The Decline of Hostess...What Happened?

Remember a few years ago when Hostess abruptly shut down and everyone was going crazy over all the Twinkies disappearing?
Here's what was happening.
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[@companyman114]

Happy Hostess Holidays!!

[@fahdi4636]

Company Man, keep up the amazing content!

[@MohammedHassan-tv3vr]

Company Man 5th like

[@bigekoms]

Company Man do circuit city

[@hannibalgray]

You should do a little Debbie video

[@cameronk8062]

I remember Twinkies actually taste and good now there fucking disgusting there's a reason they survive nuclear fallout it's because they have no food in them

[@DNAsGhostzHouze]

Why did Hostess go out of business? Management: "The Workers" Workers: "The Management"

[@ualdayan]

Management: The workers won’t let us cut their pay. Workers: This company could declare bankruptcy and management would STILL find a way to give themselves millions in bonuses as they pat themselves on the back for a job well done and proclaim they deserve it.

[@smhgaming3259]

@SpaghettiandSauce no management is at fault. You cant blame workers for management not knowing how to run a company jackass

[@RayManiac90]

I think it's more the managment in this case, they didn't evolve over times, they were stuck in the past

[@dyk-fr4ns]

i worked for IBC the company that owned Hostess. I worked on the bread side. And it was poor management period. Ever employee had ten dollars a week taken out of our pay checks for five years to try and pay off the first bankruptcy; and the higher ups were pocketing that money and also not paying into the pensions of the employees. And then they wanted us the take pay cuts. Also the President of IBC hired his son as the VP making over half as much as the President of IBC was and he knew nothing about the baking industry. They also owned Wonder Bread and Butternut Bread; made the bread for Wal-Mart, IGA, Shop n Save, and other grocery stores, Hardee's bread, and also Arby's bread. It wasn't because of unhealthy products.

[@tonydio666]

@@dyk-fr4ns Oh you should tell the one who made this video about the pay cut you took because he just said the Bakers Union refused paycuts which led to Hostess closing it's business. In fact many people blame unions directly for the decline of Hostess too. It didn't help Hostess raised the prices of their products but made the cakes considerably smaller than they had.

[@JoseFlores-xh5cj]

Who in the hell buys Hostees products for their nutritional value? 😂

[@TimmyTickle]

Someone who wants to be on My 600LB Life?

[@robertharris6092]

The idea is to make it less unhealthy. Not to make it healthy.

[@coolhandchris5960]

I'm eating my vitamin hohos

[@Kleavers]

@@TimmyTickle "I'm gonna be on television!"

[@lindaeasley4336]

It is ridiculous just like looking for healthy burger and fries options at a fast food joint. Nobody goes there for health reasons . They want a greasy meal and soda

[@AdmiralBonetoPick]

"Low fat" foods are the worst, because they tend to be loaded with sugar (far worse for you) to compensate taste-wise.

[@DeathbyPixels]

AdmiralBonetoPick lol yeah exactly. Sugar is the real issue, not the fat.

[@brittanynguyen3794]

Yep, so I just get sugar-free or low sugar foods.

[@feralcrafter7043]

Imagine if they removed the fat and sugar ... welcome to hostess

[@samanthab1923]

I remember when Entenmanns came out with low fat everything tasted like a wood chip.

[@anonymoususer638]

Its a long running disinformation campaign that fats are bad for you.

[@JBM425]

I could swear that over the years, Hostess made subtle changes to the recipes. The chocolate coating on Ding Dongs used to be so thick it could peel off and when chilled, it would crunch when you bit into it. Now, that chocolate coating seems to be just painted on.

[@werkmsa1806]

YES! And it's waxy! The pies taste like cardboard, and have a very thick gel, with no fruit! And don't get me started about the Ho-hos, and them getting rid of the thin foil wrapping! I think that was the beginning of the end! 😂

[@litfire5585]

Companies have been know to do that slowly over time to save money

[@moquilla1]

Yeah ding dongs quality has gone down and the twinkies don’t taste like they use to either. They tasted very different when I was a kid, better actually. Sad.

[@Genevieve1023]

That's what really killed them. Junk food has to be delicious. That's its only reason for it to exist. You can't make changes to the product that make it taste worse to save money, because then nobody'll but it anymore.

[@Zeroshiki]

Definitely, Twinkies taste awful now. The only thing I still enjoy from Hostess are Zingers.

[@harrisbadalandabad6257]

I love how hostess doesn't try to be healthy

[@smhgaming3259]

It's a snack why should it. No real snack should try to be that's why healthy "snacks" fail

[@ydnsnoopy2467]

Well that’s America for you that’s why we also have a Obesity epidemic

[@samirmalo]

@@ydnsnoopy2467 :((((

[@ydnsnoopy2467]

Stephen Hummel I bet your the type to complain if they give you 9 chicken nuggets instead of 10

[@snowballandpals]

Companies are happy that people don't try to be healthy either

[@georgemartin1436]

Yeah, the company was run by Ding Dongs for quite a while.

[@princess_patticakes]

Lollll

[@42luke93]

Johnjohnbro 06 Thank you for your reply! It make me laugh inside about this comment more! 😂

[@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263]

Never put the ho hos by the ding dongs.

[@dmkuchins6646]

@@dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 right. and watch marketing twinkies in san francisco...

[@Tottleminerftw]

Ding Dongs are the shit

[@SiriusMined]

The reason they failed is that THREE times, venture capital groups bought them, loaded up the debt, gave themselves bonuses, then sold the now-distressed asset. "Costs" where high because of the interest on the ever-increasing debt, not because of what the workers were paid. You'll note that they didn't reduce executive pay. Their product line is the same as ever, and they're doing fine, now, with ownership that actually cares about growing the business.

[@Anon_Spartan]

I don't want to bully, but it seems like Company Man ignores venture capitalists behind the demise of companies. Especially with Sears.

[@SiriusMined]

@@Anon_Spartan true. And that should not be ignored. When someone buys a company, with no thought, desire, or knowledge of growing the company, it's going to be bad.

[@neeneko]

@@Anon_Spartan Agreed, these sorts of financial tricks seem to get overlooked by the channel, though I see them overlooked in general. So many of these cases have some amount of 'group buys company or takes over the board, takes out massive loans to pay themselves and leave the company with the debt, move on'.

[@yunoyukki7344]

@@neeneko corporation is what kills people lol they are worse then Satan himself... And he would even cringed if he has to prosessed a lyin ass corporation person

[@AuspexAO]

The fault always lies with management, period. I always love how management tries to blame workers as if they have any choice in how the product is advertised, marketed, or distributed. They feast and feast on labor, and then when their stupidity and greed destroys the company, they point a finger at their "human resources" who before certainly weren't fit to share in the profits.

[@BangBang-hk4rg]

I remember when Ding Dongs came individually wrapped in foil wrappers. I swear they seemed to taste better back then. Kind of like Coke in a glass bottle.

[@maenad1231]

I’m convinced these companies are using slightly cheaper versions of the same ingredients every time they “revamp” in some kind of way. Not EVERYONE can be imagining the same taste difference

[@donniecraft9096]

I remember as well and not only do they seem to taste less than back when but they are smaller today 😢

[@timf2279]

They are not in tinfoil anymore?

[@ComicDrake]

Hostess ads in superhero comics are a surprisingly big part of the genre's origins. They'd often create original villains for them and one, Pigeon Person, was even recently rebooted to be an antagonist in the most recent run on Nightwing!

[@vladname9267]

That's pretty cool

[@Jigglysaint]

@@vladname9267 If you want to see how silly some of those comics can get, there is a video producer named Linkara who looks at comic books, and every now and then he has a segment called Comic Book Quickies that sometimes look into the silliness that is the Hostess Superhero Ads.

[@Nightcoffee365]

(Tangential) didn’t Lex Luthor steal something like 40 cakes in a kids book only to have it referenced in canon? Hell, I may have heard this from you.

[@funnygaming4641]

Yes!!

[@rctecopyright]

The alliteration agents strike again

[@lsgreger2645]

In 2004, the Baker's union did take a pay cut and under the agreement, management promised that they would modernize and become more efficient. So in 2012, they knew they would just have empty promises and decided not to accept the pay cut. That part of the story did not make it out because the Executives ran a big publicity campaign to put their story out there and blame the Union.

[@ZiggZagg11]

Thank you...

[@fearanarchy]

Intriguing. Might even say it was baked in to their plans??

[@stevenmiller7747]

So in other words the bakers union decided they'd rather lose their jobs entirely than take a pay cut. Brilliant!

[@effend446]

Who said the unions are always right? My parents never said they were always right, either. And my parents sure as hell didn't defend the worker who didn't want to work.

[@VinceroAlpha]

@@effend446 nobody is saying the unions were always right, but time and time again the executives and management take the easy way out of businesses while the workers usually takes the fall. Its all about trust in the end, the workers TRUST management to assess current market conditions, trends, and forecasts for the future. While management TRUST the workers to execute their plans based on facts and figures. But time and time again management takes the easy way out and breaks the trust of the workers. The unions are not infallible by any measure but if the company was ran properly and efficiently, they would have the same problem of running into the same brick wall of bad press, layoffs, and bankruptcy.

[@aaronslater470]

Nothing improves demand like telling people they can't have anymore

[@exoticcats6119]

Someone told me that if they weren’t allowed to get haircuts anymore that would be the first thing they do (except not for quarantine the quote didn’t age well)

[@BigBadJerryRogers]

Who are you to tell me I can't have twinkies anymore! This is America!

[@endtheliesnow5906]

Just like what they did by taking away original Coke, replacing it with New Coke, and then reintroducing original Coke, calling it Classic Coke. Companies are such scammers,, and people are so gullible.

[@Raza_T1AO]

Just like lead based paint.

[@DRAKKENFIRE22]

I used to love going to the Hostess thrift store in the 80's. The clerk would throw in some extra cakes for free (they were near their expiration date of course).

[@kenmore01]

They expire? 😮

[@KevinCGleason]

I am a bankruptcy lawyer. When I heard that the company was going out of business I bought my first box of Twinkies to add to my shelf of shame. Blame? Management!

[@f430ferrari5]

It was the union. Union gone under new company.

[@tylerferguson3707]

your obviously not a very good lawyer

[@FeedScrn]

They did, or did not do... what Little Debby did not, or did do..... Like mirror opposites.

[@mattkennedy6115]

F430 Ferrari yea and so is the old management 😆

[@f430ferrari5]

Matt Kennedy dude you don’t make any sense. The new “management” is still there. Idiots like you complain about “management”. Smart people know “unions” are the problem in this day and age. Always want to get paid more than you’re worth. Remember the old management also either retired or they simply moved on to something better. It’s easy for them to do because they get paid at their fair market value. The folks who were once in the Bakers Union. Where did they go? All those “unions” at Hostess are gone. Proof is in the pudding. Workers don’t need unions. They are paid their fair market value. If you don’t like what you’re earning then quit and find something better. Oh wait you can’t and you know it.

[@adambusenlehner3689]

I always laugh when people look at the nutritional value of junk foods. People eat junk food for entertainment. Not nutrition.

[@WhiteSupreme]

"I'm watching my diet" *Buys Cosmic Brownies.

[@eddamonsta]

I fit "junk food" into my macros lol

[@obiwanbd1]

@John Almost like you are selecting the "healthy" version of junk food. Most 'healthy' alternatives have never been objectively healthier than the foods they replaced but they appeal to people that want to feel less guilty about it. Whole wheat sugary cereal removes the benefits of whole wheat over refined wheat when you dump a bunch of sugar in it. Real sugar and cream don't actually make a better product people just feel like they do. Otherwise the sugar versions of coke and pepsi would have been successful when they made that comeback a few years ago. Hostess didn't try and make versions of their snacks that appeared more healthy and lost to things with similar nutritional values but added whole grains and had pictures of trees on the box.

[@Martinsspiegel]

Entertainment?

[@TallicaMan1986]

Martin Spiegel I hope you're not eating junk food cuz you're hungry.

[@1computernew]

I started eating Hostess Products in the fifties. Their cupcakes and Twinkies were delicious. I ate a whole lot of their Sno-balls, too. They were moist and very tasty. I even ate them when I became an adult. Hostess apparently changed their recipes. I could care less about their lack of nutritional value. I didn't think people wanted their junk food to be healthy. I noticed that the taste in every product had changed for the worse, and the Twinkies were dry and tasted like cardboard. I finally quit buying them because they were not the delicious treats that I remembered from my childhood. Taste usually suffers when a company is sold to a different corporation. I no longer eat Marie Calenders frozen dinners and desserts because the taste is terrible. Jimmy Dean's sausage is another example of terrible food. What has happened to Snickers? They used to be full of peanuts. Now you're lucky if you get a tiny hint of a peanut. I stopped buying Curtiss candies. ButterFingers and Baby Ruth's aren't fit to eat. Nabisco Foods went to the dogs. As the saying goes, if it ain't broke-don't fix it. However, company executives are more concerned with profits and greed rather than providing a good product. CHANGE IS NOT ALWAYS GOOD.

[@toddberner9198]

Yep...many other products changed the quality of flavor....Tombstone, Red Barron, and possibly some others, had reasonably good frozen pizzas. When you occasionally enjoyed one, it was okay for what it was. Now, these aren't even that.

[@TheDoorman55]

When I was a kid, there was a guy that drove a grocery bus thru our neighborhood. Not the biggest selection but it was very popular, especially if you didn't have a car to go into town. Mom would give me a nickel for the bus. I could get a candy bar, a bottle of pop or a hostess cake. I always got Twinkies, two for a nickel.

[@daveo7481]

A bottle of coke for a nickel? So you are about 100 years old?

[@cookies4582]

What happend is that their snacks don't taste anywhere near as good as it did back in the 80's and 90's it's horrible it's not even the same anymore.

[@jeanaquin]

They removed trans fats, which quite possibly had an affect on texture/moistness

[@ameliaroque3854]

Yes, they slowly make product more profitable, resulting in a new hybrid over time :(

[@MakThaNife]

I totally agree. They also got rid of my favorite product. The mini crumb donuts. Now they only have the mini crunch donuts which are way too sweet and don't have the same texture.

[@fornan7577]

satchmodan yesssss

[@DeRothschild]

That’s right around the time my wife got Crohn’s disease. We stopped eating all the processed stuff and it went away. So sad the ingredients have changed so much.

[@Habu12]

Last time I was this early, the Sears in Fairbanks was having a hiring fair.

[@Raptorsified]

Fairbanks was hiring* ftfy

[@rts718]

hahaha, I lived in FBX from 2014-2018 and only went to that place once. It was depressing.

[@theturtle2121]

The Sears store in Wasilla Alaska is still hiring!!! As of 12/17/2018 😁😆

[@jrayhayes]

Habu12 I lived in Fairbanks for a while. I saw the sears. Alaska needs to start drilling more and more oil, it’s not like anyone lives in the arctic anyways.

[@patricks.7951]

Last time I was this late there was still a McDonalds in Valdez

[@mitchg7809]

“Today’s health conscious consumers” are fatter than ever

[@jimbailey7997]

👍👍

[@tomhill3248]

Yeah I don't know about this one. I think company man might be full of shit on this video. It was an old one according to him, which might explain it's deficiency's. Heart attack grills still exist.

[@ReplyGuy22345]

It’s because there fatter then ever today consumers are health conscious. Why do you think things like meat substitutes, smoothies, and flavoured sparkling water (in place of soda) are trending

[@panta3819]

@@ReplyGuy22345 It is? (Idk sorry i never really liked soda :/)

[@ReplyGuy22345]

The Amazing Toast yes. EVERY soda brand is pushing flavoured sparkling water, and White Claw (low cal vodka soda) is also massively popular

[@frankred76]

Insider info: The Baker's Union would have taken the pay cut if Management also took the same % pay cut. Management said NO, because they are not workers.

[@deepspire]

And they wound up losing their jobs.

[@jc.1191]

I need some insider info on how to make the cherry pies, lol.

[@wakefielddevin]

You did your research and it's absolutely correct. I was one of the 18,000 laid off in 2012 at the historic Hostess/Wonder plant in downtown Ogden, UT I worked there from 2008 up until the shutdown in Nov, 2012 it was a very tough time, we not only lost are well paying jobs/401k but more importantly, us not as coworkers but us as a family. And to rub even more salt in the wounds, the city recently demolished our plant, it was such an iconic part of downtown Ogden. That smell of fresh bread once you reach 26th st. and even sooner. Thats a smell that no one will forget. I miss my Hostess family!

[@caa1000]

Same thing happened in Orlando! In fact since 2013, I haven't see a bag of Merita's bread! Why you ask? After Hostess bread brands were sold to Flowers Bread group, the former Hostess Bread brands like Wonder Bread were shifted from the Orlando bakery to the Flowers Brandenton FL Bakery, near Tampa. However they only made Wonder Bread and Meritas was replaced with Nature's Own branded bread. How nice! As for the old Orlando bread factory off Interstate 4, it was also demolished and now has become a truck selling dealership.

[@davenwin1973]

What I haven't liked since Flowers acquired the Wonder brand, that there's supply problems with the brand. In the midwest, they initially contracted Aunt Millies to make the brand. Now, they took over all the making of Wonder bread, and some store brand bread, and the shelves are always bare. The original Wonder plants made bread for Walmart, Meijer, Central Grocers (out of business in 2017), & Associated Wholesale Grocers. Under Flowers, in the midwest, I only know of them making bread for Walmart under the Great Value brand, but Aunt Millies took over the other store brands, and can keep up with demand in their small territory. Flowers can not keep up with demand, that when bread comes into stores, it disappears within 2 to 3 days. Flowers even closed their day old bread stores, because the grocery stores never had enough bread to supply their bread stores. They should have stuck with similar desserts like what the original Hostess company made, because I can find those products, but not Wonder bread or the store brands they make.

[@caa1000]

davenwin1973 See, one big... BIGGEST mistake ever, was that Flowers bakeries took the brands and still didn't wanted the Hostess bakeries plants, so the fate was sealed and most of the plants shut down and dismantled and the reason why, was that Flowers could simply shift the line into the "Nature's Own" belts and simply label it any brand name they have. The Walmart bread can be done by any bakery around the US and not necessarily a Flowers bakery. Same with Meijer and Kroger. I would get Wonder Bread in Florida so easy because the Bread is mostly done nearby in Tampa. All I would like to see and haven't seen in ages was Meritas Bread!

[@davenwin1973]

caa1000 I'm around Gary Indiana, and any bread from Flowers comes out of one of their Ohio bakeries. At least in the midwest, my local Walmart stores get their Great Value brand bread from them. So supplies are a problem. Glad that Aunt Millies took over the Meijer and AWG'S Best Choice brand bread. With AWG being a national distribution company, their bread products come from different bread companies. With Meijer currently a midwest retail store (like Walmart with groceries and general merchandise, but quality closer to Target ), their bread comes from 1 distributor, Aunt Millies (that can change once they enter Minnesota (already looking at Minneapolis) and eventually Pennsylvania, as Aunt Millies doesn't serve those 2 states.

[@keith2964]

Breadman for 34 years bro started in 1976. Know what your talkin about the smell. Had rout drivers that were my friends. Breadman walkin

[@britishchick09]

I remember going to the Hostess store in 2012. It was crazy!

[@theunemployedyouth9311]

britishchick09 What happened back then? Like what was it like, I’m curious to know. I wasn’t even aware that there was hostess stores, I only have a Little Debby store and factory around here in my state.

[@93mlo]

@@theunemployedyouth9311 it was like black Friday shopping exempt with punches ,kicking , stealing

[@ITsRezolute]

Hostess had a store?

[@itrthho]

Hostess Outlet Stores...haven't seen one since the BK.

[@xxXthekevXxx]

Never heard of a Hostess or Little Debbie store! Interesting

[@leonb2637]

Hostess also bought out a competitor in the NYC market area, Drake's, taking over their Wayne, NJ plant. I believe in the later versions of Hostess, production was consolidated in lower cost facilities, possibly without unions. In the last bankruptcy, that Wayne, NJ plant was shut down, it later became a distribution facility for FedEx Ground.

[@jessemask2562]

I worked for Hostess during the first bankruptcy and they took $500 a week from the Teamsters workers then several years later came back to try and take more. I blame the mismanagement at the top. We were working obscene hours using trucks that were barely road worthy. It was not a pleasant job at all getting up and to work by 4Am loading a truck getting on the road by 4:30 and to the first stop by 5. It was awful. Many companies these days that are route jobs will offer you a ride along day that you do for free to see if it is a good fit for you before you take the job. Had I been offered that day to see what I was getting into I would have declined it. All in all the management was taking from its core workers and taking all the money for themselves.

[@donforce808]

u couldnt leave garage until 6am.... teamster 550 rule

[@ARedMagicMarker]

The decline of Hostess: 1.) Weird preserve taste. 2.) Weird texture. 3.) Killer heartburn.

[@devinhigoy221]

True

[@bread9173]

The Red Sterling Mc'Bae agreed, twinkies have a very chemically aftertaste and the amount of sugar in it gives me heart burn.

[@subneric]

@Big Wheel dude they may not be even vegan but their right, the aftertaste is garbage

[@janlovesmany6058]

Wrong...their taste has always been the same that sold the product...little Debbie's has the fack taste...as for heartburn that's a personal health issue..see your Dr.

[@the_egg_]

@Ron Rossmore wtf does this mean?

[@markmaloney8154]

I’ll tell you what happen, they changed the ingredients and wrecked the taste. My wife was a Twinkie addict, when they changed the ingredients she could tell and didn’t like them anymore. I noticed that their cupcakes didn’t taste like they used to either and made my stomach hurt. Hostess had a great product, then changed the ingredients and became crap…

[@mxgonzo]

Correct! They started messing with the ingredients sometime in the mid 80's. Thats when I stopped eating them.

[@dgonz26868]

You are SOOOOOO very right (sorry for lateness).

[@richardeast3328]

And it's not only Hostess, but a lot of food products have done the same.

[@arthurcabral9561]

S ESPECIALLY HERSHEY AND NESTLE their pure chocolate was once pure and heavenly, now its like biting into a slab of colored wax!

[@eduardodiosdado9475]

Have you tried Submarinos and pinguinitos?

[@bigdaddeo76]

I was a Twinkies and HoHos fan going back to the 70's. I will tell you the new company changed all of the recipes. No a single product tastes the same as before.

[@daisymae3883]

Exactly. Especially when they added High Fructose Corn syrup. Twinkies used to be my favorite and now it's dry as hell and there's little cream. I tried switching over to Little Debbie's cloud cakes but they discontinued them...smh

[@cherkas009]

The executives don't need millions of dollars of benefits in order to just do their stupid job

[@michiganborn8303]

Has anyone tasted a Twinkie latley? I swear they do not taste the same as before and I have a very discriminating sweet tooth.

[@marsco2442]

I tried my first twinkie a year ago. It tasted odd and had a sickly aftertaste. I cannot imagine they tasted this awful back when they became iconic, but I will never get to find out for myself I guess.

[@FumiyaSugawara]

Yeah i bought some twinkies the day man i could barely chew that thing tastes like cardboard

[@NolaGB]

No, they don't taste the same and don't feel the same. They can say what they want, but it's not the same product and I quit buying them some time ago because of the taste difference.

[@michiganborn8303]

@@NolaGB Me too. I don't eat em anymore

[@haileygrey5047]

NG B they don't look the same. Like the consistency is off and the taste is basically IMO pure chemical. Gross indeed.

[@COWGIRLMOTORSPORTS]

I sold a box of Twinkies for $50.00 Right after hostess went out of business..

[@Darksyne]

someone must've had buyers remorse after a few months lol

[@MrSlashtf2]

Nah, they had a digestive remorse in the bathroom for sure

[@AreGeeBee]

A fool and their money are soon parted

[@cgasucks]

Hostess is alive and well in Canada. It's made by a different company under license from Hostess. We didn't have to horde any Twinkies or Ding Dongs when Hostess in the States went out of business...again.

[@hilbertsinn6886]

That's very strange, considering that the only real selling point of Hostess cakes is that they're really good _for the price point_ .

[@lisajohnson521]

The new Hostess products don’t taste the same 😞

[@desertrat1111]

I agree

[@cindythecatwoman1601]

Lisa Johnson Maybe because it's not the same company.

[@thomasdrish6491]

This company doesn't deserve the name Hostess.

[@RebelKitty19]

Facts!

[@WigglesNation]

they taste exactly the same, except they're not using old antiquated dirty equipment that you'd probably call "seasoned". they are literally the same and most of that is probably in your head because you knew there was a change.

[@kollow]

I was dumped out of the shopping cart by my brother when I was three at the Hostess store. I hit my head but the pediatrician said I was fine. My mom said I looked like Gumby because the side of my swelled up. Those were the days.

[@Waltham1892]

I remember years ago when I was a cop in LA, I caught a homeless guy with a shopping cart full of stainless steel baking equipment trying to slink away from the Hostess plant in South Central. All in all, he had stolen about 300 pounds of metal racks, augers and bowls. The guy ran for it and my partner and I chased him down and returned the bakery equipment. The folks in the factory didn't even give us a twinkie and they had THOUSANDS of them. Bastards.

[@jefferyschirm4103]

Union dont you get it.

[@ameliaroque3854]

Wait, i thought cops get pd. for keeping the . . .

[@ameliaroque3854]

Jeffery Schirm Dude, cops are public union :\ Created in 70's see . . .

[@Waltham1892]

@@ameliaroque3854 I'm not saying you don't have a point, but, we chased the guy for two blocks. We returned thousands of dollars of equipment, AND THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF FRESH, WARM, TWINKIES RIGHT THERE. YOU COULD SMELL THEM. Tell me you wouldn't have wanted just one...

[@NotaPizzaGRL]

@@Waltham1892 Did you talk to the owners of the plant?

[@cs3photography636]

Please do QUIZNOS...epic rise and fall

[@CapnCody1622]

CS3Design Inc They’ve always had the best product, too. It’s weird.

[@crouchb15]

I had a Quiznos that became a jersey Mike's so not a complete loss

[@UnanimousDelivers]

Yes! Quiznos

[@Scotty_in_Ohio]

I just recently saw something on Quiznos - apparently those who don't like their sandwiches are the franchise store owners - I guess corporate has some pretty unfair and bad business practices. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHi5iJykdqp6pdE

[@prisonmike4749]

WE LOVE THE SUBS COZ THEY ARE GOOD TO US WE LOVE THE SUBS

[@frank-bmtz]

Can we all just take a second to second to thank Comoany Man for all of the research and time that goes into these videos??

[@KMACKTIME]

Didn’t fany May go under and come back too?

[@SurvivingAnotherDay]

Government bought all its assets, fired all the executives, and pumped money into it to repay loans it wasn’t able to pay off to companies like AIG (which also had its assets bought by the government and executives fired for using their insurance double pay-back whatever scam which caused the bottleneck on the economy during the 2008 crisis. If you’re a company large enough to impact the economy in a major way if it’s liquidated, the government will come in.

[@bridgetg6857]

@@SurvivingAnotherDay I think they mean Fannie May the candy company

[@TheCandoRailfan]

Don't be afraid to make the videos a few extra minutes longer, to give it that extra bit of polish and quality. I'll gladly take a few extra minutes to watch.

[@robhova]

Yeah it seems content creators are scared to upload anything over 10 minutes nowadays. I'd gladly watch a watch a 30 minute video if it's done like all his videos.

[@Melissa-wx4lu]

With the quality of his work, I would kick back to an hour long documentary style episode each and every time. And I would watch the adds too.

[@WilliamSmith-zm4si]

Even if he has to upload every 10 days (instead of 7) to get the videos up to 20 minutes long with more detail, I'd take it.

[@Bob_Lob_Law]

Although you're comment is nice, at the end of the day, what really matters it's the actual analytics of watch time.

[@Dallen9]

It was management. They didn't do their job properly over a 30 year period.

[@watershed44]

Dallen9 BINGO....it's NOT the rank and file employees, it's the MANGLEment.

[@tohopes]

Damn, peasants be blame-shiftin' all over the place in here.

[@ts9749]

If you can't pay your employees, and they go on strike, then you go bankrupt, make sure to blame the union! Good old fashioned American way!

[@Jimraynor45]

Well, it's basically like blaming kid's actions on their parents. While parents do bare a lot of responsibility for their kids, at some point, you have to concede that the people have to take personal responsibility for _their_ own actions.

[@tomasbickel58]

You may also look on it this way: if unions would have given them some slack, it would have been unfair to the competition .. like Mars Inc. Everybody should face comparable labor cost, not compete over who can exploit the wworker more ruthless.

[@DeathMetalDerf]

I've only very recently come across your channel, and I'm REALLY enjoying your work! These are VERY interesting, and I hope you are able to continue the great work!

[@polskigirl8547]

Baby boomers lunch boxes were filled with Hostess staples! Love them berry pies, cupcakes, Twinkies, ding dongs......😁

[@jc.1191]

Genx here. My dad used to get me the cherry pie on the way to school growing up. Still in love with them.

[@w5527]

My really old college professor remembers that Twinkies were so much better when they were only good for 3 days and not for 3 decades. She said the Twinkies now are bland compared to the old ones. We missed out

[@SlackActionBumble]

Old people always say that about food. That's because taste buds deteriorate with age.

[@sup8668]

Seva Loginov, people were crazy about twinkies I never understood why, I tried it one day...taste like crap

[@OuroborosChoked]

If you've checked out Hostess's new formulations after they restarted, you'll know that their fruit pies are _garbage:_ greasy, flat-tasting, smaller... If you're missing the old pies, check out Tastykake's pies. They're VERY close to what the old Hostess ones were.

[@dalethelander3781]

Unfortunately, Tastycake isn't available everywhere. (IIRC, Tastycake is an east coast-centric product.) I could get it here in L.A. at Kroger-owned stores about 20 years ago, but no more.

[@chaoticgood1776]

Right on, Suzy Q's used to be amazing and now they're terrible!

[@richiekock8835]

I commend you for your channel. Infornative, positive, it notices that you put much effort into it. Gives great insight into the errors committed by other companies that others can learn from.

[@junitoroman7750]

For some reason there cakes don’t taste the same. I’ve always loved Hostess cakes. Still waiting for them to bring back the Ninja Turtle pies! Who remembers those tasty treats wit the green shell and and pudding filling?!!! Lol

[@jamesdietz29]

All their snack cakes suck more now than they ever did. They're smaller, dry and bland.

[@ouranhshc100]

After hostess went under the recipe for Twinkies changed. It didn't taste the same anymore

[@CapnCody1622]

Music_is_Calming I noticed that, too. They’ll never be the same :(

[@ouranhshc100]

@@CapnCody1622 IDK if it's me getting older or just the recipe but it's significantly way sweeter

[@randomtinypotatocried]

I thought it tasted weird.

[@CapnCody1622]

Music_is_Calming It’s way less sweet to me now. The cake seems airier, too, and less greasy. I prefer the denser, greasier Twinkie...

[@Scotty_in_Ohio]

Lots of things changed their taste after "saturated fat" became a bad thing and the use of vegetable oil was used in place of other shortening like animal fat. The other possible reason is the use of cheaper sugars. Quite possibly the same recipe but with different equipment such as ovens, etc. the taste isn't what it used to be. Their chocolate products (Ho Ho's and Ding/King Dongs) seemed to be "off" for me too. The orange cupcakes are the ones I really noticed tasting different after 2012 as those were my favorites...

[@XxReptilesGalorexX]

Personally, I blame management. The higher ups will always screw over and gut the low end worker before they dare to give up even 0.01. If kicking out the people making sure the product reaches the shelf, means they get to keep their bonuses and make big bucks they will. Corporations are not friends to the workers or the costumers, they're friends to themselves. I work for DG, if i was to meet our ceo and tell em "i've been here for 5 years, I'd like to get paid a little more so I could own a small home", do you think he'd care? Hell no, he'd laugh and tell me to get a real job or fire me for daring to speak to him. Corp owners and runners are scum

[@britainsbestbased1696]

Lowkey, get a real job

[@dariuszenthoefer3758]

I'm an avid watcher of the history side of KZbin, so I love seeing some of the important cultural impacts that big companies have in our modern world with these videos. It also helps that you make the complicated world of business politics understandable to what would pretty much be entry level learners, while keeping it informative enough that I'm sure upon reviewings of each episode I'll learn something new again. Keep up the good work, I'm excited to start binging the backlogs and keep up with new releases!

[@raveallnightlong]

Hey! Friendly suggestion here. You often simply your explanations of the companies, but I personally would love a minute or two each video where you really go deep and don’t try to simplify anything. Tell us the crazy complicated situation. We’re smart and interested, hence why we follow your awesome channel :) Keep up the great work!! These videos inspire me to be better in my business.

[@Sir.VicSmasher]

He's gotta get the extra ad rev from having 10+ minute vids.

[@NoDeathforDinner]

I actually disagree. I like that he keeps them simple. Getting into too much detail becomes tedious and makes me lose interest. I like that he provides enough info that if you'd like to learn more you have a good jumping off point to do your own more in depth research but not so much that it becomes boring if you aren't interested in the finer details.

[@raveallnightlong]

TurboDieselDan he could make a 20 minute video for all I care. I love his company analysis

[@raveallnightlong]

NoDeathforDinner I understand your perspective. All I’m asking for is 1 or 2 minutes to take a bit and really go into some numbers, backstory, or whatever is relevant. How many times has he said something really interesting followed by... BUTTTTT IM NOT GONA BORE YOU ALL WITH TOO MUCH DETAIL. I just want him to go for it. Explain that logo’s backstory until we know enough to actually have a conversation about it. Jmo

[@TheGarmisch]

I agree

[@m.miller2374]

all their food is smaller now too, and the ding dongs are no longer in foil, and crumble too easy

[@MasterMalrubius]

LOL, you remember when they came in foil too? Those were awesome.

[@questwings]

i liked them when they had the foil too. they were my favorites. i was so sad when the foil disappeared. :(

[@coolhandchris5960]

As a kid eating a ding dong and throwing the balled up foil at my annoying sister is a childhood memory I cherish to this day

[@SL-cl9gt]

M. Miller I loved the foiled ding dongs

[@Firebreather719]

Off topic but my dads company works for flowers bakery as an independent distributor. Which distributes tasty cakes and the ding dogs are wrapped.

[@beerykids6703]

I swear my uncle and grandma are the only thing keeping that company in business

[@cmbuelow]

They had two problems: 1) little Debbie undercut them on price 2) with no effort to even try to seem healthy, mom and dad stopped putting them in kids lunches I grew up with hostess products sent with me to school. I did that for my kid and got a note from the teacher that said “send more healthy snacks”.

[@donforce808]

absolutely was delivering in 80's when Little Debbies came out--> they wiped the floor with us, eventually Supermakert bakery sections killed off Enternmanns

[@kansascitysouthernfan6966]

I remember going to the Hostess store all the time with my mom when we were buying bread, and I always had to have a cupcake. Ahhhh those were the days. 😢

[@CoderatheGreat]

Darn, what else are we going to eat during a nuclear holocaust? :/

[@chrispoland3637]

CoderatheGreat Lil Debbies

[@AnchorShip]

lmfao @@chrispoland3637

[@Randomark3087]

I was scrolling the Comments, to see if someone made that reference. lol

[@jrrobles79]

The Mexican version of twinkys "submarinos" , like in the movie zombie land

[@serglian8558]

@@jrrobles79 well i've never had one, they sound a little different so that's the 0.1% upside of the nukecaust

[@nunyabidness117]

A warm body can make Twinkies but it takes a very special skillset to save a company. $1.8 million to save a company as big as Hostess is minuscule.

[@ArtofBrandonTruster]

WOW, I was totally unaware of what happened to Hostess. I stopped caring about their product as soon as I was old enough to live on my own. My parents were the ones who bought all the junkfood, lol.

[@MikeS91712]

The new Hostess doesn't have the same quality as the old and is ridiculously expensive compared to Little Debbie. Used to get Hostess all the time but not anymore.

[@ericferguson68]

The old Hostess products were just as ridiculously expensive compared to Little Debbies. That is the obvious reason they couldn't make it. The unions tend to raise costs in a bunch of ways other than just the hourly wage. The references in the video to Hostess failures to modernize and automate are also linked to the unions. Doing these things would cost union jobs, so they just keep doing things the way they always did, and the competition can beat them on price every time.

[@JamesEvans-ow1wc]

Little Debbie’s are AWESOME. Quality through the roof and superb pricing

[@virgilio6349]

@@ericferguson68 Ah yes unions making everything worse. When will they learm their usefullness expired in the 60s?

[@virgilio6349]

@@davidesparza3637 Or better yet. Have no company to work for! Reading comprehension? Economics? What's that?

[@AndrewAMartin]

@@davidesparza3637 -- IIRC the unions already made big concessions in the first bankruptcy. Not their fault the management was incompetent...

[@yourfellowsimmer5368]

I'd like to see a video about why KFC is so trash in America but so good overseas. I tried it in America and it's just an oily, soggy excuse of food. However here in Iceland (and other countries I've had it) it's pretty damn good. It's a different topic but I think it could be a new type of series. Like what you talked about in your Toys"R"Us video. It may be gone from the US but it's still going strong overseas. I'd like to see more in depth videos as to why that is.

[@burntbacn]

Probably because different countries have different laws for their food, I know especially in Europe it's a little more strict than America, so they have to make it differently

[@yourfellowsimmer5368]

@@burntbacn yeah that's very true but then it's a question of other companies such as Toys"R"Us.

[@VinnyLam]

YourFellowSimmer I’m glad I’m not the only one who notices that American fast food tastes better in foreign countries. I’ve had KFC in China, Hong Kong, and Canada, and they taste better there than in America.

[@joshuakim5240]

I think i can answer that. Most other countries tend to have more lax food making laws regarding restaurants, so the cooks are able to cook the food in more appealing ways. For example, achieving a strong, crispy outside (that American KFCs seem to lack) requires re-frying fried chicken to increase the skin's rigidness which would add to the crunchiness, but that doesn't happen in USA fast food.

[@SlackActionBumble]

McFlurry at a Canadian McDonald's is amazing. In the States it tastes like sugary cold glue

[@user-dl3vn8ze9n]

I remember there was a phrase that said "The sweetest comeback of all time!" on the packaging for like 80 years. But I don't remember this being in 2012.

[@averyeml]

Those commercials with the bat flying into the hotel sign and the rhino getting the car stuck on its horn were lodged deep in my recessed memories. I suddenly remembered LOVING the bat one.

[@mzcytin]

"Just about the same product". Thank you for acknowledging that the current products being sold as twinkies are not the same twinkies we grew up eating.

[@Gloworm17]

I remember the 2012 shutdown. The company I was working for was a contracted to get the Hostess vehicles (as the video said, they REALLY were old) we towed more than drove because of safety from Columbus, GA to Atlanta to be auctioned off. It was a massive undertaking during a sad period. At one point I was just told to stay in Columbus overnight because of the massive movement. Wow, can't believe it's been 6 years.

[@bratticuss]

What killed Hostess? Greedy management killed the company.

[@badlydrawncars6460]

No, unions did.

[@Davtwan]

@UCdCpsSBTVpwL3eXHAOJMAQg - Yes, but they weren't the main reason. Hostess brought it upon themselves. They didn't update their equipment or efficiency for _years._ By the time they realized they had to update, their finances were already too low to support it. It's sad that they had to cut costs through wages as it was their only option at the time, but they could have prevented this with better long-term planning.

[@deepspire]

It was the union. Unions have become destructive.

[@Ash_W04]

@@deepspire Unions fight for workers rights. It’s only destructive because companies have become exploitive.

[@bobmarsh9571]

Ash unions were good during early 1900s, but they went overboard with their demands in 1970s and became greedy and selfish. that's what caused the US auto industry to collapse.

[@modernpoet3997]

This is one of the most interesting channels on KZbin.

[@GCJACK83]

In other news, Sears K-Mart couldn't afford to stay afloat, yet the execs, including Eddie Lampert, are all getting severance packages.

[@watershed44]

"Fast Eddie" literally is a vampire. Sucked the blood from Sears and K Mart for years by not investing in Brick and Mortar remodeling and online upgrades.

[@AndrewAMartin]

@@watershed44 -- Lampert just wants the prime real estate, the rest could go to hell for all he cared...

[@watershed44]

Andrew Martin That's what I don't get, investors and shareholders aren't stupid, why haven't they ever voted to remove Fast Eddie from his position. How he could have NEVER hired qualified retail management and continued to stay in charge is beyond me. Seriously it is bizarre that BoD, shareholders,and investors in Sears and K Mart didn't shoot him to the moon to get rid of him.

[@AndrewAMartin]

@@watershed44 -- Lampert is the largest single investor, and he's also the largest creditor. He owns the most, so he has the most say.

[@Wurmo]

Just another company who started out great, but became greedy with rich CEO's and workers who couldn't afford to live.

[@Googledeservestodie]

Outdated machines, outdated delivery system, outdated recipes. They didn't adapt, so they died. They can try and blame the strike, but every day they didn't upgrade was a day closer to bankruptcy.

[@gebs123]

I don't think the 3rd is an issue. The biggest criticism of the new Hotess is the taste is different. Everything else is spot on.

[@mikejones3769]

Yeah we watched the video too bud

[@oldgysgt]

With a very thin profit margin it is VERY hard to pay high wages and invest in new machinery at the same time. Most companies simply don't have warehouses full of money like Scrooge McDuck. Once you get behind the profit curve it is very hard to turn it all around, especially if one of your major unions is unwilling to help out. Most schools of higher learning simply don't teach "real world" economics. They usually teach students the only way to produce a product for the masses AND keep the workers happy is for the Government to take over the company. Never mind the USSR tried that and after 80 years it fell apart. Just like animal species, companies will come and companies will go.

[@joedaniels9730]

Wow get out of the fox news bubble already

[@Stoutaragua]

If management KNEW about the problems and DID NOTHING way before anything else, then it was management's complacency that brought Hostess down.

[@NWAWskeptic]

I worked for Hostess from 2003-2012 as a Route Sales Rep. We took cut after cut after cut after cut in salary/benefits. And they didn't pay into my pension for the final 9-12 months of the company. And I dispute the idea the Teamsters accepted the offer as I know drivers who never got a ballot. The company kept making claims they were going to modernize trucks/equipment and develop a new business model and it never happened. The company refused to even hear any suggestions from the Union that made more concessions, changed the model, modernized and even had our own financial backers. The company wouldn't even listen to them. I was working 55-65 hours a week(salary+commission so longer hours meant nothing in income for us) , in all weather in a 1982 delivery truck, making less than $50k. By FAR the lowest pay in the bread/confection industry. At the end I was working seven days a week. And yes, I delivered both bread and Hostess off the same truck, there were no union stipulations that prohibited it(as was the case in 99.9% of the branches), so you can reject that bullshit when an anti-union moron tries to make that claim. The union is 0.0000001% to blame for the downfall. The company had ZERO interest in sincere negotiations and wanted to bust the union from the beginning. And just to piss off the neocon assholes, because of the nature of how I lost my job. I got to go back to school for free. I got my degree without paying one dime, and collected unemployment for the entire three years(about 50% of my old salary). I was PAID to go to school for FREE. Now I am in a new career, making better money, fewer hours. But I still refuse to buy Hostess and will forever carry a grudge as a vast majority of my fellow 19,000 laid off workers did not have the luxury of taking advantage of the program and had to scramble to any blue collar/delivery job they could get. We were willing to take cuts and make concessions, but the company wanted us to work for what would have been around $12-14/hr. And I reject will great intensity that bullshit adage "Any job is better than no job"!! Certain jobs have a minimum fair and realistic base salary and there is no way that $12-14/hr was either fair or realistic. I would much rather let the company burn then whore out my life/labor for slave wages.

[@christineferreira2181]

I watched this because I honestly had no idea what happened with Hostess. One day I went to get a package of cupcakes that I have to have once in awhile and the woman at the store said all hostess and wonder products are gone. Now they’re back and I wondered how that happened. Thanks company man 😃👍

[@kolonarulez5222]

Twinkies are that snack for me where I think I want one until I get one and it tastes like a bunch of artificial flavors and preservatives. Rinse and repeat.

[@melmelcorvette]

KolonaRulez right idk I tasted the sugar crystals in it I use to like them as a kid but not now

[@TonyGearSolid]

I've always been the same way, I'll have a craving for Twinkies and then get incredibly underwhelmed when I finally eat one. They've always tasted fake, even back before they went bankrupt.

[@tobygoodguy4032]

Edith Bunker used to put a package of Twinkies in Archie's lunchbox.

[@ameliaroque3854]

Toby Goodguy. You gotta love them Bunkers :)

[@josephfrank1472]

Free advertising too!

[@passwordbosco407]

As a kid growing up in the late 1950's and '60's I LOVED the cherry fruit pies. Twinkies, Ding Dongs and all of the rest of them. Cholesterol be damned.

[@jc.1191]

You have excellent taste. I've been eating those cherry pies for 36 years now. Edible awesome in a wrapper.

[@JerAndRow]

I know I’m kind of late to this party, but it seems like you didn’t provide the same level of depth here that you do with your other videos. If possible, I’d love to see a follow up with more numbers and exploration of what specifically made the bakers union unhappy and how specifically Metropolis restructured the company to be profitable

[@ThePerezenator]

Can we get the rise and fall of Gap? They’re closing tons of stores right now. (EDIT) I feel special with all of these likes. Thank you. Merry Christmas and happy new year!

[@JS-po8oc]

Oh my God you're right. Now that you said it, it sort of just hit me. 2 Gap stores I live near closed. I would definitely like to see this.

[@hilbertsinn6886]

Gap? I thought their clothes went out of fashion when I was in high school.

[@ThePerezenator]

Hilbert's Inn lol, I’m not that old yet

[@rendopatto2751]

I was in a gap a few months ago it looks like a dieing store.

[@varietyhub2948]

100th like

[@pixalmated4853]

I blame richard simons. I believe there's a conspiracy around him, but i'm just too lazy to figure it out

[@naturesfinest4871]

I blame Megatron

[@sitdowndogbreath]

@@naturesfinest4871 I've blame Baba Booey

[@HeleneLouise]

Exactly

[@saveriosalemme5366]

I was also a addicted to Twinkies and now I can care less about them, they have definitely changed.

[@PyroNinja713]

@@saveriosalemme5366 It's much more likely that you, and your tastes, changed.

[@lander77477]

I remember in the 90s there was a low fat version of the chocolate cupcakes, I remember they did not taste anywhere near as good as the regular version

[@jeaniechowdury576]

Another excellent episode!

[@beaviswealth]

Is it weird to say that I've never actually tried a Twinkie in my life?

[@CapnCody1622]

Brandon Beavis Investing Extremely weird.

[@jarodh-m6099]

Not worth the effort. You have no missed anything.

[@chrispoland3637]

Fuck that Lil Debbie the shit

[@TheMisterbobman]

I don’t believe i have either my freind

[@skeletonz7924]

Brandon Beavis Investing you’re not missing anything, it’s just cream inside a bread

[@randomtinypotatocried]

Sadly, even the snowballs are disappointing now.

[@maximillianlylat1589]

There are some mexican knock offs of snowballs in mexican supermarkets. They are popular with the hispanic crowd they love sugary bread(and so do i)

[@sombrashibe]

I love this knockoff brand called Mrs. Freshley's version of snowballs and their chocolate cupcakes. They are great but super sweet. Ironically they are dairy free (so far). Since developing a dairy allergy they have been my go to.

[@AcmeNewsLLC]

One of your best videos.

[@carrotdankerdoodle9701]

i remember my parents and my sister getting a stock of twinkies and when i asked why they said that there were no more. i didn't like twinkies as a kid so it didn't really matter to me

[@sujimtangerines]

OMG my BF bought like 30 cases of Hostess products from somewhere here in Vegas (factory? distribution? IDK). We had them for long past the Best By date and let me tell you, those Twinkies do NOT last forever. I had one near the end of our stock and I never want to eat one again.

[@22quietmouse]

Could you please do a video on Macy’s? My mom has worked for them ever since they bought out Robinson’s May, and before that May company. I would love to know the history and if they are doing better now.

[@ingislakur]

He already done video on that.

[@FirstNameLastName-gv1fo]

Yes, please!!!! Macy’s & JCP are deadlocked as to who’ll die first in 2019

[@kewlztertc5386]

Remember "Broadway"?

[@judywright4241]

First Last --I gotta disagree with Penney’s being in a tie with Macy’s. Macy’s online is really strong, easy to navigate site, and check out is as easy now as Amazon. In comparison, we bought a new house and did get a few things from Penney’s who promptly sent it to the old address and trying to straighten that mess out was a real headache.

[@chinito77]

Macys will fold first because they focus too much one demographic, women who want to be hip. Unless they cut down the majority of store and focus on online shopping, I can't see them going much longer.

[@42luke93]

They shrank their products so much! It’s not because I’m getting older! I just know it had to be bigger in the past!

[@1978garfield]

The New Twinkies were practically the same size as the last Twinkies they made. I froze a box of Original Twinkies and compared them to the new ones. They were almost exactly the same size going by the label on the box.

[@SupremeNerd]

@@1978garfield how original was that box that you frozen? Was it 70s or 80s original or today's original? Cuz they're not the same

[@rubenfabela9285]

Cupcakes DEFINITELY got smaller 💯📠

[@Mr.Corinthians]

Has everyone seemed to have forgotten the recent past so quickly? Back when Obama was in the Oval Office, Michelle led a nutrition campaign against obesity and called for snack manufacturers to reduce the size/amount of product. It is just a nice "bonus" for these companies to be able to sell less for more.

[@emmazone2403]

A million views congrats!!!

[@rodneyjohnston6280]

I would blame it on the high-end people and the management they're the one that took advantage of the company and let the employees in the dirt

[@josephfrank1472]

They kept buying up other companies and had to much debt also, they also used even more crap for ingredients then they use to which made them taste like crap.

[@lightningstrikestwice2935]

By the way, I enjoy your channel a bunch! You solved questions that I never knew I needed to ask. It is interesting to know what happened to the companies. It also shows me / us that MBA degrees don't appear to be that smart! Seem to have a neck of running these companies into the ground. One day you'll be doing something about the demise of amazon. I hope it's sooner than later. Or maybe you'll get unionized!

[@samuelwoolwineiv7886]

Everyone is willing to cast the blame, but no one is willing to take the blame.

[@SodaSiren]

Management is to blame.

[@ShoelessJP]

Long live "Company Man"! Happy holidays everyone.

[@ajconstantine3593]

This channel is the best use of a business degree ... ever. 👏👏🤘🤘

[@MitchellShilling]

I remember hearing about this on the news when it occurred in 2012.

[@at0mly]

The Twinkie is dead! Long live the Twinkie!

[@Gerarghini]

🦀🦀🦀THE TWINKIE IS GONE🦀🦀🦀

[@EliteGeeks]

I bought it 2 times after the comeback, they sucked. nothing like the original taste

[@norgepalm7315]

@@EliteGeeks you can compare 2012 twinkies nutritional content to the return ones, and really not much changed other than smaller size + more preservatives, basic cost cutting stuff

[@Arcella1981]

i remember twinkies when i was little and some times here or there i would have one just to bring me back to that moment.... if that makes sense xD but i have tried the new ones and really i cant tell the difference they seem to taste the same.... or at least close enough to bring me back to my childhood...or maybe its all in my head and it just does that because it says "Hostess Twinkie's" on the wrapper xD

[@angeliquaserenity5009]

LOL!

[@jeenkzk5919]

Who remembers Dolly Madison?

[@ReviewCrap]

I believe they were part of Hostess at the time of the bankruptcy. I do seem to remember they had superior fruit pies to Hostess.

[@watershed44]

Jeenkz K I remember when Dolly Madison had The Peanuts Gang as the pitch people.

[@dalethelander3781]

Dolly Madison was owned by Interstate Brands, which was absorbed by Hostess.

[@watershed44]

Dale Thelander Weren't they owned by Beatrice before that?

[@dalethelander3781]

@@watershed44 Beatrice. Now, that's a name I've not heard in a long time...a long time. I honestly can't answer that question. Sorry.

[@sorvide]

It's weird that i got recommended this video of December 19 2019

[@RebelKitty19]

Why?

[@N120Xeno]

Probably telling you to not do what these companies do that went out of business.

[@ivanstone8721]

With as often as I used eat their 'food' I thought their decline had something to do with me not eating their cupcakes and pies anymore.

[@Clay3613]

The executives got greedy, simple as that. The cupcakes are way better than the Twinkies.

[@LincolnRon]

8:30 It was an excuse to loot the workers' pension fund. It would have been insane for a Hostess factory worker to take yet another pay cut. They would be doing factory work for McDonald's pay.

[@scottcarriere8931]

BUT you fricken moron, they would be still working. Now most are broke, homeless and on welfare. Yeah, that's so much better than taking a pay cut.

[@LincolnRon]

@@scottcarriere8931 Your logic makes no sense. They are used to working hard for low pay. Why would you think they can't get hired at McDonald's or Walmart? Same pay, less work. Bowing your head and getting taken advantage of, will only continue to make things worse for you. There comes a time when standing up to power is the right thing to do.

[@silverload3622]

Scott Carriere yes master I understand your bonus didn’t totally pay for your summer home and even thou we’re barely getting by I’ll take a cut in pay as long as it doesn’t effect my pride and dignity and self esteem!!!!!Who’s the Moron????Jackass

[@ameliaroque3854]

You will never know until you start your own business. Until then . . .

[@NotaPizzaGRL]

@Chris Ruiz Problem is the management wasn't being transparent for years. They shutdown the factories in order to break the strike. Then the new management came in and made sure that no union workers would work at Hostess.

[@megamike15]

i remember when my nephew was born in in 2011 i was thinking how he was gonna live in a world with out Twinkies. then everything came back to normal like nothing happend.

[@Luipaard005]

We heard about it on the news. My dad came home from work that night with a whole box.