The Defenders & The Obi-Wan Movie - The Weekly Planet Podcast

[@BBmetalhead04]

Here's how I rationalized Daredevil being a better fighter than Iron Fist: Danny learned to fight from the monks of K'un-Lun, who were very traditional and isolated from the rest of the world. While this way of fighting is effective, it limits Danny on the kinds of moves he can use. Matt on the other hand was taught by Stick, and combined his fighting style with boxing. This unique combination of fighting styles makes Matt unpredictable and harder to read. That being said now that Danny is outside of K'un-Lun, he has the potential to further his fighting prowess (similar to how Captain America became a better fighter after Avengers).

[@tommyoneil9128]

That makes a lot of sense actually

[@Wolfman7870]

Possibly, also Daredevil has heightened senses that allow him to hear his opponents heartbeat, footsteps, breathing patterns, gutteral noises you make right before you attack, etc, all of which combined allows you to sense when an opponents is about to make a move and makes it easier to counter. Kinda hard to sneak up and surprise a guy like that. Iron Fist is a kid that went through a traumatic accident and coped by forcing a foreign ideology into his head in an isolated setting. Magic fist aside, he still has human senses which means Daredevil would outclass him.

[@benedicto2031]

Cap could always fight like that. He didn't become a better fighter after avengers

[@BBmetalhead04]

I don't know rewatching the First Avenger/Avengers and comparing it to the Winter Soldier, there's a clear difference in fighting style.

[@silashenderson1628]

BBmetalhead04 Plus, Danny was angry and wasn't thinking clearly. Matt is the more experienced fighter as well.

[@BScalesguitar]

I didn't really understand what Danny Rand was, the untouchable steel palm or something?

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

Scales91 No. Danny Rand was the Immortal Iron fist, Protector of kun lun and enemy of the hand. *Repeat*

[@jaysonpereyra1593]

It's Over 9000 Productions and repeat

[@quasarone3083]

He's the immortal IRON FIIIST

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

He is a fucking terrible character. Simple, isn't it?

[@ant.onio.n]

He's the immovable Bronze Knee, stupid. He's the protector of Kung Fu and enemy of all handymen.

[@Whiteythereaper]

Also with Defenders, Matt fell into the Substance while fighting Elektra at the end and there is a very long lingering shot on him being covered in it. Since he was alive when he got covered and wasn't fully submerged, he might not be immortal but was revived after the collapse

[@Patrick-jj5nh]

didnt pick up on that....cud be the case. also i read/heard somewhere else the nun calls for maggie at the end which SPOILERS is matt's mum who isnt actually dead.

[@toddtripoli1861]

So these dragon bones are holding up the city. You can cut them w a saw?

[@jchanel04]

Spoilers: Can someone with demolition expertise tell me why blowing up the building doesn't level New York, considering the cave with the dragonbones is what's holding New York together?

[@Sophia-jj3kc]

kinda irked me how jessica jones was able to follow matt and take pictures of him doing parkour without him noticing

[@hcole3201]

Same. Like he can hear heartbeats but not a fuckin camera 10 feet away?

[@blockyyoda4353]

I think that cinemasins mostly do it ironically. They smash every movie they do including movies they obviously view as masterpieces.

[@martinnaranjo3185]

Exactly

[@EasyCure0]

Exactly this; it's even in their tag line "No movie is without Sin" Maybe I enjoy it cause I like to nitpick movies, including ones I enjoy, cuz no matter what no movie could be perfect, but yeah it's all meant to be a joke. Those Bonus Rounds are HILARIOUS.

[@jakejutras2733]

Jack Graham the whole thing just goes over your head dude. NOTHING they say should be taken seriously and they admit this themselves, including technical issue sins. Watch the EWW Cinema sins. Edit* I notice you are using the word critisize, they are not film critics and they do not do reviews or film critique.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Not always. Take Force Awakens for example, that movie has obvious flaws all over it, even if it is fun at the end of the day. Considering how that channel nitpick everything, the fact that Force Awakens ended almost unscathed was such a bullshit. I never watched anything from cinemasins ever again, they are just inconsistent as hell and the jokes became repetitive. Recently I was curious to see cinemasins featuring Guardians of the Galaxy 2. This movie has a tremendous excess of childish jokes, it's basically a retarded cartoon that many people like it for whatever reason. I am curious, but I will not waste my time again.

[@Nick_Hammer]

exactly, jeremy even sinned his favorite film.

[@gaarawannabe]

"Its midnight Mason, its witching hour were all gonna turn into pumpkins.." Cracked me up so hard! You always make my Mondays mates!

[@thereccher8746]

Daredevil has super-human senses and reflexes. The moment Danny moves a follicle of hair on his skin, than Daredevil knows he's attacking and how. Danny may be a technically better fighter, but Daredevil has enhanced abilities. He can dodge bulletfire. Expecting Danny to beat him in a fair fight without the IF is ludicrous.

[@barryscott9590]

Kill grave meets death. Killgrave: what? Death: you're dead Killgrave: NO I DONT THINK SO death: what? Killgrave: No I'm not. Make me alive again Death: *snaps fingers* Yes!

[@LEO-iv5nu]

makes sense

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Literally, Killgrave is the only decent character in Jessica Jones. Remove him and the show dies right there

[@sethcaramello6804]

+Rafael Teles Lmao did you even watch the show? Jessica Jones was ridiculously good, the whole thing is a character driven drama and every character that mattered was on fucking point. You're just one of those assholes that likes to complain about everything to make you feel like your opinion is important. It's not.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

You sure have low standards, lol I watched the show, even if it was difficulty to stay awake. That random policeman? Damn, he was ridiculously good. Stoic, bad actor playing Cage? Incredible.

[@barryscott9590]

slendernyan I posted it on a video 3 days ago. I also commented it on a Reddit post. As far as I'm aware, it's OC.

[@KingOfMadCows]

The best parts of Defenders was the interaction between the characters and how they play off each other. The plot and the villains were very disappointing. The Hand leaders were just not interesting or effective villains. The reveal of their plan was very underwhelming. In fact, they seem to have gotten less powerful and competent since season 1 of Daredevil.

[@alexmott507]

KingOfMadCows Yup. As weird as it is, my favorite part was them sitting around, talking in the Chinese restaurant. The story as a whole didn't seem to carry any weight for whatever reason.

[@trevvonhiggle1980]

KingOfMadCows the interactions were definitely the best parts. The villains started off cool, but really went out easy.

[@peterstangl8295]

Even that wasn't that great all the time. There was too much of it. Too much talking about "what should we do" and such, and then some punching in dark alleys. I mean i enjoyed certain parts, and the interactions where still the best part, but as a whole, Defenders is a huge letdown.

[@victorgrubbs5213]

The villains WERE interesting and that's the most disappointing thing. They were all unique, but the show didn't allow them to flex that. They underpowered the villains like they do in pretty much every other MCU project and it's really disappointing. Give them a challenge. Sigourney Weaver was chilling until you realized that she couldn't or wouldn't do much of anything. I'm just disappointed with The Hand as a whole

[@cesarf.g.9996]

The thing that really confused me was that Luke cage was never shown capturing Sowande. I imagine that would have been a great action scene

[@TheMasterJCL]

Mr sunday, the implication is that Electra got matt out and left him in the hospice his mum is at and Gao mentions how the dragons are free roaming in her homeland so the dragon bones would be unlimited when she got back to kun lun as long as dragons are still fucking and such. Also you could just keep beating up shao lao the undying and taking a wing while he's out since he's undying

[@freakinbitxh]

Stick was going for the handcuffs and missed cause he's blind

[@ant.onio.n]

That's canon.

[@Tystarr]

My thing is , what happened to the ninjas from Dardedevil season 2?? We never see them again. They should have been all up in Iron Fist and Defenders.

[@Bl00dwerK]

We don't need another "Oh shit, I'm so old and tired." Bonds. We need a lighter-hearted, feel good Bond. He needs a win.

[@nathanwaldo8382]

When the hip hop during the final battle started me and my friend weren't sure if there was a speaker behind his tv playing it

[@4ndr38r1x1]

There's a scene Danny Rand walks into an alley and he puts on a hoodie and that's clearly just so the stunt double does the fight scene, just after that he removes the hoodie.

[@---sq2hj]

The adverts are the funniest parts of the show

[@patrickmike2524]

It just seemed for The Hand being an international group there wasn't many henchmen. If they were getting to a critical stage of extracting all the bones wouldn't they have more guys. Also I thought like that lock that Iron Fist opens (because he's a big dummy) was like taking them somewhere else? Like a gateway? Like they weren't in New York anymore and that was why that shot shows the bones they are in and comes up above them to see the skull and it doesn't look to be underground anymore

[@Patrick-jj5nh]

Patrick Mike yea didnt they say at some point it would allow them to return to kun lun??

[@thatonestormtrooper2760]

I feel people miss the point of cinemasins. They're being hyperbolic. There whole gag is going after every movie even movies they like. Not to mention they aren't all negative even when making fun of movies they still come across things that detract from their "sin" counter

[@TheLastComa]

Yeah. Literally 30 seconds in any of their videos and theres at least a sin that was clearly a joke or a reference. I have no idea why people take them so serious. Also this is a really old comment I'm commenting on.

[@Barrydavillain]

I love how everyone hated the Wu-Tang Clan music in the end fight scene. SMH

[@Patrick-jj5nh]

it just didnt fit at all..... idiotic decision by director/editors

[@condimentking3395]

Barry Jordan There's music in the show?

[@ant.onio.n]

Didn't fit. Much like my--

[@rolandojasso9700]

Barry Jordan I liked it, it Made sense to me, they are new yorkers and their whole career is based un Kung fu Will make more sense in the ironfist solo series but I liked it here

[@yourdad1751]

Totally a Luke Cage thing, didn't fit with catholic vigilante and drunk white chick fighting in a dark cave

[@JCResDoc94]

54:44 absolutely. I thort it was me. (hiphop outa nowhere)

[@themisadventuresofchucklon1731]

Edit - I forgot my biggest complaint so I'll leave it here at the top. What's with all the spinning during fights? Not flipping, spinning. And why does everyone keep talking mid-fight? I've started re-watching DD season 1, and he doesn't spin or say anything during fights unless he's questioning someone. And only Nobu and Fisk spoke. Nobu to show respect and Fisk to threaten before being KO'ed. But in The Defenders it's sentences that don't lead anywhere like "You're going to lose" "I'm going to win" "you don't understand" "I understand" etc. etc. That's why it felt more like a CW show. The Hand leaders were incredibly boring. I didn't watch Iron Fist so I had no idea who Wing's mentor was, and when Alexandria mentions the fifth leader, I was expecting a super badass Nobu-esq ninja that even she was intimidated by. But no, it was just some Arrow reject with moose in his hair. Also I was disappointed that Gao was suddenly telekinetic(?) In DD season 1, when she knocks him on his arse, I thought she was a martial arts master that used balance and leverage to execute perfect hits. Nahhh, she's just telekinetic, yawn. Luke Cage falls into the same pit he falls into in his own season, where he's cool at first but the sight of him taking a punch, shrugging it off, then throwing a dude gets boring real fast. Iron Fist was fine but definitely a dumbass. If he gets a mask and starts being a vigilante then I'll watch season 2. Jessica was great but her fighting The Hand was a bit ridiculous, given their training and swords vs her usually being the strongest in a fight and thus never really having to learn how to fight. What? They couldn't land one hit with a sword? Which means she is incredibly lucky or The Hand are incredibly shit. Daredevil was fine, no real complaints. How good was it when he beat those two guys with shotguns as Matt Murdock? Pretty cool. Actually, whats up with his mask? He clearly has some kind of black balaclava on under the red mask, but when he takes off the red part, there's no balaclava underneath. Those were my criticisms of the season but ultimately I enjoyed it because of the goodwill they've earned in DD and JJ and it was still a lot of fun! I didn't hate it, I just didn't love it. It's just a shame it felt like a CW show. (this probably seems like a rant, and it probably is. But NO ONE I know watches this stuff so I have zero people to talk to about it and I needed to put my thoughts somewhere) Thanks for reading you beautiful wack-a-dee-doos

[@yourdad1751]

The Misadventures of Chuck Lonestar I'd watch 13 hours of Luke cage decking mofos, getting shot in the face and protecting harlem any day.

[@roppa127]

The defenders was bullshit. I didn't really like anything in the show. I have only liked: daredevil s1 and jessica jones 1 and legion was okay.

[@themisadventuresofchucklon1731]

Your Dad - That's half the problem, he doesn't deck anyone, he just pushes people.

[@thebatman8815]

I agree that it did feel a bit more like the CW shows, which sucks. But hopefully Daredevil season three will continue to have amazing stories and realistic/gritty fighting.

[@RicardoMoralesMassin]

Don't feel bad at all. I read your rant and I agree. I completely agree the show had a low impact for what was expected. tbh after Luke Cage and specially Iron Fist the bar dropped several notches. IMO the thing is after DD 1 you can't replicate the shock of having such a well made, grounded series. Which is why DD 2 was not equal to the first. So what do you do? You go in another direction (like only JJ did succesfully) I think Defenders was not bad but it got sandwiched between the excellent and the shitty, hence = CW-ish.

[@JimmyGoodYT]

Great episode. I respect your commitment to the show even though it was a late night recording!

[@Blank-jt3nj]

Wu Tang playing at the end got me hyped

[@watchingrob]

Dude, I love this podcast!

[@DarkachuWasTaken]

I didn't know about to cinemasins/director drama, that's good stuff. I especially liked where he drew a definitely not thin parallel to trump. Great work all round there

[@Heiying13]

In episode 4 of The Defenders Netflix gets a Chinese translation from Iron Fist wrong. After Jessica asks him "You Speak Chinese?" the subtitles mistranslate his mandarin as "You can trust us." but he actually says "Of course." He's even looking and speaking to Jessica when he says it.

[@ajmckeown7337]

SPOILERS FOR THE DEFENDERS I think when it comes to the fight between Iron Fist and Daredevil, while I agree they should build up Danny as a better martial artist, you can justify it by looking at this way: Danny has more training then Matt, however Matt has more experience being in real fights where it's life or death. We see Matt develop as a fighter between season one and two of Daredevil. He's more weathered, he makes less mistakes. That being said you would think a guy who beat a dragon to become the iron fist would be able to defeat Daredevil. Just a little fun analysis

[@---sq2hj]

the defenders theme wasn't loud enough

[@thescarletflower]

not sure if you read this or not, but I just feel like I should point out that Stick never knew what the Hand wanted with the Iron fist, his only clue was that he is the "key" to unlock something... so he did not explain anything because he did not know anything

[@arararchstanton-7307]

Also, they never said the city is supported by the dragon bones. They said the process of acquiring the "substance" would destroy the city. Presumably that's more than just removing the bones. Also the Earthquake came from the excavation required to access the door, and perhaps trying to open that door via explosion, which is why they learned they needed the Iron Fist.

[@RicardoMoralesMassin]

Ok when the Defenders of the Earth theme came on, I had to push the Like button.

[@spamsfilms]

On dragon bones: how are they holding up the city? Surely the room that iron fist opens completely surrounds them... otherwise why don't they just dig down on the other side of the wall? Surely it's the room holding up the city and the contents has no baring on its structural integrity

[@NexusJake97]

I'm surprised they didn't talk about MI 6 Tom Cruise thing, because it would've been a perfect opportunity for Henry Cavil to grow his mustache back lol

[@coalhalo]

Jacob M They have in a previous podcast

[@NexusJake97]

coalhalo no they talked about the reshoots for justice league and how henry can't shave cause of his role in MI 6. Tom got injured since the last podcast. Which could've gave Henry time you regrow it

[@tgc1635]

thanks mitchell!

[@matneo27]

The hand seems very disjointed, the "fingers" were powerful heads of their own organization, but when they came together, it seemed like they weakened each other with their strife

[@krusnik94]

I kind of want to create my own product to have The WeeklyPlanet endorse it with their genius sell pitches

[@evaweiand310]

It's turtles all the way down

[@CW257866]

I don't the the bones are holding up the city, rather the stone you need to remove which surrounds the bones do.

[@zaelhurtado8661]

Mason would be great at Cinema Sins

[@johnnycotton3217]

Damn you ads stop spoiling my enjoyment of the planet

[@quasarone3083]

CinemaSins is not meant to be taken that seriously, even movies like Mad Max Fury Road (which the CinemaSins guys love) got an 18 minutes video! Its not actually a mean-spirited thing

[@bamannpiderman]

Yeah, but that's easy to see for the guys who make Cinema Sins and their fans. It's not that easy for people who like, or even make, the movie. For the latter, it just sounds like an asshole made an 18 minute, edited, apathetic, and jaded tirade about the filmmaker's work. It kinda stops being a review and critique when the critic rambles just to shit on things they didn't make and have nothing constructive to say.

[@Borat69able]

MovieNerd_EP I think most people see that but the problem is that, CinemaSins just isn't funny or entertaining to watch. I legit watch them so I don't have the watch the movies itself.

[@thatonestormtrooper2760]

bamannpiderman to be honest if you can't take it you shouldn't be a creator. Just get out now. Because you won't last

[@FatherDyer1990]

Borat69able what a terrible existence you live

[@OrphanHart]

disagree, it's very funny and entertaining.

[@mathiaswalker350]

What if Stick just would have cut off Dany's hands? Would he be the immortal Iron Stomp?

[@Shmichael]

Please do an extended version of letters

[@Shmichael]

I would 100% buy it on itunes

[@FilmScoreandMore]

You can find so many fan-made letters themes on KZbin. They might be extended.

[@clubdonk9651]

this for 200th

[@moondustmix1682]

Please try to do one of these live. I would love to be able to interact with you guys on topics like this.

[@jinxie712]

Obi Wan movie: Taken on Tattooine. He has to rescue a toddler Luke.

[@mongeeses7112]

I’m going through the backlog of podcast episodes and I was caught off guard by the Defenders of the Earth song. For future folks, it’s currently part of the intro and I don’t even know when or why that happened.

[@bwabadoe]

I thought the spoiler thing beneath the city was just the be all end all goal of one of the hands' fingers, one of them pretty clearly states that it's just part of the road towards their actual goal... this is hard to explain without spoiling stuff jeez.

[@bbrbbr-on2gd]

57:30 Corey in the house ography, just say this.

[@samzheng5803]

I feel like Stan Lee feeds off whatever the Hand uses to stay immortal.

[@ImDeluxeSP33some]

There better be clones in the Obi-Wan movie or we riot.

[@JCResDoc94]

Why when they would spend centuries to get a guy w/a magic hand for a door, would they not dig through a building's rubble for these dino bones. Also...daredevil got out just fine so...

[@Jtant]

25:43

[@aaronski108]

Thanks for making be the official luke cage of the podcast!!

[@manuelcolon5374]

How do I listen to your podcast on a android phone

[@aaronski108]

Manuel Colon spotify or go to planetbbroadcasting.com

[@michaeldannibale5744]

57:27 😂😂😂😂

[@jewishburgers]

It's obvious that it was Doctor Strange that saved Daredevil

[@TommyWest.]

@1:00:42 We all turn into pumpkins... Or carriages... Or hobos.

[@user-lp3ew1xb5u]

... you guys do the best ads

[@sanjayraju988]

3:51

[@HamzaBoujelouah]

I thought when Danny and Matt fought each other it was more that Danny could hold his own against Matt for a little. Idk it didn't bother me as much

[@TheAlphaFilmz]

I paused this and finished the defenders just to hear your spoilers

[@schuylerwest7909]

24:09

[@Jholl53]

Obi-Wan could go offworld once to save a Jedi but it goes wrong then he stays forever in the desert fighting huts, living and household

[@stanslausmanthi]

Nothing is perfect cinemaSins helps me see some of the small errors that I may have overlooked.

[@harryallsopp9136]

LEGEND OF THE SWORD WAS GREAT

[@olasarcasm]

OUT OF THE SKY HIS ROCKETS IGNITE

[@ryanstrong3241]

I genuinely love Sahara, so sad it didn't turn into a series.

[@Zaznayka74]

Where do I even get 10 friends, it's insane!?

[@moondustmix1682]

I thought for sure that they were going to say that there was a door to kunlun under New York City and it wasn't just about the dragon bones. That would have made more sense especially given the fact that all the members of the hand kept saying is that they want to go back home so I didn't think at all that it was just about dragon bones I thought there was a door to kunlun under New York!?

[@PramitChatterjee1993]

Jeez! After all this years, people who take Cinemasins seriously are infinitesimally stupid. Some of them are legitimate and some of them are just whimsical but it is for fun. He doesn't "choose" his targets, he literally does it for every movie and if you go through his Twitter feed...HE loves movies. So joke's on them who think he's mean-spirited in any way, it's just his USP.

[@Whiteythereaper]

Honestly Cinemasins can rubbish a film pretty good but at the end of the day they mean it in good fun. They've torn apart some of my favourite films but it doesn't alter my view on them or lessen my enjoyment.

[@korakys]

The Defenders was very dark, literally.

[@OrphanHart]

Sonic Mania was made with the love from talented fans that Sega hired to get the job done since Team Sonic couldn't do it themselves. It's neat.

[@Newadventuresinpony]

Gremlins 3: Maximum Puppets!

[@jakeus2575]

This was not in my sub box! Fuck good thing I always check this channel out anyways

[@Prophetelf]

Got that notification, ready to go!!

[@charlesmalone1342]

You guy are brilliant! Thanks for keeping my spirits up during this hard time I'm going through!

[@TheDeadlysyns]

Riverdale is not a Netflix only show. CW makes Riverdale Netflix just distributes it outside the USA and Canada i think.

[@calkestis5817]

Electra is apparently harder to defeat than a dragon 🙄

[@yjinkscrawler]

I hope Ben edits a video about you talking about Ben editing videos.

[@GrantSamson]

Holy shit! Ten seconds after the upload and I'm not even notification squad

[@sultanofswing44]

I dont think you clearly marked spoilers.

[@vsauce4678]

Loki as bond would be great

[@evanweaver2876]

I actually did notice the green screen on that elevator fight scene. Sorta was distracting

[@HereForTheComments]

Kong Skull Island deserves all the sins. If there ever was a more boring movie, I don't remember it. Because it was too boring to remember.

[@danieljohnston6013]

gotta do a superhero showdown for #200

[@melvinlinderoth7108]

Warning they don't say spoiler alert

[@RealMrGlizzy]

elektra is the one who saves matt not the other way around.

[@LegendMkr7]

The Avengers technically don't exist at the moment, the events of Civil War was basically them breaking up.

[@joshuagwynne3090]

Daniel Wellington be pissed.

[@mattsoethout7657]

I liked it a lot. Only problems I had was that the hand except for Gao didn't really feel ancient. Also I felt like the show focused on the wrong side characters, in particular Colleen Wing was just annoying and whinny for the most part and was just there to get in the way, and while I don't mind Claire as a character but she has been pushed a bit too heavily and I could use a break from her in the next few series. Can't wait for Daredevil season 3 and Jessica Jones season 2. I really want to see what those character have been up to.

[@cartoon80s90s]

I think all Marvel Netflix shows should be 10 episodes. They would be balanced better and we would not have to hear again the 8 vs 13 debate.

[@thegoofystoic]

I KNEW YOU WERE A PUMPKIN

[@isaacllyr4572]

I enjoyed the defenders my main problem is that Luke cage is about as strong as hawkeyes wife and iron firsts iron fist is about as hard as kingpins fingernail. They nerfed all the characters wayyy too much

[@andrewhowsmon6216]

SUPERHERO SHOWDOWN OR BUST

[@plucas1]

The Defenders MCU just had a whole huge criminal organization that specialized in bringing people back from the dead, and they did get away with some of the 'substance.' It could be that Gao or whoever was left might just resurrect Kilgrave just to fuck with Jessica Jones and the other heroes.

[@Jay-ru4wz]

Didn't make fun of iron fist enough