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[@brettharter143]

These Adam Curtis streams have probably been some of my favourite on this channel.

[@mauicountygis5450]

It's a cozy listen indeed.

[@blu3_enjoy]

Some of my favourite on the net

[@cmc1517]

They're absurdly good, it's shocking that it's free to listen to

[@theadventuresofoldmort1746]

My favourite for sure.

[@mauicountygis5450]

@@cmc1517 The quality of British commentary is so superior to here in the US (besides perhaps Devon Stack) that I am glad to pay. Simon is a human encyclopedia.

[@zoidberg444]

In 1982 my mum was laid up with a splitting headache for 24 hours. When her foster father came home and found she was still in bed with it he went and fetched the doctor who lived down the road. He was really old school. He used to have a little morphine he kept on the side and used to make up a few of his own concoctions. Whatever he gave my mum it did the trick. He was an old school local GP. He knew everyone and knew that he must have been worried about my mum and she must really be unwell. You need that familiarity with your community to know who the infantile morons and hypochondriacs are who need to be told to sod off.

[@theladyfingers___]

Simon is one of the funniest contributors to any podcast I've ever heard. Just endless dry wit.

[@beegee9028]

"Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom" - Soren Kierkegaard

[@EhunterL]

In Sydney's North Shore, I grew up in a conservative little blue ribbon suburb (practically a Trumpton). Even in the late 90s and early 00s, the chemist employed a teenage boy to do weekly prescription deliveries on his pushbike. The petrol station employed a teenage boy to fill the tank and take payment. The milkman had a crew of teenage boys that would run the milk and bread to the doorstep. A younger boy would deliver the local paper twice a week. A teenager would deliver the pizzas. Today, the petrol station is gone and all these services are booked via an app through Uber/deliveroo or via a big chain of supermarkets. The delivery guys are not locals. They weren't even born in the country.

[@Poodz_]

And the teenagers are sitting at home with nothing to do.

[@1toneboy]

I heard wealthy wogs are pushing the Aussies out of the north shore and they’re now moving into formerly shithole places like the inner west.

[@jfosterdyess]

I’m so pleased the Christmas advert stream is going ahead! It’s always a highlight of the season. Now we just need the annual Christmas party stream as well.

[@kazapeach9487]

I wonder if more people would prefer Morgoth's more austere Britain if they were somehow made fully aware of all the implications of the path we are currently on?

[@chiefslinginbeef3641]

I've said this to the agape mouths of boomers that id rather be poor and living in an independent US South than what we have now. As they are nostalgic for my childhood I am too but I am willing to go back to dirt roads and no Mexican restaurants, they aren't bc they got theirs as they destroyed the childhood I remember. And it was the world of Never having to pay for gas until you pumped it. Kids rode in the back of the truck and noone cared. The only black ppl I ever knew were from families that had lived here for generations. I never knew a Mexican person until I got to high school. I literally knew everyone in my school.

[@ant-i6g]

​​​​​@@chiefslinginbeef3641That's what I sympathize with nationalism that your land stays the same and it has been always the same as you always known but immigration is actually a natural part of history as much as AA says history is inherently controlled by the government. Real good organic governments existed in the past even with monarchies especially monarchies. the south history is intertwined with Mexico as it is intertwined with the rest of America a good example is Texas which actually rebelled against Mexico and joined the US in that maybe that we can live in commonality with them as the Romans live with the gaelics changing them and transforming each other into the French today The fight against the changing winds of history is not terrible but in the end foolish

[@anasshatproduction2548]

Let's do a background check on those Russian oligarchs ....

[@Carmine985]

Leave don roman out of this

[@paulban889]

Early life is as you'd expect it to be...

[@_Dovar_]

All experts agree: every stream with Morgoth on is automatically 127,3% better.

[@chelps6411]

I love how Simon Roberts sounds so BBC but you know they would never have him!

[@TheFatController.]

I never watched any of these Curtis films when they came out, I totally switched off TV for years in my early 20s. Interesting to actually watch them for the first time here.

[@JonhDeesPickleJuiceCup]

Strange that this Isaiah Berlin character just shows up and is instantly accepted into the elite, appears on bbc, sent on diplomatic missions... so strange!

[@anonnon2278]

High verbal IQ.

[@theadventuresofoldmort1746]

Im so glad this series has continued. 👍

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

AAs treatment of Wifejak comments = Negative Liberty 😂

[@Frogindacity]

2:38:37 "... it was the only way to achieve his moral vision. The ends justified the means."

[@Frogindacity]

Currys defeated!!

[@AURORA08A]

A) I will happily wear the Chairman Morgoth Suit, and eat more corned beef, over the alternatives. B) Were Isiah Berlin and Eric Morecamb ever photographed in the same room ?

[@Pdstor]

1:27:37 There are, indeed, "little nukes." Aside from the famous micro-nuke featured on that video showing soldiers (all who probably died young) marching toward a small, nearby mushroom cloud, there's newer Russian ones fired from a kind of six-shooter device that hangs out on a missile launched in near-Earth orbit. It is supposed to be the ultimate bunker-buster, with each small-payload nuke having a mechanism that drives them deep underground prior to exploding.

[@fus132]

MIRV's?

[@lukie-world]

"Sorry to pause it again" - but this was a fantasy 🤣

[@bellphorusnknight]

All of the indian, that one callcenter with british staff did it 😅

[@RichardEnglander]

I remember rag-n-bone still early 90s, also the doc house visits, the coherent population

[@ralfsta]

The younger generations will never truly appreciate what they have lost

[@robertmartin6800]

It's always so depressing when older people talk about the stories their parents used to tell about how much better our societies used to be. It always reminds me of the animals in Animal Farm desperately trying to remember if things had always been so bad, and the pigs always lying about how much things had improved while making them worse.

[@georgeseverent180]

On Morgoth’s theory on aliens, check out the ‘grabby aliens’ theory video, which posits that our existence without alien invasion is due to us becoming conscious ‘early’ in the lifetime of the universe

[@FeHearts]

1:48:34 N. Korean refugees have difficulties understanding S. Korean because it is full of slang and American loanwords. Also if you look at North Korean news the news women wear traditional clothing not western cloths.

[@orenalbertmeisel3127]

2:17:02 incredible to see young Jeffrey Sachs after seeing many interviews with him the past 2-3 years

[@anonnon2278]

Interesting how his policies enriched his coethnics! Weird huh!

[@scottanderson3967]

Thanks for that stream. I really enjoyed it. I'm now stripping wallpaper thinking about what freedom actully is ..

[@mrdog4529]

In our area there is still a van that goes round playing the music from Steptoe and Son to alert you to its presence.

[@bartolo498]

Letter at 2:32:43. What I hate about this age, could probably be summarized by the fact that a letter from a Prime minister to the 88 yo scholar Berlin is addressed as "Dear Isaiah", not "Dear Professor Berlin" (died Nov 5, 1997, so no surprise he didn't reply).

[@AAs1995TeachersOpenLegs]

Luv Morgoth, simple as.

[@haydonhockey]

I love the tangents that this panel goes on. Morgoth and Simon are fantastic guests.

[@tdowell8615]

The cantillon essay shows why manufacture always leaves the developed world and that the worst feeling to the people is to lose standard of living.

[@David-ct1rd]

At 21 minutes, I was worried I went deaf.

[@mikemironov7551]

Thank you AA for introducing us to Curtis! Thank you Simon and Morgoth for your commentary and context! This streams are highlight of my week

[@darrenelkins5923]

The cry was, ‘rag bone.’ Known as the rag and bone man

[@cyberninjazero5659]

2:18:00 He's talked about a good number of times in his current work and even on Judge Nap. He says he wanted to make things better, but USG said No, kicked him out of the whole thing and worked with his students who were much more willing to put in the screws

[@freenarnia6913]

Iranian birth rates have collapsed and Persians are now less than half of Iran's population. Many of the Mullahs including Khamenei are also Turkic Azeris, not Persian.

[@kazapeach9487]

@@freenarnia6913 thats interesting, I didn't know that. Do you know what ethnicities make up the rest of the population?

[@freenarnia6913]

@@kazapeach9487 The largest ethnic group is Persians, followed by Azeris and Kurds. There are also several other Iranian and Turkic ethnic groups such as Balochis and Turkmen, as well as a small "Arab" population Kuzestan. AA if I remember correctly is a Luri, which is a Iranian ethnicity.

[@kairos_fluent]

I guess for the Turkic groups they would be more marginalized under a secular nationalist Iran dominated by Persians so it makes sense they would be more supportive of the Islamic republic.

[@AcademicAgent]

Is that you dad?

[@willgoins218]

Paul Bremer was a managing director of Kissinger and Associates before he became the Governor of Iraq

[@darrenelkins5923]

Great panel

[@lyssp.hacker3948]

36:53 People in normal times actually had a chance to become proficient in something real. This is the point of not having easy access to becoming something you are not (pariah) and having ability to pass your knowledge to the next generation. Most European men are natural peasants and artisans. You are never bored, there is always enough work to occupy you, and it is actually challenging to survive in realistic conditions close to nature (what bushcrafters are trying to simulate today) and to create something with your own hands which people around you actually need. You mostly do not have to worry about self-improvement (bourgeois invention) and will somebody draft you, because you have not saying in war (that's for warriors). Realistic life in short.

[@seabeebillm]

The greatest part of all of this is that not a single one of these fools that has destroyed so much of the world has ever been held to account for any of their criminally bad ideas…

[@martinledermann1862]

Isaiah Berlin was actually born in Riga, Latvia, not in St. Petersburg, Russia, but his family moved to Petersburg shortly after his birth.

[@lyssp.hacker3948]

01:29:26 "You have to have somebody who will say: 'I want power'". So much titanic energy in that statement. Where true differentiation of energies exists between men, natural hierarchy is created spontaneously. Yes, competition between groups of men in that hierarchy exists horizontally and vertically, but if there are men who have "something else", which in normal times amounts to noble blood and initiation, everybody positions himself in his natural place. In that situation, those with power are those who are supposed, or even born to rule and command.

[@tastypymp1287]

Made of the 'right stuff.'

[@monolith94]

Nigel Farage is not the Vladimir Putin that Britons need. Does the English spirit still produce such a man?

[@tastypymp1287]

Neocons were not about 'spreading democracy around the world.' Unless democracy is an euphemism for opening up markets of new consumers to exploit.

[@jonfranklin4999]

Slop was great,, most y.t. Vids are slop... Best wishes,,..

[@markroberts6403]

To Morgoth's point about less material wealth: The British public were given that choice during the Brexit referendum - less wealth in exchange for sovereignty. They went out and voted in record nos for Brexit.

[@tastypymp1287]

I don't recall that being the offer.

[@markroberts6403]

@@tastypymp1287 Were you asleep during the whole thing? The only thing the Remain camp talked about for 3 months was how we'd be poorer. People went and voted for it anyway.

[@tastypymp1287]

@markroberts6403 No, that's incorrect. Morgoth asserts this as if we were given a binary choice. That's false. The Brexit campaign asserted that it would bring more wealth because of the sovereignty. So no, I wasn't asleep you jumped up little shyte.

[@BronzeAgePuritan]

YOU MAKE YOUR OWN MEANING! THAT'S THE WAY IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN!

[@MeatloafAnderson]

Mrs Crabapple was also a fan of Woodrow Wilson

[@somethingblank1589]

Good stream.

[@tolpacourt]

Of course there are small nukes. Some of them are call "battlefield tactical nukes." The Russians and Americans have a wide range of warheads. The problem is how to prevent escalation. Small nukes would lead to bigger nukes and then everyone launches every missile they possess. The idea of winning a nuclear war is to destroy all your enemy's missiles before they are launched and the only way to achieve this is to launch everything you've got.

[@CivilizedWasteland]

Have you ever read the book A History of Central Banking and Enslavement of Mankind? It doesn't cover much about Stalin but it does offer some deep insight as to why he might be the bearer of all the soviet's crimes.

[@churblefurbles]

Its called a sobering strike.

[@lyssp.hacker3948]

36:20 In normal times which basically means realistic times, most people have no choice than to listen to those above them, bearers of Tradition or nobility. Life in normal times is hard and most people have no capacity to make the right thing enough so that they survive. Imagine if all of the mistakes people have been doing during the last N decades, were done in the Middle Ages. You are dead after few of those gazillion mistakes you can make today. This is the point of nobility, lead by priests in warriors - first and foremost to help everybody survive with some dignity.

[@Zidana123]

2:15:20 he's so young... look at that hair!

[@asumazilla]

Rag and bone man, coal deliveries, fizzy pop man.

[@stan1050]

The birds pecking the foil milk tops for the cream at the top of the glass bottles

[@tastypymp1287]

Woke absolutely does have an end destination. Equality to them is when each individual considers every other a viable proposition for all things. Love, sex, business, friendship, pleasure. It doesn't matter. Complete inclusion in all things. You will consider anyone a viable proposition no matter their characteristics. Economically, you'll own nothing and be happy. And that includes heritage, historical, social and cultural wealth. No private property and that includes everything beyond the material.

[@lyssp.hacker3948]

41:28 "If it is a choice, people will go for that". Which people? Mass man, former peasant, of mostly non-Aryan race, yes. Men of nobility, much harder. Proof for that is every traditional historical cycle. How come Europe did not have shopping centers for 1000 years during the last European cycle? Simple answer is that priests and warriors are not interested in that. They naturally live "more than life" which then creates more realistic kind of environment which then peasants and other more common men live in. There is no way to constrain titanic, materialistic and solipsistic nature of non-Aryan men, but it can last hundreds of years.

[@ClearTOut]

Ferdinand Marcos' son, Bongbong Marcos, was recently elected President of the Philippines.

[@DevastationMtrsports]

Re: Jeffrey Sachs I wanna say he was in good faith and others were not. Bill Browder comes to mind. Clearly there were agency operations involved then and ongoing today. Great show this one is

[@DoctorDejay]

The best one yet

[@porchtime504]

This was such a good stream.

[@bartolo498]

Briefly, the main difference between Stalin and Mao and the US in 1990s Russia and 2003 Iraq was that the former performed their economic experiments on their own people.

[@rogierb5945]

The USSR was an 'american' experiment.

[@thomascubitt543]

"The tyranny of choice"

[@chiefslinginbeef3641]

Aren't they just describing the ideas of the foundations of the US?

[@Carroty_Peg]

Christmas ads!!! yayayyayayay 🎄🍪🎁 🎅🎄🎁☃

[@dramares]

2:06:35... Morgoth!...

[@geladaas9879]

"We are on the right" Literally defending Stalin/communism lol

[@Straighten_edge]

Long live Putin.

[@chelps6411]

38.00..great

[@lyssp.hacker3948]

55:20 "Stalin was brutal". That's very bourgeois position. Communists tried to "transcend" bourgeois mindset and "brutality" was one of the consequences. Warrior lords were also very brutal from the bourgeois perceptive (listen to their songs). They also had anti-bourgeois attitude, but oriented upward, not downward, as is the case with Communists. I think people should be more "tolerant" toward totalitarianism of the Left. What else can you do in a situation in which you killed, robbed or silenced nobility and higher bourgeoisie, and being left with the undifferentiated masses of peasants and workers. The only solution was exactly the system which was established in USSR and later elsewhere in the world. It was very honest, much more honest than soft-totalitarianism of liberal democracies.

[@fus132]

"Rooting out the enemies of the revolution" through quotas is barely more honest, and still far far away from Truth.

[@tastypymp1287]

Terrible take.

[@Deuter666]

The Testament of Dr. Mabuse is great. Especially the scene where the Spirit of Criminality and Corruption comes and speaks to the Inspector.