The Differences Between Muscle And Pony Cars

We’ve all heard the term ‘muscle car’ for a variety of rear-driven, V8-powered cars from ‘Murica. But is ‘pony car’ a more appropriate term in some cases? Let's find out!
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Better than that strange sounding American guy they have normally.

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[@alexkersten1964]

I had a cold ;)

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Viewing It looks like Alex, he has some videos with good gaps between them, and he also has a lot of activity related to Car Throttle and other channels.

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Michael Druyan Chill, Alex is on a vacation.

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Vacation...ain't nobody got time for dat! Was better for Jake to do the voiceover for this, what with being MURICAN and all!

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[@ikagiorgadze5707]

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[@MelloManLive]

Those old Mustangs are so beautiful

[@travisterry6288]

My Toyota Prius probably falls in the muscle car category.

[@vasu5361]

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[@waqasuzair9995]

As muscular as Japanese get

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[@chele089]

Same. The car he was referencing is called Galaxie though - but of course one can't hear that.

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[@harrismike7946]

We have a 64 galaxie XL in our garage and it still works pretty good

[@the_pigs_have_rebelled]

DatPolishGuy it's the 1964 ford galaxie not the ford galaxy mpv

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Ha right??? WHERE'S Alex!

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you read my mind!!!

[@alexkersten1964]

Jake works for CT too. He's legit :)

[@iphone202020220]

Bring back the Brit!

[@jakeorr8599]

Thank ya

[@SpyderRios]

Modern muscle cars. 2007-2009 GT500, 2010-2013 GT500, Charger SRT8, Super Bee, Hellcat, Challenger SRT8, ScatPack, ZL1. Pony cars: Mustang GT, Camaro SS. In reality all of them are muscle cars due to their power, rear wheel drive and lineage. Pony cars to me are the V6 models.

[@jessicataylor4071]

SpyderRios the zl1 is more of a pony car than the ss camaro

[@z28ninja]

Ki Taylor how so? The ZL1 is the lead Camaro in terms of HP and Engine..

[@lcarrasco212]

Wakko1LT it handles better

[@sidewayzsrt706]

lcarrasco212 See this is where this video is quite dumb in my opinion. A pony car isn’t defined by how good it can handle, it’s more defined by wether the handling is a large focus and a selling point. The ZL1 is muscle, the ZL1 1LE is pony it could even be considered sports car at this point due to the fact that the 1LE was made for better handling

[@lcarrasco212]

@@sidewayzsrt706 q tips directly say do not use to clean ears. Yet, they still clean ears very good lol. Advertisement is only marketing. They can say whatever they want to get you to buy or avoid legal complications...ps Chevy is not like a rock haha

[@strato_blue]

"Where so you stand?" Outside a dodge dealership

[@lpenrike]

theres a very easy way to tell if its a muscle car or a pony car: show it to jeremy clarkson if he likes it, its a pony if he dislikes it, its a muscle

[@heeboheebo9690]

the chair is back, but renji won Actually that is wrong. In his review about 2016 Ford Mustang Fastback 5.0 Jeremy Clarkson said: "It’s (mustang) billed as a sports car, but that’s like calling the Flying Scotsman a “sports train”. It just isn’t. It’s too heavy. What it is, is a muscle car. And you sense that in the second yard. This is a machine that wants to turn its tyres into smoke and go round every corner sideways. You’ve seen the film Bullitt. Well, it’s that. This is emphatically not a criticism, because who wants to go round the Nürburgring in 40 seconds when you can go round slowly, sideways and smiling?" And that is in contradiction with this video where the Mustang is considered a pony. But as you can see from the article, Jeremy is not in any way against the idea of a fast straight line muscle car that gives you the smiles per gallon. Look it up.

[@lpenrike]

it was just a joke, dude

[@ToXiiCxGUNNER]

What the fuck are u on about? Laugh at it agree and move on. No need to write a damn essay ffs

[@aidanred6270]

I say V6 variants of the big three are pony cars, while the GT, SS, and SRT+ are your regular muscle cars. Gt500, Hellcat, last gen Zl1 are die hard muscle cars. Could also throw in the CTS-V. The GT350, Boss 302, Z28, and new Zl1 are in a new class of handling focused muscle cars for the track. I say they're still muscle cars, just ones that can turn. Simple as that. Corvettes and Vipers are sports cars in my eyes but that's a different debate.

[@miloslogic]

if Hellcat is die hard muscle car, then what in the absolute hell is upcoming Demon SRT? and you probably meant to say Zl1-1LE for handling focused muscle cars..

[@usernamealreadytaken770]

CTS-V in my eyes is a sports car and not a muscle car.

[@aidanred6270]

Samuel Wu I'd have to disagree there. The last gen CTSV was very much straight line speed as is the new one. And its a big old sedan. The ATSV would be more of a sports car/sports saloon

[@aidanred6270]

***** I don't think just because it can handle makes it not a muslce car. If you've ridden in one you'll know the S550 is still very much a muscle car

[@TheIrishPhantom]

The new Camaro is so similar to the Corvette that I think it's become a problem. You have 2 cars that act as toys that are inconvenient to daily drive, one is just more expensive and slightly more obnoxious. They are both sports cars. I would think the Mustang and Challenger are more similar because they can drive very comfortably and have usable amounts of interior/trunk space.

[@TheDukeViper]

Nice video. I'd say that nowadays pony cars are the cheaper non-V8 versions, like the Ecoboost or V6 Mustang, the Camaro 1LT V6 models. I'd consider all V8 versions of these Cars muscle cars, even if they are starting to get independent rear suspension more akin to sportscars. Fair point if you think that tech makes the cars pony cars, but the category is evolving. Why shouldn't high-end muscle cars handle better. It's about time. I think the correct term for the top of the line cars such as the GT350 and ZL1 etc are muscle cars that rival sportscars and even some GT cars. They have the power, and the ability to handle much better. In short: Non-V8 models = pony cars V8 models = muscle cars V8 high-end models = sportscar/GT car rivalling muscle cars

[@HippieSkippy100]

Don Jablonsky - non V8 with mods = rivals track/race cars with high hp and torque able to take turns. Not just a straight line. Ecoboost for example, modded right can smoke Camaros, Corvettes, Hellcats. The future is here folks. Stop the purist mentality and open your minds. There’s so many examples nowadays. I remember when Imports started showing up to drag races and people would laugh, until they just had their jaws dropped because that quick Import just did a 9-10sec pass.

[@AndreasNV]

I wish that all informative KZbin videos were this short. Great work.

[@ayyds]

Who dis

[@alexkersten1964]

Dat be Jake, an actual American

[@shinkuhs]

Alex Kersten Does he hav a channel. i remember him. hes the one that owns a police interceptor crown victoria

[@ayyds]

Alex Kersten thanks for reply sexy

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New phone who dis?

[@iphone202020220]

+Alex Kersten Who gives a fuck if he is "a real american' You have one of the most hated countries aside from North Korea.

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[@melwem]

N-n-no...

[@pablogrey9913]

Alex is his name, :)

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No thanks, I'll keep this dude

[@polohare]

man like Alex Kersten. He's part German too

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jaco2023 fuck that British fuck

[@xgamesgameplays1]

Sounds like ChrisFix

[@majedsaati8175]

Dodge should just do the big 2 door Charger Muscle car all over again (long wheel base). That would sell like hot cakes and offering a manual gearbox would be heavenly!!

[@97I30T]

Majed Saati That would take too many sales away from the challenger.

[@majedsaati8175]

Then just replace the challenger.

[@acog_quarks8753]

internal competition is not good

[@edwardharcum3297]

I agree

[@tavmaniandevil2534]

just make the Challenger more in the handling department, kind of like a cheaper Viper that doesn’t have an angry V10.

[@mgjamesfin7011]

i stand by the fact that i still dont have a car ;(

[@pablogrey9913]

Same, I be needing one too!

[@Gaphalor]

no shame i drive the old 2nd car of my parents, a Dacia Sandero XD, but hell no i wont complain i didnt had to pay a single penny and i can move from A to B, so i am happy (for the moment of course)

[@heronumbertwo3171]

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[@yahya.muhammad.khan1]

You're not alone. But InshaAllah in future we'll all have 😄

[@GodMaxDrinkerofTea]

how about now?

[@anders2821]

So basically Muscle Cars can only go fast straight

[@flux7945]

...no. Watch the video.

[@lukaslrg216]

Andre S. What Andre said is exactly what the video is saying actually...

[@flux7945]

No. Muscle cars weren't made explicitly for straightaways. Look at the Z28.

[@dfq101]

MiNy_PiXeL thats why they keep runing into the crowds huh?

[@horatiohuffnagel7978]

Thanks captain obvious.

[@markskristians]

No idea who was the guy talking but he did an amazing job!

[@sergiuancas4968]

Where I live,when a Mustamg is on the road,no matter what,everybody takes pictures and looks at it.It's like it controlls the cars on the road.

[@zacharymessner6157]

Sergiu Ancăş what planet do u live on?

[@assi2assi]

i live in germany an noone cares if you drive with a modern mustang. they only get annoyed by the sound

[@mikehawk6175]

Where do you live mate

[@aznvermilion8177]

@@zacharymessner6157 simply said, wherever that a car may get expensive and difficult to attain, will attract attention. Im a Malaysian, and the fact that our currency is 4 times smaller than the US + our otherworldly insane import excise duties (up to 105% of the price), so you can guess how it is here for car enthusiast. The scene is funny here, if you can afford brand new japanese sport cars (sti, brz, mx5, etc,.) or muscle cars (we only have mustang here), then its easy to assume that you are wealthy lol (business owners, high earning executives, athletes). For a mustang gt 5.0, it costs RM600 000 here, equivalent of $144889.08.

[@harpchicken3248]

@@assi2assi I love the sound

[@hooviedoovie5220]

Any sporty V8 from Chevy, Dodge, or Ford is a muscle car in my books.

[@flux7945]

Even the Corvette?

[@this-is-big-john]

mini hoov Or the Viper?

[@hooviedoovie5220]

jonathan perez that is arguably a supercar along with the ford gt. i wouldn't consider those muscle cars

[@nonononamer]

I can consider the modern corvettes muscle cars because of the V8 form factor... Dodge Viper on the other hand has an 8.4l V10...

[@justinbeath5169]

Mclarens and Ferrari 488s use v8s. By your standards now they're muscle cars. Your classification makes no sense

[@michaelgallagher2376]

wow someone with a voice I can tolerate

[@pokebass1]

I must note that the Plymouth Barracuda was released 18 days before the Ford Mustang. The Barracuda was released on the day of April 1, 1964, while the Mustang was released on April 19, 1964. This makes the Barracuda the first pony car, though the popularity of the Mustang brought about the term.

[@s5filty]

always had a soft spot for cudas

[@KM-px8cs]

I'm just happy people recognize the Challenger as what it really is.

[@turboahdettusupra58]

Ponys like to run to crowds thats for sure!

[@pablogrey9913]

More people buy=more money! so I would too.

[@flux7945]

Stop shitting on my cousins, dude. He's been bullied for a whole year just because of some stupid mistake. How would you like it if I did the same?

[@jessejlewismeng]

Turboahdettu Supra don't forget the curbs

[@dapottis]

Ponys are cute so they want to be cuddled by the crowds. thats why

[@jessejlewismeng]

Mitch Hulleman lmao bull shit you're so wrong

[@McFreshfleisch]

Welp. I guess I'm one of the purists. Today's V8 powered cars are not muscle cars, just because they aren't similar to the good old muscle cars in the slightest way. The only thing they have in common is DAT V8 BRUH - 'MURICA FCK YEEAAAH

[@diebratwurst4299]

I absolutely love the Challenger, my Family owns one and its super Fun to drive

[@KM-px8cs]

Very well explained!

[@martijnbruggers8694]

Where is Alex!?

[@lolripk]

who killed captain Alex

[@COYM_1908]

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[@BigSmoke2334]

It's all American muscle either way

[@idontneedameme3665]

BigSmoke2334 or Australian muscle cough HOLDEN cough cough

[@bambam23406]

Jerrymations ! Isn't That American company made

[@BigSmoke2334]

Aye, as long as it has a big fat "American" V8 we can get along XD

[@idontneedameme3665]

BigSmoke2334 or Australian v8

[@BigSmoke2334]

Eh, Tomayto tomahto

[@bradenmurphy4980]

That was COOL! 😎 I liked and subscibed 😄

[@XplodingTurtle]

Very nice video, nice explenation

[@rolandlafleur5585]

it was 64 in half to be exact when the Mustang debut

[@devilous_4374]

Mustang: pony Challenger: muscle Camaro: sports

[@xninjagrrl]

Xx_neat-beat its been a very long time since camaros even looked muscle-y imo.

[@devilous_4374]

xninjagrrl i never said they're now :)

[@Germantable123]

Pony, muscle, sport apply to all three cars.

[@generolmatt4]

Agreed only the mustang is considering its a horse. The rest are sports cars.

[@Akpepper22]

Sports cars are only 2 seaters...

[@shawnsizemore2239]

This video is so true thank you

[@RobertKohut]

Well said!

[@kirkgrinstead]

pony cars have a long hood and a short deck.

[@savagenomad5731]

Kirk Grinstead you are absolutely right. BTW my real name is Kirk as well.

[@hanzarco7445]

Correction: long comparitively for its body size.

[@brandonroberts73]

The first mustangs were pony cars by 1970 the Boss 302 and the 429 were muscle cars and same goes for the Camaro with the 350 and z/28 they are all muscle cars and so are the dodges and all off that the ford fairlane was not aimed so be a muscle car it was a luxury car. The new mustangs, Camaro, challengers and chargers are all muscle cars if they are in the v8 option they are not sports cars

[@zatharos6427]

I would argue that if a GT350R can run 3 seconds faster than a BMW M4 GTS then I'd say yeah it's definitely a sports car. A Camaro can keep up and even beat a M3 around a circuit as well. If that doesn't scream sports car to you then I have no idea what does

[@sallymcsaggytits6506]

I wouldn’t really agree that the boss 302 is muscle, mostly cause it’s a small block meant for trans am racing, but the boss 429 is a true muscle car.

[@DanielRodriguez-rn9pd]

Sports car would be a 2 door 2 SEATER, a slick low profile design, isn't a one trick pony, it can do everything generally well, like the Corvette and Viper. The Mustang and Camaro are simply modern muscle cars.

[@hamshussein]

Thank you. Thank you. Finally.

[@atomictoddler8692]

very good video

[@nawarmatti9908]

@Car throttle do you rent these cars or just own them??

[@Tom-du9wy]

Nawar Matti steals them

[@nawarmatti9908]

Jesus Saved Me well shit ...

[@DrGru]

RIP MUSCLE CAR....I M CRYING..

[@greatscottpictures4409]

Hey! I know the owner of that galaxy doing the burnout! That is a sweeeet car. And has a lada engine block being used as cup holders 😆

[@lanceh4653]

I always believed, and was taught back in the mid 70s that the distinguishing factor was that a Muscle car had a full frame and a Pony car featured a sub-frame and unibody construction. I think that makes all the new crop Pony or Sports cars. I always felt this was a fitting definition because Pony cars where available with the same engine and transmission combos as muscle cars. Pontiac Firebird 400 4 speed Coupe versus a Pontiac GTO, both of which are sitting in my garage at home.

[@lobsterbark]

The Mustang is definitely a pony car still, although it leans twords being a sports car. The Camaro is definitely a sports car by now, and the Challenger is still a muscle car. I would say that the current Genisis coupe is more of a pony car than the Mustang, although the Mustang is still a better car in general.

[@DanielRodriguez-rn9pd]

The Camaro is not a sports car, no version of it is. Camaro is simply a modern muscle car, a muscle car that handles better than its ancestors. It still has a V8, it still has a boxy/muscular design, still designed primarily for drag racing, and it still has 2 seats in the back.

[@lexington2287]

Pony car: a lot of power in a straight line Muscle car: a lot of more power in a straight line Right enough?

[@johnnylackland3992]

My favourite pony car is the '67 Mercury Cougar. It is the only automobile I prefer with a vinyl top. My ideal Cougar would have a burgundy body with a black vinyl top. She would have a manual transmission and groove to rock and roll because all my hot cars dig music. Nice video, brother.

[@beast11135]

That Camaro burnout at the end was awesome

[@jonathanrudd1517]

They asked where I stand..... it's where mustang druvers won't crash into me and everyone around me

[@jonathanrudd1517]

*drivers

[@DresdonAcacinTheOriginal]

3rd degree burns! XD

[@lethaldarkness115]

If it looks Badass, has a strong V-8 or Straight-8 engine pumping out a lot of HP, it's a mussel car. Even pony cars can be made into mussel cars if given the right mods.

[@samfahrenkopf8679]

Squshy turtle 115 I don't wanna drive around the sea bud.

[@lethaldarkness115]

tea tester what does the sea have to do with a car? Not like I'm gonna put the K.A.R.R. vs K.I.T.T. move

[@zacharymessner6157]

But this would disqualify the new mustang redesign because it doesn't look badass it looks like the 17 got kicked in the face

[@cmj115]

BlackWatch Squshyturtle 115 Lmao +BOI IF YOU DONT was pointing out your spelling error. This video is about muscle cars, not mussels that people eat.

[@thetruthaboutfacts224]

@@zacharymessner6157 2019 Camaro lol.

[@k0walsk]

Much better narration!

[@vasu5361]

i love the sound and look of lexus Is200

[@dsMAGINO]

nowadays pony car could be called modern muscle🙂

[@douwekruizenga1512]

Challenger FTW💨💨💨

[@nonononamer]

You forgot 707 HP... And that's even above the 2nd gen Lambo V12...

[@ultimatecoolguy1]

NoNamer12345 and 2000 more pounds

[@nonononamer]

The Aventador with the V12 weighs 4000 something pounds and its also AWD... And the Challenger is RWD but its also a muscle car. Its not much weight for that V8 growl lol. And I still don't understand what you meant by "And 2000 more pounds".

[@douwekruizenga1512]

+NoNamer12345 and the Aventador cost over 400 000$ and the hellcat stats just under 60k$

[@douwekruizenga1512]

It's a lot of car for the money

[@alexsaffamerica]

More Car Throttle USA, please!

[@JoeIsCrazyWillman]

Absolutely Agree

[@NotMeHere]

Has Alex hit puberty again?

[@corvettels9]

The Challenger, when it was first introduced, was in the pony car segment. It's Dodge's version of the Barracuda (or 'Cuda at that point). If you're to call the modern Mustang a pony car, then you'd have to call the Challenger one too. The only thing that makes it slightly more "muscle" is that it's built on a sedan platform and it's got some weight to it. I'd have to say that modern muscle cars would include a class of Chevy SS's and probably some of the V8 Mercedes and BMW sedans. It doesn't have to necessarily be a domestic brand to be muscle. Perhaps even the new Ford Interceptors, regardless of displacement, may fall into that category as well. It'd also be pretty cool if Chrysler brought back the Plymouth brand for strictly low-production performance cars. With all of the hype around cause of the Demon, it seems to me that anything coming out of SRT would be a sure-fire hit.

[@heatlifer1531]

I think the term muscle car can be applied a little wider these days.

[@kadetheghost3035]

V8gas A Dodge Charger and a Chevy Impala SS (96-08) Should be considered muscle cars along with the Mercury Marauder

[@sallymcsaggytits6506]

corvettels9 I wouldn’t necessarily call new challengers pony cars too because they’re meant for straight line performance and have much much bigger engines than camaros and mustangs.

[@heatlifer1531]

If everyone wants to be absolutely precise and particular, a Pony car was a Mustang. So no other car not a Mustang, wouldn't be a Pony car. But I had KZbin because it's full of hyper-particular people who only argue a portion of the actual discussion.

[@twin_2339]

corvettels9 nah its always been a muscle car

[@pythyyy5115]

I'm so excited for the Lexus track build

[@robertblack9119]

I just subscribed!

[@RomanM803]

challenger is muscle, end of story

[@blanktemplate4415]

Jaylen Bond The original one was a pony car, then switched to muscle when it was reintroduced.

[@sallymcsaggytits6506]

So is the GT500 and Boss 429 mustangs 🤷‍♂️

[@Floordford]

The Challenger weighs as much as a pick up truck. End of story. No one smart takes the Challenger serious as a good track performer. It's so fat it needs tons of power just to get it's blubber moving. If they got the Challenger a 1,000lbs diet then it'd be a different story.

[@Larcona_]

Floordford So you're insulting the car for not being good at something which it wasn't designed to be good at?

[@Floordford]

Ian Parrish, it was designed as an opposition to the Mustang and Camaro but it's stupid heavy. Therefore it needs big power to move that weight. So then they brag on it's big horsepower numbers meanwhile it's a land going tugboat with numb road feel, horrible crash ratings and huge blind spots. The new Challenger is an embarrassment to it's lineage. And that's coming from a guy whos favorite car is a '71 Challenger R/T.

[@DarkVarda]

No intro and a weird sounding guy who is not alex. Wtf is this?

[@buckshot6481]

Homework, 1964 Pontiac GTO the first muscle car. Not the full size. The intermidate level with the big V8. DeLorean agreed to a Catalina V8 389 in the Tempest.

[@racer2c]

From a manufacturer stand point, the modern Challenger is a 2dr sedan while the Mustang and Camaro are 2+2's. the lines blur when applying labels but 'muscle' cars were traditionally intermediate coupes (2dr sedans) and pony cars were 2+2's.

[@bigsmoke9935]

'Murica always has to have a v8 motor

[@AlastorTheNPDemon]

Big Smoke Then there was the turbocharging in the 80's. Good times.

[@bigsmoke9935]

Thorbjørn Madsen *Hood

[@thorbjrnmadsen4984]

Big Smoke Is english it's called bonnet you fucking idiot.

[@bigsmoke9935]

Thorbjørn Madsen in Murica it's hood, and 0:45

[@nonononamer]

I agree, but the Dodge Viper doe...

[@lennymartinronnieshq3536]

Dont you mean Muscle vs Crowd Control?

[@rsethc]

Cool video. I liked the part with the V8-powered car doing a burnout (so the entire video).

[@sergevserge]

I really like the topic. A car guy friend and I were just talking about this. I lean more towards where the Mustangs/Camaros are going and he prefers the larger 2 Door Challenger. I would classify larger cars such as the Challenger, Hellcat/ Demon as a muscle cars, I would classify the 4 cylinder, V6 model, GT and SS as pony cars, and the Corvette, Viper, GT350. Boss, Camaro ZL1/1LE/Z28 as sports cars. The rest such as GT500 and the older ZL1 as special variants. Of course this ignores the real meaning of sports cars.....

[@Magucci13]

How is the dodge charger hellcat not the definitive modern muscle car? sedan with 700+ horsepower.

[@hollowvlad1532]

Magucci13 because 4 door muscle cars are gay

[@armymatt83]

hollow vlad 4door muscle cars are gay? Ha! only to retards.

[@Larcona_]

It's a muscle sedan...

[@Larcona_]

Moreno12 For some reason 150+mph is an extrenely powerful aphrodisiac.

[@Larcona_]

Moreno12 I assure you, I'm not the stupid half of this conversation.

[@bhavyagohil1476]

MUSTANG- Hits the croud CAMARO- Mid life crisis CHALLENGER- True muscle car

[@gerryrivaldy4281]

overcompensating

[@georgeabounassar664]

Bhavya Gohil no the corvette is the middle life crisis

[@hollowvlad1532]

Bhavya Gohil ah yes challenger now if only they could make one that could stay in its own lane while turning lol 😂

[@acog_quarks8753]

Boat*

[@kiv1739]

Bhavya Gohil * boat

[@pseudosoul1980]

Ignore all the hate! You did a great job on this video!

[@ijumpshot2613]

I didn't know I was watching car throttle at first wtf

[@danbofive]

What is this guy even talking about?

[@ValenNitto]

The WEBM Collection what's a title?

[@brockjohnson100]

The WEBM Collection Latrice?

[@eydzuanrosley522]

i know how you feel

[@Tungdeptra]

Hes talking abour cars

[@scampyfox1766]

Comaro, mustang, and doge will always be muscle cars and there's no debate

[@SomebodyYouKnew]

Scampy Fox you have the best comment.

[@erojerisiz1571]

How to end a car class debate: *THE GOLF IS THE BEST HATCH EVER!!!1!!!*

[@zacharymessner6157]

"Camaro"

[@shoji_3440]

1:13 Wtf was that!!!!!!!!! That space like sound was so cool!!!!

[@sykotic77]

It really deepends on what the definition of of a muscle car, raw power? Size? Combination of both? Suspension? Straight line performance or over all performance? Lots of todays cars pump out more pure or equal power to muscle cars of the past....so where do you draw the line?

[@thetruthaboutfacts224]

Muscle cars must be 1 A large V8 up front. 2 Rear wheel drive. 3 Must be able to seat at least four persons. 4 Must be a large car. 5 Must be a two door car. 6 Must be built for street and strip use, not a road course car. If it runs low 7 min times at the Nurburgring it is not a muscle car PERIOD!

[@blacksheep4310]

Wer schaut aus Deutschland :D

[@xxmountaindewxx7893]

Blacksheep Österreich ^^

[@tudythegangster]

TL:DW muscle cars are overpowered pony cars that handle like crap.

[@flux7945]

ZL1? Z28? GT500? Boss 302?

[@tudythegangster]

Yep, all of those.

[@alexandrosc.6394]

Saleen S7 {Flux} They all handle shit...

[@shorpy3407]

C6, C7, Boss 302, ZL1, GT350, viper, any gen 6 Camaro or any gen 6 Mustang... they all handle like gods

[@tudythegangster]

Compared to other American cars maybe. Compared to European and Asian cars they are rubbish.

[@dannthemann95]

I was thinking about this exact thing a day or two ago....

[@amberlynn6914]

Fun fact. The original barracuda was released like two weeks before the '64.5 mustang

[@010FSL101]

does anyone really care? just give me enough power and a lsd rwd car

[@pablogrey9913]

YES PEOPLE FUCKING CARE! WHY WOULD THEY HAVE MADE THE VIDEO OTHER WISE! Only a true car Guy/Girl gets it

[@shaggings]

Jesus, I have already seen you CAPS LOCKING ON 2 COMMENTS AS IF YOU HAD A SPRUCE IN YOUR ASS.

[@adolfshitler8341]

BlackDragon9921 a true car guy cares about performance, muscle cars are good for straights and handle like shit so they're useless in a circuit, the power is unnecessary for commuting, and they don't have enough power compared to drag cars so the only real point of a muscle car in modern society is to look cool, show wealth, to rice, and to win the traffic light gran prix. A car guy would much prefer an lsx 454 in a brz and race that in a circuit than a muscle car.

[@adolfshitler8341]

I forgot to mention muscle cars are also good for sick burnouts

[@blanktemplate4415]

Adolf Shitler Muscle cars are capable of circuits, i've seen a 3rd gen Firebird go toe to toe with a Mercedes 190E in a race track.

[@r33fal]

Hate the narrated videos... where is the presenter

[@BEEZABO]

so what should a Pontiac GTO be considered? I feel like it's fast and has good handling. I see people drift them alot and they're obviously fast considering the LS.

[@littentheonly5380]

the title acronym is mvp

[@shane56able]

I stand with the JDMs

[@flux7945]

So?

[@bexspace9746]

you are all ricers

[@soccerboy1996]

Shane Lim Japan doesn't make good cars anymore. Name 5 that they do

[@NoahsChampionArk]

Raj Agnihotri Evo x, sti, brz/86, type r Civic, personally don't like it but 370 Ford pinto for life tho, shit so lit

[@cesarcantu9001]

Raj Agnihotri You name 5 best "muscle" cars out there. Oh wait there aren't any. You might as well jump back to the 70s. Heres the most knowledgeable ones out there. 2003-2007 Mitsubishi VII,VII,VIII 2000-2007 Subaru Impreza Wrx, Wrx Sti 1991-1995 Acura NSX 1991-2002 Mazda RX7 FD 1988-1994 Nissan Silvia S13 And the list goes on from 1960s to present time. still whooping beefy V8 motors til' this day.

[@MegaStansfield]

Stop making shit up, friend. Those terms are synonymous

[@MrJMS814]

LOUDER PLEASE

[@DarthB213]

Lol does your car fall under pony ?

[@erojerisiz1571]

Perhaps your car falls under golf

[@zaeemashraf5037]

Eye epriciate that

[@estebanrosa8635]

People say bring Alex back, but as a person whose primary language isn't English, this is a breath of fresh air.

[@alphashot3910]

I think in 1970 the d’amaro ss of that year and the Dodge Charger of that year both looked quite similar so it seems maybe at some point a camaro ss maybe could’ve been considered a muscle car around then

[@lavaZZa42069]

I like this guy's voice

[@petermarino2915]

I'm pretty sure that back in 1964, Plymouth came out with the 'Cuda a few weeks before Ford came out with the Mustang.

[@maxcombs4020]

Ones a crowd magnet one is awesome

[@chris010281]

Looking forward to the Lexus track build

[@MysticBobRoss]

so what would the challenger gt be considered?

[@jacobmaclean1038]

"It's not a real muscle car because it CAN go round corners". It's like saying "that pizza isn't a real pizza because it hasn't got pepperonis on it", pepperonis make a pizza better! It's adding to the experience! Not taking away it's capabilities. Next thing you know, power steering won't be allowed in an icon car

[@mozartcat89]

Listen dude. I helped my father restore our 1965 Ford Mustang and it is one heck of a mascot car

[@mozartcat89]

Muscle car

[@jonathangonzalez6972]

Do you guys consider a V6 camaro/mustang/challenger a muscle or pony car?

[@mrsupra1889]

At around 1:00 he said Ford Galaxy, but the Galaxy we get in the uk is a bloody minivan 😂😂

[@Ac3Mustang]

I fully agree

[@john-do1eo]

i miss muscle cars like the challenger srt8, chevy camaro and the mustang boss even though im not a muscle car guy i luv tuner cars but its sad to see previously loved cars be history :(