The difference between washes & contrast type paints. Your questions answered.

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Duncan Rhodes Painting Academy

Duncan Rhodes Painting Academy

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@vbenthusiast
@vbenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
This is the kinda stuff we need. I feel like a lot of these types of topics aren’t covered a lot or talked about in the painting community. It’s usually just “hey let’s paint this model”. Same goes for varnishes and how to properly apply / which brands to use. I feel like varnishing is such an important step and a lot of products frost your miniature. I want to know how GW always gets that smooth finish with the metals intact.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! We will be doing a tutorial on Varnishes soon
@vbenthusiast
@vbenthusiast 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Awesome, and thank you!
@MasterShake9000
@MasterShake9000 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always heard that GW doesn’t varnish the studio models, and that part of the eavy metal team’s job is touching up studio armies after battle reports and other uses.
@Witchlord
@Witchlord 2 жыл бұрын
This is surprising to me, as ive seen plenty of videos explaining the difference. Dont get me wrong, i agree it was a good video, just not anything new.
@treydudley7966
@treydudley7966 2 жыл бұрын
Seconding this comment
@KamekazeKuban
@KamekazeKuban 2 жыл бұрын
The fact you used your own line AND kept it objective has me blown away. Definitely good to see that you think each type and brand of paint has own use that’s best for certain jobs.
@K2HunterX
@K2HunterX 2 жыл бұрын
This is how they get you, they start objective and slowly but surely, Duncan's board of directors slowly take advantage of that trust.
@mikegrant8031
@mikegrant8031 2 жыл бұрын
I will be glad when our two thin coats rack comes in.
@TheRedBrethren
@TheRedBrethren 4 ай бұрын
@@K2HunterX the fact these paints are so expensive even after over 2 million in kickstarter money says they did from the beginning
@kmykz
@kmykz 2 жыл бұрын
Almost 18 minutes of straight to the point info + examples. Thank you!
@Jokreher
@Jokreher 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always found that concept and technique videos are more valuable to the hobby than step-by-step/color-by-color videos. I can use techniques and concepts with whatever colors I have on hand instead of following someone else’s interpretations.
@JoeBoster
@JoeBoster 2 жыл бұрын
Surely but takes a lot longer to make.
@KabinMiniatures
@KabinMiniatures 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you don't have to used things as advertised, It's just great to have different types of paints for you to experiment with in your toolbox. Great guide as always!
@R-SXX
@R-SXX 2 жыл бұрын
So true, i was curious and bought something-fur contrast from GW but instead of using as intended, I used it as some sort of drip and oil leakage on my space Marines - looks amazing
@VicodinElmo
@VicodinElmo 2 жыл бұрын
Duncan, you have been an utterly invaluable resource for me as a new mini painter. I’ve always wanted to start but it’s only now I’m 30 and financially secure that I can really dive into it guilt-free! I know there’s no replacement for straight up painting time; however, I definitely feel like I’ve picked up an unbelievable amount of information in quite a short time from your videos during painting downtime. The KZbin community for mini painting is amazing on the whole but you and a few others have been my go-to for easily digestible information. After each video, I find myself eager and inspired to go back to my minis and try new things out!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for the kind words and for taking the time to comment, we really appreciate it.
@FluteGnome
@FluteGnome 2 жыл бұрын
I heard you quit GW because contrast paints couldnt be done in 2 thin coats.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
🤫
@Hockey-gn2tj
@Hockey-gn2tj Жыл бұрын
Can you explain what you said? Kinda new to this
@GwainSagaFanChannel
@GwainSagaFanChannel 3 ай бұрын
​@@Hockey-gn2tj two thin coats is the channel slogan
@Hockey-gn2tj
@Hockey-gn2tj 3 ай бұрын
@@GwainSagaFanChannel Yeah I figured that out a while ago. Thank you, it’s good paint.
@princeofthevalleys5126
@princeofthevalleys5126 2 жыл бұрын
I dont comment on a lot of videos, but this was one of the MOST informative I have seen. Awesome vid :)
@chaoticpainting1507
@chaoticpainting1507 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you're straight to the point and display and explain exactly what it is you're doing to achieve different results. Very well done bro! 🤘🏼
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@RyanPST88
@RyanPST88 2 жыл бұрын
I already knew the difference but watched the whole thing anyway. You're our hobbies' Neil Buchanan / Bob Ross. Keep being awesome DRPA.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will do!
@StripesW
@StripesW 2 жыл бұрын
I have found contrast to be useful for creating smooth transitions from recess to flat surface on large textured surfaces (animal skin for example). The 2-in-1 basecoat and shading over white does not really work nearly as well as advertised in my experience however.
@TAP7a
@TAP7a 2 жыл бұрын
I found doing interesting things with the priming and undercoat is a good way to get slightly cooler effects from Contrast. I've got a kill team of Iron Hands and simply putting black contrast over a metallic prime made a very cool finish for black armour quickly and easily. Applying it over a directional undercoat that sets your lighting out from the start or even a multicoloured prime is also a good way of adding more interest than just contrast over a light base
@breakupgoogle4584
@breakupgoogle4584 2 жыл бұрын
The contrast marketing seemed to go a different route from what the paint designers had in mind.
@datscootusee213
@datscootusee213 2 жыл бұрын
I like the prospect of this kind of educational video. Duncan has always had an unusually fantastic vocal pacing, and whoever does the writing for his ticker is spot on. If he's just going adlib then no wonder he has his own academy. I'd enjoy seeing a video on the concept of wet blending. Is there any interest in throwing up additional visual aids in future? Things like graphics showing interaction, hand motion, etc?
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Rog and I go through the stages and work it out then we just go for it! We have a full tutorial on our website for wet blending if you're interested.
@datscootusee213
@datscootusee213 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA I absolutely am, thank you for the heads up!
@thorinteague989
@thorinteague989 2 жыл бұрын
The first 3 minutes of this video is what I've been wanting to know since the day I first heard of contrast paints. Thank you so much for this post, it really did answer my questions.
@DizzWhazzUp
@DizzWhazzUp 2 жыл бұрын
I also use contrast as shades, but thinned down. You can use Contrast Medium if you still want it to act like a contrast paint, or if you use a colour that you don't have in the shade-/wash line (like yellow or pink, which isn't really common in wash-form), you can use water to thin down contrast paints as well, and it will behave a bit more like a wash than it would with the intended thinner. I recommend people just try both/all thing they can think of, as you can find a use for every single texture/effect you discover. That "torn skin"-lpok you mentioned if you touch the contrast-pool too early can also have its uses for certain effects, with different undercoats etc. It's insane how much the contrast/wash lines can be used for, it's really just about exploring and your own fantasy is the limit!
@ArkAngel_45
@ArkAngel_45 2 жыл бұрын
I love contrast paints because I use them in a specific way that suits the effect I'm trying to achieve. My favorite is to use Blood Angels red over bright silver metallic and you get a great red color with a metallic sheen.
@richardjones7984
@richardjones7984 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that very clear description of the differences in the paint and the techniques of applying it. Very useful, thanks again.
@DavidS-dw1wv
@DavidS-dw1wv Жыл бұрын
Amazingly systematic and comprehensive tutorial! Thank you for creating this.
@adamozmin8970
@adamozmin8970 2 ай бұрын
thank you, cleared it up perfectly and made buying paints less stressful. legend
@cmleibenguth
@cmleibenguth 2 жыл бұрын
I think the intense staining thing you mention for contrast paints is why nearly every painting tutorial that I see that uses them says: "Now, take your XYZ contrast paint, and we're going to thin it down with Contrast Medium. About 3 to 4 parts contrast to 1 part XYZ." To really lighten up on the staining power. I haven't seen many that use the contrast paint without at least a little mixing with contrast medium.
@randylahey77
@randylahey77 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner with painting, but so far I've found that dark contrast paints can be really useful, and in general all contrast paints are pretty good for organic/ fleshy surfaces. For anything else though I find it too unforgiving to work with.
@TorianTammas
@TorianTammas Жыл бұрын
you need a glossy primer under them to work properly as it flows better and well the Citadel constrast are to thick to begin with. You can thin them down. I found Vallejo xpress very good as they are thinner and have a better consistency all over the color range.
@markcooper6057
@markcooper6057 2 жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation, thank you. This noob recently painted some grey-primed Zombicide zombies with Citadel washes, to try for a speedy muted effect. Took two coats of each but it worked well enough (for me, noob expectations!) But it left me wondering what Contrast/SpeedPaints would do differently. This timely video was the perfect explanation. For me, I'll stick to normal acrylics + washes, as the repair efforts look simpler.
@jup331
@jup331 2 жыл бұрын
Big thank you!!! Especially the quick point about how the brush should be handled. Im a noob and those basics are still somewhat foreign to me and those quick talkingpoints are often ignored.
@marahadjan
@marahadjan 2 жыл бұрын
Im a beginner painter and the thing about overloading your brush was a good lesson. I genarally feel like the most basic stuff is overlook (or hard to find) when it comes to painting. Good job!
@EnzoGarabatos
@EnzoGarabatos 2 жыл бұрын
Duncan has a video for beginners that is very good. 5 things I wished I know when I started painting, or something along those lines.
@ShadoLiteSinema
@ShadoLiteSinema 2 жыл бұрын
Now these are the videos that I have been looking forward to!! Thanks a ton!!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
No worries 😊
@King_of_Sofa
@King_of_Sofa 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't want to spend unnecessarily on tons of different paint products, here a trick Wash = 1 part paint, 1 part medium, 2 part water Contrast paint = 1 part paint, 2 part medium you can use inks in place of paints when mixing these formulas, but use less ink than you would use paint because inks have stronger pigmentation
@yourgoodliness
@yourgoodliness 2 жыл бұрын
The comparative examples and detailed explanation of the application were beautifully effective. Thank you!
@philgagnon275
@philgagnon275 2 жыл бұрын
Started a death guard army for the express purpose of doing the whole thing in contrast. This was a great source of info, so thank you for this
@ovidiudiumea4012
@ovidiudiumea4012 2 жыл бұрын
Did you go for it? If so, how did it turn out?
@philgagnon275
@philgagnon275 2 жыл бұрын
@@ovidiudiumea4012 still working on it. I can tell you one thing... Grey seer primer worked better than white. Pox walkers look really good. Alot of flat panels on the plague Marines so you have to take a bit more care. So far not a terrible experience, but I think there's a place to use them in conjunction with traditional paints.
@Murdolph
@Murdolph Ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I am a beginner painter and I bought starter sets of AP speedpaints and Val game color. I was trying to decide if I need a wash as well but I think I should just stick with what I have and see what I can do first before I spend more money.
@petertbbrett
@petertbbrett 2 жыл бұрын
This is really helpful -- especially the detailed look at recess shading with contrast paints vs. washes. Thank you!
@martinfamily2013
@martinfamily2013 2 жыл бұрын
Just started up painting warhammer 40k again after 25 years. Trying contrast paints for the first time on orcs and all your guides have helped alot. Ty
@GarethLewin
@GarethLewin 2 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video Duncan, please make more of these.
@jaredt9718
@jaredt9718 2 жыл бұрын
I really like these types of videos. Showing us how different paints work and when to apply it helps gives context to different techniques that we can use. It also helps to understand if we mess up how to fix those problem areas. Great job guys.
@craigarkle1077
@craigarkle1077 2 жыл бұрын
This is ideal. Literally went into GW the other week to ask about it after watching and wanting to follow the iron warriors video you have!
@MrSmashySmash
@MrSmashySmash 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh this is definitely a very interesting and captivating format of video. Especially since we're hearing this from an expert no less!
@jmc7034
@jmc7034 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid. Thanks for showing the different uses for both
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JoeBoster
@JoeBoster 2 жыл бұрын
See a lot of people use contrast for wet blending these days. And reactivating speed paint on purpose for better blend. The breaking to the brown was fascinating. My problem is I always seem to overload my brush and get very dark colors. Great stuff!
@jrod25x
@jrod25x 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Thank you for all of your videos as well.
@aaronguerrette
@aaronguerrette 2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are different but ive been enjoying taking a opaque base paint and then enhancing it with a contrast paint. Example being Mournfeng Brown and then Snakebite Leather. Or Mephiston Red with a Flesh Tearers Red. Another one is Lead Belcher plus Basilicanum Grey. THE LAST ONE. Corax White. Then Yriel Yellow. Then AP Zealot Yellow. Instant Flame jobs
@markmyerson859
@markmyerson859 2 жыл бұрын
Great summary and appreciated the live examples. Thanks.
@noblegalifreyan4551
@noblegalifreyan4551 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks this helps my friend who's painting up his Lannisters.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@steffniko4055
@steffniko4055 Жыл бұрын
As always, great stuff, thanks for tge help ! Fellow Raptor reporting for duty.
@synthomite405
@synthomite405 2 жыл бұрын
for that necron trick, I use it for my alpha legion and you can use a large brush with the contrast and apply it like a drybrushing all over the mini and it looks pretty good
@DesolateZombie
@DesolateZombie 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my Two Thin Coats Paints in the mail and I can't wait to start using them! The gold and silver are so vibrant!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! We hope you enjoy using them and thank you for the support 😊
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful video. Thank you. Keep up the good work.
@Fotta1989
@Fotta1989 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the clarification, thanks!
@R-SXX
@R-SXX 2 жыл бұрын
For me, contrast paint was THE savior to create leakage and oil stains on my grimdark space Marines, I also used it the same way on my neurons. It gives Gold also a great used look (I am talking about something fur - contrast ), really helped to create this darkish used artstyle
@Hudson316
@Hudson316 2 жыл бұрын
Did you try the Typhus Corrosion technical, and if so how did that compare to the contrast for the oil spills?
@sirdanthechipwright821
@sirdanthechipwright821 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent content, so informative and exciting! Been wondering about using space wolves contrast to recess shade my Fenryka army. So this settles that and I can't wait to get started. Thanks, Duncan!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Anytime. Glad it helped
@ExtradaemonYT
@ExtradaemonYT 2 жыл бұрын
Do have to say that "Skin tearing" you showed off on the skeleton would make a great worn leather effect.
@georgemasonsghost4062
@georgemasonsghost4062 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking along those lines, but more like staining or fading.
@HarryFelker
@HarryFelker 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I can't wait until the DR set comes!!!!
@eugenemcniel7622
@eugenemcniel7622 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you this was perfect to understand the differences
@덩실덩실
@덩실덩실 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't know you can read minds! Perfect answer for what I've been wondering! Thank you!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@broodicus1
@broodicus1 2 жыл бұрын
Proper stoked for your line of paints
@dancheetham2649
@dancheetham2649 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing to mention is that I ONLY use contrast paints to create glazes. If you mix them with either glaze medium or a lot of water you can use the colours to tint other colours to create new ones! really interesting to experiment with
@amorbavian
@amorbavian 2 жыл бұрын
I know the difference, I'm just here to listen to Duncan's voice.
@Gahmaz0z
@Gahmaz0z Жыл бұрын
Very helpful for helping me understand how the contrast paints work. I was having troubles getting them to go on right cause I was applying them more like a wash... haha
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@jordanwilliams5849
@jordanwilliams5849 Жыл бұрын
That was one classy intro! top notch!
@Vapourwear
@Vapourwear 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite use for contrast type paints is as a first overcoat over a solid base of a similar color. I find it gives a richer smoother result, generally better than a similarly colored wash for many of my purposes. When I just want to get something done: Base Contrast Lowlights/details Dry brush Probably done
@benmiles00
@benmiles00 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really interesting and very helpful video. Many thanks
@Mechanic618
@Mechanic618 2 жыл бұрын
09:00 I would have thinned that contrast paint as much as 50/50 with contrast medium so it flows better and creates more of a highlight/depth effect rather than looking like just a regular black paint application.
@BENR8108
@BENR8108 2 жыл бұрын
Duncan; some ideas for your next videos. Necessary modeling and painting gear, brush care, modeling and painting processes.
@ThijsSchrijnemakers
@ThijsSchrijnemakers 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Duncan
@doubleeadg3d
@doubleeadg3d 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this. I would be interested to know about the compositional differences between the two, i.e. what mediums/additives make them different.
@antoniobarquinha2201
@antoniobarquinha2201 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative, I will keep using the old base color technique but am now open to use a contrast paint here and there when needed! Thank you! Also I second a varnish tutorial, have been working on a KO army and I am afraid of loosing the metal I've accomplished!
@philhitchings
@philhitchings 2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial DR. Paint
@4rkadi
@4rkadi 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, where do glazes fall on this spectrum?
@troabarton69
@troabarton69 2 жыл бұрын
This is something I'm curious about as well. And when you're making your own washes and glazes, what do you need to look out for as far as common mistakes?
@rasmusolesen5307
@rasmusolesen5307 2 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure that glazes are interchangeable with washes. A lot of confusion could come from both words being used as nouns and verbs. Some people will do a "glazing" with a wash, and other will do a wash with a glaze. And applying a glaze, or glazing as a painting technique might mean something different than applying a wash.
@Alf_Hairy-arse
@Alf_Hairy-arse 2 жыл бұрын
@@rasmusolesen5307 The difference is I where you want to paint to end up. A wash or shade is intended to run into recesses for natural shading. It does slightly stain the upper surfaces but most of it goes into recesses. A glaze is almost the opposite as it is intended to go on the raised areas and affect the colour. A glaze is essentially a really thin layer paint. some people paint with glazes in the sense they do lots and lots of really thin layers with the colour getting brighter each time; this gives a smooth transition through the colours and doesn't clog up details as the paint is so thin. Another use is to smooth out transitions normally - say for example you have a shade, base and highlight but the colour jump is quite big, an all over glaze of the mid tone can help bring it all together. Another use can be if the highlight is too pale as a glaze of the mid tone will tint it slightly and add more colour. Hope that makes sense and helps.
@rasmusolesen5307
@rasmusolesen5307 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alf_Hairy-arse I wasn't the one asking the question ;) And my examples of everyone having their own definitions of what a glaze and a wash is, keeps getting deleted. So thanks for providing an example of your definition :D
@jhoodfysh
@jhoodfysh Жыл бұрын
Thank you Duncan, that helped me a lot.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped and you're welcome
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , DRPA. 🐺
@Nick02111989
@Nick02111989 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos mate, thank you so much for all the tips you provide.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@treydudley7966
@treydudley7966 2 жыл бұрын
Duncan, would you consider doing some videos on the qualities of particular paints in your new line? I can always look at a picture of the color, but without having the viscosity, coverage, finish, &c explained by a painter actually showing off the paint it’s difficult to know exactly what products I want to buy.
@KananNallainathan
@KananNallainathan 7 ай бұрын
thanks so much Duncan! 👍🏽👍🏽
@grog3514
@grog3514 2 жыл бұрын
I am a beginner and have a question. I want to paint the merchants and marauders ships but they have very light/faint details on the hull of the ship and I want them to look black with brown wood. They are way too small to paint with a detailing brush. Should I paint it brown and then use a black wash or should I use a dark brown speed paint and hope the details look black when it dries?
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Do a test with the speed paint on one model and see if you like the result. A gentle, focused drybrush with a lighter colour will help highlight it.
@MutsuKazuma
@MutsuKazuma 2 жыл бұрын
you can use contrast like a filter and wash for leather after you painted a base coat of for example brown, depends on the effect you want
@ratius1979
@ratius1979 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work D. Love your videos :)
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@PM9Video
@PM9Video Жыл бұрын
Really useful, really great, thank you.
@Volgan16666
@Volgan16666 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what your feelings are about the recent revision of nuln oil and agrex earthshade. Maybe recommend a viable alternative. I sure do miss the old versions especially agrex - may as well stew up an old tea bag and drap it on the mini for five minutes - would be more effective than the new version.
@astormofwrenches5555
@astormofwrenches5555 2 жыл бұрын
I over-did it with the agrax earthshade on a black templars castalan. It....looks terrible. I havent touched it for a couple of weeks because I'm not sure what I should do to fix it.
@terminator572
@terminator572 2 жыл бұрын
The only option I see now is to paint over it, or strip it
@astormofwrenches5555
@astormofwrenches5555 2 жыл бұрын
How do you strip them?
@1crlski
@1crlski 2 жыл бұрын
@@astormofwrenches5555 If your in the states, simple green works great, I just soak them over night int use an old tooth brush to remove the paint, I have a sonic cleaner also for the ones that the brush can;t get into. If you elsewhere I'm sure there is something similar to simple green I remember a video by geek gaming about stripping in the UK and he mentioned purple something
@Xarick
@Xarick 2 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative, keep up the good work. I would love to see a video covering the proper usege of a medium while painting as i haven't the foggiest on how to use it. :D
@AlaskaGuy71
@AlaskaGuy71 2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful, thank you!
@commandoryu
@commandoryu 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any plans to add a "contrast" or "speed" paint section to the Two Thin Coats line?
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
We have spoken about it but we want to complete phase two first... then maybe 😉
@commandoryu
@commandoryu 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Well I'm a small store owner out in Las Vegas and I can't wait to get your paint line in end of this year. The Rack looks great :D I love your videos.
@thomasbryans6547
@thomasbryans6547 2 жыл бұрын
Question, I painted a marine more or less white/light gray, and I used the Agrax Earthshade Shade over it and it’s pretty much turned all the white a dirty brown color. It looks pretty dope actually but it’s not what I was going for. Are there different Shades that are better for brighter colors?
@Despius7
@Despius7 2 жыл бұрын
Could you use the tearing of contrast paint to make blood stained cloth? I know there’s wet blending, but I feel that the effect it did on the skeletons robes could make a good stained/worn cloth.
@robbiejohnbird
@robbiejohnbird 2 жыл бұрын
If you added flow improver to the contrast paint would you get something like a wash - more intensity in the recesses and longer drying time?
@CliosPaintingBench
@CliosPaintingBench 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Duncs, very informative!
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!!!
@stuffandnonsense8528
@stuffandnonsense8528 2 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to know if the Two Thin Coats range will be available in the UK from the get go. I understand that the US is a bigger market, but I kind of feel like this hobby belongs to the UK in a special sort of way (not an exclusionary way).
@georgemasonsghost4062
@georgemasonsghost4062 2 жыл бұрын
I'm older than most, or all, of you. Just turned 58. Almost 50 years ago when I got into this hobby, American miniature companies were still few. All the best figs were coming from Britain. All of the best rule sets were British. HG Wells' Little Wars. It was the epicenter of wargameing. Should have said up front, I'm a Yank, and I agree with you, the hobby belongs to you guys. Thanks for sharing.
@stuffandnonsense8528
@stuffandnonsense8528 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgemasonsghost4062 thank you for this. And I absolutely don't mean it in an exclusionary way at all. Clearly D&D is very much American and contributed hugely to miniature gaming and tabletop gaming in general. And I suspect a full history needs to include board gaming, with the lineage including things like chess. But yes, Little Wars is part of what I think about, but also some of the fantasy and dark Sci-fi fiction which goes into a lot of the flavour. In some ways I suspect it is because the weather here is often inclement, so sitting inside painting a model or playing a game is a good way to spend free time.
@georgemasonsghost4062
@georgemasonsghost4062 2 жыл бұрын
@@stuffandnonsense8528 I don't see why anyone would take it in an exclusionary way. Nothing wrong with acknowledging something's place of origin. You guys gave a great hobby to the world. Be proud.
@stuffandnonsense8528
@stuffandnonsense8528 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgemasonsghost4062 sure, but I suppose I just want to communicate how I view it very much as shared thing, but at the same time it makes me a little sad when I find the market going purely to North America and little old Blighty gets left behind. I'm sure Duncan will sell the paints here at some point.
@Groovestonenz
@Groovestonenz Жыл бұрын
This might be a strange question, but is there ever a time when it would make sense to start with a contrast paint and apply a wash over the top once its dried?
@TheOniraf
@TheOniraf 2 жыл бұрын
So I am having problem recess shading ultramarine with null oil so you are suggesting to use black templar that i have around?
@quiggsy8571
@quiggsy8571 2 жыл бұрын
Could that tear effect from breaking the skin of contrast paint be used constructively? The example you gave looked fairly close to old parchment
@kampfeule5486
@kampfeule5486 2 жыл бұрын
9:13 the next step would be to take a Q-tip, dipped in Mineral spirit to wash away the layer of paint. Like with Enamel-washes.
@kamb26
@kamb26 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Duncan! I’ve just started painting and like it a lot. One thing I’ve noticed from watching a ton of videos is some painters prefer recessed shading as opposed to all over. Is that just cause they don’t want to layer the base coat back on after? Oh also is there a video or tutorial on layering? I think I understand it but I’m not 100 percent sure. Do you paint the basecoat back on over the shade? Any help from anyone would be appreciated. Thanks for all the tips! They are very helpful.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Layering is simply re-establishing your mid-tone colour after shading. Depending on the miniature, you can recess shade (Space Marine Panels) or you can do an all-over shade (Organic parts of a miniature, like skin.) It all depends on you and what you are comfortable with and what works for you as a painter. 😊
@naughtiusmaximus1231
@naughtiusmaximus1231 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video; do you recommend using only one type of paint on a model? For instance can you use contrast and regular layer paint on the same model, or does the difference in finish look odd?
@stefan020290
@stefan020290 2 жыл бұрын
Watch Juan Hidalgo miniatures here on KZbin, he does it all the time, starts with contrast and uses regular acrylics for highlights. It can definitely be done and not look odd.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Hudson316
@Hudson316 2 жыл бұрын
As a note, if you get the Army Painter speed paint line (their equivalent of Contrast paints) you gotta be careful doing this. If you want to paint over them, you have to seal the surface after you apply the speedpaint or it'll reactivate when you try to paint over it and mix with the upper layers and onto your brush. The same thing that gives it the smoother finish some people like stops it setting quite the same.
@ragmority
@ragmority 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea when the kickstarter paints should be arriving?
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
They have started shipping. All the Jester Pledges have been sent out and the team at TAG is packing and shipping the rest over the next month or so. 😊
@ragmority
@ragmority 2 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Great. Thanks for the info ^^
@happyhunter
@happyhunter 2 жыл бұрын
Duncan u can use tamiya panel liners for power armor.
@whzpoor
@whzpoor 2 жыл бұрын
I want to know Duncan's tissue brand, it always looks so pleasingly absorbant
@timm7305
@timm7305 2 жыл бұрын
Asking the real questions. Would love to know
@Autarch-Chang
@Autarch-Chang Жыл бұрын
duncan...how would u make agrax earth shade gloss?? gw aint doing that anymore and my trench fighters have that on their bases to make a wet muddy feeling
@kgoblin5084
@kgoblin5084 Жыл бұрын
On a related topic: inks are neither washes nor contrast-type paints, they're their own thing as well. You can use inks to mix your own wash/contrast-type paints at the desk... but pure ink behaves like neither. I think a big part of all the confusion stems from 'wash' being a technique 1st vs. a paint type... the paint type was in fact formulated to be the best fit for an established technique, but the problem is people still do the technique with other types of paint, including inks, contrast, thinned down oils, & stain varnishes. With stain varnishes it gets even more complicated, because we have good old AP strong tone... which is a stain varnish but sold in the AP washes product line. Compound that with an annoying tendency in the model community to ignore nuances in both material & technique... & just say 'contrast is just a wash', or 'I've done slapchopping(*) for years with inks & it's really grisaille'. The reality is while all this stuff has a LOT of similarities, there are also differences... that can ruin your paint job if you don't understand them. You slapchop with pure inks you're NOT going to be happy with the result, as the paint job will most likely end up a really shiny, runny mess. Use pure contrast or inks as a wash, you'll likely have painted over all of your original detail you were trying to shade. Those differences are also why I will strongly argue that the 'slapchop' technique is actually new & novel, albeit a natural, obvious evolution from the introduction of contrast-type paints rather than the invention of a certain youtuber whose used it for notoriety & gave it a stupid name. You try the technique with inks, stain varnishes, or wash-type paints, you'll likely be unhappy with the result. The fixes for getting a happy result with those types of paints either involve acquiring additional skills... or altering the paint thru the addition of mediums. It only became an easy 1-2-3 step process with reliable results when we had contrast paints... which were basically designed for a very similar technique. And that's why the technique suddenly became a big deal a few years after contrast paints hit the market. * = Just to be clear, I hate the term slapchop, but I'm using it here for the sake of brevity. Or in other words, don't at me bro - I agree with you :p
@victorgonzalez2927
@victorgonzalez2927 Жыл бұрын
When and where can we get Two Thin Coats? Missed the crowdfunding and want to add these paints to my paint kit.
@JohnVanderbeck
@JohnVanderbeck Жыл бұрын
What if you took a "normal" color (EG Game Color or Model Color) and then added either Flow Improver or actual Contrast/Express Medium? Would you essentially get a contrast/express paint from that normal color?
@troabarton69
@troabarton69 2 жыл бұрын
How do you go about choosing what colors to use for washes, especially for brightly colored schemes or a mix of metallic and a riot of colors like Tzeentch?
@stefan020290
@stefan020290 2 жыл бұрын
Try to get a feeling and what you are going for I would suggest. A brown or sepia shade fits almost anything and provides a soft shadow. You can use a black wash for a very harsh shadow maybe spice up the colour. Using a purple wash on green skin for example or on yellow armour of an imperial fist (complimentary contrast).
@troabarton69
@troabarton69 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefan020290 Any thoughts or know any resources for good washes on blue or fire effects?
@stefan020290
@stefan020290 2 жыл бұрын
@@troabarton69 not really, I would rather advice against using washes on fire effects. Fire is warmth and light, you wouldn't want a wash on a flame since the flame doesn't have any shadow. You could use yellow or orange inks to increase maybe some of the vibrancy of the colours.
@troabarton69
@troabarton69 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefan020290 Oh, didn't think about that! I have some red ink from P3 but have mostly used it for auburn hair and burgundy clothes.
@1crlski
@1crlski 2 жыл бұрын
@@troabarton69 most washes are just diluted inks, while I have multiple colors in washes, I have found that inks do a better job and I can dilute them and lessen the effect as required, it may just be a personal preference but I think inks are better then washes.
@Ceetvair
@Ceetvair 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Duncan looks a bit exhausted tho. Hope you're doing fine.
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