brought in some interesting emotion at the end which was great. 'The Client' was genius, and showed Michael's true talent, and that he was attractive to women (quite different from the British version). But the one that I would pick that is The Day The Office Was Born is 'Booze Cruise'. The episode was brilliant, but crucially, Jim (foolishly) confided in Michael, as a friend. Whereas we watched the British version to laugh AT David Brent (and Gareth), it was now clear that the American version wasn't just about 'laughing at' the boss (and his sidekick). Now we are invited to appreciate the complexity of relationship between Michael, Jim and Dwight. It set the American Office up to be able to run for many seasons. Great channel by the way.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Wow great perspective. The 2nd season is incredible. “BFD. Engaged ain’t married.”

[@petsounds3612]

Season 2 and 3of the Office are two of the best seasons of TV of all time to me

[@EntertainTheElk]

Yeah I’d agree. That’s it’s peak for sure.

[@thedukeofchutney468]

I still think “Diversity Day” is one of the most underrated episodes.

[@dereklasker5350]

I think we should finish the Schurr verse and do when Brooklyn 99 was born For my money it’s the first Halloween heist. It’s where the respect between Jake and Holt is truly defined and their relationship what drives the show (since Jake and Amy getting together causes the same sorts of issues that you described with Jim and Pam in early season 4 here)

[@EntertainTheElk]

Ooh I like this. That’ll fun to explore. Guess I would need to do The Good Place too then for the Schurr universe.

[@dereklasker5350]

@@EntertainTheElk that’s true although I think The Good Place is so serialized it might just end up being the pilot. Or maybe not, I’ve only seen it once

[@oliversales1180]

I really like “the day X was born”. It’s a good counterpart

[@EntertainTheElk]

Thanks!

[@paperchaseproductions4487]

It’s the American version of The Day X Died

[@JC20XX]

@@EntertainTheElk the positivity is refreshing

[@oliviastratton2169]

To me, the health care episode in Season 1 was a huge turning point. It's the first episode where the ensemble cast really gets to shine. It's also the first time where we get to see some of Jim's faults and how him antagonizing Dwight can have real negative consequences. It's the only episode from Season 1 that I've rewatched for fun.

[@brolan9335]

I completely agree

[@iamthedoctor3915]

For me, someone who started watching the show only a couple weeks back and is starting the eighth season at the moment, I fell in love with The Office when Jim said "Not a bad day." at the end of the second episode after she fell asleep on his shoulder. That's all it took for me :D That being said I agree with many others that S3E1 is too late a birthdate for this show. Still a great video though!

[@dricoirving3236]

If the Dundies was the pilot, I would of never began watching the office. Those first 2 episodes really captured how absurd and hilarious the American office place can be

[@Haydenxc]

I know I’m way late on this one. I actually agree with you about the day it was born. Where we slightly differ in opinion is the relationship between Pam and Jim, but my dissenting opinion is slightly different than others. Most shows or movie series definitely decline when the romantic tension between couples are gone because they are now together. The office brought a fresh change to this issue by constantly having Michael around. Jim and Pam had to navigate their relationship through the unpredictable fields of Michael Scott’s personality. You are right about the shows quality decline with the wedding episode in season 6, which took away the stakes and potential for breaking up. However the mystery, secrecy, and then continuous fire dousing thanks to Michael changed the schema of directors and show runners have when the romantic tension morphs. That’s my personal opinion though. Keep up the great work!

[@wvu05]

Solid pick. I personally would have gone with "Business School," because that's the one where they finally put all of the elements together for the Michael character.

[@MarceloGarcia9]

I totally agree. While I enjoyed the first 2 seasons this was when The Office left its mark. It’s when more people started (at the risk of sounding old) tuning in in droves. It also didn’t hurt the fax prank from Jim was featured in the keynote for the original iPhone. That’s how I first became aware of how much more this version of The Office offered than the UK’s version.

[@TheMemeJunkie]

The UK Office is a different type of show to the US one barring the first season.

[@MoreThanBlocks]

I love all of these videos so much!! Thank you so much for making this wonderful content for us. I would love to see a “When Supernatural Died” video. Many of us grew up with that show, but started falling off as it just went on and on and on. I believe it was genuinely good at the beginning, so when exactly did it die??

[@EntertainTheElk]

Thank you so much!

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

My problem with that season is that it doesn't really make sense that a camera crew would follow Jim around in another city. I could see them doing an interview with him once but to hire a second film crew to follow one guy around doesn't make any logical sense.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Yeah. If you think too much about the documentary aspect it just falls apart.

[@purplewine7362]

That's why Parks didn't even try to acknowledge any crew, even though it was a mockumentary

[@ethansexton2590]

Great video! Also, probably the most interesting sponsor ad I’ve seen thus far on KZbin

[@EntertainTheElk]

Ha, thanks!

[@henkspreeuw]

Love the video man, nice format!

[@EntertainTheElk]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@onedumbscott9731]

The Office lost nothing when Jim and Pam got together. People only say that because it was a thing in the 80s with Cheers and Moonlighting. The Will-they/Won't they dynamic was useless for building tension on The Office because it was never a question. The way the actors played it made it inevitable.

[@kamimunOfficial]

Next up: “The day the office grew up” (When Steve carrel left) “The day the office gave birth” (Failed Backdoor Pilot)

[@Dan_-]

Sounds more like "The Day The Office Had A Miscarriage" than "gave birth".

[@gh0ulgirl]

i still don’t understand how the show got “worse” after jim and pam got together and didn’t have that romantic tension. like i can feel it and see it myself but my brain doesn’t logically understand it bc we all waited for it for a long time and it was very satisfying so i really do wonder why it effected the show that way

[@awcomedy593]

I would have said The Injury. And I think the cast would too.

[@benjamingentile1660]

It was born with Steve Carell's hair transplant

[@laurabowles]

I can't believe you don't even have 500k subscribers, let alone 1m+. The analysis and production quality you offer is excellent. Really enjoy this series!

[@EntertainTheElk]

Wow thanks so much. Hopefully one day I'll get there!

[@johnlowkey359]

I would love to see a graph of people's favorite characters against their favorite (and then least favorite) seasons.

[@thisisunitive]

Michael Scott is just a poor man’s David Brent until S2 but they pulled it back perhaps better than any other adaptation - great video as always

[@EntertainTheElk]

Thanks! And yeah Michael Scott came into his own eventually.

[@mankytoes]

It was a bloody hard job, luckily they got one of the best actors in the world. Carrell is a great actor, for both comedy and drama.

[@knedy]

To me it's season 2 episode 14, when Kelly becomes a character.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Good call. So many side characters had to be adjusted or completely removed.

[@thebiggestofoofs3176]

Really small thing but I thoroughly enjoyed that you put the yellow bar at the bottom of the screen for the sponsor, idk why but it made sitting through it slightly less painful lol

[@danielkjm]

*The Day Misfits was born or The Day Misfits died*

[@10Thomasc]

I reckon it died after the end of season 2 lol, not enough seasons to discuss

[@danielkjm]

@@10Thomasc I think there is a lot to talk aboth, if he does the day misfits died

[@AzorAhaiReborn]

i guess ur right, i can watch seasons 3-6 indefinitely but the rest not so much

[@calebalwayswill7423]

Dude it was the Dundee's, choosing season three is just silly. You admit season two's your favorite, and It's clearly when the show became it's own thing. I guess you felt that was too predictable for your video

[@Parker--]

The second season is arguably the best season of the entire run and certainly at worst the second best. If your definition of “born” was applied to humans, people wouldn’t be “born” until they bought their first house.

[@llodavid]

Back then, shows still got room to grow and find their stride. I'm not so sure that The Office US or Parcs and Rec would be allowed to continue past their first or second season today. Shows have to be an instant hit, or they get canceled. And even if they're a hit, rarely do they get more than 4 seasons as the salaries of the stars get too high, which eats too much at the profitability. You also nailed why the Office US succeeded where a lot of US remakes of UK series failed. They try to copy the dynamic of the original series and it just does not work. The US is a very different country than the UK. Using the same situations, scripts or comedy and making a carbon copy of the original characters just does not work.

[@villanova5234]

“Gay Witch Hunt” was the first episode I thought of after I read the video title. Favorite season is hard to pick. I think the second is perfect, but the third gave the show its true identity moving forward and the fourth took a lot of fun risks. Dinner Party is the best episode of the whole series IMO.

[@visiblerat]

I'm not quite sure what my favorite episode of the series is, but I would have to pick season 3 as the best.

[@NotSassySas]

Completely agree! When I rewatch I tend to start with season 3, such quality content.

[@PatoGuzmanAd]

The day The Office peaked: Dinner Party.

[@arbiter7622]

Hope you're not still partnered with Established Titles, they're a scam

[@VaranTheGreat58]

please do brooklyn 99 next when a show was born, also I definitely agree with your opinion on the office

[@zurglebeatler]

After watching this series arguably too many times, I just watch the Christmas specials when the holidays come round.

[@theonlywizardwashere]

you could've chose so many episodes, but gwh is the perfect pic and a damn great choice !

[@EntertainTheElk]

Thanks!

[@getout3749]

I was hooked since Kevin said ‘I think you do, mon’

[@WillToNihilsm]

The kiss was actually improved by Steve Carrell.

[@t.c.b4722]

The Jim/Pam stuff was always my least favorite part of the show. Honestly Pam was my least favorite character.

[@tomlion0116]

Okay... I'm gonna start again at Season 2!

[@foxisreal9994]

Cool video man. Keep it up.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Thanks, will do!

[@jackster10101]

I know I’m going to love this video because I loved the last video on this show.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Great! Let me know what you thought after watching.

[@AirtimeThrills]

Important episode, and one of the 5 best in my opinion

[@ultimatemaitai]

IMHO The Client would be a better choice than GWH, but I do appreciate the rationale for your choice.

[@minir6030]

I'm still trying to finish the final season, dear lord what the fuck they were thinking with that script

[@jeffschnettler6772]

Fun Run was the beginning of the end. S1-S3 is pure gold.

[@douglasdoyle8944]

Can’t wait until Vee infuso steals this idea for a show.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Haha. How many times can I like this comment?

[@MCross-xg9ss]

Haven't there been at least several KZbinrs who have used the "The Day ___ Died" theme for videos? I swear there have been. Perhaps I'm misremembering that there are or that there have been several. It seems like it was a theme for media video essays that took off at some point and was fairly basic enough that even if somebody originally came up with it, using it wouldn't be thought of as theft. Though I can see how it could be, especially if it hadn't been that long after the original, not giving it a fair amount of time to become what would generally considered fair to be used by anyone...

[@friedrice207]

If season 2 was the best season but season 3 is when the office was born, then the office peaked before it was born. Just like me!

[@florianhufnagl2980]

This is my first video since I became a Patron. I was so excited to see my name at the end lol

[@EntertainTheElk]

Yay! Thanks for supporting the channel Florian! :)

[@florianhufnagl2980]

@@neeraj_185 Guten Tag ;)

[@MrJoshdude101]

Used your ELK10 code to buy a couple friends a Lord and Lady-ship for their wedding. xD Figured they'd still have and remember that in a few years more than some cash for a nice dinner.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Hey that’s awesome! Thanks for using my code. Hope they like the unique gift.

[@jonedward5376]

I think the day the office died was after Michael left, after he and Holly were married, after he had his character development.

[@TurnTwoSports]

Do a “day supernatural died” I would appreciate it

[@HelloZukoHere7]

End of season 5.

[@gaminggazebo3012]

as a scott hearing you pronounce dunfermline was great😂😂, ngl you got pretty close but the e is silent so it’s pronounced dun-furm-lin

[@vollied4865]

Thank you elk, I look forward to being lord Volroc, it'll make the lord voldemort jokes I get at work all the more funny

[@moneyball7908]

I personally think the first 3 seasons were masterpieces

[@IronyOfNadir]

When Michael left the office it felt different without him

[@dr_tudon]

AMAZING VIDEO!!!!!

[@EntertainTheElk]

Thank you so much!

[@travisspazz1624]

I don't care what anyone says, S7 is one of the best seasons!!

[@johnlowkey359]

It's definitely a return to form after season 6, which might be the worst. 2&3 are at the top, 6 and 9 at the bottom, everything between is going to be more subjective.

[@jadenpina3989]

@@johnlowkey359 I actually kind of liked the first half of season 6, before the episode Sabre

[@uksquall]

Climate change is not our problem, we can make all the effort we want but with banks and oil companies playing by their own set of rules and palming the responsibility to the citizens we operate under a guise of misallocated responsibility; we all pay for their ignorance and buy into the distortion that it is our doing when it is in fact theirs.

[@phillip_reynolds]

Please do one on the day “Community” was born!

[@maiconsilva4205]

That's a good suggestion. When did you think it was born? Possibly the first Paintball episode?

[@EntertainTheElk]

Yeah it's on the list!

[@johnlowkey359]

Community was born pretty quickly. S1E3 is brilliant, and really highlights both the setting and the emotional heart. The homages are fun, but the characters are king.

[@jakobhellyer2792]

@@maiconsilva4205 I think it was the debate episode( season 1 ep 9

[@FanDanGo86]

I really didn't like the us version for a long time because of the first episode. It was just a bad copy of the uk one in my opinion. I eventually got past that after many false starts and when season 2 came along I think that the only similarity of (apart from a few plot points) the uk/ us office is the name.

[@ronaldwilson9525]

I watched the 1st season and wasn’t impressed. It was the Dundees episode that was the episode that made me a fan.

[@Mistopherchristopher]

Yeah that “lord/lady” title is great fun up until you have to apply for a mortgage

[@alanlee67]

I wonder why nobody can pull off the darker tone of the UK office. This show and parks & rec both failed. Maybe Ricky Gervais is just more talented

[@EntertainTheElk]

I don’t think talent has anything to do with it. Just the different sensibilities of the shows.

[@caseyhart4999]

I’m at the beginning of the video and I’m gonna go ahead and predict it’s the dundies.

[@t.c.b4722]

Ricky Gervais: Am I a joke to you?

[@emusaurus]

It was born in season 2.

[@jer8139]

We need "the day that shameless died"

[@PhoenixxPhire]

I'm subbed to both you and Wendigoon two completely different KZbin but your icons are just similar enough I never know who I just clicked on lol

[@EntertainTheElk]

Just searched that channel and see what you mean. Haha

[@apc5213]

Before I watch this video the episode you choose better be S2E1 The Dundies

[@apc5213]

now that I have seen it I think you chose wrong because the Stamford branch was closed just 7 ep. in to S3 I think which means the show reduced the element you said was the reason you didn't choose the Dundies ep., so then essentially the Stamford branch was just a gimmick to create conflict within Pam and Jim's future and bring in new characters (all of whom except Andy leave in S3 anyway). I don't think there is any change apparent in S3E1 except for the Stamford branch set that wasn't present in S2E1.

[@JackieWarner13]

I love the office but I always skip s1 when I go for a rewatch bc it's pretty cringey/so hard trying to be the uk version. I've noticed a lot of American sitcoms doesn't like mean comedy/mean main character much like what David Brent is kind like. So I like how they made you kinda feel sorry for Michael Scott. They like to cheer the person on. Then what they tried for s1/what uk version did.

[@MilStdNZ]

Commenting for the algorithm

[@EntertainTheElk]

Salute!

[@SpiceAndSauce]

For me, Michael was a very unlikeable guy, but he was the highlight of the show.

[@loganlabach4227]

The British version I thought was just not funny but my grandpa thought that the first season was funny.

[@EntertainTheElk]

The British Office is incredible but just for different reasons.

[@alexanderamaya6977]

Can you do this for Seinfeld please...

[@mickbanner]

"Season 2 was the best season"...but somehow it was born on season 3? Gotcha

[@kensington1199]

Man that established titles promo aged horribly

[@Skip44]

The post-ad content starts at 2:19

[@EntertainTheElk]

You can also just watch the yellow bar at the bottom of the screen that I included.

[@sicoles]

I haven't seen the video yet; it has to be The Dundies

[@MCross-xg9ss]

Dwight: Uhhhluh little comment.

[@EntertainTheElk]

Nailed it.

[@lenny-ip1pu]

So can I skip season 1 and still enjoy the show?

[@EntertainTheElk]

I honestly think Season 1 is better than Seasons 7-9. Season 1 has some great moments. It's just quieter and a little clunkier.

[@johnlowkey359]

@@EntertainTheElk based. While I disagree with this video's thesis, you certainly have a discerning opinion on the show.

[@pettykittyfam]

Jim & Pam getting together ruined the show --- FALSE 😂😂😂

[@Rose337]

i LOVE your videos but i do have to say you pronounced "Dunfermline" *very* wrong 😅 i know it was just a sponsor but it really made me laugh

[@Panurus_biarmicus]

If I buy 3 titles can I be Lordy lordy lord?

[@lasagna312]

Tbh, I don't think the show lost anything when Jim and Pam got together. I find "will they won't they" plots to be horribly boring and tired.

[@MrJoshdude101]

The Day Avatar (the last airbender) Was Born?

[@EntertainTheElk]

I need to watch the series first, which I’m ashamed to admit I haven’t done yet.

[@MrJoshdude101]

cheers!

[@EntertainTheElk]

Thanks!

[@ayoutubechannel7143]

As someone who lives in Dunfermline, Scotland I have to say your pronunciation couldn’t have been worse lmao. Great video though!

[@jaybaer6452]

get over the office people there is more shows out there

[@EmFi7]

I’ll ask this in the comments before watching the video. Does this video containt big spoilers or something? I have never seen an episode of the office (i know, it’s a shame). I have seen clips and it seems super funny! It’s coming to Netflix in a couple of weeks so I’m definitely watching it then. But just wanted to make sure i didn’t ruin the show by watching this?

[@VIK_1903]

There's one big spoiler, but it's the most predictable ever. So I wouldn't mind. Also, The Office relies on characters and situations, so the story itself won't be as important as something with a plot twist that could ruin the experience. Btw, go watch the series!!!

[@EntertainTheElk]

Yeah as much as I’d like you to watch this video, it definitely spoils later events in the show. So if you want to be surprised, I’d save this for later. Now go watch it!

[@EmFi7]

Ok, thanks guys! I have saved the video to watch it later, just to be sure. But I'll make sure to watch your next video Elk. Big fan of your work on here! Every video feels like a mini-movie and you always struck the right chord & feeling in my opinion. Keep it up!

[@EntertainTheElk]

Thank you so much!! :)

[@alteregobro4826]

do the day futurama was born

[@EntertainTheElk]

Great idea. I remember loving the pilot episode. When do you think it was born?

[@newsystembad]

@@EntertainTheElk That's a really tough one. "Space Pilot 3000" and "The Series Has Landed" are both pretty quintessential to the soul of Futurama, but neither hits the height of "Hell is Other Robots" or "Fry and the Slurm Factory". Any one of those could honestly be it.

[@thedoctor1263]

@@EntertainTheElk season 2 episode 1 the first season seemed a little off to me for some reason

[@247snob6]

Funny, I loved the show (Netflix) but usually cut out, ffwd Michaels scenes.