The detail that RUINS Wings of Fire

[@hyzmarie]

However, SeaWings may not need that jawline for catching fish with their other natural advantages in the water, and they might have it to be able to fight other dragons/ survive on land. Also, they might have it to hold on to larger creatures like whales etc, or land animals when on land. Alternately, it may just be vestigial, and something that simply didn’t change as SeaWings migrated to the water, as they survived just fine without it. I think it’s probably this way for holding onto dragon necks.

[@Rainydaysie]

exactly my point as well! evolution happens with natural selection.. and the seawings are a KINGDOM, a COMMUNITY. They share their kills with others of their kind, so the short snouted dragons arent dying off. Therefore, it's literally impossible for natural selection to occur in that way.

[@oliviadavis3638]

Plus SeaWings, as Tsunami realized while swimming to Pantala with Turtle, (epilogue book 12) still need land despite being built for the water. They can't stay in the ocean for their whole lives, they need to come out sometimes. It's like how SandWings live in the desert but still can't take hours and hours of scorching heat with no shelter, as Palm realizes, (prologue book 10) or how IceWings are very cold resistant, but they still have their limits.

[@weirdwillowtree4087]

You can see in the book 2 graphic novel(?) In one scene Riptide bumps into a whale and is about the same size so if that whale was an adult and not a young one then the eating whales part of your comment does make sense

[@hyzmarie]

@@weirdwillowtree4087 yep that was part of why o thought of that

[@mischievousia4582]

@@oliviadavis3638 sea wings need to rest not to leave the water, but you might be onto something about killing land animals. Maybe their diet used to mostly consist of land animals because they could easily overpower a land animal in the water. They can pull bigger animals that might put up someone what of a fight, into the water and overpower them with their natural advantage. It would be better than having to fight something with the same advantages as you.

[@khizeryusufzai2185]

Actually did a biology presentation on different biological features of dragons and real animals. Longest presentation ever with almost 50 slides and took a half hour to present. Got a good 100%

[@JadeMountainArchive]

That's awesome!

[@khizeryusufzai2185]

@@JadeMountainArchive thx. Huge fan btw.

[@khizeryusufzai2185]

@@DeceasedTea thx😄

[@obscurumstar]

Good job, but holy crap you must've presented that fast! That's about 36 seconds per slide which is quite impressive, but I assume that's just an estimate + I'm slow at presenting. I commend you for you service though, incredible 👏

[@khizeryusufzai2185]

@@obscurumstar some slides were just images and videos but yeah it was pretty long still. Thx

[@gut853]

Congratulations JMA, you're officially the only person who has managed to act like a bigger nerd than me😂

[@lillyalderson9168]

XD

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Hahaha, excellent.

[@timmy6890]

Well maybe we might get Spinosaurus SeaWing Art Now

[@XD.73-849]

*MatPat has left the chat*

[@timmy6890]

@@XD.73-849 lol

[@elainasynranelt]

As a fantasy writer myself I thank you for bringing this detail to my attention. Such a harrowing crime against humanity cannot be overlooked.

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Indeed 😔

[@Sawgrass-TML]

@@JadeMountainArchiveIndeed indeed 😔

[@r0m_gr948]

@@Sawgrass-TML Indeed indeed indeed 😔😔

[@raddragongaming9030]

@@r0m_gr948 Indeed indeed indeed indeed 😔😔😔

[@tired_silly_dancer]

@@raddragongaming9030 Indeed indeed indeed indeed indeed 😔😔😔😔

[@Hydra-s_GambitYoutube]

okok but hear me out, (spoilers for arc3 ahead) i think the reasons why leafwings & silkwings have those pointed snouts are because they do need to use them. according to half of arc 3 and the prolouge of chapter 11, they lived in vast forests which are crowded as HECK with all the vines, roots, carnivorous plants (you heard me, Swordtail), so obviously the animals have evolved to get around these with compound (and frankly, complex) eyes, lightning quick reactions and small, slim bodies, like fish! (minus the eyeball part). So the dragons, in turn, have to evolve as well. And any evolution could happen in 2000 years, amirite nightwings. So their nimble snouts were most likely used for snatching prey out of almost any pocket they could hide in the jungle. And although the Tree Wars happened and the breath of evil sucks, 50 years isn't enough time for a whole species to change based on new society; nonetheless two species. So there you have it, my argument for why Pantala is justified with their dragon anatomy. (JMA, you do have a point though. i knew tsunami's design was weird and had to double check the in-book guide. like, why she built like that? what happened to the horns and why is it so s l i m ? like that straight up looks like rainwing slim...ness. slim-ness, sure) Great video too, love to see more content coming! probably should add too if im going to write an entire essay on youtube.

[@stardewofpyrrhia4381]

It does look different with her head at an angle like that

[@TrickyTalon23]

0:10 my gosh the super fast pacing of the monologue and the zoom-out edits match up *perfectly*

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Hahaha, I'm glad you liked it! That was one of my favorite edits to put together.

[@timmy6890]

Yes I don’t remember the last time I saw those type of edits but that was nice to see

[@abandoned_account_6712]

I SEE YOU EVERYWHERE TRICKYTALON AFEGSHYGFHEYUDHVUIJFENHJDK

[@TrickyTalon23]

@@abandoned_account_6712 good for you

[@timmy6890]

@@abandoned_account_6712 They are coming for you

[@raptorhunter156]

Since dragons have a combat based civilization the snout shape could be designed for combative purposes not hunting.

[@windjager2177]

Yeah and i think with sll their water adaptations, it isn't thst importsnt for their snout to chsnge either

[@raptorhunter156]

@@windjager2177 I agree and another thing is that joy ang was the one to do drawings and designs but correctly me if I'm wrong

[@great-wyrmII]

That's what i thought

[@anubisdragon8119]

Good point. Although on the other claw, Orcas do pretty well as ocean predators with a rounded muzzle.

[@JadeMountainArchive]

True! And sharks too! I figure the meme video was still worth it though hahaha

[@mischievousia4582]

@@JadeMountainArchive aren’t orcas like the number one hunters of the sea? Also, their snout could be used for killing land animals since they’re easier to overpower in the water and we know that dragons are smart and would choose the easier to overpower option. which would make them evolve over time to kill land animals.

[@legend_above]

They have a teeth formation that prevent a different type of fish as they use cold, freezing water to hunt sharks 🦈, dolphins 🐬, and other fish 🐟.

[@legend_above]

They also use there rounded snout to knock seals 🦭 off ice sheets and other animals Orcas are a very interesting predator go watch David Attenborough he is a better source than me

[@tootbender6935]

Yeah but their teeth look nothing like a lion's.

[@acesquid6944]

JMA I’ve had a theory/headcanon for a while that might just solve this anatomical crime. So my theory is that a long time ago (likely pre-scorching) some force drove NightWing ancestors out of their territory and into the sea. Then, after thousands of years, they evolved to better suit their underwater lifestyle, but they still kept some semblance of their original appearance. For example, they both have stocky builds, plantigrade feet, and the aforementioned short snouts. Even the SeaWing spines look like webbed NightWing ones, and they have similar scale patterns on their necks. TLDR: SeaWings and NightWings are evolved from the same species, and that is why they have short snouts Also I love your content JMA :)

[@Void_TheDemon]

Oooo that's a pretty cool theory!

[@foxfangs4236]

Wait that actually makes so much sense!

[@mothtree7730]

I thought seawings were related to icewings because the books said tsunami had blue blood and seawings live in the ocean so would also be adapted colder climates just not to the extent of icewings

[@windjager2177]

@@mothtree7730 tbh i dont know if that thing is canon cuz seawings also have been explained to have red blood, and cosntantly are portrayed with red blood in the comics. Also also, perhaps it is just royalty cuz their animi csm from Icewings (as far as im aware ALL animus bloodline slive today come from icewings, think dark-stalker a.e.)

[@digitaldritten]

@@mothtree7730 really thought this video would be about the blood color inconsistency. if Tsunami had blue blood, the inside of her mouth would not be red!

[@ClementineRiverbank]

Never knew that but definitely a valid point. The only thing I'm curious about is are fish enlarged in Phyrria (sorry if I spelled that wrong) and Pantala like fruit is? Because in book 2 Riptide runs into a whale and with the wording it sounds like the whale might be around the size of the dragon which means its size wouldn't have changed much. If dragons are so large they wouldnt need as large mouths if they mainly ate smaller fish, but if they ate sharks and larger aquatic animals it would make sense for them to have longer faces.

[@lacytheespeon517]

I don't think animals are enlarged because eating whole cows is commonly talked about

[@Epic_747]

i think it depends on the metric, dragonets are able to be carried by people whereas morrowseer towered over other dragons and darkstalker could hold hold teens and young adults in a hand

[@windjager2177]

@@Epic_747 maybe drsgonets sre harched very small and rspidly gsin weight and size like many snimals in the snimal kingdom and their growing quickens wuickly. I think it has been confirmed by tui thst ALL tribes sre the same size

[@Epic_747]

@@windjager2177 that's completely correct, dragons are teens at age 4, and adults at 7 afterwhich they mature slowly, this is also why people get divided on tui's fuck up of deathbringers age with his winglet book.

[@soggybread9513]

JMA: "I care more about the character's developement and personalities rather than how they look" Also JMA: * *this video* * Also YES TO THE JMA HEADS THAT WAS PERFECT I knew they were going to come in handy (other than being emojis). Including them made my day

[@laka7007]

wdym the emojis?

[@gamer_fish]

@@laka7007 The JMA emojis at the end of the video that Soggy Bread made

[@soggybread9513]

@@laka7007 the discord emojis

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Hahaha, I figured you might enjoy that part. Setting them bobbing to the music gave me happinness so I was excited to put it in a video.

[@soggybread9513]

@@JadeMountainArchive It's so incredibly adorable seeing them right after your outrage. I've rewatched this video roughly 20 times and it'll never get old haha

[@transnewt]

actually, a lot of aquatic predators do (did) have robust jaws. discounting the shellfish specialists, many large sharks and nearly all of the aquatic carnivora have very powerful bites. orca are a major exception here, being just about the only macropredator that doesnt have robust jaws, which is likely due to its ancestors being fish specialists having only recently transitioned to marine mammals, similar to humans only recently transitioning from the trees to the ground. of course, other modern cetaceans lack robust jaws as well, and all are specialised to much smaller, often piscine or mollusc prey, meaning orca are your best modern base for a large hunting mammal. take a few steps back in time, however, and you will see that damn near all of the cetacean predators had robust jaws. from the extrmely primitive dorudon and basilosaurus to the more modern acrophyseter and livyatan or the much stranger coronodon, which was technically a balleen whale

[@JadeMountainArchive]

I love reading comments like this :D It's so much fun to learn new things like what a robust jaw is! And you raise good points hahaha - I couldn't figure out how to incorporate shark/orca jaws into the video so I just went with the meme :P

[@Void_TheDemon]

O.O- GIMME YOUR FISH KNOWLEDGE

[@transnewt]

@@Void_TheDemon too lazy to type all that

[@hecxhockgames4114]

True although to be fair, they seem to be going the “orca” route rather than the “crocodilian” route. Chunky snouts instead of long skinny ones XD

[@undercovercorvyd]

do remember that tsunami was raised on cows and pigs and goats and such, not necessarily fish, so her snout structure could be different compared to other seawings due to the prey she was raise on and her method of hunting, which likely WOULD be more like a lions. but more likely so that it was just a design error.

[@bunnylover7145]

You're so close to 20k! It's amazing to see how much your channel has grown C:

[@Qwiwx_]

Hi bunnylover!!!!

[@bunnylover7145]

@@Qwiwx_ ah hello its nice to see u here qwiwx :>

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Thank youuuu :)

[@Syriepha]

There are a lot of factors in this to think about. Their main adversaries are dragons, which might contribute more so to their structure than their diet considering the fact that dragons are highly intelligent, which means that they can make things like fish traps: baskets, nets, even fishing rods, and they probably do

[@randomperson-kx6mv]

I've also heard that the wing anatomy for the dragons in WoF is off. Apparently, in order to properly function, the wings should attach to the spinal column... not the shoulder. I'm no anatomy expert, so I'm not sure how much truth there is to this, the wing placement looks kind of wonky to me either way 😅

[@Non-PlayerCharacter]

I mean they have really strong powerful tails that- similar to how thresher sharks stun their prey- could take advantage on how sea creatures are susceptible to getting stunned and use said tails to whack the living daylights out of their prey. Then they wouldn't need the longer jaw structure. Props on the Spinosaurus stock video btw

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Right?? I saw that and was like, "Yes, this is perfect." Interesting point about the tail stunning!

[@budgiebirdgasp]

honestly this is so true, as I always felt like something was off with the Seawings when I started reading WoF.

[@jonaszrybarczyk2227]

Buuuut such snouts won’t be able to easily eat sharks. Which Seawings love to eat Plus every dragon race has similar ancestry that goes like 5000 years back. This isn’t long enough for such snouts to form And again weren’t there marine dinosaurs with similar snouts?

[@JadeMountainArchive]

You raise good points!

[@jonaszrybarczyk2227]

@@JadeMountainArchive well you did too, plus I think I should add that the seawing hunting strategy is similar to that of a shark. They swim close to the target as fast as they can, and either grab them with their claws or bite them. And considering they often hunt to eat later they most likely grab their prey, to not accidentally bite it in half. The queen would be furious if a hunter bit the tail off before it was brought to the cooks, wouldn’t she? … Well that was a load. I understand you, even I had rage moments on similar details. But in the same time the snouts of seawings never bothered me that much. Maybe because it seemed to me quite… understandable, and sensible.

[@hola-hx8ri]

what about animals like sharks, whales, dolphins, and porpoises? they eat animals like fish and have pretty bulky jaws. i think seawings have bulky jaws so they can tear into larger prey. while they eat fish, it's also been mentioned that they eat animals like whales and snails... i don't imagine super sleek jaws being very effective for eating those types of foods. seawings with longer jaws would still look kind of cool, though. have to admit lol

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Hahaha, true! I couldn't figure out how to incorporate those into the video, so I just went with the meme :P

[@hola-hx8ri]

@@JadeMountainArchive makes sense; i got shitpost-y vibes from this video lol

[@cmlsquad1506]

I love how you add humor into your videos. It really makes it a lot more interesting and not just some boring things that you noticed while reading the series. :)

[@timmy6890]

Tsunami looking like a Spinosaurus would actually make her more intimidating tbh Tsunami Spinosaurus art *NOW*

[@dipper8661]

Wings of fire is a great fictional series that teaches kids serious topics that need to be addressed as well as a great read for adults and anyone. It is a greatly written and detailed story that uses its characters, world building, themes, etc. to create an amazing series that will be remembered by readers. 6/10 not enough wings were on fire.

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Hahahahaha

[@bluerock9358]

What?!?! How did I not notice this before? Thank you JMA for opening my eyes to this fishy detail.

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Fishy detail hahahaha

[@bluerock9358]

@@JadeMountainArchive Glad that you found that amusing. XD

[@zeo5968]

holy frick that tiny face at 1:22 is too cute

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Right??? I loved it so much I knew I needed to put into a video.

[@ChanellingMyInnerSparkle]

This made me laugh so hard for no particular reason at all, congrats JMA for making me watch this 10 times

[@soggybread9513]

rookie numbers/hj love your username haha

[@ChanellingMyInnerSparkle]

@@soggybread9513 thank you!!

[@Radman.28]

I hear you man how could they mess up on this one detail oh well, but well done pointing that out 👍

[@JadeMountainArchive]

There truly is no coming back from it

[@Radman.28]

Making that leap. I’m glad for you.

[@prestonlogan3808]

Wasn't that the shape of the jaw looked like in the Nightwing guide to dragons? Also seawings are not fully aquatic, they can live on land. Due to that they need a specialized jaw to eat a variety of prey, should they ever be on land for a stretch of time. It also could be the case that an Animus made their snouts different, possibly to fit in, or to eat a variety of food.

[@TrickyTalon23]

Grab the pitchforks and torches! We’re storming Wings Of Fire Corp. for ruining everything!

[@MyNameIs_Chris]

Oh god now you're going to tell us that Seawings should be filter feeders

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Nahhhhhh, they are the top of the food chain, the apex predators, the masters of the sea!

[@psychicfoxvt]

oh my gosh, I remember this channel when you were at a 5TH of the subscribers you're at now. Honestly, I've been a big fan of the series ever since I got the first few books for Christmas, and I have been reading it ever since. The fact that there's a 20k sub channel totally dedicated to my favorite series of all time is really awesome. Awesome video!

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Hahaha, I'm glad you enjoy the content!

[@qibliis1]

You’re right, it is so very very frustrating that they just couldn’t get the face right. Of course all we can do is keep on reading and hope they realize it eventually.

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Truly.

[@thywiz]

god I can feel the primal rage emanating just from the last scream LOL

[@gregebsworth7914]

I find it anoying how the other dods didn’t notice sunny was part nightwing. Let me explain. So they were living with her for 6 years, they had another sand wing and a nightwing to compare her to and they didn’t realise the Star scales going down her sides!? They also didn’t notice the shape of her snout, the scales on her snout (or scales in general), colour of her eyes, nightwing spines on her tail or the black tip of her tail. To add to anoying things in WOF starfloght is completely missing the star scales on his side! SUNNY IS MORE NIGHTWING THAN STARFLIGHT!

[@ae0lus217]

I’m late to the party again 😭. But that seen where you slowly zoom out with the books and your KZbin channel is golden.

[@ChickenScratch-Feathers]

At first I was like what!? When I heard you say SeaWing snouts, but no you actually bring up a good point! Ive never thought about that before, but it does make sense! Now I got to draw a SeaWing with a long snout and call him Gar.

[@JadeMountainArchive]

That's a great name for a Seawing!

[@UnholyMinty]

Just hearing the name makes me want to protect Gar at all costs

[@ChickenScratch-Feathers]

@@UnholyMinty lol yes we must protect Gar. 🐟

[@EshwenAudanal]

I know this isn’t being serious, but… 1. Dunkleosteus ate sharks with a much blunter snout than that. 2. These dragons could not have evolved from reptiles. Reptiles are Tetrapods. Dragons in wings of fire have 6 limbs. You can’t just evolve an extra functioning arm as a vertebrate tetrapod. It would need a good place or way to attach, and there are only two forms available: the pelvic girdle and the pectoral girdle. Both require being at the end of a rib cage, not in the middle. They would have to alter the arm joints in a way that would make using the arm very difficult for many many MANY generations. To make a hexapod dragon, you would need to go back to the many-segmented creature vertebrates evolved from, and select for an extra set of limbs, then re-evolve it from there through reptiles, to dragons. This is why every flying vertebrate has wings made of the arms. But fortunately there’s magic in this world, so many impossible or nearly impossible things can happen.

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Hahaha trueeeeeee

[@nessi4630]

OH MY DEAR LORD! YOURE RIGHT

[@digitaldritten]

based on the thumbnail, i really thought that this video would be about the seawing blood color inconsistency. if Tsunami had blue blood, the inside of her mouth would not be red!

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Mmmmm, interesting idea and fun point!

[@e.wincentsen4017]

Huh, never thought of that. The detail that got me in book 2 was the mention of Whirlpool wearing rings, since SeaWings have webbed talons. So that got me thinking, do SeaWings have clip on rings that they can insert around their claws by piercing a slit in each side of the webbing?

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Truuuuuuueee, that's such a good point. Maybe they have sticky rings that just cling to their fingers.

[@LowBrandon]

JMA screeching is similar to me screeching and almost internally exploding every time I see HMS Hood blowing up😂😂

[@Fritzafella]

This is making me laugh so hard, this little mini rant was glorious! And yeah, that is actually really bizzarre of a detail for Tui to miss... Though I actually looked at the wiki, and I think the cover artist just took some liberties xD. From Wiki "They have curved horns, a slender, curved snout, and two barbels on the underside of their jaw" Slender, curved snout. WHO MESSED UP THE COVER ART?! (jk Phil Falco, the cover art is glorious, and Book 2s, and 9s are among my favs for the water.)

[@savagegaming4333]

Your so close to 20k I’m so excited for you! 🥳🎉

[@lemonmeowy]

Yes!

[@oopstags6784]

JMA getting heated over a snout shape is genuinely hilarious, made my day

[@Inkling_dbd]

bruh

[@D-a-n-c-i-n-g_R-a-c-c-o-o-n]

I’m glad someone brought this up, because when I saw the seawing design as I was reading the series, this really threw me off as well.

[@charlatan1438]

Let's go!

[@Ranger51101]

So close to 20k JMA I bet this video gets u there

[@Home_of_Heartes]

Early twice in one day!

[@уж_не_гадюка]

00:33 seals, sea otters, sea snakes and ect. : we are joke to you?

[@Stefi_C]

JMA: 'complains' about a little detail that no one talks about in the WoF fandom. Meanwhile Warriors fans, complaining about every new official cover art for the books (excluding James L. Barry):

[@ThatGoofyGamer_101]

Seawings eat Coconuts and Pineapples. They probably use that strong snout to bust open the rock-hard coconut shell and tear off the outer-parts of a pineapple.

[@VivaLahope]

Oh no now that I’ve noticed this ……oh god it hurts I’m a sucker for continuity *causally breaking down* (oh btw great video JMA😅)

[@sunshinerose0654]

Total agree with you, but tsumani didn't grow up eating raw fish, i think she grew up in eating the other tribies of food.

[@officialCloud_Playz]

Okay I love that intro 😂❤️

[@Fortnite-Crew_62]

I didn't even notice this the first time, thank you Jma for bringing attention to detail on this.

[@parkerrichardson1127]

Her jaw probably adopted to her diet from the time in the mountain in book 1

[@DogIsCat-Kitten]

I don’t know how to explain the Pantalla dragon snouts, but Maby sea wings have their noses like that for fighting or hunting on land which they sometimes do. Especially Tsunami

[@Dog-with-Insomnia]

Id like to think that the reason they have those kinda snouts is because they are simply faster than most of the things they hunt, and plus, they can always use spears. There is no use in a long snout to catch fish if you can just hurdle a spear at them.

[@richie4247]

the human embodyment of starflight

[@magicdolphinplays4916]

Although long snouts aren’t on all sea predators, like sharks and orcas, I love this video and it just made me laugh 😂😂! I love you jma! Keep up the good work, every video I watch makes me smile! P.S Also I saw you pinned and commented on another one of my comments on a different video and it just made my day! Thank you so much! #1 fan! ❤

[@JadeMountainArchive]

[@magicdolphinplays4916]

It was very funny lol you succeeded at that!

[@totallyblue_]

MAN I CANT BELIEVE YOU HAVE OVER 20K!! I REMEMBER WHEN YOU HAD LESS THEN 5K :DDD anyway I’m so sad because your videos keep evading my recommended!! Hope you still remember me lol. WHY DO I KEEP MISSING YOUR POSTS!?-!

[@n0_hesitation217]

YAAAAY 20k subs congratulations JMA!!!!

[@JadeMountainArchive]

WOOOOOO!

[@Why_am_1_here]

To be fair you could argue that becuase seawings have weapons they don't really need elongated snouts plus they are huge compared to fish therefore and a lot faster therefore do not need as much range im their jaws

[@abandoned_account_6712]

At first I thought this would be a really insightful serious video discussing an issue with wof but this is so much better-

[@Void_TheDemon]

Same- also I agree xD

[@Olivertheolive]

We don’t need a borzoi dragon

[@jonunya6552]

this is actually really interesting, i was thinking of drawing redesigns 4 the tribes & will definitely add that detail 2 the seawings

[@FoxTroaht]

T''T this was so funny! And the voice you used, I can't stop laughing. :D

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Hahaha, I'm glad. I was a little worried I'd offend someone with it :P

[@Robloxfan1234eg]

Fun fact: *deathbringer have a crush on glory*

[@Dogloverlikesdoge]

A detail I can now never unsee... 😔

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Oops!

[@Goober547]

1:09 it looks fantastic on dinosaurs ( like spinosaurus) so I’m sure it wouldn’t look bad on a dragon that is meant to be underwater catching fish 😭

[@TeddyTube1234]

Think about it: Tsunami grew up in the caves. She would have eaten stuff other than fish and therefore would have developed a different snout.

[@Destiny-finders-cave]

JMA, I want to tell you something, Its not a big deal Tbh plenty of dragons who live in water have short snouts, and aquatic creatures in real life have small snouts and primarily eat fish like axolotls

[@JadeMountainArchive]

true hahaha, I just wanted to make these jokes :P

[@FireFox_60]

He’s spent 2 months just thinking about this

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Truly hahaha

[@Rydrake6]

How dare Tui T. Sutherland make an anatomically incorrect tribe

[@Goose-On-the-Loose]

Tbh I don’t think they would ,they usually hunt in packs and catch pray about the same size as them like orcas do, orcas and many sharks have short faces but eh- idk 🤷‍♀

[@anightwingcloakedinshadow5448]

Wow why didn't I think of this. Personally, elongated snouts would look really cool on Seawings. Like imagine what looks to be 2 prehistoric sea creatures rapidly swimming towards you, communicating with flashes of life, and then being able to reach you from farther away o.0 (RIP fish)

[@JadeMountainArchive]

That would be so coooooooooooooooooooool!

[@Makaylabug1010]

Also a sad fact of the Darkness of dragon cover Qibli is missing his SNOUT SCAR!?!?

[@promienodrzutowysamuel790]

My theory is that all tribes evolved from a single tribe, which is why they have some fetures that don't make sense just like the tailbone in our skeleton. it's also possible there's been a lot of cross breeding between the tribes, which gave them the similar characteristics.

[@CoolCowConlangs]

The small nerdy detail that got on my nerves was how after thousands of years of isolation of the "Dragon" language, after it was bought to Pyrrhia, it didn't change. The Pyrrhian and Pantalan languages would've evolved in that time and become mutually unintelligible.

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Agreeeeeeed! I always wondered about this hahaha

[@thunderpants3500]

Had a friend in high school who used to do this to me, he'd question everything I came up with for my world until I stopped sharing my ideas with him. Years later I get it. Especially the geology aspect. When I started I was never in one place and jumped all over leaving near realistic details out.

[@Adhd_Coffee_Queen657]

i'm shocked i didn't notice this when i read book two.. thank you Jma for pointing that out:) i love your videos!

[@timmy6890]

Tsunami Spinosaurus Art Now Tsunami Spinosaurus Art Now Tsunami Spinosaurus Art Now

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Yes please. This.

[@timmy6890]

@@JadeMountainArchive NOW

[@jaeavalanche]

I have another detail from book 2 characters with webbed talons can wear rings!?

[@Silvercrowarts]

Oh, Hah! I thought you were going to talk about that scene where Riptide was trying to grab Tsunami after he thought she said she liked him. pages 32-34 of "The Lost Heir". I might be wrong about what I think... Please correct me as to what was really going on if I am.

[@perorbem]

This is... this is unforgivable! I can't believe I never noticed! And to think, I actually kept reading after that book? I should be ashamed of myself... I'll have to change my profile picture now!

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Hahahaha, incredible.

[@KellenShevokas]

If its aquatic it defiantly needs a aquatic snout. I totally agree JMA and thank you for bringing that detail to me. :)

[@Middlemouse]

I have one word for this: Seals. They are aquatic predators that mainly eat fish yet have the same looking jaws as a lion. Case closed. There is no error. Muahahaha!

[@JadeMountainArchive]

Good point!

[@YamiSpyroX]

Y'know considering the lack of 'memes' showing up in YT Shorts, I actually thought Wings of Fire get 'Cancelled Cultured'. Good to see this still living! No. I don't care if Dragons aren't biologically realistic. They're meant to be fantastical. That's the whole point of them!

[@pyronuke4768]

Tbh the covers have been a little inconsistent with the book's descriptions sometimes. Just look at the cover of Darkness Of Dragons: Qibli has a traditional slim dragon snout instead of the usual blunt Sandwing one, his earring is in the wrong ear, and he doesn't even have his signature scar!

[@Parakeet_Robotics]

Not going to lie Jma kinda right

[@Devonella]

And you wonder why I have a hard time figuring out my artstyle for these damn dragons! XD

[@darkness_c4]

Another is in book four The Dark Secret if you read the description of Nightwings it says they have black tongues but on the cover art Starflight's tongue is red idk about the graphic novel since I only read the novels so Starflight's tongue might be black in graphic novel but not in original novel

[@Simon_The_Chipmunk]

I agree with you. I study zoology in my free time and this is true. Even early aquatic animals had this feature (plesiosaur) Heck even bipedal creatures (Spinosaurus)

[@JadeMountainArchive]

One thing I and some other commenters have been wondering is how to think about the shape of shark snouts in relation to this. I'd love to hear the perspective of someone who's into zoology on this!

[@Simon_The_Chipmunk]

They don't eat as much fish as you'd expect. Their diet consists of mostly seal/larger fish (compared to their body size), so they would mostly use their mouths instead of catching fish at a distance charge and ram into them stunning them and enabling the shark to use it's teeth to rip and tear their prey apart.

[@josemariaruiz1879]

Tsunami, Seawing Darkstalker and moon “and maybe you”, Nightwings

[@ascent9374]

Honestly the sea wings have always bothered me. The fact they have wings at all is a little ridiculous, in fiction we'd typically see water based dragons as wingless or surpents having attention around long fins etc

[@spirirsstuff]

I've also noticed another thing that this cover has that should be a bit different! If the dragon on the cover is really Tsunami, then where are the spirals on her wings? Turtle has them on his cover, but Tsunami does not!

[@tinam2129]

HE DIDNT EVEN MENTION THE SCRAGGLY BITS! LIKE THE LITTLE THINGYS COMING FROM THEIR CHINS! WHYYYY! Edit: Me checking if anyone liked or replied to my comment Thinks that nothing happened Me seeing that jma did the lil thingy that shows his icon with the heart at the bottom Freaks out Aaaaahhhhhh