The difference between sun and shade grown Musa basjoo banana plants

[@palmplanet]

Great video, thanks for sharing, I never noticed what a big difference sun vs. shade can make for Musa basjoo. They look amazing!

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Thank you! Yes, the difference is quite dramatic!

[@rachaelk8358]

Beautiful plants! I look forward to planting some next spring.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Thank you so much! My average winter lowest temperature is about +2°F.

[@BornFreeFilms]

Nice information. I am planting 2 as soon as they come in the mail. I am in zone 8a near Dallas. It is Nov. 7, 2023. Subbed, liked, black belled. I have mostly animals on my channel.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Nice, you will love them! And thanks, I appreciate that! Take care!

[@denisestarr2314]

I bought a Musa this spring . I hope mine does good . Excited

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Yes! Enjoy!

[@SlipMahoneyBowery]

How did it do? Just curious.

[@SlipMahoneyBowery]

Exactly what I was looking for. I have to move mine in the spring. Thanks

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Awesome! Good luck!

[@Tropicalgarden82]

Greetings to meet us tropical plant lovers from Indonesia

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Nice to meet you and glad to have you!

[@dobnerk]

Thanks for the video! It would be helpful to know what zone you're in. I love your plants.

[@subtropicalohioplants267]

It's interesting to see your banana plants near the end of October, especially as the first winter frost approaches. The lower leaves appear more cold (chilling) stressed, while the upper ones look mostly still lush and green.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

That all changed this morning as it hit 32.3° as a low and had about two hours of 32° in total. That’s all it took to cook them. What’s sad is that we don’t have any more frost predicted for at least two weeks. Irritating but life dealing with plants haha.

[@ladyjrider666]

I love my musa basjoo grove. I'm in SW Wales where they love the rain. It's interesting to see your comparison.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@ladyjrider666 Absolutely! They probably stay up year round for you being in that area? It’s always frustrated me that you all are so much more north than me but you have warmer winter temperatures lol! Good for you though!

[@ladyjrider666]

@justhereforthefoliage parts of Wales are colder, but on the sw coast I'm lucky. I wrap some fleece but allow them to remain around 7 foot. I am going to divide a few next spring as have 2 pups taller than me and the neighbour side I trim off to stop them moaning.. 🫣 Mature hardy tropicals really have solved privacy and shade limitations.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@ladyjrider666 That's so neat! Good for you! Does it ever freeze there, and what are your hottest summer temps?

[@ladyjrider666]

@justhereforthefoliage we've hit 40 in the summer, but that's a few degrees higher. We don't have as many frosts as we used to. And being coastal don't have much snow. We did have a spell of -10 a few years ago. About 40 miles north or south east (valleys) get snow. Some higher ground and mountains. North England, Ireland and Scotland of course have it worse. Nothing like other countries though. The wet is really an issue for us. This year has been really hard. What's your weather like?

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@ladyjrider666 Wow! 104F in Wales?! I had no idea it ever got that hot on an island like that. I figured the same moderating winds off the water that kept it warmer in winter also kept it cooler in summer. That's wild. Are you concerned with the idea that the Gulf Stream will be coming to end and thereby making your area much colder (as it would have otherwise been at that northern latitude)? We're hot and humid (high dew points) in summer and frigid and dry (low dew points) in winter with equal year round precipitation. Average 22 inches of snow, though that's becoming less and less common. Last year we had 7 inches of snow. We get all four legit seasons and there's something for everyone based on what temp they like lol.

[@Tony.795]

It's nice that they stay smaller in shaded areas without getting leggy. Convenient if you don't want massive banana plants.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

This is very true! That’s what we call a multi useful plant!

[@PerennialGrowth]

Congrats on 500 subs

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Thank you so much! I appreciate you joining and also being #500 and for letting me know!

[@maryreynolds8568]

How can bananas survive in that very cold climate? I'm amazed.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

This species is from way up in the mountains in China, so they are acclimated to cold temps. Mine struggled to come back this year but eventually did.

[@maryreynolds8568]

@@justhereforthefoliage I'm going to put Musa Basjoo on my list of future additions.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@maryreynolds8568 Yes, absolutely!

[@daniellapain1576]

Zone 6, Dwarf Cavendish Bananas. Tarp and pegs evenly on four corners up to just below the leaves and stuff it with straw. Preferably a straw that isn’t prone to mold or you just chop and drop and cover them with an entire hay bales worth broken up and placed in a chicken wire fence surround over it and cover with a frost blanket in both methods. It’s once a year so it’s not hard to do. Remove after any chance of frost or if it stays around 10 degrees or more.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@daniellapain1576 Great insight! Thank you!

[@JustMakinDoFarms]

I have a few not sure what kind they are but mine look like the ones you have. I just transplanted them. Thanks for the video.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@JustMakinDoFarms Great, for transplanting in the height of the summer, be sure to water them like crazy to get started. I don’t even water mine anymore at this point even during prolonged dry spells and they still do great. Thanks!

[@Tropicalgarden82]

👍👍👍

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Thank you!

[@northeasthardytropicals541]

What a difference. I have 4 Musa Basjoo and the one that gets the most sun is triple the size of the others.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Sun lovers! I don’t blame them haha!

[@lisa__rcs]

I’m in growing zone 8b and just got one of these. It’s currently in a pot on my patio. I haven’t had it long enough to figure out what it likes but I’m keeping it watered and I’m having an issue with it bouncy back and forth from healthy to then dropping leaves. Any tips? We get direct sun in late afternoon through evening.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Hi Lisa, thanks for checking in! While they do best in full sun (at least here in the Midwest), they also sag and droop in the afternoon on sunny and hot days. It’s perfectly common for them to fold down almost like they are frowning and abused in the heat of the day. Once the heat relents and the sun dims, they perk back up and look more full and healthy again. As for being in a pot, that makes things a little tricker, as they do love water even more so in pots. I’ve only ever had two experiences with them in pots and one time it was horrible and like yours I kept on thinking it was dying, but the other time it did great. My recommendation is, if you can, give it morning sun and afternoon shade, and keep it watered, and maybe a little fertilizer, and see if that doesn’t do the trick!

[@lisa__rcs]

@@justhereforthefoliage thank you so much!!

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@lisa__rcs My pleasure! Take care!

[@gardenoftwitty]

I have found this to be true as well. My shaded Musa Basjoo always outgrows the Basjoos in the most sunny spots. Peace N Love

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@gardenoftwitty Thank you for watching and commenting! Take care!

[@cincytropics]

Those bananas in the sun are looking good!

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Thanks! I was really pleased with how they turned out in this first year for them. From about two feet to fifteen feet in five months!

[@njw1383]

Been growing Musa basjoo for many years but I have never managed to grow them tall like yours. Mine grow to about 4 or 5 feet max. I dont know why. They get about 6 hours full sun.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@njw1383 Wow! That’s really interesting. Mine only get about four hours of sun. What town are you in?

[@njw1383]

I live in Yorkshire in the UK. I have tried in the past, moving them to different locations and tried with different soil types. They get watered regularly in the summer. I often wonder if they were mis labelled when I bought them. I wonder whether they might actually be something like a dwarf Cavendish, but I'm not sure how to check. They survive the winter here ok so they are definitely a hardy variety. I have just bought a new Musa Basjoo today from a trustworthy source so it will be interesting to compare the growth next year. I've planted the new one in a large container. The old ones are currently planted in the ground. They died back to the ground last winter and are currently only about 2.5 feet tall.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@njw1383 Oh okay, interesting! You could absolutely be right in the mis labeling! I also think you may struggle with lack of heat and high dew points in the summer. I think UK is pretty far north, so that might be a part of it as well! Let me know how your new one does for you and if it’s any different than the others!

[@njw1383]

@@justhereforthefoliage what sort of temperature is best? It's been about 25c this week which is about 77f

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@njw1383 They like hot summers so over 85°F with high dew points over like 73°F.

[@geoffryallan7261]

No bananas though? I guess it’s hard there the growing season is too short

[@justhereforthefoliage]

Nope, no bananas. Growing season is usually around mid April until late October here. Less than 200 days.

[@tuyetvo4353]

Banana trees like full sun - water.

[@justhereforthefoliage]

They turn down and become droopy and sad looking during the heat of the day in full sun though. Just something to keep in mind.

[@tuyetvo4353]

@@justhereforthefoliage / my bananas trees in back yard is going well in full sun - . blooms 2nd flowers. ❤️bananas trees . ❤️papayas trees

[@justhereforthefoliage]

@@tuyetvo4353 Awesome!

[@tuyetvo4353]

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