The Definitive Remakes: Pokemon Heartgold & Soulsilver Vs The Originals

Heartgold and Soulsilver are often heralded as some of the greatest Pokemon games by fans. What sets them apart from their originals?
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[@JPRPokeTrainer98]

What do you think of Pokemon Heartgold and Soulsilver? Do they hold up?

[@magicman612]

Love your content bro

[@abhiaviation6263]

I think HGSS are two of the best games to date but I believe ORAS is just a little bit better

[@adrianpetrillo8725]

Their solid but definitely overrated imo

[@MJ-sy2en]

I've never played them but as a music maker they provide a great soundtrack.

[@heldon7951]

They're the best games in the series imo, jam packed with various ways to play, amazing music, a whole second region, a great final boss, and lots of great content like pokeathlon, follow pokemon, pictures, etc.

[@tickyj45]

the absolute best parts about these games are having shiny pokemon follow you + the automatic running feature

[@HistoryandReviews]

Lmao who cares about swapped colors 🤡

[@HistoryandReviews]

@Zhongli shinies are worthless color swaps

[@VitaTheMerm]

@@HistoryandReviews who cares what you think 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@nishantbhaskar7685]

@@HistoryandReviews How dare you

[@KnaveADV]

@@HistoryandReviews exactly I don’t understand why people lose their minds over shines

[@primorock8141]

HGSS are not only well-done remakes but some of the best Pokemon experiences, they hold up better than even the newer games.

[@c0mpu73rguy]

All older pokemon games except gen 1 hold up better than post gen 5 games.

[@gaylordcomic]

@@c0mpu73rguy it's probably the jump to 3d

[@ironpyrous5787]

@GHZ J2691 They would not have enough room for all of that !

[@c0mpu73rguy]

@@gaylordcomic Probably, good 2d holds up better than bad 3d, the ps1 generation being the proof. I don’t mind that much since I grew up with it but oh boy are these games ugly compared to ps2 and later titles.

[@Jdudec367]

@@c0mpu73rguy that's not true as the 3DS games hold up well, so it would be post 3DS era. And gen 6 and gen 7 aren't ugly.

[@DrPOP-jp7eb]

As someone who swore GSC would be my favourite games forever, I am happy to say HGSS stole that spot. It's the perfect mix of staying true to the originals and nostalgia, while adding amazing new features and SO MUCH POLISH. So much effort is put in these games and it shows.

[@playmaker349]

Damn sounds like ur clouded by nostalgia, hgss were my 1st games and i like them but there average at best like b tier

[@ShinyShilla]

@@playmaker349 Im also clouded by nostalgia but HGSS were really good, and I say this as a Alola n°1 appreciator

[@playmaker349]

@@ShinyShilla i mean everyone has a game which they r clouded by nostolgia with mine is mario and luigi partners in time

[@donniedinero]

@@ShinyShillasame

[@fansee1368]

The one thing holding this game back was Johto itself If the actual mons from the gen were all in the region instead of (somehow) being in Kanto, and the Team Rocket plotline wasn't cut short so early, this could've been the definitive Pokemon experience

[@robstanley46]

They’re so good they’re hard to find anywhere in the world today

[@BraxtonSharkboy]

Glad i still have my soulsilver with pokewalker

[@Rika24]

Yeah, because everyone who has a copy loves them too much to sell lol. I’m happy I still have SoulSilver and my pokewalker, but I wish I got HeartGold when I had the chance (I so badly want to do a nuzlocke but I don’t want to erase my original save file (especially all the special pokewalker locations I can never get back if I do).

[@vaporterra]

@@Rika24 It’s still a bummer for people who had their games lost or stolen though

[@fenixrises9854]

This is why I have a flash cart with roms for my 2DS 😉

[@mariksebastianishtar207]

(+@@vaporterra) True that. It hurts so badly. I wish I could buy Gen 4 games off Nintendo for the original hardware again. My Pokémon Diamond game was snatched the same day I got it as a special present. Don’t get me wrong. I wasn’t careless. I still have my DS Lite. But, I was a defenceless kid. I had to play Pokemon Pearl/Platinum that weren’t mine at the time instead. 🤦‍♂️If that wasn’t the case, I’d still play the game to this day. Probably with 999:59+ hours.

[@darkraiisdaddy1389]

Along with og DP these games were peak nostalgia and held the true essence of Pokémon.

[@mesieurt2]

Plus the makers specifically said for gen 4 " we tried to stuff as much content as possible into these games to make them the best ever" Quite the change since then when the makers say [we didnt think the consumers would spend time on this game so we didnt put much effort into it]

[@magnus5747]

@@mesieurt2 they also said that gen 5 was the absolute peak, but fans were being stupid because of a dumb ice cream

[@ausar6761]

@@magnus5747 I'm sick of people hating on unova just because it had some meh pokemon. It's not like unova is the only region with some bad mons

[@magicman612]

Oh yes daddy

[@Jdudec367]

@@magnus5747 when did they say that? People that disliked gen 5 didn't just dislike it because of the ice cream pokemon.

[@_freebirdnerd]

Collectively and individually, these two games have occupied more of my life than any other Pokémon game.

[@brandonw6139]

Fax most replayable games to me

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

Same

[@foxbear60]

I'm 34 and have been playing Pokemon since RB. I can 100% say that HGSS was the greatest Pokemon experience for me, followed closely by the BW games. So many minor touches like the Pokathalon and Battle Frontiers make it replayable for ages!

[@MasterofTheUniverse1337]

I'am 30 and my First Pokemon Game was Gen 1 Blue but the Remakes of Gen 1 and 2, Emerald,Platinum and Black and White 2 we're my best Pokemon experience.

[@foxbear60]

@@MasterofTheUniverse1337 - Black and White were amazing games for sure. I played the originals with 8-9 of my friends all getting the game at the same time. We all took the nostalgia trip together, and it made for some memorable times.

[@MasterofTheUniverse1337]

@@foxbear60 Nice my Friend👍🏻😁

[@henrymorris8945]

HeartGold was so amazing to play. I’ve been playing through it again and have been hit with some amazing 2010 nostalgia.

[@jemas4918]

hgss are masterpieces 👌

[@t9foggy]

🤨

[@samsamtherising]

@@t9foggy ✨✨✨✨✨✨😁😁😁😁😁😁😂😂😂😂😂😍😍😍😍😍🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[@killax5628]

what’s the hype about them? they still have the same issues as GSC but with following mons and more post game

[@zjzr08]

@@killax5628 The videos already said it - despite it's issues they had so many things to make the games more interactive and fun, unless you're the type of player so focused on the main story, that you won't be able to fully unlock its potential, when IMO the main story is only a small portion of playing Pokemon games.

[@killax5628]

@@zjzr08 postgame is important but it’s additional, HGSS’s main story is almost unplayable tbh i can barely get through the game because of the level curve and on top of the story being nonexistent and the useless gen 2 mons, they added more evolutions to the old mons just for them to be post game, if HGSS was released in the modern era of pokémon it would be hated on.

[@castform7]

10:38 I agree 100%. These reimaginings of characters are nice. Some of my favourites include: Morty: Actually feels like a Ghost gym leader with the more ominous vibe. Really like the scarf. Jasmine: A nice sort of upgrade from the GS design. I really like it for her. Claire: I really like the lighter blue they went with for her outfit and that cape always rocks. Pryce: He kinda went from bland old man to an old man with a cool coat and a sweet scarf. Karen: She is FINE. She can *insert popular Karen trope* on me anyday. Lance: It may have been small but it makes big difference. This is a man that gains your respect by just looking at him Silver: Same with Lance when it comes to small changes doing big things. He just feels even smugger now which is really good for him. Rocket Exects.: I love these redesigns. They went from generic to having their own identities. It was really good for them especially Proton. Love that hat. Lt. Surge: This man evolved from a chad to an ultra chad. The sunglasses really work for him. Blue: I like how mature he looks. Like he's gotten his life together after his loss and is chill with where he is now. Really the only redesign I don't vibe with at all is Misty but I can see the appeal. Overall, my favourite redesigns in Pokemon remake history. Still though, R.I.P Kris. Guess her design was too 90s to modernize like Ethan and his Caprise. I like Lyra better anyway, just sad they had to put the first female Pokemon protagonist down for like 20 years until Masters came and used a Max Revive on her.

[@KremBotop]

Yeah, this game's redesigns/glowups are great. The ones that needed the most change (Morty, Pryce, the executives) got great updates and the rest remain just as good and memorable, probably even more than before. (Though ditching Kris altogether was a bit too harsh) In contrast, I'm personally not too keen on a few of the ORAS redesigns but I can say that this game handled this topic perfectly. Btw, the color of Jasmine's dress seen here doesn't match with what one can see in the game itself and even as recently as in Masters, there it's green instead of light blue.

[@castform7]

@@KremBotop Ya the redesigns in ORAS were very hit or miss for me especially when they hit it out of the park so well here. There are still some good ones like Brawly, Maxie and Flannery just to name a few of the ones I like. And I went to check on the Jasmine fact and you're right. She does more of a green rather than her light blue character art. Even in Masters. That's interesting.

[@KremBotop]

@@castform7 Wonder what JPR thinks of the Hoenn redesigns when he reaches ORAS though. And I suspect that the color change on Jasmine's dress was a late decision after the art was already made. Or maybe green came first for the sprites, then it was almost changed to light blue but in the end it they settled with just keeping it green. I once did a dress recolor in photoshop for quick comparison so check it out: imgur.com/a/LXv0B06 Btw, A TCG piece and her DP anime cameo features her with the light blue dress, but the green one is in any other recent appearance of her, possibly including BDSP if her cameos are kept. Hopefully we can battle her at some point if she returns.

[@castform7]

@@KremBotop I think JPR will find them fine. There's nothing really super bad about most of the time. I think maybe the art came first and there might have been a bit of a mishap with the sprites to where it's more green then light blue but they just kinda rolled with it in every other appearance she made. It's not like most people would notice. I didn't until you pointed it out and I looked for myself. I do like the more accurate recolour though. Light blue, green. She looks great in both. I don't think we'll be able to tell if she has green or light blue in BDSP since everything's top down and chibi so the only way we'll know for sure is if we get a close up conversation with her or a battle. I'd like the battle cause it's always nice fighting a strong opponent. Maybe it could be for the HM she gives you (at least I remember her giving me an HM.)

[@zjzr08]

@@KremBotop Official art in Pokemon seemingly feels like they're dull colored for some reason which is seen in Pokemon color textures - the anime and Let's Go and seemingly BDSP are using a "richer" color palette to me and I much prefer that approach than apparently copying Sugomori's lighting.

[@lordpent]

To defend Johto's tendency towards Gen 1 Pokemon, here's what I have to mention. For one thing, all the gyms use types that didn't have any in Kanto, so they at least have that newness to them. Most importantly though, back in Gen 2 there was no such thing as a regional dex, just a reordered "New Pokedex," so it makes sense that the game didn't make a point of showing off all the new Pokemon. This was the first time new Pokemon and old would appear in the same game; modern expectations of how that should should have been handled couldn't have applied.

[@zjzr08]

I will say the Flying Gym should probably be late game at the very least, we already see so much of Pidgey and Hoothoot's line early game, it can get stale seeing it again in the first, hehe.

[@unwithering5313]

I know right, those people are like the ones that hate Sonic Adventure for lacking the boost formula. Gen 2 was supposed to be more of a sequel than a standalone region.

[@geoshmeo1900]

The problem is this is the REMAKE of the OGs, it is less excusable here than it was in the when GSC released. This is a very half-baked excuse at best

[@killhouse6130]

Exactly “the gym leaders didn’t have enough gen 2 pokemon” is absolute nit picking

[@geoshmeo1900]

@@killhouse6130 thats not nitpicking, that is honestly a genuine criticism. Like hell, the Kanto leaders have more Johto pokemon than the Johto leaders

[@Bash70]

9:39 HGSS gave you both autonomy and nonautonomy actually. The Kimono girls would lead and summon the mascot legendary as part of the story line but then the player would have to go and discover the other by themselves. It was a good mixture. 10:22 You can enter the elevator in Silph Co if you have Rotom. It takes you to a room with the appliances to change Rotom's form. 11:46 Unfortunately, you don't get the GB sounds until the end of the game. It's actually impossible to hear the 8 bit version of team rocket battle theme without hacking because the organization disbands before you get the item.

[@TrvisXXIII]

Thank you for dropping new content man, it’s always a pleasure

[@JPRPokeTrainer98]

Thanks for watching!

[@MJ-sy2en]

@@JPRPokeTrainer98 Unique and intresting content to add, not just the same recycled stuff over and over again.

[@connermorlan7881]

Heartgold amd Soulsilver are my absolute favorite pokemon games ever and I still haven't explored their entire content yet! I definitelly plan on playing these games again soon

[@lordpent]

One time I rounded up all the gym leader rematches at once for a final boss rush. Even knowing where and when to find them all and when to call them, it was not a fun process... The boss rush itself was at least fun after I finished the hours (yes, hours) setting it up.

[@garbotoxins840]

I disagree with the point about wobbuffet early in the video. It's actually one of the best pokemon in the game arguably. If it survives a hit, then you win. It's extremely useful on any team.

[@DakotaofRaptors]

That's a huge if. Wobbuffet is cool but there are more consistent Pokémon to select from

[@joeysmith1077]

Remember when Gamefreak went the extra miles? Pepperidge farm remembers.

[@joltx9909]

Regarding evolutionary stones, I would put a fire stone in burned tower (but in a place that requires strength), a thunder stone at olivine lighthouse, a leaf stone at azalea forest (in a place that requires surf) and a water stone at one of the caves, maybe in slowpoke well. it feels balanced to me, and that way we can train pokemon like victreeble, vileplume, arcanine, ninetales, jolteon, flareon and vaporeon without doing pokeathlon or waiting until post game

[@toxicperson8936]

As unbelievable as this may sound, I think the reason they didn’t put the evolutionary stones until post game was because they wanted people to evolve Eevee into Espeon or Umbreon, & to evolve their Gloom into Bellossom with a Sun stone instead of into Vileplume. It’s a stupid & petty reason, but I don’t see why else they would have done that.

[@jamiemckell34]

Best pokemon games full stop. Loads of routes and really feels like you are exploring. Catching my Lapras (one of) in that cave on a Friday, catching my Sableye via the Professor Oak radio, doing the bug contest on Tuesdays to get a Shiny stone for Togekiss... Getting the level 1 Giratina at Sinjoh ruins (use the wide event method in Platinum & transfer Arceus). By far the best Pokemon games for me, if only they made this on a sun & moon engine. I think you hit nail on the head. Ironically, it's the heart and soul that's in these games, that makes the huge difference. Gen 6 onwards feel shallow and lacking something, despite all games having some great things, no other pokemon game feels this complete.

[@iRazenrak]

They could've had an Ice Rock in Ice Path and a Moss Rock in Ilex Forest or Viridian Forest, or both.

[@tejasgokhale7783]

They also could’ve let eevee evolve into glaceon and leafeon in those areas respectively

[@alibaba3568]

@@tejasgokhale7783 That were their implications...

[@thewindysage1538]

Maybe also a magnetic field in mt moon to evolve magneton into magnezone

[@metageek7878]

I love the pokathelon, we need more side areas like that with pokemon doing more than just battling. Like pokestar and contests too

[@katieb9428]

The GB Sounds is such an underrated feature

[@Rika24]

U forgot to mention the pokemon following u! Yes I know Yellow did it with Pikachu and another let your starter follow u in a special area (can’t remember exactly, Platinum maybe) but it’s the only game u could have ANY pokemon follow u. Even Let’s go Eevee and Pikachu limit u to Kanto only. I hope this feature returns in future games because I miss it.

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

In dp and platinum some pokemon could follow you in amity square but was more limited in dp as in platinum was when you could walk with your starter at any stage as they were not able to in dp. In let's go you can actually walk with Meltan and Melmetal too who are gen 7 pokemon. Briefly in gen 5 you can walk around a Mienfoo in B2W2. Finally, we must not forget that we can walk with pokemon once again in Sword and Shield in the Isle of armor and Crown Tundra. I'm hoping it continues in the dp remakes even if it is just in Amity Square but at the same time I'm hoping we can in legends arceus too!

[@DakotaofRaptors]

@@PkmnTrainerEmerald they have hacks that enable Pokémon to follow you for Platinum

[@shadowmarauder6033]

The johto games are great, but they have 2 giant problems: they don’t focus on johto and grinding sucks. Even though it’s in another region, these games are treated more as kanto games. Just look at the gym teams. No skarmory, sneasel, hoothoot, or ariados? Seriously? In the grinding section, why can’t I rematch trainers until team rocket is defeated? It doesn’t make any sense.

[@Acacius1992]

And thats two reasons why I dont like the gen 2 games. Dont forget Jotho isypretty small and bland and the Future Kanto is still just badge collecting

[@relo999]

what most people out of Japan forget/don't know, is that up until gen 3 the "lore" of pokemon was that the pokemon world is the real world but where pokemon where relatively recently discovered (like a century ago) and where myths and legends functioned largely like they do in the real world but with modern science suggest that most have a pokemon origin. Within that context GS makes a LOT more sense, it becomes more "we found more pokemon species in in this other region and we found more in Kanto as well" rather than the modern view of "these are Johto pokemon". Pokemon like Houndour and Houndoom are Kanto pokemon that where discovered within the timespan between RBY and GSC, rather than being Johto pokemon, within the original pokemon lore. It also explains the new pokedex, rather than the regional dex's and gym leader and just the general lack of new pokemon in Johto. And on top of that explains the original goal the professors gave you, record and collect the new pokemon. Rather the dex in modern games functioning more like a wikipedia page of known species within the context of lore.

[@aesir1ases64]

@@relo999 Good point!

[@owenstanyon6960]

I have never played a remake but i like the idea of Pokémon following you in hgss

[@jwanie366]

13:14 definitely agree you on that. Honestly Johto is super overrated imo because of how much it relies on Kanto. The only reason Game Freak was so ambitious with Gen 2 was that they thought it would be the end of the Pokémon franchise as a whole

[@galactwicderinstabile]

As far as I know, generation 2 is seen as the worst older generation, I do not know who overrates them.

[@CHRISrnbWORLD]

@@galactwicderinstabile I think he means gen 2 is overrated because it includes a run through kanto aswell and not just rating jotho individually.

[@galactwicderinstabile]

@@CHRISrnbWORLD If it would be that, I would still disagree, but see the point. Thank you for explaining ^^

[@CHRISrnbWORLD]

@@galactwicderinstabile Just interested. Why would you say it's still the best even if kanto wouldn't be there?

[@galactwicderinstabile]

@@CHRISrnbWORLD Well, I certainly hate the gen 1 games as wel as the starters, due to charizard getting so much attention and never really felt the gen 3 games. It has more to do with the gen 2 pokémon, though I do adore how gret hg/ss are. So I guess personal preferences and gen 1 and 3 getting way more love.

[@Zistheone2]

Here’s hoping BDSP will at least take some aspects from HGSS like sprinkling in Platinum content or updating the NPCs movepools

[@KnightRaymund]

I worry they'll be more like fire and leaf and be too literal.

[@compatriot852]

My fears and current prediction is that they won't update anything at all. It'll be a watered down game Just look at Barry for example, he runs into you and they didn't even bother to animate any collision

[@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ]

Honestly we didn't even need to get BDSP. Just a single platinum remake Honestly, this whole double version thing needs to stop. It has no purpose anymore, and just gives us watered down experiences that cost more money

[@joeyfuze174]

I think the reasoning for lack of gen 2 Pokémon in gen 2 is because they were billed as newly discovered Pokémon instead of the Pokémon always been here like newer gens. My theory is JoHto probably had the same dex as kanto for a while until gen 2 Pokémon started popping up. Hence why most are so rare

[@AdeptCharon]

me throughout gen5-6: "all the things that hinder HGSS from true greatness are tied to being too faithful to the originals" me after ORAS comes out: "...sure they're less faithful in the sense that there's more original stuff added... but the parts that ARE faithful were with the completely wrong approach (using the outdated/inferior Ruby&Sapphire that Emerald already spent an entire games worth of development to improve), and adding new stuff on top of that just made the misguided approach (IMO) even more jarring... HGSS were great times ):" me when Sinnoh gets confirmed: "oh no, please even just slightly surpass my worst nightmare expectations and include the Platinum Sinnohdex x_____x"

[@lloydirving6209]

i agree oras sucked

[@roseb3556]

Im sure you were disappointed upon BDSP being far too faithful to diamond and no platinum QOL updates or content. Underground buffs are meh but do enough to beef up the team u can make in them but does nothing to fix the gym leaders having crap types(fire gym having only 2 fire types)

[@fernando98322]

And you even forgot to go into detail for Contests, Pokéathlon, following Pokémon, special new events like Legendaries and Steven Stone gifting a Gen 3 starter, the best Safari Zone of the series, the Voltorb minigame outside Japan... I can go on.

[@iRazenrak]

2:16 "Hardly any other Pokémon bring anything substancial to the table." *looks at my Eevee getting a haircut during the daytime* Don't listen to the bad man, Dawn.

[@BayBerry1337]

My first game was Soul Silver, and I got up to the Suicune static in Kanto, where I handed the DS to my twin sister to play. She deleted my save because she wanted to save her game... needless to say 8 year old me wasn’t happy lol.

[@CeoOfBettt]

Thanks to me having access to Platinum alongside this game I was able to get some evolutions for a playthrough I otherwise wouldn’t have a chance to get in a Johto playthrough like I was able to use Scizor, Electivire, Magmortar, Togekiss, Mismagius, Weavile, Houndoom, Gliscor, and Rhyperior which helped make the playthroughs more fun cause the teams felt unique

[@patricklatham3897]

Well, if you evolve Eevee at night, you get a dark type. It's the only dark type you can get before going to Kanto, but its there.

[@zeteq6766]

Well, Vaporeon, Flareon and Jolteon are not dark type And you can use an evolution stone on Eevee at night

[@JamTube01232]

@@zeteq6766 I... Umbreon??

[@DakotaofRaptors]

But no Glaceon...

[@Soynereh]

I really really wish Gen2 remakes were made with the gen5 engine instead.

[@iloveanmieandcartoonsyesth8891]

That would be nice

[@imperialwyvern]

I wish the more recent pokemon remakes were like Heartgold and SoulSilver. 😫☹️

[@compatriot852]

This is how you do a proper remake. Updating the game's graphics, story, and adding new elements that were never in the originals Kinda sad that Gamefreak forgot about this and it's really obvious in BDSP as they seem to be removing things rather than adding.

[@ilngsisfh]

… lmao BDSP literally added: Following Pokémon anywhere, platinum dex, access to Pokémon that were post game on main game, character customization

[@CEDL0W]

@@ilngsisfh I’m looking forward to playing BDSP. But for now besides the platinum dex there’s no signs of any of platinum’s content unfortunately. I don’t want Platinum to still be the definitive way to play through Sinnoh after BDSP releases.

[@thesleepyravenclaw6260]

I’m so thankful I never got rid of my legitimate copies of HGSS. Silver was the first Pokemon game I ever played, so Johto has a special place in my heart. I restart HeartGold often for shiny hunting reasons, and my SoulSilver has a completed National Dex. I loved Gold, Silver and Crystal; I love HeartGold and SoulSilver just as much if not more.

[@jetern1569]

The best play through with the most fun things to do

[@ScarletDeclan]

What about having every pokemon follow you including if they are shiny. That experience was phenomenal. I loved finding out my swinub felt nervous in the ice cave despite being an ice type. And other things like that

[@dgray5100able]

The director of HGSS himself played the original GS as a child and wanted them to be as great as possible by recapturing the spirit of the Gen 2 games while adding on so much. He stated in interviews that the team got greedy with adding in so much content into these remakes as physically possible.

[@xpotatohamster7051]

8:50 about the phone calls you don't have to wait for them(a myth everyone thinks) you can straight up call them for a rematch and fight them over and over again at the times they're available, so while it does act as a bandaid to the leveling, it doesn't fix the level curve tldr:they implemented the vs seeker into the pokegear and it's a garuanteed match too infinite money, vitamins, and evolution stones

[@gregorygejoff1628]

I couldn't even get through the entire video before i found my favorite part. Witney has a johto pokemon and it's very well documented... UNDERSTATMENT OF THE YEAR!

[@ethancampbell9096]

Let's count the things I learn in this game that I've put 200 hours in out of this video... 1. Can rematch gyms 2. Can get gym leader phone numbers 3. Battle between player/silver and lance/Clair 4. Has gameboy music

[@Kronos327]

I 100% agree with all your „complaints“ about these games They’re still amazing of course but these make me choose platinum or gen 5 over HGSS when replaying a Pokémon game

[@jaretco6423]

Same. I will always have an soft spot for these games. But I rather play Platinum or the Gen. 5 games over HGSS. Even though Platinum is slower, has overabundance of HM'S and some difficultly curve at the end that I despise, I still can have an easier time there than I did with and the level curve isn't as bad as Gen. 2 was IMO.

[@Kronos327]

@@jaretco6423 exactly!

[@kingofhelllucifer1626]

The reason I believe why only a handful of gen 4 evolutions are in the regional dex (5: Mammoswine, yanmega, tangrowth, ambipom and lickilicky) is because those chosen have one thing in common: to get those evolutions, their pre-evolution need to learn a specific move. My guess is that they wanted to be as faithful as they could with the structure of the regional dex, but didn't want to do like in FRLG by preventing their evolution if they learned the required move, so they compromised by adding those five only to the regionlal dex since you could potentially get them during the main story.

[@matthewesposito6973]

I remember soul silver quite fondly but don’t also don’t rush back to play it the way I do kanto, hoenn, sinnoh, and unova games

[@segunthepikachufan1470]

It's the Gen 4 game I think I'd go back to vs Sinnoh which I could just watch the anime

[@popnpets8022]

Why is going to the anime a substitute☠️☠️

[@segunthepikachufan1470]

@@popnpets8022 cause it's where the region really shines sorta similar case for Kalos as well when speaking about Sinnoh

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

Yup same for me. When the anime was airing, I actually didn't have a ds so I never played the games until the last few months in gen 4 where I got ss for Christmas and platinum in January before the shiny beast events. While Sinnoh was fun it was certainly better the anime for me and ss was so much better in terms with content and other factors.

[@mrgaudy1954]

@@PkmnTrainerEmerald I played a Sinnoh game (Platinum) for first and second time last year and- while the game was very good- the region just sort of felt “meh”. Just not very memorable with a few notable exceptions. I can barely remember any of the town names even as the game just rushed you from gym to gym with no incentive to linger. Contrast this to HG/SS and B&Y where the world has so much more character and feels more “lived in”.

[@denistuohy2535]

IMO Heart Gold and Soul Silver are by far the best Pokémon games there’s so much to do, there’s an extremely large Pokémon roster to catch and choose from, everything looks really good, the music is good the whole game is very good.

[@joltx9909]

My favorite pokemon game to this date, and in my top 5 RPGs and most loved games overall. stellar graphics for the time, loads of content, great difficulty level, battle frontier included in the post game after a freaking another region with so many caves to explore with waterfall and rock climb... really, the only thing I would change is putting some johto mons earlier in the game, like houndour or misdreavus, instead of putting them in kanto and scatter some evolution stones - like a fire stone at burned tower for example, so we can get motivated to try different teams without relying on pokeathlon or post game areas. but aside from that, an amazing game. the only games in the franchise that can give it some proper competition over first place are black 2 and white 2, which share lots of the same great things these games had. pokemon at its finest

[@galactwicderinstabile]

Thank you for giving gen 2 some love

[@IKEMENOsakaman]

Wooooo my childhood is here! (I'm actually the first generation)

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

Yeah I will say that these games while not perfect certainly has a lot for anyone looking to play though johto once again. The only bad part is that we sadly have lost some options like the wifi capabilities. Oh I feel like you should have talked about how it came with the pokewalker!! That was one of the best additions these games brought!

[@Icup200169]

IMO 1. Platinum 2. Heart Gold Soul Silver 3. Black/White 2 4. Emerald 5. Leaf green/Fire Red

[@ZehnWaters]

I get that people don't have access during the playthrough to some Pokémon but am I the only one who TRADESS?

[@JohnsonSaUceZach]

I used to trade as a kid. I think that’s how it was intended. Not everyone had friends, or multiple systems/games to trade with, so it’s understandable

[@Josue-wj2uf]

I don't have friends to trade with lol

[@ZehnWaters]

@@Josue-wj2uf You could trade online.

[@Josue-wj2uf]

@@ZehnWaters i dint have the best internet connection in 2010, the UI for online trading in gen 4 was ass and I was also a dumb 10 year old lol. Real question tho can you still online trade in gen 4? I'd be down for another HGSS playthrought if the servers are still up

[@ZehnWaters]

@@Josue-wj2uf Oh, that's fair.

[@swetsTV]

I have a Slugma in HeartGold right now ! You say it’s “unattainable” but that’s not right. You have to speak to Primo & give him the right phrases. I have all 8 secret PC wallpapers & the 3 secret eggs. One of which is a Slugma.

[@viniltummala2860]

I love the photo feature with the Gym leaders

[@SirLolcat]

Trying to get through SS right now. What a chore to get through.

[@miguelzorrilla8767]

Alright, you got me, I’ll subscribe.

[@lazypaladin]

I hope whoever came up with GB Sounds got a nice big bonus 👌

[@MJ-oi6ul]

Gamebiy Version of Gen2 Surf Music is probably the best ost of Pokemon ever!

[@Josue-wj2uf]

I have a love/hate relationship with these games. I agree that these are the most content rich, fleshed out games in the main series but the lack of quality team building just kills it for me. I get the most fun in building a cool team of pokemon I never used before but in these I always find myself using Typlosion, Red Gyarados, Amphoros and Lugia/Ho-Oh. Its the main reason why I've played XY more times than these ones. Even though XY are objectively not good, there's so much variety in team building that no two playthrough feels the same (asuming you ditch the OP kanto starter mega and mega lucario). I appreciate the faithfulness to the originals, but I think for the sake of replay value and modernizing the games they should have massively reworked the availabilty of pokemon in the regional dex. I'd even be ok with adding gen 3 and 4 pokemon but I know that fans of the ogs would have not liked that.

[@zjzr08]

With things like Kanto added, I think the replay value is that you shouldn't consider the main story as the main dish, but more as the appetizer - and with Battle Frontier at the very least, it is IMO.

[@jaretco6423]

Joseu. I understand. I like having to built an team with an mixed of good type coverage and many numbers of the other variety type wise; whether if there new or old Pokemons. Most likely an new ones. But don't have an problem with old ones coming back either just as long as the selection and variety to the mixed works well. I have an problem with that since Gen. 2 and wasn't until Gen. 5 and onwards where they got it perfectly. Even with the first Black & White game that only focus on newer Pokemons before postgame. And even though I know the 3D ones aren't as good as I hope it'll be, I'll give them credit for adding more number variety mixed into the Pokemons that I still hope it continues.

[@lewis523]

Hgss would have been so much better being remade on the switch. So much more potential

[@castform7]

For me the biggest problem was the overreliance to Kanto. Without Kanto stuff, GS would feel like Johto team Rocket. A Torchic without a head. It didn't stand on it's own. The Johto Pokemon that weren't the starters, Amphoros or Quagsire sucked or were postgame, the Gym leaders used a bunch of Kanto Pokemon cause the Pokemon from their region sucked and the entire appeal of the postgame was going to a watered down version of Kanto. Thankfully, HGSS rectifies most of these problems along with a few other problems GS had. It feels like what GS was trying to achieve but y'know....they actually did it this time (except the whole Gym leader thing but we have rematches so I'll somewhat let it slide. Somewhat.) While they do still have a couple of flaws especially with leveling -it's abismol-, HGSS is a very good remake that fixes some problems and adds a few new things too.

[@iancypes5911]

DS pokemon was Peak Pokemon

[@jaretco6423]

Yep. Except Diamond & Pearl. That one sucks. But that is why Platinum is an thing. So yeah.

[@jermainespeid4934]

Morty is a ghost type gym leader but is didn’t have misdreavus

[@javonbatiste5984]

Morty is hands down the worst ghost type expert in the seris...his whole team just consist of duplicates of the same family line.. It was really pointless too have a ghost type gym leader with limited ghost type pokemon available

[@javonbatiste5984]

Never played the remakes yet but I do have the emulators though Gonna get around too playing these when I finish up Black 2

[@dracojoule]

Nice video man, you make pretty fair content and it's clear you put a lot of effort in Also I just realized we go to the same school so that's pretty cool

[@MasterofTheUniverse1337]

I have grown Up with the Original Gen 1 and 2 but today i rather Play the Remakes of These Two because the Remakes are way better for me 👍🏻.

[@startedlizard8678]

Hey dont sleep on jumpluff. It gets leech seed, sleep powder, both aminisia and cotten guard, u-turn, synthisis and more. I used sleep powder, leech seed, bullet seed and synthisis and it kicks ass.

[@smgric6853]

This is my favorite series you’ve ever done. HGSS really may be the best Pokémon has and will ever be

[@Acacius1992]

No. Not in the slightest, there are way better games from pokemon

[@smgric6853]

@@Acacius1992 go on...

[@Acacius1992]

@@smgric6853 Platinum i think is better. The problem for me simply is even Hg/ss improve in things and got some things i wish they would come back (Pokeathlon and Walking pokemon for example) the flaws i disliked in g/s/c still there

[@smgric6853]

@@Acacius1992 Platinum, HG/SS and B2/W2 are probably the most complete games in the series, tho not my favorites

[@sirwolfy9372]

About the restrictions that these games do: Well, yeah.. not access to all Jotho mons is dumb and the evolutions also made it worse, but there is a light... They let you have the mons with their hidden abilities and it's amazing! Having a Scyther with Technician is glorious!

[@theERLANDOshow]

will you make a video like this about gen3 remakes? great work mate!

[@sethh1943]

Is the dratini we get from the dragon’s den in blackthorn a guaranteed shiny?

[@Cosmic-Turtle]

As much as I love Kanto, I feel that they should've left it out of the original Gold, Silver and Crystal, that way they could have expanded more on Johto. However I don't feel this same way with Heart Gold and Soul Silver. They managed to give so much more life to both Johto and Kanto. Kanto in Heart Gold and Soul Silver feel like they were taken straight out of Fire Red and Leaf Green but with better graphics (for the most part. MT Moon now feels like a cave made for babies lol).

[@tigertyrant713]

Here's my opinion Emerald and Platinum the best enhanced versions HeartGold and SoulSilver the best remakes And Black 2 and White 2 the best sequels

[@jaretco6423]

I can agree to that. Except I would take out Emerald as best enhanced version and stick Platinum in there. But that's just me.

[@sxrsi7277]

I wish they would port all the games to the switch. I miss all the games, original and remakes.

[@commonviewer2488]

Going to be awhile before part 4 of this series is out

[@garrylewis1868]

What is his intro song, it goes pretty hard lol

[@CaptainMarvel4Ever]

The first Pokemon opening.

[@BruceBoyde]

Man, I adore HG/SS. I'll admit that they hit the double nostalgia really well, coming out when I was a kid and then young adult, but I would totally buy yet another remake now as a swiftly aging adult

[@tabuukiller13]

Something not mentioned still watching video but on added stuff can get slugma through Primo for upgrade changes

[@ulster-scot935]

12:42 I see what you did there lol.

[@imperialwyvern]

And let's no forget you have Pokemon following you. :)

[@odangoatama98]

these two were my first pokémon games :)

[@alipoo52]

i felt like this fit the idea of a remake. i feel like games like oras and probably bdsp in the future, fall short of holding the essence of the specific game. hgss felt true to its origins, yet a breath of fresh air. i would always play hgss over gsc, something that oras and bdsp couldn't make me do

[@Acacius1992]

I llked Oras more personally but thats probaly I never liked the Jotho games in the First place

[@That1Outlander]

We need a pokemon crystal clear version!

[@AmineSamus]

Safari zone doesn't give you hondour, but you can get misdreavus and murkrow. I still think they shouldve just put them in the region itself instead of the safari zone.

[@spoopbagoot4628]

had hundreds of hours in these games as a kid

[@msu7777]

imagine if they release hg/ss/fr/lg/emerald to the switch or phone with home compatibility

[@garbotoxins840]

Personally I still prefer Crystal over these remakes. While I think hgss look and sound good, I do prefer the aesthetic of the originals. The limitations of the hardware forced them to get creative with their color selection, resulting in things like Gray pokemon like Rhydon having interesting palettes, with a purple replacing the gray, with green shadows. The music too has its own quality. I'm not speaking from nostalgia here, I played soul silver years before I touched the gameboy generations.

[@JohnsonSaUceZach]

That’s fair. I played the remakes first, but over time I’ve grown to love the gen 2 games for what they were in their time

[@PkmnTrainerEmerald]

Cool do you prefer the regular crystal or the virtual console crystal? For me hands down the virtual console crystal because of the content they brought back in after years of missing out on it here in the us such as the Celebi event and the shiny egg event oh and the fact that we can transfer to gen 7 too is a bonus for me! The one thing I will say that I do prefer over the original is the printing option and the connection with the pikachu accessory that came with it

[@garbotoxins840]

@@PkmnTrainerEmerald I haven't played it on 3ds but it's the same game for the most part, and the features not included are ones I've never used.

[@RoseSupreme]

My only gripe would be how that being Gen 4 games, they have that unbearably slow HP drainage speed.

[@HighPricedManiac]

The gen 4 engine is actually just as fast as the gen 1 and 2 engines. They run at 30 fps

[@guacamolegeneral1060]

🤦‍♂️

[@krmiistudios2479]

Next I feel like they should make either Lets Go Marill and some other Pokémon (Please not Pichu or Togepi) or Brian Crystal.

[@soulsilvergamer5225]

I am a huge fan of these games I grew up on them they are the definitive pokemon games

[@NataliaNeeSama]

I got to disagree with one thing: Misdreavus didn't sucked. Misdreavus was (and still is on Gen 2 Meta), a powerful competitive Pokemon. Being the only viable Perish Song trapper, Misdreavus destroyed the Meta because most of the Gen 2 meta was VERY defensive and stall based.

[@SmeargleStuff]

0:26 I accidentally turned on Vietnamese subtitles and why do they say masturbation right here?

[@CHRISrnbWORLD]

Of course all the respect to these 2 games. But oras was absolutely a banger too.

[@shinyirontreads5511]

Neither Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire and Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl have the amount of effort the past remakes have.

[@Acacius1992]

Firered/Leafgreen where amazing in my opinion. Hg/ss just okay

[@msslamajama2]

8:32 while trainers pokemon levels have been raised a bit (though in my opinion, still underleveled, I think there should've at least been some trainers higher leveled than lance outside of the gyms, silver in mt. moon should've definitely had higher levels than lance) wild pokemon really haven't been raised in level in kanto. You're still fighting lvl 10 pokemon in rock tunnel

[@Sakura_Truffle]

Which makes grinding horrible because at best you're fighting against ~lvl 30s-40s on Mt. Silver when you're trying to get to lvl 70s-80 for the Red fight

[@msslamajama2]

@@Sakura_Truffle cerulean cave is also an alternative.