The Dillinger Escape Plan 43% Burnt

No Values Festival 6/8/24
Pomona CA
Ben gets pissed at his guitar and burns it 🔥

[@franciscosoto2677]

I was near the barricade on the right. dmitri took a parasol from someone in the crowd near the beginning of this and was singing while holding it and stomping around. video does no justice. it was fun as hell. and he was intense af throughout the whole performance.

[@tbmcc_]

Ben's dedication to not letting Greg have the last word is so impressive

Can someone explain the beef? There's never anything concrete about their relationship without people being vague about it. I miss Greg.

[@rippindrummer666]

They just butted heads alot over the years. It stinks tho because if they didn’t get Greg they probably wouldn’t have done as much as they did in their careers with dimitri on vocals

[@mariobertrand6305]

Well as far as I know they have no beef. And Greg has always said it. there is a recent interview where he addresses this, and he sees this reunion as the "much needed" reunion between Ben and Dimitri. Greg also has a billion things going both in his life and music and in that same interview I just mentioned he announced a bunch of new material. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4CVkIKuaMxnnqM

[@keepitwolfson]

​@mariobertrand6305 there's definitely beef. They are just smart enough to not let it spill out publically. The whole last record is about their relationship.

[@shanegreene6398]

Greg is to frontmen what Mike Tyson was to boxers and the same thing happened.

[@TyroneMcDonalds]

It’s odd because Dimitri sounded great when he did under thee running board at the final shows in 2017

[@Dat1frog]

Man the vocals kind of suck. Like they aren’t bad but they don’t match the intensity of the music and it takes away from the overall intensity.

[@MainScreenProduction]

43% energy in that vocal performance. Oof.

[@PrKr1111]

This music wasn't meant for a big stage

[@sacredxgeometry]

You are out of your fucking mind with this comment

[@PrKr1111]

@@sacredxgeometry this may be true, but allow me to explain: I don't mean this in a bad way, just that when this album was written DEP were very much still an underground band. This is a visceral, and personal work of art, not at all akin to stadium or festival rock. This was true punk rock, not meant for the masses and the club shows they did in support reflected the energy and intensity of the record. Personal, visceral live shows with no regard for the mainstream. DEP grew and evolved over the years and towards the end of their career, they most certainly leaned into a bigger, arena-like sound and it made their appearances at big festivals feel much more natural and understandable. Now granted, it is unfair to judge based on a poor phone video, and of course this is just speculation, but I think one of the reasons this video is so divisive among fans, is because these songs just don't translate well to a festival/stadium sound. I think the smaller shows will be received more favorably.

[@northtimo666]

@@sacredxgeometry He is right. This music is too chaotic and and all over the place to be put on a bigger stage. This kind of stuff needs intimate feeling and chaos of it.

[@bottlemanic]

I do agree. However seeing dillinger at arctangent 2015, which is a similar size stage to this and TDEP were headlining.... that show made me a lifelong fan! Greg was on form and the crowd was electric ​@northtimo666

[@northtimo666]

@@bottlemanic i saw em on a big stage and a small as well. Small was the best way to experience the chaos.

[@anthonysiedlecki9955]

This band needs Greg lmao

[@shaunmasonmusic]

Facts

[@DuffyLONER64]

The band is done, though. They closed that chapter with Greg. This string of shows is, like Ben said, a celebration, and doing shows with his friend Dmitri at a level he never got to experience with them.

[@shaunmasonmusic]

@@DuffyLONER64 So it’s a cash grab haha

[@Sevensentai6918]

@@shaunmasonmusic Yes, totally. But weird to not do this CASH GRAB without the more popular vocalist that all the real ones are demanding, ey. They went with the big bad original vocalist instead so pay is less! But yes, cash grab. Go spread it to all those whining about Greg not being a part of this hahaha

[@laudennn]

and chris p

[@null2114]

It's kinda cool they're doing this, but Dimitri simply is not on the same level as Greg as a vocalist or performer.

[@alexandrebyte]

we dont need them, we need Mike Patton

[@alexfreakdaxer927]

Sorry but I don't need Mike if I have Greg, that's the truth​@@alexandrebyte

[@NateCConcerts]

Dimitri not doing vocals on stage is CRAZY. When he came out to do Under The Running board with the band during one of their “final” shows in 2017 he sounded great

[@james_the_animator]

Right?! When Justin Pearson goes onstage at nearly fifty and tears shit up like he's still in his late teens, there is no excuse for any singer to be unprepared.

[@DISTURBEDALLDAYLONG]

In one of the videos on the compound it shows him near the barricade with the crowd. He might of had to go around to get back on stage.

[@Ivogrape]

​@@james_the_animator no way that dude is 48!

[@eliptikstudios8996]

Dmitri was in the crowd during parts of this song starting at the beginning lol. also I think he sounds good here, ofc he can't reach the same painful intensity as his youth, but the energy and intent is there, and you can tell by his mannerisms in these recordings that he's feeling this stuff fr

[@thelasthighlander3936]

@@eliptikstudios8996 Yea but why didn't he just jump right back up? there were stacks near the stage you can see in other videos from the set where you could jump back up cause Mike Muir who is in his 60's did the same thing during dillinger's set. Dimitri who is pretty tall from what fans say just lazily walked back around the entire stage which kind of made the band look awkward lol I just don't get why he didn't just jump back up the stage.

[@scottlauren3145]

Dimitri was a bit underwhelming but this was fucking beautiful.

[@JoshThorsen]

underwhelming is a nice way to describe it yes

[@joemommasvids]

🤐

[@preflex3502]

The drumset was unharmed!

[@michaelguse2467]

missing Greg....

[@alexfreakdaxer927]

Impossible not to miss Greg

[@ZackaryDion]

Oof

[@FiendMD]

I expect this performance from a no-name local band on a Tuesday night...

[@laudennn]

no bro ben climbed on a speaker they’re crazy contractors

[@bradmosier1548]

I would love to see where local no name bands where you live because they aren't even close to this quality in Chicago.

[@underscoreisnotvalid]

Dimitri what is going on with your vocals man? Hopefully this was just a once-off blunder. I know he is a million times better than this. Hes the king of the banshee scream

[@stewiewonder2601]

Wow, so disappointing!

[@MarcLCT]

Zero energy here. Glad I'm not going now. Anyone want to buy two tickets for NY Friday? 😂

[@godscoldhands77]

Pretty bad decision playing the first reunion show at a festival. This turned out not good.

[@hollowmane-b6k]

Greg, Chris, and Brian made this band special. There's no soul anymore.

[@mathisto21]

Where’s the Dimitri?

[@theshipoffools]

Not really digging the vocals at all. And I'm a big DEP fan.

[@quaarng]

Oof

[@kicksex]

Love it but the singer sounded lazy compared to Greg

[@macmurphy74]

Dimitri did NOT seem to be that in to it.

[@kuakilyissombroguwi]

No one can match Greg's intensity.

[@vincentvincent9576]

My thoughts exactly, 💯

[@shaunmasonmusic]

Greg has 1,000% better stage presence & vocals

[@Sevensentai6918]

Good for you 😴

[@kuakilyissombroguwi]

F*cking knew that coffee shop would get boring and the band would get back together. New album soon, please.

[@northtimo666]

Ben and Dimitri have been working on new music, but it won't be necessarily under TDEP banner.

[@laudennn]

LOL

[@kuakilyissombroguwi]

@@northtimo666 Interesting. Source?

[@northtimo666]

@@kuakilyissombroguwi There was a pretty recent podcast/interview they did. I think it is on youtube.

[@rippindrummer666]

Yup…Greg is a zillion times better than dimitri

[@Sevensentai6918]

🤓🤓

[@alexandrebyte]

Mike Patton is a zillion times better than Greg Greg live is so more or less

[@VinylGoo666]

Not a reunion without Chris if we’re being honest

[@cc3230]

Nah Billy is cooler

[@VinylGoo666]

@@cc3230 said no one ever

[@immortallix]

Ben hates his guts tho

[@alexfreakdaxer927]

I love Chris, but I don't miss him while having Billy on drums, that's the truth.

[@james_the_animator]

Omfg. I have tickets to see them on June 23 in Brooklyn. Ngl this video is a blackpill. I hope they were just phoning it in for this show because it was a massive payday, and they'll actually go all out for their home crowd back on the East Coast.

[@DuffyLONER64]

​@@DISTURBEDALLDAYLONG Eh, to be fair, it's more of the debut celebration to do shows at this level with Dmitri.

[@james_the_animator]

@@DuffyLONER64 I know all the guys are older, so they can't literally turn back the clock. That's not what I expected. I got into Dillinger six weeks after their break-up when I was pretty much a baby. This album blew my fucking mind the first time I heard it. When Dimitri gets up there and screams like he's waiting for a phone call, and Ben awkwardly takes away his torch to set his own guitar on fire and smash it like he's Pete Townsend in 1965, it's not cathartic. I feel a little embarrassed for my boys when I see that. This is a lot of negativity right off the bat and hopefully they knock my socks off, but I have to be honest; this live video doesn't portray the whole reunion in the best light.

[@CEOMisterJohnSaxon]

I was at this show, and it kicked ass. By far the best performance of the day. The videos do no justice. See you in Brooklyn!

[@ENFIDL]

@@CEOMisterJohnSaxonit’s so hard to judge live performances off of videos. Edit: see yall in Brooklyn and Chicago

[@ObeseChess]

I lost my job and had to sell my tickets for that same show because I couldn’t afford the trip from Portland after that, and seeing this video makes me feel a whole lot better about having to do that. Especially compared to the Botch reunion shows, where they sounded better and tighter than they ever had, this is pretty rough. I’m glad I was lucky enough to see them in their prime with both Dimitri and Greg.

[@russellny8086]

Can’t wait I saw there last 2 shows in NYC before they retired. I got tickets to 2 outta the 3 upcoming shows in Ny. I’m fucking pumped 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@jamesfarley2048]

I'll be at the one on the 21st in brooklyn w carbomb. Fuck yes

[@CJCJCJCJ]

Flying in for the 23rd lmao

[@Dan16673]

Flying in for the 22nd!

[@cc3230]

People seem to forget that Calculating Infinity and Under the Running Board are what made this band legendary. Even without their other records, which some are arguably better, they’d have legendary status in hardcore

[@alexfreakdaxer927]

Option Paralysis is actually the first album I think of whenever it comes to Dillinger.

[@nickrooney6206]

Yea after this, I think they should go back to their side projects or bring Greg back more sooner than not

[@theshipoffools]

Thank god Billy has Thoughtcrimes.

[@rippindrummer666]

I’d rather see Greg do dillinger with Chris pennie than this tbh.

[@Itwillallbeokintheend]

@@theshipoffoolsTHIS!!!

[@ph-fi7qo]

@@rippindrummer666 definitely not TDEP but if you enjoy The Black Queen you'll be happy to know that Chris Pennie has joined the group.

[@Sevensentai6918]

Or they might not, so you can feel free to ignore them and just stick with almighty Greg’s stuff. Nah? Ight

[@jarenyoung9389]

Ben just refuses to understand that Greg is what truly made this band

[@Sevensentai6918]

And Greg stans demanding Greg back refuse to understand that Ben wanted to celebrate 25 years of their groundbreaking album with the original vocalist. The audacity! No? Well stage shows aside, Greg stans certainly refuse to understand that despite all the stuff they made with Greg, Calculating Infinity still clears everything they made with Greg. No? Its legacy>

[@rited]

Lol definitely not, Ben's what made the band, Greg wasnt even there for Calculating Infinity

[@JordanWilliam-br4ky]

Lol, no. Just no. I like greg. But this is Ben and Liam's band.

[@cc3230]

L take

[@alphonsocino]

Performance is the definition of mid

[@kuakilyissombroguwi]

They're old now, man. I'm surprised they didn't play sitting down.

[@james_the_animator]

@@kuakilyissombroguwi That's no excuse. Look at Mike Patton, for God's sake!

[@mikeymoose7253]

@@james_the_animatoreven iron maiden are still running around and they’re 20 years older. They are barely old.

[@Sevensentai6918]

@@james_the_animator Yes Mike Patton one of the most prolific musicians of all time who’s regarded as one of the most talented vocalists overall and, aside from the time he took a break due to personal reasons, constantly tours. How dare Dimitri be lacking by comparison and also apparently Ben himself who is STILL jumping and moving around overall despite all the injuries he’s suffered

[@Sevensentai6918]

@@mikeymoose7253 Yes and they’ve never broken as many bones as Ben has (Ben’s still jumping around in this mId performance), didn’t leave music altogether like Dimitri, and also weren’t absolute maniacs on stage like Ben was known to be for two decades. But yeah, no excuse!

[@FlyingPirahna1]

I'm a huge fan of these guys, and I'm going to see them on the 23rd, because it'll be an honor to get to see them with their OG vocalist doing the Calculating stuff, BUT... ...this performance feels rough at best. Dimitri's vocals feel really flat and unenergetic, and it seems like he's just shouting more than he's actually screaming. Which is weird to me, because he sounded WAY better just doing those couple of songs at the farewell show in 2017, and I imagine he didn't practice nearly as much for that short set compared to what I imagine he's had to do to prepare for this mini tour. I know it's been years since then already, but he went a lot longer between leaving Dillinger and the farewell shows than those shows to now. I'm hoping this show was just him shaking the rust off, and I'm excited to see something close to the band's OG form no matter what (and tbh, a Dillinger show at all...after 7 years since the Terminal show I went to, it's a blessing to have one more chance to see them).

[@RiverBelow93]

This is a reunion with Dimitri for the first album. That's all. We know how good Greg is.

[@alexcarrasquillo5692]

Seen them once with Dimitri in 1999 and they were amazing also saw Greg with them multiple times over the years and they were amazing. Never a bad show the always brought it. Only a couple bands that opened for them back in the day that were able to keep up with them Mastadon and Darkest Hour to me were the only bands that didn’t get stomped by DEP live…

[@Shrieking_In_the_Void]

i regret paying money to see them in chicago now, this is just sad.

[@JordanWilliam-br4ky]

Uhhhh... where is Dimitri?

[@RudolfHorvath]

The band is obviously great but this shows why they went on to change the vocalist early in their career.

[@Sevensentai6918]

That’s nice but the reality is Dimitri himself chose to leave the band. That wasn’t Ben’s decision. They still wouldn’t have gotten where they did with Dimitri? Sure that’s also nice but barring the fact it was Dimitri’s decision to leave, so it took him 20+ years and no touring to not sound like he did in 2017 and other times he did guest spots with TDEP (he sounded great). But hey…

[@RudolfHorvath]

@@Sevensentai6918 Yeah, but Ben himself has said on multiple occassions that Greg has made his music better. So the change would come sooner or later.

[@chris_noswe]

W... wow... That was incredibly bad

[@aswinpanembrama8043]

Greg puciato performance was so alive not this quirky as hell

[@ben-yg5jj]

ben spin kicking, liam stomping, fire spittin? so stoked for this tour

[@Adam-pi9nb]

Beautiful chaos

[@marcogranja6046]

The great band ever, Under..., Calculating, Miss..., iconic records... Respect, hails from Ecuador south!! -Mark

[@alexandrebyte]

for this to be the perfect band, we just have to add Mike Patton

[@WhatEverINameMyBand]

3:06 Best drop ever in E standard

[@beefandkimchee]

Dimitri Minakakis was leading the show. I still would have to have been there.

[@sacredxgeometry]

Let’s all judge a guy’s first performance in 8 years from a one-off which itself happened 16 years after this album came out

[@thelasthighlander3936]

Yea cause god forbid we have a negative opinion in today's society. Everything needs to be positive. No negative thoughts cause somebody's feelings might get hurt. Dimitri's performance was boring and he just looked like he had no energy. Hopefully he can do better in the future. Watching his performance in 2017 he was solid but this is not.

[@tomatomtom4921]

Since the announcement, that Dimitri is performing, 99% of the fanbase were bashing Greg. Saying how much he sux and how much better Dimitri is. Now it's the complete opposite 🤣 DEP fans r just pathetic

[@DISTURBEDALLDAYLONG]

Eh it seemed like it was mostly the old heads saying that. Every time someone brought up Dimitri bringing the real intensity it felt like an "okay boomer" moment to me. I think Ben really set Dimitri up for failure with the hired gun interview. Dimitri could sound amazing and this would still be getting criticized because they're two different front men stage presence wise. Still going to support the boys, but I'm expecting nothing to top the adrenaline rush I got at the couple of nights I was at Terminal 5.....and that's okay.

[@ph-fi7qo]

where did you saw that? 99% of the fanbase not only acknowledges Greg being a better a vocalist but also had negative reception to Ben trying to reduce Greg value to the band success lmao "99% of the fanbase" source: "20 people FB group that only loves the first record"

[@alexfreakdaxer927]

​@@ph-fi7qo Yeah that's right

[@tanningchatum7790]

I saw Greg on his solo tour and he killed it. This doesnt even come close.

[@Sevensentai6918]

Good for you 😴

[@alexfreakdaxer927]

Right

[@jobkuizenga]

Ben is such a poser

[@cc3230]

Why tho

[@mathisto21]

Wow 😂 For a band I have loved and seen multiple times throughout the years, who I also rated as one of the best live bands I’ve seen, this is just really sad and kinda lame 🤷‍♂️

[@bythebook1408]

Is Ben there? Billy?

[@maxlikesmusic]

They played a great set, hope they do more of these

[@mrddcass6540]

Why so slow?

[@joshuamotta6291]

What happen with Greg Puciato?? 🤨🤔

[@alexandrebyte]

google it

[@aswinpanembrama8043]

find another vocalist please dimitri stage performance sucks, his singing also

[@ObeseChess]

They should get that guy from Better Lovers

[@northtimo666]

@@ObeseChess He has promise and could to justice to Greg era songs for sure.

[@ncb.3824]

I really liked this band a lot back then … but it's 2024 and you still break your guitars and shit … it not even looks rock 'n roll more like: I'm so used to break so f*** it … pretty sad performance though …

[@blkmtl96]

Sorry but this is an absolute abortion. I would want a refund seeing this and sadly dillinger is one of my favorite bands. Greg's live performances are what made this band what they were. This is just people playing TDEP covers if you ask me. How very unfortunate this is the current state of this band and Ben and Greg can't work out their differences.

[@zachmillerdrums]

they’re doing calculating infinity reunion shows with the vocalist from calculating infinity but this is a cover band.

[@blkmtl96]

@zachmillerdrums I know who Dimitri is... my comment about cover bands was about the quality sounding more like a cover band instead of being the original band who wrote the album. This sounds absolutely horrible.

[@blkmtl96]

@zachmillerdrums and I can almost guarantee you the only reason this "reunion" is even happening is it's a fucking money grab!

[@scottlauren3145]

​@@zachmillerdrumsyou took the words out of my mouth. Yeah it's not a normal dillinger show it's a festival but this was still beautiful and we got Dimitri and Ben. Cover band? Right.

[@zachmillerdrums]

@@scottlauren3145 “hey i love this band who intentionally set out to make the most unlistenable music possible, but they sound really bad here”

[@biffchipperwink4217]

Dmitri songs were always far superior to Greg songs.

[@northtimo666]

Hahahha, no.

[@Sevensentai6918]

⁠@@northtimo666 Hahaha, yes

[@alexfreakdaxer927]

​@@Sevensentai6918Hahaha no, and u know it. Any song in Option Paralysis outclass those that you're talking about, although I like first works, it's a fact that after Miss Machine things were way better.

[@chriscatuara8192]

how many dep fans that actually arent even close to consideration of a dep fan is wild