The (Direct) Comparison Test

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Mathispower4u

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@narutokurosaki6477
@narutokurosaki6477 11 жыл бұрын
my teacher soent an entire class period teaching this and I had no idea what he was even talking about. I see 5 minutes of this video, and I understood it completely. thanks so much
@Mathispower4u
@Mathispower4u 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comments!
@rodolfobarranco03
@rodolfobarranco03 11 жыл бұрын
just a quick question, in minute 4 you compare the function 1/(n-2)^(1/2) to 1/n^(1/2) which is actually smaller than the original function. since the definition of the comparison test says that in order for this to work the function An has to be between 0 and Bn. in other words: 0
@alkajon
@alkajon 12 жыл бұрын
When writing out a factorial, you are multiplying by the starting number and every integer down to 1. For example 3! = 3 * 2 * 1. So if you have n!, as n increases, so does the factors that you are multiplying by, whereas the base of 2 you only ever multiply by 2 for any value of n-1. 3! > 2^2 because 6 > 4 and 4! > 2^3 because 24 > 8. Essentially, the factorial increase faster than the exponent.
@SarkTheShark94
@SarkTheShark94 11 жыл бұрын
bullcleo1 > patrickJMT I find your videos more organized and clear. Thanks Man
@shaheenhearts
@shaheenhearts 13 жыл бұрын
you just took something that looks so horrible and scary on paper and turned it into something human friendly!! THANK YOUU SO MUCH!!!
@ethanlarue4881
@ethanlarue4881 3 жыл бұрын
@ 5:13 why are we saying is it >? and not
@williamwarren9397
@williamwarren9397 4 жыл бұрын
how do I know if its inconclusive?
@willytillyfilly
@willytillyfilly 11 жыл бұрын
OMG THANK YOU FOR UPLOADING!!!!! You're a lifesaver. :D
@3andhalfpac
@3andhalfpac 12 жыл бұрын
you also could use 1/n^2 starting n at 4 since 4^2 is 16 and 4! is 24 as long as 1/n!> 1/n^2.
@DADDY557
@DADDY557 12 жыл бұрын
i think that is relating this n! to the"growth rates of sequences" which states that n! grows faster than b^n ....... that's how i think he got that random thing
@nycityzen
@nycityzen 8 жыл бұрын
Why did you choose to compare n! to 2^n?
@nuggets5787
@nuggets5787 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's because 2^n is a geometric series. Factorial and geometric series look similar that's why he compared them together. Just a thought, just wanted to shear.
@liangpingshen9910
@liangpingshen9910 4 жыл бұрын
When you expand n!, you will get n^n-something, for n>=2, n^n>=2^n
@nahuel3256
@nahuel3256 4 жыл бұрын
@@nuggets5787 that it is not the reason.
@nahuel3256
@nahuel3256 4 жыл бұрын
The reason is because 2^(n-1) is always smaller or equal than n! Therefore, the reciprocal, that is: 1/2^(n-1) will always be greater or equal than 1/n! In this way, if the series that is "greater" converges, the series that is "smaller" will also converge by the comparison test.
@sameergowani
@sameergowani 14 жыл бұрын
we could also use the root test in the second example right?
@ac7491
@ac7491 13 жыл бұрын
That is an interesting cursor you have there.
@Mathispower4u
@Mathispower4u 14 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is correct.
@muhammadkabir-ud-dinnawaz8706
@muhammadkabir-ud-dinnawaz8706 8 жыл бұрын
Where can I get PDFs of these slides ?
@exile341
@exile341 8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand example #2 Bn is smaller than An. The rule for the comparison test states that 0
@rinaberman7686
@rinaberman7686 8 жыл бұрын
For divergence, the rule is 0
@rinaberman7686
@rinaberman7686 8 жыл бұрын
People like to leave that part out for some reason.
@TheTechnicalPandyaji
@TheTechnicalPandyaji 8 жыл бұрын
what is the straterg to know which test to apply when
@aoides
@aoides 10 жыл бұрын
why 2^n is use to compare with n!? thanks
@jasonjkeller79
@jasonjkeller79 13 жыл бұрын
@ 6:03 I'm a little unclear as to how you know to use 2^n as a comparison to n!. I understand the following steps but using 2^n doesn't seem immediately obvious to me. Any tips for spotting these things more easily?
@audiomac
@audiomac Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. It's not clear. I think it's not expected to be clear for us, but I think we are supposed to memorize and remember that pattern.
@ΔημήτρηςΠπαπαδόπουλος
@ΔημήτρηςΠπαπαδόπουλος 9 жыл бұрын
great work !!! very helpful !!!
@MrVumile
@MrVumile 11 жыл бұрын
2^n is not clear for me....think u should explain more on it.
@kaicool71
@kaicool71 8 жыл бұрын
but first we have to check that Un/Vn is a finite quantity then only we can apply the comparison test
@maithaap4565
@maithaap4565 8 жыл бұрын
thank you , such a life savor
@namansaxena8999
@namansaxena8999 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks man Really helpful. ..
@yash1133
@yash1133 10 жыл бұрын
could we have used the integral test here.
@kadenkks
@kadenkks 10 жыл бұрын
If you can do an integral, the integral test is always possible. Some integrals are difficult or stupidly hard compared to other tests, which is when comparisons and ratio tests come in handy
@yash1133
@yash1133 10 жыл бұрын
kadenkks thnks
@moeabangir8171
@moeabangir8171 6 жыл бұрын
great video thank you
@syedmahbubulhuda6762
@syedmahbubulhuda6762 9 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@milano1400
@milano1400 12 жыл бұрын
so fucking helpful cheers man!!!! :D
@abby4899
@abby4899 9 жыл бұрын
How in the world did you come up with that last one to compare the factorial question to? Did you just make it up? Please DO NOT ASSUME that students know! Write out the algebra because that's where the marks are. If the algebra is wrong then everything is wrong so please show all the working. I really don't know why most teachers loooove assuming that students know. UGH
@witsleep
@witsleep 9 жыл бұрын
+Psychedelix he did not assume, he did do the a little bit of explanation (not that it help) but in exam, you either find it out yourself what the statement does or just know it and factorial is just one case, so it's not that bad
@crazyfool333
@crazyfool333 12 жыл бұрын
i fucking love you right now!
@liangpingshen9910
@liangpingshen9910 4 жыл бұрын
When comparing 1/(n^2+3) and 1/n^2 , you could do it in a simpler way: because n^2+3>n^2, 1/(n^2+3)
@MrAlbaraa123
@MrAlbaraa123 11 жыл бұрын
thank you
@daveburton8332
@daveburton8332 4 жыл бұрын
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@HandicappedNoobsCA
@HandicappedNoobsCA 12 жыл бұрын
THANKKK YOUUUU SOOOOO MUCHHHHHHHH
@ronchertakovsky2872
@ronchertakovsky2872 6 жыл бұрын
Why did you choose to compare n! to 2^n?
@HARCONSTRUCTION
@HARCONSTRUCTION 6 жыл бұрын
Because n= power and n!=(n)!
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