THE DEBRIEF: Tobin Heath Debriefs the NWSL's Cascadia Rivalry (Portland Thorns v Seattle Reign FC)

This is The Debrief.
One soccer game, each week.
Debriefed by USWNT legend and 2x World Cup Champion Tobin Heath
This week Tobin breaks down the NWSL's Cascadia Rivalry: Portland Thorns vs. Seattle Reign FC
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“The Debrief is a concept that comes from the U.S. Women’s National Team.
A sports psychologist came in before the 2019 World Cup to figure out the marginal gains - what could we do that no other team was going to be doing to win that World Cup?
We’d go on the field for 90-plus minutes. And no matter what happened - win, lose, or tie - we’d come back to the locker room, sit down, and debrief.
What did that look like? Everybody just getting out all of their energy on the past game. Their feelings. Their emotions. Holding each other accountable. Whether it was the good, bad, or ugly it was a time to expel all of our feeling about the game. And then we’d wipe our hands and say ‘onto the next game.’
Doing it collectively as a team was a game changer. It completely unlocked our ability to move through tournaments in a positive way.
So we took this concept and put it into this show. I’m going to watch one game every week, and then I’m going to just expel all of my feelings about the game and together we’ll Debrief.”
- Tobin
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[@hmccharmedgirl]

Tobin is still the funniest human being on this earth! Not only that, but I LOVE her football mind even more! I miss seeing you on the pitch so much! The world is missing an incredible player on the field!

[@novanights2chevy597]

Would love to watch Tobin and Lindsey Horan geeking out on tactics sometime soon.

[@drmattyooo]

I was totally addicted to the great WWC coverage last summer. Would love to see more!

[@Zen-Zee]

Start positive end positive 💪😂😂 love her

[@anger101]

Always love hearing Tobin talk about soccer!

[@loverlore9356]

tobin STOP SAYING SORRY! you have nothing to be sorry for (even if it is controversial to some, LOL) - always love hearing your thoughts, so excited for more of this!! 🩷

[@PartiesInTheAfterlife]

Tobin, we need you on the pitch yesterday!!!

[@lifeparticipant]

love hearing from tobin!!!!

[@fatimahuezo4621]

Really liked this!!!! Super interesting insight.. Excited for the next ones :)

[@RosaLichtenstein01]

When are we going to see you play again,Tobin?

[@epach1747]

Agreed about the penalty call. The fact that it takes so long to review, they should not be using VAR. NWSL needs to do better with these refs. Good job Re. Love these vids. Also, CP laughing in the background 😂❤

[@gunselshaly537]

Can you please, PLEASE tell us if you're going to play again?

[@diane1926]

Love this 😀Excited for more !!

[@michellequadracci1795]

LOVE this new concept!!

[@fearlesssfcappuccino]

Love this!! XD The info, the coverage, the humor (including the editor's notes XD) so great

[@lauraemerson1641]

Need more of these Debriefs! ❤

[@chivalozaful]

Love this content❤. Your fútbol mind is 🤯

[@DannyVegas]

You are back...lets keep it up... you have talent...keep it up

[@gretchenlittle6817]

Definitely agree about the PK! The current state of VAR frustrates me no end, and confirms that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. They've traded questions about on-field calls for questions about VAR intervention with little gained in the process. All the while disrupting the flow of the game.

[@kaminis.3312]

Let me be clear if Tobin is debriefing it, I’m watching it

[@DavidKAnderson]

Sorry, Tobin, but gotta disagree: best non-Soph Thorn was (as is often the case) Hina Sugita. Not having her in the starting eleven for the first handful of games was a huge error. The transformation once she was starting has been dramatic.

[@noodle_fc]

Agreed. Hina was huge.

[@brruizzzz]

Hina or coffey!

[@HurrikanEagle]

honestly, I think the best Thorn on the field right now, and the one even giving Sophia Smith a run for her money is Muller on the back line. I mean, we obvs need Hina in the game, she's such a huge presence. But I think Muller should already be discussed as a potential Defensive Play of the Year, if she keeps playing like she does.

[@HurrikanEagle]

@@brruizzzz Hina and Coffey running the double pivot as Defensive mids is helping us defensively SO much.

[@noodle_fc]

@@brruizzzz "Who played better, Sugita or Coffey?" is such a fun sentence to be able to say. On most days I would give the nod to Coffey on the basis of her dead-ball service alone (so fucking good), but Hina just edged her out this game.

[@mckennagaddis662]

I do agree Olivia Moultrie was fantastic that game! YES! Sophia Smith was amazing her passes. Yeah their mid field has to be better like you said they have the talent. Also Portland's defense has scared me way way too many times.

[@davidparker8242]

I agree Seattle had to be pissed having to come to Providence after short rest. But Portland just came off a similar week and continued building their winning streak. But no excuses. Seattle needs help. Fishlock's face when Moultrie scored that goal! 🔥🔥🔥 We miss you, TH!💕

[@bingsu079]

Portland was coming off of a three week game playing another team that also had a three week game. When Seattle played Portland, Portland had a full week to rest & recover. It is slightly different, but at the end of the day, results are results

[@joekelly7505]

As a Portland Thorns fan, given this season so far, I'll settle for any kind of goals. 2nd half it felt like the team was having a lot of fun, which is always when the quality of the football goes up.

[@ik1768]

i think i know who the editor is lol!

[@noodle_fc]

Obviously I'm not the soccer mind Tobin is, but I noticed something that I'm surprised she didn't mention. Seattle's service into the box and on set pieces was poor-to-terrible the majority of the game. Again and again, crosses and dead balls were overcooked or misplaced. Set pieces are still a weakness for this Thorns squad. Seattle squandered so many scoring chances.

[@Ra_17-rachel23]

"Play FUTEBOL, FUTEBOL"...ADORO!

[@flangeslammer]

Ji and Fishlock, i'd argue, had zero impact on this match and were holding on for dear life by the end. if they don't impact Reign matches with assists and goals, what value do they have on the pitch for them? it's not defensive impact, thats for sure. 1 goal and 3 assists between them thru 9 (!) matches. you're being very kind.

[@Ozzyoxenfree]

Pretty sure the Thorns coach did say that it wasn’t their plan to be weaker in that first half, and that they discussed changing tactics (or something like that) in the locker room at half!

[@objetty11]

T. H. is so wicked....Aloha

[@christineromo1374]

Tobin, get your coaching license, Thorns wants you back in the locker room. We know you’re still an Oregonian.

[@fridun2513]

the editing is killing me lmaoooo

[@eisenrz5540]

I wish we could get Tobin in the booth and just let her rip

[@HurrikanEagle]

As a Portland fan.............. man, I hated the Refs in this game. I thought overall, especially before that PK, Seattle was getting away with everything under the sun. And fans in the Stadium were pissed at how long the VAR was taking as well. Regarding the PK call, I think the Ref got it right in the strictest reading of the word (the defenders arm looked like it was chicken winging a little to me. Obviously, as a pro, you'd have a better understanding). But just overall in the game, the reffing felt...... bad. Then again, Providence Park always seems to invite terrible Refs.

[@WBCHelpSaint]

The PK call was the soccer gods giving one back to the Thorns for the multiple times where a Thorns defender has been called on worse handball calls than that one

[@scott4482]

BAON Tobin

[@astriddececco3005]

Is CP ever going to show up again?

[@tatum2739]

Do you ever make a comment that’s not about CP?

[@EDEV-rm4cq]

She made a cameo. You can hear her laugh in the background 😄

[@roscko3142]

Christen is busy with training she told me

[@samdanny2175]

She looks pretty of the field. Just saying 😊

[@bhuld0115]

Thorns season tkt holder. PK wasn’t until the 80th minute. Reign had 35 minutes to even it up. Didn’t. Reign was strong in the first half and didn’t score. Thorns defense was solid throughout and the Reign was never dangerous. VAR can go away, imho. Just let the terrible NWSL refs be part of the game. I’d rather have a goal line camera to decide iffy goals. VAR serves gambling more than the game (you can bet on the outcome online). Without VAR the game would have continued with no call. He didn’t call for it until his headset buzzed in his ear.

[@cache.]

Cutie!

[@gavinmiles47]

Love you Tobin, but I heard a lot of excuses for Seattle getting beat handily by the thorns. Could the thorns have played better in the 1st, sure! I’ll take a 4-0 over our rivals anyway of the week. Go Thorns!!!

[@stephanieamend4285]

Made 2 good points that Portland had a weak first half and that the call was wrong, even Becky Sauerbraun acknowledged as much. That said, stop saying that this all happened because Seattle had three games in one week. Portland had 3 games the week before and won all of them so that is a sorry excuse for Seattle to lose. The league has done a poor job of scheduling which is contributing to overloads which may be tied to increased player injuries.

[@tatum2739]

Saying it’s not a good excuse just because Portland won their matches is very bizarre, Stephanie. As if there’s not a whole bunch of other factors that went into Portland winning.

[@noodle_fc]

Huerta has to take blame for that PK. No matter how contact happens, the rules are explicit: if your arm is away from your body and it doesn't have to be, you're risking a penalty. Look at Lou Barnes and Shae Holmes just before Moultrie scores: their hands are clasped behind their backs. Huerta could have done the same. She didn't. It's silly to make that conscious choice and then blame the ref when there are consequences.

[@bubbleblow7461]

Dude, that isn't the rule. It needs to be an unnatural movement, this clearly wasn't. We use out arms to balance when we walk or move in any way, you want defenders to play practically without arms ever? That is literally impossible because your balance will be off

[@noodle_fc]

@@bubbleblow7461 "Unnatural movement" is not the standard. You really ought to be sure what the rule is before you directly contradict someone about it. Here is the rule: _"It is an offence if a player: touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised"_ I mentioned Lou Barnes and Shae Holmes for a reason. They don't find it impossible to play with their hands clasped behind them. "This is how my arm moves when I don't think about it" does not satisfy "consequence of or justifiable by." Serious question, because I'm curious. Why do you think they'd put that language about "takes a risk of" in the rule? If that doesn't mean what Huerta did, then what do you think it would mean?

[@bubbleblow7461]

@@noodle_fc Seriously are you just fucking braindead? You clearly have never played football if you think defenders can just play with their hands behind their backs the whole damn time and still keep standing. The rule is NEVER used that way by competent ref, like literally never. So maybe you should watch some football first before commenting on it. If a player falls over and catches their fall with their hands it's not considered a handball. You why? Because it's a fucking natural movement but i guess according to you they should just land on their face with their hands behind their back.

[@nataliatmontano2708]

💍 😍

[@TomF18]

Why is she griping about the PK, like it would’ve made a huge difference? Seattle lost 0-4. And while she’s talking about Portland trying to find balance, they’ve won their last 5 games.

[@carsonauld5727]

Early game state and momentum.

[@TomF18]

@@carsonauld5727 I get it, but any player who still doesn’t give their all, just because they’re down 2 goals, doesn’t deserve to be on the field. I personally don’t think Seattle played that well in the 1st half, anyway.

[@bingsu079]

Replying to your 2nd comment, I think Seattle definitely dropped off and fell apart but they very well may have been giving their all. They are coming off of a three game week (one where they had to play one down for 80 min and another against the no. 1 team in the league), facing a Portland that had a week to rest & the likes of Smith, Moultrie, Sugita, etc. Seattle does not have nearly as much depth as Portland/many other teams in the league, and with the momentum shift after the PK, their exhaustion probably got the better of them. Maybe they could’ve done more but I don’t think it’s as simple as you’re making it seem.

[@bubbleblow7461]

@@TomF18 Dude, just stop talking if you don't know how football works. You can say never give up all you want but a 2-0 in the 80th minute is a death sentence in basically every game and the fact it was a PK that shouldn't have been given makes it even worse.

[@TomF18]

@@bubbleblow7461 “Dude, just stop talking” if you haven’t watched enough soccer to see a 2 goal lead leveled within 15, 10 or even 5 minutes. It happens often. And the point is still that, Heath acted like it would’ve made all the difference in the world if the PK weren’t given. Despite already handing a “death sentence” to Seattle, Portland didn’t stop trying. And they doubled their lead in stoppage time alone.

[@fluffy485]

We need a new beginning in women’s soccer. These old players have proven to be toxic to the game! They bring baggage to the games that disrupt player unity!

[@EDEV-rm4cq]

Nah. It’s all good. You’re just too sensitive. What is toxic to woso are people like you. Just saying.

[@bubbleblow7461]

lol what the hell are you talking about? Without those older players those children wouldn't even have a field to play on

[@tatum2739]

Why do you constantly repeat yourself? You know we can see all your comments right? You said all of this already 8 months ago when they were still doing the show. Enough already